[01:20] <Omnifrog> I've used Quassel before. It's not half bad
[01:21] <Unit193> It's not actually a great IRC client, but the killer feature it has is quasselcore.
[01:22] <Omnifrog> yeah
[01:23] <wrst> Yes the client is so-so but the core and cross platform clients are killer
[01:41] <minasota> wrst:I've use lets encrypt with owncloud and startcom. the cert warning when sharing via owncloud with self signed can be bypassed if you're serving with apache
[01:41] <wrst> minasota: I am using Apache
[01:43] <minasota> what version of owncloud
[01:44] <Unit193> ...You don't just add your own CA? :3
[01:44] <Unit193> (To your system and firefox)
[01:46] <wrst> minasota: I'm running the latest from the opensuse repo thing 8 something I think?
[01:46] <minasota> What if he shares a file and sends me a link? If I got there I'll get a nice warning in ff that the cert can't be verified Unit193
[01:47] <Unit193> minasota: My friend added my CA to his system too. :P
[01:47] <Unit193> But yeah, for that there's StartSSL or Let's Encrypt
[01:47] <minasota> That works if you share within a trusted/limited group of people that know you, trust you...
[01:50] <minasota> But yeah, you are right Unit193 to expand that to folks that don't know who you are, using lets encrypt or startssl helps
[01:54]  * minasota doesn't think it matters anyway, at some point all traffic go through something at some point that is vulnerable
[01:58] <Unit193> minasota: Teeechnically, if it's your own CA and with yourself or someone else that has it trusted, it's actually more secure. :>
[01:58] <Unit193> Also, I have an "internal" git server that has my own CA, well turns out I use it more than I thought and have linked some people, so internal CA is not the most ideal anymore.
[04:09] <cyberanger> Unit193: presuming you keep your CA more secure, and verify it's from your CA, check that another CA didn't sign an unauthorized cert to use to MitM you.
[22:54] <cyberanger> Hrm, I need a newer kernel for tails it seems, the laptop's ElanTech touchpad isn't being picked up (but my touchscreen is, so I've been able to try it all out at least)
[22:54] <cyberanger> Might double check with the DVD first (be sure the flash drive isn't corrupt) cause I thought I had it working there.