[04:40] <RajRajRaj> torchic____!~noturboo@i.am.phantas.tk
[04:40] <RajRajRaj> Lol
[04:55] <Researcher> Good morning
[04:55] <Researcher> :)
[05:25] <Researcher> hi RajRajRaj
[05:25] <Researcher> morning dan-
[05:26] <Researcher> hi and salaam barlas
[05:26] <Researcher> :)
[05:26] <Researcher> hello chiefjustice
[05:26] <Researcher> hi hi hi zmeu
[05:26] <Researcher> :/
[05:26]  * Researcher slaps Kurwaa around a bit with a large trout
[05:56] <Researcher> good morning Kilos
[05:56] <Researcher> good morning pavlushka
[05:56] <Researcher> :)
[05:56] <Researcher> wb
[05:57] <Kilos> morning Researcher
[05:57] <Researcher> morning
[05:57] <Researcher> :)
[05:57] <Kilos> hehe
[05:57] <Kilos> hows your wiki page
[05:57] <Researcher> ill
[05:57] <Researcher> my wiki page needs a good doc like pavlushka
[05:58] <Kilos> get it up to date man and apply with pavel
[05:58] <Researcher> sure bro
[05:58] <Kilos> im sure he will help
[05:58] <Kilos> just get all your info ready'
[05:58] <Researcher> yes bro
[05:59] <Kilos> i get excited for you guys
[05:59] <Researcher> me toooo
[06:01] <Researcher> pvluska hv bad connection
[06:01] <Kilos> he has gone to do some work
[06:02] <Researcher> ahh
[06:02] <Kilos> but yes his connection sucks as well
[06:02] <Researcher> yeah he disconnect 100 times a day
[06:03] <Researcher> :D
[06:03] <Researcher> sometimes i also stop greeting him wb (welcome back)
[06:03] <Researcher> :D
[06:03] <Kilos> haha
[06:03] <Kilos> have you seen his wiki?
[06:03] <Researcher> nope
[06:03] <Kilos> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/pavelsayekat#preview
[06:03] <Researcher> ohhh kooool
[06:04] <Researcher> i will copy his wiki :D
[06:04] <Kilos> lol
[06:04] <Kilos> man you have your old one, just add what you have been doing since then
[06:04] <Kilos> dont remove old stuff
[06:05] <Kilos> only needs updating for the missing years when you loco got sick
[06:06] <Kilos> you didnt stop doing ubuntu work and helping others
[06:07] <Researcher>  though he was there all the time but motionless but now he speaks Smile :)
[06:07] <Researcher> WTFFFFFFF
[06:07] <Kilos> haha
[06:07] <Researcher> why he dont understand that i cant talk with ghosts
[06:07] <Researcher> :p
[06:07] <Researcher> he needs to update
[06:07] <Kilos> he was shy because he wasnt even approved
[06:07] <Researcher> the channel grown upto 37 nicks
[06:08] <Researcher> 34 are right now
[06:08] <Researcher> :D
[06:10] <Researcher> Kilos i noticed we have some guests in the channel
[06:10] <Researcher> lets speak with them :D
[06:10] <Researcher> hi ahoneybun
[06:11] <Kilos> yes it has grown
[06:11] <Researcher> yup
[06:11] <Researcher> :)
[06:11] <Kilos> oh he is most likely sleeping now
[06:11] <Researcher> yeah time difference
[06:11] <Kilos> he is in the usa
[06:11] <Researcher> yesterday mustu joined in here
[06:11] <Researcher> :)
[06:11] <Researcher> you remember once you ask me about mustu
[06:12] <Kilos> yes
[06:12] <Researcher> he joined here and were happy to see this chan
[06:12] <Kilos> great
[06:12] <Kilos> get him to spread the word
[06:12] <Researcher> yeah i asked him to join the team
[06:13] <Researcher> but i think he also suffered with same issues
[06:13] <Researcher> he was a bit rude because his words were clear that he had faced unjust situation here
[06:14] <Researcher> mustu were used to be an active guy
[06:14] <Kilos> just tell him times have changed
[06:14] <Researcher> and he became victom for politics here
[06:14] <Researcher> they intentionally kept him down
[06:14] <Kilos> he can now come back and be supported
[06:14] <Researcher> i told him to forget the past
[06:14] <Researcher> and hold the lead
[06:15] <Kilos> there will be no more politics here
[06:15] <Kilos> everyone that works with ubuntu and helps other users is welcome here
[06:16] <Kilos> those that come and try make trouble will be bannefd
[06:17] <Kilos> banned
[06:17] <Researcher> true
[06:17] <Researcher> yesterday mustu said : i hope u guys aren't brewing any bureaucratic BS like man desi do
[06:17] <Kilos> lol
[06:17] <Researcher> and he was thinking of credit earning and point scorings
[06:17] <Researcher> his mind was not accepting the growth of this channel
[06:18] <Kilos> lol
[06:18] <Researcher> i assured him that this time he will meet true peple
[06:18] <Researcher> people
[06:18] <Kilos> cool
[06:18] <Researcher> people who truely believe in the phylosophy of ubuntu i.e humanity
[06:18] <Kilos> introduce him to pavel as well then he can learn how things are happening here now too
[06:19] <Researcher> :)
[06:19] <Researcher> yeah
[06:19] <Researcher> actually he had a very short stay
[06:19] <barlas> Hi
[06:19] <Researcher> and he promises to join back today
[06:19] <Researcher> hi barlas
[06:19] <Kilos> hi barlas
[06:19] <Researcher> welcome back bro
[06:19] <Researcher> how are ya barlas
[06:19] <Researcher> glad to see you awake
[06:19] <Researcher> :)
[06:20] <barlas> I am well, thanks
[06:20] <Researcher> glad to hear from ya barlas
[06:20] <Researcher> :)
[06:20] <Researcher> i am coming back to pakistan
[06:20] <barlas> Noooo!
[06:20] <barlas> Why?
[06:20] <barlas> Don't come back! Stay there!
[06:20] <barlas> :D
[06:21] <Researcher> on 28th of august till 15 of Sep
[06:21] <Researcher> :D
[06:21] <Researcher> hey its my annual leave
[06:21] <Researcher> :D
[06:21] <Kilos> lol
[06:21] <Researcher> i will be taking my wife to honeymoon
[06:21] <Researcher> :p
[06:21] <Kilos> yoohoo
[06:22] <Researcher> :D
[06:22] <Researcher> i am also planning for birth tourism
[06:22] <Researcher> but its little far
[06:39] <Researcher> hi zaki
[06:39] <Researcher> wb
[06:39] <Researcher> :)
[06:44] <Kilos> zaki ?
[06:44] <Kilos> i go do chores Researcher wbb
[06:56] <barlas> birth tourism?
[06:56] <barlas> Researcher: When did you get married? :O
[07:17] <Researcher> barlas : i got married 2nd april
[07:17] <Researcher> :)_
[07:18] <Researcher> nikah made on 9 oct 2015
[07:19] <Researcher> barlas : my nikah pictures
[07:19] <Researcher> https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10208036564255758.1073741860.1348464500&type=1&l=d470da37c5
[07:20] <Researcher> barlas : my mehndi pictures https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10209326315138724.1073741863.1348464500&type=1&l=22230ad784
[07:21] <Researcher> barlas : the final ceremoney : Rukhsati pictures : https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10209326737229276.1073741864.1348464500&type=1&l=078df29a90
[08:01] <barlas> Researcher: You didn't invite me :(
[08:02] <barlas> Researcher: Which one are you? Asma or Zeeshan?
[08:04] <Kilos> lol
[08:58] <lubmil> dzień
[12:05] <lub`> https://scontent-waw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13912619_10154452661184777_7081962330706594601_n.jpg?oh=f58776e3fd098854d21cdbb078d88379&oe=584AEFCA
[12:05] <lub`> https://bit.ly/2aXbf64
[13:04] <Researcher> hi mustu
[13:04] <Researcher> :)
[13:05] <Researcher> hello everyone
[13:06] <Researcher> barlas : I am Zeeshan
[13:06] <Researcher> lol
[13:06] <Researcher> :S
[13:07] <mustu> hey Researcher
[13:10] <Researcher> how are ya mustu
[13:10] <Researcher> :)
[13:10] <Researcher> glad to hear from you.
[13:10] <Researcher> hi RajRajRaj
[13:10] <Researcher> Raj kaisay ho
[13:11] <mustu> im good
[13:11] <Researcher> cool
[13:11] <Researcher> mustu : what you do in real life ?
[13:11] <mustu> Researcher are you a pro Ubuntu user?
[13:11] <Researcher> well i am super pro
[13:11] <Researcher> :D
[13:13] <mustu> more into sysadmin/network stuff
[13:13] <Researcher> wb mustu
[13:13] <Researcher> :)
[13:13] <mustu> what do u do
[13:13] <Researcher> oh cool
[13:14] <Researcher> i am I.T manager in OMAN GAS
[13:14] <Researcher> :)
[13:14] <Researcher> also into finance and accounts
[13:14] <mustu> that's cool... so u r not in PK
[13:14] <Researcher> also ERP manager
[13:14] <Researcher> :)
[13:14] <Researcher> yeah i am right now not in pakistan
[13:14] <Researcher> i born in saudi arabia and currently residing in sultanate of oman
[13:15] <mustu> alright..
[13:15] <Researcher> what about you
[13:15] <mustu> are you alone or is there a group behind this revival
[13:15] <mustu> i'm residing in pk
[13:15] <Researcher> well there is a huge team effort
[13:15] <mustu> i would love to know
[13:15] <Researcher> Kilos, Pavlushka, Me, and every one here
[13:16] <Researcher> even we have people from every corner of this world
[13:16] <mustu> are all these guys real?
[13:16] <Researcher> for sure 100% real people
[13:16] <Researcher> :)
[13:16] <mustu> wht do u plan to do on grounds in PK?
[13:17] <mustu> to promote Ubuntu
[13:17] <Researcher> well mustu I am promoting ubuntu since 2009
[13:18] <Researcher> my first ubuntu wiki page was in 2007
[13:18] <Researcher> and since the 4 version  i am using ubuntu
[13:18] <Researcher> i am into linux since 2000
[13:18] <Kilos> hi mustu
[13:18] <Researcher> wb Kilos
[13:18] <Kilos> ty Researcher
[13:19] <mustu> hey Kilos
[13:19] <mustu> have you been involved in the past local events ?
[13:19] <Researcher> mustu : i am coming to this point
[13:20] <mustu> there were some local activities in past
[13:20] <Researcher> events need a proper management .. a good team leader
[13:20] <Researcher> I respect fawad bhai but to be honest he were too busy for this loco to lead
[13:21] <Researcher> most of the said events were fake
[13:21] <Researcher> they never happened
[13:21] <mustu> e.g. ?
[13:22] <Researcher> due to his ignorance, lack of maintaining the official website .. and his absence played a vital role in damaging the loco team pakistan
[13:22] <Researcher> also he never organized events or helped any one here
[13:23] <Researcher> i am the one who were and is here
[13:23] <mustu> there is a fan page and a group on facebook
[13:23] <Researcher> well ....
[13:23] <mustu> group was managed by fuaad
[13:23] <Researcher> fan pages and group pages cannot prove the efforts
[13:24] <mustu> fanpage was a different community
[13:24] <Researcher> fawad
[13:24] <Researcher> fawad riaz bajwa
[13:24] <mustu> have you seen the few events at that fanpage?
[13:25] <Researcher> he is foss advocate which cannot be cover in loco team scope
[13:25] <Kilos> guys i have to go round up and lock up sheep
[13:25] <Kilos> will be back
[13:25] <Researcher> sure Kilos
[13:25] <Researcher> mustu : what is the use of such events when only your personnel people can attend
[13:26] <Researcher> i tried to speak with him he refused couple of time said i am a busy person
[13:26] <Researcher> i even tried to contact with reference of junaid saeed uppal
[13:26] <Researcher> Junaid bhai is really a good friend of mine
[13:26] <Kilos> mustu as long as we all work together to get pk loco running smoothly again so that guys that help others can apply for ubuntu membership then its all good
[13:26] <mustu> i'm asking to know if we are on same page and fill in each other for what we don't know
[13:27] <Researcher> mustu thanks for sharing
[13:27] <mustu> have you talked to the fanpage guys ever or participated in any event organized bythem?
[13:27] <Researcher> how i can when i never received any email via mailing list
[13:28] <Researcher> i am a team pakistan member since 2008
[13:28] <mustu> well because the fan page guys weren't allowed to use official channels
[13:28] <Researcher> again .. limitations
[13:28] <Researcher> who set these rules
[13:28] <Researcher> ubutnu is not the ownership of loco teams or their leaders
[13:29] <Researcher> we have a proper code of conduct
[13:29] <Researcher> meetings
[13:29] <Researcher> also they train how to run the team smoothly
[13:29] <Researcher> this shows me that some one is trying to be the fish
[13:29] <Researcher> how long he will hold the position for no reason
[13:30] <Researcher> if he cannot he should resign and hand over to the correct person
[13:30] <Researcher> see this channel today
[13:30] <Researcher> we feel life here
[13:30] <Researcher> 8 years a was hanging here alone and talking to bots
[13:31] <Researcher> this clearly draws a picture of non confromity
[13:31] <Researcher> ubuntu not going to give assylum to such people such methods
[13:31] <Researcher> we must help each other
[13:31] <Researcher> i am not a paid employee
[13:31] <Researcher> i am a volunteer
[13:32] <Researcher> i have a vision of brighter pakistan, stronger and smart pakistan
[13:32] <Researcher> ubuntu invested a lot to help third world countries to get a benefit .. its not just a peace of OS or CD
[13:32] <Researcher> its a pure humanity
[13:32] <Researcher> we must respect and show our support in return
[13:33] <Researcher> mustu : i never get any invitation to join any official/semi official ubuntu facebook page
[13:34] <Researcher> infact fawad bhai ko chahiay tha k mailing list per sab ko update rakhtay
[13:34] <Researcher> we never had any road maps
[13:34] <Researcher> where we are standing today ?
[13:35] <Researcher> i have a agenda .. i setup goals .. and i attempt to achieve
[13:35] <Researcher> but unfortunately team pakistan scores the worst among the rest of the ubuntu teams worldwide
[13:37] <Researcher> mustu: whats your story, would u like to share ?
[13:38] <Researcher> RajRajRaj : aaj bohat khamosh ho :)
[13:38] <RajRajRaj> Researcher:  sorry yaaar thora kaam mei busy hu
[13:38] <mustu> hmm...
[13:38] <Researcher> chal good hay laga reh munna bhai
[13:38] <Researcher> :D
[13:39] <mustu> I had a bad experience with Fuaad
[13:40] <Researcher> please bro tell us then i will also tell you mine stories with him
[13:41] <mustu> when I got into Ubuntu I encountered some folks including Fuaad, Haroon and Nouman
[13:41] <mustu> and few other guys who were really good at translation
[13:42] <Researcher> i were a member of team translation
[13:42] <Researcher> :)
[13:42] <Researcher> mustu please continue
[13:42] <mustu> Fuaad was idle at that time... he didn't responded and neither he was active
[13:42] <mustu> I got company from Haroon whn is now in KSa and Nouman who still lives in KHI
[13:43] <Researcher> yeah he earns good and he have a higggghhh atitude ,,,
[13:43] <mustu> we started our efforts to reach out to grass root level and play our role in promoting Ubutu
[13:43] <mustu> who Haroon?
[13:43] <Researcher> fawad
[13:43] <mustu> We started Ubuntu Pakistan facebook page
[13:44] <mustu> we were taking it too serious.. two of our meeting minutes are here https://www.facebook.com/ubuntupakistan/notes
[13:44] <mustu> sorry 1 only
[13:45] <mustu> although Fuaad was idle and in no-resposne mood but soon after we started our activities we received threat from him
[13:46] <mustu> He threatened us saying he can sue us and blamed us to "hijack" "HIS" community
[13:46] <mustu> we were astonished by that BS
[13:46] <mustu> he still have control of the official PK mailing list ... we contacted him but he didn't allowed us to post in the official list about any event..
[13:47] <mustu> the conclusion from all the discussion with him was that he wanted to take and keep all the credit on himself only
[13:48] <mustu> i believe that's how he manages to make relation in internation industry by claiming such nation wide communities to his self
[13:49] <Researcher> musut sorry to interrupt .... loco team pakistan is not the property of FAWAD RIAZ BAJWA ... it is owned by any person any nationality any race who help the cause ..
[13:49] <mustu> however we gave zero fu*k and continued our efforts...
[13:50] <Researcher> who is fawad to decide.... keep doing your efforst ... and apply for membership here
[13:50] <Researcher> we will help you on all levels
[13:51] <mustu> we volunteered a lot of time in meeting with students, talkgin about Ubuntu... Me, Haroon and Nouman did organized some events.. you can check the album of that page
[13:51] <Researcher> we have a asia pecific board who keep a good eye on the regional activities
[13:51] <Researcher> fawad cannot trick any more
[13:51] <mustu> I was so passionate that I burned few dozen CDs and organized event from my pocket
[13:52] <Researcher> soon we will release the new standard and rules which will surely keep away such (fawad like) people away from doing political tricks
[13:52] <mustu> printed stickers for the CD :p... bought pizzas for all the participants
[13:52] <mustu> it was hell of fun
[13:52] <Researcher> mustu i did that lot of time :) i am now sad that i missed the party
[13:52] <Researcher> mustu : which city you organized the event ?
[13:53] <mustu> this was my first ubuntu release party I arranged at hardees https://www.facebook.com/ubuntupakistan/photos/?tab=album&album_id=115687338467469
[13:53] <mustu> I was in LHR
[13:53] <mustu> Haroon and Nouman were in KHI
[13:54] <barlas> mustu: Was? Where are you now?
[13:54] <mustu> later Babar Zahoor another friend of mine did joined the wave and in next release we organized the release party in 3 cities at same time ...https://www.facebook.com/ubuntupakistan/photos/a.114642205238649.7220.112885985414271/114643625238507/?type=3&theater
[13:54] <Researcher> nice even i appreciate
[13:54] <Researcher> event*
[13:54] <Researcher> yeah babar bhai is real active .. i am in contact with babar zahoor
[13:54] <mustu> i remeber the whole night i spent in GIMP to designthe party poster
[13:56] <Researcher> babar zahoor bhai already running a chapter of pakistan open source foundation
[13:56] <Researcher> but it is not a non profit organization
[13:56] <mustu> we printed tees for 14.10 release.. tht was a huge loss :p
[13:56] <Researcher> lol
[13:56] <Researcher> :)
[13:57] <mustu> Babar is a close friend of mine
[13:57] <mustu> it's me at 10.14 party https://www.facebook.com/ubuntupakistan/photos/a.181757988527070.32351.112885985414271/181758018527067/?type=3&theater
[13:58] <Kilos> ok so i need to find out how to takcontrol of  mailing list Researcher mustu
[13:58] <mustu> however that was fun ... but there weren't enough shoulders to continue the wave
[13:58] <Researcher> wb pavlushka
[13:58] <Researcher> mustu i like the t-shirts
[13:58] <mustu> I did played my best but then I couldn't and no one came forward to continue the wave
[13:59] <mustu> Haroon got married.. went to KSA
[13:59] <pavlushka> Researcher: thanks, :)
[13:59] <mustu> Noumaan is also occupied with his family n job
[13:59] <Kilos> interesting knowing these facts
[13:59] <mustu> but the hurdles are 2
[13:59] <Researcher> i am also married now and i am also not in pakistan .. but we should not left in the middle ..
[13:59] <Kilos> see how one person can destroy a movement
[14:00] <Researcher> Kilos : he is a bure business mind person
[14:00] <Researcher> *pure
[14:00] <Researcher> and he infact used the ubuntu to increase his bank balance
[14:00] <mustu> 1 is the BS mindset of Paki people like Fuaad and some other I can't name .. there is a strong desire of getting famous and takign credit in desi guys... they don't justify the word community
[14:00] <Researcher> mustu : please sorry to say .. dont tell Paki people like ....
[14:00] <Kilos> ahoneybun can you scroll back today and see what the issues are/were here
[14:01] <mustu> The Open Source Foundation was initiated way back ...
[14:01] <Researcher> i am paki and you are paki too, no one is complete .. we all have some lackings .. but that is not the mistake of our country or our nationality
[14:02] <Researcher> black sheeps are very where .. so next time .. exclue the term paki when you are calling Fuaad
[14:02] <Researcher> yes i agree you
[14:02] <Researcher> BS mindset people like Fuad ruined the whole show
[14:02] <mustu> I travelled to ISB on my pocket expense to layout the details of open source foudnation :p ... but since it's inauguration I have intentionally left it ....
[14:03] <mustu> POSF was the name we decided at that time..
[14:03] <mustu> if you are in contact with Babar you can ask him about me ..
[14:03] <mustu> Mustafa Qasim is my real name
[14:04] <mustu> I'm on facebook https://www.facebook.com/Evgenia.Osip
[14:04] <Researcher> cool let me add you
[14:04] <Researcher> request sent
[14:04] <mustu> are you zeeshan?
[14:04] <Researcher> well i really appreciate your efforts
[14:04] <Researcher> yes i am Zeeshan
[14:06] <mustu> I left OSFP coz it's all stunts now... PR stunts .. I haven't said these words to babar in person :p
[14:06] <mustu> he is a close friend but I have zero tolerance for BS
[14:06] <mustu> I know BS when I see one
[14:07] <Researcher> i understand
[14:07] <mustu> it's less cruel but identical to what Fuaad was driving..
[14:07] <Researcher> well lets unite together .. and bring ONE WORLD concept here
[14:07] <Researcher> regardless to differences .. lets play a vital role
[14:08] <mustu> whenever you see one or few people who drive a community you will see those who love publicity stunts.. they can't hide.. they love the community coz it does give them fame
[14:08] <Researcher> well i have a different prospective
[14:08] <Researcher> and i think little different .. as i am supporting for no fame
[14:08] <mustu> I give zero fucks to myself or anyone when we are in a "Community" ... we should put the cause above then our personalities
[14:08] <Researcher> if you seen my posts on ubuntu loco team facebook page .. i am offering projects support. hosting, servers for free
[14:09] <Researcher> but never for any publicity
[14:09] <Researcher> i never ever even told my webhosting company name to tried to promote my personnel ventures ..
[14:11] <mustu> fb call?
[14:11] <Researcher> i am willing to support any guy any one  from any country of this world, who have an interested project but cannot launch due to insufficient funds ... but only one condition, the server os will be ubuntu
[14:11] <Researcher> :)
[14:11] <Researcher> mustu yaar woh fb call block hay
[14:12] <Researcher> call me on whatsapp
[14:12] <Researcher> +968 98758617
[14:12] <Researcher> and give me your number
[14:12] <Researcher> add me on whatsapp
[14:13] <mustu> callin you
[14:15] <Researcher> one minute bro
[14:15] <Researcher> whatsapp is also block here
[14:15] <Researcher> but vpn do the trick
[14:15] <Researcher> :D
[14:20] <Researcher> ok guys i have to leave for now
[14:20] <Researcher> will join u back from home
[14:20] <Researcher> :)
[14:20] <Researcher> brb
[14:20] <Researcher> mustu : i am calling that USA number is mine
[14:20] <Researcher> +1 903 4846472 is mine
[14:22] <Researcher> brb guys
[15:43] <mustu> Researcher m bck
[15:48] <ahoneybun> Kilos: what am I looking for?
[16:22] <ChiefJustice> hi Researcher
[16:22] <ChiefJustice> hi all
[16:45] <lubmil> !pdk
[16:45] <ChanSeba> lubmil: smacznej kawy! :)
[17:00] <Kilos> oh sorry ahoneybun i was asleep
[17:00] <Kilos> the reason why this loco crashed
[17:00] <Kilos> hi mustu Researcher
[17:01] <ahoneybun> which is?
[17:01] <Kilos> the admin guy made the loco his own private kingdom
[17:02] <ahoneybun> he was doing things he should not have?
[17:02] <Kilos> and no one else was allowed to get ahed
[17:02]  * ahoneybun is trying to fix ubiquity
[17:02] <Kilos> good luck
[17:02] <ahoneybun> no second in command?
[17:02] <ahoneybun> it a few PEP8 erros
[17:02] <ahoneybun> *errors
[17:02] <Kilos> no and also not handing over the reigns when becoming too busy
[17:03] <ahoneybun> oh just left
[17:03] <Kilos> yes and peeps werent approved in list or anything
[17:04] <Kilos> even refused to discuss anything face to face
[17:04] <ahoneybun> is there any chain of command now?
[17:04] <Kilos> in this channel they are all working together
[17:04] <ahoneybun> very good
[17:04] <Kilos> we need to find out how to get admin on the mailing list
[17:04] <ahoneybun> what is the list?
[17:05] <Kilos> lemme ask pavel
[17:05] <Kilos> hehe
[17:05] <ahoneybun> the name
[17:05] <Kilos> aw hes gone
[17:06] <ahoneybun> is it ubuntu.com  or launchpad?
[17:06] <Kilos> .com
[17:06] <ahoneybun> either one the LoCo should have access
[17:06] <ahoneybun> LoCo Council
[17:06] <Kilos> cool ill ask for admin there for Researcher and mustu if he is interested
[17:07] <ahoneybun> I pinged mhall119 in #ubuntu-locoteams
[17:07] <Kilos> i saw ty
[17:08]  * ahoneybun waits for his build to finish
[17:11] <mustu> I'm afraid to be admin .... wuld prefer if Researcher can volunteer
[17:11] <Kilos> he will but i need a backup man
[17:12] <Kilos> and dont be afraid i will be here and ahoneybun
[17:12] <mustu> i'm too much occupied and wouldn't want to harm the community for just being the admin
[17:12] <mustu> sure... I can be the backup
[17:12] <ahoneybun> mustu: don't worry, it will be good
[17:13] <Kilos> ty mustu
[17:13] <Kilos> i cant be admin all over
[17:13] <Kilos> hehe
[17:13] <mustu> second I believe we should place filters and procedures so that not a single person can "Own" a community project... only one who's actively working
[17:13] <Kilos> but ill be here if you guys need help and the LC and CC will back me up
[17:14] <Kilos> yes we wont make 1 owner but 2 admins
[17:14] <mustu> in a community work volunteers always come and go.. but the privileges and procedures should accommodate this dynamic behaviour
[17:15] <mustu> everone should have the chance to lead and no one should stick with any privilege
[17:15] <mustu> only then we can make a cause survive by putting it above than personalities
[17:15] <Kilos> correct
[17:15] <ahoneybun> the LC and CC have access at all times
[17:15] <ahoneybun> but we need some leaders
[17:16] <mustu> back in 2010 the LoCo only knew Fuaad and didn't entertained anyoen directly..
[17:16] <ahoneybun> you all can change that
[17:16] <mustu> they used to refer bac to Fuaad and he wouldn't let anyone replace him
[17:16] <ahoneybun> by being more open
[17:18] <mustu> +1
[17:19] <Kilos> mustu yourself and researcher can guide the rest of the team
[17:19] <Kilos> and ive asked if you can have the power to hand over admins too
[17:21] <zaki> hello mustu
[17:22] <mustu> hi zaki
[17:24] <mustu> We've built a small community over facebook. I will transfer the ownsership to anyone who can lead.
[17:25] <Kilos> mustu you can invite them all here as well. one cant become an ubuntu member from facebook
[17:26] <mustu> Kilos it's just a fan page for leveraging facebook to stay in touch with local members
[17:26] <Kilos> cool
[17:26] <Kilos> invite them here as well
[17:27] <mustu> just a mean of reaching out to community esp. those who aren't regular on IRC or don't user IRC at all
[17:27] <Kilos> keep you fb group going as well then if they like fb
[17:27] <mustu> sure will do
[17:28] <Kilos> also let them know they can apply for official ubuntu membership and get a certificate signed by mark
[17:29] <mustu> Let's sort it first among us before sharing in public.. maybe we can polish it better for public
[17:29] <Kilos> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/NewMember
[17:30] <Kilos> cool its your channel here now, you guys decide
[17:30] <Kilos> but even you should have been able to apply years ago
[17:31] <mustu> We couldn't use any official link in past due to restriction from Fuaad Bajwa. Peopel have almost forgot about the official membership. Let's sort out the details first and then we will promote the membership properly by organizing at least a Webinar or Video Chat over Google Hangout
[17:31] <Kilos> cool
[17:32] <Kilos> ubuntu is for everyone, not for creating private kingdoms
[17:32] <mustu> +1
[17:34] <mustu> Kilos are you part of LoCo board?
[17:35] <Kilos> nope mustu membership board
[17:35] <Kilos> but we all work together
[18:13] <Muhammad_Saad> Holy shit! That's a lot of people. Last time I checked there would be 2 zombies and a bot.
[18:14] <Kilos> lol
[18:14] <Kilos> hi Muhammad_Saad
[18:14] <Muhammad_Saad> hi
[18:14] <mustu> Muhammad_Saad I've only spoken to few but I've been told that all are real people :)
[18:15] <Muhammad_Saad> Sounds too good to be true. XD
[18:15] <mustu> Muhammad_Saad these cool guys aims to revive the Ubuntu Pakistan community....
[18:16] <mustu> it would be fun to have guys like you here
[18:16] <Muhammad_Saad> Fun to have guys like me? What do you think I am, a clown? :|
[18:16] <Kilos> hahaha
[18:17] <mustu> well I would go with your interpretation .. one knows himself beter
[18:17] <mustu> :p
[18:17] <mustu> Kilos Muhammad_Saad has been among the top localization expert
[18:18] <Muhammad_Saad> Hmm... I don't mind being called an expert. I'll hang around. :p
[18:19] <Kilos> lol
[18:19] <mustu> whatever it takes man ;)
[18:20] <mustu> Muhammad_Saad don't you've a short nick?
[18:20] <Muhammad_Saad> Hmm.. I should switch.
[18:20] <Muhammad_Saad> :D
[18:20] <Kilos> rofl
[18:21] <mustu> much better
[18:21] <Kilos> mustu type the first 3 letters then hit tab, it will complete the nick for you
[18:21] <mustu> M_Saad you were heavily involved in translation right?
[18:22] <M_Saad> I used to be. These days I am busy with physics work.
[18:22] <mustu> Kilos yep even a single char works if it's unique... but still it was too long
[18:22] <mustu> M_Saad no issue.. but I believe you can at least mentor or inspire new members
[18:23] <Kilos> haha
[18:23] <mustu> M_Saad you've at least spent more time with the official team than me...
[18:23] <M_Saad> Yes I can. If they are willing to sacrifice their souls. :p
[18:25] <M_Saad> I hope that whoever they are, they won't compromise on quality like a lot of folks I have seen so far.
[18:26] <Kilos> you can help guide them the right way
[18:26] <barlas> M_Saad: Hey
[18:26] <M_Saad> Ho
[18:26] <barlas> M_Saad: Are you the M_Saad I know?
[18:26] <M_Saad> You here too?
[18:26] <barlas> Yeah
[18:26] <M_Saad> Or a better question will be
[18:26] <M_Saad> You still alive, mate?
[18:26] <barlas> Heh
[18:29] <M_Saad> So how many here are those who actually are from PK?
[18:29] <barlas> I am only sure about ChanServ and Kilos
[18:29] <mustu> no idea
[18:31] <mustu> i was invited by zaki
[18:32] <mustu> but it seems he himself isn't from PK
[18:35] <barlas> Researcher seems to be the one trying to organize everything
[18:36] <Kilos> yes
[18:37] <pavlushka> mustu: he is from my country, :)
[18:37] <pavlushka> zaki
[18:37] <M_Saad> I wonder what kind of Researcher is he.
[18:37] <pavlushka> M_Saad: me too, :P
[18:37] <barlas> He research people, stalking, in other words :P
[18:37] <mustu> at least not what kind of physics researcher you are
[18:38] <mustu> pavlushka where u from?
[18:38] <pavlushka> mustu: From Bangladesh, :)
[18:38] <mustu> pavlushka good :)
[18:39] <mustu> M_Saad r u woking on problems at earth or in space these days?
[18:39] <pavlushka> and I must say, I am really impressed zaki , :)
[18:39] <pavlushka> lol @ mustu
[18:39] <M_Saad> mustu, too abstract to pin down a specific place. XD
[18:39] <mustu> pavlushka impressed ?
[18:40] <mustu> M_Saad I knew
[18:40] <pavlushka> mustu: sorry, I meant to say "I am really impressed, zaki"
[18:40] <M_Saad> :D
[18:41] <M_Saad> mustu, these days I am trying to make sense of markov chain monte carlo methods for statistical physics simulations. :p
[18:41] <mustu> pavlushka why impressed?
[18:42]  * mustu not gonna google the weirdo method 
[18:43] <M_Saad> You coward!
[18:43] <pavlushka> mustu: because zaki found you and you are here already, :)
[18:43] <M_Saad> pavlushka, oh he's just got too much free time on his hands. XD
[18:44] <pavlushka> I was trying to bring in a guy named osama in this channel, but failed, but I guess zaki is lucky, :)
[18:45] <pavlushka> I have his email address, twitter id, but no response, he is a CSE student I guess in pk.
[18:47] <zaki> pavlushka: :)
[18:47] <zaki> hello M_Saad mustu Researcher
[18:47] <mustu> hey zaki
[18:47] <M_Saad> Oh. Hello there.
[18:48] <zaki> how are you all, happy to see guys here. :)
[18:49] <M_Saad> I am miserable, as usual. :|
[18:53]  * M_Saad is giving a dark aura of misery and despair.
[18:54] <Kilos> why M_Saad
[18:54] <Kilos> smile a while
[18:54] <M_Saad> XD
[18:54] <Kilos> things are happening
[18:54] <M_Saad> You took that seriously? :-/
[18:54] <Kilos> i thought you were sad yes
[18:55] <M_Saad> Oh. Note to self: Don't confuse new people.
[18:55] <Kilos> lol
[18:55] <Kilos> im not new, ive been here about 5 months i think
[18:55] <Kilos> trying to get your loco active again
[18:57] <M_Saad> Cool! :)
[18:57] <Kilos> we need to get Researcher to be here at night as well
[18:58] <Kilos> seems married life keeps him busy
[18:58]  * M_Saad is getting high on nostalgia from the old days of spending time on irc.
[18:59] <Kilos> great
[18:59] <M_Saad> :D
[18:59] <Kilos> have some coffee
[18:59] <Kilos> QA coffee on
[18:59]  * QA flips the salt-timer
[18:59] <Kilos> QA large
[18:59] <QA> In a beer mug just for you Kilos
[19:00] <M_Saad> :D
[19:00] <zaki> QA: coffee please
[19:00] <QA> zaki: Yessir
[19:01] <Kilos> this is wonderful, from 3 nicks to 40 in 5 months
[19:01] <Kilos> zaki you guys are lagging
[19:02] <barlas> M_Saad: You are too young to have nostalgia :P
[19:03] <QA> Coffee's ready for Kilos and zaki!
[19:03] <Kilos> QA ty
[19:03] <QA> Only a pleasure Kilos
[19:03] <zaki> QA: ty
[19:03] <QA> Only a pleasure zaki
[19:04] <M_Saad> barlas: I am an old soul in a young body :p
[19:04] <Kilos> haha im the opposite
[19:20] <xeruspk> Hello all
[19:21] <Kilos> hi xeruspk
[19:21] <Kilos> mustu this is great
[19:21] <zaki> hello xeruspk
[19:23] <mustu> hey xeruspk
[19:24] <mustu> Kilos (y)
[19:24] <xeruspk> Just wanted to find out how I can help Ubuntu-pk community
[19:24] <mustu> xeruspk well dozen of ways...
[19:25] <RajRajRaj> mustu:
[19:25] <Kilos> great xeruspk you can start by hanging out here and helping Researcher and mustu plan ahead
[19:25] <mustu> xeruspk are you located in PK?
[19:25] <RajRajRaj> mustu:
[19:25] <mustu> RajRajRaj ?
[19:25] <RajRajRaj> R u from rhel
[19:25] <RajRajRaj> mustu: did i meet u in rhel
[19:25] <RajRajRaj> Kilos:
[19:25] <RajRajRaj> Hi
[19:25] <mustu> what do u mean by rhel?
[19:25] <RajRajRaj> mustu: nvm
[19:26] <mustu> RajRajRaj o_O didn't got tht
[19:27] <xeruspk> Yes I'm in PK
[19:28] <mustu> xeruspk you can execute activities and support online
[19:28] <pavlushka> so far I know that rhel means RedHat Enterprise Linux, :p
[19:29] <mustu> activities in ur local area... I personally believe that in-person activities are more fruitful then any online campaign...
[19:29] <RajRajRaj> mustu: asl
[19:29] <mustu> RajRajRaj lol... what's this Dalnet #Teen ?
[19:30] <RajRajRaj> mustu: this is phreenote
[19:30] <RajRajRaj> So asl please
[19:30] <RajRajRaj> :p
[19:31] <pavlushka> Hello RajRajRaj !
[19:31] <mustu> RajRajRaj have we met before?
[19:31] <RajRajRaj> pavlushka: hey pallavi :
[19:31] <RajRajRaj> :D
[19:31] <RajRajRaj> And anushka
[19:31] <RajRajRaj> mustu: yeah i think so
[19:32] <mustu> RajRajRaj did you wanted to say in any RHEL event or class?
[19:33] <RajRajRaj> mustu: ?
[19:33] <RajRajRaj> I d k
[19:33] <mustu> RajRajRaj can you please speak out clearly ?
[19:33] <mustu> RajRajRaj I reside in LHR
[19:35] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[19:35] <mustu> Kilos gnite
[19:55] <mustu> tiop[[