[02:52] <claycorn> greetings
[03:39] <ethang> has anybody else tried to install oracle db on the new distribution?
[03:50] <mgs3k> Hi, is anyone online?
[03:52] <ndjaba> Hi
[04:52] <Traian74> i  have installed kubuntu 16.10.1 and i have no sound when i try to play media ...
[04:52] <Traian74> what could be the problem?
[05:00] <valorie> pff
[05:11] <user|51225> i would like to use kubuntu by removing w7; is their any option for running any software in kubuntu that works on w7
[05:14] <valorie> yes, wine
[05:14] <valorie> !wine
[05:15] <valorie> user|51225: there are lots of great native applications
[05:17] <user|51225> thanks valorie
[05:17] <user|51225> thanks ubottu
[05:18] <valorie> user|51225: if you say what you need, we may be able to find a native application that will work for you
[05:18] <valorie> when I switched, which was very long ago, I had a few favorites I wanted to keep
[05:19] <valorie> but ended up 100%
[05:19] <valorie> linux
[05:22] <liuhongwei> 这是什么软件
[05:23] <valorie> !cn | liuhongwei
[05:23] <valorie> !cn | liuhongwei
[05:23] <liuhongwei>  /join #ubuntu-cn
[08:14] <platz02> invite platz07
[08:15] <valorie> platz02: IRC commands all start with a / as the first character on a line
[09:54] <knifework> hello
[09:55] <knifework> anyone here?
[09:59] <rovap> Hello knifework
[09:59] <yetanothercouchs> knifework: hi
[09:59] <knifework> hello, rovap
[10:00] <knifework> can anyone direct me to a place where I can get some linux help. I am in a bit of a bind.
[10:00] <rovap> knifework: do you have a kubuntu related question?
[10:00] <rovap> Yes that is here
[10:00] <rovap> :)
[10:00] <knifework> shew
[10:00] <rovap> Or possibly, depends on your distor
[10:00] <rovap> Distro**
[10:01] <knifework> Ok, so I just started my semseter and my laptop died. I have a chromebook, but I needed to be able to run packet tracer, so I installed Linux on it. I have never used it before.
[10:01] <knifework> I have KDE via crouton
[10:01] <knifework> I can't figure out how to install packet tracer
[10:07] <rovap> Hmm do you know how to get to a Linux she'll?
[10:07] <rovap> Shell**
[10:08] <knifework> apologies, but I am super noob. I may get terminologies confused. Do you mean the terminal?
[10:08] <rovap> Yes I do, my fault
[10:09] <knifework> no, no. I actually installed the program, but I must have done so incorrectly. When I type packettracer in the terminal it doesn't start up. it says something about the core dumping and aborts
[10:10] <knifework> the program files are in the opt folder, though.
[10:10] <rovap> Hmm what method did you use to install packet tracer?
[10:11] <knifework> I had to download it from netacad.com. i extracted it it, and then typed ./install into the terminal
[10:12] <rovap> Hmm :/
[10:12] <rovap> I don't have access to a computer right now
[10:13] <rovap> Maybe someone else can help you
[10:13] <knifework> is there a command to uninstall programs?
[10:13] <rovap> Depends on how you installed them
[10:13] <rovap> If you check the directory where you ran the ./install
[10:14] <rovap> For something along the lines of uninstall
[10:14] <rovap> Or remove
[10:15] <knifework> this will sound weird, but I tried to delete the files from my downloads folder, and it wld not allow me to move a jpg file inside of them to the trash
[10:15] <knifework> so it is stuck in my download folder now
[10:20] <knifework> what does it mean that Packet Tracer is showing up in the "lost and found" applications?
[10:21] <Vroap> knifework: That is extreamly strange
[10:21] <Vroap> Let me do some research
[10:22] <Vroap> knifework: Files that appear in lost+found are typically files that were already unlinked (i.e. their name had been erased) but still opened by some process (so the data wasn't erased yet)
[10:23] <Vroap> knifework: Check the output of the command ftop
[10:23] <Vroap> For clarification: what you see when you run the command
[10:23] <Vroap> ftop
[10:24] <knifework> I just discovered that I can right click on packet tracer and click uninstall. But when I do that, it says "the files which should be removed are not part of any installed software"
[10:24] <Vroap> Hm
[10:24] <Vroap> Hmm
[10:24] <Vroap> Where are you rightclicking?
[10:24] <Vroap> In a file manager such as dolphin?
[10:24] <knifework> on the program in the "start" menu. I am not sure what it is called here
[10:25] <Vroap> ooh
[10:25] <Vroap> Okay :/
[10:25] <knifework> ftop command is not found
[10:25] <Vroap> Try top
[10:25] <Vroap> What come up when you type top
[10:25] <knifework> a lot of stuff :P
[10:25] <Vroap> :P
[10:25] <Vroap> can you see a name related to packet tracer
[10:26] <knifework> no, I see nothing related
[10:26] <Vroap> Hmm
[10:26] <Vroap> That is strange :/
[10:26] <Vroap> I don
[10:26] <Vroap> I don't think that I can help you here
[10:26] <Vroap> Maybe someone else :/
[10:27] <knifework> the packet tracer files that are in the opt folder...should I try to delete them?
[10:27] <knifework> and reinstall maybe?
[10:27] <Vroap> Are you sure that is the only place where they are?
[10:27] <Vroap> Check your /etc
[10:27] <knifework> I honestly have no idea
[10:27] <Vroap> There might be config files ther
[10:27] <Vroap> e
[10:28] <Vroap> Try just running the installer again
[10:28] <Vroap> Might replace things that have gone missing or other stuff
[10:28] <knifework> not seeing anything in /etc
[10:29] <knifework> related to PT, that is
[10:29] <Vroap> Hmm :/
[10:31] <knifework> ok, so I just downloaded a fresh tar.gz file of PT
[10:31] <Vroap> Yes!
[10:31] <Vroap> Okay
[10:31] <Vroap> Extract it
[10:31] <knifework> to install it properly, what should I do?
[10:32] <knifework> to anywhere?
[10:32] <Vroap> To anywhere that you have access to
[10:32] <Vroap> Like your home directory
[10:32] <knifework> I extracted it to /Downloads
[10:33] <Vroap> Okay
[10:33] <Vroap> Cd into the extracted PT
[10:33] <Vroap> And then tell me what files are in there
[10:33] <knifework> what does Cd mean?
[10:34] <Vroap> Change directory
[10:34] <knifework> sorry
[10:34] <Vroap> No worries
[10:34] <Vroap> og
[10:34] <Vroap> oh**
[10:34] <knifework> how do I Cd something
[10:34] <Vroap> You aren't working from a tty
[10:34] <Vroap> ?
[10:34] <Vroap> Open the terminal
[10:34] <Vroap> We are going to do everything from the terminal
[10:34] <knifework> I was in dolphin. Ok, terminal open
[10:34] <Vroap> Awesome
[10:34] <Vroap> Type ls
[10:35] <Vroap> This is all the directories that are in the folder you are in
[10:35] <Vroap> You can see the path to the folder next to where you type in your text
[10:35] <Vroap> Then type cd Downloads
[10:35] <Fritigern> TIP: Whilst in Dolphin, press F4 to open the terminal pane
[10:35] <Vroap> Ooh
[10:35] <Vroap> Right
[10:35] <Vroap> Thanks Fritigern
[10:36]  * Fritigern tends to forget that trick too.
[10:36] <Vroap> knifework: Open a dolphin window
[10:36] <knifework> when I typed cd downloads, I got "No such file or directory"
[10:37] <Vroap> Give me the output of pwd
[10:37] <Vroap> Actually no
[10:37] <Vroap> Go to dolphin
[10:37] <Vroap> And then press
[10:37] <Vroap> f4
[10:37] <knifework> done
[10:37] <Vroap> Okay
[10:38] <Vroap> Now when you click on directories you can see that the terminal window inside of dolphin is changing
[10:38] <knifework> yes
[10:38] <Vroap> Okay so go into your downloads folder by clicking on it in dolphin
[10:39] <Vroap> God damn it
[10:39] <Vroap> I need to go :O
[10:39] <Vroap> I am sorry
[10:39] <Vroap> My teacher is forcing me
[10:39] <knifework> that's ok. thanks so much
[10:39] <Vroap> No problem
[10:39] <Vroap> If you are still having problems when I get home I might be able to help you
[10:39] <Vroap> Byy
[10:56] <hateball> knifework: Linux is case sensitive, Downloads and downloads are not the same
[10:56] <hateball> knifework: also, crouton installs are a bit different to a vanilla *ubuntu
[10:57] <knifework> Ah, ty. I was keeping the case correct
[11:16] <knifework> does anyone know what this means? /usr/local/bin/packettracer: line 8:  9951 Aborted                 (core dumped) ./PacketTracer7 "$@" > /dev/null 2>&1
[11:16] <hateball> knifework: You're using a Cisco application not packaged with Kubuntu, so this is not really the place for support
[11:17] <hateball> that said, you can run the app with gdb and see why it segfaults
[11:17] <hateball> check dependencies with ldd
[11:18] <knifework> oh. do you happen to know where I might look? I thought I was using kubuntu
[11:18] <hateball> knifework: Yes, but the application you've grabbed off a website is not packaged and in the ubuntu repos, and as such not supported
[11:19] <hateball> So it's hard, impossible even, for anyone to help you troubleshoot since we dont have access to the software
[11:19] <knifework> I see. Sorry. I've never ran linux before. I am probably over my head. My laptop just died, so I was trying to make Package Tracer work on my chromebook for the short term.
[11:20] <hateball> knifework: Nothing to be sorry about, I am just telling you what to expect :)
[11:22] <hateball> knifework: a quick google brings up https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=176035
[11:22] <hateball> knifework: so perhaps their app is poorly packaged, who knows
[11:24] <hateball> knifework: and as I said, you can run "ldd /path/to/binary" to see if it expects some libs you dont have installed
[11:25] <knifework> just type that in terminal?
[11:25] <knifework> I feel like an idiot :P
[11:27] <hateball> knifework: yes
[11:28] <hateball> knifework: except that in your case /usr/local/bin/packettracer seems to be a script that tries to launch the real binary from elsewhere, so you'll have to read and see what it intends to do
[11:29] <hateball> knifework: So, contacting the vendor of this application is probably your best option
[11:30] <knifework> I will try that. Thanks very much.
[11:43] <hazamonzo> Hey folks. What the easiest way to create a bootable USB disk in Kubuntu?
[11:43] <hazamonzo> Is there a native tool or do i have to go looking for a third party one?
[11:44] <hateball> hazamonzo: there is a startup disk creator
[11:45] <hazamonzo> hateball: Whats the name of the app? :)
[11:45] <hateball> hazamonzo: alt+space (or alt+f2) to open krunner, search for startup
[11:45] <hateball> should give you suggestions
[11:45] <hateball> I dont recall the name
[11:46] <hazamonzo> hateball: I'll take a look. Thanks!
[11:46] <hateball> hmmm, maybe that is broken in 16.04 come to think of it
[11:47] <hateball> hazamonzo: if you have an iso you can simply use dd as well
[11:47] <hazamonzo> Yeah looks like its not there.
[11:47] <hazamonzo> It is an iso (kodi.iso) but im unaware of dd
[11:48] <hateball> hazamonzo: run usb-creator-kde in a terminal
[11:49] <hazamonzo> hateball: Just need to install it first
[11:49] <hateball> hazamonzo: otherwise using dd is quite simple
[11:49] <hateball> oh, hmm, it should be default iirc
[11:50] <hateball> ah no it is in universe, oh well
[11:50] <hazamonzo> :D
[11:50] <hateball> anyhow, dd would be "dd if=/path/to/file.iso of=/dev/sdX" where sdX is your removable device
[11:51] <hazamonzo> hateball: That simple eh?
[11:51] <hateball> one can add the option of bs=4m to speed things up also
[11:51] <hazamonzo> If i fail with usb-creater-kde then i'll give dd a shot
[11:52] <hateball> hazamonzo: but yes, it is that simple
[11:52] <hateball> hazamonzo: needs to be run with sudo tho, since you are writing straight to a device
[11:52] <hazamonzo> hateball: Understood
[11:52] <hazamonzo> Ominous... https://ibin.co/2s6HUo2GJvmi.png
[11:53] <hateball> hazamonzo: yes I had the same, it pops up some installing prompt that does nothing
[11:53] <hateball> seems it is broken in 16.04
[11:53] <hateball> as if you cancel, it closes the whole app
[11:53] <hazamonzo> hateball: Am i good to close it though? Its asking is im sure i want to abort the ... "installation"
[11:53] <hazamonzo> Ha! So it does!
[11:54] <hazamonzo> dd is it then!
[11:55] <hateball> be very careful to pick the right device so you dont overwrite your OS drive :)
[11:55] <hazamonzo> hateball: hahah. Don't say that! It was my next question.... how can i identify the USB stick?
[11:55] <hazamonzo> I have a fair amount of partititions on this thing
[11:56] <hateball> hazamonzo: a number of ways "sudo fdisk -l" should give you a hint
[11:56] <hateball> or remove the device and insert it anew, run "dmesg" directly after and it should tell you what it has been assigned
[11:57] <hazamonzo> hateball: Sounds good.
[11:57] <hateball> if you only have one drive with multiple partitions, that will be /dev/sda*
[11:57] <hateball> and the removable device will be /dev/sdb*
[11:58] <hazamonzo> Ahhh, i have two internal drives (HD, and SSD) so im guessing they will be sda and sdb
[11:58] <hateball> Yes
[11:58] <hazamonzo> I have a SDC so im guessing that the USB but i'll do the dmesg
[11:58] <hateball> remove the usb device and run fdisk to be sure
[11:58] <hazamonzo> Understood
[11:59] <hazamonzo> If i drop off IRC then you'll know i messed up :)
[11:59] <hateball> heh
[12:00] <hateball> so, assuming it is sdc, your command would be "sudo dd bs=4m if=/path/to/iso.iso of=/dev/sdc status=progress"
[12:00] <hateball> status=progress is optional, it just shows... progress :)
[12:00] <hazamonzo> Better to see progress than sitting in the dark!
[12:01] <hazamonzo> Okay... so without the USB disk mounted the command sudo fdisk -l | grep sdc returns nothing, with it mounted it return the disk with the correct size for the USB
[12:01] <hazamonzo> So i think im safe to say that sdc is the USB disk
[12:01] <hateball> yes
[12:02] <hazamonzo> (whew)
[12:02] <hateball> and as you are using dd to write to the device, not a partition, everything else on the drive will be gone
[12:02] <hazamonzo> Thats okay. Its empty anyhow
[12:02] <hateball> just in case you have partitioned it
[12:02] <hazamonzo> dd: invalid number: ‘4m’
[12:03] <hateball> hazamonzo: typo, 4M
[12:04] <hateball> anyhow it works without specifying block size as well, just goes faster if you do
[12:04] <hateball> hazamonzo: oh and after the command finishes succesfully, be sure to run "sync" to be sure everything is flushed to the disk
[12:05] <hazamonzo> I see
[12:06] <hazamonzo> Hmmm, odd command executed okay but no progress report. Just waiting on the terminal
[12:06] <hateball> hazamonzo: which kubuntu are you on?
[12:06] <hazamonzo> Maybe it didn't mount 100% correctly when i took it out and put it back in
[12:06] <hateball> hazamonzo: you shouldnt mount it at all
[12:06] <hateball> that is, if it has any partitions on it, do not mount them
[12:07] <hateball> just plug in the device
[12:07] <hazamonzo> hateball: 16.04
[12:07] <hateball> hmmm
[12:07] <hazamonzo> Okay. I didn't mount it anyhow so it had the little unmounted pause icon in Dolphin
[12:07] <hazamonzo> Oh here you go!
[12:07] <hazamonzo> 210+0 records in
[12:08] <hazamonzo> 210+0 records out
[12:08] <hazamonzo> 880803840 bytes (881 MB, 840 MiB) copied, 199.916 s, 4.4 MB/s
[12:08] <hazamonzo> Just no progress report during
[12:08] <hateball> weird
[12:08] <hateball> maybe the option needs to go before the if/of
[12:08] <hateball> I dont recall
[12:08] <hazamonzo> No worries
[12:09] <hateball> anyhow, run "sync" to be sure it is flushed
[12:09] <hazamonzo> run it from anywhere?
[12:09] <hateball> yes
[12:09] <hazamonzo> Okay done
[12:10] <hazamonzo> am I able to mount the dusk now to check files were copied?
[12:10] <hateball> hazamonzo: should be
[12:10] <hazamonzo> *disk
[12:10] <hazamonzo> Hmm http://pastebin.com/bCS12csV
[12:10] <hazamonzo> Any thoughts on this one? :)
[12:11] <hazamonzo> Didn't want to flood the channel
[12:12] <hazamonzo> dmesg is saying "EXT4-fs (sdc1): VFS: Can't find ext4 filesystem"
[12:12] <hateball> hazamonzo: do you know if the iso you use is not corrupted?
[12:12] <hazamonzo> hateball: Just downloaded it from the website so im assuming its okay
[12:12] <hateball> heh
[12:12] <hazamonzo> I cna always try and stick a different iso on it to be sure though
[12:12] <hateball> yeah, try that
[12:13] <hazamonzo> is it a problem that the USB stick was fat32 in the first place?
[12:13] <hateball> or loop-mount the iso
[12:13] <hateball> hazamonzo: nah, when you dd it overwrites everything
[12:13] <hateball> well, the MBR
[12:13] <hazamonzo> Interesting
[12:13] <hazamonzo> I'll try and write the xubuntu.iso to it
[12:14] <hateball> hazamonzo: you can try just mounting the iso and see if it can be read. or open it with ark or something
[12:14] <hateball> to make sure it isnt corrupted
[12:14] <hazamonzo> Good thinking
[12:14] <hateball> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaand you can try using dd without the bs parameter
[12:15] <hazamonzo> okay. I'll give all these options a try. Looks like the kodi iso opens up okay in ark
[12:15] <hazamonzo> I'll try xubuntu first, then i'll try without the bs option
[12:16] <hazamonzo> hateball: By the way you were right about the status=progress needing to come before the if/of
[12:16] <hateball> :)
[12:17] <hateball> typing things from memory isnt always reliable
[12:17] <hazamonzo> hateball: I appreciate the help by the way. Im a little out of my depth with this kind of stuff
[12:17] <hazamonzo> hateball: being able to recall this stuff from memory in the first place is pretty impressive
[12:17] <hateball> hazamonzo: no worries, it's quite easy once you've done it once or twice
[12:18] <hazamonzo> hateball: I think thats the issue. Im alright with "using" linux for my day to day but when it comes to fixing issues or doing things outside of my normal day job like this... i struggle
[12:19] <hateball> knowing how to google is half the battle :p
[12:19] <hazamonzo> hateball: However, if you find you need help with any data anlytics or what not then feel free to give me a shout!
[12:19] <hateball> :D
[12:20] <hazamonzo> hateball: Oh sure, if you can't google in this business you're doomed. At least when you google a linux issue you get pretty straight forward answer. I dread having to google a windows issue and seeing the replies like "turn it off and on again!"
[12:21] <hateball> So it goes
[12:21] <hazamonzo> Interesting, xubuntu wrote correctly
[12:22] <hazamonzo> I'll try kodi again
[12:33] <hazamonzo> hateball: Looks like the second attempt of create a bootable kodi disk work. I appreciate all the help. I've made notes :)
[12:33] <hazamonzo> Thanks
[12:35] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:35] <hazamonzo> Hi BluesKaj
[12:35] <BluesKaj> Hi hazamonzo
[13:15] <hateball> hazamonzo: good !
[13:18] <hazamonzo> hateball: Thanks! Now im battling the kodi install with no network or suitable graphics drivers! Hurrah!
[13:24] <BluesKaj> hazamonzo, then there's no point trying kodi without those drivers
[13:25] <hazamonzo> BluesKaj: Ahh are you familiar with Kodi then?
[13:25] <hateball> hazamonzo: why are you not just running Kodi on your kubuntu install?
[13:26] <BluesKaj> yes, to some degree, I use the internet tv part ...
[13:27] <BluesKaj>  I prefer vlc for everything else media-wise
[13:28] <hazamonzo> hateball: Well I have recently purchased a nuc you see? :)
[13:29] <hazamonzo> So i was hoping to create a dedicated kodi machine using kodibuntu
[13:29] <hazamonzo> My Kubuntu is my work laptop
[13:29] <BluesKaj> hazamonzo, maybe a raspberry pi would suit you better for media use with kodi
[13:29] <hazamonzo> BluesKaj: Could be!
[13:30] <hazamonzo> See the odd thing about the kodi install... is that the second install screen where you can choose to download updates ect while installing, says there is not network connection (and this is connected on ethernet)
[13:30] <hazamonzo> Xubuntu (which im testing now) says there is a network connection for updates during installation
[13:30] <hazamonzo> I was hoping that if kodi had a network connection during installation it might be able to get these openGL drivers also
[13:31] <hazamonzo> Funday Friday1
[13:31] <hazamonzo> I guess if all else fails then i'll just install kodo on top of Xubuntu
[13:31] <BluesKaj> no hazamonzo, kodi doesn't install drivers , you need to use apt or the package manager for that
[13:32] <hazamonzo> BluesKaj: I was thinking that but..... when i get to the login screen kogi complains about the openGL drivers and thats fine
[13:32] <hazamonzo> I nip out into a teminal using ctrl alt F1
[13:32] <hazamonzo> and still not network connection
[13:32] <hazamonzo> So im kinda stuck when it comes to instlling any drivers
[13:32] <BluesKaj> I have kodi installed on kubuntu 16.04 as an ordinary package like all others
[13:33] <BluesKaj> works fine
[13:33] <hazamonzo> BluesKaj: Im thinking of going that route now but using Xubuntu instead as its pretty lightweight
[13:33] <hazamonzo> Like i said before, I was hoping to use the packaged kodibuntu though
[13:33] <BluesKaj> yes hazamonzo that would work
[13:34] <hazamonzo> :)
[13:35] <BluesKaj> hazamonzo, I've tried those all in one media OSs and so far they all fail to live up to the promises
[13:35] <BluesKaj> kodibuntu included in that list
[13:35] <hateball> hazamonzo: I use raspbmc (outdated) on my RPi, but if you have a recent NUC I fail to see the reason for a dedicated kodi distro
[13:36] <hateball> hazamonzo: the overhead is neglible
[13:36] <hateball> I'd just install a regular *ubuntu and run kodi. less headache and easier troubleshooting
[13:37] <BluesKaj> rpi3 is the best way to go with the raspbian OS, in my experience
[13:38] <BluesKaj> it even comes with a wfi that works outy of the box , so no need for ethernet cables
[13:41] <BluesKaj> hazamonzo, and hateball has a good point as well, so you have a couple of options
[13:49] <hazamonzo> BluesKaj: hateball: Agreed
[13:50] <hazamonzo> Kodi is up and running on Xubuntu. Im going to see if I can get it to autostart when Xubuntu boots. If not them im going to have to quickly teach my partner how to use linux :s
[13:51] <hateball> Click a thing, things happen. What else is there to know?
[13:53] <BluesKaj> one click instead of two :-)
[13:57] <hazamonzo> :)
[14:21] <knifework> can anyone explain how to update qt?
[14:21] <ikonia> update it to what ?
[14:21] <ikonia> from what
[14:22] <knifework> notepadqq is asking me to update from 5.2 to >5.3
[14:31] <acheronuk> you would most likey need to download an updated standalone Qt from qt.io, and then alter some config file to get the application to use that instead
[14:37] <knifework> thank you
[14:41] <bulgakobot> Hi, is anyone online right now?
[14:44] <BluesKaj-pi> bulgakobot, yes, just ask your question
[15:37] <ranu> I know that this problem is not totally related to Kubuntu but it seems that I can't add a ppa. Can anyone try to add this ppa: https://launchpad.net/~kivy-team/+archive/ubuntu/kivy ? It failts to receive the gpg key from hkp server keyserver.ubuntu.com with a timed out response
[15:39] <acheronuk> ranu: was fine here
[15:41] <ranu> acheronuk: So the problem is here
[15:41] <ranu> Don't know why is ocurring though
[15:41] <ranu> why or what*4
[15:42] <ranu> acheronuk: can you give me any tip on what may be causing problem?
[15:43] <ranu> Gonna be afk now, 'til later
[15:55] <wxl> looking for something kinda obscure: the command to focus a window. not with the gui, but the actually command line command.
[17:09] <youch> anyone know a good guide for upgrading 14.04 to 16.04?
[17:13] <BluesKaj> youch, yes ,  first make sure you have LTS only turned on in the update manager, then  sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade, then sudo do-release-upgrade , in the terminal
[17:15] <BluesKaj> youch, also disable any ppas you may have in your sources
[17:17] <youch> BluesKaj: perfect, thank you. im also curious, will a full-upgrade bring me up to kernel 4.x? currently on 3.4
[17:18] <ahoneybun> BluesKaj: LTS only updates should be there
[17:18] <ahoneybun> the kernel should move to 4.1/4.2 I think
[17:18] <ahoneybun> !info linux-kernel xenial
[17:19] <youch> !info linux-kernel-image xenial
[17:19] <BluesKaj> youch, yes it will move the kerb=nel version up to 4.4
[17:19] <ahoneybun> it's a different name
[17:19] <BluesKaj> kernel
[17:19] <youch> ah gotcha
[17:20] <BluesKaj> uiname -a will tell your current version
[17:20] <BluesKaj> uname -a
[17:21] <BluesKaj> my phat phingers mucking things up again
[17:21] <youch> lol
[17:22] <ahoneybun> so xenial is at 4.4.0-22
[17:22] <BluesKaj> ahoneybun, after all upgrades mine is at 4.4.0-34
[17:23] <ahoneybun> well that's what packages.ubuntu.com says
[17:23] <ahoneybun> mm
[17:23] <ahoneybun> your right
[17:23] <ahoneybun> there are a few older images
[17:23] <ahoneybun> for the ISO's most likelu
[17:23] <ahoneybun> *likely
[17:25] <BluesKaj> yeah, there are lot of upgrades even after a net OS install/upgrade , thain I had about 240 upgrades after the net  install was done
[17:25] <BluesKaj> I think
[17:26] <BluesKaj> :-)
[17:26] <BluesKaj> my memeory ain't the greatest
[17:29] <ahoneybun> there are
[17:30] <ahoneybun> even with the point releases
[21:06] <depptrap> does sb know why Amarok has ~500MB ram usage ?
[21:27] <syltao> depptrap : here 270MO RAM + 100Mo swap and amarok using mysql. No idea why so large. Images in RAM ?
[21:29] <syltao> Amarok is also a quick «specific» file manager. This use many RAM.
[21:34] <ranu> syltao: I had problems with MySQL consuming a large piece of RAM but it seems from my research that it is "normal".
[21:55] <zaggynl> Hi, is there recommended way of installing amdgpu-pro drivers? through a ppa or deb from amd.com?
[22:05] <genii> zaggynl: http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDGPU-PRO-Install.aspx