[00:04] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[03:12] <mappps> hmm
[03:13] <mappps> sleep...try do or watch new bourne
[04:16] <mapps> hmm anyone here watch agents of shield? need a new show to watch
[04:51] <mapps> 26c 69% humid here ARGHHHH
[07:45] <knightwise> Morning everyone
[07:48] <MooDoo> howdy :)
[07:50] <knightwise> hey MooDoo
[07:50] <knightwise> how are you doing today
[07:50] <MooDoo> knightwise: yeah not bad, just winding down for my hols next week :D
[07:51] <knightwise> Lucky
[07:51] <knightwise> hmm. interwebz are spotty at work today
[08:01] <MooDoo> I'm having fun with printers :D
[08:04] <davmor2> MooDoo: dude you print on printers there is nothing fun to be done there, unless you are making a life sized firefly
[08:04] <davmor2> Morning all
[08:07] <MooDoo> davmor2: shush
[08:09] <davmor2> MooDoo: Printers just aren't fun any more you plug it in connect it to the network and connect to it ;)
[08:09] <knightwise> MooDoo is probably herding printers
[08:09] <knightwise> or doing a printer dragrace
[08:11] <MooDoo> having to use old cups drivers as it's rhel 5
[08:14] <davmor2> MooDoo: ah there is you're problem :P
[08:19] <knightwise> Shudders
[08:19] <knightwise> *cups*
[08:20] <davmor2> knightwise: how else do you drink tea?
[08:22] <knightwise> I just chew the leaves and drink boiling water
[08:25] <davmor2> knightwise: hahaha
[08:26] <knightwise> Running Ubuntu mate in a Vm on the surface pro 4, :) Smooth as silk
[08:39] <knightwise> Oooh :) John Carpenter , the guy who makes the "Stranger Things" music ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YZ60mQA4Q8
[08:51]  * popey runs youtube-dl -x "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YZ60mQA4Q8&list=RD3YZ60mQA4Q8"
[08:52] <knightwise> Popey , there is a link to an entire playlist there
[08:52] <popey> yeah, that's what i posted :)
[08:53] <knightwise> Aha :)
[08:53] <knightwise> Great themes there , original Terminator, escape from new york etc
[08:53] <popey> alan@gort:~/Music/John Carpenter/Vortex$ ls -l | wc -l
[08:53] <popey> 48
[08:53] <popey> \o/
[08:55]  * knightwise happy to have made popey's day 
[09:00] <davmor2> NSFW but funny as hell if you haven't seen it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13roSy7kdLI
[09:04] <JamesTait> Roses are red, Or sometimes white, Or yellow, This poem is rubbish.  Happy Bad Poetry Day! 😝
[09:05] <knightwise> DAFFIDILS ...  EXTERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRMINATE DAFFIDILS ... #dalekpoetry
[09:07] <davmor2> JamesTait: there can be only one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UKpZxM-c9w
[09:08] <knightwise> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0HRJqUahlE
[09:12] <davmor2> JamesTait: and for a song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjjMH_PdCvI
[09:17] <brobostigon> good morning boys and girls.
[09:17]  * knightwise looks for hot needle to pierce eardrums
[09:17] <knightwise> morning brobostigon
[09:17] <brobostigon> morning knightwise
[09:21] <davmor2> knightwise: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8JJH7ZL_Fk
[09:25] <knightwise> YOU WIN this battle davmor2 , but you havent won the war !!!!!
[09:25]  * knightwise cackles and disappears in a cloud of smoke
[09:30] <MooDoo> davmor2: knightwise here's one for you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVj0ZTS4WF4
[09:33] <davmor2> MooDoo: kinda reminds me of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXa9tXcMhXQ
[09:34] <davmor2> MooDoo: which then reminds me of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwaxWoJPUC0
[09:36] <knightwise> That is BRILLIANT
[09:40] <davmor2> knightwise: no this is brilliant https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NbnQZrK8xA
[09:40] <davmor2> I love the way bill bailey head works :)
[09:40] <knightwise> Fantastic
[09:41] <knightwise> watching him battle "the match of the day" themesong
[09:41] <knightwise> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRGaoxBTA_0
[09:41] <davmor2> knightwise: the full version from part troll or tinsel worm is better
[09:43] <davmor2> knightwise: enjoy this after https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHhlHhWGUhw
[09:45] <popey> \o/ bill bailey https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4wzJZdmelA
[10:21] <davmor2> popey: you could of just left it at \o/ bill bailey ;)
[10:23] <davmor2> duelling sitars
[10:52] <user123> guys
[10:52] <user123> using 14.04.5 lts, fglrx won't install
[10:52] <user123> it says something is missing and that it is broken. fresh install
[10:53] <daftykins> what card?
[10:54] <daftykins> and kernel
[10:57] <user123> ati radeon 5450 it is supported according to wiki
[10:57] <user123> default kernel
[10:57] <user123> 4.4.0
[10:58] <daftykins> well that's only the default on a newer HWE stack but yeah
[10:58] <daftykins> that's deprecated so you're better off sticking to the 'radeon' open source driver, you won't get newer with that card
[10:59] <user123> yeah a suggestion online suggested to remove the stack but then unity breaks
[10:59] <daftykins> it has long since moved to legacy status
[10:59] <daftykins> yes you would have to install from 14.04.1 media then upgrade to stay on the 3.13 kernel really
[10:59] <user123> i need fglrx. I downloaded this lts because i read that it supported it. now it appears to be a bug
[11:00] <user123> fucccckkk
[11:00] <user123> can't i just install 3.13 ?
[11:01] <daftykins> don't use that language here
[11:01] <user123> brb
[11:08] <MooDoo> darn power cut
[11:08] <daftykins> :o
[11:12]  * zmoylan-pi says a prayer to thor that MooDoo's power is sorted...
[11:21] <user123> yeah sorry for the language
[11:22] <user123> would it be possible to use 3.13 kernel on my current lsb release?
[11:22] <user123> and still get the fglrx to work?
[11:23] <daftykins> didn't you only just install?
[11:23] <popey> 14.04.5 ships with the HWE kernel
[11:23] <daftykins> we've been over that, that's the problem
[11:23] <daftykins> you can go and look up how to purge out the newer Xorg and all the components, drop to TTY and then reinstall 3.13 and its' X.org, but it'd be easier to just install 14.04.1
[11:24] <popey> and never update
[11:24] <popey> and end up with an unsupported system :(
[11:24] <daftykins> no, it updates fine
[11:24] <daftykins> no it will just run 3.13
[11:24] <daftykins> it can still be 14.04.5 - it just won't use an HWE
[11:24] <popey> hm, actually, true, he can stay on 3.13 I guess
[11:24] <popey> wonder if 3.16 works?
[11:24] <user123> i found that solution on stack-exchange but unity breaks with that solution
[11:24] <daftykins> user123: why do you feel you need fglrx?
[11:25] <popey> oh, forget that, yeah, stay on 3.13 then
[11:25] <daftykins> user123: right it needs some work
[11:25] <user123> daftykins: flash is slow and gaming
[11:25] <daftykins> you have a legacy status card, you should just dump it
[11:25] <user123> i need some decend netflix quality
[11:25] <popey> \o/ new card day
[11:25] <daftykins> if you insist, reinstall with 14.04.1
[11:26] <user123> does 14.04.1 have the newer unity updates or at least similar version as to 14.04.5?
[11:26] <daftykins> it's fine, it just bases on the original 3.13 kernel 14.04 came with
[11:27] <user123> alright
[11:27] <davmor2> user123: fglrx is removed from the kernel stack for xenial which is in 14.04.5 so it will not be installable on 14.04.5, You can I believe downgrade the stack by installing linux-lts-wily or something like that
[11:27] <daftykins> already covered that davmor2
[11:27] <daftykins> see the bit about unity breaking
[11:28] <user123> so just for sake of clarity if I install 14.0.4.1 and I run apt-get upgrade it won't upgrade to 14.04.5 right?
[11:28] <popey> well, it will
[11:28] <popey> but not the HWE stack
[11:29] <davmor2> daftykins: oh sorry I only saw kernel changing not the full stack
[11:29] <user123> ok that is good enough for me
[11:29] <daftykins> user123: you can run dist-upgrade just fine
[11:29] <daftykins> (and should)
[11:30] <user123> daftykins: so with dist upgrade it will stay with 3.13 kernel? what is the difference then between apt-get upgrade and dist-upgrade?
[11:31] <daftykins> yes it will
[11:31] <user123> also guys, what tool would you recommend me to use to get the iso to usb?
[11:31] <popey> ddrescue
[11:31] <user123> ok time to reboot
[11:31] <user123> thanks
[11:31] <popey> ddrescue -d -D --force path/to/iso /dev/sdX
[11:32] <popey> (package is gddrescue)
[11:32] <daftykins> cp :D
[11:32] <popey> hah
[11:33] <daftykins> another wrong channel customer aptly disposed of
[11:34] <daftykins> those graphics card legacy status moves have a really surgical way of severing users
[11:34] <davmor2> cat (Why not it's all just reading 1's and 0's from files anyway) :D
[11:34] <daftykins> hehe
[11:35] <zmoylan-pi> wait till quantum computing takes off. 1's 0's and boxes of cats...
[11:35] <daftykins> i don't even know whether to buy food for the cats
[11:36] <daftykins> it's a nightmare!
[11:36] <zmoylan-pi> are they looking at you like you're the last steak in the house? :-P
[11:36] <daftykins> they're all in boxes and i can't observe whether they're alive or dead
[11:37] <zmoylan-pi> open the fridge door...
[11:37] <gebruiker> http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/14.04.1/ leads to 14.04.2  guys
[11:37] <daftykins> look down the list and you will see the correct image
[11:37] <daftykins> http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/14.04.1/ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso
[11:38] <gebruiker> thanks
[11:38] <daftykins> may want to pay a little bit more attention in future ;)
[11:38] <gebruiker> yeah I have been up all night trying out distros. You know in search of the perfect one
[11:39] <gebruiker> is there an alternative that you can recommend that has GUI instead of ddrescue?
[11:40] <daftykins> you don't need a GUI to prepare a flash drive
[11:40] <popey> ddrescue is awesome
[11:41] <gebruiker> Also the opensource ATI Radeon driver, how does it perform in comparison to the proprietary driver  in terms of general use i.e netflix, youtube. espesially with a hd 5450?
[11:41] <daftykins> the answer to that is on a card by card basis
[11:41] <daftykins> there's no universal statement for all the cards AMD make/made
[11:42] <daftykins> why ask that now when you've already been provided with the plan to avoid it entirely? :)
[11:43] <gebruiker> daftykins, if I am dissapointed with the result of the proprietary driver then I have to either switch back to the latest LTS or decide this machine to be just a windows machine because netflix, youtube, office apps ran fine
[11:43] <daftykins> no you do not need to switch back
[11:44] <daftykins> gebruiker: or you could buy a £25 graphics card and all these problems go *POOF!*
[11:46] <gebruiker> no job atm
[11:47] <gebruiker> btw what works best? nvidia?
[11:48]  * zmoylan-pi casts ward evil at mention of nvidia... :-)
[11:49] <popey> generally, yes.
[11:49] <gebruiker> intel then eyh?
[11:49] <daftykins> nvidia
[11:50] <gebruiker> I am unable to remove the files from my usb drive it is mounted as read only. Is there a way in ubuntu through the GUI to remount it easy?
[11:50] <daftykins> the eject button beside the drive in nautilus
[11:51] <daftykins> all this is much easier in the terminal :)
[11:52] <zmoylan-pi> when you know all the commands to memory
[11:52] <popey> you dont need to remove them if you dd over the top
[11:53] <gebruiker> popey, are you sure because if something broks my install I have to start all over again
[11:53] <daftykins> zmoylan-pi: if only there were an IRC channel perhaps with folk in that respond
[11:53] <daftykins> ;D
[11:54] <zmoylan-pi> on slack you say? :-P
[11:55] <daftykins> hey you're supposed to like the old things, not the flavour of the week!
[11:55] <gebruiker>  mount -o remount,rw /dev/sdc1 /mnt/ -t fat32mount: cannot remount block device /dev/sdc1 read-write, is write-protected
[11:55] <zmoylan-pi> sorry, i read it on a bbs... :-)
[11:56] <daftykins> gebruiker: you don't need it mounted at all, umount it
[11:56] <daftykins> make sure no window has it open, too
[11:57] <gebruiker> ddrescue is running to bad it does not format it
[11:57] <gebruiker> i wanted to clean the usb drive first
[11:57] <daftykins> when writing an image, formatting isn't necessary
[11:58] <daftykins> no that's irrelevant
[12:13] <gebruiker> daftykins, alright its finished. btw on windows i used c.flux any good alternatives you can recommend me?
[12:14] <gebruiker> *f.lux
[12:14] <gebruiker> f.lux makes your computer screen look like the room you're in, all the time.
[12:15] <daftykins> you'll need to aim that to the rest of the channel, i don't use Linux on the desktop
[12:15] <zmoylan-pi> windows user!! :-P
[12:15] <gebruiker> alright going for a reboot now return later
[12:15] <daftykins> \o/
[12:15] <daftykins> typing from my Linux server :P
[12:16] <zmoylan-pi> typing from console on rasp pi...
[12:16] <daftykins> wouldn't console mean direct input? i thought you SSH'd over from some horrible netbook :D
[12:18] <zmoylan-pi> from netbook running lubuntu, or s40 nokia phone or laptop running linux mint... still from console
[12:18] <daftykins> i thought 'console' was only to mean using a TTY directly on the device itself
[12:19] <user123> if netflix or youtube is going to perform poorly I might have to return to my previous OS :(
[12:19] <user123> fingers corssed
[12:19] <user123> dardevil is just a too good of a show hahaha!
[12:20] <BigRedS> Hah, I use Android for tricky things like video playback
[12:21] <daftykins> gebruiker: so you're actually new to Linux this week entirely?
[12:21] <zmoylan-pi> i watch all my videos on android tablet... currently an 8" i got from argos sale for €99.  thinking of going back to my 4.5" one...
[12:21] <daftykins> honestly it sounds like your hardware is not appropriate
[12:22] <gebruiker> daftykins: yeap.. well I installed it 10 years ago
[12:22] <gebruiker> daftykins: have to make the best with what I got :)
[12:22] <zmoylan-pi> usually the older the hardware the better the linux support
[12:22] <daftykins> not anymore
[12:22] <daftykins> legacy graphics card and up to date distro = no go
[12:23] <daftykins> thanks to AMD at least :)
[12:24] <gebruiker> at the end of the day i just want something stable and that works and that doesn't spy on me :P
[12:24] <zmoylan-pi> dos :-D
[12:24] <daftykins> sigh. tinfoil hat alert
[12:25] <gebruiker> I don't have large antena's attached to my tinfoil hat haha
[12:25] <zmoylan-pi> and i thought we came to the conclusion lead foil is were it's at? :-)
[12:25] <gebruiker> lol
[12:25] <daftykins> progress is slow, sir
[12:26] <daftykins> gebruiker: your requirements are many DRM related things that'll likely always work worse under Linux
[12:27] <knightwise> gebruiker: you in .be or .nl ?
[12:27] <daftykins> nobody should make a decision based on flash though, that's a dead duck
[12:27] <gebruiker> knightwise: .nl
[12:27]  * knightwise waves his .be flag :) 
[12:27] <gebruiker> i like .be - great food and ppl
[12:28] <gebruiker> daftykins: well still much in use it seems
[12:28]  * knightwise points at the rest of the room .. See ! Belgians ARE cool :p
[12:28] <daftykins> gebruiker: less and less, depends what you use
[12:28] <daftykins> there are often alternatives / easily avoided
[12:29] <gebruiker> daftykins: but wouldn't you rather spend time doing other things than finding work arrounds?
[12:29] <daftykins> well i don't need to because i don't do flash things
[12:29] <daftykins> gebruiker: and sure, that's why i run Windows :P
[12:29] <daftykins> my games just work! :D
[12:29] <knightwise> Only archeologists still do flash
[12:29] <gebruiker> installation is done
[12:30] <gebruiker> daftykins: you are such a tease
[12:30] <gebruiker> brb
[12:30] <daftykins> :o
[12:30] <zmoylan-pi> you're in there daftykins :-P
[12:31] <daftykins> having seen the topic went from how to get AMD to work to "i'm a tinfoil hat wearer, save me from the spying" i want nothing to do with this one anymore
[12:31] <daftykins> this printer job i got asked to attend is looking better by the minute...
[12:32] <knightwise> Compared to hear , monthy python is more predictable
[12:32] <daftykins> that guy was just running an IRC client as root, too
[12:32] <daftykins> you lot are welcome to that one ;)
[12:33] <zmoylan-pi> what type of printer? :-)
[12:33]  * zmoylan-pi imagines daftykins taking 12 hours explaining why a winprinter won't work on linux...
[12:34] <daftykins> i'm told they've finally murdered their Ricoh multi-function and want something put in place of it as they still - no idea why - use fax with suppliers in England
[12:34] <zmoylan-pi> ah... fax... that'll be easy... :-P
[12:34] <daftykins> it was almost suggested on the phone that some cheap canon be put in place to handle fax, i'm not sure if they know that you can't plug a printer into another printer and share features
[12:35] <zmoylan-pi> i've got a 2400 baud fax modem you can have... :-D
[12:35] <knightwise> again : Archeologists
[12:36] <zmoylan-pi> oh, if you want old, give me a day and i can a modem that draws more power than the 10 pcs in the same room... :-)
[12:37] <zmoylan-pi> though i think it's limited to 300 baud...
[12:39] <daftykins> anywho often the real job differs greatly from what that one says in a call, so it's anyones best guess ;)
[12:39] <zmoylan-pi> oh yeah... my printers not working translates to my printer caught fire, was thrown out window, hosed down and now we want you to pop out and make it work again...
[12:40] <zmoylan-pi> oops, 2nd story window, i always leave that little bit out for some reason... :-)
[12:42] <daftykins> well they know it's dead, but the briefing was "we have some tiny canon we want to use temporarily"
[12:44] <zmoylan-pi> temporarily... any time that was used... i once set up a computer to print 'temporarily' via ir till they got a cable 2 days later bouncing the ir signal off a strategically placed mug... 2 weeks later the mug was on a sheet of paper saying 'do not move'
[12:47] <gebruiker> alright!
[12:48] <gebruiker> it works! running apt-get upgrade as I type.
[12:57] <popey> \o/
[13:06] <gebruiker> is there anything I can do kernel wise to increase responsiveness?
[13:18] <BigRedS> how are you defining 'responsive'? And why kernel-wise?
[13:28] <diddledan> http://www.welivesecurity.com/2016/08/18/nsa-website-goes-hackers-auction-stolen-cyber-weapons/
[13:29] <diddledan> it's up at the moment. maybe they've fixed it?
[13:35] <gebruiker> BigRedS, well I am open for other options
[13:41] <TwistedLucidity> Responsiveness in what way? You could overclock, for example, not burden the GPU with compositing or even a DE.
[13:41] <TwistedLucidity> Fit and SSD...
[13:41] <gebruiker> brb
[13:41] <TwistedLucidity> i.e. what is the requirement?
[14:12] <diddledan> intel is licensing arm IP now?!
[14:13] <diddledan> ref: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-37106572
[14:19] <popey> they have done for years
[14:19] <popey> It's wierd, Intel could crush arm in a moment, but i guess that's anti-competitive
[14:19] <diddledan> aye
[14:19] <popey> tricky now softbank own them too
[14:20] <diddledan> 24bn is a huge purchase
[14:22] <davmor2> diddledan: no it isn't
[14:23] <davmor2> diddledan: it's big not huge
[14:23] <diddledan> said the actress to the bishop
[14:25] <davmor2> oh get you and smutty innuendo, also why is the word innuendo so innuendous (or some word similar to that)
[14:25] <diddledan> innuendish?
[14:26] <diddledan> an innuendism?
[14:26] <diddledan> innuit?
[14:26] <davmor2> diddledan: muppet
[14:27] <diddledan> no, I don't think muppet works
[14:27] <Seeker`> diddledan: I don't think they're licensing from ARM, I think they're making ARM chips for clients
[14:27] <davmor2> diddledan: so let me redefine, You Muppet!
[14:35] <diddledan> I think I'm gonna rewire my PC today
[14:36] <diddledan> I'm fed-up looking at the messy cable layout I made without thinking
[14:42] <BigRedS> just put the lid back on the case, problem solved
[14:44] <diddledan> unfortunately it's got one of those silly windows
[14:46] <BigRedS> ah, that was silly
[14:46] <BigRedS> err, is this linux?
[14:47] <diddledan> o_O
[14:47] <BigRedS> wrong box!
[14:48] <BigRedS> experimenting with IRC in pidgin, getting confused
[14:48] <diddledan> aah
[16:36] <diddledan> apple showing stuff I don't understand but still awesome that it's low-level debug output they're showing: https://youtu.be/BLGFriOKz6U
[16:39] <daftykins> diddledan: hilarious one, one of my wealthy clients bought an iMac for home use a bit ago, but he wants rid now because every time he goes to do something it's not like Windows in the office, so it makes his life a nightmare :D
[16:39] <daftykins> proper smug mode on that one 'cause i warned of that
[16:39] <diddledan> I'll take it if it's going free :-p
[16:40] <diddledan> even better if you pay me to take it :-D
[16:40] <daftykins> hahaha
[16:40] <daftykins> it's a non optical drive cheese slicer edges one ;)
[16:40] <daftykins> i dunno what he'll do with it
[17:43] <zmoylan-pi> i got my first mac mini cheap second hand from a person who wanted to run windows apps in vm on mac but was confused by mac os
[17:43] <popey> hah
[17:44] <zmoylan-pi> i did have a pink imac prior to that from someone who couldn't sell it as it was pink... i bought it as i pointed out no one would ever nick it...
[17:46] <zmoylan-pi> a steal for €150, whisper quiet, great for the bedroom
[18:04] <diddledan> ICANN's job is "No As A Service": Dan Kaminsky's Black Hat keynote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAGwol-keXM
[18:05] <diddledan> roughly at 35 minutes
[18:06] <daftykins> zmoylan-pi: weird when they could've installed Windows natively, but yeah silly approach regardless :>
[18:09] <zmoylan-pi> they had installed parallels but i think it might have been the lack of windows key on keyboard that really threw them off
[18:09] <diddledan> :-o
[18:09] <diddledan> no windows key?!
[18:09] <zmoylan-pi> their loss was my gain
[18:09] <diddledan> that's unpossible!
[18:10] <daftykins> XD
[18:10] <zmoylan-pi> and then when they tried using with windows keyboard mac os 'didn't make sense'...
[18:10] <daftykins> bootcamp would've handled that ;) albeit had it in the wrong place
[18:11] <zmoylan-pi> i think they wanted magic keyboard that changed depending on the os they chose to use that day...
[18:13] <daftykins> standard user :)
[18:14] <zmoylan-pi> rich standard user that they could just dump a mac and get a silly expensive replacement running windows
[18:14] <daftykins> mac minis were quite underpowered iirc
[18:15] <diddledan> I'm wondering how that decision process went: "I need this app which needs windows. I am comfortable with windows. I know, I'll get a mac!"
[18:16] <daftykins> a wealthy client had a girlfriend who wanted a mac but wanted to run Windows once - as horrified as i was, i set it up
[18:16] <zmoylan-pi> at the time macs were been described as some of the best hardware to run windows on
[18:16] <daftykins> maybe aesthetically for people that way inclined, but they always run worse
[18:17] <zmoylan-pi> but when people see something in print it's hard to prise that out of their memory no matter how wrong it is
[18:17] <zmoylan-pi> unless you're allowed use a lart of course... :-)
[18:28] <daftykins> lart?
[18:29] <zmoylan-pi> luser attitude readjustment tool... http://catb.org/jargon/html/L/LART.html
[18:30] <diddledan> live action role something
[18:30] <daftykins> live action rotten tomato
[18:30] <diddledan> mmmm
[18:30] <zmoylan-pi> sometimes called a clue by four... :-)
[18:30] <daftykins> these games are fun :D
[18:30] <diddledan> live action rude tube?
[18:42] <m6lpi> Beelink BT7. Ubuntu able?
[18:43] <daftykins> m6lpi: can you try that one again in English?
[18:43] <m6lpi> H as anyone had success with installing Ubuntu on a Beelink BT7?
[18:44] <daftykins> http://www.gearbest.com/tv-box-mini-pc/pp_362725.html
[18:44] <daftykins> i would say it isn't worth the risk to try
[18:44] <daftykins> might work, might have a locked down EFI/BIOS
[18:45] <m6lpi> We have one at my ARC and wanted to find out if it was doable
[18:45] <m6lpi> I suspect it is locked down, but not too familiar with efi
[18:46] <daftykins> sometimes these lower end things make it hard, can only find out if you start to give it a try really
[18:46] <m6lpi> OK... I'll see what I can do with it...
[18:46] <daftykins> eric in #ubuntu is great with EFI boot issues :)
[18:46] <m6lpi> Cool, thanks for the pointer
[18:47] <zmoylan-pi> 'issues'... :-)
[18:49] <daftykins> yeah some budget end devices make it a challenge, sometimes they even used 32-bit EFIs to make it tough
[18:50] <zmoylan-pi> pitting their wits against hackers... it's merely a matter of time, isn't it?
[18:54] <daftykins> i don't think we've seen many anymore
[18:54] <diddledan> mr robot today shows nano and nginx config
[18:54] <daftykins> :)
[18:54] <daftykins> i'm still not gonna touch it 'til it's done
[19:17] <diddledan> squeely tires outside
[19:18] <zmoylan-pi> probably someone detected a rare pokemon in your area
[19:18] <diddledan> maybe
[19:19] <diddledan> damned poke ya mom
[19:27] <diddledan> ooh this episode has a big twist
[19:27]  * diddledan zips the mouth
[19:29]  * zmoylan-pi gets out the glove puppets and re-enacts the scene...
[21:05] <mapps> ugh typical morrisons out of fans
[21:05] <mapps> :(
[21:19] <zmoylan-pi> you don't buy fans in summer, winter is the time to get them cheap
[21:25] <daftykins> he might mean people to worship him
[21:26] <zmoylan-pi> then tescos is the place for cheap fans... :-)
[21:27] <daftykins> i sold one of the PCs yay \o/
[21:27] <daftykins> only 5 left :P
[21:28] <zmoylan-pi> huzzah \o/
[23:45]  * daftykins spies kitten 
[23:45]  * daftykins looks at christel 
[23:45]  * daftykins squints