[00:21] <hellslinger> anyone know where I can download the ota-12 image? I can't find it anywhere
[01:36] <ogra_> hellslinger, http://system-image.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/stable/ has the metadata for the single bits (and the links to the files in the pool)
[08:49] <linmob> Hello, I am using a Nexus 4 (mako) on rc.proposed and managed to setup Libertine. Unfortunately, vivid is quite old (and obsolete), and some packages (e.g. the latest chromium-browser) are outdated (chromium-browser just segfaults). Is there any way to install a chroot that is on a newer or alternatively still supported version (trusty) of Ubuntu? Could I fix this by transitioning to another channel of Ubuntu Phone?
[09:32] <kaisoz> hi there!
[09:34] <mimecar> hi kaisoz
[10:11] <kaisoz> hey mimecar! didn't see your greetings :D
[13:38] <jgdx> mterry, hey, got five min to talk about uss/time-date?
[13:38] <mterry> jgdx: sure do
[13:38] <jgdx> mterry, specifically, I can't seem to locate the London timezone by writing "London, United Kingdom" into the search field.
[13:39] <jgdx> mterry, you did some changes to that panel, but do you recall if any of those changed the search code?
[13:40] <mterry> jgdx: they did change the search code (allowed it to search in translated names).  But I don't think we've ever searched using the country names and such.  It's trying to find a CITY called London United Kingdom in your case
[13:40] <jgdx> (either directly or indirectly by e.g. changing the db of timezones, etc)
[13:40] <mterry> jgdx: and the search isn't super smart, it just checks the beginning of the city for example, not sub phrasses
[13:41] <mterry> jgdx: I also updated the db of timezones too, when I made my other changes, yes
[13:41] <mterry> jgdx: but I don't think your search phrase would have ever worked
[13:41] <mterry> jgdx: it would be nice if it did.  It's a sensible search phrase
[13:42] <jgdx> mterry, well, we had a test using that exact phrase, but it's uncertain for how long it has failed, but now it does.
[13:42] <mterry> jgdx: ah interesting....
[13:42] <mterry> jgdx: that does surprise me.  Then I bet I probably did screw something up
[13:43] <jgdx> mterry, I guess the old search “engine” was a bit too coupled with the data
[13:45] <mterry> jgdx: well I don't *think* we ever searched over country names...  So I'm guessing that we would accept matches on just the first word?
[13:45] <mterry> jgdx: I can look into it.  That's the whole test, just typing that in?
[13:46] <jgdx> mterry, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23061630/ :)
[13:46] <jgdx> mterry, hey, great, thanks
[13:52] <mterry> jgdx: I *could* imagine a race there.  Like partial results come in from an earlier string and is still there before updating with no results once search_kb_type returns...  But I'll try and see what the old code did
[13:52] <mterry> jgdx: it would really help if you knew the last time that test worked
[13:53] <mterry> jgdx: also this isn't super urgent, I assume?
[13:55] <jgdx> mterry, we can't seem to find any bug reports for this, and I'm able to set all timezones I want using cities, so not 100% sure how urgent.
[13:55] <jgdx> mterry, but we want to fix the test asap
[13:57] <mani> HELLO
[13:57] <Guest64811> hello
[13:58] <Guest64811> i m using ubuntu phone
[13:58] <jgdx> Guest64811, how's it going?
[13:58] <Guest64811> igood
[13:58] <Guest64811> thANK YOU
[13:58] <Guest64811> I WANT TO INSTALL WHATS APP IN MY PHONE
[13:59] <Guest64811> DOES IT POSIBLE
[13:59] <jgdx> Guest64811, I don't think you can yet, Whats App hasn't created an app for uphone.
[14:00] <Guest64811> IS THERE ANY WAY TO INSTALL ANDROID APPS IN UPHONE
[14:01] <davmor2> Guest64811: no what's app on Ubuntu Phone, and no way to install android app on Ubuntu
[14:01] <Guest64811> http://www.whatsappfor.org/software/whatsapp-ubuntu-phone-touch/
[14:02] <Guest64811> DOES IT WORK
[14:02] <Guest64811> ??/
[14:02] <k1l_> Guest64811: that is not an official app
[14:03] <Guest64811> THIS IS THE WAY TO INSTALL WHATS APP IN
[14:03] <OerHeks> caps!
[14:09] <kaisoz> dpkg -L *
[14:14] <javier4_> make complains about the lack of member h_addr in struct hostent, but in my development/ndk/sources/android/libportable/common/include/netdb_portable.h ther's this line
[14:15] <javier4_> #define h_addr  h_addr_list[0]  /* address, for backward compatibility */
[14:15] <javier4_> inside hostent definition. What's the problem?
[14:20] <kaisoz> I'm planning about contributing to Ubuntu touch and I'm having a look at the band-aids project in launchpad
[14:21] <kaisoz> I'm having a look at this issue, just to have some idea
[14:21] <kaisoz> https://bugs.launchpad.net/band-aids-uphone/+bug/1234336
[14:22] <kaisoz> wow, that was fast :D
[14:22] <kaisoz> so, how would be the proper way to start working on this issue for example? should I contact Alejandro J. Cura to talk about it? I've been having a look at the unity-scope-click as well
[14:22] <dobey> Guest64811: there is a webapp for the whatsapp web site interface in the store i think, however you must have a separate device with android/ios running the official app to log in with, and you will not be able to receive push notifications or rely on other advanced features, from it
[14:24] <jgdx> kaisoz, yeah, alecu is the person to talk to there. And awesome that you wan't to contribute.
[14:24] <jgdx> want*
[14:25] <kaisoz> thank you :)
[14:25] <jgdx> kaisoz, checking out the unity-scope-click code, building and running it, then poking at it is probably the next best step :)
[14:27] <kaisoz> I currently have a full time job as a (embedded) software developer so I won't be able to contribute as often as I would like to :)
[14:27] <kaisoz> anyway I'll do my best. I've been following the project and now I have a Aquaris E5 so I can start playing :)
[14:30] <kaisoz> An I think the band-aids project is an excellent idea to get people involved easily
[14:31] <jgdx> kaisoz, cool, and yeah it is! :) If you're interested in app development, there's also #ubuntu-app-devel
[14:32] <jgdx> where you can discuss scope development as well
[14:33] <kaisoz> I'm really more interested about helping with the system itself, although I think this kind of bugs are the best way to get the feeling about it
[14:33] <kaisoz> maybe there's a better way, I don't know
[14:36] <kaisoz> I've only contributed to the kernel with a couple of patches to the drivers subsystem, but you work in different way there (as far as I know)
[14:46] <dobey> kaisoz: i'm not sure we want to fix that search queries "issue" exactly
[14:47] <kaisoz> ahh
[14:47] <dobey> hmm i didn't realize someone added it to band-aids
[14:47] <kaisoz> so it's a good thing that I asked before :D
[14:48] <kaisoz> I just went to the band aids project and It's already ordered by importance
[14:57] <kaisoz> so, all system related bugs are gathered in the canonical devices system image launchpad project right?
[14:57] <kaisoz> from there they are triaged to the respective projects
[14:58] <dobey> kaisoz: i explained that to you the other day.
[14:58] <dobey> but i also don't know what you are expecting is "system related" either
[15:00] <kaisoz> yeah, it's true, I didn't remember sorry
[15:03] <kaisoz> which systems related I mean all not related to apps or scopes
[15:04] <kaisoz> maybe it's not the proper word
[15:04] <kaisoz> :S
[15:08] <dobey> kaisoz: some apps and scopes are a core part of the system. c-d-s-i project has bugs linked which affect all levels of packages included in the system images
[15:09] <kaisoz> aha, well that's perfectly clear now, thanks :)
[15:12] <kaisoz> got to go, see you later. And many thanks for the info! :D
[15:44] <kaisoz> hi again
[17:07] <gb_mks> hi, I subscribe to this list: ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net and I´m sending a mail to it but doesn´t arrive or show in the mail list archive. can someone give me advice
[17:10] <dobey> gb_mks: if it was held for moderation you would have received an e-mail about it. otherwise, appearing in the archive on the web site is not instantaneous.
[17:11] <dobey> gb_mks: is your mail about android and forensiscs tool?
[17:12] <gb_mks> dobey: thanks, I sent a mail (and resend it twice). the first one was yesterday. It´s about a bug related with ubuntu-sdk in ubuntu 14.04
[17:13] <gb_mks> I didn´t received an email about moderation
[17:17] <gb_mks> I copy paste it here https://titanpad.com/bug138569
[17:18] <dobey> oh, i don't know why your mail wouldn't have gone through
[17:19] <dobey> mhall119: ^^ can you help gb_mks about why his mail didn't make it to the phone list?
[17:19] <gb_mks> yes it´s quite strange,.... I might have made a mistake
[17:20] <gb_mks> I sent it to ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net, is that correct?
[17:20] <dobey> yes
[17:21] <gb_mks> ummm strange .. I sent one, nothing happened, then subscribe to the list, sent it again, and nothing happened twice :$
[17:22] <mimecar> Are you using the same email address for launchpad
[17:22] <mimecar> and for the mail client?
[17:23] <gb_mks> that might be :D
[17:23] <gb_mks> gracias mimecar!
[17:49] <mhall119> gb_mks: dobey: checking on it now
[17:50] <gb_mks> thanks :)
[17:50] <mhall119> gb_mks: what was the subject line of your email?
[17:54] <mhall119> dobey: gb_mks: I'm not an admin there, you might need pmcgowan to help
[17:55] <gb_mks> I just resend it again and it work correctly.
[17:56] <gb_mks> thanks for the help :)
[17:56] <pmcgowan> gb_mks, it was sent ok but my guess is the subject hit everyones bug filter
[17:56] <pmcgowan> I know it hit mine
[17:57] <pmcgowan> gb_mks, actualy the one you just sent arrived
[17:58] <gb_mks> yes, take a look to it because it looks everyone using ubuntu 14.04 might be affected and unable to use ubuntu-sdk correctly
[18:05] <dobey> mhall119: oh sorry, thought you were an admin for it
[18:05] <mhall119> so did I, but nope :)
[18:06] <pmcgowan> mhall119, that can be fixed
[18:12]  * mhall119 accidentally volunteered for more responsibility :/
[18:14] <tsimonq2> mhall119: *way* too easy to do ;)
[20:02] <kvmmm> if I want to install a new DE, should I just use the Ubuntu Software Center?
[20:05] <PaulfraOSAA> Anybody got a project to compile/run on (K)ubuntu 16.04?
[20:13] <dobey> ?
[20:14] <dobey> kvmmm: install on a phone? or on a PC? the latter you should ask in #ubuntu but basically yes
[20:14] <kvmmm> yes, it was a mistake. Sorry
[20:15] <dobey> PaulfraOSAA: what do you mean?
[20:24] <PaulfraOSAA> dobey: After actually getting a couple of basic examples running in kubuntu 14.10 I upgraded to 16.04 and now i get problems with running  even the stariting example
[20:26] <dobey> PaulfraOSAA: 14.10? yikes. i have a pure qml app i'm working on and it runs ok under unity7 on 16.04
[20:27] <dobey> PaulfraOSAA: if you build a binary targetted for the 15.04 phone frameworks that uses c++ in the SDK, you probably won't be able to run that binary on a 16.04 PC, because it will be binary compatible
[20:27] <dobey> err
[20:27] <PaulfraOSAA> I ran LTS and got thoroughly tired of cmake 2.8 and the like. But it worked then, it doesn't now
[20:27] <dobey> because it will NOT be binary compatible
[20:27] <dobey> 14.10 wasn't LTS, 14.04 was
[20:27] <PaulfraOSAA> Oh, so then it was 14.04
[20:30] <dobey> but anyway, if you're compiling in the sdk with a kit with a 15.04 framework target, but for x86, you'll have to run that binary in a chroot/container to run it on 16.04.
[20:34] <PaulfraOSAA> I now get E: Failed to change to directory ‘/home/expert/programmering/UbuntuTouch/build-myFirstCmakeTouch-UbuntuSDK_for_armhf_GCC_ubuntu_sdk_15_04_vivid-Default’: No such file or directory
[20:34] <PaulfraOSAA> I: The directory does not exist inside the chroot.  Use the --directory option to run the command in a different directory.
[20:35] <PaulfraOSAA> Well the framework update has never worked for me
[20:36] <dobey> oh hmm, that looks like a problem with the sdk itself. i'd say file a bug against the ubuntu-sdk package
[20:37] <dobey> also, #ubuntu-app-devel might be a better channel for app dev specific questions
[20:47] <PaulfraOSAA> dobey: uhh, thanks for that heads up, I'll try that
[20:48] <PaulfraOSAA> At least now Qt Creator works on my tablet, so I'll be using it for that :)
[20:49] <dobey> cool
[21:42] <taiebot> Hello hello. Is there a command line to check the status of the brightness sensor ?
[23:58] <mariogrip> does anyone know what format the recovery ramdisk on arale (mx4) is?