[00:45] robert_ancell: good morning [01:28] jbicha, hi [01:29] robert_ancell: do you drive the CI trains? I need this fix for evolution https://code.launchpad.net/~jbicha/syncevolution/fix-gcc6-ftbfs/+merge/302980 [01:29] jbicha, I don't [01:29] ok, I'll ask Europe about it later then [01:31] ugh... Seems the switch to a systemd user session means that orca no longer starts automatically for me... Can gsettings keys be referred to in systemd units yet? [01:32] THis is a vanilla yakkety unity session with latest updates. [01:32] gnome-session is not running. [05:42] Bonjour tout le monde ! [05:43] how are things after my holidays? :-) [05:46] pitti: Hey there, hope you had a good break. [05:46] hey TheMuso, how are you? [05:47] yes, it was great! a week of bicycling and tenting along the Danube, then some days at home with nice summer weather [05:49] * duflu is jealous, and goes out for some brief sunlight [05:53] pitti: Not too bad thanks. [05:53] pitti: A question about the systemd user session changeover... Should gnome-session not be running, at least in unity? [05:54] TheMuso: it certainly has to be running -- you mean not be running under upstart/systemd? [05:55] pitti: Well, I updated today, and in my current sesion gnome-session is not running. [05:55] session* [05:55] wow, how does anything work then? [05:55] I dunno. [05:56] TheMuso: "pgrep -af gnome-session" is really empty? [05:56] this isn't possible [05:56] luke@buffalo:~$ pgrep -af gnome-session [05:56] 5744 /usr/lib/at-spi2-core/at-spi2-registryd --use-gnome-session [05:56] luke@buffalo:~$ [05:57] I am able to mount a network share in nautilus, plug a USB stick in, ssh, etc. [05:57] Actually, I don't have an ssh agent running. [05:57] can you pastebin "systemctl --user status gnome-session"? [05:57] The reason why I chaced this up is because after updates and a reboot, Orca didn't start automatically, hense me going on a fact finding mission. [05:58] if gnome-session doesn't start at all, then not much of the desktop will work; it might be if it crashed later on [05:58] luke@buffalo:~$ systemctl --user status gnome-session [05:58] ● gnome-session.service - GNOME Session Manager [05:58] Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/user/gnome-session.service; static; vendor preset: enabled) [05:58] Active: inactive (dead) [05:58] Well /var/crash is empty. [05:59] TheMuso: I suppose ubuntu-session.target is not active either then? [06:00] I did have a lockup at the beginning of the update process, but I suspect it is hardware related, that could be the reason, although I did run dpkg --configure -a and apt-get -f install afterwards. [06:00] TheMuso: "initctl list | grep gnome-session"? [06:00] Again, active (inactive dead) [06:00] gnome-session (Unity) start/running, process 5807 [06:00] ok, so you are not actually running a systemd session, supposedly it's all upstart then [06:01] Ok. [06:01] I just saw systemd --user in the process list and thought I was. [06:01] well, that has always run [06:01] Ok. [06:01] TheMuso: what's pid 5807? [06:02] it can't be gnome-session, as you already checked pgrep -- so it's something else [06:02] sleep infinity according to ps aux [06:02] hmm, dist-upgrading today rips out ubuntu-desktop, language-selector, aptdaemon etc. [06:03] Oh right, didn't notice that. [06:03] TheMuso: anything interesting in .xsession-errors? [06:03] Probably would have paid more attention if things weren't working at all. [06:04] upstart: gnome-session (Unity) main process (4295) killed by TERM signal [06:05] hey hey pitti, welcome back \o/ [06:06] pitti: Hrm it may be something broken on my system, hang on. [06:06] didrocks: merci ! comment vas-tu ? [06:06] TheMuso: what is "echo $DESKTOP_SESSION"? [06:06] TheMuso: you might be running a different session than "ubuntu"? [06:06] pitti: bien bien, merci ! ce sera mon tour pour les vacances dès demain soir :-) [06:07] pitti: ubuntu [06:07] I finished dist-upgrading my clean VM, rebooted, and gnome-session is still running [06:07] hrm ok, something local here, will keep digging, thanks. [06:07] (partial upgrade without removing ubuntu-desktop) [06:08] Well ubuntu-desktop is installed here, even though I dist-upgraded before... [06:10] seems to be the aptdaemon update, that's incompatible with language-selector, system-config-printer, etc. [06:11] Lovely. [06:20] pitti: Thanks, I'll see what I can work out what is going on locally. [06:56] good morning desktopers: [06:56] bonjour seb128, comment vas-tu ? [06:56] salut pitti ! [06:56] ça va bien, et toi ? bonnes vacances ? [06:57] seb128: oui, c'était bien ! on a allée le long du Danube pour une semaine, et passé quelque jours d'été chez nous [06:58] ah, super ! [06:58] vous avez eu du beau temps ? [06:58] seb128: le plus souvent, oui; pas trop chaud, et il a plu seulement deux fois [06:59] nickel [06:59] très bien pour le velo et camping [06:59] oui, pas trop chaud et pas trop de pluie c'est bien ! [06:59] welcome back ;-) [07:01] merci ! [07:36] happyaron, hey, still no deb for bug #1579246? why is it taking so long? [07:36] bug 1579246 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "802.1x auth issues in 16.04, keep asking for password" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1579246 [07:37] seb128: I'm looking at that atm [07:37] thanks [07:37] was debugging the nm-ovpn build failure, merging the patch makes it ftbfs [07:37] we have a responsive user eager to test, we should loose him over frustration because it takes a week to provide a deb [07:37] sure [07:37] thanks [08:03] morrrrrrrrrning [08:04] hey willcooke Laney [08:04] morning [08:04] morning Laney willcooke [08:04] did I beat L_aney? [08:04] hey happyaron! morning seb128 [08:04] seb128: I've built the package locally, should I make a PPA for it? [08:04] Laney: Hey, can I whine at you about GTK themes? [08:04] happyaron, as you want, or just add the deb to the bug [08:04] or just post the binary pkg as attachment? [08:04] hey Laney, hw are you? hello willcooke and happyaron too! [08:04] ok [08:04] hey pitti, wb! [08:05] willcooke, no, you failed by 1 minute [08:05] pitti: hey hello :) [08:05] infinity: can I join your whining? :) [08:05] pitti: You sure can! [08:05] firefox has several issues (scroll bar, check boxes, etc.) [08:05] infinity: I'd rather you whined at Launchpad. [08:05] pitti: Which one do you like best, wrong colours, incosistent borders, misrendered/missing scroll bar grabbers, or INVISIBLE CHECKBOXES? [08:06] infinity: the checkboxes for sure -- they really made me scratch my head when I tried to buy a train ticket :) [08:06] pitti: Heh. I've had to say "no, the tickbox is really there, just click around a bit" to more than one person this week. :P [08:06] are you talking about firefox? [08:06] Laney: Yeah. [08:06] Right [08:06] Get it to migrate [08:06] Laney: I don't really use other GUI applications. :P [08:07] Laney: Oh, this is fixed in proposed? [08:07] I think so - or if not then it's fixed with a rebuild [08:07] Laney: gedit is also FUBAR. [08:07] I can't remember if they ifdef [08:07] Laney: dark grey on black, FTW. [08:07] Laney: do we care about firefox powerpc and s390x packages? [08:07] Don't ask me [08:07] pitti, we (as maintainer&desktop) don't [08:08] pitti: We kinda do, for $reasons. [08:08] pitti: A look can be had. [08:08] but infinity and some other asked in the past that we don't drop those [08:08] infinity, we tried that [08:08] x_nox had a look previous week [08:08] but failed&had to move to other things [08:08] The looking didn't go well? [08:08] if you want to help please do [08:08] well, one Dimitri volunteer and he walked away [08:08] which let us with the current situation [08:09] these are exactly the two big-endian arches [08:09] Yep. [08:10] right, been there [08:10] The story in Debian is also endian-suspicious. [08:10] Anyhow, grabbing build logs, might not look until tomorrow morning. [08:11] and I guess pretty much everything else depends on migrating glibc [08:11] infinity, pitti, https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/08/09/%23ubuntu-desktop.html#t10:25 [08:11] If it's going to be monumental effort, I'll let it through, but it needs investigation before release, due to some rdep fun involving firefox. [08:11] infinity, pitti, https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/08/09/%23ubuntu-desktop.html#t13:09 might be of the use/hint [08:12] seb128: As for the mention in that log that deps are ORed with other browsers, that's true, but it wreaks havoc with germinate and component-mismatches. :/ [08:14] hum, k [08:14] infinity, x_nox tried https://launchpad.net/~xnox/+archive/ubuntu/nonvirt/+sourcepub/6790364/+listing-archive-extra [08:14] Oh, if this was the ICU thing, the correct answer is to use the system lib. [08:14] I'll play tomorrow. [08:15] There's exactly zero reason to use a bundled ICU. [08:15] thanks [08:15] Not that this shouldn't also be fixed upstream, though. Which was the point of xnox's tests, I believe. [08:24] good morning, desktop!!! [08:24] hey desrt! how was GUADEC? [08:26] honestly? [08:26] absolutely awesome [08:27] it may have been the best one. i was sad i had to leave early. [08:28] everything was very well planned, and went off without a hitch. ugly and boring city, but good venue. good (and different) social events every night... and everyone in a really good mood... [08:28] oh, well at least it was good :-) [08:28] how many people this year? [08:28] more than last year or the year before [08:28] which was... nice to see, for a change [08:29] i think gotenburg was maybe some kind of a low point... good one to have missed =) [08:29] location was a good pick [08:30] ya. karlsruhe is pretty easily trainable... i'm sure that helped to raise the numbers a lot.... but there were lots of americans there as well [08:30] not too difficult to get too and not too expensive [08:31] so now it's 4am and i'm listening to wilco. [08:31] mmm. [08:31] tragically hip is tonight [08:31] life is good :D [08:37] there's no food in this apartment! life sucks. [08:37] * desrt enjoys her coffee [08:38] shouldn't you be enjoying some sleep instead? ;-) [08:38] and ruin my beautiful jetlag? no way! [08:39] there's work to do! [08:39] :-) [08:39] infinity, there is more than that. JITs are disabled in fedora too, system icu is used, and compilation is reduced down to -O1 there. [08:40] it is buildable on s390x, for sure, cause fedora managed it. [08:40] desrt, speaking of work, can we get https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=767240 commited? [08:40] Gnome bug 767240 in gregex "Regex failures with pcre 8.38" [Normal,New] [08:40] ofc. [08:40] was in conference mode, sorry :) [08:41] no worry [08:41] (and all the potential reviewers were too) [08:42] i really need to fix my git-bz :( [08:42] anyway. pushed. [08:42] thanks [08:44] hi desrt!!!! [08:44] HI LANEY! [08:44] * desrt running jump hug [08:44] i am afraid you missed a good one :( [08:45] shucks [08:45] I did eat fish and chips at the seaside though [08:45] ...how were the chips? [08:46] some sand got blown onto them :( [08:47] well, texture is nice [08:48] mmm, gritty chips [08:48] everything still where you left it back at home? [08:49] morning [08:49] yup. just unpacking a bunch of mail now. [08:49] seems that my homeowners insurance got cancelled while i was gone [08:50] bleh [08:50] santander just announced a 3% -> 1.5% cut on my interest rate [08:50] i have a weird insurance company... they get upset over odd things... like when you don't pay... [08:51] on that note, i should probably also pay some of these various electricity bills... [08:51] "Santander recognises that these changes may mean some customers will need to consider whether their account is still right for them." [08:51] no shit [08:51] * desrt searches for a clever way to combine the words "interest" or "rate" and "exit" for comic effect and comes up short [08:55] wouldn't be surprised if I can't find better than 1.5% elsewhere though [08:58] same thing happened to me a few years ago with an online-only savings account that had a great rate.... i ended up shoving it into stocks intsead. [08:58] canadian taxes sort of punish you for having savings accounts anyway... [08:58] 2.2% on a five year fix [08:59] ._. [08:59] * Laney will wait until closer to the time [08:59] (THANKS LEAVE) [09:02] I was trying to find a savings account for the kiddies, but they have interest rates of < 1% which is quite the opposite of a savings account. [09:02] so I might buy them shares in Uber or something instead [09:19] Saviq, hey, just for info somebody opened bug #1613297 (unsure if you already had a bug open about that, I think that you mentioned the issue at some sprint) [09:19] bug 1613297 in unity (Ubuntu) "unity --replace crashes/closes some applications (but not all) since 16.04" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1613297 [09:20] seb128, right, we had a look with Trevinho about that, it kills everything that's launched by unity, could be a cgroup thing or something [09:20] right [09:20] well, there is a bug now [09:21] so feel free to subscribe/comment ;-) [09:21] doing, thanks [09:21] yw! === vrruiz_ is now known as rvr [09:47] seb128, Saviq all the process started by unity have as process group 'compiz' [09:47] andyrock, yeah sounds like that's what's getting killed [10:04] willcooke: read an interesting article recently on how difficult it is to short uber, and how one might approach it anyway [10:04] :) [10:07] I dont think I've got the wherewithal to short stocks [10:08] willcooke: long stocks are easy we've been putting them up since the dark ages [10:29] man chrome is dumb. it keeps giving me google.de results. [10:29] * desrt grumbles [10:31] ...and after switching it to google.ca, now it gives me google.de *and* speaks german to me [10:31] * desrt sobs [10:31] :D [10:32] also: i installed a firmware update on my phone when i happened to be in germany, and now the encrypted storage "please enter your pattern" screen on boot-up is german [10:32] perhaps it wants you to move [10:33] i don't understand for the life of me why this is such an awful experience.... does nobody ever travel? i see a lot of people on airplanes... it suggests that going between countries is sort of a popular thing to do... but apparently google doesn't know this? [10:33] * ogra_ just uses a sane phone :P [10:34] (one where i can whine directly into the developer ears if needed ;) ) [10:35] https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/chrome/sq-RT8-eIm8 [10:35] lol. known problem since 2010. [10:36] workaround: open some local state file in ~/.config/ with a text editor and delete some stuff [10:36] awesome [10:42] just got a letter from my savings account provider who is also cutting interest rates [11:09] Laney, nothing of mine got cut. But it's all 1 year term accounts, so I'm guessing they will cut on renewal. [11:09] Laney, https://www.ratesetter.com/ is the way to go.... [11:10] do you want referral link into that ponzi scheme? [11:13] xnox: will look soon [12:29] * Laney activates the ximion sign [12:29] it's much like the batman one [12:33] doesn't seem to work as well :-) [12:33] he's driving at 300kph across heidelberg right now [12:34] * Laney goes for lunch while that happens :P [13:15] so, I just uploaded http://people.canonical.com/~bjoern/yakkety/5.2.0/ [13:15] On a local rebuild the -proposed test failure cant be reproduced, so either its gone (good) or a Heisenbug (bad). Re-ran the test 7 times, always succeeding. [13:15] I havent tested the upgrade path with that yet with the latest changes (-impress/-draw lib move and libreoffice-gtk transitional), because that essentially needs a PPA build. [13:15] seb128: ^^ given the timing, still push this to proposed? [13:16] Sweet5hark, wfm, we can do another ppa upload round if you prefer as well [13:20] seb128: Id go for skipping the ppa, when the build finishes in -proposed, I will retest the upgrade path there ASAP. it should be ok from testing with plain dpkg -i testing here (instead of testing against an archive with "sudo apt" ...). [13:21] seb128: FWIW, im just as worried about the heisenbug that I cant reproduce locally right now. [13:23] Sweet5hark, wfm, I'm going to sponsor it [13:32] seb128: What channel did you tell someone ask me about menus? I can't seem to find it now. [13:33] seb128: Really, for GNOME3 and GTK3 desrt would be a better person to chat with. [13:33] tedg, #ubuntu-devel [13:33] k [13:41] omg it worked [13:41] * Laney gives ximion a nod [13:41] lol [13:42] seb128: are you still working on the pkcompat rdeps? since I have the update for 0install and gnome-system-tools ready? [13:42] Laney: what worked? :D [13:43] desrt, I'm trying to build an extension in GNOME3 for it to have global menus. Can I use unity-panel-service to get the menus from applications so I can display it? [13:43] btw, we learned that the PK aptcc backend has quite an amount of bugs - IMHO it needs some refactoring for a while now [13:43] yes... but why? [13:44] you would be better to use GMenuModel directly [13:44] * ximion needs more time [13:44] ximion: https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/08/16/#ubuntu-desktop.html#t12:29 [13:44] the protocol for putting the appmenu in gnome-shell is the same one that gtk uses to export the menus [13:44] and even unity-gtk-module (for gtk apps that don't export their own menus) uses this [13:44] ximion: lemme push something, then I have a question [13:44] so it would be a very minor tweak to make gnome-shell display the menubar [13:45] i expect like ~100 lines of javascript [13:46] :D [13:46] * ximion needs a service that keeps him online on IRC all the time [13:47] how about for none gtk apps? [13:48] ximion: some people like irccloud [13:48] anyways [13:48] https://github.com/iainlane/appstream-generator/blob/translations/source/result.d#L232 <- this doesn't work, because of https://github.com/ximion/appstream/blob/master/src/as-component.c#L996 [13:48] cyphermox, I was looking at something else and was going back to that, please upload those you have [13:49] after I add the 'C' one, it's never empty because of that fallback [13:49] fixing it by sorting C to be last seems like a hack... [13:50] seb128: ok [13:51] Laney: we want to have either a new method to get the description without fallback, or a flag in AsComponent to disable the fallback [13:51] I would probably use the latter... [13:52] but at time, anything is possible in libappstream, I am allowed to break the API in Git master at the moment < < [13:54] having a set of flags controlling whether there is a fallback in AsComponent is IMHO a good idea, since it allows software centers to still use the simple API, while allowing asgen to have full control over fallbacks. Having a set of AsValueFlags (or whatever it will be called) would also allow us to extend this later without API break, e.g. in case we want to add additional flags there [13:54] (I already have a few in mind) [13:55] desrt, Also, does the GMenuModel hide the menu in the app too? Am still looking at the code of indicator-appmenu to understand how it hides the menu when the applet is added to the gnome-panel in gnome-flashback. [13:56] Laney: I could implement this today, I think [13:56] would bin you to AppStream master though (but that's inevitable anyway) [13:56] *bind [13:57] ximion: if you want to, that would be nice [13:58] master is okay for now, would want a release soon if possible [14:00] Laney: I have a big bunch of complex changes for the next (0.10) release, so I can't give an ETA on that, unfortunately... [14:00] I hope I can somehow get it ready for inclusion into Yakkety though [14:05] ximion: Oops I started adding flag stuff, let me do the first round and then you can fix it up :P [14:05] my fingers worked without my permission [14:06] call it AsValueFlags [14:06] did [14:07] I also want to use them to check for e.g. duplicates when adding new values to a GPtrArray [14:07] (because dupe check on a short GPtrArray is better than investing more memory in a GHashTable, and has almost the same speed) [14:08] Laney: btw, I will need to regenerate the D bindings for AppStream [14:08] before this is useful [14:08] ya [14:29] shemgp: it is done by the {unity,gnome}-settings-daemon via an XSETTINGS property [14:30] "Gtk/ShellShowsMenubar" [14:31] the settings daemon checks for a certain dbus name being owned or not to guess if the panel is showing the menu [14:32] it is a bit of a weird approach, and I never really cared for it... [14:51] ximion: https://github.com/iainlane/appstream.git has a thing, do what you will with it [14:51] where is the gir-d-generator? [14:55] Laney: here https://github.com/ximion/gir-d-generator [14:55] not in archive then? [14:55] I forked it a while back to not dynamically load the shared libraries and instead link them properly [14:56] thx, I'll see if this works [14:56] sooner or later, that thing should go back upstream [14:56] bet it's not easy to get it to use an uninstalled copy of libas [14:56] Laney: LD_LIBRARY_PATH [14:57] ^_^ [14:58] patch looks good :) [14:58] didn't know if you wanted to make it be a property [14:58] I wonder if it's time though to make some generic helper methods for bitfield operations [14:58] or have some more fancy accessors [14:58] but you can do that [14:59] desrt, thanks for the pointers. Do you think I'll still need to use the js equivalent of g_dbus_menu_model_get to get the GMenuModel? If so, which service actually exports the menu as a dbus_menu? [14:59] yeah, I am thinking about just a classical get/set thing and provide some helper methods to work with bitfields [14:59] shemgp: the app itself exports it [14:59] shemgp: and there should already be appropriate wrappers in the shell, since this is exactly what is done to create the widgets of the app menu [15:02] two(!) flies just drowned themselves together in my teacup. [15:02] I affectionally can them romeo and juliet. [15:06] Laney: I will add that patch asap and regenerate the bindings [15:06] (also good to fix the CI < < ) [15:06] merci monsieur [15:08] ximion: how do I use this gir-d-generator? [15:08] it's whining about APILookup.txt [15:12] Laney: that is because I apparently didn't include the wrapfiles... [15:13] oho [15:13] i'll wait for you :P [15:14] in the weeds a bit on this stuff [15:17] * Laney drags up knowledge of langpacks [15:17] urghhhhhhhhhhhhhh [15:17] Laney: updated that stuff [15:20] ta [15:28] Laney: btw, if you type "make", asgen will be compiled with high optimization and debug symbols by default [15:28] nice [15:28] if you don't want to wait ages for the build, there is "make fast" [15:28] I should rebase my branch [15:29] * Laney is scared [15:29] git submodule update --remote would be nice, BTW :-) [15:29] Laney: I learned about a cool new build system called Meson at GUADEC - that thing compiles asgen in a few seconds, and doesn't have all the limitations dub has [15:29] haha [15:29] Me...son... [15:29] * Laney knows the creator [15:29] was he there? [15:30] gah [15:30] yes [15:30] meeting time already [15:30] * Laney snuggles Jussi [15:30] nice guy, he sold his build system very well [15:30] #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-08-16 [15:30] he used to work at Canonical [15:30] Meeting started Tue Aug 16 15:30:50 2016 UTC. The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [15:30] Available commands: action commands idea info link nick === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-08-16 | Current topic: [15:30] oh [15:30] OH [15:31] Wont take long lots of people are out/hols today [15:31] Roll call: andyrock (out), attente, desrt, dgadomski, fjkong (out), happyaron (out), hikiko (hols), laney, qengho, seb128 (out), sweet5hark, themuso (out), tkamppeter, trevinho (hols), robert_ancell (out) [15:31] hea [15:31] Aiee! [15:31] hihi [15:33] howdy. [15:33] let's crack on.... [15:33] #topic andyrock === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-08-16 | Current topic: andyrock [15:33] # [BUG:942962] Setting ‘Menus discovery duration’ to 0 does not [15:33] disable menu discovery [15:33] # [BUG:1609845] sudo ubuntu-sdk ... open project ... click to file [15:33] right key mouse "Show Containing Folder" . a folder shortcut in unity [15:33] sidebar is not active [15:33] # Looking around for [15:33] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1613297 [15:33] Launchpad bug 1613297 in unity (Ubuntu) "unity --replace crashes/closes some applications (but not all) since 16.04" [High,Triaged] [15:33] # Bug triaging [15:33] # Reviews [15:33] #topic attente === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-08-16 | Current topic: attente [15:34] hey [15:34] i'm starting work on a snapcraft plugin to snap things using jhbuild [15:35] that's pretty much it, besides some gtk-mir reviews [15:35] (eof) [15:35] thanks attente [15:35] #topic desrt === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-08-16 | Current topic: desrt [15:35] - went to guadec [15:35] - left yesterday. got back to toronto late evening. still very much on european time (...give it a week or so) [15:36] - bugs [15:36] - continuing dconf stuff [15:36] eof [15:36] thanks desrt :) [15:36] I saw you looking at a paddling pool :) [15:36] lo [15:36] also 'l' [15:36] #topic dgadomski === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-08-16 | Current topic: dgadomski [15:36] hey [15:36] * working on symlink checking in glib/gvfs for bug #1598183 [15:36] bug 1598183 in gvfs "Operation not permitted while writing to symlinked fuse locations" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1598183 [15:37] * made some progress with adjusting RawTherapee to work as a snap, but it's not ready yet [15:37] eof [15:37] thanks dgadomski [15:37] #topic FJKong === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-08-16 | Current topic: FJKong [15:37] *running test case of sogou: [15:37]