[00:10] <arts> morning...
[05:21] <paddatrapper> Morning everyone 
[06:01] <Kilos> morning inetpro superfly andrewlsd sicelo drussell and other lurkers
[06:08] <MaNI> any tshwane people here?
[06:10] <Kilos> hi MaNI im here and inetpro and chesedo
[06:10] <Kilos> and theblazehen i think
[06:12] <MaNI> have you received your electricity accounts this month?
[06:13] <Kilos> we get ours when sis goes to post office
[06:13] <Kilos> so most likely by the weekend
[06:13] <Kilos> why?
[06:14] <dlPhreak> Morning
[06:14] <magespawn> good morning
[06:14] <dlPhreak> magespawn, Kilos, MaNI, etc, how are you all doing?
[06:15] <Kilos> hi dlPhreak magespawn 
[06:17] <MaNI> I have a property in centurion that is sitting in an estate that needs to be wound up, the executor has not sent me the rates this month to sort out with the tennants, I'm just trying to figure out if there is some delay in lights and rates being sent out, or if the executor is being lazy/incompetent
[06:20] <Kilos> oh my
[06:20] <Kilos> theblazehen should know if they have been sent out
[06:20] <Kilos> they are in town i think
[06:20] <Kilos> we need to go to post office
[06:35] <dlPhreak> I found this fun little commnand on commandlinefu.com which generates a random password from a dictionary:
[06:35] <dlPhreak> printf '%s-%s-%s-%s\n' $(grep -v "[A-Z]\|'" /usr/share/dict/american-english | shuf -n 4)
[06:35] <dlPhreak> and it gave me this:
[06:35] <dlPhreak> clitorises-yelped-turpitude-loners
[06:35] <Kilos> sjoe
[06:37] <dlPhreak> Lol Ikr
[06:37] <dlPhreak> https://xkcd.com/936/
[06:43] <Kilos> i go start doing chores
[06:43] <Kilos> wbb
[06:49] <theblazehen> hey all
[06:50] <theblazehen> MaNI: I don't handle the utilities myself
[06:50] <theblazehen> dlPhreak: Is it sad I recognise xkcd's by the numbers?
[06:51] <theblazehen> http://xkcd.com/705/ and http://xkcd.com/208/ <- me irl
[06:51] <theblazehen> Or I like to think so
[06:53] <theblazehen> http://xkcdsw.com/1845 I guess..
[06:53] <theblazehen> http://xkcd.com/462/
[06:54] <theblazehen> http://xkcd.com/487/ http://xkcdsw.com/1115 https://xkcd.com/660/ 
[06:54] <theblazehen> https://xkcd.com/349/ too true
[06:54] <theblazehen> Well. Sorry about the xkcd spam..
[06:54] <dlPhreak> haha nah it's brilliant
[06:56] <dlPhreak> I love xkcd
[06:56] <theblazehen> I've seen literally all of them
[06:56] <theblazehen> Multiple times
[06:57]  * theblazehen wonders how well the firefox sqlite database is done
[06:58] <theblazehen> I have a feeling that right clicking on "History older then 6 months" and choosing "Open all in tabs" is a bad idea
[06:59] <dlPhreak> Obviously you don't clear your browsing history often enough.
[07:00] <theblazehen> dlPhreak: That's what ^P is for
[07:01] <theblazehen> I suppose because of the way the codes work, I have to clarify that it's ctrl shit p
[07:02] <theblazehen> Because terminal can't see difference between capital and non capital if ctrl is held
[07:02] <theblazehen> iirc
[07:04] <dlPhreak> I'm generally unconcerned about my browsing history because it's not like anyone is going to use my computer soon.
[07:04] <dlPhreak> That is unless they know how to use AwesomeDE
[07:05] <dlPhreak> And how to type in Dvorak
[07:11] <theblazehen> dlPhreak: Tried colemak?
[07:11] <theblazehen> You mean AwesomeWM?
[07:12] <theblazehen> Or did someone add more stuff to it
[07:12] <nsnzero> morning all
[07:13] <theblazehen> hey nsnzero
[07:13] <dlPhreak> nsnzero: hi
[07:13] <nsnzero> if your startup time  is slow run " systemd-analyze blame " to find the culprit 
[07:14] <theblazehen> nsnzero: systemd-analyze critical-chain
[07:14] <theblazehen> or plot, then save to svg
[07:14] <dlPhreak> theblazehen: You are correct, AwesomeWM. I have not tried Colemak but I don't actually use Dvorak, I just have a shortcut key to switch between qwerty and dvorak so that I can screw with people typing on my pc..
[07:15] <theblazehen> dlPhreak: I'll admit, I also thought of doing that
[07:16] <nsnzero> theblazehen: your knowledge is a blessing to us all  
[07:16] <theblazehen> nsnzero: Haha, ty
[07:43] <theblazehen> https://github.com/Seitanas/kvm-vdi/issues/38 sometimes I laugh so I don't cry. Sometimes I do both.
[07:43] <theblazehen> (Look at refereced commits)
[07:45] <theblazehen> I show him remote code execution. He escapes a character I used
[07:45] <theblazehen> I show him another. He escapes (Well, gets rid of) other characters I used
[07:45] <theblazehen> Ah well. Time for round 3
[07:49] <calhax> mawnin all'!
[07:52] <dlPhreak> howzit calhax 
[07:52] <calhax> just  another day in paradise... :P
[07:52] <theblazehen> hey calhax
[07:53] <theblazehen> I swear, I'm gonna tell him to stop making things worse
[07:59] <calhax> theblazehen, worse?
[07:59] <theblazehen> calhax: First security fix changed second order sql injection into direct sql injection
[08:00] <theblazehen> And I had to change my shell from straight socat to echo xxx | base64 -d | bash
[08:00] <theblazehen> Now gonna change to \` and later in the command ;doBadStuffCmd
[08:01] <theblazehen> Maybe I shouldn't say how publically until it's fixed
[08:03] <calhax> thats beyond me right now lol but it sounds masterful! 
[08:06] <theblazehen> It's too simple
[08:06] <theblazehen> So simple I'd feel guilty not fixing it
[08:06] <theblazehen> Because literally anyone would easily find it
[08:10] <Kilos> hi calhax 
[08:10] <calhax> hey Kilos 
[08:10] <Kilos> first time here?
[08:10] <Kilos> oh no
[08:11] <Kilos> calpy
[08:11] <Kilos> hehe
[08:11] <calhax> hahahaha, Kilos you killed me!
[08:11] <Kilos> hehe
[08:21] <calhax> how is BL on you newbook
[08:27] <calhax> sorry, messed up...
[08:28] <dlPhreak> OMFG. Twitter uses Vim-style keyboard shortcuts. Mind. Blown.
[08:29] <theblazehen> dlPhreak: try hjkl in youtube
[08:29] <theblazehen> And if you reddit, in RES
[08:31] <andrewlsd> MaNI: I'm Tshwane today (but not normally)
[08:31] <dlPhreak> I know about RES but for some reason I never knew about twitter shortcuts. Only found it out by habitually pressing j to go down.
[08:32] <theblazehen> dlPhreak: BTW, rtv for reddit if you want a terminal client
[08:32] <theblazehen> I like terminal apps. They never open new windows and break my tiling
[08:32] <theblazehen> And they can't try to make a "pretty"" ui
[08:33] <andrewlsd> theblazehen: +1
[08:33] <dlPhreak> Hahaha theblazehen you're so linux master race!
[08:33] <theblazehen> dlPhreak: haha ty
[08:35] <calhax> PHP is killing me
[08:35] <theblazehen> calhax: I agree
[08:35] <superfly> calhax: told you so
[08:36] <theblazehen> my hobby: https://github.com/search?q=mysql_escape_string+OR+addslashes&ref=searchresults&type=Code&utf8=%E2%9C%93
[08:40] <theblazehen> https://github.com/search?o=desc&q=%28mysql_escape_string+OR+addslashes%29+AND+%28%24_GET+or+%24_POST%29+language%3APHP+stars%3A%3E10+extension%3A.php+language%3APHP&ref=searchresults&s=indexed&type=Code&utf8=%E2%9C%93
[08:41] <calhax> I feel it depleting my soul... LOL
[08:42] <Kilos> wb calhax you must listen to the fly
[08:43] <Kilos> hii chesedo you here?
[08:43] <Kilos> did you read the message from maaz
[08:44] <calhax> yeah, its just so different, I learnt wrong the first time
[08:53] <chesedo> hi Kilos and all others
[08:53] <chesedo> Kilos:  is the comment on trello
[08:53] <Kilos> hi chesedo 
[08:54] <superfly> chesedo: no, on your merge proposal on Launchpad
[08:54] <Kilos> superfly where are the comments for the africa site please
[08:54] <Kilos> ty superfly 
[08:54] <chesedo> ok ty superfly
[08:55] <superfly> theblazehen: I can't even. Just looking at some of that PHP melts my brain.
[08:55]  * chesedo will check it... am swamped with studies atm
[08:55] <theblazehen> superfly: I know :(
[08:55] <theblazehen> superfly: did you see how after the developer fixed code twice, I *still* have RCE?
[09:06] <roabish> morning
[09:06] <roabish> guys, i need help, no not that kind
[09:07] <roabish> can anyone assist with custom dhcp option tags
[09:08] <roabish> anyone?
[09:11] <theblazehen> roabish: What do you need?
[09:11] <calhax> Kilos, theblazehen ^^
[09:13] <roabish> specify option tags 161 162 184 and 185
[09:13] <roabish> checked online there is no support
[09:14] <superfly> theblazehen: indeed. this is why you use a framework like CakePHP, Laravel, Symfony, Yii
[09:14] <roabish> let me explain, i have a wyse thin client 
[09:14] <superfly> theblazehen: I mean, if you HAVE to use a braindead language
[09:14] <Kilos> hi roabish welcome to ubuntu-za
[09:14] <theblazehen> superfly: Exactly :)
[09:15] <theblazehen> roabish: What server? ISC dhcpd?
[09:15] <roabish> yes
[09:16] <theblazehen> And can you apply other options?
[09:16] <roabish> option 161 server address
[09:16] <roabish> option 162 final path in ftp server
[09:17] <roabish> optio 184 and 185 is the ftp username and password
[09:18] <roabish> i specify the option tags in the config and the server runs without any errors but the thin client still doesnt pick up the right details
[09:18] <theblazehen> roabish: Sure. Can you run a `tcpdump -w /tmp/dhcptcpdump.pcap udp port 67` on the dhcp server
[09:18] <theblazehen> then try boot the thin client
[09:18] <theblazehen> then ^C the tcpdummp, copy it to your local machine and open it in wireshark
[09:19] <roabish> cool will try, please hold
[09:20] <theblazehen> sorry
[09:20] <theblazehen> `tcpdump -w /tmp/dhcptcpdump udp port 67 or 68
[09:20] <theblazehen> `
[09:23] <roabish> cool will try that and report back, setup everything on it's own network
[09:32] <theblazehen> Cool
[09:46] <roabish> thanks bud, getting closer, fixed some stuff in the dhcp config so it doesnt prompt for ftp username or password
[09:46] <roabish> now i just need to point it to the correct ftp path
[09:47] <Kilos> roabish you are welcome to hangout here with us 24/7 you know
[09:47] <Kilos> we arent just a support channel
[09:47] <Kilos> we are friends as well
[09:47] <Kilos> you getting too clever theblazehen 
[09:48] <theblazehen> Kilos: Haha, ty :)
[09:54] <roabish> sweet guys ,
[09:54] <roabish>  will do
[09:54] <Kilos> :D
[09:59] <roabish> Bazinga!!!!!
[09:59] <roabish> its alive!!!!
[09:59] <roabish> it works
[09:59] <Kilos> cool
[09:59] <Kilos> theblazehen bow
[09:59] <Kilos> well done guys
[10:00]  * theblazehen bows
[10:00] <theblazehen> roabish: What did you do?
[10:00] <roabish> rookie mistake
[10:00] <theblazehen> Or is it the classical "Attaching a debugger makes it work case"?
[10:00] <roabish> picked up from others guys config
[10:00] <theblazehen> Ah
[10:00] <theblazehen> I've done that
[10:00] <roabish> windows guys dont know that WYSE and Wyse are NOT THE SAME THING!!!!!
[10:01] <theblazehen> Ouch..
[10:01] <theblazehen> Okay, well, I've done that a *long* time ago then..
[10:01] <roabish> yip, should have started and finished the project myself
[10:01] <roabish> not let other guys work on it
[10:02] <theblazehen> Yeah. 
[10:03] <Kilos> well roabish at least you found us now so thats good
[10:03] <roabish> thanks theblazehen and guys, going to clean up the rest of the configs, only 50% working thus far
[10:03] <roabish> bye the end of the day everything should be 100%
[10:03] <theblazehen> roabish: Alright, cool
[10:04] <Kilos> good luck
[10:04] <Kilos> and come back
[10:04] <roabish> will do, thanks guys
[10:32] <calhax> theblazehen, superfly any comments? https://7chan.org/pr/src/LearnPythonTheHardWay2ndEdition.pdf
[10:33] <Kilos> i was told to try byteofpython
[10:33] <Kilos> iirc
[10:33] <theblazehen> calhax: +1
[10:35] <theblazehen> Also, clicking on link crashes quassel. lol
[10:35] <calhax> LOL
[10:37] <dlPhreak> Python the hard way is truely the way to go.
[10:37] <dlPhreak> Also dive into python.
[11:18] <thatgraemeguy> anyone else using mirror za.archive.ubuntu.com?
[11:18] <thatgraemeguy> and if so, please see if 'sudo apt update' is working ok for you?
[11:23] <ra1v3n> Za.archive.ubuntu.com occasionally goes down .... just switch to another for the download and then reset
[11:23] <thatgraemeguy> yeah trying that now
[11:23] <superfly> thatgraemeguy: I stay away from it
[11:24] <thatgraemeguy> this pc has been running with the default since 2010. guess i've just been lucky :-)
[11:28] <Kilos> Symmetria is supposed to be looking after that now isnt he, our archive was pointed to kenya
[11:28] <Kilos> or has it been changed back to here
[11:30] <thatgraemeguy> meh
[11:30] <thatgraemeguy> trying neology mirror
[11:30] <Kilos> thats what i use
[11:31] <thatgraemeguy> Maaz: seen cuttingedge
[11:31] <Maaz> thatgraemeguy: cuttingedge was last seen 1 year, 1 month, 22 days, 16 hours, 48 minutes and 16 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2015-06-30 11:42:46 PDT], and has been offline on freenode since 2016-02-01 08:12:56 PST
[11:31] <thatgraemeguy> mmm ok then, LOL
[11:31] <Kilos> lol it seems to work quite reliably
[11:31] <thatgraemeguy> ya I imagine so
[11:31] <Kilos> no idea why he disappeared
[11:32] <thatgraemeguy> cuttingedge is an old school internet nerd, I'm sure he has that thing well-oiled
[11:33] <thatgraemeguy> we were nerding out on IRC in the mid-late 90s before most people knew what a modem was
[11:34] <thatgraemeguy> trying not to get kicked from #5fm or k:lined by Gaspode
[11:34] <Kilos> whew
[11:36] <thatgraemeguy> http://www.zanet.org.za/
[11:36] <thatgraemeguy> well I guess that ended at some point
[11:49]  * ra1v3n twiddles thumbs
[11:50] <ra1v3n> I feel like I missed out on so much
[11:50] <ra1v3n> A good chunk of the 90's and 00's I was battling depression
[11:57] <theblazehen> ra1v3n: I feel you man. All good now?
[11:57] <ra1v3n> yeah all issues resolved
[11:57] <theblazehen> Glad to hear
[11:58] <theblazehen> Ah.. That sweet, sweet feeling of a build passing. When it's the first build you're running on a new project, with a freshly installed build system
[13:03] <magespawn> thatgraemeguy: that would also be about the time i first got online at home '93ish
[13:24] <MaNI> back when the internet was still good
[13:25] <thatgraemeguy> if 9600baud dial-up is your thing, then sure
[13:26] <MaNI> not the speed - the actual concept
[13:27] <thatgraemeguy> eh I'm not sure in which way the contemporary internet is worse than it was 20 years ago o_O
[13:27] <MaNI> spam was almost non existent, and messengers had random chat features on which you could actually find people on the other side of the world to have meaningful chats with
[13:27] <MaNI> now it's just spam, and people flashing their genitals
[13:27] <MaNI> to name a few examples
[13:27] <thatgraemeguy> that's hardly the technology's fault
[13:27] <thatgraemeguy> more down to how you use it
[13:27] <MaNI> who said it was the technologies fault
[13:28] <MaNI> not me
[13:28] <MaNI> more the level of person using the technology
[13:28] <thatgraemeguy> perhaps I don't speak for everyone, but I don't really see spam, nor people flashing their genitals
[13:28] <thatgraemeguy> maybe time to revisit your surfing habits :-p
[13:28] <MaNI> okay you are obviously just deliberately misunderstanding
[13:29] <MaNI> I'll stop wasting my time
[13:29] <thatgraemeguy> ...
[13:43] <ra1v3n> lol
[13:43] <ra1v3n> what was that dudes issue
[13:43] <magespawn> okay than
[13:43] <magespawn> then too
[13:43] <ra1v3n> haha
[13:43] <ra1v3n> spam .... get a spam filter
[13:44] <ra1v3n> adds .... get an add blocker
[13:44] <ra1v3n> and if you are routinely seeing other users genitals...... then you are browsing some dodgy sites
[14:16] <theblazehen> Yeah, it was better back then. As long as you're browsing on archive.org, and still have your convenient modern sites in other tabs, and popup blockers, and no email from then, and a fast connection, and ...
[14:16] <roabish> quit
[14:19] <MaNL> pfft
[14:22] <roabish> i r back, dropped the mirc for nettalk
[14:27] <MaNL> Ignore the technology. I'll give an example, back then you had e.g. ICQ, it had a 'random chat' feature, you could use it to randomly pair with and talk to people anywhere in the world. You could actually use it and talk to people, and have meaningful conversations, you would not even run into spam bots.
[14:28] <MaNL> That quite simply doesn't exist anymore, it's gone, the era of spam and instant gratification has taken that away, the closest thing you will find to that now is 'chatroulette' or similar, and I guarantee all you'll get on that is people flashing their genitals.
[14:29] <MaNL> I doubt Anyone who denies that there was a fundamental shift in this regard from then to now, was there at the start. 
[14:30] <MaNL> The internet had an 'innocence' of sorts back then - and it was awesome because of that - no amount of 'technology' or uber bandwidth will ever replace the loss of that for me - and I'm a tech enthusiast so I'm not saying that because I hate technology or something, it's just the simple truth.
[14:30] <MaNL> The early internet was a small closed off community that only certain people could access and because of that it was awesome.
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[14:30] <Kilos> lol
[14:38] <theblazehen> this reminded me of http://craphound.com/overclocked/Cory_Doctorow_-_Overclocked_-_When_Sysadmins_Ruled_the_Earth.html ... try listening / port scanning for people on tcp/1337?
[15:56] <magespawn> hey all, could i have the cory link again computer hung for some reason
[15:57] <magespawn> had to reboot
[16:04] <magespawn> no worries got in the history
[17:46] <calhax> Evening :)
[17:46] <Kilos> hi calhax and other lurkers
[17:46] <calhax> hahaha lurkers?
[17:47] <Kilos> yeah they lurk but say nothing
[17:48] <calhax> haha, so I have a true blue issue...
[17:48] <Kilos> lol
[17:48] <calhax> i install xubuntu and its awesome the only issue is the graphics is very choppy, any suggestions
[17:48] <Kilos> pavlushka ^^
[17:49] <pavlushka> calhax: hello!
[17:49] <pavlushka> Kilos: hello
[17:49] <Kilos> hi pavlushka 
[17:50] <Kilos> can you help calhax 
[17:50] <pavlushka> calhax: can you give us a screenshot first?
[17:56] <calhax> screen shot of?
[17:56] <calhax> sorry was afk
[17:56] <Kilos> your choppy screen
[17:56] <Kilos> np
[17:56] <calhax> its hard to show, its kind of like the driver isnt installed, i know its intel HD graphics 
[18:00] <Kilos> calhax how much ram have you got
[18:00] <calhax> 2GB
[18:02] <Kilos> hmm...
[18:03] <pavlushka> calhax: while i am checking on you , meanwhile you check this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk2-engines-murrine/+bug/1598316
[18:05] <calhax> doing it
[18:05] <pavlushka> and calhax , if you can paste the result of "sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall" on paste.ubuntu.com and give us the link, :)
[18:05] <pavlushka> sorry calhax ,correction " if you can paste the result of "sudo ubuntu-drivers list" on paste.ubuntu.com and give us the link, :)
[18:06] <calhax> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23062346/
[18:08] <Kilos> here is some more to look at after https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/first-xubuntu
[18:09] <pavlushka> calhax: then try running this command "sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall".
[18:11] <pavlushka> and calhax if you can post a screenshot of your desktop in http://pasteboard.co and give us the link.
[18:13] <calhax> http://pasteboard.co/9qhsDk3UJ.png
[18:19] <SEptic> evening all
[18:20] <Kilos> hi SEptic 
[18:21] <SEptic> hey Kilos
[18:21] <SEptic> come right with your audio adapter?
[18:22] <Kilos> nope had a lazy kinda day
[18:22] <SEptic> aah, so a good day then
[18:22] <Kilos> still battling to get kde to see the webcam
[18:23] <SEptic> oh deat
[18:23] <SEptic> *dear
[18:23] <Kilos> need to do something but googling gives big work
[18:24] <pavlushka> calhax: and by sayng choppy , you mean wavy or a bit inconsistence?
[18:25] <pavlushka> evening SEptic !
[18:28] <SEptic> hey pavlushka
[18:29] <Kilos> sigh now ubuntu channels are being spammed
[18:30] <pavlushka> whassup SEptic ?
[18:31] <magespawn> good evening
[18:31] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[18:31] <SEptic> nah much, chilling for now
[18:34] <Kilos> hi kulelu88 
[18:34] <kulelu88> 0/
[18:35]  * pavlushka preparing for his signature call
[18:35] <pavlushka> ahoy ZA!
[18:35] <Kilos> haha
[18:45] <SEptic> oh hi magespawn
[18:45] <SEptic> rude of me
[18:48] <magespawn> hi SEptic 
[18:49] <magespawn> no worries
[19:35] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[19:38] <magespawn> i am also off, good night all
[19:43] <SEptic> me too