[16:11] hi guys [16:11] you've got an issue with the ardour 5 package [16:11] this very same issue : https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=834488 [16:11] Debian bug 834488 in ardour,ardour-data "ardour-data and ardour: error when trying to install together" [Serious,Open] [16:11] hope that helps [16:21] trebmuh: Thanks. Hopefully it is fixed in Debian soon, and soon as it is, we need to sync with them [16:21] trebmuh: Did you report that bug? [16:22] If so, and you also use Ubuntu, could you please report it for Ubuntu as well? [16:24] Ah, damn. ardour5 is the package causing the build failure [16:25] no I'm not using ubuntu [16:25] zequence, that's just a matter of 2 lines changes in the debian/ardour.install file [16:26] ie : you just have to replace: [16:26] debian/tmp/usr/* [16:26] by: [16:26] debian/tmp/usr/bin/ardour* [16:26] debian/tmp/usr/lib/* [16:26] and you're good to go [16:27] trebmuh: Thanks. I will have a look and see about fixing that today [16:27] that's what I've been doing for LibraZiK [16:27] zequence, no worries, hope that helps [16:27] I can change the code, but I can't upload in Debian. [16:28] zequence, if I can suggest something as rgareus said on #ardour : "grabbing debian/sid and *directly* publishing it sound like a recipe for disaster." [16:28] that will be fixed in debian anytime soon, I'm sure [16:28] trebmuh: That suggestion is better put to Canonical, or the whole of Ubuntu community [16:29] And, rgareus is just sharing his opinion without actually knowing what it means. [16:29] He's a good coder, but he likes to be anti-Ubuntu, though he has never used it [16:30] indeed, but I'm not using ubuntu :) Just passing on you this bug report which just happened on #ardour in the hope it can be useful to you and the ubuntustudio users. I really hope that can help, specificaly just before your coming soon freeze/etc.. [16:30] If he wants to suggest something for Ubuntu development, he should take part in it [16:30] Bugs can be fixed anytime. The freeze is only for changes. [17:38] zequence: so it looks like debian separates the ardour package into two. I am not sure why, but that seems to be the problem. [17:39] zequence: The files in the packages look like a set of files that have moved for 5.0 to a different location. [17:44] this would indicate that the script debian uses to create the packages has not been modified to the new position. [17:46] zequence: Robin as you say has had so many problems from Ubuntu users (mostly vanilla I might add) that both he and Paul consider Ubuntu the worst dist for audio. [17:47] zequence: however, his comments about US are annoying. He keeps (even after being corrected) paroting the line US is UB with extra packages. and no system set up. [17:49] zequence: it shows a missunderstanding of packaging and ditro building in general. One could also say exactly the same thing kxstudio or avlinux which they recommend. [17:54] zequence: obviously any system changes would be in the form of a package. [17:55] OvenWerks, re: ardour5 package : i think what happened is debian want to switch to a one-only package named "ardour" instead of one "ardour" package and one "ardour-data" package, but did forget to remove the ardour-data.install file [17:55] s/i think/i guess/ [17:55] trebmuh: that would be a great move. [17:56] maybe, yes [17:56] * OvenWerks would like to see libjack-jackd2-dev included in jackd2 [18:10] why so ? [18:19] trebmuh: too many people who want to build something that requires libjack just look for libjack-dev which installs jackd1 and uninstalls any audio project that depends on jacdk2. [18:20] libjack-dev should point to the default jackd dev files [18:20] but it does not. [18:22] It's actually worse than that. If you do a 'apt-get build-dep' for any package that requires audio, you will get libjack-dev, if the jackd2 variant is not installed [18:22] ..for any package that requires jack dev files, I mean, of course [18:30] OvenWerks, mm, yes, make sense [18:30] * zequence is installing yakkety just in order to be able to make the bug report [18:30] has it been reported to the debian BTS ? [18:37] The libjack-dev one? Not sure. I think the actual problem might be that libjack-dev depends on jackd1 and not jackd1|jackd2 [18:38] Or, why does it bring jackd1 in at all? [18:57] Ah, right. Can't install the thing even [18:57] sakrecoer: You reported a bug about that some time ago, did you not? Installer crash when trying to install Ubuntu Studio? [18:58] I'm reporting the bug in Ubuntu Studio LP page. Then, I'll remove ardour from our meta. That's all I have time for today. [19:01] Bug 1614224 [19:01] bug 1614224 in ardour (Ubuntu) "ardour (v5) uninstallable, and causes Ubuntu Studio build failure" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1614224 [19:03] Haven't tried installing yakkety on a real machine yet, so could be a VB problem [19:20] debootstrap is too old on xenial, so now I need to install another yakkety. Going for the mini ISO [19:20] 3h later, all I've been able to do is report a bug.. [19:38] For those interested, I would suggest for back ports for US 14.04/16.04 to _not_backport Ardour 5.0 but to wait for 5.1 or 5.2 (5.1 may be skipped) Ardour 5.0 itself works quite well, but one of the LV2 plugins included (a-reverb) has an audible bug (since fixed) [19:42] Has the previous backport landed yet? [19:43] Think snaps is probably a smarter way to "backport". [19:59] zequence: I am not sure, my backports seems to list it, but it may be the test? how do I check? [20:00] synaptic says I have 4.7 [20:01] but it is a version with a ~ppa1 on the back end. [20:02] would it get replaced by a backport if it was in zenial-backports? [20:02] *xenial [20:03] xenial-backports is enabled on my system. [20:04] There are exactly three packages in xenial backports for amd64 so far [20:04] ardour is not amongst them [20:05] archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/xenial-backports/universe/binary-amd64/Packages.gz [20:05] xenial universe backports, to be more precise [20:07] Think that also explains why it may be difficult to get one through [20:07] Not a big prio, since there are so few [20:09] Finally able to at least do an update to the meta. Will upload as soon as it finish, and that should fix the build error. [20:09] Would be nice to get ardour fixed before Beta 1 [20:10] zequence: yes. [20:27] Ardour 5 does seem like perhaps the most important update so far [20:27] ..for ardour, that is [20:27] Many, many new nice changes. [20:28] * zequence is looking forward to trying it out [20:44] New meta is up. I might have some time tomorrow again. Adios for now. [21:28] see you later.