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popeyHello!14:58
popeyGet your questions in, start them with QUESTION:14:58
dragonbite*waves*14:58
* popey waves back14:59
ChloeWolfieGirlQUESTION: How are you today?14:59
dragonbiteQUESTION: so what's today's subject?14:59
ChloeWolfieGirlQUESTION: been up to anything fun recently?14:59
ChloeWolfieGirlQUESTION: Got any fun plans?14:59
dragonbiteQUESTION: If you were a tree, what kind of a tree would you be?15:00
ChloeWolfieGirldragonbite: IMPORTANT!15:00
ChloeWolfieGirlQUESTION: If Ubuntu Phone was a sandwage, what sandwage would it be?15:00
ChloeWolfieGirlQUESTION: Whats your favourite sandwage?15:00
DanUbuntu sandwage15:00
dragonbiteSudo make me a sandwage!15:01
ChloeWolfieGirlheh :315:01
DanDayum!15:01
popeyo/15:02
Na3iL\o15:02
ChloeWolfieGirlWell I dont think we need any more questions this week, the important ones have been asked15:02
dragonbiteQUESTION: What is your favorite Olympic event?15:02
ChloeWolfieGirlHello :315:02
dragonbite\o \o \o \o o/ \o \o \o \o (synchronized swimming?)15:02
ChloeWolfieGirlTICKITY BOO :D15:03
DanQUESTION: Have you watched Stranger Things?15:03
tsimonq2oh noes I forgot to prep questions :P15:04
dragosQUESTION:Is there ubuntu for raspberry pi 2?15:04
ChloeWolfieGirl;-;15:04
guivercdragos:  I just installed Ubuntu-Mate 16.04 on my PI 2 B+15:05
guivercworks wonderfully (as far as tested so far)15:05
Blue2QUESTION: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FFW-56polHFclXJfSRunGK1TL7vTk_RzgCoJdhIxVl0/edit?usp=sharing15:05
ChloeWolfieGirlQUESTION: What do you think about the google os thing they're doing which isn't linux?15:05
nintF1linkwhy ubuntu 16.04 lts sometimes not heard?15:06
ChloeWolfieGirlQUESTION: When will system 76 make an ubuntu phone so Michael Hall can have a good one?15:07
ChloeWolfieGirlQUESTION: MS keep advertising Photoshop in there ads, when will we get Photoshop as a snap?15:07
wolow010QUESTION: will unity8 be shipped in 16.10 ISO image as an alternative session ?15:07
mariogripChloeWolfieGirl: oneplus has us phones :P15:07
ChloeWolfieGirlQUESTION: When Ubuntu personal is out, will we see ubuntu laptops everywhere?15:08
ChloeWolfieGirlmariogrip: they don't sell them though :P15:08
nintF1linksupertux 2 and supertuxkart will be preinstalled game?15:08
dragonbiteQUESTION: Any new phones coming out?  It's been quiet lately15:08
wolow010QUESTION: How many programming lanuages do you know ?15:09
mariogripChloeWolfieGirl: depends how pushy we are on oneplus :)15:09
ChloeWolfieGirlQUESTION: Snappy phones?15:09
ChloeWolfieGirlmariogrip: haha x'D15:09
ChloeWolfieGirlQUESTION: When will Michael Hall go to OnePlus and demand them to sell there phones with Marius's ports x'D15:09
mariogrip:P15:10
popeyhttps://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLcaie4S7t_Q1GwWXo64dKHWcsilrjRZBc15:10
dragonbiteQUESTION: outside of convergence w/Unity 8, any planned improvements for the desktop (laptop)?  Just snaps?15:10
nintF1link0ad will be preinstalled game?15:10
ChloeWolfieGirlQUESTION: has there been any updates with mycroft and HuD?15:10
ChloeWolfieGirlQUESTION: any messaging framework update?15:11
tsimonq2hahahahahaha15:11
dragonbiteQUESTION: Do you have any questions for US?15:11
nintF1linksomeday create a shooter, other than AssaultCube?15:11
ChloeWolfieGirl:')15:11
nick011QUESTION: Will there be support for Android apps on ubuntu touch? I don't Ubuntu touch can survive only on native apps, android and ios is too big...15:12
nick011i don't think**15:12
ChloeWolfieGirlQUESTION: whens the next apps updates?15:12
ChloeWolfieGirlSteam controllers are great :P15:13
ChloeWolfieGirlAnd video games are also great :P15:13
dragonbite+115:13
riddles_QUESTION: any news on new ubuntu phones? mx6, pro 6?15:13
dragonbiteQUESTION: are there any GUI-based apps running in Ubuntu Bash on Windows 10?15:14
riddles_QUESTION: when will the new ubuntu terminal app be available on the tablet?15:14
tsimonq2omg tree questions XD rofl15:15
ubuntumartinis a good time to get a 4k monitor for my ubuntu computer. or should I wait?15:15
riddles_QUESTION: when will the phones and tablets be upgraded to 16.04 and snaps?15:15
mariogripQUESTION: What are your favorite stickers from opensource projects15:16
dragonbitewow... that's interesting about the swimming!15:16
riddles_QUESTION: what do you want more to see a new ubuntu tablet or a phone?15:16
DanMariogrip: Octocat, Bower, Ember15:16
riddles_QUESTION: what about a x86 tablet?15:16
nick011QUESTION: What android phone would you like see an ubuntu touch on15:17
tsimonq2I'm not ready yet with my 10 questions! :P15:18
riddles_QUESTION: what new ubuntu phone/tablet apps and game do you like?15:18
dragonbiteQUESTION: Is there any means (with a WINE-like emulator?) to run Android apps in Linux (esp. now that ChromeOS is getting Android App support)?15:18
guivercriddles_  x86 tablets are around; have been for years... (i have one; with wacom pen)15:18
nick011QUESTION: What ubports device do you like best15:18
ChloeWolfieGirlQUESTION: WHats your favourite non linux podcasts?15:18
ChloeWolfieGirl+115:19
ChloeWolfieGirlI know that feel15:19
craniumslowsHappy Debian Day!15:19
dragonbiteQUESTION: Is there a MS SQL Server snap for running on Ubuntu?  Or even an entire ASP.NET web server (.NET core, MS SQL Server, etc.)?15:19
craniumslowsI was also curious about snap15:19
dragonbiteQUESTION: when running Ubuntu bash on Windows 10, does the application/services close when the terminal windows is closed?  Like if I install a LAMP server, will it be running when open and stopped when closed (for PHP dev work), or will it continue to run?15:20
wolow_010QUESTION: what's your favourite text editor ?15:21
tsimonq2OOH ^15:21
tsimonq2Vim! :D15:21
mariogripatom :)15:21
guivercI agree with simon/tsimonq2 ; you can't get better than VIm.15:23
mariogripQUESTION: What is the status for proprietary Nvidia devices in mir15:24
tsimonq2hey guiverc! \o/15:24
tsimonq2QUESTION: When will davidcalle get Ubuntu Membership?15:24
tsimonq2(blame Daniel :P)15:24
tsimonq2QUESTION: What's your favorite part about this summer so far?15:24
tsimonq2QUESTION: What's the most interesting device you believe Snappy Ubuntu Core can and will run on?15:24
guiverc(counting down for flame-war....)15:24
craniumslowsQUESTION: I'm ignorant of Ubuntu development, but does duplicate / fake GPG keys floating around mean any change in the development process for Ubuntu? Or is everyone just using full hashes anyway  https://lkml.org/lkml/2016/8/15/44515:24
tsimonq2QUESTION: What's the difference between the release cycle of Android and Ubuntu Touch?15:24
tsimonq2QUESTION: Do you use hard drives or SSDs and if both, what where?15:24
tsimonq2QUESTION: Alan, what's going on with YouTube Live?15:24
tsimonq2QUESTION: What computer do you use daily? (or what computer do you use if it's not your main one?)15:24
tsimonq2QUESTION: Do you prefer using Git or Bazaar (or other) and why?15:24
Na3iLQUESTION: just out of curiosity, besides than Ubuntu what's the distro that you like the most and why15:24
tsimonq2QUESTION: Do you guys run your own home servers or do you host them elsewhere? (if at all?)15:24
tsimonq2QUESTION: What do I do if I want to submit a feature request in Launchpad?15:24
tsimonq2muahahahahahahahahahahahaha15:24
craniumslowsThank you for doing this mhall119 and popey  ! I really enjoy live linux shows15:25
dragonbiteI wanted to create Snaps with WINE so I can play games and have everything pre-configured!15:25
jarlathQUESTION popey has a video of Dosbox running nicely on the E4.5. I tried recently with libertins and its no playable.  how did you get it working and how come libertine is so much slower?15:25
mariogripQUESTION: What do you think about having an all *buntu flavor party, or the kubuntu party?15:26
tsimonq2+1 guiverc15:26
tsimonq2OOH +1 mariogrip15:26
tsimonq2mariogrip: I'm in :D15:26
mariogripbring the big *buntu family together :D15:27
jarlathQUESTION what improvements to app lifecycle limitations are we likely to see in the future?15:27
miswichQUESTION: when people ask when will $APP be on ubuntu the answer is always you must ask the people who make $APP. but if canonical asked they would listen more because canonical are a company. does anyone working at canonical ask these companies? do they have any success?15:28
wolow_010QUESTION:  which ubuntu-based distro that you like the most?15:28
guivercsimon:  was a good blog on LXQt; even got mentioned in systemAU podcast (indirectly) I heard earlier today.15:28
craniumslowsLove all the questions flowing now15:28
tsimonq2guiverc: omg REALLY? link me please!15:28
tsimonq2nvm I found it15:29
wolow_010QUESTION : can closed source apps be distributed as snaps ?15:29
guivercthanks si,mon... ep36 anyway.15:29
tsimonq2ok15:30
tsimonq2thanks guiverc15:30
craniumslowsHave the AMD drivers gotten any better for 3d acceleration?  I have had a hell of time in the past getting the AMD stuff to work15:30
jarlathQUESTION: I wamted to snap the amazing hidclient but it doesnt work with the current bluetooth stack and the author has disapeared. Who should I approach that might be interested in debugging it?15:31
craniumslowsABAP in the house!15:32
craniumslowsawww yeah15:32
craniumslowsha ha15:32
craniumslowsAdvanced Business Application Programming15:32
craniumslowsit's a slow death15:32
craniumslowsAlso death to anyone who calls S-A-P sap15:33
craniumslowssorry I have strong feelings about SAP15:33
wolow_010QUESTION : are we going to see ads in unity8 :P15:33
ChloeWolfieGirlQUESTION: Is there any update on new scopes, from last estimated delivary time it should be within 3 months, is that still planned, is it being pushed back or got a better idea of release date?15:33
ChloeWolfieGirlQUESTION: are you going to get this far answering questions?15:33
guivercsimon:  -1:12:19 (out of 1:36:24) is middle of talking about it; indirect because quoting from softpedia article quoting you as source...15:33
craniumslowsha ha oh man bat files.15:34
ChloeWolfieGirlwolow_010 and install apps without our permission :P15:35
tsimonq2oh ok guiverc15:35
tsimonq2guiverc: thanks15:35
guivercmost welcome.15:35
wolow_010QUESTION: are snaps as secure as debs/rpms on x11 ?15:36
roasted2QUESTION: Can you explain what the Unity 8 dash does or may ultimately look like? (I thought I read --somewhere-- that the dash as we know it in U7 was removed in U8)15:37
guivercnice try @Michael at trying to become a billionaire....15:37
jarlathQUESTION: Libertine apps arent added to the bash path now. Can that happen? Its handy for cli apps (although the lifecycle of apps isnt)15:37
craniumslowssystemctl enable 201115:38
dragonbiteQUESTION: Microsoft lost the keys to UEFI booting, does that mean installing Linux on modern systems will become easier?15:39
craniumslowsSo are are snaps larger than .debs ?15:39
jarlathQUESTION: How come the Toady scope still has bugs?15:40
ChloeWolfieGirlQUESTION: Does your mycroft install use your voice?15:41
jarlathQUESTION: Will the dialler ever open in less than a second on the E4.5 or should I get a faster phone?15:43
ChloeWolfieGirlIts called marketting mhall119 :P15:43
mariogrippopey: someone else :) oooohhh me got some plans ;)15:43
mariogrippopey: mhall119 i think you guys need to be a bit quicker if you want to to cover every question15:45
craniumslowsOh is ncurses in Windows 10 ?15:46
craniumslowsthat's my favorite little library15:46
craniumslows"little"15:46
wolow_010QUESTION: systemd and ubuntu- touch ?15:46
craniumslowsWhat project is he talking about? I missed it15:49
tsimonq2+1 mariogrip15:52
tsimonq2you guys might not get to my questions and that's a first15:52
tsimonq2:P15:53
craniumslowsYAYA15:53
craniumslowsThe Xen Panda is so cool15:53
ahoneybunall from tsimonq215:53
craniumslowshttps://blog.xenproject.org/2010/06/10/xen-org-mascot-whats-the-pandas-name/ Wow that's neat trivia that you're related15:53
tsimonq2YUP ahoneybun :D15:53
craniumslowsNice dodge15:56
guivercnope - you both gave WRONG answers about text editors !!!15:57
craniumslowsha ha15:57
mariogripI use the same as popey atom and nano :D15:57
craniumslowsI'm with you guiverc15:57
guiverc:)15:57
ahoneybunnano and kate15:57
tsimonq2Vim Vim Vim!!!15:57
craniumslowsThe correct answer is Vimmy important15:57
ahoneybundamn vim15:58
guivercVI if VIM not available; otherwise BIM always15:58
tsimonq2oh come on mhall119 :P15:58
guiverc:s/BIM/VIM/15:58
craniumslowsWhat podcast isn't family friendly?15:59
craniumslowsI enjoy those15:59
acheronukThe only useful vim http://i.imgur.com/ECnipUy.png16:00
tsimonq2pssssht16:00
ahoneybunlol16:00
guiverc:) @ acheronuk16:00
ahoneybunnice acheronuk16:01
ChloeWolfieGirlcraniumslows: haha x'D16:01
popeythanks everyone!16:01
acheronukshame I missed most of that16:01
guivercThanks Alan & Michael & folks16:01
ChloeWolfieGirlThats weird... seems like hangouts is being pushed out16:02
dragonbiteThanks y'all!16:02
popeyits recorded on youtube :)16:02
tsimonq2acheronuk: ^16:02
dragonbitewhat do you mean "hangouts is being pushed out"?16:02
ahoneybunrenaming it to YouTube Live16:02
acheronukpopey: yeah, I gathered, but I can't put live comments on here for you to read with that. :P16:03
ChloeWolfieGirlElo, the other one, youtube live16:03
ahoneybunHangout messaging is still there16:03
popeyyeah16:03
ChloeWolfieGirlI think knock knock or something was the other one16:03
popeyit's only Hangouts On Air which is moving16:03
popeyhttps://support.google.com/youtube/answer/708378616:03
popeythere's the announcement16:03
ChloeWolfieGirlyeah hangouts still there, but so xmpp support :P16:03
craniumslowsI like how this page is setup. Time to get back to work though.  Party on!16:05
ChloeWolfieGirlI'm just saying if they wanted to keep hangouts that they would have updated hangouts rather then make 2 new messaging apps and moving a service away from the hangouts name16:06
dragonbiteIt's the Google way...16:10
office_help: how to come out of this mess: Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty/universe Translation-en_IN                 Fetched 72 B in 18s (3 B/s)                                                     Reading package lists... Done harshitha@personal:~$ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done Calculating upgrade... Done The following packages will be u16:11
office_help: The following packages will be upgraded:   ttf-mscorefonts-installer 1 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. 1 not fully installed or removed. Need to get 0 B/27.8 kB of archives. After this operation, 134 kB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] n Abort. harshitha@personal:~$16:12
office_please, help to over come this mess. I could not upgrade.16:12
dragonbitewhat happens if you hit "Y" to "Do you want to continue?"16:13
office_if I hit "Y", it takes me to a terminal and waits and waits and waits.16:14
dragonbitecan you do a "sudo apt remove ttf-mscorefonts-installer" and then "sudo apt install ttf-mscorefonts-installer" or some other means to purge it?16:18
dragonbiteI don't know if that will work or help...16:18
dragonbiteor could try "sudo apt clean" because it "Clears out the local repository of retrieved package files. " (http://linux.die.net/man/8/apt-get)16:21
office_dear dragonbite, i made attempts to remove through sudo apt remove ttf-mscorefonts-installer. It has been making attempts.16:21
office_The message I get is "harshitha@personal:~$ sudo apt remove ttf-mscorefonts-installer Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done The following packages will be REMOVED:   ttf-mscorefonts-installer 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded. 1 not fully installed or removed. After this operation, 0 B of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to con16:23
office_dpkg: error processing package ttf-mscorefonts-installer (--remove):  package is in a very bad inconsistent state; you should  reinstall it before attempting a removal E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) harshitha@personal:~$16:23
office_This bug appears when I use sudo apt-get dist-upgrade command in the terminal16:25
dragonbitehow about "sudo apt --fix-broken" (or "sudo apt -f") ... "Fix. Attempt to correct a system with broken dependencies in place. This option, when used with install/remove, can omit any packages to permit APT to deduce a likely solution."16:26
dragonbitesudo apt --reinstall ttf-mscorefonts-installer  ("Re-Install packages that are already installed and at the newest version.", will probably fail though)16:28
office_yes16:28
office_I shouldn't have wished for microsoft fonts in opensource forum. I made a mistake.16:29
dragonbiteyou could also look in /var/cache/apt/arcives/ (for retrieved package files) or /var/cache/apt/archives/parital/ (Storage area for package files in transit.)16:30
office_ok16:31
dragonbitesee if there is a partial for ttf-mscorefonts-installer and possibly move it and see if apt will re-download a good one16:31
dragonbiteI say "move" so if it change the error drastically you can move it back.16:31
office_solved the problem in an unconventional way: deleted partial directory. rebooted. fine. thanks. dear dragonbite16:36
dragonbite*whew* good to hear!16:37

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