| hikiko | hi | 04:34 |
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| pitti | Good morning | 05:14 |
| ricotz | Sweet5hark1, hi, while you are not pushing your packaging changes and therefore I can't push mine, here is a serious problem I ran into https://paste.debian.net/plain/790383 (this rogue comment breaks this command) | 06:30 |
| willcooke | morning all | 07:56 |
| willcooke | Sweet5hark1, thanks for the LO FTBFS reports. Sounds like you're having fun ;) | 07:57 |
| Sweet5hark1 | moin | 07:57 |
| Sweet5hark1 | willcooke: yes. see ricotz1 comment from 1:30 hours ago though. It _might_ be LibreOffice itself still after all. At least there is a glimmer of hope for that. | 07:59 |
| * Sweet5hark1 tests that right now. | 07:59 | |
| Laney | morrrrrrrrrrrrrrning | 08:02 |
| Sweet5hark1 | Laney: heya! | 08:03 |
| Laney | hey Sweet5hark1 | 08:04 |
| Laney | did you win yet? | 08:04 |
| Laney | Trevinho: I didn't see it before - try trunk? | 08:04 |
| Sweet5hark1 | Laney: against the buildds? not yet, but ricotz is giving me hope ... | 08:05 |
| Laney | hehe | 08:05 |
| Laney | how are you? | 08:05 |
| seb128 | hey willcooke Sweet5hark1 Laney | 08:06 |
| willcooke | hey seb128 Laney | 08:06 |
| Laney | hi willcooke et seb128 | 08:06 |
| Laney | how's it going? | 08:06 |
| Laney | happy friday too | 08:07 |
| Laney | it is raining! | 08:07 |
| willcooke | The rain is here | 08:07 |
| willcooke | :D:D | 08:07 |
| Sweet5hark1 | Laney: and ricotz scares me a bit: the thing should have broken the build ~always AFAICS, but for some reason it worked. And that stuff is in there for _two years_ already. | 08:07 |
| Sweet5hark1 | seb128: heya ... | 08:07 |
| willcooke | Golf competition tomorrow and it's forecast for 45 mph winds | 08:07 |
| willcooke | yay | 08:07 |
| Laney | hope you are good at compensating | 08:08 |
| Laney | also | 08:08 |
| Laney | #managerstereotypes | 08:08 |
| willcooke | lol | 08:08 |
| seb128 | it's not raining here yet but they forecast rain starting in the afternoon, which is unfortunate I was supposed to play after work :-/ | 08:08 |
| Sweet5hark1 | Laney, willcooke: hah, good of you to take the rain for a few days. Here it was a miserable summer the last weeks, but now its better (because you took the rain for a few days, I guess). | 08:09 |
| Laney | it was our turn | 08:09 |
| willcooke | I think we're getting all our rain for the rest of the year in the next 24 hours | 08:09 |
| Laney | i'm happy actually | 08:09 |
| pitti | hey Laney, good morning! | 08:10 |
| pitti | hello willcooke | 08:10 |
| Laney | the water butt outside is empty | 08:10 |
| pitti | bonjour seb128 ! | 08:10 |
| pitti | finally, some life here :) | 08:10 |
| Laney | AND i don't have to go to the allotment to water it | 08:10 |
| Laney | hey pitti! | 08:10 |
| seb128 | yeah, like it's not going to rain between august and decembre in u.k, riiiiight | 08:10 |
| seb128 | rrrright | 08:10 |
| seb128 | rather ;-) | 08:10 |
| seb128 | salut pitti! comment ça va ? | 08:10 |
| davmor2 | willcooke: just drive the vw in a straight line you'll be fine it's small enough not to be affected by the wind.......what do you mean not that Golf there a game too | 08:11 |
| seb128 | pitti, I'm up for a while, just doing quiet email catchups&co until u.k wakes up and IRC starts being active ;-) | 08:11 |
| pitti | seb128: j'ai encore une rhume, mais ça va, merci | 08:11 |
| seb128 | oh :-( | 08:11 |
| seb128 | repose toi bien ! | 08:11 |
| Sweet5hark1 | oh, nous entre l'heure du petit dejeuner francais! | 08:12 |
| Sweet5hark1 | ^^ imagine that with a bad german accent in addition to the broken grammar. | 08:13 |
| pitti | non, c'est trop tard -- mais bien sûr c'est toujours l'heure de la glace :-P | 08:13 |
| pitti | I just submitted a talk proposal for FOSDEM | 08:14 |
| pitti | missed the deadline the last three years, so 2017 it is! | 08:14 |
| willcooke | davmor2, :)) | 08:14 |
| Laney | oh wow, this is early | 08:15 |
| Sweet5hark1 | all btw: let me repost https://twitter.com/maemst/status/766334568941096960 here because it is such awesome good news. | 08:15 |
| pitti | Laney: CfP ends in October, so still time; but I don't want to miss it again :) | 08:15 |
| pitti | Sweet5hark1: PoC ≠ Proof of Concept in this case, I figure? | 08:16 |
| Sweet5hark1 | I mean 863K CHF is some good funding. On can actually solve quite some problems with that amount of money. | 08:17 |
| pitti | Sweet5hark1: this is a good day to die! err, "to deploy FOSS"! | 08:17 |
| Sweet5hark1 | pitti: I think PoC is proof of concept here. so they actually might add more funds later. | 08:18 |
| Sweet5hark1 | pitti: OTOH they are not commiting to migrating to LibreOffice/Linux with that yet. Just to spend up to 863K CHF to find out if that is workable. IMHO thats good: Its a serious budget and it doesnt say "with this budget you must be completely on FLOSS in the end or its a failure". Just with this budget you must be able to tell us if we should move to FLOSS in the end. | 08:21 |
| Trevinho | Laney: I would try trunk... Let me see | 08:22 |
| Trevinho | Morning by the way | 08:23 |
| seb128 | hey Trevinho! | 08:23 |
| pitti | Sweet5hark1: that sounds workable indeed -- I suppose they want the answer in about a year, so this is like 8 well-paid full-time jobs for a year | 08:23 |
| pitti | well, "normally paid" for .ch :) | 08:23 |
| * Sweet5hark1 is willing to tell a lot of folks they should move to FLOSS for 863K CHF. | 08:23 | |
| Sweet5hark1 | pitti: yep | 08:23 |
| Trevinho | seb128: hey, how is it? | 08:24 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, good! you? | 08:24 |
| Trevinho | seb128: yeah, allright... Although waking up at 5 to watch the beach volley final wasn't a great choice unfortunately :-( | 08:25 |
| seb128 | oh, why, feeling too tired now? or was the match not good? | 08:26 |
| Trevinho | No, we've lost it 😢 | 08:26 |
| Laney | Trevinho: pretty sure you want https://github.com/hughsie/appstream-glib/commit/1feb3abbe56661d83ee798d9ad98e49cfd525267 | 08:27 |
| Laney | Trevinho: and hi! | 08:29 |
| Trevinho | Laney: yep, that's the one... Can you backport it? | 08:29 |
| Trevinho | Laney: Yes... Ciao!! ;-) | 08:29 |
| ricotz | Sweet5hark1, I doubt this will fix the build failure on yakkety, it is a more subtile break where the envars before the comment as really needed | 10:45 |
| ricotz | Sweet5hark1, did you got complaints about the removal of systray-support aka quickstart (gtk2 only)? | 11:21 |
| Sweet5hark1 | ricotz: wrt quickstart: nope. isnt visible on Unity desktops anyway ... | 11:29 |
| desrt | hihi | 11:33 |
| desrt | and good morning to all | 11:33 |
| Laney | hi de$rt | 11:35 |
| desrt | how did you know that i sold myself to microsoft? | 11:36 |
| Laney | i was thinking ke$ha | 11:36 |
| Laney | but that works too | 11:36 |
| Laney | how's it going? | 11:37 |
| willcooke | morning desrt | 11:39 |
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| desrt | hello willcooke | 11:42 |
| ricotz | Sweet5hark1, ok, rene disabled/dropped it with 5.2 | 11:47 |
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| seb128 | hey desrt | 12:07 |
| desrt | hello seb | 12:07 |
| Laney | Trevinho: you can try your unity build again | 12:11 |
| Guest53425 | hi, I need some help with a drive mounting problem, my external hard drive is now mounted with both HDDname and HDDname1 and if I try to open the original it says permission denied | 12:32 |
| Guest53425 | I have some seeding torrents that have paths that point to the HDDname (original) drive, so how could I fix that without having to go through each torrent and manually changing path? | 12:33 |
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| Trevinho | Laney: thanks, it seems to go now | 13:26 |
| seb128 | good for some exercice but the rain starts, bbiab | 13:34 |
| Laney | Trevinho: nice | 13:41 |
| ximion | Laney: you *think* you build Unity in Ubuntu? | 13:58 |
| ximion | how can you not know what you build? :D | 13:58 |
| Laney | I didn't build it | 13:58 |
| Laney | Trevinho just told me about it | 13:58 |
| Laney | (hi!) | 13:58 |
| ximion | :D | 13:58 |
| ximion | for some reason hughsie and I simultaneaously decided to throw out bad releases of AppStream :P | 13:59 |
| ximion | (although I am leading in bug-count right now) | 13:59 |
| ximion | (yay! :P) | 14:00 |
| Laney | heh | 14:00 |
| jibel | cyphermox, can you have a look at bug 1611010, very frequent | 14:02 |
| ubot5 | bug 1611010 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "yakkety desktop - non-english installation crashes with /plugininstall.py: ValueError: invalid literal for int() with base 10: ''" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1611010 | 14:02 |
| cyphermox | jibel: yeah, already aware of it, but it's a complicated issue | 14:04 |
| ximion | Laney: can't look at NMUs right now, because of $travel, but will do that later | 14:05 |
| Laney | ximion: can reschedule if you want | 14:05 |
| Laney | where are you $travelling to? | 14:06 |
| ximion | to some friends in Bonn (who are visiting the gamescom in Cologne) and then to my parents | 14:06 |
| Laney | fun | 14:07 |
| ximion | reschedule might be useful, I would like to have the changes in Git so Git and what's in unstable don't differ | 14:07 |
| Laney | one of my school friends is posting pictures from the gamescom | 14:07 |
| ximion | but actually, we could also just let it in and I will import it into Git later | 14:08 |
| Laney | k, well I attached the git patch to the bug | 14:08 |
| Laney | unless you have the ACLs on pkg-packagekit set up sensibly (i.e. so DDs can push) :) | 14:08 |
| ximion | I don't think that's the case | 14:08 |
| * ximion didn't even create the team | 14:08 | |
| Laney | seems not | 14:08 |
| * Laney runs dcut ftp-master reschedule -f appstream-glib_0.6.1-1.1_source.changes -d 0 | 14:10 | |
| Laney | trying to think how to do this langpack thing in a sensible way btw | 14:11 |
| Laney | currently thinking of some kind of hook facility | 14:11 |
| Laney | so backends can add their sauce | 14:11 |
| ximion | yeah, that is probably the best way to do it | 14:21 |
| Laney | I wonder how to do it though | 14:31 |
| Laney | without having to keep lots of things in memory | 14:31 |
| willcooke | argh | 14:54 |
| willcooke | this -gtk-scaled thing is horrible | 14:54 |
| willcooke | I'm going word blind | 14:54 |
| willcooke | Laney, should I use -gtk-scaled in places like this as well? | 14:57 |
| willcooke | border-image: url("assets/backdrop-combobox-button.png") 10 12 10 1 / 10px 12px 10px 1px stretch; | 14:57 |
| Laney | willcooke: I think you only need it when there's an @2 | 15:08 |
| Laney | but haven't used it myself, so can't be sure | 15:08 |
| willcooke | right, there is a @2 for that one, but just not sure how to put it togther in that example | 15:08 |
| willcooke | would it be something like: | 15:08 |
| willcooke | -gtk-scaled(url("blah",url("blah@2")) 10 12 10 1 / etc | 15:09 |
| willcooke | also: is there some kind of checker I can run over these new files, I've gone copy & paste blind and might have missed a few commas etc | 15:10 |
| Laney | hmm, not sure, probably | 15:10 |
| Laney | gtk should tell you if there's a syntax error | 15:10 |
| Laney | if you launch something | 15:10 |
| Laney | willcooke: thanks for the effort, sorry it's so lame a task | 15:15 |
| willcooke | Laney, aint no thing. Happy to be contributing. It makes for a pleasant change away from slide decks and trello boards | 15:18 |
| willcooke | I'll give it a go anyway and can undo if it breaks | 15:19 |
| bschaefer | Trevinho, got a fun looking compiz bug for you | 15:42 |
| bschaefer | Trevinho, http://i.imgur.com/VSCQZq3.jpg | 15:42 |
| Trevinho | hey bschaefer | 15:43 |
| bschaefer | (offset/origin messed up?) Notice the screenshot rendering of the desktop is correct | 15:43 |
| bschaefer | Trevinho, also hello! | 15:43 |
| Trevinho | not that fun.. :-) | 15:43 |
| Trevinho | Mmhmh, hikiko ^ ? | 15:43 |
| bschaefer | Trevinho, it flashes a bunch | 15:43 |
| bschaefer | this was the first time it actually *stopped* | 15:43 |
| bschaefer | but it goes from okay to crazy offset/origins | 15:44 |
| bschaefer | Trevinho, i assume its late for her | 15:44 |
| Trevinho | bschaefer: yeah, it should be... but hopefully she'll see the log on monday | 15:44 |
| bschaefer | cool yeah | 15:44 |
| Trevinho | but... yeah, is eems some camera issue | 15:44 |
| Trevinho | bschaefer: how is input going? | 15:44 |
| bschaefer | Trevinho, doing gamma atm :) | 15:45 |
| bschaefer | Trevinho, unless i mis understood that question :) | 15:45 |
| Trevinho | bschaefer: no, I meant.... in your bug :) | 15:47 |
| bschaefer | Trevinho, haha input is fine | 15:47 |
| bschaefer | soo if drag the cursor | 15:47 |
| Trevinho | bschaefer: what you do when you press the corners, is the input respecting what you see or no? | 15:47 |
| bschaefer | it stops at the *bottom* of the perceived edge | 15:48 |
| bschaefer | Trevinho, the input behaves as if the rendering is the correct region (ie. if i move my cursor to the bottom of the hardware it goes to the top) | 15:49 |
| bschaefer | as if its still in the screen | 15:49 |
| bschaefer | Trevinho, ive had this happen with and with out workspaces | 15:49 |
| bschaefer | on yakkety | 15:49 |
| bschaefer | (two different intel machines) | 15:49 |
| Trevinho | bschaefer: is that happening always=? | 15:50 |
| Trevinho | I mean, do you have a way to reproduce it? | 15:50 |
| bschaefer | Trevinho, no it happens randomly sadly :( | 15:50 |
| Trevinho | a specific one... or just it happens? | 15:50 |
| Trevinho | mh | 15:50 |
| bschaefer | seems to happen when typing... | 15:50 |
| bschaefer | or opeing a menu | 15:50 |
| bschaefer | or switching workspaces (but doesnt need to have those for it) | 15:50 |
| * Trevinho after winning another battle with a new x11/gtk race, calls this a week... | 16:15 | |
| Trevinho | have a nice WE everyone | 16:15 |
| bschaefer | Trevinho, have a good weekend! | 16:15 |
| Trevinho | thanks bschaefer, you too | 16:15 |
| willcooke | cya Trevinho | 16:16 |
| willcooke | Ubiquity in Y has lost the right alignment of the "skip" box when copying files. | 16:27 |
| willcooke | Known issue? Maybe because of theme work? | 16:27 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, have a nice w.e! | 16:28 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, just being curious but what bug was that? | 16:28 |
| seb128 | willcooke, not know afaik and likely gtk/theming yes | 16:29 |
| seb128 | screenshot? | 16:29 |
| willcooke | seb128, it'll have to wait to next week now, up to my shoulders in hidpi copy & paste hell. :) | 16:31 |
| seb128 | good luck with that... and thanks for working on it! | 16:31 |
| willcooke | but basically, the "skip" box is now tagged on the end of the text and moves backwards and forwards as the string lengths change | 16:32 |
| willcooke | seb128, I'm winning on the theme. Just got some more 3.0 to do and then on to 3.2 | 16:32 |
| seb128 | I see what you mean, I wonder if that's really new | 16:32 |
| seb128 | :-) | 16:32 |
| willcooke | then I need to run it through a parser or something to find all the typos I made and fix them :) | 16:32 |
| seb128 | oh, Laney send the ff email, official now | 16:33 |
| seb128 | we should start making a list of things we didn't manage to land and might want | 16:33 |
| seb128 | like new gstreamer | 16:33 |
| seb128 | new gnome-software? | 16:33 |
| seb128 | superm1 hey, was there any discussion with robert_ancell about updating fwupd? I guess that blocked on updating g-s? we couldn't backport that work if we don't update g-s? | 16:34 |
| superm1 | seb128: i'm missing context here | 16:34 |
| seb128 | superm1, sorry, I'm mostly wondering why is "there is a fix upstream" for months but we don't get the version with the fix | 16:36 |
| superm1 | this in relation to xenial or yakkety? and to a particular issue to solve? | 16:36 |
| seb128 | bug #1589585 | 16:36 |
| ubot5 | bug 1589585 in gnome-software (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu Software tab Installed refreshing endlessly every 2 seconds" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1589585 | 16:36 |
| superm1 | ahh | 16:36 |
| seb128 | and we just hit ff | 16:36 |
| seb128 | I was sort of hoping somebody would update before ff | 16:36 |
| seb128 | that's the context ;-) | 16:36 |
| superm1 | thanks | 16:37 |
| superm1 | so no concern on my side uploading a newer fwupd to yakkety | 16:37 |
| superm1 | i was actually planning to do that once 0.7.3 is released | 16:37 |
| seb128 | I assumed you didn't do it for a reason | 16:37 |
| superm1 | but will be blocked by https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libsmbios | 16:37 |
| seb128 | I though the reason was that it needed g-s 3.22 and we still have 20 | 16:37 |
| superm1 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libsmbios/+bug/1603072 | 16:38 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1603072 in libsmbios (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libsmbios" [Undecided,New] | 16:38 |
| superm1 | sorry that | 16:38 |
| seb128 | ah ok | 16:38 |
| seb128 | it's assigned to jdstrand | 16:38 |
| seb128 | jdstrand, ^ is that MIR on your backlog? | 16:38 |
| seb128 | superm1, do you think we could backport the fix the usb thing to 0.7 otherwise? would be nice to get in the LTS in any case | 16:39 |
| superm1 | seb128: it is a pretty big change | 16:39 |
| superm1 | seb128: i would rather bring the whole newer version of fwupd to LTS than try to backport just that change | 16:40 |
| seb128 | k | 16:40 |
| seb128 | but that needs new depends apparently | 16:40 |
| superm1 | well that's for a different reason, but yes | 16:40 |
| superm1 | lots of things going on in parallel really | 16:40 |
| superm1 | the newer fwupd can flash non ESRT UEFI devices like TPM and docks | 16:41 |
| superm1 | but so i think the order of events i'm hoping can pan out: | 16:42 |
| superm1 | 1) that MIR is approved | 16:42 |
| superm1 | 2) newer fwupd is released | 16:42 |
| superm1 | 3) upload newer fwupd to yakkety | 16:42 |
| superm1 | 4) upload newer g-s to yakkety | 16:42 |
| superm1 | 5) bake all that and when it's known to be good backport to LTS | 16:42 |
| superm1 | and that will solve that issue, add teh support for the extra devices in one swoop | 16:42 |
| seb128 | that sounds like a good plan to me ;-) | 16:42 |
| seb128 | we might need some ffe for that though | 16:43 |
| superm1 | i had no idea it would take jdstrand this long on the MIR | 16:44 |
| superm1 | otherwise I would have been pushing for the newer fwupd release upstream and get this ball rolling sooner | 16:45 |
| seb128 | yeah, things are a bit crazy with snappy for him | 16:45 |
| seb128 | and MIR teams is sort of DoS-ed atm with unity8 stack reviews | 16:46 |
| superm1 | can it be assigned to someone else who's got the cycles maybe? | 16:46 |
| jdstrand | what mir? | 16:50 |
| jdstrand | if it is assigned to me, that is wrong | 16:50 |
| superm1 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libsmbios/+bug/1603072 | 16:50 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1603072 in libsmbios (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libsmbios" [Undecided,New] | 16:50 |
| superm1 | mterry assigned it | 16:50 |
| * mterry looks | 16:51 | |
| jdstrand | it should go to ubuntu-security | 16:51 |
| mterry | yeah that's fine | 16:51 |
| jdstrand | so then ratliff and or ty hicks can get it assigned | 16:52 |
| Laney | night! | 17:01 |
| seb128 | Laney, have a nice w.e! | 17:02 |
| Laney | and you | 17:02 |
| * Laney is going to go fly his spaceship around | 17:02 | |
| willcooke | seb128, fyi I think I'm about half way through now: https://code.launchpad.net/~willcooke/ubuntu-themes/hidpiicons | 17:22 |
| willcooke | tried to push at logical intervals so that we can unpick the broken stuff more easily ;) | 17:23 |
| seb128 | great | 17:25 |
| seb128 | k, enough for this week | 17:33 |
| willcooke | ditto | 17:33 |
| seb128 | have a nice w.e desktopers! | 17:34 |
| willcooke | have a good one! | 17:34 |
| willcooke | night all | 17:34 |
| superm1 | Laney: since you're uploading in debian, would you mind including the patches for appstream-glib referenced at the end of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream-glib/+bug/1591868 ? | 18:59 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1591868 in appstream-glib (Ubuntu Yakkety) "fwupd consuming 100% CPU" [Medium,Confirmed] | 18:59 |
| superm1 | they need to be SRU'ed into xenial too | 19:00 |
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