[04:34] <hikiko> hi
[05:14] <pitti> Good morning
[06:30] <ricotz> Sweet5hark1, hi, while you are not pushing your packaging changes and therefore I can't push mine, here is a serious problem I ran into https://paste.debian.net/plain/790383 (this rogue comment breaks this command)
[07:56] <willcooke> morning all
[07:57] <willcooke> Sweet5hark1, thanks for the LO FTBFS reports.   Sounds like you're having fun ;)
[07:57] <Sweet5hark1> moin
[07:59] <Sweet5hark1> willcooke: yes. see ricotz1 comment from  1:30 hours ago though. It _might_ be LibreOffice itself still after all. At least there is a glimmer of hope for that.
[07:59]  * Sweet5hark1 tests that right now.
[08:02] <Laney> morrrrrrrrrrrrrrning
[08:03] <Sweet5hark1> Laney: heya!
[08:04] <Laney> hey Sweet5hark1
[08:04] <Laney> did you win yet?
[08:04] <Laney> Trevinho: I didn't see it before - try trunk?
[08:05] <Sweet5hark1> Laney: against the buildds? not yet, but ricotz is giving me hope ...
[08:05] <Laney> hehe
[08:05] <Laney> how are you?
[08:06] <seb128> hey willcooke Sweet5hark1 Laney
[08:06] <willcooke> hey seb128 Laney
[08:06] <Laney> hi willcooke et seb128
[08:06] <Laney> how's it going?
[08:07] <Laney> happy friday too
[08:07] <Laney> it is raining!
[08:07] <willcooke> The rain is here
[08:07] <willcooke> :D:D
[08:07] <Sweet5hark1> Laney: and ricotz scares me a bit: the thing should have broken the build ~always AFAICS, but for some reason it worked. And that stuff is in there for _two years_ already.
[08:07] <Sweet5hark1> seb128: heya ...
[08:07] <willcooke> Golf competition tomorrow and it's forecast for 45 mph winds
[08:07] <willcooke> yay
[08:08] <Laney> hope you are good at compensating
[08:08] <Laney> also
[08:08] <Laney> #managerstereotypes
[08:08] <willcooke> lol
[08:08] <seb128> it's not raining here yet but they forecast rain starting in the afternoon, which is unfortunate I was supposed to play after work :-/
[08:09] <Sweet5hark1> Laney, willcooke: hah, good of you to take the rain for a few days. Here it was a miserable summer the last weeks, but now its better (because you took the rain for a few days, I guess).
[08:09] <Laney> it was our turn
[08:09] <willcooke> I think we're getting all our rain for the rest of the year in the next 24 hours
[08:09] <Laney> i'm happy actually
[08:10] <pitti> hey Laney, good morning!
[08:10] <pitti> hello willcooke
[08:10] <Laney> the water butt outside is empty
[08:10] <pitti> bonjour seb128 !
[08:10] <pitti> finally, some life here :)
[08:10] <Laney> AND i don't have to go to the allotment to water it
[08:10] <Laney> hey pitti!
[08:10] <seb128> yeah, like it's not going to rain between august and decembre in u.k, riiiiight
[08:10] <seb128> rrrright
[08:10] <seb128> rather ;-)
[08:10] <seb128> salut pitti! comment ça va ?
[08:11] <davmor2> willcooke: just drive the vw in a straight line you'll be fine it's small enough not to be affected by the wind.......what do you mean not that Golf there a game too
[08:11] <seb128> pitti, I'm up for a while, just doing quiet email catchups&co until u.k wakes up and IRC starts being active ;-)
[08:11] <pitti> seb128: j'ai encore une rhume, mais ça va, merci
[08:11] <seb128> oh :-(
[08:11] <seb128> repose toi bien !
[08:12] <Sweet5hark1> oh, nous entre l'heure du petit dejeuner francais!
[08:13] <Sweet5hark1> ^^ imagine that with a bad german accent in addition to the broken grammar.
[08:13] <pitti> non, c'est trop tard -- mais bien sûr c'est toujours l'heure de la glace :-P
[08:14] <pitti> I just submitted a talk proposal for FOSDEM
[08:14] <pitti> missed the deadline the last three years, so 2017 it is!
[08:14] <willcooke> davmor2, :))
[08:15] <Laney> oh wow, this is early
[08:15] <Sweet5hark1> all btw: let me repost https://twitter.com/maemst/status/766334568941096960 here because it is such awesome good news.
[08:15] <pitti> Laney: CfP ends in October, so still time; but I don't want to miss it again :)
[08:16] <pitti> Sweet5hark1: PoC ≠ Proof of Concept in this case, I figure?
[08:17] <Sweet5hark1> I mean 863K CHF is some good funding. On can actually solve quite some problems with that amount of money.
[08:17] <pitti> Sweet5hark1: this is a good day to die! err, "to deploy FOSS"!
[08:18] <Sweet5hark1> pitti: I think PoC is proof of concept here. so they actually might add more funds later.
[08:21] <Sweet5hark1> pitti: OTOH they are not commiting to migrating to LibreOffice/Linux with that yet. Just to spend up to 863K CHF to find out if that is workable. IMHO thats good: Its a serious budget and it doesnt say "with this budget you must be completely on FLOSS in the end or its a failure". Just with this budget you must be able to tell us if we should move to FLOSS in the end.
[08:22] <Trevinho> Laney: I would try trunk... Let me see
[08:23] <Trevinho> Morning by the way
[08:23] <seb128> hey Trevinho!
[08:23] <pitti> Sweet5hark1: that sounds workable indeed -- I suppose they want the answer in about a year, so this is like 8 well-paid full-time jobs for a year
[08:23] <pitti> well, "normally paid" for .ch :)
[08:23]  * Sweet5hark1 is willing to tell a lot of folks they should move to FLOSS for 863K CHF.
[08:23] <Sweet5hark1> pitti: yep
[08:24] <Trevinho> seb128: hey, how is it?
[08:24] <seb128> Trevinho, good! you?
[08:25] <Trevinho> seb128: yeah, allright... Although waking up at 5 to watch the beach volley final wasn't a great choice unfortunately :-(
[08:26] <seb128> oh, why, feeling too tired now? or was the match not good?
[08:26] <Trevinho> No, we've lost it 😢
[08:27] <Laney> Trevinho: pretty sure you want https://github.com/hughsie/appstream-glib/commit/1feb3abbe56661d83ee798d9ad98e49cfd525267
[08:29] <Laney> Trevinho: and hi!
[08:29] <Trevinho> Laney: yep, that's the one... Can you backport it?
[08:29] <Trevinho> Laney: Yes... Ciao!! ;-)
[10:45] <ricotz> Sweet5hark1, I doubt this will fix the build failure on yakkety, it is a more subtile break where the envars before the comment as really needed
[11:21] <ricotz> Sweet5hark1, did you got complaints about the removal of systray-support aka quickstart (gtk2 only)?
[11:29] <Sweet5hark1>  ricotz: wrt quickstart: nope. isnt visible on Unity desktops anyway ...
[11:33] <desrt> hihi
[11:33] <desrt> and good morning to all
[11:35] <Laney> hi de$rt
[11:36] <desrt> how did you know that i sold myself to microsoft?
[11:36] <Laney> i was thinking ke$ha
[11:36] <Laney> but that works too
[11:37] <Laney> how's it going?
[11:39] <willcooke> morning desrt
[11:42] <desrt> hello willcooke
[11:47] <ricotz> Sweet5hark1, ok, rene disabled/dropped it with 5.2
[12:07] <seb128> hey desrt
[12:07] <desrt> hello seb
[12:11] <Laney> Trevinho: you can try your unity build again
[12:32] <Guest53425> hi, I need some help with a drive mounting problem, my external hard drive is now mounted with both HDDname and HDDname1 and if I try to open the original it says permission denied
[12:33] <Guest53425> I have some seeding torrents that have paths that point to the HDDname (original) drive, so how could I fix that without having to go through each torrent and manually changing path?
[13:26] <Trevinho> Laney: thanks, it seems to go now
[13:34] <seb128> good for some exercice but the rain starts, bbiab
[13:41] <Laney> Trevinho: nice
[13:58] <ximion> Laney: you *think* you build Unity in Ubuntu?
[13:58] <ximion> how can you not know what you build? :D
[13:58] <Laney> I didn't build it
[13:58] <Laney> Trevinho just told me about it
[13:58] <Laney> (hi!)
[13:58] <ximion> :D
[13:59] <ximion> for some reason hughsie and I simultaneaously decided to throw out bad releases of AppStream :P
[13:59] <ximion> (although I am leading in bug-count right now)
[14:00] <ximion> (yay! :P)
[14:00] <Laney> heh
[14:02] <jibel> cyphermox, can you have a look at bug 1611010, very frequent
[14:04] <cyphermox> jibel: yeah, already aware of it, but it's a complicated issue
[14:05] <ximion> Laney: can't look at NMUs right now, because of $travel, but will do that later
[14:05] <Laney> ximion: can reschedule if you want
[14:06] <Laney> where are you $travelling to?
[14:06] <ximion> to some friends in Bonn (who are visiting the gamescom in Cologne) and then to my parents
[14:07] <Laney> fun
[14:07] <ximion> reschedule might be useful, I would like to have the changes in Git so Git and what's in unstable don't differ
[14:07] <Laney> one of my school friends is posting pictures from the gamescom
[14:08] <ximion> but actually, we could also just let it in and I will import it into Git later
[14:08] <Laney> k, well I attached the git patch to the bug
[14:08] <Laney> unless you have the ACLs on pkg-packagekit set up sensibly (i.e. so DDs can push) :)
[14:08] <ximion> I don't think that's the case
[14:08]  * ximion didn't even create the team
[14:08] <Laney> seems not
[14:10]  * Laney runs dcut ftp-master reschedule -f appstream-glib_0.6.1-1.1_source.changes -d 0
[14:11] <Laney> trying to think how to do this langpack thing in a sensible way btw
[14:11] <Laney> currently thinking of some kind of hook facility
[14:11] <Laney> so backends can add their sauce
[14:21] <ximion> yeah, that is probably the best way to do it
[14:31] <Laney> I wonder how to do it though
[14:31] <Laney> without having to keep lots of things in memory
[14:54] <willcooke> argh
[14:54] <willcooke> this -gtk-scaled thing is horrible
[14:54] <willcooke> I'm going word blind
[14:57] <willcooke> Laney, should I use -gtk-scaled in places like this as well?
[14:57] <willcooke>     border-image: url("assets/backdrop-combobox-button.png") 10 12 10 1 / 10px 12px 10px 1px stretch;
[15:08] <Laney> willcooke: I think you only need it when there's an @2
[15:08] <Laney> but haven't used it myself, so can't be sure
[15:08] <willcooke> right, there is a @2 for that one, but just not sure how to put it togther in that example
[15:08] <willcooke> would it be something like:
[15:09] <willcooke> -gtk-scaled(url("blah",url("blah@2")) 10 12 10 1 / etc
[15:10] <willcooke> also:  is there some kind of checker I can run over these new files, I've gone copy & paste blind and might have missed a few commas etc
[15:10] <Laney> hmm, not sure, probably
[15:10] <Laney> gtk should tell you if there's a syntax error
[15:10] <Laney> if you launch something
[15:15] <Laney> willcooke: thanks for the effort, sorry it's so lame a task
[15:18] <willcooke> Laney, aint no thing.  Happy to be contributing.  It makes for a pleasant change away from slide decks and trello boards
[15:19] <willcooke> I'll give it a go anyway and can undo if it breaks
[15:42] <bschaefer> Trevinho, got a fun looking compiz bug for you
[15:42] <bschaefer> Trevinho, http://i.imgur.com/VSCQZq3.jpg
[15:43] <Trevinho> hey bschaefer
[15:43] <bschaefer> (offset/origin messed up?) Notice the screenshot rendering of the desktop is correct
[15:43] <bschaefer> Trevinho, also hello!
[15:43] <Trevinho> not that fun.. :-)
[15:43] <Trevinho> Mmhmh, hikiko ^ ?
[15:43] <bschaefer> Trevinho, it flashes a bunch
[15:43] <bschaefer> this was the first time it actually *stopped*
[15:44] <bschaefer> but it goes from okay to crazy offset/origins
[15:44] <bschaefer> Trevinho, i assume its late for her
[15:44] <Trevinho> bschaefer: yeah, it should be... but hopefully she'll see the log on monday
[15:44] <bschaefer> cool yeah
[15:44] <Trevinho> but... yeah, is eems some camera issue
[15:44] <Trevinho> bschaefer: how is input going?
[15:45] <bschaefer> Trevinho, doing gamma atm :)
[15:45] <bschaefer> Trevinho, unless i mis understood that question :)
[15:47] <Trevinho> bschaefer: no, I meant.... in your bug :)
[15:47] <bschaefer> Trevinho, haha input is fine
[15:47] <bschaefer> soo if drag the cursor
[15:47] <Trevinho> bschaefer: what you do when you press the corners, is the input respecting what you see or  no?
[15:48] <bschaefer> it stops at the *bottom* of the perceived edge
[15:49] <bschaefer> Trevinho, the input behaves as if the rendering is the correct region (ie. if i move my cursor to the bottom of the hardware it goes to the top)
[15:49] <bschaefer> as if its still in the screen
[15:49] <bschaefer> Trevinho, ive had this happen with and with out workspaces
[15:49] <bschaefer> on yakkety
[15:49] <bschaefer> (two different intel machines)
[15:50] <Trevinho> bschaefer: is that happening always=?
[15:50] <Trevinho> I mean, do you have a way to reproduce it?
[15:50] <bschaefer> Trevinho, no it happens randomly sadly :(
[15:50] <Trevinho> a specific one... or just it happens?
[15:50] <Trevinho> mh
[15:50] <bschaefer> seems to happen when typing...
[15:50] <bschaefer> or opeing a menu
[15:50] <bschaefer> or switching workspaces (but doesnt need to have those for it)
[16:15]  * Trevinho after winning another battle with a new x11/gtk race, calls this a week...
[16:15] <Trevinho> have a nice WE everyone
[16:15] <bschaefer> Trevinho, have a good weekend!
[16:15] <Trevinho> thanks bschaefer, you too
[16:16] <willcooke> cya Trevinho
[16:27] <willcooke> Ubiquity in Y has lost the right alignment of the "skip" box when copying files.
[16:27] <willcooke> Known issue?  Maybe because of theme work?
[16:28] <seb128> Trevinho, have a nice w.e!
[16:28] <seb128> Trevinho, just being curious but what bug was that?
[16:29] <seb128> willcooke, not know afaik and likely gtk/theming yes
[16:29] <seb128> screenshot?
[16:31] <willcooke> seb128, it'll have to wait to next week now, up to my shoulders in hidpi copy & paste hell. :)
[16:31] <seb128> good luck with that... and thanks for working on it!
[16:32] <willcooke> but basically, the "skip" box is now tagged on the end of the text and moves backwards and forwards as the string lengths change
[16:32] <willcooke> seb128, I'm winning on the theme.  Just got some more 3.0 to do and then on to 3.2
[16:32] <seb128> I see what you mean, I wonder if that's really new
[16:32] <seb128> :-)
[16:32] <willcooke> then I need to run it through a parser or something to find all the typos I made and fix them :)
[16:33] <seb128> oh, Laney send the ff email, official now
[16:33] <seb128> we should start making a list of things we didn't manage to land and might want
[16:33] <seb128> like new gstreamer
[16:33] <seb128> new gnome-software?
[16:34] <seb128> superm1 hey, was there any discussion with robert_ancell about updating fwupd? I guess that blocked on updating g-s? we couldn't backport that work if we don't update g-s?
[16:34] <superm1> seb128: i'm missing context here
[16:36] <seb128> superm1, sorry, I'm mostly wondering why is "there is a fix upstream"  for months but we don't get the version with the fix
[16:36] <superm1> this in relation to xenial or yakkety?  and to a particular issue to solve?
[16:36] <seb128> bug #1589585
[16:36] <superm1> ahh
[16:36] <seb128> and we just hit ff
[16:36] <seb128> I was sort of hoping somebody would update before ff
[16:36] <seb128> that's the context ;-)
[16:37] <superm1> thanks
[16:37] <superm1> so no concern on my side uploading a newer fwupd to yakkety
[16:37] <superm1> i was actually planning to do that once 0.7.3 is released
[16:37] <seb128> I assumed you didn't do it for a reason
[16:37] <superm1> but will be blocked by https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libsmbios
[16:37] <seb128> I though the reason was that it needed g-s 3.22 and we still have 20
[16:38] <superm1> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libsmbios/+bug/1603072
[16:38] <superm1> sorry that
[16:38] <seb128> ah ok
[16:38] <seb128> it's assigned to jdstrand
[16:38] <seb128> jdstrand, ^ is that MIR on your backlog?
[16:39] <seb128> superm1, do you think we could backport the fix the usb thing to 0.7 otherwise? would be nice to get in the LTS in any case
[16:39] <superm1> seb128: it is a pretty big change
[16:40] <superm1> seb128: i would rather bring the whole newer version of fwupd to LTS than try to backport just that change
[16:40] <seb128> k
[16:40] <seb128> but that needs new depends apparently
[16:40] <superm1> well that's for a different reason, but yes
[16:40] <superm1> lots of things going on in parallel really
[16:41] <superm1> the newer fwupd can flash non ESRT UEFI devices like TPM and docks
[16:42] <superm1> but so i think the order of events i'm hoping can pan out:
[16:42] <superm1> 1) that MIR is approved
[16:42] <superm1> 2) newer fwupd is released
[16:42] <superm1> 3) upload newer fwupd to yakkety
[16:42] <superm1> 4) upload newer g-s to yakkety
[16:42] <superm1> 5) bake all that and when it's known to be good backport to LTS
[16:42] <superm1> and that will solve that issue, add teh support for the extra devices in one swoop
[16:42] <seb128> that sounds like a good plan to me ;-)
[16:43] <seb128> we might need some ffe for that though
[16:44] <superm1> i had no idea it would take jdstrand this long on the MIR
[16:45] <superm1> otherwise I would have been pushing for the newer fwupd release upstream and get this ball rolling sooner
[16:45] <seb128> yeah, things are a bit crazy with snappy for him
[16:46] <seb128> and MIR teams is sort of DoS-ed atm with unity8 stack reviews
[16:46] <superm1> can it be assigned to someone else who's got the cycles maybe?
[16:50] <jdstrand> what mir?
[16:50] <jdstrand> if it is assigned to me, that is wrong
[16:50] <superm1> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libsmbios/+bug/1603072
[16:50] <superm1> mterry assigned it
[16:51]  * mterry looks
[16:51] <jdstrand> it should go to ubuntu-security
[16:51] <mterry> yeah that's fine
[16:52] <jdstrand> so then ratliff and or ty hicks can get it assigned
[17:01] <Laney> night!
[17:02] <seb128> Laney, have a nice w.e!
[17:02] <Laney> and you
[17:02]  * Laney is going to go fly his spaceship around
[17:22] <willcooke> seb128, fyi I think I'm about half way through now:  https://code.launchpad.net/~willcooke/ubuntu-themes/hidpiicons
[17:23] <willcooke> tried to push at logical intervals so that we can unpick the broken stuff more easily ;)
[17:25] <seb128> great
[17:33] <seb128> k, enough for this week
[17:33] <willcooke> ditto
[17:34] <seb128> have a nice w.e desktopers!
[17:34] <willcooke> have a good one!
[17:34] <willcooke> night all
[18:59] <superm1> Laney: since you're uploading in debian, would you mind including the patches for appstream-glib referenced at the end of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream-glib/+bug/1591868 ?
[19:00] <superm1> they need to be SRU'ed into xenial too