| klin | Hi | 01:12 |
|---|---|---|
| lobo_ | hello | 05:48 |
| waltersraspberry | hi | 07:26 |
| alkisg | Hello | 07:30 |
| waltersraspberry | hi | 07:30 |
| waltersraspberry | ubuntu mate works on my raspberry pi 3 | 07:30 |
| waltersraspberry | 16.04 :) | 07:31 |
| alkisg | Nice! Can you surf with it? I find it unusuably slow.. | 07:32 |
| waltersraspberry | yes i can | 07:32 |
| waltersraspberry | have you a raspberry pi 3 | 07:32 |
| alkisg | No I have pi 2 | 07:32 |
| alkisg | It's 50 times slower than my i5 | 07:33 |
| alkisg | And pi 3 is only 0.4 times faster than pi 2, so... still unusably slow | 07:33 |
| waltersraspberry | i have put in a samsung evo plus 64gb micro sd is very fast | 07:33 |
| alkisg | I can't login to gmail in under 1 minute | 07:33 |
| alkisg | I can't watch full screen youtube | 07:33 |
| alkisg | The sd card doesn't matter for those... | 07:33 |
| waltersraspberry | you can install kodi or osmc and the rpi3 works fine as player | 07:34 |
| alkisg | It's just unusable as a normal client, and only good for special cases... | 07:34 |
| waltersraspberry | but the pi is micro | 07:34 |
| alkisg | kodi plugins break every second week | 07:34 |
| alkisg | I prefer using the browser | 07:35 |
| waltersraspberry | hmm ubuntu mate is good but my pi is faster then an windows 7 laptop | 07:36 |
| waltersraspberry | its boot in 5sec | 07:36 |
| waltersraspberry | i have overheatsinking | 07:36 |
| alkisg | Boot time doesn't matter at all | 07:36 |
| alkisg | If you can't surf with it | 07:36 |
| waltersraspberry | alkisg | 07:36 |
| waltersraspberry | have you hear from the udoo x86 | 07:37 |
| alkisg | I prefer i3/i5's, they also come in small forms | 07:38 |
| waltersraspberry | http://www.udoo.org/udoo-x86/ | 07:38 |
| alkisg | http://www.gearbest.com/tv-box-mini-pc/pp_361276.html | 07:38 |
| waltersraspberry | show this oneplatincomputer it can run all 86 | 07:38 |
| waltersraspberry | is this your computer | 07:39 |
| alkisg | What is its cpubenchmark score? | 07:39 |
| ouroumov | waltersraspberry, this udoo thing is not a product yet | 07:39 |
| waltersraspberry | why | 07:40 |
| alkisg | No, I have a normal desktop i3/i5, and I'm only using the pi to remote desktop to it when needed | 07:40 |
| ouroumov | waltersraspberry, it's a kickstarter | 07:40 |
| waltersraspberry | what is a kickstarter | 07:40 |
| ouroumov | waltersraspberry, an operation to raise money for a project | 07:42 |
| waltersraspberry | it can be that this projekt have not enough money and then is the projekt not possibly | 07:43 |
| waltersraspberry | how many cost the raspberry pi3 by you ouroumov | 07:44 |
| ouroumov | waltersraspberry, I don't know and I sure as hell don't care | 07:45 |
| ouroumov | waltersraspberry, I have no use for a PI | 07:45 |
| waltersraspberry | okay for me was this a other variant to computer | 07:46 |
| waltersraspberry | *as | 07:46 |
| ouroumov | waltersraspberry, like many people I've toyed with the idea of getting one, but seriously I can't justify trading money for one | 07:46 |
| alkisg | I think raspberry PIs are only good for special cases, like print servers or meteo stations | 07:46 |
| waltersraspberry | yes i think it is to expensive ouroumov what do you think about the s7 edge | 07:47 |
| waltersraspberry | it is very expensive | 07:48 |
| bollo | I have three. Music (runeaudio), roms (retropie) and tv streaming (openelec). | 07:49 |
| ouroumov | waltersraspberry, I dig the idea of an x86 single board computer though | 07:49 |
| alkisg | They already exist, for example: http://www.gearbest.com/tv-box-mini-pc/pp_359435.html | 07:49 |
| bollo | Three generations | 07:49 |
| ouroumov | waltersraspberry, I don't know what that is (s7 edge) | 07:50 |
| waltersraspberry | okay wait ouroumov | 07:50 |
| waltersraspberry | http://www.udoo.org/udoo-x86/ | 07:53 |
| waltersraspberry | ohh sorry | 07:53 |
| waltersraspberry | error link | 07:53 |
| waltersraspberry | here is it http://www.samsung.com/us/explore/galaxy | 07:53 |
| ouroumov | waltersraspberry, that's a 404 | 07:54 |
| waltersraspberry | ohh | 07:55 |
| waltersraspberry | i send you a new | 07:55 |
| waltersraspberry | http://www.samsung.com/us/explore/galaxy-s7-features-and-specs/ | 07:55 |
| waltersraspberry | so ist the right | 07:56 |
| waltersraspberry | ouromov what do you think about this phone | 07:57 |
| walter__ | my raspberry pi3 was frezzing | 08:01 |
| walter__ | i think to make a kernel update | 08:02 |
| walter__ | what is the command for a kernel upgrade | 08:02 |
| alkisg | It's a normal upgrade, nothing special | 08:02 |
| alkisg | You just press yes when you get the upgrade prompts | 08:02 |
| walter__ | ohh see | 08:03 |
| walter__ | walter@walter-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get upgrade | 08:04 |
| walter__ | [sudo] password for walter: | 08:04 |
| walter__ | Reading package lists... Done | 08:04 |
| walter__ | Building dependency tree | 08:04 |
| walter__ | Reading state information... Done | 08:04 |
| walter__ | Calculating upgrade... Done | 08:04 |
| walter__ | The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: | 08:04 |
| walter__ | augeas-lenses bridge-utils cgmanager cpu-checker ebtables gir1.2-gtk-vnc-2.0 | 08:04 |
| walter__ | gir1.2-libosinfo-1.0 gir1.2-libvirt-glib-1.0 gir1.2-spice-client-glib-2.0 | 08:04 |
| walter__ | gir1.2-spice-client-gtk-3.0 ipxe-qemu libaio1 libaugeas0 | 08:04 |
| walter__ | libboost-random1.58.0 libboost-thread1.58.0 libcacard0 libcgmanager0 libfdt1 | 08:04 |
| walter__ | libgtk-vnc-2.0-0 libgvnc-1.0-0 libiscsi2 libnetcf1 libnih-dbus1 | 08:04 |
| walter__ | libnl-route-3-200 libosinfo-1.0-0 librados2 librbd1 | 08:04 |
| walter__ | libspice-client-glib-2.0-8 libspice-client-gtk-3.0-4 libusbredirhost1 | 08:04 |
| walter__ | libusbredirparser1 libvirt-glib-1.0-0 libvirt0 libxen-4.6 libxenstore3.0 | 08:04 |
| walter__ | python-ipaddr python-libvirt python-libxml2 qemu-block-extra qemu-slof | 08:05 |
| walter__ | qemu-system-arm qemu-system-common qemu-system-mips qemu-system-misc | 08:05 |
| walter__ | qemu-system-ppc qemu-system-sparc qemu-system-x86 qemu-user qemu-user-binfmt | 08:05 |
| walter__ | qemu-utils seabios spice-client-glib-usb-acl-helper virtinst | 08:05 |
| walter__ | Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them. | 08:05 |
| walter__ | The following packages will be upgraded: | 08:05 |
| walter__ | apparmor libapparmor-perl libapparmor1 | 08:05 |
| walter__ | 3 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. | 08:05 |
| walter__ | Need to get 456 kB of archives. | 08:05 |
| walter__ | After this operation, 0 B of additional disk space will be used. | 08:05 |
| walter__ | Do you want to continue? [Y/n] | 08:05 |
| alkisg | walter__: don't paste more than 3 lines here | 08:05 |
| alkisg | Use paste.ubuntu.com or something | 08:05 |
| walter__ | i have use | 08:05 |
| walter__ | used pastebin | 08:05 |
| alkisg | You filled the channel with the output | 08:06 |
| walter__ | walter@walter-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get upgrade | 08:06 |
| walter__ | [sudo] password for walter: | 08:06 |
| walter__ | Reading package lists... Done | 08:06 |
| walter__ | Building dependency tree | 08:06 |
| walter__ | Reading state information... Done | 08:06 |
| walter__ | Calculating upgrade... Done | 08:06 |
| walter__ | The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: | 08:06 |
| walter__ | augeas-lenses bridge-utils cgmanager cpu-checker ebtables gir1.2-gtk-vnc-2.0 | 08:06 |
| walter__ | gir1.2-libosinfo-1.0 gir1.2-libvirt-glib-1.0 gir1.2-spice-client-glib-2.0 | 08:06 |
| walter__ | gir1.2-spice-client-gtk-3.0 ipxe-qemu libaio1 libaugeas0 | 08:06 |
| walter__ | libboost-random1.58.0 libboost-thread1.58.0 libcacard0 libcgmanager0 libfdt1 | 08:06 |
| walter__ | libgtk-vnc-2.0-0 libgvnc-1.0-0 libiscsi2 libnetcf1 libnih-dbus1 | 08:06 |
| walter__ | libnl-route-3-200 libosinfo-1.0-0 librados2 librbd1 | 08:07 |
| walter__ | libspice-client-glib-2.0-8 libspice-client-gtk-3.0-4 libusbredirhost1 | 08:07 |
| walter__ | libusbredirparser1 libvirt-glib-1.0-0 libvirt0 libxen-4.6 libxenstore3.0 | 08:07 |
| walter__ | python-ipaddr python-libvirt python-libxml2 qemu-block-extra qemu-slof | 08:07 |
| walter__ | qemu-system-arm qemu-system-common qemu-system-mips qemu-system-misc | 08:07 |
| walter__ | qemu-system-ppc qemu-system-sparc qemu-system-x86 qemu-user qemu-user-binfmt | 08:07 |
| walter__ | qemu-utils seabios spice-client-glib-usb-acl-helper virtinst | 08:07 |
| walter__ | Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them. | 08:07 |
| walter__ | The following packages will be upgraded: | 08:07 |
| walter__ | apparmor libapparmor-perl libapparmor1 | 08:07 |
| walter__ | 3 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. | 08:07 |
| walter__ | Need to get 456 kB of archives. | 08:07 |
| walter__ | After this operation, 0 B of additional disk space will be used. | 08:07 |
| walter__ | Do you want to continue? [Y/n] | 08:07 |
| walter__ | how this work pastebin | 08:07 |
| walter__ | what is syntax highlighting soory for the long text | 08:07 |
| alkisg | walter__: stop it, don't do that again. Put what you want to paste.ubuntu.com. Then only paste here the URL, the address that paste.ubuntu.com replied with. | 08:07 |
| alkisg | Noone will help you if you behave like that | 08:07 |
| walter__ | ahh okay soory | 08:07 |
| walter__ | i dont would this | 08:08 |
| walter__ | http://paste.ubuntu.com/23063739/ | 08:09 |
| walter__ | here is it | 08:09 |
| alkisg | Much better | 08:11 |
| alkisg | Now, what is your question? | 08:11 |
| walter__ | how upgrade the kernel | 08:11 |
| walter__ | how install all pakets they i need | 08:11 |
| alkisg | You updated and you didn't get a new kernel. That means that you already have the newest kernel. | 08:11 |
| walter__ | have you a website with the i can put photos and paste the url here | 08:12 |
| alkisg | One example is http://picpaste.com/ | 08:13 |
| walter__ | thank you | 08:13 |
| walter__ | http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_at_2016-08-17_10_13_45-bIYgQbi3.png | 08:14 |
| alkisg | And what is your question with that picture? | 08:14 |
| walter__ | the cpu is high | 08:15 |
| alkisg | At 10% you think it is high? No, it isn't | 08:15 |
| walter__ | no they change all secunds | 08:16 |
| walter__ | seconds | 08:16 |
| walter__ | from 10 to 30 | 08:16 |
| alkisg | It's a raspberry pi. Its cpu is much slower than a mobile phone. That's the best it can do. | 08:16 |
| alkisg | That's why I'm saying that it's not appropriate for normal use | 08:17 |
| walter__ | can he destroyed when is the cpu to high | 08:17 |
| walter__ | i will buy cooler than he not be hot | 08:17 |
| alkisg | I don't know its temperature limits, ask in #raspberrypi | 08:18 |
| alkisg | Here is for mate desktop questions | 08:18 |
| walter__ | okay | 08:18 |
| walter__ | why is my nickname not waltersraspberry | 08:19 |
| ouroumov | <waltersraspberry> ouromov what do you think about this phone -> I think it's expensive | 08:23 |
| ouroumov | erf | 08:23 |
| ali1234 | the funny thing about gnome system monitor | 08:23 |
| ali1234 | see those curved graphs? | 08:24 |
| ali1234 | the spline algorithm they use is ridiculously CPU intensive | 08:24 |
| waltersraspberry | how can i make my own community | 08:26 |
| ouroumov | ali1234, is there a better alternative? Maybe you can whishlist it? | 08:26 |
| waltersraspberry | no | 08:26 |
| ali1234 | ouroumov: i reported the bug literally about 8 years ago | 08:26 |
| waltersraspberry | what a bug | 08:27 |
| ali1234 | there is already better alternative, it's called top | 08:27 |
| ouroumov | ali1234, I mean to get curved lines | 08:27 |
| ouroumov | ali1234, where's the bug report? | 08:27 |
| waltersraspberry | where know a good easter egg on ubuntu mate | 08:28 |
| alkisg | ali1234: system-monitor is using 1% of my cpu... I wouldn't call that intense | 08:29 |
| waltersraspberry | :) | 08:29 |
| waltersraspberry | °°°°°°° | 08:30 |
| ali1234 | here's the main bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-system-monitor/+bug/93847 | 08:30 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 93847 in Gnome System Monitor "Excessive CPU usage by Gnome System Monitor " [High,Fix released] | 08:30 |
| ouroumov | Fix released? | 08:31 |
| waltersraspberry | i found that ubuntu have a bit aperreance mac os x | 08:32 |
| waltersraspberry | mate | 08:32 |
| alkisg | Fix released in 2013 | 08:32 |
| ali1234 | maybe. i havent used gnome since about 2012 | 08:32 |
| waltersraspberry | i found that ubuntu have a bit aperreance mac os x | 08:32 |
| waltersraspberry | mat | 08:32 |
| waltersraspberry | on what based ubuntu mate | 08:33 |
| ali1234 | it's not really fixed, CPUs just got faster in nearly 10 years, so now it uses only 2% - 3% instead of 10% - 15% | 08:33 |
| ali1234 | until you run it on a raspberry pi, then it uses a significant % again | 08:34 |
| alkisg | ali1234: well, a fix was committed and released | 08:34 |
| ali1234 | yeah check the fix | 08:34 |
| ouroumov | waltersraspberry, please make entire sentences and use punctuation | 08:34 |
| waltersraspberry | you mean me #ali1234 | 08:34 |
| ali1234 | has nothing to do with CPU | 08:34 |
| alkisg | A pi uses significant % of cpu even for running ls :) | 08:34 |
| alkisg | Spline algorithms have been running fine since the 8086 era... | 08:35 |
| ali1234 | yeah, which is why this one is so bad | 08:35 |
| alkisg | I don't see anyone complaining about it, other than you, who are not using it... | 08:35 |
| ali1234 | except for the 10 duplicate bug reports | 08:35 |
| ali1234 | and the person commenting that it is still broken in 2016 | 08:36 |
| alkisg | Which were fix-released in 2013 | 08:36 |
| ali1234 | but sure ignore the facts | 08:36 |
| alkisg | And saying that the splines are not to blame | 08:36 |
| alkisg | He blames another tab for 5% | 08:36 |
| ali1234 | you can clearly see that they are | 08:36 |
| ali1234 | all you have to do is run it and top at the same time | 08:36 |
| ali1234 | and then switch between the tabs | 08:36 |
| alkisg | I did | 08:36 |
| alkisg | 1% cpu, nothing | 08:36 |
| ali1234 | and notice that the one with splines on uses ridiculous amounts of CPU | 08:36 |
| waltersraspberry | helol | 08:38 |
| waltersraspberry | hello i have a problem | 08:38 |
| alkisg | ali1234: on a pi, while watching the processes, I get 40% of one cpu, and while watching the splines, only 30%. So they definately are not to blame. | 08:39 |
| ali1234 | here's the upstream bug where they talk about the CPU usage problem of the graphs. notice it isn't fixed. https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=636343 | 08:39 |
| ubottu | Gnome bug 636343 in resources "Use uber-graph for less CPU usage" [Enhancement,New] | 08:39 |
| alkisg | Can you reproduce what you're saying? I can't. End of story until someone here does reproduce it. | 08:40 |
| alkisg | Request to use other libraries don't prove anything without benchmarks | 08:41 |
| ouroumov | https://paste.debian.net/hidden/85ff3349/ -> uses less than 5% on my i5 skylake. I guess it's kind of high. | 08:42 |
| alkisg | From comment 3, "I’m afraid not the graph drawing is consuming CPU, but updating the process list" | 08:42 |
| alkisg | I don't object to system-monitor consuming more cpu than it needs; I object to blaming the splines | 08:42 |
| alkisg | at least, I can't verify it | 08:42 |
| ali1234 | did you want until the graph is the width of the window | 08:43 |
| ali1234 | see comment 4 | 08:43 |
| alkisg | It was 1300 pixels wide | 08:43 |
| ali1234 | yeah and how long was the line? | 08:43 |
| alkisg | I can run "ls" and it will take more cpu | 08:43 |
| alkisg | It's a pi... | 08:43 |
| alkisg | About 100 pixels high per graph | 08:44 |
| ali1234 | yeah and how long is the line? | 08:44 |
| alkisg | The spline? Full width | 08:44 |
| alkisg | The process tab needs more cpu than the graph tab | 08:44 |
| alkisg | So if optimization is needed, I don't think the graph tab should be the first thing to look for | 08:45 |
| ali1234 | any type of optimization in g-s-m would be welcomed by its users i'm sure | 08:45 |
| ali1234 | but after 9 years i'm sure they are no longer holding their breath | 08:45 |
| alkisg | For the 1% cpu it needs in my i5, I certainly don't care if they optimize it more... | 08:46 |
| alkisg | For the 30% it needs in the pi... well, ls needs more, so I just need to throw away my pi :) | 08:47 |
| ali1234 | for me it uses 3% CPU on the processes tab and 5% on the resources tab | 08:47 |
| alkisg | Is this on ubuntu-mate 16.04? | 08:48 |
| alkisg | Or the gnome 3 version? | 08:48 |
| waltersraspberry | whwn | 08:48 |
| waltersraspberry | sorry | 08:48 |
| ali1234 | it's gnome-system-monitor on ubuntu 16.04 | 08:49 |
| alkisg | Then the gnome-3 version, with compositors etc, so the graphic stack might be to blame there for the bit higher cpu | 08:49 |
| waltersraspberry | when is cold i open my window and my pi will not be hot | 08:49 |
| ali1234 | i'm running it in xfce with compositing disabled | 08:49 |
| ali1234 | i'm running it on an i7-6700 | 08:50 |
| alkisg | Maybe you have fewer processes then, or worse graphics card, dunno, that's what I'm seeing here | 08:50 |
| ali1234 | i have a gtx-780 | 08:50 |
| alkisg | i5-4440 here, mate without compositing | 08:50 |
| alkisg | nouveau or nvidia? | 08:50 |
| waltersraspberry | "Really, I'm not out to destroy Microsoft. That will just be a completely unintentional side effect.") | 08:50 |
| ali1234 | now that the graphs fill the whole screen it is using 12% CPU | 08:50 |
| waltersraspberry | "Really, I'm not out to destroy Microsoft. That will just be a completely unintentional side effect.") | 08:51 |
| ali1234 | nvidia | 08:51 |
| alkisg | with fullscreen in the resources tab in 1920, and terminal on lower bottom on top of the monitor window => 2.7 cpu | 08:52 |
| alkisg | 1920x1080 | 08:52 |
| ali1234 | change the update frequency to 0.25 seconds | 08:52 |
| ali1234 | when i do that it uses 40% CPU | 08:53 |
| alkisg | same with processes tab => 4% | 08:53 |
| ali1234 | process tab never goes over 4% for me | 08:53 |
| alkisg | So again the processes tab is two times slower than the resources tab | 08:53 |
| ali1234 | yeah for me it's 10x faster | 08:53 |
| alkisg | Maybe nvidia issues | 08:54 |
| alkisg | Different drivers get different results in different UI libraries etc | 08:54 |
| alkisg | E.g. I've seen 100 times faster or slower results on specific x11perf or gtkperf tests, | 08:54 |
| alkisg | not in general due to the graphics card, but to specific bits, due to unoptimized driver | 08:54 |
| alkisg | So maybe the bug you're seeking is in nvidia upstream | 08:55 |
| alkisg | Try comparing gtkperf or x11perf with an intel one | 08:55 |
| ali1234 | wait, are you claiming that nvidia can't handle 4 fps? | 08:55 |
| ali1234 | that seems like a stretch | 08:55 |
| ouroumov | lol | 08:56 |
| alkisg | No, I'm claiming that for example putshmimage may be 10 times faster in intel than in nvidia, | 08:56 |
| alkisg | while, in the same example, the overall score may be higher in nvidia | 08:56 |
| alkisg | There are specific unoptimized functions that are extremely slow in some drivers | 08:56 |
| alkisg | I've seen many bugs and fixes for such issues | 08:56 |
| alkisg | Try x11perf in just 2 pcs with different drivers, you'll see what I'm talking about | 08:57 |
| * alkisg spent days on such benchmarks | 08:57 | |
| waltersraspberry | here is a long disscusion :) | 08:58 |
| ali1234 | it's definitely a problem with the way the display is rendered | 08:58 |
| ali1234 | the graphs update when you're on another tab but this does not take loads of CPU | 08:59 |
| waltersraspberry | ;I have a Problem | 08:59 |
| waltersraspberry | i will ask all what is the best way to lern english vocabulary | 09:03 |
| alkisg | waltersraspberry: this channel is for supporting ubuntu mate | 09:03 |
| alkisg | Not for general, offtopic chat | 09:03 |
| alkisg | Try joining this channel for offtopic chat: #ubuntu-offtopic | 09:04 |
| waltersraspberry | yes but this help me | 09:04 |
| alkisg | Yes but you annoy people here if you chat about how you will learn english, so they will ban you | 09:04 |
| alkisg | There are rules to follow | 09:04 |
| waltersraspberry | sorry | 09:04 |
| alkisg | Ask about mate, not whatever comes to your mind | 09:04 |
| waltersraspberry | :) okay | 09:05 |
| alkisg | Or join #ubuntu-offtopic | 09:05 |
| alkisg | People there want to talk to you about how to learn english | 09:05 |
| waltersraspberry | yes that is my problem | 09:05 |
| alkisg | So ask them there | 09:05 |
| alkisg | Type: /join #ubuntu-offtopic | 09:05 |
| alkisg | And ask there | 09:05 |
| waltersraspberry | not works | 09:06 |
| alkisg | Google about how to join irc channels then, you did something wrong | 09:06 |
| waltersraspberry | #ubuntu-offtopic :Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services | 09:07 |
| alkisg | ali1234: I tried in vbox (which has its own drivers), I'm getting 1% gnome-system-monitor, and 30% compiz (this one in stock ubuntu/unity) | 09:08 |
| alkisg | So I can't blame gnome-system-monitor, but surely compiz needs a lot of cpu in llvmpipe environments | 09:09 |
| ali1234 | yeah it does | 09:09 |
| ouroumov | waltersraspberry, see /ns help to register your nickname | 09:09 |
| waltersraspberry | i have tried | 09:11 |
| waltersraspberry | its not work | 09:13 |
| ouroumov | waltersraspberry, ask for assistance on #ubuntu-de | 09:14 |
| alkisg | ...on how to join #ubuntu-offtopic :) | 09:14 |
| waltersraspberry | :) | 09:14 |
| ouroumov | flexiondotorg, hi. Do you need me to do something else regarding that memleak issue? I can attempt to reproduce in other distros if necessary if it's needed. | 09:36 |
| waltersraspberry | hello | 09:52 |
| waltersraspberry | "Really, I'm not out to destroy Microsoft. That will just be a completely unintentional side effect.") | 10:23 |
| === james_ is now known as Guest23314 | ||
| alom | Hi | 12:01 |
| alom | Every Body How are you ? | 12:01 |
| neoack | bonjour | 12:08 |
| neoack | je debute sous linux ubuntu et lors de l'installation je n'ai pas de son pilote ALC282 quelqu'un peut m'aider ? | 12:08 |
| neoack | SVP | 12:08 |
| neoack | Hi | 12:09 |
| neoack | i m beginner in ubuntu but i m no sound after install. My sound driver is ALC282. Help Pls | 12:09 |
| ouroumov | hi neoack | 12:11 |
| neoack | hi | 12:11 |
| neoack | can you help mee lol ? | 12:11 |
| ouroumov | neoack, I assume you've went around and checked the sound settings? | 12:11 |
| ouroumov | There's a pane in the sound settings window to select output hardware | 12:12 |
| neoack | i test alsamixer and lspci but my sound map is reconnized but no sound | 12:12 |
| neoack | output GK104 hDMI Audio controller Digital Stereo but if i change tou internal audio no osund too | 12:14 |
| ouroumov | can you provide the output of the following command on pastebin.com? : lshw -C sound | 12:14 |
| raspberry | hi, does anyone here know how to get ubuntu mate recognise homemade joystick? I connected my joystick to the raspberry via SPI and it works, but I need the system to know that it is a joystick and don't know how to achieve that | 12:16 |
| neoack | this http://pastebin.com/KVy5YJ5X | 12:16 |
| ouroumov | raspberry, no idea, maybe ask on our forums? ( https://ubuntu-mate.community/c/support/raspberry-pi-2 ) | 12:17 |
| raspberry | I've posted there yesterday, moreover I've posted on raspberry forum too still no answer :( | 12:18 |
| ouroumov | so neoack the correct driver is snd_hda_intel | 12:18 |
| ouroumov | raspberry, well, maybe you just need to give it some time. :x | 12:18 |
| neoack | ok ty sorry but how to install are you doc or wiki | 12:19 |
| raspberry | yeah I hope that's the case. It would be sad not to get any response. It's been four days I'm thinking about that problem. Frustrating | 12:19 |
| ouroumov | neoack, I mean it's the driver you're currently using, you're not using whatever ALC282 is | 12:19 |
| ouroumov | raspberry, why specifically do you need the device to be recognized as a joystick? | 12:20 |
| raspberry | to use it with Mission Planner, when the device is recognized as joystick Mission Planner won't need special code to control the drone | 12:20 |
| ouroumov | raspberry, you're running that under wine on a raspberry? | 12:23 |
| raspberry | raspberry I've made my own analog joysticks using MCP3008 | 12:25 |
| ouroumov | But the Mission Planner home page says it's Windows software | 12:25 |
| raspberry | yeah but there is APM planner which some guy made based on Mission Planner and it works on ubuntu mate to make it possible on raspberry | 12:26 |
| ouroumov | I see someone slapped a "gaming" time on your thread, maybe you could update your post so people better understand what you're trying to do? :/ | 12:28 |
| ouroumov | tag * | 12:29 |
| raspberry | ok I've updated | 12:32 |
| ouroumov | raspberry, I've changed the topic on your thread a little for better visibility | 12:50 |
| raspberry | ok thanks for that | 12:52 |
| ouroumov | I've also removed the "gaming" tag and added "system" instead | 12:53 |
| ouroumov | There's no "hardware" tag :/ | 12:53 |
| raspberry | let's hope someone will answer | 12:54 |
| TwoNotes | Using the "Software Boutique", how do I install a package for ehich I know the name? There does not seem to be a search function | 15:14 |
| pavlos | I get this error /usr/share/themes/Radiant-MATE/gtk-2.0/apps/mate-panel.rc:30: error: invalid string constant "scrollbar", expected valid string constant | 16:37 |
| pavlos | when I try caja smb://somehost | 16:37 |
| manxboy | hello? | 17:17 |
| manxboy | hi | 17:22 |
| DarkPsydeLord | hello | 17:22 |
| DarkPsydeLord | :) | 17:22 |
| manxboy | does anyone know where to download ubuntu mate 14.04? | 17:22 |
| manxboy | I have amd card | 17:22 |
| manxboy | brb | 17:22 |
| DarkPsydeLord | currently ubuntu mate 16.04 | 17:23 |
| manxboy | I have an amd Graphics card, which means in order to install the driver, I would need to use 15 or below... | 17:26 |
| DarkPsydeLord | no open source driver for you then? | 17:29 |
| DarkPsydeLord | the issue was fglrx | 17:30 |
| manxboy | I can't get it to work with my card... I have a Radeon HD 6400M/7400M Series card | 17:30 |
| DarkPsydeLord | https://ubuntu-mate.org/trusty/ | 17:31 |
| manxboy | Thankyou soo much!!!! | 17:32 |
| manxboy | when I tried to download 15, I got a 404 error... | 17:32 |
| manxboy | 14 works tho! | 17:32 |
| manxboy | :) | 17:32 |
| DarkPsydeLord | yw | 17:33 |
| manxboy | thanks for the help! I'm going to go install it :) bye! | 17:34 |
| DarkPsydeLord | :) | 17:34 |
| Yupy | Hi guys, I want ot install ubuntu-mate 16.10 but ask's for password and username... what is the default username and password? | 20:43 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Didn't think there was one. | 20:46 |
| Yupy | strange that is asking for one | 20:46 |
| sixwheeledbeast | It will be whatever you used in the installer | 20:46 |
| Yupy | I want to install it and is asking as default for username and password, I want to install it but have no clue what is the username and password | 20:47 |
| Grorco | Hi! | 20:47 |
| Grorco | does anyone know a way to customize the workspaces I would like 3 in the top row, and 1 in the bottom that I can ctrl+alt+down to get to from any of the others | 20:49 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Isn't it the installer asking you to create a username and password? | 21:01 |
| Yupy | nope, when I add a certain username or password say's: password incorect... actually first time ask me for a password and username, I cannot see the installer | 21:02 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Have you checked the preferences for workspaces, right click the switcher? | 21:02 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I don't believe there is a default password the installer asks to set one on installation AFAIK | 21:03 |
| Yupy | TY for the reply, I will try what is here... https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/live-session-password/7219 | 21:04 |
| sixwheeledbeast | oh live session, that makes sense | 21:07 |
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| deckler-vlad | HI | 23:37 |
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