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| OvenWerks | for those who can do backports... Ardour 5.0 has hit debian. | 15:08 |
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| autumna | hi ovenwerks! | 15:09 |
| OvenWerks | hi. | 15:10 |
| sakrecoer | hi OvenWerks ! good news! :) | 15:10 |
| autumna | :D | 15:11 |
| sakrecoer | nice news features! | 15:12 |
| sakrecoer | https://community.ardour.org/node/13842 | 15:12 |
| OvenWerks | Ardour 5 is very different than 4.7. The session file format changes. (5 can load 4.7 files, 4.7 can not deal with 5.0 files) | 15:13 |
| sakrecoer | that's good! | 15:14 |
| sakrecoer | easy sidechain, midi-busses, OSC... \o/ | 15:16 |
| autumna | Lua scripting! | 15:16 |
| OvenWerks | OSC surface control is completely different... but much expanded. | 15:16 |
| sakrecoer | wow... i wonder if we can have that in before feature freeze... :p | 15:17 |
| autumna | what is needed to make it happen? | 15:20 |
| sakrecoer | not very clear to me yet... but i think it needs to be in the seeds... | 15:27 |
| sakrecoer | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeatureFreeze | 15:28 |
| sakrecoer | if i read this correctly, it will be synced, since we are still prior to FF https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages#Requesting_a_new_package_for_Ubuntu | 15:34 |
| sakrecoer | wait... FF and DIF | 15:34 |
| sakrecoer | oh, its the same day... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YakketyYak/ReleaseSchedule | 15:35 |
| sakrecoer | tomorrow that is... | 15:35 |
| sakrecoer | i guess i should poke Ross about it.. | 15:36 |
| zequence | I will be doing uploads of all packages that have changes in them today | 15:41 |
| zequence | Has anything else changed apart from the seeds? | 15:41 |
| zequence | I could also wait until tomorrow evening, if someone wants to poke around with a package still- | 15:41 |
| zequence | If ardour5 is in Debian unstable, it is possible to do a sync request | 15:43 |
| zequence | ..after FF, that is. Otherwise it should be imported automatically before Debian Import Freeze | 15:43 |
| sakrecoer | zequence: we are looking into changing the default-settings | 15:45 |
| zequence | sakrecoer: What are you going to change? | 15:45 |
| sakrecoer | the theme | 15:45 |
| sakrecoer | from greybird to numix | 15:45 |
| zequence | That can be done even after FF. But, I would suggest fixing the colors before doing that | 15:45 |
| zequence | Theming would fall under the UI Freeze category | 15:46 |
| zequence | sakrecoer: So, nothing else than seeds yet? | 15:46 |
| sakrecoer | cool! thank you! good to know, because we are working on packaging the blue version, so it will not be ready tomorrow indeed... | 15:47 |
| sakrecoer | not that i can think of right now... | 15:47 |
| sakrecoer | zequence ^ | 15:48 |
| zequence | Ok. I'll put up a new meta today then. | 15:48 |
| sakrecoer | zequence: maybe ou can shoot a mail to the list, so ross can have a chance to react? | 15:49 |
| zequence | Poke me whenever you need a change fixed. Last cycle we waited much too long with changes, but it was an LTS. This time there's no reasonable reason to hurry. | 15:49 |
| zequence | If Ross would like to change something, I'm sure he would have done it already | 15:50 |
| sakrecoer | cool! thank you very much zequence ! :) | 15:50 |
| * autumna catches up to log after dinner | 15:52 | |
| autumna | yay (and hi zequence) | 15:53 |
| zequence | autumna: hi | 15:53 |
| zequence | Anyone tried snaps yet? | 15:54 |
| zequence | Would seem like ardour might be suitable as a snap. | 15:54 |
| autumna | zequence: why would ardour be suitable as a snap compared to another package? (asking to understand better) | 15:55 |
| zequence | It would be simpler to update it to the most recent version - all though I would not like to have ardour4 be replaced with ardour5. I'd rather have them installed in paralell, and that would also be possible with snaps | 15:57 |
| autumna | ah.. | 15:57 |
| autumna | so this is in theory true for software packages? (e.g. krita, blender, etc)? | 15:58 |
| zequence | Yes, all of them might be easier to maintain as snaps | 15:59 |
| zequence | There's still a problem with drivers though, as far as graphics go, I think. | 15:59 |
| autumna | I see | 15:59 |
| autumna | so audio packages are a go, but wait on anything graphics and video, that uses.. is it just the graphic cards, or is there issues with other drivers too? | 16:00 |
| zequence | Think there was an issue with Blender. Something with openGL libs | 16:00 |
| autumna | *nods* | 16:01 |
| autumna | which would rule out Krita, blender, and processing too if I ever got to that | 16:02 |
| autumna | and possibly several other programs | 16:02 |
| zequence | You can find snaps with: snap find <package> | 16:02 |
| autumna | (krita has a snap package, but I feel like i read somewhere it too had issues? I might be wrong through) | 16:03 |
| autumna | I am fairly certain processing and p5.js was never packaged through. p5.js editor just came out for one thing | 16:04 |
| autumna | (just came out for linux) | 16:04 |
| zequence | Heh, someone just updated ubuntustudio-meta | 16:09 |
| autumna | :))) | 16:10 |
| zequence | It was infinity, the release manager, a Canonical employee | 16:10 |
| OvenWerks | I agree that installing Ardour 4 and 5 in parallel would be a good choice. | 16:10 |
| zequence | Apparently infinity was poking with seeds for many flavors, and decided to update them all. | 16:12 |
| autumna | :D | 16:14 |
| autumna | sakrecoer, do you think it is enough to give 1 week for final review of the website content before we declare it finished? | 16:29 |
| autumna | this is after all the pages are complete | 16:29 |
| zequence | Major spamming on the staging site. 922 comments so far | 17:07 |
| zequence | Closing commenting. | 17:07 |
| zequence | Mail box got kind of full these past two days. Hadn't checked it for a while. | 17:09 |
| sakrecoer | autumna: a week from now? maybe yes, it depends on how available everyone is. but then we have to migrate it too... not too sure how that will work, but i guess we weill figure it out. | 17:31 |
| autumna | a week only for the review | 17:31 |
| autumna | as for migration, I am hoping to have a final set of plugins (we are missing a security plugin at the moment, unless the real site has something that isn't on the stage) | 17:31 |
| autumna | we can put the ticket in | 17:31 |
| autumna | for that | 17:32 |
| autumna | then review the content, after that either migrate | 17:32 |
| autumna | I mean those two can happen at same time | 17:32 |
| autumna | I'd really deploy the site before the release rush hits through | 17:32 |
| sakrecoer | either migrate, or...? | 17:32 |
| autumna | oh either migrate or give an extra week or two of user feedback | 17:32 |
| autumna | as "beta site" | 17:33 |
| sakrecoer | that would be a good idea. it's probably wise also to do as you say: deploy before release | 17:33 |
| autumna | please! | 17:35 |
| autumna | :D | 17:35 |
| autumna | so yes, I mean if we can finish our internal review and deploying of the plugins etc by end of august | 17:35 |
| autumna | that gives us maybe 2 weeks to calmly get feedback and deploy it to main? | 17:36 |
| sakrecoer | sounds fair.. | 17:39 |
| autumna | *nods* | 17:47 |
| autumna | I mean as I said I am not certain we have logistics in place to do a beta open to public | 17:48 |
| autumna | but it is something to consider | 17:48 |
| autumna | anyhow I think when I finish the download page the site will be done | 17:48 |
| autumna | footer, check | 17:48 |
| autumna | social media links, check | 17:48 |
| autumna | merchandise page, check | 17:48 |
| autumna | artpage will come later. | 17:48 |
| autumna | oh we need to draft the forum post requesting images, so that I can uncomment the relevant bit in "contribute" section | 17:49 |
| autumna | sorry I am mostly thinking out loud | 17:50 |
| autumna | I'll email the mailing list later tonight | 17:51 |
| sakrecoer | thinking out loud is good (nice even), email the list is best so everyone can be in on it :) | 18:00 |
| autumna | will do when download page is done | 18:23 |
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