[00:00] <bluez-harp> Hi, I'm trying to add to my path  using PATH=$PATH:$HOME/adb  When I chk the .profile file  in my home directory the path statement isn't updated. What am I doing wrong?
[00:00] <ipodshuffle4g> I'm still looking for a media player solution for ipod shuffle 4g that has voiceover
[00:01] <ipodshuffle4g> so far all I've come across is itunes and it runs like shit on ubuntu
[00:01] <rklopfer_> bluez-harp, try 'export PATH-$PATH:$HOME/adb' ?
[00:01] <rklopfer_> whoops PATH=
[00:02] <rklopfer_> bluez-harp, and you need to add that line to your ~/.profile
[00:19] <algern-n> hei
[00:19] <algern-n> I'm trying to access ftp on an ubuntu server
[00:19] <algern-n> Do i need to open the port 21 to do that?
[00:19] <algern-n> as I keep getting access denied
[00:25] <michael_mbp> hi all, what's the best file format to use between windows/linux, exfat, ntfs?
[00:26] <fione> not exfat?
[00:26] <dax> FAT for < 4GB files on normal drive sizes, NTFS otherwise
[00:26] <bazhang> michael_mbp, whats the file sizes to be shared
[00:27] <michael_mbp> over the 4G limit of fat32
[00:27] <bazhang> so ntfs
[00:27] <michael_mbp> reasoning behind that?
[00:27] <bazhang> files size
[00:28] <gamester> how do I gain root privilege in nautilus? Say if I want to create folder in /opt
[00:28] <michael_mbp> what about exfat?
[00:28] <michael_mbp> why ntfs > exfat in this instant?
[00:30] <michael_mbp> suppose that ubuntu doesn't have 'out of the box' support exfat is a reason.
[00:31] <dax> it's newer, nothing really supports it, and it's patent encumbered
[00:32] <Bashing-om> michael_mbp: See: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314463 why the 4Gig limit .
[00:33] <michael_mbp> Mac OS is able to format partitions as exFat now.
[00:33] <michael_mbp> hmm.
[00:33] <dax> huh, didn't know that
[00:34] <dax> shows how up-to-date my mac stuff is :)
[00:34] <michael_mbp> heh I thought it was being widely adopted
[00:34] <michael_mbp> as I've had a few folks bring USB sticks with the same file format.
[00:49] <holymac> Hi.
[00:50] <holymac> I am trying to send an automated email to 100 people at 12:00 AM.
[00:50] <holymac> I have done this: Edit crontab file using the following command:
[00:50] <holymac> crontab -e
[00:50] <holymac> 0    24    *    *    *    <complete path to the script>
[00:51] <holymac> The script I want to run is: echo "This is the message body" | mutt -a "/path/to/file.to.attach" -s "subject of message" user@example.com
[00:51] <holymac> In order to do 100 emails I want to replace user@example.com with this command :cat emaillist.txt | sed ':a;N;$!ba;s/\n/,/g'
[00:52] <holymac> That last command replaces newlines with commas.
[00:52] <holymac> How do I feed this to mutt?
[00:55] <fione> say, holymac. I'm not knowledgeable in ubuntu. But what you want to do is looping the address list?
[00:56] <holymac> Yea. I want to make one sommand
[00:56] <holymac> command*
[00:57] <PussySlayer69> hey guysss
[00:57] <_adb> holymac, xargs?
[00:58] <PussySlayer69> someone knows how to test the webcam in a netbook with ubuntu?
[01:00] <holymac> fione I have never used xargs.
[01:01] <fione> so... just use python?
[01:01] <kulyzu> $ cat -         # what does it mean
[01:02] <fione> kulyzu concatenate, iirc.
[01:02] <SchrodingersScat> kulyzu: i believe it means to cat out stdin, which doesn't make much sense to me, but ok.
[01:02] <export> the hyphen means the current stdout i think.
[01:02] <SchrodingersScat> maybe it cats the file that's passed from stdin?
[01:02] <SchrodingersScat> lets find out!
[01:03] <SchrodingersScat> right, i mean the piped stdout
[01:03] <kulyzu> i saw an examle like this one:  $ php -r 'echo str_repeat("A", 52) . "\xbe\xba\xfe\xca";'; cat -
[01:03] <SchrodingersScat> yep, just regular old catting std
[01:03] <kulyzu> i don't understand what cat - at the end mean's?
[01:04] <SchrodingersScat> kulyzu: so for example, if you run:  echo "Test." | cat -  #then it should just echo "Test." afaik.
[01:04] <export> i've had to use that for scripts, but not much else.
[01:04] <SchrodingersScat> yeah? when does that come up?
[01:04] <cyberoot> aa
[01:04] <cyberoot> a
[01:05] <export> i think i used it to manipulate data i recieved from an ssh session within a script. can't remember though.
[01:05] <SchrodingersScat> ok
[01:05] <eve_> what is this ?
[01:06] <SchrodingersScat> !ubuntu | eve_
[01:06] <SchrodingersScat> !support | eve_
[01:06] <eve_> are indonesian have server?
[01:07] <eve_> must i install antivirus in linux ?
[01:07] <SchrodingersScat> !indonesia | eve_
[01:07] <eve_> thanks you
[01:07] <SchrodingersScat> eve_: not normally, no.  Normally not unless you want to scan files for worse operating systems.
[01:07] <SchrodingersScat> !virus | eve_
[01:07] <Kurowa> test
[01:08] <eve_> wow linux is very strong right ?
[01:08] <duckx0r> If I execute `dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.5` does that delete all databases?
[01:09] <SchrodingersScat> eve_: it's more about where and how you get software, you could easily accidentally run something bad, but if you stick to the !repositories then you should be good to go.
[01:09] <eve_> thank you
[01:10] <SchrodingersScat> eve_: welcome
[01:10] <eve_> oh one thing . how to connected emma to mysql on lammp ?
[01:12] <SchrodingersScat> !man | eve_ I've never used that myself, but have you checked out the manual?
[01:13] <eve_> ok
[01:13] <SchrodingersScat> so to bring up the manual for emma it should be: man emma
[01:15] <Tigarblood> Help please. I'm trying to add a nan additional hard drive (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingANewHardDrive). However, im not sure what type of partition table to use (msdos?). (see: http://askubuntu.com/questions/488213/how-to-add-a-second-hard-drive-to-an-already-installed-xubuntu-14-04)
[01:17] <Bashing-om> Tigarblood: That type of partition table depends on several factors . Primarily .. is this a EFI endowed system ?
[01:18] <tyler_d> nothing is ever broken when I'm livestreaming
[01:18] <tyler_d> Hello anyways
[01:20] <Tigarblood> Bashing-om: Not really sure what you mean
[01:21] <Tigarblood> Bashing-om: its an additional harddrive for extra storage, if that helps.
[01:23] <Bashing-om> Tigarblood: If this is a newer model machine, where it is EFI .. then there are performance gains with the GPT partitioning scheme .
[01:24] <Bashing-om> !efi | Tigarblood
[01:25] <spikexh4x> hello
[01:27] <Tigarblood> Bashing-om: so GPT will be good for an additional storage harddrive?
[01:27] <Tigarblood> Bashing-om: i will be only using it for ubuntu
[01:28] <Bashing-om> Tigarblood: Yeah .. block size 4096 rather than 512 . Faster I/O .. and supports 128 partitions by default .
[01:29] <amed> hi, i have a problem
[01:29] <Bashing-om> !ask | amed
[01:30] <amed> i burned debian iso in usb, but i need a firmware, how to?
[01:30] <amed> how to insert firmware in the usb?
[01:31] <Bashing-om> !debian | amed
[01:32] <Snackerr> how do you calculate the number of bits in a number, in ubuntu calculator?
[01:32] <Snackerr> i think it  is log2N
[01:32] <Snackerr> but how do you type that into the calculator?   like   log2(128)?
[01:32] <Bashing-om> amed: THough we are kin to debian .. we can not support debian .. inquire in their channel for debian support .
[01:32] <Snackerr> that doesn't work
[01:33] <Snackerr> log(2)128 doesnt work either
[01:33] <Tigarblood> Bashing-om: what file system would you recommend for this additional harddrive. Im inclined to go ext4.
[01:36] <Tigarblood> Bashing-om: the guide (ubuntu official) says choose ext3, but maybe ext4 is more appropriate nowerdays
[01:39] <Snackerr> Bashing-om, i like ext4 the best, with GPT, and $     mkfs.ext4 -m0 -I131072
[01:39] <Snackerr> http://www.explainshell.com/explain?cmd=mke2fs+-m0+-I131072
[01:40] <Snackerr> Bashing-om, ext4 is better than ext3.  that guide is probly old
[01:41] <Bashing-om> Tigarblood: ^^ +10 on ext4 .. tried, true and tested .. ext4 is the work horse .
[01:43] <lordcirth> ext4's only downside is being boring.  It is never a bad choice.
[01:45] <Snackerr> lordcirth, boring is good
[01:45] <lordcirth> Snackerr, when it comes to filesystems, yes
[01:45] <trism> Snackerr: log(128)/log(2)
[01:45] <Snackerr> i got sucked into reading about ZFS,--- sounds super cool, BUT:  has lots of "gotchas"
[01:46] <Snackerr> which i just discovered, are called "gotchas"  not "bugs", you know why?
[01:46] <Snackerr> cuz the devs have no intention on fixing them  LOL
[01:47] <Snackerr> trism,  cool!!! thanks!  also, is there an easy way to do that same thing in Bash?
[01:49] <Snackerr> ZFS "gotcha" 1)  need ECC RAM   2) unclean shutdown can destroy your data   3)  gets fragmented, and is impossible to defrag
[01:50] <Snackerr> also, no ZFS encryption,  but i think that is coming soon
[01:50] <Snackerr> btw, how is the EXT4 file-encryption? does that work yet?
[01:50] <Rebelnet> hello
[01:51] <Kurowa> anyone have recommendation on similar application to ManicTime in windows?
[01:52] <Kurowa> hello
[01:54] <lordcirth> Snackerr, the "need ECC RAM" is actually quite exaggerated.
[01:55] <Snackerr> lordcirth,   this guy is the expert, not me:  https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzHapVfrocfwblFvMVdvQ2ZqTGM
[01:55] <Snackerr> http://whenpicsfly.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Intro-to-ZFS-on-Linux.pdf
[01:56] <trism> Snackerr: bc -l <<<'l(128)/l(2)'
[01:57] <Snackerr> thanks again bash master trism !
[02:11] <al2o3-cr> Snackerr: if you want a pure bash version create a function
[02:13] <lordcirth> trism, what exactly does '<<<' do?  I am familiar with the usual >, >>, <.
[02:14] <lordcirth> is 'cmd <<< x' it equivalent to  'cmd < echo x' ?
[02:15] <al2o3-cr> lordcirth: it's a heredoc redirection
[02:15] <al2o3-cr> here string, sorry
[02:16] <lordcirth> al2o3-cr, thanks, just looked it up.  Unfortunately '<<<' is impossible to search for
[02:16] <al2o3-cr> lordcirth: np
[02:20] <dwarders> I have a question about hosting apt-get repos.
[02:21] <dwarders> I'm building a debian package and I want to pin a specific version of a dependency so I'm using (= 1.11.2-0~xenial) in my control file. when I apt-get install my package, i'm getting the error "Depends: ... (= 1.11.2-0~xenial) but 1.12.0-0~xenial is to be installed" even though apt-cache madison and apt-cache seem to show that the older version I'm looking
[02:21] <dwarders> for still exists
[02:22] <dwarders> any pointers on how to resolve this?
[02:22] <dwarders> google search seems to point mostly towards solutions for people running into this that aren't owners of the broken package
[02:25] <lordcirth> dwarders, it's possible that other packages require > 1.12 of the dependency?
[02:25] <lordcirth> dwarders, try looking for reverse dependencies
[02:27] <arooni> how do i generate a ssh key for version 2?
[02:27] <dwarders> lordcirth: the other package is not installed so I don't know how that would be the case.
[02:28] <lordcirth> arooni, it does by default now.  Check manual page for ssh-keygen, search /version 2
[02:32] <arooni> so why am i getting this when trying to connect? debug3: Could not load "/home/username/.ssh/id_rsa" as a RSA1 public key
[02:32] <arooni> if protcol defaults to version 2
[02:35] <lordcirth> arooni, is the server old?  It might be asking for version 1?
[02:36] <arooni> lordcirth: server is mac os x el capitan latest
[02:36] <arooni> so i bet its a firewall issue
[02:36] <arooni> with me not alllowing external ssh connections
[02:37] <arooni> i forgot how i set that all up though;  how can i check how my firewall might block this
[02:37] <lordcirth> arooni, on the mac server or linux client?
[02:37] <arooni> lordcirth: on the linux client
[02:37] <arooni> (ubuntu 14.04 lts server)
[02:38] <lordcirth> arooni, well, if it's Ubuntu, you probably used ufw
[02:39] <BluezHarp> Hi, I was editing the .profile file w/ gedit. I'm receiving a syntax error unexpected end of file. I can't find how to fix it
[02:39] <arooni> lordcirth: so is that version stuff enough to make the ssh connection fail?
[02:39] <BluezHarp> Would someone give it  a look?  http://dpaste.com/1TDBQM5
[02:40] <lordcirth> BluezHarp, "if running bash" should probably be commented, as there is no "fi" and it's not coherent bash
[02:41] <Guest23621> hi
[02:41] <lordcirth> BluezHarp, for future reference, "unexpected end of file" means you started something (if, function, loop) and didn't end it.
[02:41] <lordcirth> MrRobotic, hi
[02:42] <MrRobotic> yo
[02:42] <KEYCTO> clear
[02:43] <BluezHarp> I modified the file that came with the distro.  Bash doesn't use  fi?
[02:44] <lordcirth> BluezHarp, Bash does have fi.  Look at line 11,  "if running bash".  You start an if statement because you didn't comment that line.
[02:44] <lordcirth> And since it was unintentional, you don't have a matching "fi" so that's why you get that particular error
[02:46] <BluezHarp> ok, I'm not running bash as the default shell in ubuntu?
[02:47] <lordcirth> BluezHarp, You are running bash.  Are you not familiar with the idea of comments in code?
[02:48] <Mitchell92> Hello. I bought a laptop for the Fall semester that I loaded Linux up on. HP claims the battery lasts 11 hours 45 minutes. Is there anything I Can do to maximize battery life?
[02:48] <lordcirth> Mitchell92, lower screen brightness, power management settings, set 'powertop --auto-tune' to run on boot or login
[02:49] <ExecSlim> !battery
[02:49] <Makulit> I thought 11 hours out of a laptop battery would be pretty impressive.
[02:49] <BluezHarp> I see what your saying about line 11.  Thx. very much.
[02:49] <Mitchell92> lordcirth, thanks... is there a utility i can use to set powertop, how do i do such?
[02:49] <lordcirth> Mitchell92, the utility is called powertop.  You just need to install the package
[02:50] <Mitchell92> okay, thanks. how do i set that to run on login?
[02:50] <ExecSlim> Mitchell92: try installing tlp and run tlp start when on battery
[02:51] <Mitchell92> ok
[02:51] <Mitchell92> I'll be taking it to class in a week or two and I just wanted to have everything running in a satisfactory manner.
[02:51] <lordcirth> Never seen tlp before.  Looks quite useful.
[02:52] <arooni> ok so i can't connect from ubuntu 14.04 lts server to a mac mini... i'm getting this error debug3: Incorrect rsa1 identifier; could not load '/home/user/.ssh/id_rsa' as a rsa1 public key
[02:52] <lordcirth> arooni, try using ssh -2 to force version 2, see what happens
[02:54] <arooni> lordcirth: i.e. ssh -2 -vvvvvv -p 22222 user@host ?
[02:55] <q_plaz> Anyone here use Ubuntu gnome? And familiar with the difference between it and standard Ubuntu
[02:55] <lordcirth> arooni, that's a lot of v's but sure
[02:55] <arooni> trying to track down the problem
[02:55] <lordcirth> q_plaz, what's your actual question?
[02:55] <q_plaz> I want to know what I'm giving up by using the gnome version
[02:56] <tgm4883> q_plaz: unity
[02:56] <q_plaz> I'm not so much concerned about hardware compatibility but I don't want to install it and realize some packages are out of date and whatnot
[02:56] <MrRobotic> use linux mint mate 64 bit
[02:57] <q_plaz> If that's all tgm4883 then I'm all about it, thanks
[03:00] <useLinuxMintMate> :)
[03:06]  * useLinuxMintMate :-)
[03:11] <teknozulu> Hey. A while ago I set the custom command of my default gnome terminal profile to SSH to a box. That IP no longer exists (or even if it does, i don't want to attempt to connect to it). However, I did this in Xmonad, and now if I try to open a new window in Xmonad, it'll just close immediately (I managed to see a bit of the MITM warning). I switched from xmonad to gnome to attempt to change the profile, but when I'm in gnome there is only one terminal
[03:11] <teknozulu> profile, and it doesn't use a custom command. Any ideas on where I should look for the profile config that has the ssh command?
[03:12]  * useLinuxMintMate ;)
[03:12] <Obadiah> yeeehaw!!!!!!
[03:12] <lordcirth> useLinuxMintMate, don't spam
[03:13] <Obadiah> lubuntu is awsum'
[03:13] <lordcirth> teknozulu, try 'grep -r <IP> ~/' :P
[03:13] <lordcirth> grep -r is my favourite config-file-finding tool
[03:14] <nemeci> hi ubuntu users
[03:14] <useLinuxMintMate> huh? :)
[03:15] <useLinuxMintMate> hi
[03:15] <teknozulu> yay found it
[03:15] <teknozulu> ty lordcirth lol
[03:16] <lordcirth> teknozulu, also in future, you might find it useful to use " ssh IP || bash " :)
[03:16] <teknozulu> how so? (I'm a complete linux idiot)
[03:17] <lordcirth> teknozulu, || is boolean OR.  So, ssh to IP, if that exits with an error, run bash.
[03:17] <lordcirth> Thereby not locking you out
[03:17] <teknozulu> ah, thanks
[03:18] <rklopfer_> grep -rP
[03:19] <lordcirth> rklopfer_, why -P?
[03:19] <ovrflw0x> sup dawgs
[03:19] <ovrflw0x> whose alive!?
[03:19] <rklopfer_> perl has the dopest regular expressions
[03:20] <ovrflw0x> sup dawgs!! gimme 5!
[03:20] <rklopfer_> where dopest == industry standard
[03:21] <rklopfer_> where industry standard == broadly accepted :P
[03:22] <lordcirth> rklopfer_, except that there is no pattern matching involved, since we are matching an exact substring, and therefore using any regex is overkill
[03:25] <rklopfer_> lordcirth, yeah. you're right. i always use -P since it always works as i expect
[03:25] <rklopfer_> lordcirth, maybe that's overkill, but i am okay with that sacrifice for convienience :)
[03:26]  * Cryptic-Infidel_ f
[03:29] <LinuxMintUser> bored
[03:38] <mankeletor> hey there
[03:38] <mankeletor> should i downgrade to get avidemux? im using xenial
[03:41] <mankeletor_> should i downgrade to get avidemux?
[03:41] <lordcirth> !patience | mankeletor_
[03:41] <Y4kuzi> I am hungry
[03:42] <mankeletor_> lordcirth, thanks for the botmessage :P
[03:42] <lordcirth> mankeletor_, you could, or you could try Kdenlive, it's popular
[03:43] <lordcirth> Downgrading is usually a thing to avoid
[03:43] <mankeletor_> lordcirth, it's cool... i used it years ago
[03:46] <mankeletor_> lordcirth, i have to install the entire OS again when i get the upgrade combo for this PC.. that is why i'm asking for, so i'll have to say goodbye to the old pata hdd :(
[03:47] <lordcirth> mankeletor_, I would strongly suggest trying the new version of Kdenlive and using 16.04 if it works for you.
[03:50] <mankeletor_> lordcirth, ok, i'll still using xenial when i get the combo.. dunno if will work nice on the current pc (it's a Intel Celeron single core 1GB DDR1)
[03:55] <BluezHarp> anyone familar with Android command line platform tools? I trying to find the install instructions. The only thing I can find are references to how to install the full sdk. I've already downloaded the package but it is in a zip file. How do I instlall  it?
[04:08] <Kurowa> hello.
[04:09] <Kurowa> any way to get current active window?
[04:09] <mankeletor_> Kurowa, hi
[04:10] <Kurowa> the pid.
[04:10] <mankeletor_> Kurowa, top?
[04:11] <Kurowa> mankeletor_, to filter it to current active window?
[04:13] <mankeletor_> Kurowa, maybe you should try ps aux | tail
[04:14] <Kurowa> ok, I think I misunderstand the definition of active window.
[04:15] <Kurowa> what I want to do is creating a log of timestamp, command, and active windows title.
[04:16] <Kurowa> the timestamp is created on the moment the windows become active.
[04:17] <Kurowa> Or I could save all this hassle and try to search for manicTime alternative.
[04:18] <mankeletor> Kurowa, well i dont know how to do that
[04:19] <mankeletor> if youre writing a shell script you shoud ask in #bash
[04:20] <Kurowa> ok... first thing to do. learn shell.
[04:20] <Kurowa> thanks mankeletor
[04:21] <mankeletor> Kurowa, no problem
[04:21] <Kurowa> any recommended books?
[04:21] <Kurowa> for shell
[04:21] <Kurowa> for shell scripting
[04:22] <Bashing-om> Kurowa: A favorite : http://mywiki.wooledge.org/FullBashGuide .
[04:40] <ubuntu965> HELP
[04:41] <cfhowlett> !ask | ubuntu965
[04:43] <ubuntu965> Is it possible to install Ubuntu 16.04 on an Acer C710 Chromebook or do I need to install Ubuntu 12.04 on my Acer C710 Chromebook?
[04:44] <cfhowlett> should be entirely possible.  google it up for details
[04:45] <ksft_> I just left something on my keyboard that was apparently holding down a key in the password box
[04:46] <ksft_> it's filled with dots now
[04:46] <ksft_> I can't log in
[04:46] <ubuntu965> I found info on installing 12.04, but not 16.04 on my acer C710 Chromebook
[04:46] <cfhowlett> ksft_, reboot or delete all the dots
[04:46] <ksft_> cfhowlett: I can't
[04:46] <ksft_> I can't delete the dots, that is
[04:46] <ksft_> I know I could reboot, but I would prefer not to
[04:47] <ksft_> restarting X would probably work, but I'd rather not close everything I have running
[04:47] <cfhowlett> ubuntu965, http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=acer_c720_ubuntu1404&num=1
[04:48] <OerHeks> ksft_, ctrl a - ctrl x and try again
[04:48] <ubuntu965> yeah, but I have an acer C710 not a c720...does it matter?
[04:49] <ksft_> OerHeks: ctrl-a doesn't seem to do anything
[04:49] <cfhowlett> ubuntu965, time to try.  at worst, it won't work.
[04:50] <OerHeks> hold ctrl + backspace, else good luck
[04:50] <ubuntu965> thanks...I am gonna install Chrubuntu 16.04
[04:53] <ksft_> OerHeks: yeah, I don't think I can manipulate the text in the password box at all
[04:54] <ksft_> oh well
[04:57] <ubuntu965> cfhowlett will let you know the results
[04:58] <cfhowlett> ubuntu965, best of luck!
[04:58] <ubuntu965> danke
[05:01] <glitchd> hello all
[05:02] <glitchd> 16.04.1 has a hell of a problem with the clock in the top panel
[05:02] <glitchd> whenever i try to set it, then close the closk gui, the clock itself disappears. the placeholder is still ther but nothing is displayed.
[05:02] <cfhowlett> glitchd, relevant details: you are using XUBUNTU not UBUNTU?
[05:03] <glitchd> cfhowlett, well, im using ubuntu 16.04
[05:03] <cfhowlett> you posted first in xubuntu
[05:03] <glitchd> .*16.04.1 with xubuntu-desktop
[05:03] <cfhowlett> yes, so taht means you are on XUBUNTU.
[05:04] <glitchd> i hit enter before i was done typing just now
[05:04] <cfhowlett> different clock app
[05:04] <glitchd> ok..?
[05:04] <cfhowlett> glitchd, so someone is xubuntu is attempting to help you.  please avoid cross-posting
[05:06] <glitchd> cfhowlett, honestly i thought i had closed that room, and i didnt see that someone had responded to me. i also thought it would be relevent since im using base ubuntu with xubuntu-desktop
[05:07] <cfhowlett> glitchd, no problems.  be aware that the the clock (and other ) app is different across the various flavors
[05:08] <glitchd> cfhowlett, i did not know that, thank you for telling me.
[05:08] <cfhowlett> best of luck!
[05:08] <glitchd> many thanks
[05:52] <ubuntubuck> hello, I'm wonderingif it is possible to sync Ipod shuffle 4g with ubuntu
[05:52] <ubuntubuck> I'm looking to include voiceover support :)
[05:53] <hateball> !ipod | ubuntubuck
[05:55] <ubuntubuck> nope
[05:55] <ubuntubuck> doesn't help
[06:17] <p5eudo> if I've edited a python script which runs as a service and runs at boot, do I need to update any other files to keep it working properly?
[06:18] <radkish> server irc.all4y.net
[06:34] <Xin> hey is there a script I can modify that runs for every user - even ssh users?
[06:34] <Xin> or - alternatively, to set a new universal HOME directory
[06:35] <Xin> I use multiple users on this dev vm and I want all of them to have the same HOME
[06:35] <Wug> You could probably do something like force ssh to run a specific command (in the sshd config) that runs your one script and then calls the user's shell
[06:35] <Xin> actually do you know what ill just mount it in the right place lol
[06:35] <Xin> dont mind me
[06:38] <vern__> hello, do anyone try to install openstack on ppc64el, by following this guide (https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/clouddocs/installer/en/single-install.html) ?
[06:38] <vern__> i am blocked by "$ sudo openstack-install"
[06:40] <anonymous_> hi
[06:40] <huhr> hi
[06:43] <mgedmin> can anyone help me recover from a broken 14.04 -> 16.04 release upgrade?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+bug/1613970
[06:52] <ryqiem> Hey guys! I'm trying to get some JSON data from Toggl and export it as calendar events directly into Google Calendar. I've got a bash script that exports the data now as "description,start,end", but I'm in way over my head.
[06:52] <ryqiem> Can any of you guys help me out? 😊
[06:54]  * YankDownUnder checks the channel topic again, just to be sure
[06:54] <barq> I get frequent plasma crashes Executable: plasmashell PID: 3393 Signal: Segmentation fault (11)  on 16.04.1. How can I fix this?
[06:55] <nik3> Who uses ubuntu 2.2
[06:55] <YankDownUnder> barq: What I ended up doing (not that it fixed EVERYTHING with Plasmashell) is to use the "backports" PPA to upgrade Plasma...
[06:55] <bekks> nik3: There is no such thing.
[06:56] <barq> YankDownUnder: How do I use that?
[06:56] <nik3> Im sorry i red it somewhere...thanks for clearing my doubt
[06:57] <alkisg> mgedmin: you can find util-linux.postinst in /var/lib/dpkg/info/util-linux.postinst. Put an "exit 0" at the second line of that file, so that it allows apt install -f to finish.
[06:57] <barq> sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports ?
[06:57] <mgedmin> thanks, alkisg
[06:58] <alkisg> mgedmin: if other packages have the same issue, then maybe an update-rc.d wrapper would be better
[06:58] <mgedmin> I've discovered that if I dpkg --purge usplash and readahead (which aren't in xenial anyway), the initscript dependency loops go away and dpkg --configure succeeds
[06:58] <nik3> How to patch ssh username enumeration vulnerability
[06:58] <YankDownUnder> barq: Read this: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/plasma-5-6-5-and-frameworks-5-23-now-in-backports-for-kubuntu-16-04/
[06:58] <mgedmin> was worried there for a while, when my usual dpkg --configure -a/apt-get dist-upgrade -f workarounds were making no progress
[06:58] <bekks> nik3: Which CVE do you refer to?
[06:59] <barq> OK I was on http://kubuntu.org/news/plasma-5-6-4-available-in-16-04-backports/
[06:59] <mgedmin> http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-3061-1/ (CVE-2016-6210) probably
[07:00] <barq> Cannot add PPA: 'ppa:~kubuntu-ppa/ubuntu/backports'
[07:00] <bekks> nik3: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-3061-1/ states what you need to do to patch that vulnerability.
[07:01] <hateball> barq: it would seem there is a problem with the xenial builds gone missing
[07:01] <YankDownUnder> barq: It ends up getting you to do the same thing - I was merely giving you more reading before you went ahead...and here's a great hint about it - LOGOUT of KDE/Plasma...do it from either a different account, or from the console as root...and reboot...and you're going to get some "strange" things, with Plasma - and you might have to delete some configs for Plasma in order for it to play nicely...hmm...
[07:01] <nik3> Its CVE: 2016-6210
[07:02] <bekks> nik3: So please read the link given.
[07:02] <nik3> Thanks bekks
[07:02] <barq> hateball: What can I do about that?
[07:02] <YankDownUnder> barq: It's "sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports"
[07:03] <barq> Cannot add PPA: 'ppa:~kubuntu-ppa/ubuntu/backports'. ERROR: '~kubuntu-ppa' user or team does not exist.
[07:03] <YankDownUnder> barq: I just told you: sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
[07:03] <hateball> barq: you're adding a ~ for no good reason
[07:03] <barq> I copy pasted your command
[07:04] <hateball> at any rate, a user in #kubuntu was doing this yesterday and it seems the xenial builds have gone missing
[07:04] <barq> I copy pasted your command
[07:04] <hateball> I added the PPA months ago
[07:04] <barq> I'm not adding anything YankDownUnder
[07:05] <barq> I upgraded by mounting a different volume containing xenial
[07:05] <barq> I didn't do-release-upgrade
[07:05] <YankDownUnder> barq: I don't know where the "~" came from, cuz I just double checked and it wasn't in what I've "pasted"...either which, easy enough to just do it by hand --> type it out exactly...
[07:06] <barq> sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
[07:06] <barq> That's what I have
[07:06] <alkisg> barq: put both the command and the output to pastebin
[07:06] <YankDownUnder> ...and that should work straight out, barq
[07:06] <alkisg> By copy/pasting from your terminal screen
[07:07] <barq> https://ghostbin.com/paste/r9zwg
[07:08] <alkisg> You didn't copy/paste from your terminal, I don't see the bash prompt...
[07:08] <barq> There's a $ right before that statement
[07:08] <barq> Sure I copied from terminal
[07:08] <alkisg> Anyway, try with another environment: sudo -i
[07:08] <alkisg> And then inside there: apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
[07:09] <barq> Same thing happens with sudo -i
[07:09] <alkisg> Hmm can you also try avoiding bash?
[07:09] <alkisg> Run: sh
[07:09] <alkisg> And inside there: sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
[07:10] <barq> Same thing there as well
[07:10] <EriC^^> it doesn't have any ppa's, https://launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa
[07:10] <EriC^^> it's empty for some reason
[07:10] <mgedmin> strange; https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports exists
[07:11] <alkisg> That command succeeds here
[07:11] <EriC^^> try manually adding it, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list.d/kubuntu-ppa.list
[07:11] <EriC^^> and add the line below
[07:12] <mgedmin> multiple desynchronized web server backends?
[07:12]  * alkisg wonders if it's due to different regions getting different web servers, cache etc
[07:12] <EriC^^> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu xenial main
[07:12] <alkisg> Does that command fail for anyone else?
[07:12] <alkisg> barq, which apt-add-repository version do you have? dpkg -l software-properties-common
[07:13] <barq> sources.list.d is empty. I only have sources.list
[07:13] <barq>  0.96.20.4
[07:14] <alkisg> ...where did you find that .4?
[07:14] <barq> I just ran the command
[07:15] <barq> Didn't install anything manually
[07:15] <alkisg> barq: it appears that you have the xenial-proposed repository enabled
[07:15] <alkisg> And you might have hit a bug in the proposed package
[07:15] <alkisg> Can you try downgrading to the correct one?
[07:15] <anonymous_> wahts up all
[07:15] <barq> How do I do that
[07:15] <alkisg> sudo apt install software-properties-common=0.96.20.3
[07:15] <anonymous_> ok
[07:15] <alkisg> and then sudo add-apt-repository etc
[07:16] <alkisg> barq: in general, it's not a good idea to have the proposed directory enabled; you get a lot of bugs. Usually we only selectively apply updates from there.
[07:16] <alkisg> *proposed repository
[07:17] <barq> I get https://ghostbin.com/paste/th7zs when I try the downgrade
[07:17] <barq> Which directory?
[07:17] <alkisg> barq: in the same apt install line, add: python3-software-properties=0.96.20.3
[07:18] <barq> oh the *-proposed
[07:18] <alkisg> barq, yup, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed after the issue is solved
[07:18] <alkisg> ...and disable it :D
[07:18] <barq> I had proposed in my sources.list, commented it out
[07:19] <EriC^^> same thing
[07:19] <alkisg> barq: you still need to downgrade the updates you already applied. Some of them will have bugs and will never be officially published...
[07:19] <EriC^^> barq: try using ppa-purge to purge the -proposed repo
[07:19] <EriC^^> cause all the packages are still installed at this point
[07:20] <barq> I downgraded and did the ppa-purge
[07:20] <alkisg> Does add-apt-repository now work ok?
[07:21] <barq> No, same as before
[07:21] <EriC^^> barq: how did you ppa-purge it?
[07:22] <barq> Also after adding the ppa to my sources.list and doing an udpate I get https://ghostbin.com/paste/dc32f
[07:22] <barq> sudo apt install ppa-purge
[07:23] <EriC^^> that doesn't purge anything it installs the ppa-purge package
[07:23] <alkisg> barq: about your latest ghostbin, that's normal, it's because you added it without add-apt-repository so you didn't fetch the appropriate apt key
[07:24] <alkisg> You probably still have some broken packages from proposed
[07:24] <alkisg> And those break add-apt-repository, and who knows what else
[07:24] <prashant> hi
[07:24] <alkisg> Hello
[07:25] <barq> After sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu xenial main" I get the same ghostbin error as before with the pubkey
[07:25] <EriC^^> barq: type ls /var/lib/apt/lists/*proposed*
[07:25] <EriC^^> and paste in the pastebin
[07:25] <alkisg> barq, yes because that form doesn't add the key
[07:26] <barq> ls: cannot access '/var/lib/apt/lists/*proposed*': No such file or directory
[07:27] <barq> How can I purge proposed?
[07:27] <EriC^^> barq: did you remove the -proposed ppa from the software center or so?
[07:27] <EriC^^> barq: we're on it :)
[07:28] <barq> Yes, I removed the proposed from my sources.list
[07:28] <EriC^^> ok put it back there again and run update
[07:28] <EriC^^> also remove the kubuntu-ppa.list
[07:29] <barq> OK, I ran the update
[07:29] <EriC^^> ok run the ls command again
[07:31] <barq> https://ghostbin.com/paste/28snz
[07:31] <alkisg> barq: grep ^Package: /var/lib/apt/lists/*proposed*_Packages
[07:31] <alkisg> I think that lists the packages from proposed
[07:31] <alkisg> (that you need to downgrade)
[07:32] <barq> That's a lot of packages
[07:32] <EriC^^> 1 sec barq
[07:34] <barq> This is my sources.list btw https://ghostbin.com/paste/c4wyo
[07:34] <lol521>   x
[07:35] <EriC^^> barq: try sudo ppa-purge -s mirrors.coopvgg.com.ar_ubuntu_dists -o xenial-proposed -p universe
[07:36] <barq> OK, that ran successfully
[07:36] <barq> Now remove proposed from sources.list?
[07:36] <featurive> quick q, any of you know if I can upgrade from elementalos freya to loki?
[07:37] <EriC^^> barq: no
[07:37] <EriC^^> barq: try sudo ppa-purge -s mirrors.coopvgg.com.ar_ubuntu_dists -o xenial-proposed -p multiverse
[07:38] <super> hello
[07:38] <EriC^^> barq: then try sudo ppa-purge -s mirrors.coopvgg.com.ar_ubuntu_dists -o xenial-proposed -p main
[07:39] <barq> done
[07:39] <EriC^^> barq: ok, remove the ppa from software center and update
[07:39] <barq> The two proposed lines?
[07:39] <EriC^^> yeah
[07:39] <karolherbst_work> is there a reason why ubuntu kernels have no backend for pstore? It is kind of impossible to catch kernel OOPs that way
[07:40] <karolherbst_work> (afaik)
[07:40] <barq> ok
[07:40] <BluezHarp> Hi,  I'm trying to move a usb udev file into  /ect/udev/rules.d  and I receive permission denied when i  use sudo.  I'm trying to enable usb to connect to my phone use and the android adb tool.
[07:40] <barq> That's it?
[07:41] <EriC^^> barq: yeah try the add-apt-repository
[07:41] <alkisg> BluezHarp: what's the exact command and the exact output? Put it to pastebin
[07:41] <BluezHarp> *using
[07:41] <BluezHarp> Hang on
[07:42] <barq> Same error as before
[07:42] <EriC^^> barq: try dpkg -l software-properties-common
[07:42] <alkisg> barq: what's the output of this currently? put it to pastebin... grep ^Package: /var/lib/apt/lists/*proposed*_Packages
[07:42] <EriC^^> and check the version
[07:42] <EriC^^> should be .3
[07:43] <barq>  0.96.20.4
[07:43] <barq> alkisg: empty
[07:43] <barq> I ran apt-get update since remove the proposed, though
[07:43] <EriC^^> barq: i guess ppa-purge failed
[07:43] <alkisg> barq: err ok you purge the source without downgrading the packages first
[07:44] <barq> EriC^^: The 3 ppa-purge commands returned success
[07:44] <featurive> is it just me or is bluetooth/pulseaudio acting weird in xenial?
[07:44] <EriC^^> he actually ran ppa-purge on every _Package listing
[07:44] <alkisg> barq: you should put proposed back, then run that command to list the packages, and keep their names, because those are the ones that you need to downgrade
[07:44] <barq> I thought I just did all that.
[07:44] <alkisg> EriC^^: I don't know if ppa-purge works on non ppas
[07:44] <EriC^^> alkisg: it does, if you give it the stuff like that
[07:44] <alkisg> barq, you tried to do it with ppa-purge, and it obviously failed, so you need to downgrade it some other way
[07:45] <EriC^^> it's the same background mechanism (getting the packages and downgrading them)
[07:45] <BluezHarp> I tried copy and paste  using the  gui and I get an error that rules.d isnt a directory. I tried sudo mv 'file' /ect/udev/rules.d and received permission denied.
[07:45] <EriC^^> !info software-properties-common
[07:45] <alkisg> EriC^^: well, it obviously didn't work
[07:45] <EriC^^> barq: did you run the ppa-purge command with main at the end?
[07:46] <BluezHarp> alksig, when i use cli to mv the fiile I receive: mv: target '/ext/udev/rules.d' is not a directory
[07:46] <EriC^^> alkisg: yeah, exactly
[07:46] <gnumonk> Hi
[07:47] <alkisg> BluezHarp: it is "etc", not "ext"
[07:47] <gnumonk> how to use dd to format disk upto some GB, for example I have 100GB SSD, I wanted to format upto 70GB?
[07:47] <EriC^^> barq: did you run the command with -p main at the end?
[07:48] <barq> Whcih one
[07:48] <barq> sudo ppa-purge -s mirrors.coopvgg.com.ar_ubuntu_dists -o xenial-proposed -p main
[07:48] <alkisg> gnumonk: dd doesn't format... do you mean that you want to fill the drive with zeroes? (that's not the same as formatting)
[07:48] <EriC^^> alkisg: when you give ppa-purge the launchpad stuff, it basically builds that line so it uses the actual _Package on the pc, nothing to do with launchpad itself, so we fed it that line and it didn't work
[07:49] <EriC^^> which means must be some fault in ppa-purge's stuff
[07:49] <EriC^^> anyways if you did the -p main barq then do as alkisg said and write a one liner that can remove the packages manually one by one
[07:49] <alkisg> EriC^^: yup, it might have some checks that fail with the stock repositories
[07:49] <gnumonk> alkisg: yes.
[07:50] <EriC^^> or just remove them yourself if they're not too many
[07:50] <alkisg> gnumonk: you typed it wrong, that's why you got the error
[07:50] <barq> too many packages to remove
[07:50] <alkisg> barq: run apt policy package, on one of them
[07:51] <alkisg> barq: see if it has the wrong version installed, instead of the one offered by xenial-updates
[07:51] <gnumonk> alkisg: so is there anyway to achieve  that ?
[07:51] <BluezHarp> alkisg, ok thx for the catch.  Now I receive mv: cannot stat 'rules': No such file or directory
[07:52] <alkisg> gnumonk: yes, type "etc" instead of typing "ext"
[07:52] <alkisg> gnumonk: sorry
[07:52] <alkisg> gnumonk: ignore my 2 last comments, I thought I was replying to BluezHarp
[07:52] <gnumonk> :)
[07:52] <alkisg> gnumonk: you can tell dd to stop by using bs and count parameters
[07:53] <alkisg> BluezHarp: now you have a second typo. It's "rules.d", not "rules".
[07:53] <gnumonk> alkisg: any example? man page is not much clear .
[07:53] <alkisg> You forgot the .d
[07:54] <BluezHarp> Ugg, it's 2:00 am here. sorry for the bother. Both errors were a spelling mistake.
[07:54] <alkisg> gnumonk: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=1M count=1024 ==> this zeroes 1024 * 1 MB == 1 GB
[07:55] <barq> alkisg: How can I run apt policy on the package? I am in /var/lib/apt/lists
[07:55] <gnumonk> alkisg: cool , so its basically start from beginning and fill zero upto 1GB?
[07:56] <alkisg> barq, apt policy software-properties-common ==> tells you the installed and the available versions. If the installed version is higher than the one one in xenial or xenial-updates, then it needs to be downgraded
[07:57] <alkisg> gnumonk: yes, but not that sdb includes the mbr, while sdb1 is the contents of the first partition
[07:57] <alkisg> *note
[07:57] <barq> I get invalid falg policy
[07:57] <barq> flag*
[07:58] <alkisg> barq, copy/paste this: apt policy software-properties-common
[07:59] <gnumonk> alkisg: ah ok, let me try that, actually my goal is to preserve 10GB from 100GB SSD and will not be used while installation .
[07:59] <alkisg> gnumonk: then the correct way would be to make 2 partitions, the second one being 10 gb in size, and leaving it unused
[07:59] <alkisg> (or just leaving unpartitioned space there)
[08:00] <alkisg> gnumonk: for that goal, use gparted, not dd
[08:00] <barq> alkisg: I did, I get invalid flag: policy
[08:00] <gnumonk> alkisg: ok. let me try and will back if required.Thanks for help.
[08:00] <alkisg> barq: this takes too long, and I'll have to go in a while, do you mind if you share your screen with me so that we check it together? sudo apt install x11vnc; x11vnc -connect srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr
[08:01] <barq> I'm behind a proxy and firewall, doubt this will work and doubt I am allowed to do this.
[08:01] <alkisg> OK
[08:02] <barq> But thanks for the offer.
[08:06] <barq> I think I'm going to go back to the version before adding proposed
[08:18] <barq> Going back to 15.10
[08:19] <Guest91869> help command
[08:20] <Kirito> " trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/jvm/java-9-openjdk-amd64/include/linux/jawt_md.h', which is also in package openjdk-9-jdk-headless:amd64 9~b114-0ubuntu1" I'm guessing it's known that this package is broken?
[08:20] <Kirito> https://askubuntu.com/questions/769467/can-not-install-openjdk-9-jdk-because-it-tries-to-overwrite-file-aready-includ This is an old issue but apparently has been given no fix?
[08:21] <Kirito> Nevermind, missed the bug report link :/
[08:26] <alkisg> barq, if you mean to reinstall, why not install 16.04 and just not enable the "i'm a programmer, give me the -proposed updates" option...
[08:26] <alkisg> barq, proposed updates are not supposed to be enabled unless you're testing a specific path
[08:26] <alkisg> *patch
[08:26] <barq> I don't want proposed
[08:27] <alkisg> Why did you enable it then, in the first place?
[08:27] <barq> I didn't do-release-upgrade, someone else upgraded and then I replaced the system partition
[08:27] <alkisg> And did a full dist-upgrade after enabling it?
[08:27] <barq> I added it to sources.list without thinking
[08:28] <alkisg> OK - all I'm saying is that it was a user error, not something to make you prefer 15.10 over 16.04
[08:28] <alkisg> If you have other reasons to keep 15.10, np
[08:31] <barq> 15.10 is eol isn't it?
[08:33] <ducasse> barq: yes, 15.10 is eol so it's generally not a good idea to use it
[08:39] <Rebelnet> hello
[08:41] <barq> I'm back to the 16.04 wtihout the proposed updates now
[08:41] <barq> And getting the plasma crash, so will try to install the new plasma via backports
[08:42] <paracusia> hello, followed this guide: https://github.com/zfsonlinux/zfs/wiki/Building-ZFS and now im stuck here: https://nopaste.me/view/0f9240c3 - any ideas?
[08:43] <YankDownUnder> barq: The crashes are "less" than before, however, remember there still ARE crashes...so's not to disappoint.
[08:45] <OERIAS> ?join #debian
[08:47] <ducasse> paracusia: which ubuntu version are you trying to build on?
[08:48] <paracusia> 16.04 ducasse
[08:48] <paracusia> and kernel 4.7.0
[08:48] <ducasse> paracusia: ok, why not use the zfs ppa?
[08:48] <paracusia> i tried it, but it seems to have no packages for xenial
[08:48] <paracusia> apt-get update failed
[08:49] <ducasse> paracusia: must be because zfs in included in the kernel... are you using a mainline kernel?
[08:50] <paracusia> yes ducasse, vanilla 4.7.0
[08:50] <paracusia> the default ubuntu kernel was tainted.. so i had to use a vanilla one
[08:50] <Ben64> tainted how
[08:50] <paracusia> tainted with some sort of 3rd party modules i guess
[08:51] <Era> Lets do this again
[08:51] <Ben64> guess?
[08:51] <Ben64> you should have a really certain reason you're using a non standard kernel and stuff, it's likely to cause issues
[08:52] <Era> Hello, I came here yesterday with my wifi problems
[08:52] <Era> worked for 20 mins after that, lost connection
[08:52] <paracusia> Ben64, I installed 16.04 fresh and had thousands of errors in dmesg. #kernel ppl told me its tainted because the messages said so
[08:52] <paracusia> and thus I hadnt installed anything myself, the ubuntu kernel was tainted. with vanilla no problems anymore
[08:52] <Era> I've determined the cause to be low signal strength, Although wifi on my other laptop with the same install works fine
[08:53] <Era> A few Arch users have recommended me a USB wifi adapter, some others told me to distro hop
[08:53] <Era> I wanted to ask, is there nothing I can do about on Ubuntu itself
[08:53] <paracusia> Ben64, the error was: https://nopaste.me/view/741d8c07
[08:54] <paracusia> Era, try usb adapter first, maybe its hardware related
[08:55] <Era> See, one of those costs money that I dont currently have
[08:55] <Era> Im broke atm
[08:55] <paracusia> ben64, ducasse: any idea on how to complete the zfs installation?
[08:55] <pingwindyktator> Hello. I want to forward connections to my port 8181 to chat.freenode.net:6667. I guess I have to 'ssh -L 8181:chat.freenode.net:6667 ...' but what is the username@host goes next?
[08:55] <Era> Parents are less than willing to shell out 5 bucks
[08:56] <paracusia> use the time you a re in here to earn some money maybe, era
[08:56] <ducasse> paracusia: you are pretty far off the supported track here, i'm uncertain what to recommend.
[08:56] <paracusia> ok ducasse thanks anyway :)
[08:56] <Era> Im gonna use the excuse that Im in India and 15 years old
[08:56] <Era> as the reason why I dont work
[08:56] <pingwindyktator> The problem is - currently I'm in netword which doesn't allow me to connect to irc but I've got digitalocean server and I want to use it for tuneling
[08:56] <ducasse> paracusia: you can try ##linux, best suggestion i have i'm afraid
[08:56] <paracusia> the supported way had many rocks on it
[08:56] <paracusia> :(
[08:57] <Era> Meh, so no Ubuntu native solution?
[08:57] <Era> I guess I can hop to win10 for a try
[08:57] <Ben64> Era: maybe, but it'd probably take forever
[08:57] <ducasse> Era: what sort of chipset is this?
[08:57] <Era> Realtek
[08:58] <Era> 8723be
[08:58] <ducasse> Era: aha, good luck with that, then...
[08:58] <paracusia> era try live cd from other distro if you think it can help
[08:58] <Era> I hate dealing with wifi problems, I've dealt with them on this laptop before, after much searching, fixed it
[08:58] <Era> See
[08:58] <Era> Arch worked out of the box
[08:58] <Era> Manjaro didnt
[08:58] <Era> So I dont know what to think anymore
[08:58] <paracusia> then compare module versions
[08:58] <hateball> If it's Realtek, it'll be a problem
[08:58] <paracusia> gather more info
[08:59] <Era> See I came to ubuntu irc to find Ubuntu native help heh
[08:59] <Era> Guess there wont be any, distro hopping or USB Adapter is the only option
[08:59] <Era> _sigh_
[08:59] <ducasse> Era: we can't magically fix crap chipsets and drivers
[09:00] <paracusia> Era, wouldnt it be logical to look for the module version which worked and try to use it with ubuntu then?
[09:00] <alkisg> Era: if you find a distro that works, mark the kernel and firmware that it used, and then you should be able to make it work in any distro using the same kernel and firmware
[09:00] <Era> How do I do all that btw
[09:00] <Era> Im a noob in this regard
[09:01] <paracusia> modinfo <module name>
[09:01] <alkisg> Era: `uname -r` tells you the kernel version, when you find one that works.
[09:02] <Era> I see
[09:02] <Era> Ill give it a try then
[09:02] <Era> Firstly arch th9o
[09:02] <Era> tho*
[09:02] <Era> Thanks for the advice
[09:02] <swarfega> still learning era :p
[09:02] <Era> Yes
[09:02] <Era> Still learning
[09:02] <swarfega> :D
[09:03] <Era> I only really used xubuntu as an OS because my PC couldnt handle windows
[09:03] <Era> now my new one can
[09:03] <swarfega> linux is good for breathing new life into old hardware
[09:03] <Era> > old
[09:03] <Era> my 2 years old laptop is old by your standards yes
[09:03] <Era> More like a netbook I guess
[09:04] <swarfega> 2 years is a long time in computers  :p
[09:04] <Era> Anyways, since offtopic talk isnt allowed here, Ill throw out another problem
[09:04] <Era> Brightness, I have an issue with it
[09:04] <paracusia> breathing new live in, well said swarfega :)
[09:04] <swarfega> :D
[09:04] <Era> Out of the 5 times I've changed brightness on my old laptop
[09:04] <Era> it worked flawlessly
[09:04] <Era> but when I try the same on the new one, it just
[09:04] <Era> shuts off the screen
[09:05] <Era> What's up with that
[09:05] <Era> Im too scared to do anything brightness related since it doesnt turn back on no matter what I do
[09:05] <Era> other than a hard restart ofc
[09:05] <paracusia> era, you should learn first to ask real questions and write full sentences
[09:06] <Era> I should, Its a habit I cant get rid of even tho I try, sorry about it
[09:07] <Era> Guess Ill first have to fix my chatting skills then ask about my problems, eh? Cya lot later then. Ill come back in a month or so with better English.
[09:14] <barq> Now I get this error when trying to add the backports repository: https://ghostbin.com/paste/554nh Same error, more stacktrace
[09:17] <barq> Same as before without the proposed stuff
[09:18] <k1l> so you changed python stuff on your system?
[09:19] <mgedmin> barq: can you ping launchpad.net on that machine?
[09:19] <zokko> hi guys :-) my ssh cant start after system deploy, 'ssh pre-start terminated with status 127'; any ideas?
[09:20] <mgedmin> barq: do you use a proxy?
[09:20] <mgedmin> zokko: what ubuntu version?  anything interesting in the logs?
[09:21] <zokko> mgedmin: ubuntu 16, pre-start with 127 error code is from the logs
[09:21] <barq> mgedmin: Yes, proxy.
[09:21] <mgedmin> zokko: is that what journalctl shows?  what are the surrounding lines?  can you pastebin?
[09:22] <barq> I can't ping anything
[09:23] <k1l> barq: so the proxy doesnt work at all?
[09:23] <barq> It does
[09:24] <k1l> barq: did you set up apt to use the proxy? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto#Setting_up_apt-get_to_use_a_http-proxy
[09:24] <zokko> mgedmin: i'll look at journalctl
[09:24] <mgedmin> does "can't ping" mean DNS resolution is broken, or does it mean ICMP is firewalled, or what?
[09:24] <barq> I use cntlm for my proxy configuration
[09:25] <barq> It's most likely firewalled
[09:27] <barq> I have apt.conf configured for localhost
[09:27] <barq> the proxy
[09:30] <Jinxit> hello, trying to set up CPU frequency scaling (to set it to performance mode). I have a xeon processor, but cpufrequtils says governor not available
[09:30] <Jinxit> and /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/ has no cpufreq subfolder
[09:34] <barq> Doesn't work, even after addign the proxy directly in apt.conf
[09:35] <Jinxit> cpuinfo reports 0.000 MHz
[09:37] <adamicron> howdy
[09:38] <adamicron> I'm reading http://askubuntu.com/a/22745 trying to figure how to properly install guest additions in my ubuntu guest on ubuntu host
[09:38] <adamicron> the virtualbox packages I installed on host system don't have "-ose-" so I'm not using OSE, is that right"
[09:39] <adamicron> s/"$/?
[09:39] <YankDownUnder> adamicron: "Insert Guest Additions CD" => on the Ubuntu VM it should show up on the desktop. Open a term in the folder. Run the ".sh"
[09:40] <Ben64> isnt the guest additions in the repositories
[09:41] <adamicron> Ben64: there's a package providing the iso but that's the same as getting it from virtualbox UI
[09:43] <adamicron> YankDownUnder: is using the guest additions iso different/better than installing the virtualbox-guest-* packages like -dkms and -x11?
[09:43] <YankDownUnder> https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch04.html & http://www.htpcbeginner.com/install-virtualbox-guest-additions-on-ubuntu-debian/
[09:43] <YankDownUnder> adamicron: I always just go with what's in the repo's - but that's me...I don't like to have to do anything that's termed as "extra work".
[09:44] <adamicron> what's not clear to me is if ubuntu's packaged those already
[09:44] <adamicron> virtualbox.org's docs is always going to suggest their iso image and building script
[09:45] <Qlawy> How/Where should I edit pam config files to be hmmm compliant with pam-auth-update?
[09:45] <YankDownUnder> The Ubuntu teams kinda take a lot of time and energy in trying to make sure that everything is in the repos, minimising the "effort" required by the end-user...
[09:49] <Qlawy> Well... but I still want to edit those files :P
[09:51] <YankDownUnder> Qlawy: The message was intended for the person asking about "VirtualBox" - sorry
[09:53] <MacroMan> Oh Boy. Upgrade time on a live server. Wish me luck.
[09:56] <adamicron> YankDownUnder: just to be clear, are the virtualbox-guest-* packages an _alternative_ to running the setup script from the ISO image or are they a requirement for the latter?
[09:57] <YankDownUnder> adamicron: you can either use the stuff IN the VM (it's in the repos) - OR - you can manually run the script...
[09:57] <adamicron> ok, that's what I figured
[09:57] <adamicron> I understand how using the repo stuff may lead to some outdated package
[09:58] <adamicron> possibly
[09:58] <adamicron> thanks
[09:59] <YankDownUnder> adamicron: On one machine I work with - I have to use "the current" - therefore, I get the stuff from Virtualbox...and I do things THAT way - most of the other machines I work with, I just use the stock standard stuff that comes nicely with Ubuntu...less work, less hassle...blah blah blah
[09:59] <Tucker> how do i get back the deskboard on kubuntu 16.04
[09:59] <ducasse> Qlawy: aiui, as long as you edit those files you can no longer use pam-auth-update, as that is for managing the packaged profiles only
[10:07] <Tucker> how do i activate the little deskboard on the kubuntu 16.04 desktop?
[10:08] <Tucker> it disappeared after upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04
[10:12] <teiion> is the docky dock the new plank or is plank the new docky? or are they separate? I'm using 14.04
[10:15] <Trevsstuff> hey
[10:15] <Trevsstuff> anybody out there?
[10:16] <k1l> Trevsstuff: yes
[10:16] <Trevsstuff> I was wondering if somebody can answer a question
[10:16] <N3o> hello! does anyone know if gcc 5.3 is available somplace for Ubuntu 12.04? I was looking here: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-toolchain-r/+archive/ubuntu/test?field.series_filter=precise but I see only 4.x and 5.4
[10:17] <k1l> Trevsstuff: and we are wondering what the question is :)
[10:17] <Trevsstuff> Small problem, wordpress cannot write to server
[10:18] <Trevsstuff> for example WP UI when I am trying to find plugins An unexpected error occurred. Something may be wrong with WordPress.org or this server’s configuration
[10:18] <k1l> Trevsstuff: make sure the files and folder belong to www-data in the /var/www/ directories
[10:19] <Nene1> hello all
[10:19] <Nene1> i recently applied security updates on my ubuntu 14.04 machine using unattended-upgrades and kernel upgraded to 3.19.0-65 from 3.19.0-58. After upgrade i am seeing a huge cpu wait and if i see iotop, i am seeing a process xfsaild/xvdf4 which is taking most of io. Any idea???
[10:20] <Trevsstuff> they belong to root and www-data group
[10:20] <k1l> root is the error there
[10:20] <Trevsstuff> ok
[10:20] <Trevsstuff> They both previously were www-data
[10:21] <Nene1> Trevsstuff: Any idea ^^??
[10:21] <Nene1> k1l:
[10:21] <ducasse> Nene1: are you running xfs?
[10:22] <Trevsstuff> Ill just go back, to change it from the /wordpress dir
[10:22] <Nene1> ducasse: yess
[10:22] <Trevsstuff> Oh Nene1 I am a beginner
[10:23] <ducasse> Nene1: seems something is using a lot of i/o on a xfs disk
[10:23] <Nene1> ducasse: yeah.. but this is happening after kernel upgrade only...
[10:23] <Nene1> there are no other changes
[10:25] <ducasse> Nene1: roll back to the previous kernel, maybe?
[10:26] <Nene1> ducasse: if that is the solution... i may not be able to apply security updates in life time :(
[10:27] <Trevsstuff> All ownership changed to www-data Updating Theme Travel Lite (1/1) Downloading update from https://downloads.wordpress.org/theme/travel-lite.1.9.zip… An error occurred while updating Travel Lite: Download failed. stream_socket_client(): php_network_getaddresses: getaddrinfo failed: Temporary failure in name resolution stream_socket_client(): unable to connect to ssl://downloads.wordpress.org:443 (php_network_getaddresses: getadd
[10:28] <ducasse> Nene1: i didn't suggest it as a solution, but as a test to confirm that is the problem. if it is, then file a bug agaiunst the newer kernel package
[10:29] <gnyrfta> I am trying to use libsndfile1, does someone know where its files get installed to?
[10:29] <_KaLiF> Hi..!

[10:29] <gnyrfta> It is installed using sudo apt-get .. hi _KaLif! :)
[10:30] <Trevsstuff> I changed ownership
[10:30] <hateball> gnyrfta: dpkg -L libsndfile1
[10:30] <k1l> Trevsstuff: changed what, how, to what?
[10:30] <gnyrfta> thx hateball, i did that already - the result is:
[10:31] <hateball> !paste | gnyrfta
[10:31] <Trevsstuff> sudo chown -R www-data:www-data
[10:31] <k1l> ok
[10:31] <hateball> gnyrfta: dpkg -L shows you where the files are unpacked to. What is it you are trying to do?
[10:31] <Trevsstuff> still getting error message when trying to look for WP plugins
[10:31] <Nene1> ducasse: i agreee.. but how to debug issuee?? any idea?? and  iam using xfs for docker
[10:31] <gnyrfta> /usr/lib plus some other folders, but I cannot see libsndfile1 there...
[10:32] <k1l> Trevsstuff: restart apache and try again
[10:32] <Trevsstuff> ok
[10:33] <hateball> gnyrfta: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libsndfile.so.1.0.25 is the actual binary
[10:33] <hateball> gnyrfta: Still, what are you trying to do?
[10:33] <gnyrfta> hateball: I am learning c++ and trying to use the library in code.
[10:34] <hateball> gnyrfta: probably want to point to the symlink /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libsndfile.so.1 then
[10:34] <h-> hello
[10:34] <gnyrfta> hateball: will try that : )
 plugins updated but cant get new plugins, same server config error
[10:36] <h-> Anyone can help with an encryption question? I installed ubuntu and told it I wanted to enable home folder encryption, and after it booted it wanted me to set up a passphrase I think but I told it I would do it later... I want to do it now, how do I do it??
[10:36] <gnyrfta> hateball: found it! Thanks!
[10:36] <k1l> Trevsstuff: put the error onto paste.ubuntu.com
[10:37] <hateball> gnyrfta: :)
[10:37] <gnyrfta> hateball: yeah, you unstucked me - thanks!
[10:38] <Trevsstuff> An unexpected error occurred. Something may be wrong with WordPress.org or this server’s configuration. If you continue to have problems, please try the support forums.
[10:39] <gnyrfta> join #xchat
 What do I do with the pastebin? its only an error on the WP UI
[10:40] <k1l> show the link here
[10:40] <k1l> Trevsstuff: but if its the same you just showed, it might be an wordpress issue with the plugin servers
[10:41] <Trevsstuff> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23064158/
[10:41] <Trevsstuff> it is the same issue. I can upload images
[10:41] <k1l> Trevsstuff: yes, ask the wordpress guys if that is an known issue on their server side
[10:42] <Trevsstuff> what permission should I have on the wp-content folders?
[10:43] <k1l> www-data needs to be the owner, since that is the user the webserver runs on ubunut
[10:46] <Trevsstuff> yeah <k1l> that is all good
[10:47] <ducasse> Nene1: the best thing you can do is to file a bug, then the developers will tell you how to proceed. i have no idea how to debug a filesystem module myself.
[10:47] <amin3d> hi, how do i replace [[dbprefix]] with wp_ using sed?
[10:51] <Nene1> ok thanks ducasse
[10:52] <ducasse> Nene1: but test against the previous kernel first
[10:52] <hateball> amin3d: sed 's/\[\[dbprefix\]\]/wp_/'
[10:52] <hateball> dunno if all brackets need escaping, but waev
[10:52] <Nene1> ok
[10:57] <sarek> My HFS external always somehow becomes read-only if i reboot without first unmounting it. Would I have the same problem if it was NTFS?
[10:57] <leroides> @search emma cline
[10:59] <amin3d> hateball : it doesn't work
[11:01] <rp2> is there any way I can see how long a given process has been blocking on the current system call it is trying to execute?
[11:01] <gamester> I have the launcher on auto-hide, with high sensitivity so its easy to reveal it. When I snap any window to the left side of the screen it randomly becomes extremely hard to reveal the launcher, no matter which window is selected.
[11:01] <sarek> Would you trust this? https://www.paragon-software.com/technologies/components/ntfs-hfs-converter/ I mean Paragon is pretty reputable
[11:02] <gamester> Probably yet another ridiculous bug created by a 5 year old programmer.
[11:06] <hateball> amin3d: Paste what you're running and its output
[11:06] <hateball> !paste | amin3d
[11:06] <hateball> amin3d: obviously that string by itself wont do anything, it needs to point to a file or whatever you want done
[11:08] <amin3d> sed -i 's/\[\[dbprefiwp_\]\]/wp_/g' 13b.sql
[11:10] <hateball> amin3d: looks incorrect
[11:11] <amin3d> how?
[11:11] <Clitoris> Hi!
[11:11] <hateball> amin3d: compare your line to mine
[11:11] <hateball> amin3d: how would dbprefiwp_ match dbprefix ?
[11:12] <amin3d> dbprefix is a sample, actually after running some sed it has been converted to dbprefiwp_
[11:13] -Clitoris:#ubuntu- http://imgur.com/XLvjpjO
[11:14] <amin3d> I ran yours, but no change
[11:15] <_KaLiF> I have a PS4 on  1.76..
[11:16] <chum> hey
[11:16] <Obadiah1> hi
[11:16]  * _KaLiF have a PS4 on 1.76
[11:17] <chum> what games are you playing?
[11:17]  * _KaLiF is a g4m3r
[11:17] <Obadiah1> skin flute
[11:17]  * _KaLiF is a not g4m3r
[11:17]  * _KaLiF is a not a G4m3r
[11:18] <chum> how is PS4, btw?
[11:18] <_KaLiF> I would like to play charlesproxy
[11:18] <_KaLiF> and payload
[11:18] <_KaLiF> or Steam
[11:18] <leeyaa> hi guys
[11:19] <leeyaa> does anyone know if systemctl stop apache2.service should gracefully stop apache ?
[11:20] <kromwell> leeyaa, apachectl -k graceful-stop is the command you're looking for
[11:20] <leeyaa> kromwell: yes, i know. but i need it to go through systemd
[11:21] <leeyaa> we are replacing init with systemd native scripts (since ubuntu is forcing us to use systemd by default)
[11:23] <leeyaa> so
[11:23] <kromwell> leeyaa, I'm looking into it
[11:23] <leeyaa> by default, does systemctl stop apache2.service do graceful stop ?
[11:23] <leeyaa> i cant seem to figure it out
[11:23] <mgedmin> ubuntu 16.04 doesn't ship a systemd service file for apache 2
[11:23] <mgedmin> there's an /etc/init.d/apache2 that supports both stop and graceful-stop
[11:24] <leeyaa> yes, it does not have a native script
[11:24] <mgedmin> I would expect systemctl stop to run /etc/init.d/apache2 stop (i.e. not graceful)
[11:24] <leeyaa> this is what i get when i enable it : apache2.service is not a native service, redirecting to systemd-sysv-install
[11:24] <Tucker> is the old xchat cleint removed in ubuntu 16.04?
[11:24] <mgedmin> surprisingly, yes
[11:25] <mgedmin> I find that strange, since xchat-gnome is still present
[11:25] <Tucker> :( really sad
[11:25] <mgedmin> and isn't that basically the same codebase?
[11:25] <leeyaa> my problem is this: if i dont start apache via systemctl then /etc/init.d/apache2 reload stops working....
[11:25] <ducasse> Tucker: hexchat has replaced it
[11:25] <leeyaa> so i was thinking to migrate it to systemd
[11:25] <Tucker> is there a repo for the old xchat for 16.04?
[11:25] <mgedmin> 'service apache2 reload' ought to work across all ubuntu versions
[11:25] <leeyaa> but now i cant figure out if i stop apache via systemctl if it will do graceful stop
[11:26] <Tucker> i prefer xchat it way more stable for me
[11:26] <ikonia> leeyaa: what is the systemd command you are running
[11:26] <kromwell> leeyaa, apachectl -k graceful-stop
[11:26] <kromwell> Have you tried that?
[11:26] <ikonia> apachectl should not be used
[11:26] <leeyaa> kromwell: thats what we used to use in 14.04
[11:26] <leeyaa> i mean the init.d scripts were using it
[11:26] <kromwell> What is your current version, leeyaa ?
[11:26] <leeyaa> 16.04
[11:26] <mgedmin> what's wrong with running apachectl directly?
[11:26] <kromwell> And it no longer works, leeyaa ?
[11:26] <ducasse> Tucker: xchat is no longer maintained, better look for a new client
[11:27] <leeyaa> i have to update tons of script that depend on it
[11:27] <ikonia> it will screw up the systemd unit states
[11:27] <leeyaa> and that
[11:27] <leeyaa> kromwell: yes because if you dont start apache via systemd it no longer can detect its unit if it is up or not
[11:27] <leeyaa> hence my logrotate stops working
[11:27] <leeyaa> and some other crap
[11:28] <leeyaa> i mean logrotate works fine, but it leaves open file handles
[11:28] <leeyaa> because it cant reload apache ;p
[11:28] <k1l> that works with the regular setups ubuntu ships.
[11:28] <Tucker> yeah i noticed that latest release of xchat was really old but working rock solid
[11:28] <leeyaa> so i need to update all our scripts to either use systemd or not use it
[11:28] <Tucker> seems i have to compile it
[11:28] <leeyaa> since 16.04 comes with systemd i decided to go with it
[11:29] <ikonia> not using upstart up systemd when building you scripts was a mistake
[11:29] <k1l> Tucker: xchat is not maintained anymore. use hexchat which is in the ubuntu repos, too
[11:29] <mgedmin> I wonder if 'service apache2 graceful-stop' would work
[11:29] <leeyaa> ikonia: i didnt understand that last bit
[11:29] <k1l> Tucker: and hexchat is the fork of xchat
[11:29] <mgedmin> i.e. does the 'service' wrapper always run systemctl, or does it delegate to init.d scripts directly when a legacy init.d script exists?
[11:29] <leeyaa> we were using upstart until 14.04
[11:29] <ikonia> leeyaa: if you built scripts depending on apachectl rather than upstart/systemd calls you're going to have problems
[11:29] <leeyaa> mgedmin: the init.d scripts currently use systemctl
[11:29] <leeyaa> i think
[11:30] <leeyaa> sort of
[11:30] <REAPer61616> Hi!
[11:30] <leeyaa> ikonia: well some of those scripts are 12y old
[11:30] <ikonia> and should be maintained.....
[11:30] <leeyaa> yes, but thats another story ;p
[11:30] <leeyaa> ok so what is the best way to restart/reload/stop apache gracefully now ?
[11:30] <REAPer61616> Is there someone who can talk about phablet?
[11:30] <k1l> !touch | REAPer61616
[11:31] <leeyaa> any service for that matter - migrate it to systemd ?
[11:31] <ikonia> leeyaa: I don't think a systemctl stop is actually ungraceful
[11:31] <mgedmin> ah, I see /usr/sbin/service delegates to sysv scripts for any unrecognized actions
[11:31] <REAPer61616> Thanks!
[11:31] <leeyaa> ikonia: i am looking for a way to check and verify it
[11:31] <REAPer61616> bye
[11:31] <ikonia> leeyaa: look at the unit file see what it executes
[11:31] <leeyaa> a second way - i can manually test it ofc
[11:31] <fireball```> leeyaa, 'systemctl list-units --all' try to check
[11:32] <Xin> hey I just added a second hard drive
[11:32] <leeyaa> and why upgrade from 14.04 did not handle this anyway
[11:32] <Xin> how do I mount it?
[11:32] <leeyaa> was working great on 14.04
[11:32] <ikonia> leeyaa: what ?
[11:32] <k1l> leeyaa: handle your own custom scripts? how is that supposed to work?
[11:33] <leeyaa> k1l: logrotate configs did not change for some reason
[11:33] <k1l> leeyaa: the standard scripts shipped by ubuntu are made to be systemd scripts now.
[11:33] <leeyaa> k1l: so whatever i do i should use systemd i guess ?
[11:33] <k1l> Xin: manually with "mount" or put it into fstab
[11:34] <leeyaa> cause thats a solution too, just a bit more work
[11:34] <k1l> leeyaa: i dont understand what mess you have there at all
[11:34] <ikonia> leeyaa: systemd is pretty much the standard init system for all major distros
[11:34] <leeyaa> ikonia: it isnt yet
[11:34] <ikonia> leeyaa: so you need to invest time in systemd for the medium term future at least
[11:34] <ikonia> leeyaa:  it really is
[11:34]  * mgedmin is a fan of 'service apache2 reload' for graceful reloading
[11:35] <k1l> leeyaa: it is. all big distros changed to systemd. upstart is deprecated since then. only gentoo works on maintaining openRC.
[11:35] <mgedmin> I don't see a reason to jump to systemctl when the apache2 packages still use init.d scripts
[11:35] <leeyaa> k1l: gentoo is a different animal, i would use openrc if it was coming with ubuntu
[11:35] <mgedmin> and 'service' is portable across all ubuntu versions
[11:35] <leeyaa> k1l: the init.d scripts call systemctl
[11:35] <ikonia> leeyaa: no-one uses gentoo in the real world, all enterprise distros have moved to systemd
[11:36] <leeyaa> i like mgedmin's approach
[11:36] <k1l> mgedmin: that is  for compatibility reasons. ubuntu shifted to systemd as init with 15.04 and will keep that road
[11:36] <ikonia> mgedmin: it won't be for ever
[11:36] <leeyaa> hm
[11:36] <mgedmin> "prediction is very difficult, especially of the future" -- Niels Bohr
[11:36] <ikonia> mgedmin: the "service" wrapper will be removed when all systemV/upstart references are gone
[11:36] <k1l> leeyaa: there is no way around you investing time to get on the systemd way.
[11:36] <leeyaa> ok so one question remains - does systemctl stop apache2 do it gracefully ?
[11:36] <ikonia> leeyaa: I believe so - yes
[11:36] <leeyaa> how to find out what it calls?
[11:36] <ikonia> leeyaa: as I've said, 3 times, you may want to look at the unit file to confirm
[11:37] <leeyaa> k1l: yeah i guess ill have to
[11:37] <mgedmin> ubuntu doesn't have a systemd unit file for apache2
[11:37] <leeyaa> yet
[11:37] <mgedmin> so it's kind of hard to look at it to confirm anything :/
[11:37] <ikonia> mgedmin: what version of ubuntu
[11:37] <mgedmin> 16.04
[11:37] <leeyaa> im on 16.04.01 and cant find it
[11:37] <ikonia> mgedmin: then it should have a unit file for apache if you have apache installed
[11:37] <ikonia> leeyaa: can't find what exactly ?
[11:38] <leeyaa> the unit file (like /lib/systemd/whatever.service
[11:38] <mgedmin> oh wait there is one in /lib/systemd!
[11:38] <mgedmin> duh, that'll teach me to look only at paths under /etc
[11:38] <leeyaa> mgedmin: where ;p
[11:38] <leeyaa> i only found this /lib/systemd/system/apache2.service.d/apache2-systemd.conf
[11:39] <mgedmin> it's three lines: [service] type=forking and remainafterexit=no
[11:39] <leeyaa> i was expecting a file that looks like this
[11:39] <leeyaa> https://bpaste.net/show/3f0a5d3369b8
[11:40] <akshaystore> how to get system refresh
[11:40] <k1l> akshaystore: system refresh? can you explain that a bit more?
[11:40] <leeyaa> maybe im missing something or cant understand
[11:41] <leeyaa> mgedmin: does the unit file i quoted look like something that could work on Ubuntu ?
[11:41] <leeyaa> its from another system i have
[11:41] <akshaystore> how to refresh ubuntu
[11:41] <k1l> akshaystore: what do you mean with "refresh"?
[11:42] <mgedmin> leeyaa: maybe?  personally I'd rather not touch the setup ubuntu provides for me
[11:42] <mgedmin> because I don't consider myself to be enough of an expert to feel like I could do a better job than the debian/ubuntu maintainers
[11:42] <leeyaa> i guess ill have to test if it does graceful stop/restart
[11:42] <akshaystore> how to delete file permanatlye
[11:42] <akshaystore> exit
[11:43] <leeyaa> this is silly
[11:44] <leeyaa> btw, do you know where can i find default logrotate file for apache on 16.04 ?
[11:44] <ikonia>  /etc/logrotate.d ?
[11:45] <Tucker> !compositor
[11:45] <leeyaa> ikonia: i dont have default ones
[11:45] <leeyaa> just need to check something
[11:45] <mgedmin> /etc/logrotate.d/apache2 exists here
[11:45] <ikonia> leeyaa: what do you mean you don't have default ones ?
[11:45] <ikonia> leeyaa: when you  install apache it will install the logrotate file
[11:45] <mgedmin> its content: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23064257/
[11:46] <mgedmin> debsums confirms that it's unchanged
[11:46] <leeyaa> hm so default one also calls /etc/init.d/apache2 reload
[11:46] <leeyaa> ok makes sense now
[11:47] <ikonia> so that suggests it's not been fully ported to systemd yet
[11:47] <leeyaa> our scripts that we use to deploy stuff use apachectl (the binary file)
[11:47] <leeyaa> and it messes things up
[11:47] <ikonia> what ?
[11:47] <leeyaa> i should just change them to use init.d
[11:47] <leeyaa> which calls systemctl
[11:47] <ikonia> you should make the systemd call where possible
[11:47] <ikonia> I don't think that does call systemd
[11:47] <ikonia> I think it's more likley the other way around
[11:47] <leeyaa> ikonia: /etc/init.d/ is some backporting ?
[11:48] <ikonia> no, it's legacy
[11:48] <leeyaa> oh
[11:48] <leeyaa> ok
[11:48] <mgedmin> /etc/init.d/apache2 doesn't call systemctl
[11:48] <leeyaa> why the rotation does not use systemd then :
[11:48] <mgedmin> /usr/sbin/service calls systemctl; systemctl talks to systemd over dbus; systemd calls /etc/init.d/apache2
[11:48] <leeyaa> mgedmin: it does https://bpaste.net/show/e0238c59135b
[11:48] <ikonia> leeyaa: for legacy reasons, it's probably not all been ported into systemd yet, so the reload function is probably easier to call
[11:48] <mgedmin> oh, wow
[11:49] <mgedmin> but how
[11:49] <leeyaa> it does since 16.04 (prior to .01 release)
[11:49] <Trevsstuff> I have WordPress installed on my ubuntu server... I can upload files, update plugins, I have set user/group to www-data and I ma getting an error when on the new plugins page
[11:49] <leeyaa> ikonia: yeah, i thin i understand now
[11:49] <Trevsstuff> Plz help
[11:49] <mgedmin> why do I not get that?
[11:49] <leeyaa> mgedmin: probably you did not update your config files during upgrade
[11:50] <mgedmin> I mean, on my ubuntu 16.04 systemctl apache2 shows 'ExecStart=/etc/init.d/apache2 start'
[11:50] <Trevsstuff> An unexpected error occurred. Something may be wrong with WordPress.org or this server’s configuration.
[11:50] <leeyaa> thanks for the help guys
[11:50] <mgedmin> nope, debsums says /etc/init.d/apache2 is unchanged
[11:50] <leeyaa> ill just switch everything to systemd
[11:50] <ikonia> Trevsstuff: read the apache error
[11:50] <leeyaa> at least web server stuff i will
[11:50] <ikonia> Trevsstuff: you'v enot configured wordpress
[11:51] <k1l> Trevsstuff: using a proxy?
[11:51] <mgedmin> oh!  perhaps /etc/init.d/apache2 invokes systemctl which then invokes /etc/init.d/apache2, which recognizes it was started by systemd and then does the actual start
[11:51] <Trevsstuff> how to read the apache2 error?
[11:51] <ikonia> mgedmin: no, it doesn't
[11:51] <leeyaa> mgedmin: yes something like that
[11:51] <mgedmin> ok, that makes sense -- how else would systemd keep track of the status of the unit?
[11:51] <DeaDSouL> hi, yesterday the electricity went down, so the server shutted down,.. when I switched it back on, it was complaining about ata1.00 things, and stucking in the booting process. So, I boot the recovery mode and did some fsck, i found 4 bad blocks, and got them fixed. now it's booting fine,. the problem is whenever i login as normal user or root, it automatically logs me back out. how can I fix that ? ps: server doesn't have gui
[11:51] <leeyaa> but not exactly
[11:51] <ikonia> mgedmin: read what you've just said, that would be a loop
[11:51] <k1l> Trevsstuff: and do you have a blank "SITE URL" in the wordpress settings? if so, set your site url there
[11:51] <mgedmin> also I should stop talking about things I don't fully understand
[11:51] <leeyaa> just read the script ;p
[11:51] <ikonia> DeaDSouL: look at the auth log
[11:52] <Trevsstuff> I have mysite.com/wordpress/
[11:52] <DeaDSouL> ikonia: I can't login, should I check them from the recovery mode?
[11:52] <ikonia> Trevsstuff: read the apache log
[11:52] <ikonia> DeaDSouL: yes
[11:52] <ikonia> Trevsstuff: it will hilight the error
[11:52] <DeaDSouL> ikonia: which file exactly i need to check
[11:52] <Trevsstuff> Ill check it out
[11:52] <ikonia> DeaDSouL: the auth and syslog
[11:53] <ikonia> DeaDSouL: also make sure your home directory is writeable
[11:53] <DeaDSouL> ikonia: thanks bro...  i'll do
[11:54] <leeyaa> so ill be checking if systemctl stop nginx.service actually does graceful stop
[11:54] <leeyaa> i would expect that it should be graceful
[11:54] <ikonia> leeyaa: you're still talking......just look
[11:54] <leeyaa> ikonia: tried ;p
[11:55] <deronnax> it would be awesome if there was a graph like the home one of speed.pypy.org on the speed.python.org
[11:56] <deronnax> that's the only graph that really mean something to "normal" people
[11:57] <barq> Is there another way that I can add a repository to my sources other than sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports ?
[11:57] <barq> I am behind a proxy
[11:58] <ikonia> barq: what has a proxy got to do with that ?
[11:59] <barq> You need a network connection to add the repositor ikonia
[11:59] <barq> repository*
[12:00] <ikonia> barq: right, and you have a network connection via a proxy
[12:00] <ikonia> barq: if you don't have a network connection, manually adding the repo into your sources won't help you, as you still need a network to access it
[12:02] <barq> export http_proxy and https_proxy helped apt
[12:04] <barq> So apparently there is a connection ikonia
[12:04] <h-> hello
[12:04] <knoppix> hello all
[12:06] <h-> Can someone help with an encryption/security question?
[12:07] <barq> If you ask there is a possibility.
[12:09] <leeyaa> ikonia: i dont think systemd does graceful stops, not unless you modify default unit file
[12:09] <h-> ok thanks, I set up encryption on my home directory during install. But I am skeptical that it is working, I set up a new user with sudo rights and then logged in as test user and sudo can explore my directory... is this normal?
[12:10] <Ben64> h-: if you're logged in, yes
[12:11] <h-> Ben64: I was logged out
[12:11] <Ben64> h-: try rebooting and going to recovery mode and checking there
[12:12] <h-> Ben64: ok thanks, I also do see the .ecryptfs file in my home
[12:13] <Trevsstuff> Sorry <ikonia> I have to google everything http://paste.ubuntu.com/23064316/ here is the error log
[12:13] <DeaDSouL> ikonia: back.. here, please check: https://s4.postimg.org/4fhsogm9p/IMG_0674.jpg
[12:13] <ikonia> Trevsstuff: so thats pretty clear - your config is wrong
[12:13] <ikonia> double check your config
[12:14] <ikonia> DeaDSouL: so invalid password and no such user
[12:14] <DeaDSouL> ikonia: the password is correct...
[12:15] <ikonia> DeaDSouL: not according to that
[12:15] <ikonia> DeaDSouL: and as you can see other people are using root
 what speciffically?
[12:15] <DeaDSouL> ikonia: trust me... the passwords is correct... i can login recovery mode with the same password
[12:15] <ikonia> Trevsstuff: no idea, you have to look yourself on that, visually confirm the settings and format of the log file
[12:16] <ikonia> DeaDSouL: login as a non-root user and confirm the password
[12:16] <DeaDSouL> ikonia: is it normal that it says uid=0 for all users? root, deadsoul, xbmc
[12:16] <ikonia> DeaDSouL: no,
[12:16] <ikonia> DeaDSouL: that suggests bad things
[12:17] <ikonia> DeaDSouL: look at /etc/passwd file
[12:17] <DeaDSouL> ikonia: i just did, users are there
[12:17] <ikonia> DeaDSouL: what are their UID's
[12:17] <DeaDSouL> ikonia: deadsoul=1000, xbmc=1001
[12:18] <ikonia> DeaDSouL: so that conflicts with what the auth log is showing
[12:18] <ikonia> DeaDSouL: so the UID=0 thing is just sshd spawning a new process
[12:19] <leeyaa> do you guys know when the apache logrotate file will be ported to systemd?
[12:19] <ikonia> leeyaa: no
[12:19] <leeyaa> im asking because i use custom logrotate configs for apache, so i know when to migrate it
[12:19] <DeaDSouL> ikonia: could the improper shutdowns cause all that?!!
[12:19] <ikonia> leeyaa: what's the actual problem - you seem to be creating one where non-exists
[12:20] <ikonia> DeaDSouL: not really, as if you can authenticate root then the shadow file must be "ok"
[12:20] <ikonia> DeaDSouL: and if you can see users in the password and shadow file - they are there
[12:20] <DeaDSouL> ikonia: i can't even login as root in normal boot
[12:21] <DeaDSouL> ikonia: how to fix it bro?
[12:21] <ikonia> DeaDSouL: your best bet to get a realistic view, boot to recovery mode, remove the auth log, reboot, try to login, fail, go back into recovery mode and view the clean security log to find out what's current and what's old
[12:21] <leeyaa> ikonia: my actual problem is that with my current config logrotate stopped reloading some services after log rotation, because systemd is not aware of the unit state. e.g. it detects apache is dead, because it was started using apachectl. (thats something i fixed now, by using systemctl instead).
[12:21] <leeyaa> logrotate config for apache uses /etc/init.d/apache2 reload which you guys said it is for legacy purposes
[12:21] <ikonia> leeyaa: the default one ubuntu ships works,
[12:21] <ikonia> leeyaa: just use that, or just use the same reload command
[12:21] <leeyaa> ikonia: it works fine now
[12:21] <DeaDSouL> ikonia: ok
[12:21] <ikonia> leeyaa: great, zero problem then
[12:22] <leeyaa> ikonia: yeah until /etc/init.d/apache2 relaod gets dropped ;p
[12:22] <leeyaa> anyway ill figure it out
[12:22] <WoLf> One quick question to steer me in the right direction, please.. I've just installed the new release (16.04) and when I try to start the GUI with "sudo start lightdm" I receive an error about unable to connect to Upstart. What has changed from the past versions, and/or where to look for the new syntax on how to run lightdm?
[12:22] <leeyaa> thanks for the help earlier!
[12:23] <h-> looks like encryption is indeed working, the recovery mode could not explore my home directory. Thanks for the help
[12:25] <DeaDSouL> ikonia: when i login, it shows the welcome message for micro-seconds then show me the login page again!!
[12:26] <ikonia> DeaDSouL: ok - so again, does the auth log show the auth working
[12:26] <ikonia> thats the first question
[12:26] <DeaDSouL> ikonia: just a sec
[12:27] <alwilliams> Hi there, I'm in a bit of a pickle. I'm out of RAM, and need to kill a process to free up some memory
[12:27] <alwilliams> but I don't know the process's id
[12:27] <alwilliams> and I can't start new processes
[12:28] <alwilliams> any options?
[12:30] <DeaDSouL> ikonia: here bro: https://s4.postimg.org/9fyq462e5/IMG_0676.jpg
[12:30] <pawiecki> Hi! I have something interesting to figure out. I have Fedora 24 laptop, then inside Virtualbox, I have Windows 10, then inside Windows 10 i have so called "Bash on Windows" - which works quite well. Now what I want to achieve is to ssh to some remote host, using Windows 10 virtual host as a ssh proxy. Do you thnk it's possible and/or hav someone tried that? :)
[12:31] <pawiecki> ave*
[12:31] <pawiecki> have** grr sorry
[12:35] <Xin> hey all how can I check that a partitions encrypted with LUKs is properly encrypted? :)
[12:35] <gosha> hi everyone
[12:40] <leeyaa> pawiecki: that sounds like overkill ;p
[12:41] <leeyaa> you could use ssh tunnel tho
[12:43] <edvinas> hey can anyone explain me why I have files/directories colours in xterm but not in gnome-terminal ?
[12:47] <fra_> what's happen
[12:50] <pawiecki> leeyaa: this is an overkill, but it can solve my problem :)
[12:51] <pawiecki> and it's cool that it may be possible
[12:51] <h-> pawiecki: you can do this in windows without bash, just use putty
[12:53] <Tin_man> pawiecki, what problem is that?
[12:55] <pawiecki> Tin_man: i have a VPN client that works flawlessly on Windows, but not so much on Fedora. So I want to activate VPN on windows inside vbox, and then connect to desired remote host via ssh, hopping over windows guest.
[12:55] <pawiecki> is this possible using putty?
[12:56] <Rubas> Hello, how do I check for a mail server on my server? If I have no mail servers installed, can I still send mails out?
[12:56] <Tin_man> well you lost me, i'm not up todate on VM's and such.. so ill have to take your word for it.. :)
[12:57] <Tin_man> i use putty all the time but normally just to update my linux machines from my windows machine
[12:57] <pawiecki> Tin_man: hehe, no problem. I'm just impressed by the "new and fresh" tool, which is Ubuntu's Bash on Windows, and am curious if it's useful
[12:58] <pawiecki> Rubas: you can send mails without mail server - using mail client :)
[12:58] <Tin_man> i've got it, if i download it, but never have bothered, cause I've got in on my linux boxes
[12:58] <h-> pawiecki: yes, it's possible in putty to tunnel the ssh and should work here also
[12:58] <Rubas> pawiecki: thank you, but what if I have no mails clients either?
[12:59] <korbelk4> this is test
[12:59] <pawiecki> Rubas: then you should configure one. For example thunderbird (if it's a desktop pc) or mutt (if server). Google up :)
[12:59] <adamicron> should installing the virtualbox package have put users in the vboxusers group?
[13:00] <adamicron> I had to do that manually and now I'm wondering if there's some other setup I'm missing
[13:00] <Rubas> Thanks pawiecki :)
[13:00] <h-> pawiecki: http://tinyurl.com/y3zuxx
[13:00] <pawiecki> adamicron: it's always goot to look for preferred installation instructions on software vendor. I've installed Vbox on Fedora 24, and almost everything went automagically
[13:01] <h-> something like that
[13:01] <pawiecki> h-: aha! that looks useful, thanks!
[13:01] <h-> pawiecki: yw
[13:01] <adamicron> and "software vendor" is what in my case?
[13:01] <adamicron> Ubuntu or Oracle's?
[13:02] <pawiecki> oracle's website or google some howto's
[13:02] <pawiecki> adamicron: ^
[13:05] <hateball> Rubas: you can also send mails using telnet to connect to an smtp server
[13:05] <hateball> if that is more your styl
[13:06] <Rubas> hateball: haha yeah that is too hardstyled
[13:06] <adamicron> pawiecki: that' swhat I did and ended up manually adding my user to the group
[13:06] <adamicron> also mentioned at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox/USB
[13:06] <adamicron> my question was if APT should have taken care of that for me
[13:06] <N3o> does anyone know how can I install gcc-5.3 on Ubuntu 12.04?
[13:07] <N3o> I need that specific gcc version
[13:08] <fras> Rubas: maybe web-mail
[13:09] <Mathisen> N3o, http://juniway.blogspot.com/2015/06/install-gcc510-on-ubuntu-1204build-from.html
[13:10] <ilhamtaufiq> hi, i wanna ask how to upgrade ubuntu version without re-install the os
[13:10] <ilhamtaufiq> thx
[13:10] <DeaDSouL> ikonia: can you help me please?
[13:10] <ikonia> DeaDSouL: sorry I was away from my keyboard
[13:11] <ikonia> DeaDSouL: ok - so that looks like it's authing ok, which is good
[13:11] <ikonia> DeaDSouL: so the next question is, can it read/write to your user (whomever you login as) home directory
[13:11] <mgedmin> I've created a libvirt xenial VM on a xenial host, using ubuntu-vm-builder
[13:11] <k1l> ilhamtaufiq: run the online upgrade
[13:11] <mgedmin> my VM gets not network
[13:11] <mgedmin> I can mount the disk image and look at the syslog
[13:11] <mgedmin> I see kernel: [    2.425625] virtio_net virtio0 ens3: renamed from eth0, and then ifup fails with "cannot find device eth0" :/
[13:12] <DeaDSouL> ikonia: it's ok bro, wb
[13:13] <DeaDSouL> ikonia: it says, rw,error=ro ... something like that
[13:13] <N3o> Mathisen the problem with that (I've seen that article) is that it has no multilib support which I need
[13:13] <DeaDSouL> ikonia: that's when i check it by `mount`
[13:13] <N3o> the same if I follow the LFS guide
[13:13] <Rubas> fras: thanks fras
[13:13] <uruk7> how to view a video no -ascii code ->tty5>mplayer aaa.mp4 --> http://pastebin.com/raw/wejVx0e3
[13:17] <mgedmin> ok I can mount the partition externally and change eth0 to ens3 in /etc/network/interfaces, but I'm disappointed ubuntu-vm-builder built a broken machine for me :/
[13:17] <h-> pawiecki: by the way, do not trust Windows 10
[13:19] <foli_> any help with sunspot gem?
[13:19] <DeaDSouL> ikonia: it says: /dev/disk/by-uuid/xxxxxx on / type ext4 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro,user_xattr,barrier=1,data=ordered)
[13:19] <DeaDSouL> ikonia: is it enough ? or need to try another command?
[13:22] <ikonia> DeaDSouL: can you actually write to it though
[13:22] <ikonia> and look at the permissions on it
[13:22] <ikonia> can you read it
[13:23] <hateball> DeaDSouL: Was this the drive affected by a loss of power? Did you run an offline fsck on it after that?
[13:23] <DeaDSouL> ikonia: yes i can
[13:24] <DeaDSouL> ikonia: as root of course because i'm in recovery mode
[13:24] <hateball> DeaDSouL: And it probably doesnt hurt to check its physical status with smartctl
[13:24] <ikonia> DeaDSouL: you can't "test" it in recovery mode
[13:24] <ikonia> you need to verify what it would do in normal mode
[13:25] <DeaDSouL> hateball: it has an old windows.. i tried to boot it and it worked... then tried fsck.ext4 from recovery mode, and fixed 4 bad blocks
[13:25] <hateball> Well you will want to run fsck from a live media
[13:26] <DeaDSouL> ikonia: how to verify it in normal mode when it logs me out after logging in by micro-seconds
[13:27] <ikonia> DeaDSouL: just verify the permissions and file system integrity
[13:28] <DeaDSouL> ikonia: yes, but how?
[13:28] <DeaDSouL> ikonia: it doesn't let have any access in normal mode
[13:28] <DeaDSouL> ikonia: let me*
[13:29] <ikonia> DeaDSouL: right, so you can confirm you can touch / create files in recovery mode to prove the file system is ok, you can then visually check the permissions for the user you are logging in as
[13:30] <Tucker> what is Compositor in the new Ubuntu 16.04?
[13:31] <DeaDSouL> ikonia: the permissions looks ok for root in recovery mode
[13:33] <DeaDSouL> ikonia: i'm sorry... but what else can I do now bro?
[13:34] <ff_> hello
[13:36] <ff_> quit
[13:48] <cuaox> hi, can anyone answer my question on askubuntu? i have asked it 3 days ago and still no answer http://askubuntu.com/questions/812244/games-freezing-after-some-time-on-steam-audio-works-can-move-coursor-around
[13:49] <hateball> cuaox: what driver are you using?
[13:50] <cuaox> i have open source driver
[13:50] <cuaox> i also installed amd gpu pro but this did not help
[13:51] <hateball> cuaox: I see. Are you on default 16.04 kernel?
[13:51] <cuaox> yes
[13:51] <cuaox> all i installed after switching to xfce from unity was steam and amdgpu pro
[13:52] <cuaox> but as i mentioned amd gpu pro didnt help
[13:52] <hateball> cuaox: I suppose you could try using a mainline kernel for an updated radeon driver
[13:52] <hateball> !mainline
[13:52] <hateball> cuaox: I only use nvidia/intel myself so my amd knowledge is limited
[13:54] <cuaox> but in uname
[13:54] <cuaox> my kernel is 4.4
[13:54] <cuaox> newest in mainline is 3.13
[13:54] <cuaox> or maybe im checking something wrong?
[13:54] <cuaox> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/linux-3.13.y.z-queue/current/ i mean this one
[13:55] <cuaox> okay nevermind
[13:55] <cuaox> i did something wrong lol
[13:57] <hateball> cuaox: it is the first link on the page :p
[13:57] <cuaox> yep
[13:57] <cuaox> but im not sure it will help
[13:57] <cuaox> i was testing games on arch on 4.7 kernell
[13:57] <cuaox> and they crashed as well
[13:57] <hateball> cuaox: 4.8 is available tho
[13:57] <cuaox> yep
[13:57] <cuaox> okay I will try
[13:57] <hateball> but it is possible one needs newer mesa as well, I dunno
[13:58] <Malgorath> Does someone have a link to how to bind multiple address(range like 10.0.0.1 - 10.0.0.100) to a single NIC? I'm in 16.04 server(no desktop just CLI)
[13:58] <hateball> Malgorath: Are you looking for virtual ips?
[13:58] <Malgorath> hateball, no they are legit ips on my network, I'm just tired of adding them manually everytime I need another one
[14:00] <DeaDSouL> linux logs out immediately.. how to fix it ?
[14:00] <hateball> DeaDSouL: Did you liveboot and run fsck yet?
[14:00] <DeaDSouL> hateball: no, i'm downloading it
[14:00] <hateball> Malgorath: Do you use network-manager? I am assuming so
[14:01] <yuppie> in vim, how do i delete indentation (4 spaces) for the next 20 lines down?
[14:01] <Malgorath> hateball, actually I just edit my /etc/interfaces file when I need a new one
[14:01] <cuaox> okay im installing a new kernel
[14:02] <hateball> Malgorath: Then I am not sure what you are asking, if you already know how to add the IPs
[14:02] <cuaox> okay ill reboot now
[14:03] <Malgorath> hateball, I said a RANGE of ips, not just one at a time.
[14:03] <cuaox> okay got the 4.8 kernel lets check it out
[14:05] <hateball> Malgorath: only way I know of is to script that
[14:06] <cuaox> nope, installing newer kernel did not help
[14:06] <Malgorath> hateball, ah okay, I was wondering if I could without just cut and pasting in new entries
[14:06] <Malgorath> hateball, thanks
[14:07] <hateball> Malgorath: this has an example up top http://www.linuxscrew.com/2010/11/26/how-to-assign-range-of-ip-addresses-to-one-network-interface/
[14:07] <hateball> Malgorath: I was asking because I am unsure if nmcli has a command to do it as well
[14:07] <hateball> but that requires one to use network-manager ofc :)
[14:08] <Malgorath> hateball, wow nice script
[14:08] <Tucker> has anyone a solution to restore java apps from system tray in ubuntu 16.04?
[14:09] <hateball> Malgorath: note that it doesnt permanently populate /etc/network/interfaces tho, if you need that
[14:09] <hateball> Malgorath: I'd say this approach is more flexible
[14:09] <cuaox> hateball, you have any ideas instead of updating kernel?
[14:10] <Malgorath> hateball, yeah agreed, and I can just setup the script to auto run at boot
[14:10] <DeaDSouL> hateball: it's ready,.. what options should i use with fsck.ext4 ?
[14:10] <DeaDSouL> hateball: -c ? -f ? -D ? -p ?
[14:11] <DeaDSouL> hateball: /dev/sdX or /dev/sdXY ?
[14:12] <hateball> DeaDSouL: you'll want to check all your partitions, ideally
[14:13] <androOne> Who needs help
[14:13] <cuaox> i need it
[14:13] <hateball> DeaDSouL: so just "fsck -y /dev/sda1" for instance
[14:13] <DeaDSouL> hateball: ok thanks.. i will
[14:13] <hateball> DeaDSouL: repeat for all your ext* partitions
[14:13] <androOne> With what cuaox
[14:13] <DeaDSouL> i'll reconnect via irssi .... brb
[14:13] <cuaox> http://askubuntu.com/questions/812244/games-freezing-after-some-time-on-steam-audio-works-can-move-coursor-around  <-- with this one, tried everything, still not working
[14:14] <beeray> hello, Pls I need help in resolving my touchpad because I am not seeing the cursor after suspend.
[14:14] <hateball> cuaox: Sorry no more ideas, as I said I am an nvidia/intel guy
[14:15] <cuaox> sure, just asking maybe someone else can help
[14:15] <cuaox> thanks anyway
[14:15] <androOne> Sorry cuaox i dont have that much time
[14:15] <androOne> Beeray restarting fixes most problems
[14:15] <cuaox> :
[14:16] <cuaox> (
[14:16] <cuaox> okay, i will ask some other time
[14:16] <hateball> cuaox: all I have heard of is padoka ppa, but it is a !ppa after all https://launchpad.net/~paulo-miguel-dias/+archive/ubuntu/mesa
[14:17] <beeray> @andro0ne. but I am always working on the system and I need the work to be as it is after I opened the laptop
[14:17] <cuaox> hmm quite interesting
[14:17] <cuaox> i will take a look into it
[14:20] <aredpanda`w> Where can one configure an automatic mount on boot other than rc.local or fstab?
[14:22] <cuaox> how do i install the mesa package from padoka ppa?
[14:22] <cuaox> apt-get install mesa doesnt work
[14:25] <djvdorp> did you add the ppa first and run apt-get update?
[14:25] <ExecSlim> Cuaox: https://www.epicgames.com/unrealtournament/forums/showthread.php?23665-How-to-update-Open-Source-graphic-driver-in-Ubuntu
[14:29] <rexwin_> I have ubuntu minimal installed without desktop. is there a way to install minimal desktop without any extra packages?
[14:30] <beeray> hello, Pls I need help in resolving my touchpad because I am not seeing the cursor after suspend.
[14:32] <ioria> beeray, switch to a console and back to the X session
[14:33] <beeray> ioria, pls how do I do that
[14:33] <ioria> beeray, ctrl+alt+f1 (or f2)  and then ctrl+alt+f6 (or f7)
[14:33] <beeray> i've tried diff approach before using the terminal
[14:34] <alias_> BUG: soft lockup - CPU#8 stuck for 22s! [nrsysmond:1463]
[14:34] <beeray> I'm using xubuntu 16.04 with xfce
[14:34] <als> hello all
[14:34] <alias_> what does the application between brackets mean? Was the lockup caused by nrsysmond? Or was nrsysmond just doing cpu time at the moment the lockup occurred?
[14:35] <als> i have a question, i am sure all people here do, so how does it work? before i get myself in trouble :P
[14:36] <Guest10833> what
[14:38] <beeray> hello, Pls I need help in resolving my touchpad because I am not seeing the cursor after suspend.
[14:38] <ioria> beeray, have you tried what i suggest you ?
[14:39] <als> i recently started getting a small popup window when i boot my ubuntu, "System program problem detected", with button Report problem or cancel. When i click report i am asked for my root password. I am in doubt to enter my password, so my question is how can i know which program is requesting this or have this issue?
[14:39] <als> using 16.04
[14:40] <beeray> ioria, how do I switch to console frm x pls
[14:40] <ioria> beeray, ctrl+alt+f1 (or f2)  and then ctrl+alt+f6 (or f7)
[14:44] <Tucker> could anyone who has Kubuntu 16.04 installed restore java apps from system tray?
[14:44] <Guest10833> als: check /var/crash
[14:47] <yzapanta_> hello
[14:47] <Mojtaba> Hello, I am using system proxy by ssh, and the problem is that thunderbird gives me connection refused for gmail. Do you know what should I do?
[14:49] <xgpt> hey everyone! I would like to pose a question to you all. Is there a way to disable all networking on a debian/ubuntu system? I would like to install the OS, then install my applications, and then DISABLE networking on the device to users. I want this to hold across reboots. I want to be able to re-enable networking, but I want that to take another manual intervention to re-enable.
[14:49] <Guest10833> I  meant, check the contents of the /var/crash directory
[14:49] <Guest10833> ls /var/crash
[14:54] <beeray> ioria, thank you
[14:55] <ioria> beeray, it's a bug, take a read if you want https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1573454
[14:59] <joelio> xgpt: sure, remove the network cable :)
[15:00] <mgaunard_> hello, I'm using Ubuntu 16.04 with Gnome Flashback, nvidia drivers and 3 monitors
[15:00] <mgaunard_> my desktop is extremely slow and I believe that's because of Mir
[15:00] <mgaunard_> is there a way to switch back to X11
[15:00] <k1l> mgaunard_: there is no MIR in use
[15:01] <k1l> mgaunard_: ubuntu still ships xorg as the regular xserver for all desktops. MIR is only used with unity8 on the phones and tablets yet. you would have to install and use unity8 manually to use mir.
[15:02] <mgaunard_> yet when I run applications like metacity it gives me Mir-related messages
[15:03] <Mojtaba> Hello, I am using system proxy by ssh, and the problem is that thunderbird gives me connection refused for gmail. Do you know what should I do?
[15:03] <k1l> mgaunard_: what messages?
[15:04] <DeaDSouL> hi, i tried fsck.ext4 -fc, -fDy, -fp... they all says that i do have 3 bad blocks... how can I fix them?
[15:05] <mgaunard__> can't connect to Mir, but I guess that's normal
[15:05] <mgaunard__> running metacity --replace kills my whole X session, it didn't use to do that
[15:06] <k1l> mgaunard__: what is the exact message from what command?
[15:06] <k1l> mgaunard__: is the guest account working normal?
[15:07] <mgaunard__> all sessions are slow
[15:07] <mgaunard__> unity-settings-daemon seems to frequently crash when initializing a session too
[15:07] <mgaunard__> gnome-panel also seems to crash often
[15:10] <k1l> mgaunard__: what video card is it? what driver is it?
[15:10] <mgaunard_> I already said nvidia driver
[15:10] <k1l> like there is just one nvidia video driver version....
[15:10] <mgaunard_> it's a Quadro NVS 450
[15:11] <mgaunard_> 340.96 if that matters...
[15:11] <mgaunard_> xinerama with 3 screens
[15:11] <mgaunard_> one X screen per screen
[15:11] <mgaunard_> I didn't have problems with previous ubuntu versions
[15:14] <k1l> mgaunard_: see if this helps: http://askubuntu.com/a/768519/31260
[15:16] <mgaunard_> I don't have problems running applications
[15:16] <mgaunard_> I have stability and performance problems
[15:20] <helppls> I'm trying to run https://github.com/skorokithakis/catt but i can't get it to run, the pip install worked at least
[15:23] <kyle__> What should the ownership be of the files in /usr/share/fonts|/usr/local/share/fonts ?
[15:24] <kyle__> mine are a bunch of random GIDs that aren't on my system....
[15:25] <_adb> kyle__: owned root:root on my system
[15:25] <craptalk> how can i access trash via terminal?
[15:25] <helppls> I see a ~/.local/lib/python3.5/site-packages/catt directory but i don't know how to run it..
[15:25] <_adb> kyle__: with permissions 755
[15:25] <Seveas> craptalk: cd .local/share/Trash
[15:25] <kyle__> Herumm.
[15:25] <kyle__> Thanks.
[15:25] <Tucker> which was the default font used in kubuntu 14.04 in kde?
[15:26] <Seveas> kyle__: that sounds suspicious. Can you pastebin an ls -lR /usr/share/fonts ?
[15:26] <craptalk> Seveas: cant
[15:26] <craptalk> no such trash
[15:26] <_adb> kyle__: correction; the directories are 755. the regular files are 644
[15:27] <helppls> the solution was: the script was in ~/.local/bin
[15:27] <zetheroo> trying to share a folder in 16.04 using the Local Network Share dialog - the share shows up on other machines but access is denied
[15:27] <Seveas> craptalk: then you're not on Ubuntu :)
[15:27] <craptalk> Seveas: i am using ubuntu, lubuntu precisely
[15:27] <kyle__> http://paste.lisp.org/display/323473
[15:27] <Seveas> lubuntu != ubuntu
[15:28] <Seveas> lxde may have a different location for the trash
[15:29] <craptalk> Seveas: you are right, i am wrong
[15:29] <craptalk> now i get it
[15:29] <Seveas> kyle__: that looks like filesizes. I think you aliased 'ls' to something, can you try /bin/ls -l
[15:29] <craptalk> why is it .local, being hidden?
[15:29] <Seveas> craptalk: convention on linux systems is that filenames that start with a . are hidden
[15:30] <craptalk> Seveas: why?
[15:30] <kyle__> alias ls='ls -aFG --color'
[15:30] <craptalk> privacy?
[15:30] <Seveas> kyle__: there we go :) it's the -G
[15:30] <kyle__> Crap.  I added G when flipping between systems.
[15:30] <Seveas> craptalk: clutter.
[15:30]  * kyle__ sighs
[15:30] <MikeHill> Hello all :D
[15:30]  * Seveas hugs kyle__ 
[15:31] <kyle__> Thanks man.
[15:31] <Seveas> craptalk: there's lots of those files in your homedir that you rarely need to do anything with. So why show them by default?
[15:31] <craptalk> Seveas: so cause it will be clutter some, then they are all being hidden?
[15:31] <Seveas> craptalk: yup.
[15:31] <MikeHill> I would just like to know what is the gzcat command and zcat command and what you can use it for?
[15:32] <zil> Hi, I have a few random Ubuntu boxes with different hosters that have eth0/en0 wlan... They work great, but, I want to be able to access each box on my local network and ideally enable SAMBA/NFS on just a secondary interface... (remote backup boxes/storage nodes). I'm going in loops looking at vpn-tools/libresawn/stronswan etc. and I was wondering if anyone can recommend what package is best
[15:32] <suspence> My laptop freezes when resuming from 'pm-suspend'. Specifically, it turns on, but only a white cursor appears on the otherwise black screen. If I 'pm-suspend' from a text display (tty1), the console reappears when the system resumes, asking for my password. I can type, but entering my password does nothing. After about 10 seconds the keyboard stops responding.
[15:32] <zil> to create an always on IPSEC(or better?) tunnel back to my house?
[15:32] <craptalk> Seveas: if i remove the files permanently, is it truly permanently that files are gone? or can it be recovered?
[15:32] <Seveas> MikeHill: with zcat you can display compressed files on your terminal
[15:32] <craptalk> some say, they can reform the files pattern
[15:33] <Seveas> craptalk: just removing them merely unlinks them from the filesystem hierarchy and a data recovery specialist can recover the contents. To permanently delete data, overwrite it several times with a tool like shred.
[15:33] <MikeHill> ok I will try the command one sec
[15:34] <craptalk> Seveas: who can i overwrite it, if they are removed from the hierarchy? where is the place of the removed files go, so that i can overwrite it?
[15:34] <craptalk> how can i*
[15:34] <Seveas> zil: ipsec can be a pain to set up, but strongswan is easiest of the lot.
[15:34] <Seveas> craptalk: you would overwrite before removing.
[15:35] <craptalk> Seveas: thats it?
[15:35] <craptalk> Seveas: how many times?
[15:35] <ioria> craptalk, man shred
[15:35] <Seveas> craptalk: 6 is the shred default I believe
[15:35] <craptalk> is there shred tool that i can install?
[15:36] <Seveas> !info shred
[15:36] <Seveas> hmm
[15:36] <ioria> it's in coreutils
[15:36] <Pici> I think its in coreutls
[15:36] <Seveas> ah
[15:36] <ioria> it's installed by default
[15:37] <Seveas> craptalk: it's already there. as ioria said, the 'man shred' command will help
[15:37] <craptalk> ok, sorry didnt notice
[15:37] <craptalk> thanks
[15:37] <joelio> it's in coreutils as Pici said
[15:38] <MikeHill> @Seveas @Ubuntu16:~/Desktop$ gzcat vmware-tools-distrib.tar.gz  No command 'gzcat' found, did you mean:
[15:38] <MikeHill> can you give me an example of how to us ethe command?
[15:38] <zil> seveas: thanks, I'll try to find some configs and get it working
[15:39] <joelio> MikeHill: that's what's known as a tarball file, it's a compressed tar archive.. note the .tar.gz extension. The file is gzipped and a tar. What do you want to do, uncompress it?
[15:39] <Seveas> MikeHill: you don't want to use gzcat or zcat there, as that would display gobbledygook on your terminal.
[15:40] <niko> Â§1Â°
[15:40] <MikeHill> all I am trying to do is learn how to use the gzcat and zcat command?
[15:40] <MikeHill> ;)
[15:40] <joelio> well zcat is got use on gzipped text
[15:40] <joelio> like compressed documentation
[15:40] <MikeHill> can ya give me an example?
[15:41] <joelio> zcat {file.gz}
[15:41] <MikeHill> of the command
[15:41] <craptalk> Seveas: well, after i did the shred, then i safely delete it? cause even the recovery specialist would have recovered it, the pattern is not gonna be easy to make it back?
[15:41] <MikeHill> will try 1 sec
[15:41] <joelio> MikeHill: or you can pipe into another command.. if you're using tar though, use tar to uncompress it
[15:41] <joelio> tar xvzf file.tar.gz
[15:42] <Seveas> craptalk: once shredded, you can delete the file. I thought shred did that, but haven't used it in ages :)
[15:42] <joelio> MikeHill: zcat /usr/share/doc/bash/README.commands.gz
[15:42] <Seveas> I use an encrypted harddrive instead :)
[15:42] <craptalk> Seveas: okay, but do you know where the normal way of deleted files go?
[15:43] <joelio> Seveas: shred just writes random and zeros or a combination and in a loop N times (10 if DoD.. well, used to be until easier methods found)
[15:44] <suspence> my laptop freezes when resuming from 'pm-suspend'.
[15:45] <Lodiz> irc.sfml-dev.org
[15:46] <Warcop> Hi! I've been searching the web and getting lots of different results. Does anyone have a link to a concise way to get WebEx working on 16.04?
[15:50] <joelio> Warcop: have you tried Cisco? :) what's the issue - I guess.. always had trouble with Webex on linux
[15:50] <joelio> OSX, just works, but linux a pain
[16:03] <suspence> Hey all, my laptop freezes when resuming suspend. How can I start approaching this problem? Thanks!
[16:10] <redtuxedocash> how can i turn my bluetooth on?
[16:10] <redtuxedocash> i cant find the settings
[16:10] <redtuxedocash> i am using lubuntu 16.04
[16:13] <emersont1> in my kdenlive, the audio isn't working during playback, is there a set of steps for debugging, i've tried switching audio drivers, and restarted after each, and still no joy. The ALSA is working, as i can listen out of other programs
[16:14] <skweeek> Anybody think they can help me set up my webcam I have a built-in webcam on the front and the back of my laptop doesn't show up
[16:18] <taiga7232> i wanted to play chocolate-doom on lubuntu here and it sux because i can't use number keys that are above the letter
[16:18] <taiga7232>                    keys to change the weapons. i use slovak layout so that is the problem i confirmed with the authors of the program also. so my question is, how do i
[16:19] <taiga7232> change the keyboard layout to e.g. german so that the program would accept it? i tried in lxpanel but that didn't help. please help me
[16:19] <taiga7232> also hi
[16:20] <lightbee> ..
[16:20] <lightbee> hello
[16:23] <vahe> hi, ssh works if I connect eth0 if you connect to the Internet with wlan0 not working , ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.101 port 22: No route to host
[16:23] <vahe> ubuntu unity 14.04.5
[16:23] <emersont1> does anyone have a good NL video editor they swear by, as KDEnlive isn't working
[16:23] <MonkeyDust> emersont1  try openshot
[16:23] <sorinello> Hello. Which is the best way to install a text only ubuntu 16.04 ? I need it for build purposes, so GUI/X is needed
[16:24] <MonkeyDust> !mini | sorinello
[16:24] <sorinello> thanks !
[16:36] <jordila> hi #ubuntu community, just installing  release 16 ...
[16:37] <jordila> curious about the fact that, upon fresh install... after 'apt-get dist-upgrade'... am i getting linux-image-generic 4.4.0-31  moving to --> 4.4.0-34 ?
[16:37] <popey> thats perfectly normal jordila
[16:37] <popey> just bug fixes, security updates etc
[16:37] <jordila> aha
[16:37] <jordila> ..trying to learn of
[16:38] <jordila> popey... so, is it a kernel upgrade, right ?
[16:38] <popey> yes
[16:38] <popey> a very minor one
[16:38] <jordila> yep
[16:38] <jordila> nice to know
[16:39] <jordila> BTW, i'm planning to deploy several Ubuntu / PC's in my daughter school...
[16:39] <andro_> hello
[16:39] <jordila> any hints on how to make it sustainable from maintenance perspective ?
[16:40] <jordila> MMMh Backups / snapshots tools ... or remote management stuff like ?
[16:40] <jordila> hello andreo_
[16:40] <jordila> andro_
[16:40] <Guest28353> nihao
[16:40] <DArqueBishop> jordila: you could try Puppet.
[16:40] <OerHeks> !edubuntu
[16:40] <jordila> ah... Puppet... i've heard about it
[16:41] <jordila> thanks ubottu
[16:41] <Guest28353> from?
[16:41] <OerHeks> not only learning tools, classroom server also maintanance ( if the hardware is equal it is fun)
[16:42] <redtuxedocash> how can i turn my bluetooth on?
[16:42] <redtuxedocash> i am using lubuntu 16.04
[16:42] <redtuxedocash> i cant find the settings
[16:43] <OerHeks> redtuxedocash, looks easy > http://lubuntuhowto.blogspot.nl/2015/06/how-to-setup-bluetooth-on-lubuntu.html
[16:45] <redtuxedocash> bluez daemon is not running
[16:45] <redtuxedocash> how can i get it running?
[16:45] <redtuxedocash> i got that error when i clicked the bluetooth settings
[16:45] <ubuntu> hi
[16:45] <Guest19491> hi
[16:45] <redtuxedocash> bluetooth ~
[16:51] <wildmanron> Hello to whom ever I am suppose to talk to I have never used this thing before so not sure what to do. I am haveing trouble with my ubuntu14.04
[16:57] <taiga7232> nobody knows the answer?
[16:59] <SchrodingersScat> !ask | wildmanron
[16:59] <SchrodingersScat> !patience | taiga7232
[17:00] <root2> hey man
[17:00] <_KaLiF> hey root
[17:00] <taiga7232> oh. and i thought waiting 42 minutes was enough
[17:00] <root2> this was just  test nice
[17:00] <root2> see you guys later
[17:00] <root2> bye
[17:02] <SchrodingersScat> taiga7232: can ask again, if anyone knows they'll respond
[17:03] <wildmanron1> Hello to whom ever i need to talk to I have never used this thing before so kind of lost I am having trouble with my ubuntu 14.04
[17:05] <taiga7232> so like.. i wanted to play chocolate-doom but i use slovak keyboard layout. that means that i have to press shift to get the numbers on my laptop. the game does not accept that. changing the layout with lxpanel does not work. the setting gets ignored by the game. so how do i change the keyb layout setting so that it sees the keyboard as english or german or whatever. halp pl0x!1!!!!1
[17:06] <_adb> taiga7232: "setxkbmap en" will set your keyboard layout to english
[17:06] <taiga7232> wildmanron1: there is a paid support option. or you could try asking a _specific_ question _here_. don't be shy
[17:06] <SchrodingersScat> !details | wildmanron1
[17:07] <_adb> taiga7232: see "man setxkbmap" if you would like to see more options about keyboard layout and configuring a key to toggle between layouts
[17:07] <taiga7232> _adb: tried that already. didn't help. the game keeps using slovak layout
[17:07] <wildmanron1> I upgraded to 16.04 and my system would go to sleep mode and it wouldn't wake up so i reinstalled my 14.04 cause i never had any trouble with it doing that now it wont wake up
[17:08] <_adb> taiga7232: is it a slovak keyboard? how did you get it using that layout?
[17:09] <wrkrcoop> hello!
[17:09] <taiga7232> i set up slovak "regional settings" at installation time
[17:09] <wrkrcoop> when i try to build this dockerfile, it errors out with a non-zero code of 1
[17:09] <wrkrcoop> can anyone take a look at this snippet and see if something looks wrong? im a linux noob https://gist.github.com/ellismarte/db5f0ef0cc0ba7dc68678baec8da8914#file-gistfile1-txt-L12-L21
[17:09] <_adb> taiga7232: in that case, i do not know how to change those settings. perhaps others on this channel can help... sorry
[17:10] <taiga7232> tanks anyway _adb
[17:12] <ioria> taiga7232, i think you need to install the english package language, before switch to the en keyaboard
[17:14] <taiga7232> ioria: i thought english gets installed by default. maybe i misunderstood what you said
[17:15] <wildmanron1> ok what is a pastebin i am new at this stuff
[17:15] <ioria> taiga7232,  do you have the keyboard icon in the task bar ? if you press it, do you see 'en' ?
[17:15] <taiga7232> ioria: i see US when i press it. pressing again shows SK
[17:17] <ioria> taiga7232,  ok, when selected to 'US', and you type the  keys, does it works ?
[17:18] <taiga7232> ioria: yep. everywhere except for fullscreen games
[17:25] <wildmanron1> so do i have to pay to ask questions here i not understanding i love Ubuntu Linux and would love to keep using it but i need some help to fix a problem with the sleep mode deal and where do i find the pastebin
[17:25] <nacc> !paste | wildmanron1: for the latter.
[17:26] <OerHeks> wildmanron1, that 'paid' was a joke from that guy
[17:27] <OerHeks> sleep/hybernate is terrible @ ubuntu
[17:27] <OerHeks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelSuspend
[17:27] <rp2> is there any way I can see how long a given process has been blocking on the current system call it is trying to execute?
[17:28] <wildmanron1> ok i have some info on the problem so i just paste it to the pastebin and tell you where it is i am kind of new to this stuff guys so any help would be appreciated
[17:30] <SchrodingersScat> wildmanron1: yep, pick a pastebin, supply the link
[17:31] <wildmanron1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23065215/
[17:31] <mandla> Hello trying to use vpnc to connect but im getting vpnc: response was invalid [1]:  (ISAKMP_N_INVALID_EXCHANGE_TYPE)(7)
[17:31] <mandla> On 16.04
[17:32] <wildmanron1> i guess this is how it works
[17:33] <wildmanron1> what other files do i need to show for the problem
[17:41] <Mojtaba> Hello, I am using system proxy by ssh, and the problem is that thunderbird gives me connection refused for gmail. Do you know what should I do?
[17:42] <ggnoredo> I can't connect to a L2TP VPN on 16.04.1. I googled but no luck
[17:44] <SchrodingersScat> Mojtaba: i would try to reach it via a browser and see if it's giving you a warning/captcha.
[17:46] <notdaniel> any recommendation for an audio player that's good about keeping your library/tags organized, and that isnt rhythmbox? hah
[17:47] <notdaniel> always liked banshee but looks like nobody's updated it for a couple years
[17:47] <Guest62092> deadbeef is pretty good
[17:48] <notdaniel> Guest62092, thanks, that looks slick. and actively maintained
[17:49] <wildmanron1> i just tried to bring up the pm-suspend.log but it says there isn't anything in it.
[17:56] <DeaDSouL> hi, in /var/log/syslog .. it says : 'EXT4-fs (sda5): re-mounted. Opts: errors=remount-ro' .......... is it normal ? could be the one causing the system to log me out immediately every time i login?
[17:58] <OerHeks> DeaDSouL, sure, check the health of the hdd/sda5 with live iso
[17:58] <DeaDSouL> OerHeks: OerHeks how can i check the health of sda5 ?
[17:59] <OerHeks> in live iso, disks > smart
[17:59] <OerHeks> maybe shutdown dirty, run fsck then
[17:59] <OerHeks> !fsck
[18:03] <DeaDSouL> OerHeks: I'm using smartctl ... what options do you recommend to check the health of sda5?
[18:03] <OerHeks> .. just told you .. what are the other channels suggesting? you are crossposting everywhere
[18:05] <DeaDSouL> OerHeks: because the problem still exists
[18:05] <en1gma> is there a version of ubuntu that will work on cherry trail netbook that has detachable keyboard?
[18:05] <DeaDSouL> OerHeks: the fsck didn't help that much
[18:05] <DeaDSouL> OerHeks: yes it made be able to login.... but the system logs me back out immediately
[18:05] <en1gma> 2GB ram
[18:07] <DeaDSouL> en1gma: see: http://puri.sm
[18:08] <renn0xtk9> folks I format a USB key in ext4, it is mounted in /media/$USER/ under a folder that belongs to root and is all read only < WTF ?
[18:09] <mandla> Hello trying to use vpnc to connect but im getting vpnc: response was invalid [1]:  (ISAKMP_N_INVALID_EXCHANGE_TYPE)(7)
[18:09] <DeaDSouL> renn0xtk9: check the mounted options... `mount | grep /dev/sdX`
[18:10] <brian_> I'm using the "mini.iso" image to install xenial in expert mode (long story). Which kernel is the best option? linux-generic-lts-xenial? linux-image-extra-lts-xenial?
[18:10] <ovrflw0x> sup dauuugs
[18:12] <DeaDSouL> renn0xtk9: and make sure usb files/folders owners or the group they belong to. have the same userid (uid) that your user has
[18:13] <brian_> Ah, and a little more googling gives the answer: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1560786
[18:13] <ananke> anybody familiar with booting ubuntu/debian installer via pxe? i'm wondering if it's possible to get a GUI installer via that method. is it a matter of using different initrd? passing certain options to the installer?
[18:15] <Guest62092> how to recover recently deleted file?
[18:15] <Guest62092> on ubuntu
[18:15] <nacc> Guest62092: how did you delete it?
[18:16] <Guest62092> shift + delete
[18:16] <Mojtaba> SchrodingersScat: I have tried browser, no capcha, nothing
[18:16] <nacc> ananke: it depends on which installer you are booting, probably
[18:17] <ananke> nacc: using the netboot one. so it's a matter of the installer choice?
[18:18] <nacc> Guest62092: i think shift + delete pops up a warning saying it's permanently lost (at least in nautilus)
[18:18] <renn0xtk9> Deadsoul mount | grep >  /dev/sdc1 on /media/max/95f5c9bb-6ce5-499d-ad4c-c75b322beea1 type ext4 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks2)
[18:19] <dusty> I have been directed here by a friend who told me someone on here might be able to help me with my issue. I am trying to install Postfix and Dovecot with MySQL as database. This seems like a simple task but unfortunatly i have one more request. It has to be done completely without SSL Certificate. Would any of you be able to guide me in the right direction, i have been spending 4 days installing, reinstalling and configuring without
[18:19] <dusty> luck.
[18:19] <nacc> ananke: which ubuntu? server, desktop, etc.?
[18:19] <renn0xtk9> and when I sudo chmod -R 775 95f5c9bb-6ce5-499d-ad4c-c75b322beea1/ it stays "root root " :S
[18:19] <Guest62092> nacc, i understand, but anyway in linux there no analog of recuva?
[18:19] <Mojtaba> Hello, I am using system proxy by ssh, and the problem is that thunderbird gives me connection refused for gmail. Do you know what should I do?
[18:20] <ananke> nacc: desktop. i didn't realize there was a difference in the installers, since netboot seems to address both desktop & server simply by package selection. i've been using ubuntu/dists/xenial-updates/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/
[18:21] <akik> Guest62092: photorec reads disks and brings back files
[18:22] <akik> Guest62092: the files lose their original name
[18:22] <Guest62092> akik, thank you a lot )
[18:23] <_KaLiF> j'aurai kiffé me balader un alligator comme animal de compagnie enville
[18:23] <akik> Guest62092: just don't use the disk that you want to recover from
[18:23] <hi-liter99> howdy folks
[18:24] <Guest62092> akik, understood, thx again
[18:24] <nacc> ananke: so if you pxe boot right now, you are prompted for the installer, just hte text mode one?
[18:24] <ananke> nacc: correct
[18:25] <nacc> ananke: why do you want the GUI installer? just wondering
[18:25] <dusty> please tell me if im in the wrong place
[18:26] <ovrflw0x> dusty busty
[18:26] <nacc> ananke: i think the issue you may be hitting is the netboot installer is text mode only, afaik
[18:26] <_KaLiF> dutsy dostana
[18:26] <ananke> nacc: assisting our helpdesk. i've automated installs for vms with preseed, and i'm re-using a lot of this work to help our helpdesk deploy workstations. sadly, debian installer doesn't have inherent ability to deal with resizing existing filesystems, so that part of the install has to be done by hand
[18:26] <ananke> nacc: GUI for that part would make life easier for them
[18:26] <terrible> is there a free vpn service that i can use it for download torrent?
[18:27] <K1du> Hello
[18:27] <_KaLiF> i have french vpn
[18:27] <_KaLiF> terrible,
[18:27] <sulfasal> anybody using the Yandex Browser? I went to the site and downloaded the debx64 package, twice, but it didn't show up in my Downloads folder, or anywhere for that matter.
[18:27] <_KaLiF> jcvpn.com terrible
[18:28] <nacc> ananke: i think the only option you'd have is to netboot the livecd kernel & initrd, rather than the netboot/netinstall ones
[18:28] <K1du> can some1 help me with one issue ?
[18:28] <nacc> ananke: i'm not 100% sure if that will work
[18:28] <_KaLiF> jcvpn.com is terrible
[18:28] <ananke> nacc: and yes, i'm starting to arrive at the same conclusion. i'm used to other distros, where same set of installers can be used for both GUI and text/ncurses mode, it's a simple matter of throwing an option
[18:28] <sulfasal> hey wheres my nick?
[18:28] <sulfasal> just seeing <    >
[18:28] <Grorco> does anyone know if there is a way to make one workspace that sits below any other ones. I want ctrl+alt+down to always go to this
[18:28] <dusty> K1du: What issue?
[18:29] <MonkeyDust> Grorco  in Unity?
[18:29] <Grorco> I'm using compiz right now sorry meant to put that in there
[18:29] <K1du> im using dual win 7 and ubuntu 16.04 i screwed up by tryng to install the latest plasma 5 and the repos gone nuts , now i want to reinstall it , is there any way that i can remove the OS from windows and install a fresc copy on the same partition ?
[18:30] <sulfasal> hmm, my nick 'sulfasal' appears in the list up top, this is weird.
[18:30] <MonkeyDust> Grorco  ok, but in unity, with the bar on the left? if yes, unity tweak tool can set the number of workspaces
[18:30] <hi-liter99> I have two local servers and both do not have the firewall enabled, but I can not access port 80 or nodejs port 3050 from the browsers --> http://pastebin.com/jhRbHfaA
[18:31] <terrible> _KaLiF, that service is free?? and can i use it for download torrent anonymously?
[18:31] <dusty> K1du: you want to reinstall ubuntu on the same drive and keep it in the windows boot loader option menu?
[18:31] <Mojtaba> Hello, I am using system proxy by ssh, and the problem is that thunderbird gives me connection refused for gmail. Do you know what should I do?
[18:31] <hi-liter99> does tcp6 on both ports have anything to do with that?
[18:31] <_KaLiF> terrible : privqte m
[18:32] <K1du> dusty: i understand thatwhen i remove the OS from win 7 options the grub dissapears , but i dont hink that would be a problem since i will install it again right ?
[18:32] <K1du> I have read that if need the win repair disk to repair the startup menu , thing that i dont have also .
[18:33] <Grorco> MonkeyDust, using mate I don't remember what version of gnome that is
[18:33] <hi-liter99> how would I change tcp6 to tcp in iptables?
[18:34] <dusty> K1du: if you install it on the same disk it will by my experience just work without you having to edit in the win7 boot menu
[18:34] <Grorco> MonkeyDust, I made two rows of workspaces and put one on the bottom but ctrl+alt+down only goes to it if it's under the first workspace
[18:34] <MonkeyDust> Grorco  ok, so Mate... there's something called 'mate tweak tool', install that
[18:35] <MonkeyDust> Grorco  yes, if you press down, you go down
[18:35] <Grorco> MonkeyDust, I already have it
[18:35] <K1du> dusty: when i have tryed to reinstall it shows me the option for dual to install along the old ubuntu os . and win doesnt appear
[18:35] <DexterF> hi
[18:35] <DexterF> thinkpad t61, lspci says "intel 4965 AG or AGN" - well, which is it? how to tell?
[18:36] <Grorco> MonkeyDust, I can't go down from all workspaces though thats what I'm trying to achive
[18:36] <Grorco> to the same one
[18:36] <dusty> K1du: windows will not appear, thats normal. You just remove the old ubuntu installation and install it to same disk / location.
[18:37] <K1du> dusty: didnt made any changes yet.
[18:37] <DeaDSouL> renn0xtk9: sorry i was away, try `ls -n PATH-TO-USB-MOUNT-POINT` and compare it to your uid by: `id`
[18:38] <K1du> dusty: how do i do that ? i just remove it from the win7 start menu , i dont remember right now where that was in msconfig i guess , just delete it from there to stop showing it in the grub ? and then try install the new one ?
[18:38] <Grorco> so right now I have 3 workspaces in the top row, and 1 in the bottom. I want ctrl+alt+down to goto the one on the bottom from all three of the top workspaces and that doesn't work
[18:38] <Evanw> Anyone wanna answer one question for me.  I'm new to Linux
[18:38] <Evanw> It's probably an easy one
[18:39] <MonkeyDust> Evanw  let's here it, in one line
[18:39] <MonkeyDust> hear*
[18:39] <dusty> K1du: basic... yes thats about it. If it goes wrong you can always add it with EasyBCD Editor
[18:39] <Evanw> How do I get permission everything in /  not just /root or /home. I need both on the same user to move files
[18:40] <dusty> Evanw: yes
[18:40] <K1du> dusty: i will google that i dont know what is it
[18:40] <MonkeyDust> Evanw  use sudo to get root permission
[18:40] <Evanw> I can log in as root.  Then what do I do.
[18:41] <Evanw> Or do I log in as home and sudo to root?
[18:41] <Grorco> Evanw, you don't want to login as root
[18:41] <dusty> K1du: its an easy tool to use. Yes a google search will give you all the info you need :)
[18:41] <K1du> dusty: ok thank you i wil go try that
[18:41] <Grorco> Evanw, what program are you using to move files with?
[18:41] <MonkeyDust> Evanw  it's extremely dangerous and not adviced to login as root
[18:41] <Evanw> I want to sue Filezilla to move 5 folders from root to home
[18:42] <Evanw> Use*
[18:42] <dusty> Evanw: if you are able to login as root you did something wrong when you installed the os. for security reasons never allow direct root login. Always use sudo.
[18:42] <MonkeyDust> Evanw  *move* from to home?
[18:42] <rexwin_> I am using mousepad to open some file but it always open as plain text and to see the formatting I switch the file type to sh( for bash script) to see it
[18:42] <MonkeyDust> Evanw  *move* from root to home?
[18:42] <rexwin_> any way to resolve this?
[18:42] <Evanw> Yes monkey
[18:42] <Grorco> Evanw, use gksudo to open filezilla
[18:42] <intrusive> Hello!
[18:42]  * intrusive waves
[18:42] <dusty> K1du: no problem :)
[18:42] <intrusive> Question, is it smart to turn off multicast on ubuntu?
[18:43] <MonkeyDust> Grorco Evanw don't use nautilus with root permission
[18:43] <intrusive> I was to do it, to shrink my log file for UFW.
[18:43] <squinty> DexterF,  in terminal copy/paste the following and see what it says dmesg | grep -i wireless
[18:43] <intrusive> want*
[18:43] <dusty> so back to my own question: I have been directed here by a friend who told me someone on here might be able to help me with my issue. I am trying to install Postfix and Dovecot with MySQL as database. This seems like a simple task but unfortunatly i have one more request. It has to be done completely without SSL Certificate. Would any of you be able to guide me in the right direction, i have been spending 4 days installing,
[18:43] <dusty> reinstalling and configuring without any luck.
[18:43] <Pici> Evanw: where does filezilla come into this? Are you remoting into another machine?
[18:43] <Evanw> Yes centos is a remote machine
[18:44] <Pici> Evanw: and you want to download files to where?
[18:44] <Evanw> But I can move everything with terminal if someone can tell me how
[18:44] <Evanw> I want to move their directory within the same server
[18:44] <sam__> Evanw: wht are u trying to do ?
[18:44] <Pici> Evanw: Where does Ubuntu come into all this?
[18:44] <DexterF> squinty, ah :) thanks
[18:44] <intrusive> Evanw: Rsync over SSH?
[18:45] <Evanw> I think I may have phrased my question wrong.  Bare in mind I am new to all of this.  I apologize
[18:45] <intrusive> Anyone know about multicast?
[18:45] <Grorco> Evanw, just open a terminal gksudo filezilla or whatever move the files you need to and don't muck it up
[18:46] <dusty> postfix dovecot anyone?
[18:46] <hi-liter99> can anyone help me with a tcp/ tcp6 issue?
[18:47] <sam__> just drop ur questions
[18:47] <intrusive> hi-liter99: Go for it, ask the room.
[18:48] <intrusive> dusty: You should try channels that are more for your services.
[18:48] <hi-liter99> intrusive: I have two local servers and both do not have the firewall enabled, but I can not access port 80 or nodejs port 3050 from the browsers --> http://pastebin.com/jhRbHfaA
[18:49] <hi-liter99> does tcp6 instead of tcp have anything to do with my above issue?
[18:49] <renn0xtk9> DeaDSoul seems it got a 0 while I got a 1000
[18:51] <DexterF> hi-liter99, i dont know if there is a telnet for v6, but can you telnet to that port?
[18:51] <DexterF> is it *only* v6?
[18:51] <Neon10> hi-liter99: have you check the open port on server? using ss or netstat?
[18:51] <Pici> hi-liter99: presumably you'd like those applications to listen for tcp4 connections too, you should verify those apps configs.
[18:52] <hi-liter99> Pici: so it has to do with apache2 and nodejs config files?
[18:54] <Pici> hi-liter99: yes
[18:54] <hi-liter99> netstat -ntl --> "tcp6       0      0 ::1:80               :::*                LISTEN"
[18:55] <hi-liter99> Pici: ok thanks, will check it out
[18:55] <DexterF> hi-liter99, traceroute6 finds it?
[19:01] <hi-liter99> Pici: changed Listen 80 to Listen 0.0.0.0:80  in apache2 ports.conf and restarted and now works
[19:01] <Pici> hi-liter99: great :)
[19:03] <cannibal> hello, having trouble with audio
[19:03] <cannibal> sound shows it is outputting audio and it works when i use headphone jack but not the actual speakers
[19:04] <MonkeyDust> cannibal  in a terminal, type    alsamixer
[19:04] <cannibal> it returns no such device
[19:04] <cannibal> cannot open mixer: No such device
[19:04] <cannibal> tried reinstalling it and purging it
[19:05] <cannibal> also tried
[19:05] <cannibal> sudo addgroup name audio
[19:05] <MonkeyDust> cannibal  what's the output of   cat /etc/issue
[19:06] <cannibal> Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS \n \l
[19:06] <cannibal> also im running ubuntu mate on an asus eee pc 1011px
[19:07] <cannibal> any ideas?
[19:10] <DeaDSouL> renn0xtk9: yeah, that's the problem... they belong to root, and your the first-created-user on your system
[19:11] <DeaDSouL> is this normal? all users have the same uid=0 ?? https://s4.postimg.org/5cszrbet9/Screen_Shot_2016_08_17_at_10_09_04_PM.png
[19:13] <renn0xtk9> DeadSoul, how I can change this? i once had a similar problem, I used to chmod -R 775 $folder   and that did it but here it does not change
[19:14] <elkorn> hey everyone. I did an upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 through `apt dist-upgrade` (before 16.04.1 actually) and since them I'm experiencing issues when trying to connect to a new wireless network or to any VPN: Not authorized to control networking. Has anyone run into this?
[19:15] <elkorn> my user is added to the netdev and systemd-network groups
[19:16] <elkorn> also since that upgrade I have started to getting the "Error executing command as another user: Not authorized" message when trying to sudo. Probably related
[19:16] <DeaDSouL> renn0xtk9: a) create a folder and make your user the owner of a group.. b) use bindfs: https://plus.google.com/wm/2/se/1/+MubarakAlrashidi/posts/7baj6LTyQ97 c) mount it by gnome, kde, etc..
[19:17] <bekks> elkorn: apt dist-upgrade does not upgrade 14.04 to 16.04
[19:17] <DeaDSouL> renn0xtk9: btw, those were options not steps
[19:19] <elkorn> bekks: yeah sorry. I have done more than that - did the steps that were required to update me from 14.04 to 16.04 from the CLI actually. Now if I just could remind myself what they were...
[19:19] <bekks> elkorn: do-release-upgrade
[19:19] <elkorn> it was there, yes
[19:20] <renn0xtk9> okay got it I needed a chown not chmod
[19:20] <elkorn> so bekks, any clue as to why and where the permissions are not set up correctly?
[19:20] <renn0xtk9> DeadSoul btw do you know how to change the ugly name of the device ?
[19:20] <mcphail> elkorn: if you've updated from 14.04 to 16.04 before 16.04.1, your upgrade path has been forced and unsupported. It isn't really possible to offer support in your situation
[19:21] <hi-liter99> Pici: fix for rails --> rails server -b 0.0.0.0 -p 3050
[19:21] <elkorn> mcphail can I do something to get me from 16.04 to 16.04.1 now? do-release-upgrade does not pick up anything new
[19:21] <hi-liter99> thanks!
[19:21] <bekks> elkorn: because there is no newer release than 16.04
[19:21] <elkorn> ouch
[19:21] <mcphail> elkorn: any damage will already be done
[19:22] <mcphail> elkorn: my advice is to try a live USB of 16.04.1. If that fixes your problems, do a reinstall
[19:23] <DeaDSouL> renn0xtk9: try disks, or gparted, they can change its label
[19:24] <elkorn> thx mcphail, will do that. thx bekks for the info
[19:26] <renn0xtk9> Hmm I have Kpartition editor (I am kubunut) and that does not want o work :S
[19:29] <wish^> join #kdeneon
[19:29] <wish^> oops
[19:30] <wish^> What is the difference between installing kubuntu and installing kde neon on ubuntu?
[19:32] <k1l> kde neon is a 3rd party OS, based on ubuntu. but not supported by ubuntu or the kubuntu team.
[19:32] <k1l> and, iirc, kde neon is not meant to be stable. its more like a bleeding edge kde os.
[19:35] <christian_> anyone have any suggestions for going about setting up the hard drive on an ubuntu machine for network attached storage?7\
[19:36] <MonkeyDust> christian_  yes, i have NAS, be it an ancient dinosaur
[19:36] <MonkeyDust> a NAS*
[19:36] <bekks> christian_: No difference compared to a "regular" setup.
[19:37] <christian_> i tried nfs mounting but i'm running 16.04 and i keep getting error messages.  i don't think it's a serious enough problem to go through making a forum post about it so i figured i would come here
[19:38] <bekks> christian_: which exact command do you use, and which exact error message do you get?
[19:38] <christian_> sudo mount 192.168.1.134:/var/nfs/general /home/christian/nfs/general/
[19:38] <christian_> this is my command, the IP address is correct
[19:39] <christian_> mount.nfs: rpc.statd is not running but is required for remote locking.
[19:39] <christian_> mount.nfs: Either use '-o nolock' to keep locks local, or start statd.
[19:39] <christian_> mount.nfs: an incorrect mount option was specified
[19:39] <bekks> christian_: So did you do what the error message tells you to do?
[19:41] <mustmodify> Redis wants me to set `vm.overcommit_memory = 1`  in /etc/sysctl.conf -- I assume there's some reason it isn't like that initially. What's the down side?
[19:41] <christian_> well i've gotten as far as trying to restart statd but it says "Failed to restart statd.service: Unit statd.service not found."
[19:43] <ioria> christian_, have you installed nfs-common ?
[19:43] <christian_> on the server or the client?
[19:44] <ioria> christian_,  on the client
[19:44] <christian_> yes
[19:44] <ioria> christian_,  and on the server what have youo installed ?
[19:46] <christian_> is there a log i can check to see what i have installed?
[19:46] <christian_> i've been working on this over a few days so i don't exactly remember
[19:46] <christian_> and i'm also new to linux
[19:46] <ioria> christian_,  you should have installed nfs-kernel-server
[19:46] <christian_> oh yeah, I have installed that
[19:47] <ioria> christian_,   then check your /etc/exports
[19:47] <ioria> christian_,  on the server, i mean
[19:48] <christian_> i have added the following lines to /etc/exports
[19:48] <wish^> Ok k1l . So what your saying is, it is not advised to use it for my work machine that i rely on?
[19:48] <christian_> i believe i'm getting caught in the spam filter
[19:49] <ikonia> what spam filter ?
[19:49] <k1l> wish^: that is your decision. the kubuntu team makes sure its a stable base and keeps that base for the release time.
[19:49] <christian_> the one for this IRC, it won't show my message for what lines i've added
[19:50] <ikonia> thre isn't a spam filter
[19:50] <Pici> christian_: Please use a pastebin (see topic) if you want to show us a file, don't paste here.
[19:50] <christian_> i've added lines /var/nfs/general [IP address of the machine](rw,sync,no_subtree_check)
[19:50] <ikonia> let me guess, you started teh line with "/"
[19:50] <Pici> ikonia: good catch
[19:51] <christian_> oh you're right
[19:51] <christian_> okay let me go through this again
[19:51] <christian_> x /var/nfs/general       192.168.1.134(rw,sync,no_subtree_check)
[19:51] <ikonia> christian_: whats the actual error
[19:51] <ikonia> lets look at that first
[19:51] <christian_> mount.nfs: rpc.statd is not running but is required for remote locking.
[19:51] <christian_> mount.nfs: Either use '-o nolock' to keep locks local, or start statd.
[19:51] <christian_> mount.nfs: an incorrect mount option was specified
[19:52] <ikonia> ok - so there is your first problem, work through those 3 situation
[19:52] <ikonia> make sure they are not valid situations
[19:52] <christian_> i've tried starting statd but it says it's not installed on my client
[19:52] <ikonia> that would be a server component
[19:52] <ikonia> not a client
[19:52] <christian_> it's not there either
[19:53] <christian_> Failed to restart statd.service: Unit statd.service not found.
[19:53] <ikonia> ok so there is your first problem to address
[19:53] <ikonia> that needs to be on the client and server
[19:54] <christian_> how do i install it? is it supposed to come with nfs-common or nfs-kernel-server?
[19:54] <ikonia> it's a seperate package
[19:54] <ikonia> christian_: how are you setting this up - eg: what information are you using
[19:54] <ikonia> I assume you're using some sort of guide
[19:55] <christian_> https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-an-nfs-mount-on-ubuntu-16-04
[19:55] <ikonia> ughh, another digial ocean guide
[19:56] <dr4c4n> hi, can anyone help me with some hdmi overscanning issues?
[19:56] <ioria> christian_,  dpkg -l rpcbind
[19:56] <ikonia> what version of ubuntu is this ?
[19:57] <christian_> excuse the formatting
[19:57] <christian_> Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
[19:57] <christian_> | Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
[19:57] <christian_> |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
[19:57] <christian_> ||/ Name           Version      Architecture Description
[19:57] <christian_> +++-[19:57] <ikonia> christian_: please use a pastebin to share info
[19:57] <dr4c4n> what I mean to say is, I'm running ubuntu 16.04 from a zotac zbox into an hdmi tv, the problem is there is overcsan on the screen, and I can only partially see the menu on the top and the side. I have tried using transform, and gotten the menu back, but the right hand side, and the bottom are still cut off
[19:58] <DeaDSouL> please guys help me checking those logs to know what causing the system to logs me back out immediately once i logged in ? https://www.dropbox.com/sh/v2xk2lk6cne81s2/AAAlafJA-Yeb_CUQ8zuDAZyBa?dl=0
[19:58] <ioria> christian_,  Pici told you to use pastebinit
[19:58] <ikonia> why pay attention when blind ignrance will get you a reward of support
[19:58] <christian_> my second message was pastebin http://pastebin.com/QwxNN0N9
[19:59] <ioria> christian_,  sudo service rpcbind status
[20:00] <christian_> it says it is active
[20:01] <ioria> christian_,  sudo mount -t nfs serverIP:/path   /client/path/mountpoint
[20:02] <christian_> same error message
[20:03] <ioria> christian_,  my experience with fsf ends here, sorry
[20:03] <ioria> *nfs
[20:04] <ioria> christian_,  check the ufw, or you mage some error configuration
[20:04] <ioria> *made
[20:08] <christian_> is it necessary that i have ufw enabled or can i just leave it disabled to expedite the setup process?
[20:10] <ioria> christian_,  if not configured, leave it disabled ... can you try sudo service nfslock  status
[20:10] <christian_> says it's inactive on both the client and the server
[20:11] <ioria> christian_,   mmm,   sudo service nfslock  start
[20:11] <christian_> oh actually it's says service not found
[20:12] <ioria> christian_,   mmm,   sudo service statd  status
[20:12] <christian_> also not found
[20:13] <ioria> christian_,  sudo service rpcbind restart   and try again to mount
[20:14] <christian_> same error message as before
[20:15] <ioria> christian_,  ok, i'm out :]
[20:15] <christian_> thank you for your patience.  I've only been using linux for about 2 weeks now
[20:15] <redtuxedocash> how can i turn on my bluetooth?
[20:15] <redtuxedocash> i dont have any notification once i clicked bluetooth settings
[20:16] <redtuxedocash> on my preferences menu
[20:16] <ioria> christian_,  no problem, you're brave soul :)
[20:16] <MonkeyDust> redtuxedocash  install blueman
[20:16] <MonkeyDust> christian_  i remember you being much longer here, like months
[20:16] <redtuxedocash> MonkeyDust, it says i have it already
[20:17] <redtuxedocash> how can i open it?
[20:17] <christian_> maybe a different christian.  i need a more unique username
[20:18] <redtuxedocash> it says that i need to autoremove some related blueman pkg
[20:18] <redtuxedocash> why?
[20:18] <akik> christian_: try using options "-t nfs4" and "mountvers=4" to use nfsv4. it only uses port 2049
[20:18] <akik> christian_: the latter is "-o mountvers=4"
[20:19] <akik> r
[20:20] <MonkeyDust> redtuxedocash  alt f2, blueman
[20:21] <xangua> redtuxedocash: I think you should start from the beginning stating what Ubuntu release and desktop you use, Bluetooth adapter model, is it a dongle?
[20:21] <christian_> Operation not permitted
[20:21] <redtuxedocash> lubuntu 16.04 i am using
[20:21] <Archeus_> hey ppl
[20:21] <Archeus_> wht does this command do?
[20:21] <redtuxedocash> it is built-in bluetooth
[20:21] <Archeus_> rm ~/.config ~/.gconf
[20:22] <redtuxedocash> dont have any dongle
[20:22] <redtuxedocash> i call it from run command, blueman-manager, dont show anything up
[20:23] <Archeus_> ??
[20:24] <MonkeyDust> Archeus_  rm means remove (delete)
[20:24] <Archeus_> oh
[20:24] <Archeus_> then wht about the next part ?
[20:24] <ubuntufanboy> does ubuntu have any apps that can track app use? So I can have an idea of my time management lolz. Kinda like steam has hours played in two weeks
[20:24] <Archeus_> ~/.config ~/.gconf
[20:24] <Archeus_> ?
[20:24] <MonkeyDust> Archeus_  it's the file you'll dlete
[20:24] <MonkeyDust> the files*
[20:24] <Archeus_> oh
[20:25] <Archeus_> so wht files will be deleted when i run this ?
[20:25] <MonkeyDust> Archeus_  the files you just pasted
[20:25] <MonkeyDust> Archeus_  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[20:26] <Archeus_> hmmm
[20:26] <Archeus_> thx
[20:26] <MonkeyDust> Archeus_  the . means they are hidden files
[20:26] <Archeus_> oh
[20:26] <pi___> ls
[20:27] <MonkeyDust> Archeus_  and ~ means    /home/your_username
[20:28] <Archeus_> so wht does / means then ?
[20:28] <MonkeyDust> Archeus_  / means root
[20:28] <Archeus_> and config means configurations ?
[20:30] <christian_> honestly Archerus_ it doesn't look like a very good command to run
[20:33] <MonkeyDust> Archeus_  find plenty bash tutorials with your favorite search engine, here's one ... http://ryanstutorials.net/linuxtutorial/
[20:33] <Archeus_> thx
[20:34] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview
[20:34] <vinberdon> hello
[20:47] <Bray90820> Is this how I would run backup at 3AM everyday but sunday?
[20:47] <Bray90820> 0 3 * * * mon-sat /root/Backup.sh
[20:47] <Bray90820> In a corontab
[20:48] <OerHeks> Bray90820, man 5 crontab
[20:49]  * OerHeks hates crossposting while been answered in ##linux 
[20:57] <Grorco> if I use compiz as a window manager in ubuntu mate, why isn't compiz able to control the workspaces?
[20:58] <ph88> is it ok to use  tee  to write core dump to file and pipe into crash manager ?
[20:59] <ph88> how do i get access to  /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern  ?  sudo is not working (using zsh)
[21:00] <YankDownUnder> Grorco: Are you sure that compiz is actually being used as a replacement window mangler for marco?
[21:03] <trism> ph88: if you are trying to use > it won't, you could do something like: echo funcorefilename | sudo tee /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern;
[21:03] <Grorco> YankDownUnder, I forgot I was having problems with it not working every time, I don't remember how to check now
[21:04] <ph88> i want to get core dumps so i can put them in gdb
[21:04] <ph88> should i use apport utilities instead ?
[21:04] <ph88> trism, i had this:  sudo echo "tee /var/cores/core.%e.%p | /usr/share/apport/apport %p %s %c %P" > /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern
[21:04] <ph88> but i'm afraid i will break ubuntu this way
[21:04] <trism> ph88: that won't work because your zsh is not root
[21:05] <ph88> maybe i should use  sysctl ?
[21:05] <trism> ph88: and the shell is doing the redirect
[21:05] <drrochet> hello all
[21:05] <trism> ph88: sudo is only execing echo
[21:05] <drrochet> user and samba question
[21:05] <ph88> trism, how can i sudo the entire line ?
[21:05] <drrochet> having a major problem in sharing a drive on my DIY server with the rest of my network
[21:06] <YankDownUnder> Grorco: Read through this - good info and tips: https://www.maketecheasier.com/replace-mate-window-manager-with-openbox/
[21:06] <trism> ph88: do it the other way around with tee as I wrote above or use sudo -i to get a shell instead
[21:06] <drrochet> I have samba setup and I can "see" the shared folder on both PC and Mac devices but I cannot login
[21:07] <drrochet> everytime i try to change permissions, I am told that i dont have the authority....
[21:07] <YankDownUnder> drrochet: "cannot login" is rather ambiguous...can you be more specific?
[21:07] <drrochet> brb
[21:07] <elias_a> burb
[21:07] <ph88> trism, i think my idea wouldn't work because of the man page on core dump: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man5/core.5.html  it's not a full shell instruction but something with simple syntax picked up by the kernel
[21:09] <ph88> -- Apport writes core dumps to /var/crash/_path_to_program.userid.crash, BUT it will only do so for applications installed from the main ubuntu apt repositories. --
[21:09] <Grorco> YankDownUnder, dconf shows that compiz is the window manager
[21:09] <ph88> ok that's fine for now
[21:11] <ph88> hhmm no it's not fine
[21:11] <ph88> the .crash file is not the actual core dump !!
[21:11] <ph88> apport-unpack: Unpack a report into single files (one per attribute). This is most useful for extracting the core dump.
[21:11] <ph88> breadcrumbs everywhere
[21:12] <murphy_> im trying to edit the OEM automated install but there is a project.cfg and preseed.cfg. which one is used?
[21:12] <YankDownUnder> Grorco: So technically, you would change the "workspaces" to "1" in Mate, and then use CCSM to configure however many "desktop workspaces" you require (in compiz) - and that would, or rather, SHOULD change the environment to suit...hmm?
[21:13] <Grorco> YankDownUnder, yeah it didn't work :(
[21:14] <DonkeyHotei> seems like nobody monitors #ubuntu-bugs so who can nominate for sru?
[21:15] <Grorco> YankDownUnder, I'll try changing it then logging in/out that fixes everything :)
[21:15] <YankDownUnder> Grorco: Right oh (yeah, thought you'd say that) - well, then this would be a good question to ask in #ubuntu-mate - and something worth digging through...I'll assume you've logged out and logged back in to make sure that "compiz" is supposed to be the window mangler, right?
[21:18] <Grorco> what is ntpd?
[21:18] <DonkeyHotei> network time protocol daemon
[21:19] <YankDownUnder> Grorco: "Network Time Protocol" daemon (ach...beat me to it)
[21:19] <Grorco> that crashes every time I log in, but that kinda makes sense
[21:20] <YankDownUnder> Grorco: Er...do you do a bit of time travelling or do you live near a black hole?
[21:21] <Grorco> YankDownUnder, I'm the Doctor
[21:21] <Grorco> :)
[21:21] <DonkeyHotei> seems like nobody monitors #ubuntu-bugs, so who can nominate for sru?
[21:21] <YankDownUnder> Grorco: Well, then that answers that question don't ya know.
[21:22] <OerHeks> DonkeyHotei, bug usually go through a launchpad message, not irc channel
[21:22] <DonkeyHotei> OerHeks: how?
[21:22] <OerHeks> DonkeyHotei, by filing a bugreport?
[21:22] <OerHeks> !bug
[21:22] <DonkeyHotei> OerHeks: bug report was filed years ago
[21:23] <tgm4883> DonkeyHotei: link?
[21:23] <DonkeyHotei> tgm4883: bug 1247528
[21:24] <DonkeyHotei> it was fixed in utopic but not in trusty lts
[21:24] <Grorco> YankDownUnder, compiz wasn't running, I just started it through the terminal :( but still doesn't seem to have control of workspaces
[21:25] <OerHeks> !info xserver-xorg-video-intel trusty
[21:25] <tgm4883> DonkeyHotei: and it probably won't ever be in trusty official PPA's
[21:25] <YankDownUnder> Grorco: Fire up the ccsm and see if after you've made changes in the desktop settings it allows you to have control over the workspaces in Mate...hmm?
[21:25] <DonkeyHotei> tgm4883: it meets the requirements for sru
[21:26] <tgm4883> DonkeyHotei: uh, are you sure?
[21:26] <OerHeks> DonkeyHotei, so it is not fixed in  2:2.99.910 ??
[21:26] <DonkeyHotei> tgm4883: i verified and reverified
[21:26] <tgm4883> DonkeyHotei: perhaps it falls under "other safe cases"
[21:27] <DonkeyHotei> OerHeks: upstream version is irrelevant, this is a packaging mistake
[21:29] <philectro> hmm hello
[21:29] <philectro> it's possible to read netflix on ubuntu 16.04 ?
[21:29] <philectro>  i have change the user agent on firefox and it doesn't work at all
[21:30] <xangua> philectro: you can see Netflix with Google chrome, and apparently with Firefox soon™
[21:30] <rexwin_> is there a way to direct a dynamic txt file output to an ods file?
[21:31] <xangua> You can't see DRM protected video in Firefox for Linux right now philectro
[21:31] <philectro> but there is site, like ubuntu-fr who say that netflix works on firefox < and 48 :/
[21:31] <philectro> xangua, yes it's exactly what i though
[21:31] <philectro> hope next month is released 49
[21:34] <Grorco> YankDownUnder, well now I can't change either size ugh
[21:34] <YankDownUnder> Grorco: "...can't change either size" - not sure I understand, mate...have to be slightly more specific...
[21:34] <ercx2x> hey anyone have any good sites to find part time work doing web dev? I want to supplement my fullstack 9-5 job .
[21:34] <ercx2x> whopse wrong channel
[21:35] <DonkeyHotei> tgm4883, OerHeks: can either of you nominate the bug for sru?
[21:35] <Grorco> YankDownUnder, sorry now I can't get more than one desktop using compiz or the workspace switcher on the lower panel
[21:36] <YankDownUnder> Grorco: Have you looked in the lower section(s) of ccsm and looked at all the "window manager" specific configurations and work-arounds? I remember going through this - I had initially some issues, but it was my "forgetfullness" to double-check things...
[21:39] <OerHeks> DonkeyHotei, no, i can only confirm the bug, besides i am not sure how is a problem, as there has been fixes out there.
[21:40] <tgm4883> DonkeyHotei: I can't, but that bug description doesn't look like it is in proper SRU format anyway
[21:41] <OerHeks> there are many version  2.99.904 now, 2:2.99.904-0ubuntu2 and 2:2.99.904-0ubuntu2.1  ...
[21:44] <claudio> heloo
[21:47] <mustmodify> It's funny how I'm really advanced in some areas of linux and other times I feel pretty stupid. Question: I downloaded and compiled Redis. Now the binaries are in /usr/local/bin. Should I copy the files from ~/downloads/redis-stable to somewhere like /etc/redis ? I know I at least need somewhere to store redis.conf.
[21:48] <maszlo> I went to upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 and the upgrade failed. Because I was remote of the server rebooted and now having trouble getting things back up for fixing it. It doesn't recognize eth0 now. Can I resolve this from livecd?
[21:49] <wildskies21> Hi guys I'm having trouble dual booting Ubuntu on my windows 8 laptop
[21:49] <wildskies21> I tried using boot repair but I got nothing
[21:51] <maszlo> I have found this, but when I bring up tty1 it's prompting to login and not finding how to login to livecd. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCdRecovery
[21:53] <wildskies21> Also here's the pastebin link from the boot repair http://paste2.org/d5KmB2Pa
[21:53] <Bashing-om> maszlo: Naming convention in 16.04 is changed: https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/ .
[21:56] <wildskies21> Literally at this point I'm just about done with Windows but idk if I'm ready to scrap it right away
[21:56] <maszlo> Bashing-om: ifconfig doesn't show anything besides lo, don't see how to bring things up
[21:57] <Bashing-om> maszlo: Server, right ? Check /etc/network/interfaces .
[21:59] <maszlo> Only thing in that file is loopback
[21:59] <Bashing-om> maszlo: That ^ "assumes" that there is no GUI - network-manager -  installed .
[21:59] <maszlo> I only have cli, yes
[21:59] <DonkeyHotei> tgm4883: is it better now?
[22:00] <superfly_> hello
[22:01] <Bashing-om> maszlo: K; as this is CLI .. need that file made up . 1st need to identify the interface name . what returns ' ip route show ' ?
[22:02] <superfly_> quit
[22:02] <tgm4883> DonkeyHotei: yea that looks better.
[22:02] <superfly_> -
[22:04] <maszlo> I get no results with that command. Excuse and delay or such, am connected to irc from mobile
[22:05] <DonkeyHotei> tgm4883: what's the next step?
[22:05] <tgm4883> DonkeyHotei: did you send an email to the bug team?
[22:06] <DonkeyHotei> tgm4883: what's the address?
[22:06] <Bashing-om> maszlo: Understood on the diffuculties . OK, let's try ' sudo lshw -C network ' the name should be in the logical name field .
[22:06] <maszlo> Found ethtool app, weird that is shows 'link detected : no'
[22:07] <tgm4883> DonkeyHotei: ubuntu-bugcontrol@lists.launchpad.net
[22:07] <ikonia> that means there is no link
[22:07] <DonkeyHotei> tgm4883: what is the format of the message to send?
[22:08] <maszlo> The lshw shows network disabled
[22:08] <tgm4883> DonkeyHotei: I have no idea, I'm taking this all from the SRU page
[22:08] <maszlo> It does show the logical name as eth0
[22:08] <Bashing-om> maszlo: Curious, yeah .. ok let's drop down to the hardware level ' ls /sys/class/net ' .
[22:09] <maszlo> Results of that is lo and eth0
[22:10] <rexwin__> when I try to login as root I get su: Authentication failure, I have not created or setup root password
[22:10] <tgm4883> rexwin__: don't login as root
[22:10] <genii> !root | rexwin__
[22:10] <maszlo> Ifup gives me, ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0 which is strange
[22:11] <maszlo> Ifup eth0 that is
[22:11] <rexwin__> it is a VM, i dont want to sudo everything
[22:11] <ikonia> not strange if there is no et0 interface
[22:11] <Bashing-om> maszlo: eth0 is not at all expected .. in systemd (16.05) there "should' be the new naming convention . Not to say we can not try and activate eth0 . we can try !
[22:11] <ikonia> rexwin__: then learn the basics of how you mange the OS you've installed
[22:12] <maszlo> But /sys/class/net says there is eth0, guess was drawing my own conclusions
[22:12] <DonkeyHotei> tgm4883: thank you!
[22:14] <maszlo> And lshw shows the logical name as eth0
[22:15] <maszlo> I'm stuck in off the network purgatory
[22:15] <rexwin__> I have another ubuntu 15 version which allows root login(su -)
[22:15] <ikonia> rexwin__: no it doesn't
[22:15] <ikonia> you have to configure it
[22:15] <rexwin__> this is ubuntu 16
[22:15] <ikonia> the same as every other ubuntu release
[22:15] <rexwin__> okay, I will google it.
[22:15] <ikonia> not really learning, but whatever you think is best
[22:15] <Bashing-om> maszlo: My working file . http://paste.ubuntu.com/23065811/ ya want something similar .. where I am eth1 .. make yours eth0 .
[22:15] <Bashing-om> maszlo: ^^ sorry that be /etc/network/interfaces
[22:16] <bekks> maszlo: take a look at "sudo ifconfig -a" to see which interfaces are there.
[22:16] <Bashing-om> maszlo: Again, assumming that network-manager is not a part of this equation .
[22:19] <maszlo> I see eth0 in ifconfig -a
[22:20] <maszlo> Have updated the /etc/network/inteterface and restarted the networking service, still not coming up
[22:21] <maszlo> But with ifup got it up now!
[22:22] <maszlo> Will post pack in a bit, going to try some apt-get stuff
[22:23] <Neui> Does anyone know where are the *.mount files are?
[22:23] <RNeville> how do you determine your gateway ip address using ifconfig , pls
[22:25] <Grorco> YankDownUnder, Well I got it to work for openbox
[22:26] <maszlo> Apt-get update gave me a bunch of warnings, sources are really restricted so did a -f upgrade and will see where this lands
[22:27] <ikonia> that sounds like a bad idea
[22:27] <ikonia> understanding the warnings is important
[22:27] <ikonia> rather than blindly using -f
[22:27] <Grorco> maszlo, I hope none of them cause prostate cancer!
[22:28] <YankDownUnder> Grorco: For *me* - in the end - after trying to get things "exactly" as I want them to be, I switched to XFce as the desktop with compiz as the window mangler...less hassle...but that's just me, mate...
[22:28] <maszlo> If coming out of a failed upgrade wouldn't that be necessary to correct the depenacies?
[22:28] <ikonia> maszlo: depends on the errors
[22:28] <ikonia> maszlo: thats why I said understanding the errors is important before blindly trying to force updates
[22:28] <maszlo> Multi arch warnings
[22:29] <ikonia> thats important
[22:29] <mustmodify> It's funny how I'm really advanced in some areas of linux and other times I feel pretty stupid. Question: I downloaded and compiled Redis. Now the binaries are in /usr/local/bin. Should I copy the files from ~/downloads/redis-stable to somewhere like /etc/redis ? I know I at least need somewhere to store redis.conf.
[22:29] <ikonia> mustmodify: it's your box
[22:29] <ikonia> put things where you want
[22:30] <Neui> Does anyone know where are the *.mount files are?
[22:30] <ikonia> mustmodify: you built the package from source, so you know what it's expecting where
[22:30] <ikonia> Neui: what are you trying to do
[22:30] <ikonia> I have no idea what a .mount file is
[22:30] <Neui> ikonia: It seems that i get to the emergency mode because mount-cdrom.mount fails (due no CD in the drive)
[22:30] <ikonia> Neui: that seems unlikley
[22:31] <ikonia> and again a "mount" file ??
[22:31] <mustmodify> Ikoru: I feel like that isn't really addressing my question. Is it conventional to move those things to /etc to have them around? What's the best practice?
[22:31] <mustmodify> How would I go about making that decision? Help me fish here. Don't tell me I have no fish.
[22:31] <Grorco> can you start an app on a different workspace from terminal?
[22:32] <ikonia> mustmodify: it's answering your question very clearly
[22:32] <ikonia> mustmodify: as it depends how you built it
[22:32] <ikonia> mustmodify: so it's your box, your build, your config
[22:32] <Neui> ikoia: But as soon the error occurs, i see that things are shutting down and the emergency mode goes up, where that is the only error/failure in the log
[22:32] <ikonia> in what log
[22:33] <maszlo> Mustmodify: I always thow that stuff in /opt
[22:33] <nacc> Neui: mount-cdrom.mount isn't a file, I believe that's a service name
[22:33] <ikonia> you can't just throw it in /opt
[22:33] <ikonia> thats just asking for a problem
[22:33] <Neui> ikonia: It tells you to use journalctl -xb, where it displays you the log
[22:33] <ikonia> Neui: so what service does it say is in an error state ?
[22:33] <mustmodify> ikonia: why?
[22:33] <ikonia> mustmodify: why what
[22:34] <maszlo> That is where have ran eagle and Androidsdk from for years.. Okay I will shut up
[22:34] <ikonia> maszlo: that is a totally different situation than mustmodify modify has just said he's done
[22:34] <Neui> ikonia: Wait i'll connect to irc using phone and recheck log
[22:34] <mustmodify> why is throwing it in /opt "asking for a problem"?
[22:35] <nacc> mustmodify: if you're just asking if your build of redis is looking for the configuration file in /etc/redis, the answer is probably yes; but it's possible you compiled it differently (so it's not guaranteed). If you're asking if the files in your system's ~/downloads/redis-stable directory should be placed in /etc/redis, it's nearly impossible for us to answer that.
[22:35] <ikonia> mustmodify: did you tell the application to use /opt to parse config files and data
[22:35] <Bashing-om> maszlo: Might be a good odra to look at ' /etc/apt/sources.list ' .. also what returns for ' lsb_release -a ' ?
[22:36] <maszlo> Bashing-om: I did check that both are 16.04.1
[22:36] <Newboy> whats up
[22:36] <Bashing-om> maszlo: :))
[22:36] <mustmodify> nacc: I'm not asking how to make redis work. I have upstart configured to look for a file in /etc/redis/redis.conf, so I know I need that there. The question is whether it's conventional to copy over all the non-binary files after compiling. And if so, why is that the convention?
[22:36] <ikonia> mustmodify: it's totally up to you and depends on how you built the application
[22:38] <nacc> mustmodify: there is no 'convention' as to what you're asking
[22:38] <nacc> mustmodify: at least, that i understand from your question
[22:38] <mustmodify> ok
[22:39] <nacc> mustmodify: there is probably an example configuration file
[22:39] <Neui> ikonia: media-cdrom.mount: Process exited, code=exited status=32; Failed to mount /media/cdrom; Dependency failed for Local File Systems; ...; media-cdrom.mount: Unit entered failed state
[22:40] <bluenemo> hi guys. I installed 16.04 + nvidia drivers for my gtx 950. the onboard sound card now longer shows in the unity sound control and pavucontrol, only nvidia hdmi (which I dont want to use).
[22:40] <bluenemo> how do I get my sound back? :)
[22:41] <ikonia> Neui: have you put that in your fstab by any chance ?
[22:41] <bluenemo> it was working before I installed the driver via software-settings-something (gui)
[22:42] <Neui> ikonia: Yes so i could mount it as user
[22:42] <ikonia> Neui: ok - so you've not configured that correctly
[22:42] <Bashing-om> bluenemo: This driver : http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/105343/en-us ?
[22:42] <ikonia> Neui: remove the line from fstab
[22:42] <ikonia> or put a cdrom in
[22:43] <maszlo> Thanks guys for the help. This was the first major issue with upgrade have ran into in the past 11 years of ubuntu. Glad I ran away from fedora core when I did
[22:43] <ikonia> errr thats just a silly statement
[22:44] <Bashing-om> maszlo: Glad to help .. all smooth now ?
[22:44] <bluenemo> Bashing-om, it shows it in "additional drivers" gui as version 361.42 from nvidia-361
[22:45] <maszlo> Yep back in action. Hopefully don't have issues with php7, noticed that this version made the jump
[22:45] <maszlo> Will test that stuff later
[22:46] <Bashing-om> maszlo: Great .. as to server apps .. might pay to heed the release notes cavaets .
[22:46] <Bashing-om> !info nvidia-364
[22:47] <Bashing-om> !info nvidia-361
[22:48] <Neui> ikonia: I looked up the man page and added noauto and it booted correctly
[22:48] <Bashing-om> bluenemo: Maybe not the best idea here . but Nvidia do recommend the 367 version driver . It is availabale in our trusted PPA .
[22:51] <bluenemo> Bashing-om, how do I add that again?
[22:52] <bluenemo> btw this didnt work: http://askubuntu.com/questions/731958/onboard-audio-not-working-after-graphics-drivers-set
[22:56] <Bashing-om> BKuhl: I prefer ' sudo apt purge nvidia* ; sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf ; sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa ; sudo apt update ; sudo apt-get install nvidia-367 ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo reboot ' .
[22:56] <Mojtaba> Hello, I am using system proxy by ssh, and the problem is that thunderbird gives me connection refused for gmail. Do you know what should I do?
[22:57] <bluenemo> Bashing-om, got it to work :) overlooked a bios setting. wasnt needed before the new card though.. thank yiu :)
[22:57] <wildskies21> Got it to work!
[22:58] <Bashing-om> bluenemo: Great ! .. pleased that what is in the repo works - that is the better course .
[22:59] <transhuman> hi i am trying to reinstall a laptop with efi secure boot enabled I have the 2 boot passwords to run the current install but when I try to boot from a usb 16.04 it wont allow me to actually click on continue to allow it to erase is this an efi bios problem?
[23:00] <transhuman> to clarify I want to erase the current install and upgrade to ubuntu 16.04 since I dont have the root password of the current install and nothing needs to be preserved anyways
[23:01] <transhuman> cant chroot to the drive to recover root password either cause it mounts the drive as a folder it calls EFI and wont let me do an ls -al on the folder
[23:13] <Kraghot> Hi guys
[23:13] <Kraghot> I have an x86 tablet and I mamaged to boot ubuntu on it, however, the usb otg doesnt work so I have no keyboard
[23:14] <Kraghot> how would I go about fixing that??
[23:14] <OerHeks> external keyboard perhaps?
[23:15] <Kraghot> I have connected it but the usb port (otg) dies as soon as ubuntu boots, but works in bootloader :/
[23:16] <OerHeks> Kraghot, what tablet is this?? sure there are more users with the same issue
[23:16] <Kraghot> OerHeks its a Teclast X98 pro
[23:17] <Kraghot> Its a really cool tablet but this is driving me nuts. A couple of months ago I booted Arch and the port worked, but now it doesnt both on Arch and Ubuntu
[23:20] <OerHeks> some linux posts suggest to use a powered usb-hub ...
[23:23] <Kraghot> OerHeks I am using a powered USB hub :/
[23:24] <Kraghot> Really dont know what else to do.
[23:26] <OerHeks> well, it is an 332 bit uefi device, that you have booted ubuntu on it, i think it wasn't in efi mode, but legacy bios... else i have no clue there
[23:26] <Kraghot> Read somewhere that otg is sometimes default for debugging, how could I disable it
[23:26] <OerHeks> c/32 bit
[23:26] <Kraghot> actually its a bay trail processor which is the first atom generation to support 64bit uefi, so its booting 64 bit
[23:27] <ivan> I am seeing applications take many seconds to load fonts after installing xenial updates from the last day (including apparmor-profiles), is this a known issue?
[23:27] <Kraghot> Some people have tried it on cherry ttail and that caused them some problems
[23:27] <ivan> strace -ff suggests something is really broken with font loading
[23:28] <OerHeks> ivan, i got a fontconfig update today http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-3063-1/
[23:28] <ivan> ah, yes, that would probably be it
[23:29] <ivan> this is a lot worse if you have a lot of fonts installed. but it's still pretty bad after I moved out the big ones
[23:29] <ivan> it seems like there is no cache now
[23:30] <ivan> maybe because I use ~/.local/share/fonts
[23:35] <Kraghot> Correction I have cherry trail which supports 64 bit uefi. Bay trail has the 32 bit uefi and is a 64 bit device xD
[23:39] <ivan> oops, I went to downgrade to working fontconfig packages with  apt-get install fontconfig-config:amd64=2.11.94-0ubuntu1 fontconfig:amd64=2.11.94-0ubuntu1 libfontconfig1:amd64=2.11.94-0ubuntu1 libfontconfig1:i386=2.11.94-0ubuntu1     but apt-get decided to remove libcairo2-dev libfontconfig1-dev libgtk-3-dev libpango1.0-dev libvte-2.91-dev libxfce4ui-2-dev
[23:39] <ivan> libxft-dev xorg-dev
[23:42] <Kalandrakha> aaaaaa
[23:47] <k12> I've installed ubuntu in a virtual machine. Fsr I cannot run dpkg --configure -a to fix dpkg. I get this error:
[23:47] <k12> dpkg: error: parsing file '/var/lib/dpkg/updates/0012' near line 0:
[23:47] <k12>  newline in field name '#padding'
[23:47] <k12> How do I fix this?
[23:47] <Adam_M> Are you using a clean install of Ubuntu?
[23:48] <Adam_M> And which version are you using
[23:49] <k12> Ubuntu 16.04 xenial
[23:49] <k12> And this was a base install of ubuntu that I installed ubuntu studio desktop on.
[23:52] <k12> So... not sure how to fix this.
[23:55] <Adam_M> When did you install the VM copy of Ubuntu
[23:55] <k12> A week or so, ago.
[23:55] <Adam_M> did you have any problems other than trying to fix dpkg?
[23:56] <k12> No.
[23:56] <k12> dpkg is the only thing acting up, atm.
[23:56] <Adam_M> Are you able to go onto that copy of Ubuntu and try configuring dpkg?
[23:58] <k12> Not sure. I don't know where the config is.
[23:59] <Adam_M> Open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg --configure -a"