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[14:58] <popey> Hello!
[14:58] <popey> Get your questions in, start them with QUESTION:
[14:58] <dragonbite> *waves*
[14:59]  * popey waves back
[14:59] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: How are you today?
[14:59] <dragonbite> QUESTION: so what's today's subject?
[14:59] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: been up to anything fun recently?
[14:59] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: Got any fun plans?
[15:00] <dragonbite> QUESTION: If you were a tree, what kind of a tree would you be?
[15:00] <ChloeWolfieGirl> dragonbite: IMPORTANT!
[15:00] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: If Ubuntu Phone was a sandwage, what sandwage would it be?
[15:00] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: Whats your favourite sandwage?
[15:00] <Dan> Ubuntu sandwage
[15:01] <dragonbite> Sudo make me a sandwage!
[15:01] <ChloeWolfieGirl> heh :3
[15:01] <Dan> Dayum!
[15:02] <popey> o/
[15:02] <Na3iL> \o
[15:02] <ChloeWolfieGirl> Well I dont think we need any more questions this week, the important ones have been asked
[15:02] <dragonbite> QUESTION: What is your favorite Olympic event?
[15:02] <ChloeWolfieGirl> Hello :3
[15:02] <dragonbite> \o \o \o \o o/ \o \o \o \o (synchronized swimming?)
[15:03] <ChloeWolfieGirl> TICKITY BOO :D
[15:03] <Dan> QUESTION: Have you watched Stranger Things?
[15:04] <tsimonq2> oh noes I forgot to prep questions :P
[15:04] <dragos> QUESTION:Is there ubuntu for raspberry pi 2?
[15:04] <ChloeWolfieGirl> ;-;
[15:05] <guiverc> dragos:  I just installed Ubuntu-Mate 16.04 on my PI 2 B+
[15:05] <guiverc> works wonderfully (as far as tested so far)
[15:05] <Blue2> QUESTION: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FFW-56polHFclXJfSRunGK1TL7vTk_RzgCoJdhIxVl0/edit?usp=sharing
[15:05] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: What do you think about the google os thing they're doing which isn't linux?
[15:06] <nintF1link> why ubuntu 16.04 lts sometimes not heard?
[15:07] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: When will system 76 make an ubuntu phone so Michael Hall can have a good one?
[15:07] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: MS keep advertising Photoshop in there ads, when will we get Photoshop as a snap?
[15:07] <wolow010> QUESTION: will unity8 be shipped in 16.10 ISO image as an alternative session ?
[15:07] <mariogrip> ChloeWolfieGirl: oneplus has us phones :P
[15:08] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: When Ubuntu personal is out, will we see ubuntu laptops everywhere?
[15:08] <ChloeWolfieGirl> mariogrip: they don't sell them though :P
[15:08] <nintF1link> supertux 2 and supertuxkart will be preinstalled game?
[15:08] <dragonbite> QUESTION: Any new phones coming out?  It's been quiet lately
[15:09] <wolow010> QUESTION: How many programming lanuages do you know ?
[15:09] <mariogrip> ChloeWolfieGirl: depends how pushy we are on oneplus :)
[15:09] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: Snappy phones?
[15:09] <ChloeWolfieGirl> mariogrip: haha x'D
[15:09] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: When will Michael Hall go to OnePlus and demand them to sell there phones with Marius's ports x'D
[15:10] <mariogrip> :P
[15:10] <popey> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLcaie4S7t_Q1GwWXo64dKHWcsilrjRZBc
[15:10] <dragonbite> QUESTION: outside of convergence w/Unity 8, any planned improvements for the desktop (laptop)?  Just snaps?
[15:10] <nintF1link> 0ad will be preinstalled game?
[15:10] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: has there been any updates with mycroft and HuD?
[15:11] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: any messaging framework update?
[15:11] <tsimonq2> hahahahahaha
[15:11] <dragonbite> QUESTION: Do you have any questions for US?
[15:11] <nintF1link> someday create a shooter, other than AssaultCube?
[15:11] <ChloeWolfieGirl> :')
[15:12] <nick011> QUESTION: Will there be support for Android apps on ubuntu touch? I don't Ubuntu touch can survive only on native apps, android and ios is too big...
[15:12] <nick011> i don't think**
[15:12] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: whens the next apps updates?
[15:13] <ChloeWolfieGirl> Steam controllers are great :P
[15:13] <ChloeWolfieGirl> And video games are also great :P
[15:13] <dragonbite> +1
[15:13] <riddles_> QUESTION: any news on new ubuntu phones? mx6, pro 6?
[15:14] <dragonbite> QUESTION: are there any GUI-based apps running in Ubuntu Bash on Windows 10?
[15:14] <riddles_> QUESTION: when will the new ubuntu terminal app be available on the tablet?
[15:15] <tsimonq2> omg tree questions XD rofl
[15:15] <ubuntumartin> is a good time to get a 4k monitor for my ubuntu computer. or should I wait?
[15:15] <riddles_> QUESTION: when will the phones and tablets be upgraded to 16.04 and snaps?
[15:16] <mariogrip> QUESTION: What are your favorite stickers from opensource projects
[15:16] <dragonbite> wow... that's interesting about the swimming!
[15:16] <riddles_> QUESTION: what do you want more to see a new ubuntu tablet or a phone?
[15:16] <Dan> Mariogrip: Octocat, Bower, Ember
[15:16] <riddles_> QUESTION: what about a x86 tablet?
[15:17] <nick011> QUESTION: What android phone would you like see an ubuntu touch on
[15:18] <tsimonq2> I'm not ready yet with my 10 questions! :P
[15:18] <riddles_> QUESTION: what new ubuntu phone/tablet apps and game do you like?
[15:18] <dragonbite> QUESTION: Is there any means (with a WINE-like emulator?) to run Android apps in Linux (esp. now that ChromeOS is getting Android App support)?
[15:18] <guiverc> riddles_  x86 tablets are around; have been for years... (i have one; with wacom pen)
[15:18] <nick011> QUESTION: What ubports device do you like best
[15:18] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: WHats your favourite non linux podcasts?
[15:19] <ChloeWolfieGirl> +1
[15:19] <ChloeWolfieGirl> I know that feel
[15:19] <craniumslows> Happy Debian Day!
[15:19] <dragonbite> QUESTION: Is there a MS SQL Server snap for running on Ubuntu?  Or even an entire ASP.NET web server (.NET core, MS SQL Server, etc.)?
[15:19] <craniumslows> I was also curious about snap
[15:20] <dragonbite> QUESTION: when running Ubuntu bash on Windows 10, does the application/services close when the terminal windows is closed?  Like if I install a LAMP server, will it be running when open and stopped when closed (for PHP dev work), or will it continue to run?
[15:21] <wolow_010> QUESTION: what's your favourite text editor ?
[15:21] <tsimonq2> OOH ^
[15:21] <tsimonq2> Vim! :D
[15:21] <mariogrip> atom :)
[15:23] <guiverc> I agree with simon/tsimonq2 ; you can't get better than VIm.
[15:24] <mariogrip> QUESTION: What is the status for proprietary Nvidia devices in mir
[15:24] <tsimonq2> hey guiverc! \o/
[15:24] <tsimonq2> QUESTION: When will davidcalle get Ubuntu Membership?
[15:24] <tsimonq2> (blame Daniel :P)
[15:24] <tsimonq2> QUESTION: What's your favorite part about this summer so far?
[15:24] <tsimonq2> QUESTION: What's the most interesting device you believe Snappy Ubuntu Core can and will run on?
[15:24] <guiverc> (counting down for flame-war....)
[15:24] <craniumslows> QUESTION: I'm ignorant of Ubuntu development, but does duplicate / fake GPG keys floating around mean any change in the development process for Ubuntu? Or is everyone just using full hashes anyway  https://lkml.org/lkml/2016/8/15/445
[15:24] <tsimonq2> QUESTION: What's the difference between the release cycle of Android and Ubuntu Touch?
[15:24] <tsimonq2> QUESTION: Do you use hard drives or SSDs and if both, what where?
[15:24] <tsimonq2> QUESTION: Alan, what's going on with YouTube Live?
[15:24] <tsimonq2> QUESTION: What computer do you use daily? (or what computer do you use if it's not your main one?)
[15:24] <tsimonq2> QUESTION: Do you prefer using Git or Bazaar (or other) and why?
[15:24] <Na3iL> QUESTION: just out of curiosity, besides than Ubuntu what's the distro that you like the most and why
[15:24] <tsimonq2> QUESTION: Do you guys run your own home servers or do you host them elsewhere? (if at all?)
[15:24] <tsimonq2> QUESTION: What do I do if I want to submit a feature request in Launchpad?
[15:24] <tsimonq2> muahahahahahahahahahahahaha
[15:25] <craniumslows> Thank you for doing this mhall119 and popey  ! I really enjoy live linux shows
[15:25] <dragonbite> I wanted to create Snaps with WINE so I can play games and have everything pre-configured!
[15:25] <jarlath> QUESTION popey has a video of Dosbox running nicely on the E4.5. I tried recently with libertins and its no playable.  how did you get it working and how come libertine is so much slower?
[15:26] <mariogrip> QUESTION: What do you think about having an all *buntu flavor party, or the kubuntu party?
[15:26] <tsimonq2> +1 guiverc
[15:26] <tsimonq2> OOH +1 mariogrip
[15:26] <tsimonq2> mariogrip: I'm in :D
[15:27] <mariogrip> bring the big *buntu family together :D
[15:27] <jarlath> QUESTION what improvements to app lifecycle limitations are we likely to see in the future?
[15:28] <miswich> QUESTION: when people ask when will $APP be on ubuntu the answer is always you must ask the people who make $APP. but if canonical asked they would listen more because canonical are a company. does anyone working at canonical ask these companies? do they have any success?
[15:28] <wolow_010> QUESTION:  which ubuntu-based distro that you like the most?
[15:28] <guiverc> simon:  was a good blog on LXQt; even got mentioned in systemAU podcast (indirectly) I heard earlier today.
[15:28] <craniumslows> Love all the questions flowing now
[15:28] <tsimonq2> guiverc: omg REALLY? link me please!
[15:29] <tsimonq2> nvm I found it
[15:29] <wolow_010> QUESTION : can closed source apps be distributed as snaps ?
[15:29] <guiverc> thanks si,mon... ep36 anyway.
[15:30] <tsimonq2> ok
[15:30] <tsimonq2> thanks guiverc
[15:30] <craniumslows> Have the AMD drivers gotten any better for 3d acceleration?  I have had a hell of time in the past getting the AMD stuff to work
[15:31] <jarlath> QUESTION: I wamted to snap the amazing hidclient but it doesnt work with the current bluetooth stack and the author has disapeared. Who should I approach that might be interested in debugging it?
[15:32] <craniumslows> ABAP in the house!
[15:32] <craniumslows> awww yeah
[15:32] <craniumslows> ha ha
[15:32] <craniumslows> Advanced Business Application Programming
[15:32] <craniumslows> it's a slow death
[15:33] <craniumslows> Also death to anyone who calls S-A-P sap
[15:33] <craniumslows> sorry I have strong feelings about SAP
[15:33] <wolow_010> QUESTION : are we going to see ads in unity8 :P
[15:33] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: Is there any update on new scopes, from last estimated delivary time it should be within 3 months, is that still planned, is it being pushed back or got a better idea of release date?
[15:33] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: are you going to get this far answering questions?
[15:33] <guiverc> simon:  -1:12:19 (out of 1:36:24) is middle of talking about it; indirect because quoting from softpedia article quoting you as source...
[15:34] <craniumslows> ha ha oh man bat files.
[15:35] <ChloeWolfieGirl> wolow_010 and install apps without our permission :P
[15:35] <tsimonq2> oh ok guiverc
[15:35] <tsimonq2> guiverc: thanks
[15:35] <guiverc> most welcome.
[15:36] <wolow_010> QUESTION: are snaps as secure as debs/rpms on x11 ?
[15:37] <roasted2> QUESTION: Can you explain what the Unity 8 dash does or may ultimately look like? (I thought I read --somewhere-- that the dash as we know it in U7 was removed in U8)
[15:37] <guiverc> nice try @Michael at trying to become a billionaire....
[15:37] <jarlath> QUESTION: Libertine apps arent added to the bash path now. Can that happen? Its handy for cli apps (although the lifecycle of apps isnt)
[15:38] <craniumslows> systemctl enable 2011
[15:39] <dragonbite> QUESTION: Microsoft lost the keys to UEFI booting, does that mean installing Linux on modern systems will become easier?
[15:39] <craniumslows> So are are snaps larger than .debs ?
[15:40] <jarlath> QUESTION: How come the Toady scope still has bugs?
[15:41] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: Does your mycroft install use your voice?
[15:43] <jarlath> QUESTION: Will the dialler ever open in less than a second on the E4.5 or should I get a faster phone?
[15:43] <ChloeWolfieGirl> Its called marketting mhall119 :P
[15:43] <mariogrip> popey: someone else :) oooohhh me got some plans ;)
[15:45] <mariogrip> popey: mhall119 i think you guys need to be a bit quicker if you want to to cover every question
[15:46] <craniumslows> Oh is ncurses in Windows 10 ?
[15:46] <craniumslows> that's my favorite little library
[15:46] <craniumslows> "little"
[15:46] <wolow_010> QUESTION: systemd and ubuntu- touch ?
[15:49] <craniumslows> What project is he talking about? I missed it
[15:52] <tsimonq2> +1 mariogrip
[15:52] <tsimonq2> you guys might not get to my questions and that's a first
[15:53] <tsimonq2> :P
[15:53] <craniumslows> YAYA
[15:53] <craniumslows> The Xen Panda is so cool
[15:53] <ahoneybun> all from tsimonq2
[15:53] <craniumslows> https://blog.xenproject.org/2010/06/10/xen-org-mascot-whats-the-pandas-name/ Wow that's neat trivia that you're related
[15:53] <tsimonq2> YUP ahoneybun :D
[15:56] <craniumslows> Nice dodge
[15:57] <guiverc> nope - you both gave WRONG answers about text editors !!!
[15:57] <craniumslows> ha ha
[15:57] <mariogrip> I use the same as popey atom and nano :D
[15:57] <craniumslows> I'm with you guiverc
[15:57] <guiverc> :)
[15:57] <ahoneybun> nano and kate
[15:57] <tsimonq2> Vim Vim Vim!!!
[15:57] <craniumslows> The correct answer is Vimmy important
[15:58] <ahoneybun> damn vim
[15:58] <guiverc> VI if VIM not available; otherwise BIM always
[15:58] <tsimonq2> oh come on mhall119 :P
[15:58] <guiverc> :s/BIM/VIM/
[15:59] <craniumslows> What podcast isn't family friendly?
[15:59] <craniumslows> I enjoy those
[16:00] <acheronuk> The only useful vim http://i.imgur.com/ECnipUy.png
[16:00] <tsimonq2> pssssht
[16:00] <ahoneybun> lol
[16:00] <guiverc> :) @ acheronuk
[16:01] <ahoneybun> nice acheronuk
[16:01] <ChloeWolfieGirl> craniumslows: haha x'D
[16:01] <popey> thanks everyone!
[16:01] <acheronuk> shame I missed most of that
[16:01] <guiverc> Thanks Alan & Michael & folks
[16:02] <ChloeWolfieGirl> Thats weird... seems like hangouts is being pushed out
[16:02] <dragonbite> Thanks y'all!
[16:02] <popey> its recorded on youtube :)
[16:02] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: ^
[16:02] <dragonbite> what do you mean "hangouts is being pushed out"?
[16:02] <ahoneybun> renaming it to YouTube Live
[16:03] <acheronuk> popey: yeah, I gathered, but I can't put live comments on here for you to read with that. :P
[16:03] <ChloeWolfieGirl> Elo, the other one, youtube live
[16:03] <ahoneybun> Hangout messaging is still there
[16:03] <popey> yeah
[16:03] <ChloeWolfieGirl> I think knock knock or something was the other one
[16:03] <popey> it's only Hangouts On Air which is moving
[16:03] <popey> https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/7083786
[16:03] <popey> there's the announcement
[16:03] <ChloeWolfieGirl> yeah hangouts still there, but so xmpp support :P
[16:05] <craniumslows> I like how this page is setup. Time to get back to work though.  Party on!
[16:06] <ChloeWolfieGirl> I'm just saying if they wanted to keep hangouts that they would have updated hangouts rather then make 2 new messaging apps and moving a service away from the hangouts name
[16:10] <dragonbite> It's the Google way...
[16:11] <office_> help: how to come out of this mess: Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty/universe Translation-en_IN                 Fetched 72 B in 18s (3 B/s)                                                     Reading package lists... Done harshitha@personal:~$ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done Calculating upgrade... Done The following packages will be u
[16:12] <office_> help: The following packages will be upgraded:   ttf-mscorefonts-installer 1 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. 1 not fully installed or removed. Need to get 0 B/27.8 kB of archives. After this operation, 134 kB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] n Abort. harshitha@personal:~$
[16:12] <office_> please, help to over come this mess. I could not upgrade.
[16:13] <dragonbite> what happens if you hit "Y" to "Do you want to continue?"
[16:14] <office_> if I hit "Y", it takes me to a terminal and waits and waits and waits.
[16:18] <dragonbite> can you do a "sudo apt remove ttf-mscorefonts-installer" and then "sudo apt install ttf-mscorefonts-installer" or some other means to purge it?
[16:18] <dragonbite> I don't know if that will work or help...
[16:21] <dragonbite> or could try "sudo apt clean" because it "Clears out the local repository of retrieved package files. " (http://linux.die.net/man/8/apt-get)
[16:21] <office_> dear dragonbite, i made attempts to remove through sudo apt remove ttf-mscorefonts-installer. It has been making attempts.
[16:23] <office_> The message I get is "harshitha@personal:~$ sudo apt remove ttf-mscorefonts-installer Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done The following packages will be REMOVED:   ttf-mscorefonts-installer 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded. 1 not fully installed or removed. After this operation, 0 B of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to con
[16:23] <office_> dpkg: error processing package ttf-mscorefonts-installer (--remove):  package is in a very bad inconsistent state; you should  reinstall it before attempting a removal E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) harshitha@personal:~$
[16:25] <office_> This bug appears when I use sudo apt-get dist-upgrade command in the terminal
[16:26] <dragonbite> how about "sudo apt --fix-broken" (or "sudo apt -f") ... "Fix. Attempt to correct a system with broken dependencies in place. This option, when used with install/remove, can omit any packages to permit APT to deduce a likely solution."
[16:28] <dragonbite> sudo apt --reinstall ttf-mscorefonts-installer  ("Re-Install packages that are already installed and at the newest version.", will probably fail though)
[16:28] <office_> yes
[16:29] <office_> I shouldn't have wished for microsoft fonts in opensource forum. I made a mistake.
[16:30] <dragonbite> you could also look in /var/cache/apt/arcives/ (for retrieved package files) or /var/cache/apt/archives/parital/ (Storage area for package files in transit.)
[16:31] <office_> ok
[16:31] <dragonbite> see if there is a partial for ttf-mscorefonts-installer and possibly move it and see if apt will re-download a good one
[16:31] <dragonbite> I say "move" so if it change the error drastically you can move it back.
[16:36] <office_> solved the problem in an unconventional way: deleted partial directory. rebooted. fine. thanks. dear dragonbite
[16:37] <dragonbite> *whew* good to hear!