[00:00] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: did you bootstrap QT?
[00:01] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: teach me \o/ /-o-\
[00:02] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: what do you mean by bootstrap?
[00:03] <acheronuk> https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/qt/qtbase.git/tree/debian/README.source
[00:05] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: what do I have to follow there to do the Qt bootstrapping?
[00:09] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: change the indep build deps in the control file and change rules so it doesn't try to build the docs packages and disable the .install files for them one way or another
[00:10] <acheronuk> Then once that list of packages has built like that, you can build the tools etc, then rebuild again with the docs packages re-enabled
[00:11] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: so we don't build docs packages in Kubuntu?
[00:11] <tsimonq2> oh ok
[00:11] <clivejo> would that be fixed in Qt5.7?
[00:11] <acheronuk> It's a way get around a stupid circular dep they seem to want.
[00:12] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: same for Xenial AND Yakkety?
[00:14] <acheronuk> yes
[00:14] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: https://launchpad.net/~tsimonq2/+archive/ubuntu/qt-5.7/+build/10619674
[00:15]  * tsimonq2 nods
[00:15] <tsimonq2> I'm starting over
[00:15] <acheronuk> Missing build dependencies: .... qtbase5-doc-html 
[00:15] <acheronuk> so you need that to build the tools
[00:16] <acheronuk> but you need the tools to build that
[00:16]  * clivejo pokes tsimonq2
[00:16] <acheronuk> the bootstrap gets you wout of that impossible situation
[00:16] <clivejo> look a failed merger!
[00:17] <acheronuk> anyway, goodnight!
[00:17] <tsimonq2> RUH ROH MERGE ERROR
[00:17] <tsimonq2> o/ acheronuk 
[00:18]  * tsimonq2 fixes
[00:18] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: I expect you can work it out, but should you get stuck I'll be about tomorrow
[00:18] <tsimonq2> o/ acheronuk 
[00:18] <tsimonq2> ok
[00:19] <tsimonq2> clivejo: ping
[00:19]  * clivejo semi pong
[00:19] <tsimonq2> <<<<<<< HEAD
[00:19] <tsimonq2> #usr/bin/kxmlkipicmd
[00:19] <tsimonq2> #usr/share/kxmlkipicmd/
[00:19] <tsimonq2> [00:19] <tsimonq2> usr/bin/kxmlkipicmd
[00:20] <tsimonq2> usr/lib/*/qt5/plugins/kipiplugin_kxmlhelloworld.so
[00:20] <tsimonq2> usr/share/kxmlkipicmd/
[00:20] <tsimonq2> >>>>>>> kubuntu_yakkety_archive
[00:20] <tsimonq2> which one is better?
[00:20] <clivejo> for what?
[00:20] <tsimonq2> merger_libkipi
[00:20] <clivejo> yakkety branch is the fix santa_ pushed
[00:20] <tsimonq2> ok, so I should trust kubuntu_yakkety_archive ?
[00:21] <clivejo> yeah
[00:21] <tsimonq2> ok
[00:21] <tsimonq2> thanks
[00:21] <ahoneybun> my q on my keyboard is going to die first lol
[00:21] <ahoneybun> also shift
[00:22] <clivejo> why?
[00:23] <ahoneybun> looking up new stuff on http://pyqt.sourceforge.net/Docs/PyQt5/search.html?q=QIcon
[00:23] <ahoneybun> lol
[00:23] <ahoneybun> everything starts with Q lol
[00:24] <clivejo> my k key is wearing off
[00:24] <tsimonq2> ahoneybun: knot kas kmuch kas k k:P
[00:25] <ahoneybun> XD
[00:25] <tsimonq2> KXD
[00:26] <ahoneybun> QtWidgets.QWidget XD
[00:27] <tsimonq2> clivejo: I'm setting up a phone alert with the merger failure RSS feed and a very very annoying and loud ringtone XD
[00:28] <clivejo> ovidiu's Rick song?
[00:28] <tsimonq2> LOL that's PERFECT XD
[00:55] <ahoneybun> alright building again
[01:22] <ahoneybun> getting closer I think
 Closer to what?
[01:46] <ahoneybun> the slideshow working
[05:50] <tsimonq2> yofel, clivejo, acheronuk: libkf5calendarsupport on http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/applications/build_status_16.04.3_yakkety.html is a little bit confusing to me, so could you let me know what the solution is when you find it so I can learn? :)
[05:53] <tsimonq2> yofel, clivejo: ktp-text-ui might need an override on http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/applications/build_status_16.04.3_yakkety.html (I think) because AFAIR Qt5TextToSpeech isn't a thing
[05:54] <tsimonq2> yofel, clivejo, acheronuk: do we depend on SystemD at all? ksystemlog on http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/applications/build_status_16.04.3_yakkety.html is missing JournalD (optional) which is a SystemD logging daemon, if we don't use SystemD, needs an override I think
[05:56] <tsimonq2> so for kstars, seems like the copyright file needs to be updated, I'll push a change fixing that for sure, but it's throwing desktop-entry-contains-unknown-key which I'm not entirely sure about but I'll do some investigating to see what I can do
[06:11] <tsimonq2> well for kstars, I think I'd rather just push my WIP for someone to pick up and finish, reason being, I'm a bit unsure about W: kstars source: missing-field-in-dep5-copyright copyright (paragraph at line 143)
[06:14] <tsimonq2> although I did get a good start
[06:14] <tsimonq2> I'll continue to see if I can look into desktop-entry-contains-unknown-key
[06:15] <tsimonq2> (after my test build confirms the changes that I *did* make are valid)
[06:15] <tsimonq2> wth...
[06:15] <tsimonq2>  sbuild-build-depends-kstars-dummy : Depends: libindi-dev (>= 1.2.0~) but it is not going to be installed
[06:15] <tsimonq2> but I do have that PPA enabled...
[06:16] <tsimonq2> ohh that might be from proposed
[06:16] <tsimonq2> let's see...
[06:17]  * tsimonq2 tweaks the prep script to pick up proposed
[06:19] <tsimonq2> yup cool
[06:21] <tsimonq2> (benefit of doing this with apt-cacher-ng is that when some packages migrate to release from proposed, when I get the upgrade on my system, it'll be less download time :P)
[06:40] <tsimonq2> hmm no luck
[06:40] <valorie> you've been busy, tsimonq2
[06:41] <tsimonq2> I have been valorie 
[06:42] <valorie> and productive, it looks like too
[06:42] <tsimonq2> heh yep :)
[06:43] <tsimonq2> this is what happens when you stay up until 1:45 AM and onwards! I'm bored and can't sleep, perfect opportunity to mess with things and hopefully fix something :P hehehehe
[06:43] <tsimonq2> (kidding)
[06:53] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: yes, ubuntu and kubuntu use systemd now. with some upstart leftovers.  
[06:54] <tsimonq2> \o/ o/ acheronuk 
[06:56] <tsimonq2> there, I pushed to kstars
[06:57] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: if it's just a partial fix, am I right in not pushing a change to the PPA or should I do that?
[06:57] <tsimonq2> (doesn't fix ALL the Lintian errors but some)
[06:58] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: if libkf5calendarsupport-data doesn't contain anything arch dependant, then yes I think it can be multiarchified, which I think in this case would be multiarch: foreign?
[06:59] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: but I wanted to ask yofel about that, as debian/Neon have not bothered and left it as it is
[06:59] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: yeah I took a crack at that but I wanted to be *absolutely* sure before I pushed anything
[07:00] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: so yeah, I'm not comfortable pushing a fix to that. yofel?
[07:01] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: but what about kstars? is it ok to upload a fix to just some of the problems making it unstable?
[07:02] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: the ppa in this case is landing for yakkety, so if/when done yofel will build fresh sources to upload rather than copy those across. So I don't think incremental/partial fixes being uploaded are a big deal
[07:02] <acheronuk> as long as it gets there in the end
[07:02] <tsimonq2> ok cool 
[07:04] <tsimonq2> heh, I think my first time directly pushing a fix to the staging PPA
[07:05] <acheronuk> did you get any of Qt 5.7 built?
[07:05] <tsimonq2> haven't gotten a chance to but it's next on my TODO list
[07:11] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: so I'm trying to understand the instructions in https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/qt/qtbase.git/tree/debian/README.source
[07:12] <tsimonq2> I don't know *exactly* what this means: "Build only arch-dependent packages from these sources"
[07:13] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: mind telling me what you did?
[07:17] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: well, for the 1st build of Qt 5.6 I did, I just dropped the versioned depends on Qt 5.6 to 5.5.1 so that it didn't immediately fail
[07:17] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: THAT is the wrong approach though!
[07:17] <tsimonq2> SO what do I do? :P :)
[07:17] <acheronuk> I'm getting to that....
[07:18] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: This is the diff between that 1st try and the 2nd one I did according to the readme https://launchpadlibrarian.net/265766173/qtbase-opensource-src_5.6.1+dfsg-2~acheron~yakkety1_5.6.1+dfsg-2~yakkety+build1.diff.gz
[07:19] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: what packages do I build when?
[07:22] <acheronuk> There is the list in the readme. I think they are in order. Then build the rest after those are built bootstrapped.
[07:23] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: but do I then need to build anything after that?
[07:23] <acheronuk> Then rebuild the ones from the list etc once they (especially the tools) are done, re-enabling the docs/html packages
[07:24] <tsimonq2> ok
[07:27] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: I went through checking what each package had build deps on as I went, but launchpad will obviously dep-wait on a package if it's slightly the wrong order, so I guess it's not crucial to do it that methodically
[07:27] <tsimonq2> I'll do this later, I just realized it's 2:30 AM and I want to catch the Community Team Q&A tomorrow at 10 AM
[07:27] <tsimonq2> talk later o/
[07:27] <acheronuk> no problem. I have painting to do :(
[08:28] <clivejo> apps 16.04.3 are still in staging-kdeapps PPA so if you make a change to the yakkety_archive branch, you should also upload the new version to the staging PPA
[08:28] <clivejo> whilst WIP that is
[09:22] <Mirv> we might be now really really honestly getting the Qt, KDE and half the world migrated to release pocket..
[09:23] <Mirv> no disruptions via archive uploads in the next few hours if possible :)
[09:29] <sitter> yofel: are you going to stay qapt or going to switch to packagekit at some point in the next 2 cycles?
[09:30] <sitter> specifically: any objections to me rewriting debug installer using packagekit
[10:50]  * acheronuk hates painting
 is there a currently known problem with the driver manager?
[11:08] <shadeslayer> yeah
[11:08] <shadeslayer> I think it's not working
 is it known why?
 I just want to reply ti a support request
[11:15] <shadeslayer> not a clue nope
[11:15] <shadeslayer> needs investigation
 ok, thank you
[11:49] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[11:53] <santa_> good "morning" everyone
[11:57] <BluesKaj> 'Morning santa_
[12:15] <clivejo> shadeslayer ovidiuflorin it requires a xapian refresh
 what does that mean?
[12:17] <clivejo> sudo apt-get install apt-xapian-index
[12:17] <clivejo> sudo update-apt-xapian-index
[12:17] <clivejo> and retry the driver manager, should work after that
 thank you
 I forwarded your message to the user
[12:50] <yofel> sitter: no objections, we have packagekit 1.1.1 in yakkety now
[13:05] <acheronuk> yofel: would multiarifying those data packages mean having them Multi-Arch: foreign?
[13:05] <acheronuk> *multiarchifying
[13:06] <yofel> uh... I forgot, you'll have to read the docs. I always tend to mix up foreign and same
[13:09] <acheronuk> yofel: Thanks. one more thing if you have a sec. for something like in kdepim W: kalarm: executable-not-elf-or-script etc/xdg/autostart/kalarm.autostart.desktop
[13:09] <acheronuk> does that just need it's path correcting in KA lintian-ignore.json so the QA page doesn't orange on it, or still needs a real override, or both, or neither?
[13:10] <yofel> that should IMO actually be fixed using dh_fixperms or so. desktop files have no business being executable
[13:12] <acheronuk> yofel: fine. I'll try to look up how to do that later. thanks
[13:12] <yofel> dh_fixperms automatically fixes most permissions, but this directory isn't watched I guess
 Mm no frontend available
[14:22] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: I tried thsi just to test https://launchpad.net/~acheron/+archive/ubuntu/yakkety/+packages?field.name_filter=qtbase&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=
[14:23] <acheronuk> I'll leave it there and not try any more, but shout if you get stuck
[14:24] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: and yes, I know there is a typo in the changelog :P I don't care.
 Lintian cares!!
 Overide -> Override
[15:48] <acheronuk> clivejo: When it's in my own ppa, lintian can go take a long walk off a short pier on that
[15:49] <tsimonq2> well when it's MY PPA Lintian is respected and valued
[15:49] <tsimonq2> :P
[15:50] <tsimonq2> I'm watching the Community Team Q&A right now
[15:50] <acheronuk> where?
[15:51] <tsimonq2> http://ubuntuonair.com/
[15:51] <tsimonq2> it's almost done
[15:53] <acheronuk> oohh. popey is very 'beardy'
[15:53] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: #ubuntu-on-air on freenode \o/
[16:04] <tsimonq2> clivejo: s/apt-get/apt/g
[16:04] <acheronuk> must try to remember that next time
[16:04] <acheronuk> The Q&A that is
[16:05] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: 15 UTC I think it is, every Tuesday
[16:07] <ahoneybun> acheronuk: did you go anywhere with ubiquity?
[16:08] <acheronuk> ahoneybun: no, I just did that test build, and that's it
[16:08] <ahoneybun> I think I'm done moving things
[16:08] <ahoneybun> just hit one more error
[16:10] <ahoneybun> acheronuk: https://launchpad.net/~aaronhoneycutt/+archive/ubuntu/ubiquity-kubuntu
[16:10] <ahoneybun> builds are there
[16:10] <ahoneybun> ppa5 seems to be the most complete
[16:10] <ahoneybun> just hitting a error about 
[16:10] <ahoneybun>  AttributeError in install(): No frontend available
[16:10] <ahoneybun> but it did try kde_ui though
[16:11] <ahoneybun> branch is here: https://code.launchpad.net/~aaronhoneycutt/ubiquity/ubiquity
[16:11] <soee> o/
[16:11] <ahoneybun> hey soee
[16:12] <soee> mamarley: on 370, testing :)
[16:13] <ahoneybun> I wonder if it's upstream
[16:13] <ahoneybun> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23060207
[16:13] <ahoneybun> yofel: if you have time ^
[16:16] <ahoneybun> mm I missed a few things
[16:16] <tsimonq2> MMM
[16:16] <acheronuk> I don't know enough about it, but mixing pyqt4 and 5 together struck me as likely to be problematic
[16:16] <ahoneybun> well I'm moving away from PyQt4
[16:17] <ahoneybun> changing everything to PyQt5
[16:18] <acheronuk> Harold said on neon that he had already mostly ported it, but had lost or misplaced the code he did? or something to that effect.
[16:18] <ahoneybun> mm
[16:19] <ahoneybun> a lot of stuff from QtGui moved to QtWidgets
[16:21] <ahoneybun> I
[16:21] <ahoneybun> I'm sure he has a bot to do it
[16:22] <acheronuk> ahoneybun: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/vfx-platform-discuss/LzGEKXdXp6w
[16:23] <ahoneybun> damn it
[16:23] <ahoneybun> well I'm almost done I think
[16:24] <tsimonq2> !language | ahoneybun 
[16:24]  * tsimonq2 runs
[16:24] <acheronuk> I'm always wary about scripts like that though...
[16:26] <acheronuk> yofel: do you have a view about things like this? https://github.com/rferrazz/pyqt4topyqt5
[16:28] <ahoneybun> acheronuk: what are the setting in .bashrc for bzr?
[16:28] <ahoneybun> to have changelogs with my email on my gpg key
[16:28] <ahoneybun> keeps using my @outlook.com one
[16:28] <acheronuk> ahoneybun: dunno. I've only set up git
[16:28] <ahoneybun> oh crap
[16:29] <ahoneybun> continuation line under-indented for visual indent
[16:29] <ahoneybun> line too long 
[16:29] <ahoneybun> the heck
[16:30] <acheronuk> ahoneybun: 2.2.5. Configure Bazaar http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/getting-set-up.html
[16:33] <ahoneybun> oh weird
[16:33] <ahoneybun> I guess because my key had @kubuntu.org but Lp has @outlook.com
[16:33] <ahoneybun> soee: hello
[16:35]  * tsimonq2 throws a stick at yofel 
[16:36]  * tsimonq2 also throws a stick at clivejo 
[16:36] <soee> ahoneybun: hih
[16:36] <soee> *hiho
[16:36] <tsimonq2> yofel, clivejo: how would you suggest I fix W: libkf5calendarsupport source: dependency-is-not-multi-archified libkf5calendarsupport5 depends on libkf5calendarsupport-data (multi-arch: no) ?
[16:40] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: thsi I think? https://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/Implementation#Multi-Arch:_foreign_support_packages
[16:40] <acheronuk> *this
[16:40] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: you said you wanted to ask yofel :P
[16:41] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: yofel said he usually forgets, so you'll have to read the docs
[16:42] <tsimonq2> ok
[16:43] <tsimonq2> hmmm
[16:43] <tsimonq2> ksystemlog already has libsystemd-dev...
[16:53] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: No, looks like Phil added it, then decided to revert it https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/ksystemlog/commit/?id=904b1d2ab955736c4599671a82cd391cba7aa6db
[16:53] <acheronuk> oh, wait. different file
[16:58] <ahoneybun> Yes!!!!
[16:59] <ahoneybun> I fixed the darn PEP8 errors
[17:05] <acheronuk> tsimonq2 yofel: guess this fix is needed for it to find systemd/journald for the version in Yakkety? https://quickgit.kde.org/?p=ksystemlog.git&a=commit&h=4eb15418f81df2da9be76449ea4d900023c478a5
[17:05] <tsimonq2> ok, so debian/parch?
[17:05] <tsimonq2> *patch
[17:06] <soee> :OOO
[17:06] <soee> kmail works super fast now, impossible
[17:07] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: I guess, *if* it's thought desirable to have that optional feature
[17:07] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: why not?!? let's do it! :D
[17:07] <tsimonq2> I'll do the fix if you don't mind
[17:08] <ahoneybun> soee:  on Neon?
[17:09] <soee> ahoneybun: yes
[17:11] <ahoneybun> mm ok
[17:12] <tsimonq2> MM
[17:16] <ahoneybun> stop it tsimonq2
[17:16] <tsimonq2> shoot I caused that ^
[17:16] <tsimonq2> k ahoneybun 
[17:18] <tsimonq2> fixed now I think
[17:19] <tsimonq2> \o/
[17:27] <soee> ok kmail is broken :|
[17:27] <tsimonq2> first time taking a commit from upstream that hasn't been tagged yet and putting it as a debian quilt patch! \o/
[17:28] <tsimonq2> it'll need to be cleaned up later but that's trivial
[17:30] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: did you upload a new ppa package with your changes for calendarsupport?
[17:30] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: yes, why?
[17:31] <tsimonq2> (~ppa51, hasn't showed up yet)
[17:31] <acheronuk> yes, and the package I upload 30s ago has
[17:32] <tsimonq2> :/
[17:32] <acheronuk> launchpad had been silently eating a few uploads recently, so I wondered
[17:33] <tsimonq2> yeah
[17:34] <tsimonq2> and what I meant by "hasn't showed up yet" is it hasn't shown up on http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/applications/build_status_16.04.3_yakkety.html yet
[17:35] <tsimonq2> just uploaded ksystemlog
[17:35] <acheronuk> well, I see no sign in the actual ppa either
[17:35] <tsimonq2> :/
[17:36] <acheronuk> did you get an email saying it was accepted?
[17:36] <tsimonq2> well you might be right acheronuk, got an email for ksystemlog but NOT calendarsupport
[17:36]  * tsimonq2 reuploads
[17:37] <tsimonq2> there great, got the email
[17:37] <acheronuk> as said, I've had one or two uploads just vanish as if they had never been done
[17:37]  * tsimonq2 nods
[17:39] <tsimonq2> so acheronuk, could you give me a hand with kstars?
[17:39] <tsimonq2> W: kstars source: missing-field-in-dep5-copyright copyright (paragraph at line 121)
[17:39] <tsimonq2> W: kstars: desktop-entry-contains-unknown-key usr/share/applications/org.kde.kstars.desktop:217 Patterns
[17:39] <tsimonq2> the latter is just a field that it's possibly not recognizing
[17:39] <tsimonq2> the former is missing a person for the copyright entry
[17:39] <tsimonq2> so idk
[17:48]  * tsimonq2 fixes that after this
[18:01] <acheronuk> not sure about those 2 in kstars
[18:02] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: so there's a package that requires QtSpeech, which hasn't even had a formal release yet. Is it worth it to create a Debian patch removing support until QtSpeech is packaged, or do we just ignore the instability?
[18:03] <acheronuk> It's just an optional build depend that can't be found isn't it? So I would hesitate to call it 'instability'.
[18:03] <tsimonq2> I'm joing by the technical term in KCI
[18:04] <tsimonq2> s/KCI/http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/applications/build_status_16.04.3_yakkety.html/
[18:04] <acheronuk> KCI is odd
[18:04] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: but I mean is it worth it to disable for now?
[18:05] <acheronuk> I personally would not, as it does no harm, and the message being there will remind anyone in the future that it's an option to check if is available.
[18:05] <tsimonq2> ok
[18:06] <acheronuk> patch it out and you get rid of that check
[18:06] <tsimonq2> makes sense
[18:07] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: but it's going to stay unstable in http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/applications/build_status_16.04.3_yakkety.html
[18:08] <acheronuk> not every cause of the orange there *has* to be sorted
[18:10] <tsimonq2> yeah good point
[18:10] <tsimonq2> but why not?
[18:10] <tsimonq2> the more the better, right?
[18:12] <tsimonq2> kpimtextedit is also depping on QtSpeech
[18:12] <acheronuk> It's a way to alert you to potential issues. Not a message saying, "if this is not green, all your code will explode!".
[18:12] <tsimonq2> (just invented the word :P)
[18:12] <tsimonq2> yeah
[18:12] <acheronuk> you have to apply common sense as well
[18:12] <tsimonq2> but why not sort through them?
[18:13] <acheronuk> we are, but some may not needing a fix. or be better left
[18:13] <tsimonq2> yeah
[18:13] <tsimonq2> like QtSpeech deps :)
[18:22] <yofel> tsimonq2: yes, cherry picking that for systemd sounds appropriate
[18:22] <tsimonq2> yofel: thanks, already done :P
[18:36] <acheronuk> yofel: in kde pim we have override_dh_fixperms:	$(overridden_command) -Xetc/xdg/autostart/kalarm.autostart.desktop
[18:36] <yofel> o.O
[18:36] <acheronuk> so looks like what I asked about earlier was intentional?
[18:37] <acheronuk> also on the org.kde.korgac.desktop
[18:37] <yofel> obviously, but I don't understand why
[18:38] <acheronuk> Was done here: https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/kdepim/commit/debian/rules?h=kubuntu_yakkety_archive&id=a5e6fd30648e23aea57aa8e734f037d8007ad4ce
[18:39] <yofel> sgclark: do you remember why this was necessary? ^
[18:40] <sgclark> eh I barely remember dinner last night these days :(
[18:40] <acheronuk> I see no such thing in Neon/debian?
[18:40] <sgclark> remove it?
[18:41] <yofel> agreed, if something does break we'll notice
[18:41] <yofel> - maybe
[18:44] <acheronuk> kdepim is awkward. also have W: kdepim source: missing-runtime-test-file debian/tests/testsuite paragraph starting at line 1
[18:46] <acheronuk> debian have a testsuite and a testsuite.xsession file that we don't in the debian/tests folder
[18:55] <ahoneybun> !info ubiquity
[18:57] <acheronuk> yofel clivejo: the apps are getting to a stage where for most remaining problems I'm not 100% sure on whether a fix is needed, and if so quite what.
[18:58] <tsimonq2> ^
[18:58] <tsimonq2> wait a minute ffmpegthumbs amd64 heh
[18:58] <tsimonq2> W: ffmpegthumbs: latest-debian-changelog-entry-without-new-version
[19:03] <acheronuk> right. back later :)
[19:27] <soee> who seen proposel for Plasma 5.8 wallpaper ? :)
[19:28] <tsimonq2> ooh who?
[19:28] <mamarley> Did you make that too?
[19:28] <soee> nooo :D
[19:28] <soee> https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/128699/
[19:30] <mamarley> Looks nice.  Were the older wallpapers not available in 4K?  They look pretty awesome on my 4K monitor.
[19:31] <soee> not sure, im using some random wallpaper atm.
[19:35] <soee> mamarley: driver works fine
[19:35] <mamarley> soee: Thanks!
[19:35] <soee> i wish they could make some better setting and easier profiel switch
[19:40] <clivejo> if Ubuntu phone was a sandwich, what sandwich would it be?!?
[19:40] <soee> probably 1 week old bread and ketchup
[19:41] <acheronuk> kde-baseapps is still building the kde4 folderview plugin"
[19:44] <acheronuk> kdesdk-kioslaves
[19:44] <acheronuk> W: kdesdk-kioslaves source: dep5-copyright-license-name-not-unique (paragraph at line 81)
[19:44] <acheronuk> W: kdesdk-kioslaves source: missing-license-paragraph-in-dep5-copyright gpl-2+ (paragraph at line 77)
[19:44] <acheronuk> I have not much clue on thsoe copyright files ^^^
[19:45] <acheronuk> kdepimtextedit: E: libkf5pimtextedit-dev: missing-dependency-on-libc needed by usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/designer/kpimtexteditwidgets.so
[19:46] <acheronuk> kde4libs: kdelibs5-data: dbus-policy-without-send-destination etc/dbus-1/system.d/org.kde.auth.conf 
[19:47] <acheronuk> kstars: W: kstars source: missing-field-in-dep5-copyright copyright (paragraph at line 121)
[19:47] <acheronuk> W: kstars: desktop-entry-contains-unknown-key usr/share/applications/org.kde.kstars.desktop:217 Patterns
[19:52] <acheronuk> in fact kde-baseapps may just need merging/replacing with debian, and be done with it!
[19:53]  * acheronuk goes for a beer
[19:59] <pursuivant> libqapt (master) v3.0.2-5-g6f130ef * Carlo Vanini: src/backend.cpp
[19:59] <pursuivant> reopen xapian index after update
[19:59] <pursuivant> If it is not re-opened the search will continue to use the outdated
[19:59] <pursuivant> index and will always return an empty list.
[19:59] <pursuivant> For instance, see https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=362047
[19:59] <pursuivant> http://commits.kde.org/libqapt/6f130ef3db5ae31cd3a739762cdc68d3d299d5d0
[20:03] <acheronuk> oh, reverted adding libpurpose to spectacle build deps, as it pulls in all of telepathy, which is a tad daft
[20:04] <pursuivant> muon (master) v5.6.0-6-g0151bc8 * Carlo Vanini: src/PackageModel/PackageWidget.cpp
[20:04] <pursuivant> repeat search on xapian update
[20:04] <pursuivant> Repeat the current package search whenever the xapian index is updated.
[20:04] <pursuivant> BUG: 362047
[20:04] <pursuivant> http://commits.kde.org/muon/0151bc85a9d7204075fe8aad73b01dd970f93c43
[20:10] <genii> Heh, Jaunty
[20:10] <tsimonq2> wth is that? :/
[20:25] <clivejo> upstream changes to muon package manager
 A Ubuntu release tsimonq2
[20:31] <tsimonq2> ahoneybun: yeah ik, I was talking about the bot...
[20:34] <clivejo> pursuivant is our KDE commit bot
[20:38] <tsimonq2> weird :P
[20:39] <clivejo> snaps are better for end users and packagers?!
[20:39]  * clivejo coughs
[20:41] <clivejo> anyone been keeping an eye on Mycroft?
[20:42] <tsimonq2> ok, I'm in the Linux Unplugged podcast mumble room now, https://mumble.jupiterbroadcasting.org/ , y'all are welcome to join me
[20:44] <ahoneybun> clivejo: they are trying to make a snap of Mycroft for Ubuntu
[20:45] <clivejo> are there regular deb packages?
[20:46] <ahoneybun> atm it's on github
[20:47] <ahoneybun> https://github.com/MycroftAI/mycroft-core
[21:06] <ahoneybun> mm ubiquity on my live image is 16.10.5
[21:06] <ahoneybun> and works
[22:50]  * soee searches for voodoo doll with letters on in: "kmail"
[22:51]  * soee taking burning candle ...
[22:53] <clivejo> dont do it
[22:54]  * acheronuk checks his mail reliably in thunderbird
[22:54] <tsimonq2> hehehehehe I use Thunderbird as well acheronuk! \o/
[22:55] <soee> kmail is stupid, last time it permanently removed my inbox content, now when i remove some item it comes back after few seconds ... i tell you ... black magic ...
[22:55]  * clivejo uses kontact and loves it!
[22:55] <tsimonq2> clivejo, acheronuk: I'll be gone from Thursday to Saturday or Sunday
[22:55] <tsimonq2> just an FYI
[22:56] <clivejo> why?
[22:56] <tsimonq2> going camping with my uncle
[22:56] <clivejo> have you booked time off with the RM?
[22:57] <tsimonq2> RM?
[22:57] <clivejo> Release Manager
[22:57] <acheronuk> there we go. PIM unstable soee ^^^^
[22:59] <soee> acheronuk: shall i use my voodoo doll ?
[23:00] <soee> clivejo: :D
[23:00]  * soee is upgrading his gitlab servr
[23:01] <soee> hah: Linux Kernel 4.6 Has Reached End of Life, Users Urged to Move to Linux 4.7.1
[23:01] <soee> and i'm on 4.4 
[23:06] <soee> !info sonnet
[23:06] <soee> !info sonnet-plugins
 (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/NNiEJ5La/file_169.jpg
 Current sddm theme on plasma dev :)
 Where is the different user icon?
[23:16] <soee> different?
[23:16] <soee> the default one ?
 Icon on the right, bottom row
[23:17] <soee> ah, dunno. this is dev version so things like that might happen :)