| trebmuh | hi guys | 16:11 |
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| trebmuh | you've got an issue with the ardour 5 package | 16:11 |
| trebmuh | this very same issue : https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=834488 | 16:11 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 834488 in ardour,ardour-data "ardour-data and ardour: error when trying to install together" [Serious,Open] | 16:11 |
| trebmuh | hope that helps | 16:11 |
| zequence | trebmuh: Thanks. Hopefully it is fixed in Debian soon, and soon as it is, we need to sync with them | 16:21 |
| zequence | trebmuh: Did you report that bug? | 16:21 |
| zequence | If so, and you also use Ubuntu, could you please report it for Ubuntu as well? | 16:22 |
| zequence | Ah, damn. ardour5 is the package causing the build failure | 16:24 |
| trebmuh | no I'm not using ubuntu | 16:25 |
| trebmuh | zequence, that's just a matter of 2 lines changes in the debian/ardour.install file | 16:25 |
| trebmuh | ie : you just have to replace: | 16:26 |
| trebmuh | debian/tmp/usr/* | 16:26 |
| trebmuh | by: | 16:26 |
| trebmuh | debian/tmp/usr/bin/ardour* | 16:26 |
| trebmuh | debian/tmp/usr/lib/* | 16:26 |
| trebmuh | and you're good to go | 16:26 |
| zequence | trebmuh: Thanks. I will have a look and see about fixing that today | 16:27 |
| trebmuh | that's what I've been doing for LibraZiK | 16:27 |
| trebmuh | zequence, no worries, hope that helps | 16:27 |
| zequence | I can change the code, but I can't upload in Debian. | 16:27 |
| trebmuh | zequence, if I can suggest something as rgareus said on #ardour : "grabbing debian/sid and *directly* publishing it sound like a recipe for disaster." | 16:28 |
| trebmuh | that will be fixed in debian anytime soon, I'm sure | 16:28 |
| zequence | trebmuh: That suggestion is better put to Canonical, or the whole of Ubuntu community | 16:28 |
| zequence | And, rgareus is just sharing his opinion without actually knowing what it means. | 16:29 |
| zequence | He's a good coder, but he likes to be anti-Ubuntu, though he has never used it | 16:29 |
| trebmuh | indeed, but I'm not using ubuntu :) Just passing on you this bug report which just happened on #ardour in the hope it can be useful to you and the ubuntustudio users. I really hope that can help, specificaly just before your coming soon freeze/etc.. | 16:30 |
| zequence | If he wants to suggest something for Ubuntu development, he should take part in it | 16:30 |
| zequence | Bugs can be fixed anytime. The freeze is only for changes. | 16:30 |
| OvenWerks | zequence: so it looks like debian separates the ardour package into two. I am not sure why, but that seems to be the problem. | 17:38 |
| OvenWerks | zequence: The files in the packages look like a set of files that have moved for 5.0 to a different location. | 17:39 |
| OvenWerks | this would indicate that the script debian uses to create the packages has not been modified to the new position. | 17:44 |
| OvenWerks | zequence: Robin as you say has had so many problems from Ubuntu users (mostly vanilla I might add) that both he and Paul consider Ubuntu the worst dist for audio. | 17:46 |
| OvenWerks | zequence: however, his comments about US are annoying. He keeps (even after being corrected) paroting the line US is UB with extra packages. and no system set up. | 17:47 |
| OvenWerks | zequence: it shows a missunderstanding of packaging and ditro building in general. One could also say exactly the same thing kxstudio or avlinux which they recommend. | 17:49 |
| OvenWerks | zequence: obviously any system changes would be in the form of a package. | 17:54 |
| trebmuh | OvenWerks, re: ardour5 package : i think what happened is debian want to switch to a one-only package named "ardour" instead of one "ardour" package and one "ardour-data" package, but did forget to remove the ardour-data.install file | 17:55 |
| trebmuh | s/i think/i guess/ | 17:55 |
| OvenWerks | trebmuh: that would be a great move. | 17:55 |
| trebmuh | maybe, yes | 17:56 |
| * OvenWerks would like to see libjack-jackd2-dev included in jackd2 | 17:56 | |
| trebmuh | why so ? | 18:10 |
| OvenWerks | trebmuh: too many people who want to build something that requires libjack just look for libjack-dev which installs jackd1 and uninstalls any audio project that depends on jacdk2. | 18:19 |
| OvenWerks | libjack-dev should point to the default jackd dev files | 18:20 |
| OvenWerks | but it does not. | 18:20 |
| zequence | It's actually worse than that. If you do a 'apt-get build-dep' for any package that requires audio, you will get libjack-dev, if the jackd2 variant is not installed | 18:22 |
| zequence | ..for any package that requires jack dev files, I mean, of course | 18:22 |
| trebmuh | OvenWerks, mm, yes, make sense | 18:30 |
| * zequence is installing yakkety just in order to be able to make the bug report | 18:30 | |
| trebmuh | has it been reported to the debian BTS ? | 18:30 |
| zequence | The libjack-dev one? Not sure. I think the actual problem might be that libjack-dev depends on jackd1 and not jackd1|jackd2 | 18:37 |
| zequence | Or, why does it bring jackd1 in at all? | 18:38 |
| zequence | Ah, right. Can't install the thing even | 18:57 |
| zequence | sakrecoer: You reported a bug about that some time ago, did you not? Installer crash when trying to install Ubuntu Studio? | 18:57 |
| zequence | I'm reporting the bug in Ubuntu Studio LP page. Then, I'll remove ardour from our meta. That's all I have time for today. | 18:58 |
| zequence | Bug 1614224 | 19:01 |
| ubottu | bug 1614224 in ardour (Ubuntu) "ardour (v5) uninstallable, and causes Ubuntu Studio build failure" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1614224 | 19:01 |
| zequence | Haven't tried installing yakkety on a real machine yet, so could be a VB problem | 19:03 |
| zequence | debootstrap is too old on xenial, so now I need to install another yakkety. Going for the mini ISO | 19:20 |
| zequence | 3h later, all I've been able to do is report a bug.. | 19:20 |
| OvenWerks | For those interested, I would suggest for back ports for US 14.04/16.04 to _not_backport Ardour 5.0 but to wait for 5.1 or 5.2 (5.1 may be skipped) Ardour 5.0 itself works quite well, but one of the LV2 plugins included (a-reverb) has an audible bug (since fixed) | 19:38 |
| zequence | Has the previous backport landed yet? | 19:42 |
| zequence | Think snaps is probably a smarter way to "backport". | 19:43 |
| OvenWerks | zequence: I am not sure, my backports seems to list it, but it may be the test? how do I check? | 19:59 |
| OvenWerks | synaptic says I have 4.7 | 20:00 |
| OvenWerks | but it is a version with a ~ppa1 on the back end. | 20:01 |
| OvenWerks | would it get replaced by a backport if it was in zenial-backports? | 20:02 |
| OvenWerks | *xenial | 20:02 |
| OvenWerks | xenial-backports is enabled on my system. | 20:03 |
| zequence | There are exactly three packages in xenial backports for amd64 so far | 20:04 |
| zequence | ardour is not amongst them | 20:04 |
| zequence | archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/xenial-backports/universe/binary-amd64/Packages.gz | 20:05 |
| zequence | xenial universe backports, to be more precise | 20:05 |
| zequence | Think that also explains why it may be difficult to get one through | 20:07 |
| zequence | Not a big prio, since there are so few | 20:07 |
| zequence | Finally able to at least do an update to the meta. Will upload as soon as it finish, and that should fix the build error. | 20:09 |
| zequence | Would be nice to get ardour fixed before Beta 1 | 20:09 |
| OvenWerks | zequence: yes. | 20:10 |
| zequence | Ardour 5 does seem like perhaps the most important update so far | 20:27 |
| zequence | ..for ardour, that is | 20:27 |
| zequence | Many, many new nice changes. | 20:27 |
| * zequence is looking forward to trying it out | 20:28 | |
| zequence | New meta is up. I might have some time tomorrow again. Adios for now. | 20:44 |
| OvenWerks | see you later. | 21:28 |
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