[00:05] <knome> hah
[00:09] <Unit193> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/279529126/buildlog_ubuntu-xenial-amd64.xfce4-notifyd_0.3.0-0ppa1+gtk3~16.04_BUILDING.txt.gz very helpful...
[00:51] <Unit193> knome: Or, it's a new daemon, faild! :D
[00:52] <knome> mm, intriguing!
[00:54] <Unit193> g_warning ("Faild to parse css file : %s\n", error->message);  Oooooh nice stop to have it...
[00:55] <knome> not error->massage at least
[00:55] <Unit193> Dial that colon back too while you're at it.
[00:55] <knome> yeah.
[00:56] <Unit193> g_warning ("Failed to export interface: %s", error->message);  and remove \n?  I dunno! :D
[00:57] <knome> depends on the context i guess
[01:00] <Unit193> ochosi: http://paste.openstack.org/raw/AWpwBfQ00IymiGnQQaSR/ :>
[01:00] <knome> Mogwai - Dial Revenge (Welsh - English version)
[01:00] <knome> INTRO
[01:00] <knome> no?
[01:00] <knome> what just happened
[01:00] <Unit193> :D
[01:01] <knome> i guess some weird middle-click paste
[01:01] <knome> though i didn't know i had that in clipboard
[01:24] <Unit193> bluesabre, ochosi: Got all the panel plugins that have had GTK3 releases in my staging repo now.
[01:35] <Unit193> ochosi: Plz2upd8?  https://wiki.xfce.org/releng/4.14/roadmap  exo had a release and so did eyes.  Oh, and if you'd make releases of notes and clipman we could break more. :D
[09:55] <ochosi> Unit193: thanks, pushed
[09:56] <Unit193> ochosi: Copied a bunch of panel plugins over thanks to Dave's testing.
[09:58] <ochosi> nice
[09:58] <ochosi> i'll give them a shot
[09:58] <ochosi> btw, what about the notes release? that has had gtk3 support for quite a while
[09:58] <ochosi> the only thing it needs is fixing for gtk3.20
[09:58] <ochosi> that will likely horribly break it
[09:59] <Unit193> 1. We have 3.20 now, so it'd be broken.  2. Thought we were waiting on a release. :P
[10:00] <Unit193> ochosi: Wasn't there a patch for xfce4-panel that unbroke xfconf?  Do shimmer themes have fixes for the xfce4-notifyd breakage?
[10:01] <ochosi> i don't know of such a patch
[10:01] <ochosi> one would have to get in touch with ali and ask him to fix it or provide a patch
[10:01] <ochosi> the notifyd breakage is covered by the latest greybird release
[10:01] <ochosi> in numix the .osd class will be used
[10:01] <ochosi> so the notifications will look ok and integrated, maybe not as before though
[10:01] <ochosi> so it's not real breakage
[10:02] <ochosi> bluesabre: we should maybe take a look at this one (it's a bit annoying) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1306362
[10:03] <bluesabre> ochosi: that file is for defaults, I think there might be a config option to disable user wallpaper
[10:03] <Unit193> \o/
[10:04] <Unit193> Oh crap, bluesabre time already. ._.
[10:04] <bluesabre> bluesabre time
[10:04] <bluesabre> can't touch this
[10:04] <ochosi> bluesabre: hm maybe i didnt read the bugreport correctly then. what i get here is the flashing of the user wallpaper for a second and then the system wallpaper takes over
[10:05] <bluesabre> ah, didn't read the comments (since thats not where bug reports go for something closed years ago)
[10:09] <knome> ochosi, i think i get that too
[10:10] <knome> ochosi, it worked once with some boot not a long time ago
[10:10] <knome> ochosi, but then it reverted back to old behavior
[10:11] <knome> though i haven't done any special config..
[10:11] <knome> and i'm on intel
[10:11] <ochosi> same here
[10:13] <knome> do you have a black blink?
[10:13] <knome> that's the most annoying part
[10:14] <knome> it also denies you from inputting stuff during that
[10:14] <knome> so practically i just have to wait for that to happen...
[10:14] <ochosi> yup
[10:15] <knome> yup
[10:15] <knome> then sounds like the same bug
[10:15] <ochosi> i'd say so, yes
[10:15] <knome> so is the fix committed/released status real?
[10:16] <ochosi> well we have the same bug, it's not really the one reported, only the final comment is
[10:16] <knome> okay
[10:17] <knome> should one of us file the bug then
[10:20] <knome> or in other words, are you doing it now? if not, i can do it
[10:20] <ochosi> please do so, am prepping lunch
[10:20] <knome> against the greeter?
[10:21] <ochosi> yup
[10:21] <knome> on it
[10:25] <knome> bug 1614474
[10:27] <knome> feel free to confirm
[10:27] <knome> and linked to our bugs blueprint
[10:29] <bluesabre> definitely does not affect me
[10:31] <knome> intel?
[10:36] <bluesabre> yup
[10:36] <bluesabre> or nvidia
[10:36] <knome> weird
[10:36] <knome> i actually think i might have this on both
[10:36] <knome> but i'm not completely sure about nvidia
[10:36] <knome> i should check the next time i boot desktop
[10:40] <ochosi> bluesabre: lucky you
[10:40] <bluesabre> not so
[10:40] <ochosi> i also have this consistently on pretty much all my machines
[10:40] <bluesabre> it's hard to fix what I can't reproduce ;)
[10:41] <bluesabre> these days I depend on patches for most fixes
[10:42] <bluesabre> but I'll take a look
[10:42] <bluesabre> I think the greeter might not even build with current gtk
[10:51] <ochosi> yeah, that's possible
[10:51] <ochosi> i'm using it with gtk3.20 but it was built against 3.18
[10:52] <ochosi> that combination works
[11:00] <ochosi> bluesabre: i guess you have to update the progress percentage on exo on the roadmap page, i have no clue about that :)
[11:18] <bluesabre> ochosi: will do
[11:19] <bluesabre> ochosi: there are some dialogs that exo creates, dunno if you want to go in and make sure they don't look bad (using gtk defaults, soooooo)
[11:19] <bluesabre> bbl
[11:21] <bluesabre> and I think I want to revive the xfce python bindings so I can rewrite less code in python :D
[11:21] <bluesabre> really bbl
[11:22] <ochosi> bluesabre: python bindings would be awesome!
[11:22] <ochosi> and yeah, can take a look at the dialogs i guess
[21:28] <Unit193> ochosi: Also, know why notifyd didn't compile on Xenial?
[21:54] <bluesabre> grumpy notifications?
[22:06] <ochosi> Unit193: no?
[22:07] <Unit193> OK, juuuust figured I'd ask.  Copying it over.
[22:08] <ochosi> hmm
[22:08] <ochosi> well there is an open bugreport against building with gtk<3.20
[22:08] <Unit193> (Basically, you know more Xfce4 happenings than I do, this is bleeding edge.)
[22:08] <ochosi> https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12737
[22:08] <Unit193> That's the one.
[22:08] <ochosi> but gaston had no issues with it
[22:08] <ochosi> maybe go and poke him
[22:08] <Unit193> But he's scary! :3
[22:09] <ochosi> last time i tried i didn't get the right answer
[22:09] <ochosi> but i was likely not asking the right question
[22:10] <ochosi> iirc he said something about the patches that gentoo carries
[22:10] <ochosi> do we have patches against notifyd in ubuntu as well?
[22:10] <ochosi> maybe something needs refreshing (just an idea)
[22:11] <Unit193> No patches, and that'd have failed yakkety too.  It is having xdt-autogen run as part of the build process.
[22:11] <ochosi> hmm, not sure then
[22:11] <ochosi> haven't had time to look into the issue myself yet
[22:11] <ochosi> then again i'm not sure i'd know exactly what to look for
[22:13] <Unit193> Well, certainly like the GTK2 one better, but it does function, so over it goes.
[22:13] <ochosi> what exactly is more to like?
[22:14] <ochosi> i see almost no difference between the gtk2 and the gtk3 vresion
[22:16] <ochosi> anyway, i'll see whether i can find someone who can help with this issue
[22:16] <Unit193> The settings, just typical GTK3 stuff so doesn't matter.  Of course there's only Somke, Default, and ZOMG, I'm sure more themes will come later. :)
[22:16] <ochosi> if you figure it out lemme know and submit a patch
[22:17] <ochosi> yeah, i'm working on it (see my blog post)
[22:17] <ochosi> already ported over the two greybird themes
[22:17] <ochosi> i'll move those to upstream notifyd (since it was the initial idea to ship with a few more default themes)
[22:17] <ochosi> and add at least a third one
[22:18] <ochosi> anyway, time to get some sleep
[22:18] <Unit193> Didn't notice the huge preview button that goes across the entire dialog?  I like the older style tickers, but meh.  (I'm really only going to hold the old one due to themes, because it's not like you see the settings dialog enough to annoy you.)
[22:18] <Unit193> Sleep well.
[22:19] <ochosi> yeah, i made it look that way, i still think that's ok though
[22:19] <ochosi> (and has nothing to do with gtk3)
[22:19] <ochosi> anyway, it's possible i'll redo the settings dialog, at least once i work on per-app settings or dont-disturb mode
[22:21] <Unit193> (GTK3 stuff is the dropdown box, newer ticker style, and generally bigger dialog, fwiw.  Anywho, not my point.)
[22:22] <ochosi> what dropdown box?
[22:22] <ochosi> at least here comboboxes look exactly as they did in gtk2...
[22:23] <Unit193> Really?  I'm using Numix on both, should be the same...
[22:27] <ochosi> with greybird they do
[22:27] <ochosi> anyway, night now (for realz)
[22:28] <knome> for lulz!
[22:32] <Unit193> knome: I'm not even close to able to get rid of py2.
[22:33] <knome> huh
[22:59] <bluesabre> ochosi: I know it's not on the xfce 4.14 roadmap, but I think porting and working with every component is a good chance to clean up interfaces and collect around some standards
[22:59] <bluesabre> maybe put some mini-hig basics in the wiki or something to that extent
[22:59] <bluesabre> (not #xfce-dev but xfce-devish stuff)
[23:00] <Unit193> sidi loves doing that. >_>
[23:00] <knome> :P
[23:00] <bluesabre> :D