[08:44] <acheronuk> yofel: akonadi Depends: akonadi-backend-mysql (= ${source:Version})
[08:45] <acheronuk> should that not be? Depends: akonadi-backend-mysql (= ${source:Version}) | akonadi-backend-sqlite (= ${binary:Version}) | akonadi-backend-postgresql (= ${source:Version}),
[08:45] <acheronuk> or is just the one backend an intentional choice for kubuntu?
[09:56] <ahoneybun> wow Linux Mint left their KDE version pretty vanilla for once
[10:03] <ahoneybun> oh snap Kate got movable tabs in 16.08
[10:11] <yofel> acheronuk: that's intentional
[10:12] <yofel> (until akonadi gets runtime available backends detection)
[10:14] <acheronuk> good to know. thanks :)
[10:15] <clivejo> mhall119: RE: Canonical becoming a KDE patron - why KDE and why now?
[10:27] <clivejo> acheronuk: where did you get the powered by Kubuntu logo?
[10:27] <clivejo> https://www.kubuntuforums.net/image.php?u=30786&dateline=1467882511&type=profile
[10:27] <clivejo> and can you get stickers?!?
[10:28] <ahoneybun> new link?
[11:02] <clivejo> ahoneybun: what you mean?
[11:23] <ahoneybun> clivejo: that link does nothing
[11:45] <mparillo> ahoneybun: Try this (you may need to logon to KFN first): https://www.kubuntuforums.net/member.php?30786-acheron
[11:46] <mparillo> Oh cancel that. You meant the ultimate source, correct?
[12:35] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
 I very rarely use that forum, or forums in general
 Need to change that since my position
[12:57] <acheronuk> clivejo: http://amai-biscuit.deviantart.com/art/Kubuntu-Badge-345130672
[13:12]  * clivejo likes that logo
[13:30] <acheronuk> clivejo: yep. seen a fair few stickers/badge designs over the years, but that is quite nice in a simple way
[14:04]  * clivejo applauds @ yofel's nomination 
[14:05] <clivejo> short and sweet :P
[14:05] <yofel> right, so, where's yours? :P
[14:05] <clivejo> noone will vote for me
[14:07]  * mamarley would vote for clivejo if he could vote.
[14:07] <clivejo> and you'll have to vote for yourself! 
[14:07] <clivejo> arent you a Kubuntu member mamarley?
[14:07] <mamarley> I don't think so.
[14:07] <clivejo> mmmmm
[14:07] <clivejo> you should be!
[14:08] <clivejo> wheres valorie
[14:08] <mamarley> How does one get to be a Kubuntu Member?
[14:08] <clivejo> can you ride a donkey?
[14:09] <mamarley> clivejo: I have never tried to ride a donkey.  I can ride a horse though.
[14:09] <clivejo> then you'll be fine :P
[14:10]  * BluesKaj recalls the th old saying by Groucho Marx. "I won't join any club that would have me as a member" :-)
[14:10] <clivejo> but on a serious note ---> https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/Membership#Requirements
[14:11] <mamarley> clivejo: I wouldn't call my contributions significant or sustained though.
[14:11] <clivejo> you helped me out a few times, thats significant :P
[14:12] <mamarley> I did, but what I did wasn't very hard and it has been a while since then.  Or maybe my impostor syndrome is just acting up again…
[14:12] <clivejo> you are selling yourself short
[14:13] <yofel> FWIW: we need at least another nominee, and if there is only one more, there will be no voting :P
[14:14] <yofel> so for the sake of democracy, can another two people please apply? ^^
[14:14]  * acheronuk nudges clivejo
[14:16] <clivejo> is Myriam standing down?
[14:16] <yofel> that's what she said she plans to do at least, unless she changed her mind
[14:16] <yofel> (that was a year ago)
[14:16] <clivejo> oh
[14:17] <mamarley> Is this for membership?
[14:17] <clivejo> didnt realise that
[14:17] <yofel> mamarley: council
[14:17] <clivejo> mamarley: KCC elections
[14:17] <mamarley> Ah, OK.
[14:17] <yofel> you could go for membership and apply next year ;)
[14:18] <clivejo> if I get on the KCC can I make myself a dev without the interview?
[14:18] <yofel> no, while the council owns ~kubuntu-dev, it is not a member itself
[14:19] <clivejo> awww
[14:19] <mamarley> clivejo: I think you should apply for KCC. :)
[14:19] <acheronuk> +1
[14:20] <yofel> I mean, you *could* technically do it I think? But some people might want to talk with you if you do that :P
[14:20] <clivejo> I like talking
[14:20] <clivejo> just dont like interviews!
[14:21] <yofel> well, if the KC ever does statements, they get posted on behalf of the KC, not by individual members of it
[14:22]  * clivejo prefers to sit in the shadows
[14:23] <yofel> well so do I, unless there is really nobody else left that takes care of whatever comes up
[14:23] <yofel> anyway, you have a couple days to think about it
[14:23] <yofel> bbl
[14:29] <mhall119> clivejo: we were invited to join KDE e.V.
[14:29] <clivejo> mhall119: by whom?
[14:30] <mhall119> Aleix specifically, but I understood it to be on behalf of the whole group
[14:46] <clivejo> if one decided one would like to learn how to write programs for Plasma and KF5, where would one look?
[14:53] <mhall119> clivejo: http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qtexamplesandtutorials.html perhaps?
 Perhaps indeed
[16:10] <clivejo> did anyone test digikam?
[16:24] <wxl> ok kind of noobish kwin scripting question. workspace.clientList() appears to pump out an array including id, but walking the array and trying to print .id returns undefined. what am i missing?
[16:25] <clivejo> wxl: #plasma or #kde-devel might be a better place to ask?
[16:26] <acheronuk> **clang goes the portcullis**
[16:26] <acheronuk> Feature freeze in effect
[16:27] <clivejo> and still hardly any of our stuff made it in :(
[16:27] <wxl> oh yeah great idea :) thanks clivejo 
[16:33] <acheronuk> clivejo: it's possible QT/FW/plasma is about to migrate. maybe. possibly. if we are lucky
[16:33] <clivejo> if something else doesnt pop up and set us back again
[16:35] <clivejo> yofel: https://code.launchpad.net/~panfaust/kubuntu-packaging/+git/dolphin/+merge/303412 looks reasonable, you any objection if I push it?
[16:36] <clivejo> or are they pulled in elsewhere?
[16:36] <acheronuk> clivejo: well looks like much of it has vanished from update_output.txt, I wait with everything crossed
[16:38] <mamarley> Look at this: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtbase-opensource-src/+publishinghistory
[16:39] <mamarley> It looks like all that crap is just about to make it into the main archive!
[16:40] <clivejo> about time too!
[16:40] <acheronuk> mamarley: seems so :) 
[16:40] <acheronuk> I still don't get how the last thing to hold it all up was a new kernel, but there you go!
[16:41] <mamarley> (Does this mean we can get FW 5.25 and Plasma 5.7.3 now?)
[16:41] <clivejo> mamarley: probably not
[16:41] <clivejo> will have to fight to get apps 16.04.3 in
[16:42] <mamarley> :(
[16:43] <mamarley> Not even since Plasma 5.7.3 is a bugfix release?
[16:43] <clivejo> maybe, but it hasnt been looks at yet
[16:44] <clivejo> looked 
[16:44] <acheronuk> depends if they snuck any new 'features' in with it
[16:45] <clivejo> acheronuk: do you have Neon handy?
[16:45] <acheronuk> in a VM
[16:46] <clivejo> could you find out what deps on ffmpegthumbs
[16:48] <acheronuk> 'neon-all' meta-package and 'digikam' by the looks of it
[16:49] <clivejo> I wonder should kubuntu-desktop be pulling it in, or dolphin
[16:55] <Mirv> tsimonq2: yofel: acheronuk: I'm not sure if I'm dreaming but the transition is happening
[16:56] <acheronuk> Mirv: Yes. Seems so \o/
[17:11] <ahoneybun> kenlive 16.08 is out!
[17:11] <ahoneybun> \o/
[17:15] <ahoneybun> !info kdenlive
[17:16] <ahoneybun> clivejo: is there a way to help get 16.08 packaged?
[18:01] <clivejo> ahoneybun: maybe KCI could build it for you
[18:02] <ahoneybun> no idea how to use it
[18:02] <ahoneybun> I don;t want to break things
[18:03] <clivejo> http://kci.pangea.pub/job/merger_kdenlive/
[18:03] <clivejo> looks like both XX and YY are building
[18:03] <clivejo> and in the green
[18:06] <clivejo> maybe copy it from unstable into your own PPA and add that to your system?
[18:07] <ahoneybun> mm I try it in a little 
[18:07] <ahoneybun> just find a inkscape snap!
[18:07] <ahoneybun> and it works
[18:16] <clivejo> ahoneybun: get anywhere with the installer?
[18:18] <acheronuk> ahoneybun: you on YY?
[18:21] <clivejo> mhall119: so Canonical/MS were KDE's first patron and that relationship started in approx 2006 to 2012 when support was dropped for both KDE and Kubuntu, what has changed between 2012 and now?
 clivejo, not atm I can';t get it to load the UI at all
 acheronuk, I am on my desktop
[18:24] <clivejo> is your desktop xenial or yakkety?
 my desktop is Kubuntu 16.10 with all staging ppa's , laptop had Ubuntu 16.04.1
[18:27] <clivejo> !info libkf5iconthemes5
[18:27]  * clivejo rolls eyes
[18:27] <clivejo> still stuck in proposed
 what is with the questions?
[18:28] <clivejo> questions?
 nvm
[18:31] <acheronuk> https://launchpad.net/~acheron/+archive/ubuntu/yakkety/+build/10639619
[18:32] <clivejo> need to add proposed
[18:32] <clivejo> !info libkf5coreaddons-dev 
[18:32] <clivejo> still frameworks 5.22 in archive
[18:32] <acheronuk> or let them migrate, as that version will be there soon
[18:33] <clivejo> i guess
[18:33] <clivejo> Im trying to copy the relevant packages to a PPA
[18:33] <clivejo> but as usual the publisher is being slowwww
[18:35] <clivejo> ahoneybun: you mean my questions to mhall119?
[18:35] <ahoneybun> oh no
[18:35] <clivejo> just curious, lot of talk about it all over the internet
[18:37] <ahoneybun> is there?
[18:37] <santa_> clivejo: what are you trying to copy?
[18:38] <clivejo> working set of packages to install kdenlive
[18:38] <acheronuk> oooh! on yakkety http://paste.ubuntu.com/23071193/
[18:39] <clivejo> oh good lord
[18:39] <clivejo> Ive gone blind
[18:39] <santa_> finally?
[18:40]  * clivejo hi fives acheronuk and santa_
[18:40] <acheronuk> :D
[18:40] <santa_> o/
[18:40] <ahoneybun> some packages are pushed to the repos now?
[18:40] <acheronuk> yofel: we have some migration!
[18:41] <ahoneybun> sweet
[18:41] <clivejo> python3-pyqt5 (5.6+dfsg-1build1~ubuntu16.10~ppa1 => 5.7+dfsg-1) ?
[18:41] <ahoneybun> awesome work everyone
[18:42] <ahoneybun> mm can't connect to KCI
[18:42] <santa_> before you get your hands into fw 5.25 remember that I have some pending patches to fix ftbfs'es
[18:43] <clivejo> they should probably go into kubuntu_unstable
[18:44] <santa_> I think they should go into _archive followed by an archive upload, otherwise you are going to release 5 frameworks which will fail to build
[18:44] <clivejo> you'll have to speak to yofel about that
[18:44] <clivejo> I dont have upload rights
[18:45] <santa_> sure
[18:45] <clivejo> santa_: have you worked on an archive sync script?
[18:45] <santa_> btw, clivejo have you seen my kde4libs merge request? it's very important
[18:46] <santa_> not sure what you mean exactly with "archive sync script"
[18:46] <santa_> something to sync git with whatever it is in the archive?
[18:47] <santa_> if that's the question no
[18:47] <clivejo> to check that what we have in git (ie kubuntu_yakkety_archive) matches what is in the archive
[18:47] <santa_> aha, no I don't have that
[18:47] <santa_> last thing I worked on KA was the bumping system fixes and the overrides feature
[18:47] <santa_> by the way, talking about that
[18:48] <clivejo> staging upload seems to do some kind of check
[18:48] <santa_> some build depends where wrongly bumped due to that apps map updating issue
[18:49] <clivejo> oh?
[18:49] <santa_> so the way they are some pacages *might* fail to build if you din't get lucky with the build order
[18:50] <santa_> so they are 2 possible ways to deal with it
[18:50] <santa_> a) cheap solution - keep them as they are and re-bump and re-upload whatever fails
[18:50] <acheronuk> santa_: BTW, the KA 'new-release' script is another that assumes you are running in 'packagename/git/', and fails if you are not
[18:51] <santa_> acheronuk: I know, I didn't change that yet because I have some plans for that which I would like to discuss calmly once I get my work3 branch merged into master
[18:52] <santa_> b) premium solution - re-bump build depends in applications and re-upload to the ppa
[18:55] <clivejo> do you a list of the packages affected?
[18:55] <ahoneybun> clivejo, sounds like unixstickers are cleared to make them
[18:55] <ahoneybun> just need to get them to do it
[18:56] <santa_> clivejo: I have a list of packages which *might* fail to build, they are 19 or so
[19:02] <clivejo> santa_: it will depend on what version yofel wants to ship in Yakkety
[19:04] <yofel> probably 5.25 - it'll need an FFE though, and comes after apps and digikam
[19:04] <clivejo> if stick with current packaging, then we will have to patch
[19:04] <santa_> yofel: o/
[19:04] <yofel> the bugfixes can go up as 5.24 though, and probably should
[19:04] <clivejo> if we go for new versions then we need to get to work fixing and opening FFE
[19:04] <clivejo> ah yofel
[19:04] <clivejo> speak of the devil and he appears!
[19:05] <santa_> yofel I'm glad you are here, may I poke you about the things I got on my table for you?
[19:05] <clivejo> yofel: can we write that down somewhere
[19:06] <yofel> you may, I'm a bit absent minded though so my replies will be laggy
[19:06] <santa_> ok, first and most important one, the kde4libs patch
[19:07] <santa_> I made a merge request, it's a patch which fixes a bug which affects the exported ABI of the kdelibs so it's very important
[19:08] <clivejo> ==> https://code.launchpad.net/~panfaust/kubuntu-packaging/+git/kde4libs/+merge/303245
[19:08] <santa_> yeah, that one, thanks clivejo
[19:08] <yofel> -# SymbolsHelper-Confirmed: 4:4.14.22 amd64 i386
[19:08] <yofel> +# SymbolsHelper-Confirmed: 4:4.14.11 amd64 arm64 armhf i386 powerpc ppc64el
[19:08] <yofel> -> huh?
[19:08] <ahoneybun> clivejo, also need to know if that user who made that logo wants to share
[19:10] <yofel> hm, that preview diff doesn't look like what's in the commits...
[19:11] <clivejo> ahoneybun: Licenced under CC3.0
[19:11] <ahoneybun> which means?
[19:11] <clivejo> https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/
[19:11] <ahoneybun> Unixstickers is cleared to make them if they want to, according to mhall119 
[19:11] <santa_> yofel: keep in mind that I had to revert a symbols updating
[19:13] <clivejo> not sure how you would give appropriate credit on a sticker
[19:24] <clivejo> yofel: regarding installation of ffmpegthumbs, santa_ submitted a patch to have the dolphin package recommend it's installation
[19:25] <clivejo> this makes a lot of sense, but its omitted from Debian and Neon have it in a meta package
[19:25] <soee> o/
[19:25] <clivejo> is there a reason for this?
[19:25] <soee> \o
[19:25] <yofel> I'm 99% sure it's fine. I think there were licensing worries in the past - and image disk space
[19:25] <clivejo> hi soee
[19:26] <soee> hiho all
[19:26] <soee> clivejo: tere was a bug with this screen disabled i asked you to toest :)
[19:26] <soee> *test
[19:26] <soee> sebas tracked it down: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=367490
[19:27] <clivejo> why did it work on mine?
[19:28] <soee> you have the same size of screens or the bigger one was on the left side in configuration ?
[19:28] <clivejo> external is bigger
[19:29] <soee> located on the left or right side ?
[19:29] <clivejo> I have the external one on the wall behind, so it on top of my laptops 
[19:29] <soee> ah so maybe this way also works :D
[19:38] <clivejo> where is simon and his magic merger fixer upper
[19:41] <yofel> he simply runs git merge without dpkg-mergechangelogs
[19:41] <clivejo> holy moly
[19:49] <acheronuk> that kdenlive built for what it's worth, and runs
[19:51] <valorie> clivejo: your earlier statement about Canonical becoming a patron of the e.V. -- they never were before; Mark Shuttleworth personally put up some money
 might have something to do with Unity8
 just might
[19:52] <valorie> and while Canonical stopped paying a developer to work on Kubuntu some years ago, they have never stopped supporting us with infrastructure, etc.
 Early end to my vacation :(
[20:24] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: doesn't sound good
[20:33] <valorie> what happened, tsimonq2?
[20:33] <valorie> we're happy to see you back, but..... vacation is good!
[21:21] <mhall119> sgclark: sitter: would KDE Frameworks work if they were located in a non-standard folder in an application snap's install space?
[21:22] <mhall119> like, /snap/kdevelop/x1/kde/
[21:22] <mhall119> instead of /snap/kdevelop/x1/usr/ where they likely are now?
[21:23] <mhall119> without having to have that full path as a build-time prefix
[21:24] <mhall119> I'm playing with the content-sharing interface, and it will let you bind-mount directories from one snap to another, but it doesn't do an overlayfs kind of thing so you can't share the same space
[21:29] <sgclark> mhall119: possibly with some env magic. I am certain sitter is out for the weekend by now
 Heyo sgclark
[21:30] <sgclark> howdy
[21:30] <mhall119> sgclark: I'm about to be as well, I'll give you both another ping on Monday
 How's things in KDE land?
[21:30] <sgclark> ok
[21:30] <sgclark> busy
 good busy?
[21:32] <mhall119> ahoneybun: since you seem away from IRC, I need to see your new snapcraft.yaml before I can help you more
 Yea my bad need to take my roommate somewhere
 I can tell you that removing pithos-run broke everything
 So I put it back and removed that config stuff
[21:34]  * clivejo points at ahoneybun
[21:34] <clivejo> kitten killer
 Left it building till I get back
[21:40] <mhall119> ahoneybun: judging by the error message, I think you changed something more than just removing pithos-run
 I think that config I did is not needed anymore
 Since the new snapd  update
[21:53] <tsimonq2> acheronuk, valorie: uncle had to go home early
[21:53] <tsimonq2> problems with his GF
[21:53] <valorie> boo
[21:54] <sgclark> hi valorie, at some point we need to talk about akademy? when are you arriving etc
[21:54] <valorie> oh yes, I'll email you
[21:54] <sgclark> cool thx
[21:55] <sgclark> was kubuntu day set yet?
[21:55] <sgclark> so confusing with all the qt stuff mixed in
[21:56] <sgclark> clivejo: you going to akademy?
[21:56] <clivejo> apparently I am
[21:56] <sgclark> woohoo
[21:57] <sgclark> yay :)
[21:57] <clivejo> extremely nervous about it!
[21:57] <sgclark> yeah my first was nerve racking, it was still a grand time :)
[21:57] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: A shame
[21:58] <clivejo> havent been out of Ireland for a while
[21:58] <acheronuk> clivejo: akademy sounds a lot of fun :)
[21:58] <sgclark> yeah my first akademy was my first escape from the states in over a decade, now I travel much more. love it.
[21:59] <clivejo> it sounds it yes
[21:59] <sgclark> it is a blast
[21:59] <sgclark> have not missed one since
[21:59] <clivejo> but Im bad understanding people speaking english accent
[21:59] <clivejo> never mind strong german accent
[22:00] <sgclark> I am getting used to all the different accents. in person seems easier than in video chat
[22:00] <valorie> not sure anyone claimed some Kubuntu time
[22:00] <valorie> we can't have a whole day
[22:00] <valorie> more like a half-day twice or so
[22:00] <sgclark> we all tend to stick together anyway, so half day probably fine
[22:01] <acheronuk> I'm very envious
[22:01] <acheronuk> in a friendly way
[22:02] <sgclark> next year apply and go :)
[22:02] <sgclark> acheronuk: are you a kubuntu member?
[22:02] <acheronuk> not yet
[22:02] <sgclark> apply! I see you put in work
[22:03] <acheronuk> I'm waiting out the 6 months
[22:03] <sgclark> I am verey happy things are rolling along here in my life madness break.
[22:03] <sgclark> cool
[22:03] <clivejo> sgclark: where you based these days?
[22:04] <sgclark> I had to move to Arizona, still in the states
[22:04] <tsimonq2> I'm waiting *exactly* six months to apply for Kubuntu membership
[22:04] <sgclark> I am considering a move to Berlin, we'll see where life takes me
[22:04] <tsimonq2> (although I'm still an Ubuntu member)
[22:04] <valorie> oooo, how exciting, sgclark
[22:04] <sgclark> hi tsimonq2 :) nice to see you here
[22:04] <tsimonq2> o/ sgclark, how are you? :)
[22:05] <sgclark> life is improving, so I can't complain
[22:05] <tsimonq2> when I'm older at one point I might move to Europe. I like the timezones a little better. :P
[22:05] <tsimonq2> that's good sgclark :)
[22:05] <sgclark> ditto
[22:07] <sgclark> yeah valorie we have much catching up to do, I look forward to seeing you
[22:07] <sgclark> looking at the dates we have a day to explore Berlin?
[22:08] <valorie> at least one, yes
[22:08] <sgclark> woot
[22:08] <valorie> can't recall exactly now
[22:08] <tsimonq2> WHAT I've been gone for a day and a half and I have *514* unread emails!?!
[22:08] <tsimonq2> woooooooooooow
[22:09] <sgclark> yeah I gave up on mail, I simply can't keep up :(
[22:09] <tsimonq2> I obsess over it. My inbox is always clean.
[22:09] <tsimonq2> :P
[22:09] <sgclark> wow nice
[22:09] <sgclark> I get like 10000 a day lol
[22:10] <sgclark> too many mailing lists! and update from a bizzilion project commits, and CI spam galore.
[22:10] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: you have the boundless energy of the very young, so can keep up
[22:10] <valorie> filtering works
[22:10] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: except for when I get physically tired :P
[22:10] <tsimonq2> yep valorie 
[22:10] <sgclark> yeah, I have tried. gmail hates me. and kmail is always broken it seems :(
[22:11] <sgclark> but I have seen that you got the launchpad workflow going, that makes me very happy.
[22:12] <valorie> me too
[22:12] <valorie> I think it's coming together
[22:13] <sgclark> clivejo:  you apply for dev yet?
[22:13] <acheronuk> he should
[22:13] <clivejo> nope
[22:13] <sgclark> bah
[22:13] <sgclark> you should
[22:14] <acheronuk> interview won't be that bad
[22:14] <clivejo> I dont want to suffer the interview
[22:14] <sgclark> lol
[22:14] <clivejo> ha, says you!
[22:14] <sgclark> well
[22:14] <clivejo> devs are evil
[22:14] <sgclark> it was dreadful, but only happens once :)
[22:14] <acheronuk> can't be worse than my degree vivas
[22:14] <valorie> baptism by fire!
[22:15] <clivejo> they prey on your weakness and devour you!
[22:15] <sgclark> probably be me yofel and sitter likely
[22:16] <sgclark> clivejo: I think you will pass with flying colors
[22:16]  * sgclark urges clivejo to apply
[22:16] <sgclark> I will gete to bug you in person in a week or so :)
[22:17]  * acheronuk hands clivejo yet another application form
[22:17] <tsimonq2> sgclark: throw clivejo into a river for me, will you? :P
[22:17]  * tsimonq2 runs
[22:17] <sgclark> lol
[22:17] <clivejo> it would take a few of you to throw me in a river
[22:17] <valorie> into the Spree!
[22:17] <clivejo> might need Harold and Phil too
[22:18] <valorie> just get ya drunk first
[22:18] <sgclark> lol
[22:18] <clivejo> yeah
[22:18] <valorie> not that there is much drinking at Akademy!
[22:18] <clivejo> and tell me theres a bottle of whiskey in the river
[22:18] <clivejo> Ill go get it!
[22:18] <valorie> rolf
[22:18] <valorie> I mean rofl
[22:19] <tsimonq2> lol
[22:19] <valorie> you and Riddell can fight about whisky vs whiskey
[22:20] <clivejo> Ill call him a twinkle
[22:20] <valorie> he'll call you a wee twonkle
[22:20] <tsimonq2> if I continue to be around the Kubuntu folks in a year, hopefully I can convice someone to fly me out to Akademy so I can push clivejo into a river myself :P
[22:20] <sgclark> haha
[22:20] <sgclark> lol
[22:20] <sgclark> poor clivejo
[22:20] <sgclark> destined to be wet
[22:21] <clivejo> we'll see :P
[22:21] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: I'll help clivejo throw YOU in
[22:21] <valorie> visit here, clivejo -- hot dry and windy here
[22:21] <valorie> 33 now
[22:22] <clivejo> Im 6'2" and built like a brick **** house
[22:22] <sgclark> hot hot hot here. 
[22:22] <tsimonq2> so on September 9th, I'll know how tall I'll be
[22:22] <sgclark> and monsoon too so humid
[22:22] <clivejo> be interesting seeing tsimonq2 push me anywhere
[22:22] <tsimonq2> let me explain why I know how tall I'll be in #k-offtopic :P
[22:23] <acheronuk> only time I've been to the states, I froze my ass off in a wintery Washington DC :(
[22:23] <valorie> I'm about to broil there, visiting my youngest
[22:23] <clivejo> do you have weetabix in the US?
[22:23] <valorie> yes, in health food stores
[22:24] <valorie> maybe in whole foods or so
[22:43] <acheronuk> marble? how can one package have so many missing symbols!
[22:45]  * acheronuk hides marble under something so he doesn’t have to look at it
[22:47] <sgclark> lol
[22:48] <sgclark> okies I have ot take off, catch you all later. I will keep an eye out for your email valorie
[22:50] <tsimonq2> o/ sgclark