[01:12] <klin> Hi
[05:48] <lobo_> hello
[07:26] <waltersraspberry> hi
[07:30] <alkisg> Hello
[07:30] <waltersraspberry> hi
[07:30] <waltersraspberry> ubuntu mate works on my raspberry pi 3
[07:31] <waltersraspberry> 16.04 :)
[07:32] <alkisg> Nice! Can you surf with it? I find it unusuably slow..
[07:32] <waltersraspberry> yes i can
[07:32] <waltersraspberry> have you a raspberry pi 3
[07:32] <alkisg> No I have pi 2
[07:33] <alkisg> It's 50 times slower than my i5
[07:33] <alkisg> And pi 3 is only 0.4 times faster than pi 2, so... still unusably slow
[07:33] <waltersraspberry> i have put in a samsung evo plus 64gb micro sd is very fast
[07:33] <alkisg> I can't login to gmail in under 1 minute
[07:33] <alkisg> I can't watch full screen youtube
[07:33] <alkisg> The sd card doesn't matter for those...
[07:34] <waltersraspberry> you can install kodi or osmc and the rpi3 works fine as player
[07:34] <alkisg> It's just unusable as a normal client, and only good for special cases...
[07:34] <waltersraspberry> but the pi is micro
[07:34] <alkisg> kodi plugins break every second week
[07:35] <alkisg> I prefer using the browser
[07:36] <waltersraspberry> hmm ubuntu mate is good but my pi is faster then an windows 7 laptop
[07:36] <waltersraspberry> its boot in 5sec
[07:36] <waltersraspberry> i have overheatsinking
[07:36] <alkisg> Boot time doesn't matter at all
[07:36] <alkisg> If you can't surf with it
[07:36] <waltersraspberry> alkisg
[07:37] <waltersraspberry> have you hear from the udoo x86
[07:38] <alkisg> I prefer i3/i5's, they also come in small forms
[07:38] <waltersraspberry> http://www.udoo.org/udoo-x86/
[07:38] <alkisg> http://www.gearbest.com/tv-box-mini-pc/pp_361276.html
[07:38] <waltersraspberry> show this oneplatincomputer it can run all 86
[07:39] <waltersraspberry> is this your computer
[07:39] <alkisg> What is its cpubenchmark score?
[07:39] <ouroumov> waltersraspberry, this udoo thing is not a product yet
[07:40] <waltersraspberry> why
[07:40] <alkisg> No, I have a normal desktop i3/i5, and I'm only using the pi to remote desktop to it when needed
[07:40] <ouroumov> waltersraspberry, it's a kickstarter
[07:40] <waltersraspberry> what is a kickstarter
[07:42] <ouroumov> waltersraspberry, an operation to raise money for a project
[07:43] <waltersraspberry> it can be that this projekt have not enough money and then is the projekt not possibly
[07:44] <waltersraspberry> how many cost the raspberry pi3 by you ouroumov
[07:45] <ouroumov> waltersraspberry, I don't know and I sure as hell don't care
[07:45] <ouroumov> waltersraspberry, I have no use for a PI
[07:46] <waltersraspberry> okay for me was this a other variant to computer
[07:46] <waltersraspberry> *as
[07:46] <ouroumov> waltersraspberry, like many people I've toyed with the idea of getting one, but seriously I can't justify trading money for one
[07:46] <alkisg> I think raspberry PIs are only good for special cases, like print servers or meteo stations
[07:47] <waltersraspberry> yes i think it is to expensive ouroumov what do you think about the s7 edge
[07:48] <waltersraspberry> it is very expensive
[07:49] <bollo> I have three. Music (runeaudio), roms (retropie) and tv streaming (openelec).
[07:49] <ouroumov> waltersraspberry, I dig the idea of an x86 single board computer though
[07:49] <alkisg> They already exist, for example: http://www.gearbest.com/tv-box-mini-pc/pp_359435.html
[07:49] <bollo> Three generations
[07:50] <ouroumov> waltersraspberry, I don't know what that is (s7 edge)
[07:50] <waltersraspberry> okay wait ouroumov
[07:53] <waltersraspberry> http://www.udoo.org/udoo-x86/
[07:53] <waltersraspberry> ohh sorry
[07:53] <waltersraspberry> error link
[07:53] <waltersraspberry> here is it http://www.samsung.com/us/explore/galaxy
[07:54] <ouroumov> waltersraspberry, that's a 404
[07:55] <waltersraspberry> ohh
[07:55] <waltersraspberry> i send you a new
[07:55] <waltersraspberry> http://www.samsung.com/us/explore/galaxy-s7-features-and-specs/
[07:56] <waltersraspberry> so ist the right
[07:57] <waltersraspberry> ouromov what do you think about this phone
[08:01] <walter__> my raspberry pi3 was frezzing
[08:02] <walter__> i think to make a kernel update
[08:02] <walter__> what is the command for a kernel upgrade
[08:02] <alkisg> It's a normal upgrade, nothing special
[08:02] <alkisg> You just press yes when you get the upgrade prompts
[08:03] <walter__> ohh see
[08:04] <walter__> walter@walter-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:04] <walter__> [sudo] password for walter:
[08:04] <walter__> Reading package lists... Done
[08:04] <walter__> Building dependency tree
[08:04] <walter__> Reading state information... Done
[08:04] <walter__> Calculating upgrade... Done
[08:04] <walter__> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
[08:04] <walter__>   augeas-lenses bridge-utils cgmanager cpu-checker ebtables gir1.2-gtk-vnc-2.0
[08:04] <walter__>   gir1.2-libosinfo-1.0 gir1.2-libvirt-glib-1.0 gir1.2-spice-client-glib-2.0
[08:04] <walter__>   gir1.2-spice-client-gtk-3.0 ipxe-qemu libaio1 libaugeas0
[08:04] <walter__>   libboost-random1.58.0 libboost-thread1.58.0 libcacard0 libcgmanager0 libfdt1
[08:04] <walter__>   libgtk-vnc-2.0-0 libgvnc-1.0-0 libiscsi2 libnetcf1 libnih-dbus1
[08:04] <walter__>   libnl-route-3-200 libosinfo-1.0-0 librados2 librbd1
[08:04] <walter__>   libspice-client-glib-2.0-8 libspice-client-gtk-3.0-4 libusbredirhost1
[08:04] <walter__>   libusbredirparser1 libvirt-glib-1.0-0 libvirt0 libxen-4.6 libxenstore3.0
[08:05] <walter__>   python-ipaddr python-libvirt python-libxml2 qemu-block-extra qemu-slof
[08:05] <walter__>   qemu-system-arm qemu-system-common qemu-system-mips qemu-system-misc
[08:05] <walter__>   qemu-system-ppc qemu-system-sparc qemu-system-x86 qemu-user qemu-user-binfmt
[08:05] <walter__>   qemu-utils seabios spice-client-glib-usb-acl-helper virtinst
[08:05] <walter__> Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them.
[08:05] <walter__> The following packages will be upgraded:
[08:05] <walter__>   apparmor libapparmor-perl libapparmor1
[08:05] <walter__> 3 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[08:05] <walter__> Need to get 456 kB of archives.
[08:05] <walter__> After this operation, 0 B of additional disk space will be used.
[08:05] <walter__> Do you want to continue? [Y/n]
[08:05] <alkisg> walter__: don't paste more than 3 lines here
[08:05] <alkisg> Use paste.ubuntu.com or something
[08:05] <walter__> i have use
[08:05] <walter__> used pastebin
[08:06] <alkisg> You filled the channel with the output
[08:06] <walter__> walter@walter-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:06] <walter__> [sudo] password for walter:
[08:06] <walter__> Reading package lists... Done
[08:06] <walter__> Building dependency tree
[08:06] <walter__> Reading state information... Done
[08:06] <walter__> Calculating upgrade... Done
[08:06] <walter__> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
[08:06] <walter__>   augeas-lenses bridge-utils cgmanager cpu-checker ebtables gir1.2-gtk-vnc-2.0
[08:06] <walter__>   gir1.2-libosinfo-1.0 gir1.2-libvirt-glib-1.0 gir1.2-spice-client-glib-2.0
[08:06] <walter__>   gir1.2-spice-client-gtk-3.0 ipxe-qemu libaio1 libaugeas0
[08:06] <walter__>   libboost-random1.58.0 libboost-thread1.58.0 libcacard0 libcgmanager0 libfdt1
[08:06] <walter__>   libgtk-vnc-2.0-0 libgvnc-1.0-0 libiscsi2 libnetcf1 libnih-dbus1
[08:07] <walter__>   libnl-route-3-200 libosinfo-1.0-0 librados2 librbd1
[08:07] <walter__>   libspice-client-glib-2.0-8 libspice-client-gtk-3.0-4 libusbredirhost1
[08:07] <walter__>   libusbredirparser1 libvirt-glib-1.0-0 libvirt0 libxen-4.6 libxenstore3.0
[08:07] <walter__>   python-ipaddr python-libvirt python-libxml2 qemu-block-extra qemu-slof
[08:07] <walter__>   qemu-system-arm qemu-system-common qemu-system-mips qemu-system-misc
[08:07] <walter__>   qemu-system-ppc qemu-system-sparc qemu-system-x86 qemu-user qemu-user-binfmt
[08:07] <walter__>   qemu-utils seabios spice-client-glib-usb-acl-helper virtinst
[08:07] <walter__> Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them.
[08:07] <walter__> The following packages will be upgraded:
[08:07] <walter__>   apparmor libapparmor-perl libapparmor1
[08:07] <walter__> 3 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[08:07] <walter__> Need to get 456 kB of archives.
[08:07] <walter__> After this operation, 0 B of additional disk space will be used.
[08:07] <walter__> Do you want to continue? [Y/n]
[08:07] <walter__> how this work pastebin
[08:07] <walter__> what is syntax highlighting soory for the long text
[08:07] <alkisg> walter__: stop it, don't do that again. Put what you want to paste.ubuntu.com. Then only paste here the URL, the address that paste.ubuntu.com replied with.
[08:07] <alkisg> Noone will help you if you behave like that
[08:07] <walter__> ahh okay soory
[08:08] <walter__> i dont would this
[08:09] <walter__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23063739/
[08:09] <walter__> here is it
[08:11] <alkisg> Much better
[08:11] <alkisg> Now, what is your question?
[08:11] <walter__> how upgrade the kernel
[08:11] <walter__> how install all pakets they i need
[08:11] <alkisg> You updated and you didn't get a new kernel. That means that you already have the newest kernel.
[08:12] <walter__> have you a website with the i can put photos and paste the url here
[08:13] <alkisg> One example is http://picpaste.com/
[08:13] <walter__> thank you
[08:14] <walter__> http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_at_2016-08-17_10_13_45-bIYgQbi3.png
[08:14] <alkisg> And what is your question with that picture?
[08:15] <walter__> the cpu is high
[08:15] <alkisg> At 10% you think it is high? No, it isn't
[08:16] <walter__> no they change all secunds
[08:16] <walter__> seconds
[08:16] <walter__> from 10 to 30
[08:16] <alkisg> It's a raspberry pi. Its cpu is much slower than a mobile phone. That's the best it can do.
[08:17] <alkisg> That's why I'm saying that it's not appropriate for normal use
[08:17] <walter__> can he destroyed when is the cpu to high
[08:17] <walter__> i will buy cooler than he not be hot
[08:18] <alkisg> I don't know its temperature limits, ask in #raspberrypi
[08:18] <alkisg> Here is for mate desktop questions
[08:18] <walter__> okay
[08:19] <walter__> why is my nickname not waltersraspberry
 ouromov what do you think about this phone -> I think it's expensive
[08:23] <ouroumov> erf
[08:23] <ali1234> the funny thing about gnome system monitor
[08:24] <ali1234> see those curved graphs?
[08:24] <ali1234> the spline algorithm they use is ridiculously CPU intensive
[08:26] <waltersraspberry> how can i make my own community
[08:26] <ouroumov> ali1234, is there a better alternative? Maybe you can whishlist it?
[08:26] <waltersraspberry> no
[08:26] <ali1234> ouroumov: i reported the bug literally about 8 years ago
[08:27] <waltersraspberry> what a bug
[08:27] <ali1234> there is already better alternative, it's called top
[08:27] <ouroumov> ali1234, I mean to get curved lines
[08:27] <ouroumov> ali1234, where's the bug report?
[08:28] <waltersraspberry> where know a good easter egg on ubuntu mate
[08:29] <alkisg> ali1234: system-monitor is using 1% of my cpu... I wouldn't call that intense
[08:29] <waltersraspberry> :)
[08:30] <waltersraspberry> °°°°°°°
[08:30] <ali1234> here's the main bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-system-monitor/+bug/93847
[08:31] <ouroumov> Fix released?
[08:32] <waltersraspberry> i found that ubuntu have a bit aperreance mac os x
[08:32] <waltersraspberry> mate
[08:32] <alkisg> Fix released in 2013
[08:32] <ali1234> maybe. i havent used gnome since about 2012
[08:32] <waltersraspberry> i found that ubuntu have a bit aperreance mac os x
[08:32] <waltersraspberry> mat
[08:33] <waltersraspberry> on what based ubuntu mate
[08:33] <ali1234> it's not really fixed, CPUs just got faster in nearly 10 years, so now it uses only 2% - 3% instead of 10% - 15%
[08:34] <ali1234> until you run it on a raspberry pi, then it uses a significant % again
[08:34] <alkisg> ali1234: well, a fix was committed and released
[08:34] <ali1234> yeah check the fix
[08:34] <ouroumov> waltersraspberry, please make entire sentences and use punctuation
[08:34] <waltersraspberry> you mean me #ali1234
[08:34] <ali1234> has nothing to do with CPU
[08:34] <alkisg> A pi uses significant % of cpu even for running ls :)
[08:35] <alkisg> Spline algorithms have been running fine since the 8086 era...
[08:35] <ali1234> yeah, which is why this one is so bad
[08:35] <alkisg> I don't see anyone complaining about it, other than you, who are not using it...
[08:35] <ali1234> except for the 10 duplicate bug reports
[08:36] <ali1234> and the person commenting that it is still broken in 2016
[08:36] <alkisg> Which were fix-released in 2013
[08:36] <ali1234> but sure ignore the facts
[08:36] <alkisg> And saying that the splines are not to blame
[08:36] <alkisg> He blames another tab for 5%
[08:36] <ali1234> you can clearly see that they are
[08:36] <ali1234> all you have to do is run it and top at the same time
[08:36] <ali1234> and then switch between the tabs
[08:36] <alkisg> I did
[08:36] <alkisg> 1% cpu, nothing
[08:36] <ali1234> and notice that the one with splines on uses ridiculous amounts of CPU
[08:38] <waltersraspberry> helol
[08:38] <waltersraspberry> hello i have a problem
[08:39] <alkisg> ali1234: on a pi, while watching the processes, I get 40% of one cpu, and while watching the splines, only 30%. So they definately are not to blame.
[08:39] <ali1234> here's the upstream bug where they talk about the CPU usage problem of the graphs. notice it isn't fixed. https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=636343
[08:40] <alkisg> Can you reproduce what you're saying? I can't. End of story until someone here does reproduce it.
[08:41] <alkisg> Request to use other libraries don't prove anything without benchmarks
[08:42] <ouroumov> https://paste.debian.net/hidden/85ff3349/ -> uses less than 5% on my i5 skylake. I guess it's kind of high.
[08:42] <alkisg> From comment 3, "I’m afraid not the graph drawing is consuming CPU, but updating the process list"
[08:42] <alkisg> I don't object to system-monitor consuming more cpu than it needs; I object to blaming the splines
[08:42] <alkisg> at least, I can't verify it
[08:43] <ali1234> did you want until the graph is the width of the window
[08:43] <ali1234> see comment 4
[08:43] <alkisg> It was 1300 pixels wide
[08:43] <ali1234> yeah and how long was the line?
[08:43] <alkisg> I can run "ls" and it will take more cpu
[08:43] <alkisg> It's a pi...
[08:44] <alkisg> About 100 pixels high per graph
[08:44] <ali1234> yeah and how long is the line?
[08:44] <alkisg> The spline? Full width
[08:44] <alkisg> The process tab needs more cpu than the graph tab
[08:45] <alkisg> So if optimization is needed, I don't think the graph tab should be the first thing to look for
[08:45] <ali1234> any type of optimization in g-s-m would be welcomed by its users i'm sure
[08:45] <ali1234> but after 9 years i'm sure they are no longer holding their breath
[08:46] <alkisg> For the 1% cpu it needs in my i5, I certainly don't care if they optimize it more...
[08:47] <alkisg> For the 30% it needs in the pi... well, ls needs more, so I just need to throw away my pi :)
[08:47] <ali1234> for me it uses 3% CPU on the processes tab and 5% on the resources tab
[08:48] <alkisg> Is this on ubuntu-mate 16.04?
[08:48] <alkisg> Or the gnome 3 version?
[08:48] <waltersraspberry> whwn
[08:48] <waltersraspberry> sorry
[08:49] <ali1234> it's gnome-system-monitor on ubuntu 16.04
[08:49] <alkisg> Then the gnome-3 version, with compositors etc, so the graphic stack might be to blame there for the bit higher cpu
[08:49] <waltersraspberry> when is cold i open my window and my pi will not be hot
[08:49] <ali1234> i'm running it in xfce with compositing disabled
[08:50] <ali1234> i'm running it on an i7-6700
[08:50] <alkisg> Maybe you have fewer processes then, or worse graphics card, dunno, that's what I'm seeing here
[08:50] <ali1234> i have a gtx-780
[08:50] <alkisg> i5-4440 here, mate without compositing
[08:50] <alkisg> nouveau or nvidia?
[08:50] <waltersraspberry>  "Really, I'm not out to destroy Microsoft. That will just be a completely unintentional side effect.")
[08:50] <ali1234> now that the graphs fill the whole screen it is using 12% CPU
[08:51] <waltersraspberry>  "Really, I'm not out to destroy Microsoft. That will just be a completely unintentional side effect.")
[08:51] <ali1234> nvidia
[08:52] <alkisg> with fullscreen in the resources tab in 1920, and terminal on lower bottom on top of the monitor window => 2.7 cpu
[08:52] <alkisg> 1920x1080
[08:52] <ali1234> change the update frequency to 0.25 seconds
[08:53] <ali1234> when i do that it uses 40% CPU
[08:53] <alkisg> same with processes tab => 4%
[08:53] <ali1234> process tab never goes over 4% for me
[08:53] <alkisg> So again the processes tab is two times slower than the resources tab
[08:53] <ali1234> yeah for me it's 10x faster
[08:54] <alkisg> Maybe nvidia issues
[08:54] <alkisg> Different drivers get different results in different UI libraries etc
[08:54] <alkisg> E.g. I've seen 100 times faster or slower results on specific x11perf or gtkperf tests,
[08:54] <alkisg> not in general due to the graphics card, but to specific bits, due to unoptimized driver
[08:55] <alkisg> So maybe the bug you're seeking is in nvidia upstream
[08:55] <alkisg> Try comparing gtkperf or x11perf with an intel one
[08:55] <ali1234> wait, are you claiming that nvidia can't handle 4 fps?
[08:55] <ali1234> that seems like a stretch
[08:56] <ouroumov> lol
[08:56] <alkisg> No, I'm claiming that for example putshmimage may be 10 times faster in intel than in nvidia,
[08:56] <alkisg> while, in the same example, the overall score may be higher in nvidia
[08:56] <alkisg> There are specific unoptimized functions that are extremely slow in some drivers
[08:56] <alkisg> I've seen many bugs and fixes for such issues
[08:57] <alkisg> Try x11perf in just 2 pcs with different drivers, you'll see what I'm talking about
[08:57]  * alkisg spent days on such benchmarks
[08:58] <waltersraspberry> here is a long disscusion :)
[08:58] <ali1234> it's definitely a problem with the way the display is rendered
[08:59] <ali1234> the graphs update when you're on another tab but this does not take loads of CPU
[08:59] <waltersraspberry> ;I have a Problem
[09:03] <waltersraspberry> i will ask all what is the best way to lern english vocabulary
[09:03] <alkisg> waltersraspberry: this channel is for supporting ubuntu mate
[09:03] <alkisg> Not for general, offtopic chat
[09:04] <alkisg> Try joining this channel for offtopic chat: #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:04] <waltersraspberry> yes but this help me
[09:04] <alkisg> Yes but you annoy people here if you chat about how you will learn english, so they will ban you
[09:04] <alkisg> There are rules to follow
[09:04] <waltersraspberry> sorry
[09:04] <alkisg> Ask about mate, not whatever comes to your mind
[09:05] <waltersraspberry> :) okay
[09:05] <alkisg> Or join #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:05] <alkisg> People there want to talk to you about how to learn english
[09:05] <waltersraspberry> yes that is my problem
[09:05] <alkisg> So ask them there
[09:05] <alkisg> Type: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:05] <alkisg> And ask there
[09:06] <waltersraspberry> not works
[09:06] <alkisg> Google about how to join irc channels then, you did something wrong
[09:07] <waltersraspberry>  #ubuntu-offtopic :Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[09:08] <alkisg> ali1234: I tried in vbox (which has its own drivers), I'm getting 1% gnome-system-monitor, and 30% compiz (this one in stock ubuntu/unity)
[09:09] <alkisg> So I can't blame gnome-system-monitor, but surely compiz needs a lot of cpu in llvmpipe environments
[09:09] <ali1234> yeah it does
[09:09] <ouroumov> waltersraspberry, see /ns help to register your nickname
[09:11] <waltersraspberry> i have tried
[09:13] <waltersraspberry> its not work
[09:14] <ouroumov> waltersraspberry, ask for assistance on #ubuntu-de
[09:14] <alkisg> ...on how to join #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[09:14] <waltersraspberry> :)
[09:36] <ouroumov> flexiondotorg, hi. Do you need me to do something else regarding that memleak issue? I can attempt to reproduce in other distros if necessary if it's needed.
[09:52] <waltersraspberry> hello
[10:23] <waltersraspberry>  "Really, I'm not out to destroy Microsoft. That will just be a completely unintentional side effect.")
[12:01] <alom> Hi
[12:01] <alom> Every Body How are you ?
[12:08] <neoack> bonjour
[12:08] <neoack> je debute sous linux ubuntu et lors de l'installation je n'ai pas de son pilote ALC282 quelqu'un peut m'aider ?
[12:08] <neoack> SVP
[12:09] <neoack> Hi
[12:09] <neoack> i m beginner in ubuntu but i m no sound after install. My sound driver is ALC282. Help Pls
[12:11] <ouroumov> hi neoack
[12:11] <neoack> hi
[12:11] <neoack> can you help mee lol ?
[12:11] <ouroumov> neoack, I assume you've went around and checked the sound settings?
[12:12] <ouroumov> There's a pane in the sound settings window to select output hardware
[12:12] <neoack> i test alsamixer and lspci but my sound map is reconnized but no sound
[12:14] <neoack> output GK104 hDMI Audio controller Digital Stereo but if i change tou internal audio no osund too
[12:14] <ouroumov> can you provide the output of the following command on pastebin.com? : lshw -C sound
[12:16] <raspberry> hi, does anyone here know how to get ubuntu mate recognise homemade joystick? I connected my joystick to the raspberry via SPI and it works, but I need the system to know that it is a joystick and don't know how to achieve that
[12:16] <neoack> this http://pastebin.com/KVy5YJ5X
[12:17] <ouroumov> raspberry, no idea, maybe ask on our forums? ( https://ubuntu-mate.community/c/support/raspberry-pi-2 )
[12:18] <raspberry> I've posted there yesterday, moreover I've posted on raspberry forum too still no answer :(
[12:18] <ouroumov> so neoack the correct driver is snd_hda_intel
[12:18] <ouroumov> raspberry, well, maybe you just need to give it some time. :x
[12:19] <neoack> ok ty sorry but how to install are you doc or wiki
[12:19] <raspberry> yeah I hope that's the case. It would be sad not to get any response. It's been four days I'm thinking about that problem. Frustrating
[12:19] <ouroumov> neoack, I mean it's the driver you're currently using, you're not using whatever ALC282 is
[12:20] <ouroumov> raspberry, why specifically do you need the device to be recognized as a joystick?
[12:20] <raspberry> to use it with Mission Planner, when the device is recognized as joystick Mission Planner won't need special code to control the drone
[12:23] <ouroumov> raspberry, you're running that under wine on a raspberry?
[12:25] <raspberry> raspberry I've made my own analog joysticks using MCP3008
[12:25] <ouroumov> But the Mission Planner home page says it's Windows software
[12:26] <raspberry> yeah but there is APM planner which some guy made based on Mission Planner and it works on ubuntu mate to make it possible on raspberry
[12:28] <ouroumov> I see someone slapped a "gaming" time on your thread, maybe you could update your post so people better understand what you're trying to do? :/
[12:29] <ouroumov> tag *
[12:32] <raspberry> ok I've updated
[12:50] <ouroumov> raspberry, I've changed the topic on your thread a little for better visibility
[12:52] <raspberry> ok thanks for that
[12:53] <ouroumov> I've also removed the "gaming" tag and added "system" instead
[12:53] <ouroumov> There's no "hardware" tag :/
[12:54] <raspberry> let's hope someone will answer
[15:14] <TwoNotes> Using the "Software Boutique", how do I install a package for ehich I know the name?  There does not seem to be a search function
[16:37] <pavlos> I get this error /usr/share/themes/Radiant-MATE/gtk-2.0/apps/mate-panel.rc:30: error: invalid string constant "scrollbar", expected valid string constant
[16:37] <pavlos> when I try caja smb://somehost
[17:17] <manxboy> hello?
[17:22] <manxboy> hi
[17:22] <DarkPsydeLord> hello
[17:22] <DarkPsydeLord> :)
[17:22] <manxboy> does anyone know where to download ubuntu mate 14.04?
[17:22] <manxboy> I have amd card
[17:22] <manxboy> brb
[17:23] <DarkPsydeLord> currently ubuntu mate 16.04
[17:26] <manxboy> I have an amd Graphics card, which means in order to install the driver, I would need to use 15 or below...
[17:29] <DarkPsydeLord> no open source driver for you then?
[17:30] <DarkPsydeLord> the issue was fglrx
[17:30] <manxboy> I can't get it to work with my card... I have a Radeon HD 6400M/7400M Series card
[17:31] <DarkPsydeLord> https://ubuntu-mate.org/trusty/
[17:32] <manxboy> Thankyou soo much!!!!
[17:32] <manxboy> when I tried to download 15, I got a 404 error...
[17:32] <manxboy> 14 works tho!
[17:32] <manxboy> :)
[17:33] <DarkPsydeLord> yw
[17:34] <manxboy> thanks for the help! I'm going to go install it :) bye!
[17:34] <DarkPsydeLord> :)
[20:43] <Yupy> Hi guys, I want ot install ubuntu-mate 16.10 but ask's for password and username... what is the default username and password?
[20:46] <sixwheeledbeast> Didn't think there was one.
[20:46] <Yupy> strange that is asking for one
[20:46] <sixwheeledbeast> It will be whatever you used in the installer
[20:47] <Yupy> I want to install it and is asking as default for username and password, I want to install it but have no clue what is the username and password
[20:47] <Grorco> Hi!
[20:49] <Grorco> does anyone know a way to customize the workspaces I would like 3 in the top row, and 1 in the bottom that I can ctrl+alt+down to get to from any of the others
[21:01] <sixwheeledbeast> Isn't it the installer asking you to create a username and password?
[21:02] <Yupy> nope, when I add a certain username or password say's: password incorect... actually first time ask me for a password and username, I cannot see the installer
[21:02] <sixwheeledbeast> Have you checked the preferences for workspaces, right click the switcher?
[21:03] <sixwheeledbeast> I don't believe there is a default password the installer asks to set one on installation AFAIK
[21:04] <Yupy> TY for the reply, I will try what is here... https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/live-session-password/7219
[21:07] <sixwheeledbeast> oh live session, that makes sense
[23:37] <deckler-vlad> HI