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claycorngreetings02:52
ethanghas anybody else tried to install oracle db on the new distribution?03:39
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Traian74i  have installed kubuntu 16.10.1 and i have no sound when i try to play media ...04:52
Traian74what could be the problem?04:52
valoriepff05:00
user|51225i would like to use kubuntu by removing w7; is their any option for running any software in kubuntu that works on w705:11
valorieyes, wine05:14
valorie!wine05:14
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valorieuser|51225: there are lots of great native applications05:15
user|51225thanks valorie05:17
user|51225thanks ubottu05:17
valorieuser|51225: if you say what you need, we may be able to find a native application that will work for you05:18
valoriewhen I switched, which was very long ago, I had a few favorites I wanted to keep05:18
valoriebut ended up 100%05:19
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knifeworkhello09:54
knifeworkanyone here?09:55
rovapHello knifework09:59
yetanothercouchsknifework: hi09:59
knifeworkhello, rovap09:59
knifeworkcan anyone direct me to a place where I can get some linux help. I am in a bit of a bind.10:00
rovapknifework: do you have a kubuntu related question?10:00
rovapYes that is here10:00
rovap:)10:00
knifeworkshew10:00
rovapOr possibly, depends on your distor10:00
rovapDistro**10:00
knifeworkOk, so I just started my semseter and my laptop died. I have a chromebook, but I needed to be able to run packet tracer, so I installed Linux on it. I have never used it before.10:01
knifeworkI have KDE via crouton10:01
knifeworkI can't figure out how to install packet tracer10:01
rovapHmm do you know how to get to a Linux she'll?10:07
rovapShell**10:07
knifeworkapologies, but I am super noob. I may get terminologies confused. Do you mean the terminal?10:08
rovapYes I do, my fault10:08
knifeworkno, no. I actually installed the program, but I must have done so incorrectly. When I type packettracer in the terminal it doesn't start up. it says something about the core dumping and aborts10:09
knifeworkthe program files are in the opt folder, though.10:10
rovapHmm what method did you use to install packet tracer?10:10
knifeworkI had to download it from netacad.com. i extracted it it, and then typed ./install into the terminal10:11
rovapHmm :/10:12
rovapI don't have access to a computer right now10:12
rovapMaybe someone else can help you10:13
knifeworkis there a command to uninstall programs?10:13
rovapDepends on how you installed them10:13
rovapIf you check the directory where you ran the ./install10:13
rovapFor something along the lines of uninstall10:14
rovapOr remove10:14
knifeworkthis will sound weird, but I tried to delete the files from my downloads folder, and it wld not allow me to move a jpg file inside of them to the trash10:15
knifeworkso it is stuck in my download folder now10:15
knifeworkwhat does it mean that Packet Tracer is showing up in the "lost and found" applications?10:20
Vroapknifework: That is extreamly strange10:21
VroapLet me do some research10:21
Vroapknifework: Files that appear in lost+found are typically files that were already unlinked (i.e. their name had been erased) but still opened by some process (so the data wasn't erased yet)10:22
Vroapknifework: Check the output of the command ftop10:23
VroapFor clarification: what you see when you run the command10:23
Vroapftop10:23
knifeworkI just discovered that I can right click on packet tracer and click uninstall. But when I do that, it says "the files which should be removed are not part of any installed software"10:24
VroapHm10:24
VroapHmm10:24
VroapWhere are you rightclicking?10:24
VroapIn a file manager such as dolphin?10:24
knifeworkon the program in the "start" menu. I am not sure what it is called here10:24
Vroapooh10:25
VroapOkay :/10:25
knifeworkftop command is not found10:25
VroapTry top10:25
VroapWhat come up when you type top10:25
knifeworka lot of stuff :P10:25
Vroap:P10:25
Vroapcan you see a name related to packet tracer10:25
knifeworkno, I see nothing related10:26
VroapHmm10:26
VroapThat is strange :/10:26
VroapI don10:26
VroapI don't think that I can help you here10:26
VroapMaybe someone else :/10:26
knifeworkthe packet tracer files that are in the opt folder...should I try to delete them?10:27
knifeworkand reinstall maybe?10:27
VroapAre you sure that is the only place where they are?10:27
VroapCheck your /etc10:27
knifeworkI honestly have no idea10:27
VroapThere might be config files ther10:27
Vroape10:27
VroapTry just running the installer again10:28
VroapMight replace things that have gone missing or other stuff10:28
knifeworknot seeing anything in /etc10:28
knifeworkrelated to PT, that is10:29
VroapHmm :/10:29
knifeworkok, so I just downloaded a fresh tar.gz file of PT10:31
VroapYes!10:31
VroapOkay10:31
VroapExtract it10:31
knifeworkto install it properly, what should I do?10:31
knifeworkto anywhere?10:32
VroapTo anywhere that you have access to10:32
VroapLike your home directory10:32
knifeworkI extracted it to /Downloads10:32
VroapOkay10:33
VroapCd into the extracted PT10:33
VroapAnd then tell me what files are in there10:33
knifeworkwhat does Cd mean?10:33
VroapChange directory10:34
knifeworksorry10:34
VroapNo worries10:34
Vroapog10:34
Vroapoh**10:34
knifeworkhow do I Cd something10:34
VroapYou aren't working from a tty10:34
Vroap?10:34
VroapOpen the terminal10:34
VroapWe are going to do everything from the terminal10:34
knifeworkI was in dolphin. Ok, terminal open10:34
VroapAwesome10:34
VroapType ls10:34
VroapThis is all the directories that are in the folder you are in10:35
VroapYou can see the path to the folder next to where you type in your text10:35
VroapThen type cd Downloads10:35
FritigernTIP: Whilst in Dolphin, press F4 to open the terminal pane10:35
VroapOoh10:35
VroapRight10:35
VroapThanks Fritigern10:35
* Fritigern tends to forget that trick too.10:36
Vroapknifework: Open a dolphin window10:36
knifeworkwhen I typed cd downloads, I got "No such file or directory"10:36
VroapGive me the output of pwd10:37
VroapActually no10:37
VroapGo to dolphin10:37
VroapAnd then press10:37
Vroapf410:37
knifeworkdone10:37
VroapOkay10:37
VroapNow when you click on directories you can see that the terminal window inside of dolphin is changing10:38
knifeworkyes10:38
VroapOkay so go into your downloads folder by clicking on it in dolphin10:38
VroapGod damn it10:39
VroapI need to go :O10:39
VroapI am sorry10:39
VroapMy teacher is forcing me10:39
knifeworkthat's ok. thanks so much10:39
VroapNo problem10:39
VroapIf you are still having problems when I get home I might be able to help you10:39
VroapByy10:39
hateballknifework: Linux is case sensitive, Downloads and downloads are not the same10:56
hateballknifework: also, crouton installs are a bit different to a vanilla *ubuntu10:56
knifeworkAh, ty. I was keeping the case correct10:57
knifeworkdoes anyone know what this means? /usr/local/bin/packettracer: line 8:  9951 Aborted                 (core dumped) ./PacketTracer7 "$@" > /dev/null 2>&111:16
hateballknifework: You're using a Cisco application not packaged with Kubuntu, so this is not really the place for support11:16
hateballthat said, you can run the app with gdb and see why it segfaults11:17
hateballcheck dependencies with ldd11:17
knifeworkoh. do you happen to know where I might look? I thought I was using kubuntu11:18
hateballknifework: Yes, but the application you've grabbed off a website is not packaged and in the ubuntu repos, and as such not supported11:18
hateballSo it's hard, impossible even, for anyone to help you troubleshoot since we dont have access to the software11:19
knifeworkI see. Sorry. I've never ran linux before. I am probably over my head. My laptop just died, so I was trying to make Package Tracer work on my chromebook for the short term.11:19
hateballknifework: Nothing to be sorry about, I am just telling you what to expect :)11:20
hateballknifework: a quick google brings up https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=17603511:22
hateballknifework: so perhaps their app is poorly packaged, who knows11:22
hateballknifework: and as I said, you can run "ldd /path/to/binary" to see if it expects some libs you dont have installed11:24
knifeworkjust type that in terminal?11:25
knifeworkI feel like an idiot :P11:25
hateballknifework: yes11:27
hateballknifework: except that in your case /usr/local/bin/packettracer seems to be a script that tries to launch the real binary from elsewhere, so you'll have to read and see what it intends to do11:28
hateballknifework: So, contacting the vendor of this application is probably your best option11:29
knifeworkI will try that. Thanks very much.11:30
hazamonzoHey folks. What the easiest way to create a bootable USB disk in Kubuntu?11:43
hazamonzoIs there a native tool or do i have to go looking for a third party one?11:43
hateballhazamonzo: there is a startup disk creator11:44
hazamonzohateball: Whats the name of the app? :)11:45
hateballhazamonzo: alt+space (or alt+f2) to open krunner, search for startup11:45
hateballshould give you suggestions11:45
hateballI dont recall the name11:45
hazamonzohateball: I'll take a look. Thanks!11:46
hateballhmmm, maybe that is broken in 16.04 come to think of it11:46
hateballhazamonzo: if you have an iso you can simply use dd as well11:47
hazamonzoYeah looks like its not there.11:47
hazamonzoIt is an iso (kodi.iso) but im unaware of dd11:47
hateballhazamonzo: run usb-creator-kde in a terminal11:48
hazamonzohateball: Just need to install it first11:49
hateballhazamonzo: otherwise using dd is quite simple11:49
hateballoh, hmm, it should be default iirc11:49
hateballah no it is in universe, oh well11:50
hazamonzo:D11:50
hateballanyhow, dd would be "dd if=/path/to/file.iso of=/dev/sdX" where sdX is your removable device11:50
hazamonzohateball: That simple eh?11:51
hateballone can add the option of bs=4m to speed things up also11:51
hazamonzoIf i fail with usb-creater-kde then i'll give dd a shot11:51
hateballhazamonzo: but yes, it is that simple11:52
hateballhazamonzo: needs to be run with sudo tho, since you are writing straight to a device11:52
hazamonzohateball: Understood11:52
hazamonzoOminous... https://ibin.co/2s6HUo2GJvmi.png11:52
hateballhazamonzo: yes I had the same, it pops up some installing prompt that does nothing11:53
hateballseems it is broken in 16.0411:53
hateballas if you cancel, it closes the whole app11:53
hazamonzohateball: Am i good to close it though? Its asking is im sure i want to abort the ... "installation"11:53
hazamonzoHa! So it does!11:53
hazamonzodd is it then!11:54
hateballbe very careful to pick the right device so you dont overwrite your OS drive :)11:55
hazamonzohateball: hahah. Don't say that! It was my next question.... how can i identify the USB stick?11:55
hazamonzoI have a fair amount of partititions on this thing11:55
hateballhazamonzo: a number of ways "sudo fdisk -l" should give you a hint11:56
hateballor remove the device and insert it anew, run "dmesg" directly after and it should tell you what it has been assigned11:56
hazamonzohateball: Sounds good.11:57
hateballif you only have one drive with multiple partitions, that will be /dev/sda*11:57
hateballand the removable device will be /dev/sdb*11:57
hazamonzoAhhh, i have two internal drives (HD, and SSD) so im guessing they will be sda and sdb11:58
hateballYes11:58
hazamonzoI have a SDC so im guessing that the USB but i'll do the dmesg11:58
hateballremove the usb device and run fdisk to be sure11:58
hazamonzoUnderstood11:58
hazamonzoIf i drop off IRC then you'll know i messed up :)11:59
hateballheh11:59
hateballso, assuming it is sdc, your command would be "sudo dd bs=4m if=/path/to/iso.iso of=/dev/sdc status=progress"12:00
hateballstatus=progress is optional, it just shows... progress :)12:00
hazamonzoBetter to see progress than sitting in the dark!12:00
hazamonzoOkay... so without the USB disk mounted the command sudo fdisk -l | grep sdc returns nothing, with it mounted it return the disk with the correct size for the USB12:01
hazamonzoSo i think im safe to say that sdc is the USB disk12:01
hateballyes12:01
hazamonzo(whew)12:02
hateballand as you are using dd to write to the device, not a partition, everything else on the drive will be gone12:02
hazamonzoThats okay. Its empty anyhow12:02
hateballjust in case you have partitioned it12:02
hazamonzodd: invalid number: ‘4m’12:02
hateballhazamonzo: typo, 4M12:03
hateballanyhow it works without specifying block size as well, just goes faster if you do12:04
hateballhazamonzo: oh and after the command finishes succesfully, be sure to run "sync" to be sure everything is flushed to the disk12:04
hazamonzoI see12:05
hazamonzoHmmm, odd command executed okay but no progress report. Just waiting on the terminal12:06
hateballhazamonzo: which kubuntu are you on?12:06
hazamonzoMaybe it didn't mount 100% correctly when i took it out and put it back in12:06
hateballhazamonzo: you shouldnt mount it at all12:06
hateballthat is, if it has any partitions on it, do not mount them12:06
hateballjust plug in the device12:07
hazamonzohateball: 16.0412:07
hateballhmmm12:07
hazamonzoOkay. I didn't mount it anyhow so it had the little unmounted pause icon in Dolphin12:07
hazamonzoOh here you go!12:07
hazamonzo210+0 records in12:07
hazamonzo210+0 records out12:08
hazamonzo880803840 bytes (881 MB, 840 MiB) copied, 199.916 s, 4.4 MB/s12:08
hazamonzoJust no progress report during12:08
hateballweird12:08
hateballmaybe the option needs to go before the if/of12:08
hateballI dont recall12:08
hazamonzoNo worries12:08
hateballanyhow, run "sync" to be sure it is flushed12:09
hazamonzorun it from anywhere?12:09
hateballyes12:09
hazamonzoOkay done12:09
hazamonzoam I able to mount the dusk now to check files were copied?12:10
hateballhazamonzo: should be12:10
hazamonzo*disk12:10
hazamonzoHmm http://pastebin.com/bCS12csV12:10
hazamonzoAny thoughts on this one? :)12:10
hazamonzoDidn't want to flood the channel12:11
hazamonzodmesg is saying "EXT4-fs (sdc1): VFS: Can't find ext4 filesystem"12:12
hateballhazamonzo: do you know if the iso you use is not corrupted?12:12
hazamonzohateball: Just downloaded it from the website so im assuming its okay12:12
hateballheh12:12
hazamonzoI cna always try and stick a different iso on it to be sure though12:12
hateballyeah, try that12:12
hazamonzois it a problem that the USB stick was fat32 in the first place?12:13
hateballor loop-mount the iso12:13
hateballhazamonzo: nah, when you dd it overwrites everything12:13
hateballwell, the MBR12:13
hazamonzoInteresting12:13
hazamonzoI'll try and write the xubuntu.iso to it12:13
hateballhazamonzo: you can try just mounting the iso and see if it can be read. or open it with ark or something12:14
hateballto make sure it isnt corrupted12:14
hazamonzoGood thinking12:14
hateballaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand you can try using dd without the bs parameter12:14
hazamonzookay. I'll give all these options a try. Looks like the kodi iso opens up okay in ark12:15
hazamonzoI'll try xubuntu first, then i'll try without the bs option12:15
hazamonzohateball: By the way you were right about the status=progress needing to come before the if/of12:16
hateball:)12:16
hateballtyping things from memory isnt always reliable12:17
hazamonzohateball: I appreciate the help by the way. Im a little out of my depth with this kind of stuff12:17
hazamonzohateball: being able to recall this stuff from memory in the first place is pretty impressive12:17
hateballhazamonzo: no worries, it's quite easy once you've done it once or twice12:17
hazamonzohateball: I think thats the issue. Im alright with "using" linux for my day to day but when it comes to fixing issues or doing things outside of my normal day job like this... i struggle12:18
hateballknowing how to google is half the battle :p12:19
hazamonzohateball: However, if you find you need help with any data anlytics or what not then feel free to give me a shout!12:19
hateball:D12:19
hazamonzohateball: Oh sure, if you can't google in this business you're doomed. At least when you google a linux issue you get pretty straight forward answer. I dread having to google a windows issue and seeing the replies like "turn it off and on again!"12:20
hateballSo it goes12:21
hazamonzoInteresting, xubuntu wrote correctly12:21
hazamonzoI'll try kodi again12:22
hazamonzohateball: Looks like the second attempt of create a bootable kodi disk work. I appreciate all the help. I've made notes :)12:33
hazamonzoThanks12:33
BluesKajHiyas all12:35
hazamonzoHi BluesKaj12:35
BluesKajHi hazamonzo12:35
hateballhazamonzo: good !13:15
hazamonzohateball: Thanks! Now im battling the kodi install with no network or suitable graphics drivers! Hurrah!13:18
BluesKajhazamonzo, then there's no point trying kodi without those drivers13:24
hazamonzoBluesKaj: Ahh are you familiar with Kodi then?13:25
hateballhazamonzo: why are you not just running Kodi on your kubuntu install?13:25
BluesKajyes, to some degree, I use the internet tv part ...13:26
BluesKaj I prefer vlc for everything else media-wise13:27
hazamonzohateball: Well I have recently purchased a nuc you see? :)13:28
hazamonzoSo i was hoping to create a dedicated kodi machine using kodibuntu13:29
hazamonzoMy Kubuntu is my work laptop13:29
BluesKajhazamonzo, maybe a raspberry pi would suit you better for media use with kodi13:29
hazamonzoBluesKaj: Could be!13:29
hazamonzoSee the odd thing about the kodi install... is that the second install screen where you can choose to download updates ect while installing, says there is not network connection (and this is connected on ethernet)13:30
hazamonzoXubuntu (which im testing now) says there is a network connection for updates during installation13:30
hazamonzoI was hoping that if kodi had a network connection during installation it might be able to get these openGL drivers also13:30
hazamonzoFunday Friday113:31
hazamonzoI guess if all else fails then i'll just install kodo on top of Xubuntu13:31
BluesKajno hazamonzo, kodi doesn't install drivers , you need to use apt or the package manager for that13:31
hazamonzoBluesKaj: I was thinking that but..... when i get to the login screen kogi complains about the openGL drivers and thats fine13:32
hazamonzoI nip out into a teminal using ctrl alt F113:32
hazamonzoand still not network connection13:32
hazamonzoSo im kinda stuck when it comes to instlling any drivers13:32
BluesKajI have kodi installed on kubuntu 16.04 as an ordinary package like all others13:32
BluesKajworks fine13:33
hazamonzoBluesKaj: Im thinking of going that route now but using Xubuntu instead as its pretty lightweight13:33
hazamonzoLike i said before, I was hoping to use the packaged kodibuntu though13:33
BluesKajyes hazamonzo that would work13:33
hazamonzo:)13:34
BluesKajhazamonzo, I've tried those all in one media OSs and so far they all fail to live up to the promises13:35
BluesKajkodibuntu included in that list13:35
hateballhazamonzo: I use raspbmc (outdated) on my RPi, but if you have a recent NUC I fail to see the reason for a dedicated kodi distro13:35
hateballhazamonzo: the overhead is neglible13:36
hateballI'd just install a regular *ubuntu and run kodi. less headache and easier troubleshooting13:36
BluesKajrpi3 is the best way to go with the raspbian OS, in my experience13:37
BluesKajit even comes with a wfi that works outy of the box , so no need for ethernet cables13:38
BluesKajhazamonzo, and hateball has a good point as well, so you have a couple of options13:41
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hazamonzoBluesKaj: hateball: Agreed13:49
hazamonzoKodi is up and running on Xubuntu. Im going to see if I can get it to autostart when Xubuntu boots. If not them im going to have to quickly teach my partner how to use linux :s13:50
hateballClick a thing, things happen. What else is there to know?13:51
BluesKajone click instead of two :-)13:53
hazamonzo:)13:57
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knifeworkcan anyone explain how to update qt?14:21
ikoniaupdate it to what ?14:21
ikoniafrom what14:21
knifeworknotepadqq is asking me to update from 5.2 to >5.314:22
acheronukyou would most likey need to download an updated standalone Qt from qt.io, and then alter some config file to get the application to use that instead14:31
knifeworkthank you14:37
bulgakobotHi, is anyone online right now?14:41
BluesKaj-pibulgakobot, yes, just ask your question14:44
ranuI know that this problem is not totally related to Kubuntu but it seems that I can't add a ppa. Can anyone try to add this ppa: https://launchpad.net/~kivy-team/+archive/ubuntu/kivy ? It failts to receive the gpg key from hkp server keyserver.ubuntu.com with a timed out response15:37
acheronukranu: was fine here15:39
ranuacheronuk: So the problem is here15:41
ranuDon't know why is ocurring though15:41
ranuwhy or what*415:41
ranuacheronuk: can you give me any tip on what may be causing problem?15:42
ranuGonna be afk now, 'til later15:43
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wxllooking for something kinda obscure: the command to focus a window. not with the gui, but the actually command line command.15:55
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youchanyone know a good guide for upgrading 14.04 to 16.04?17:09
BluesKajyouch, yes ,  first make sure you have LTS only turned on in the update manager, then  sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade, then sudo do-release-upgrade , in the terminal17:13
BluesKajyouch, also disable any ppas you may have in your sources17:15
youchBluesKaj: perfect, thank you. im also curious, will a full-upgrade bring me up to kernel 4.x? currently on 3.417:17
ahoneybunBluesKaj: LTS only updates should be there17:18
ahoneybunthe kernel should move to 4.1/4.2 I think17:18
ahoneybun!info linux-kernel xenial17:18
ubottuPackage linux-kernel does not exist in xenial17:18
youch!info linux-kernel-image xenial17:19
ubottuPackage linux-kernel-image does not exist in xenial17:19
BluesKajyouch, yes it will move the kerb=nel version up to 4.417:19
ahoneybunit's a different name17:19
BluesKajkernel17:19
youchah gotcha17:19
BluesKajuiname -a will tell your current version17:20
BluesKajuname -a17:20
BluesKajmy phat phingers mucking things up again17:21
youchlol17:21
ahoneybunso xenial is at 4.4.0-2217:22
BluesKajahoneybun, after all upgrades mine is at 4.4.0-3417:22
ahoneybunwell that's what packages.ubuntu.com says17:23
ahoneybunmm17:23
ahoneybunyour right17:23
ahoneybunthere are a few older images17:23
ahoneybunfor the ISO's most likelu17:23
ahoneybun*likely17:23
BluesKajyeah, there are lot of upgrades even after a net OS install/upgrade , thain I had about 240 upgrades after the net  install was done17:25
BluesKajI think17:25
BluesKaj:-)17:26
BluesKajmy memeory ain't the greatest17:26
ahoneybunthere are17:29
ahoneybuneven with the point releases17:30
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depptrapdoes sb know why Amarok has ~500MB ram usage ?21:06
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syltaodepptrap : here 270MO RAM + 100Mo swap and amarok using mysql. No idea why so large. Images in RAM ?21:27
syltaoAmarok is also a quick «specific» file manager. This use many RAM.21:29
ranusyltao: I had problems with MySQL consuming a large piece of RAM but it seems from my research that it is "normal".21:34
zaggynlHi, is there recommended way of installing amdgpu-pro drivers? through a ppa or deb from amd.com?21:55
geniizaggynl: http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDGPU-PRO-Install.aspx22:05
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