[06:23] <flocculant> no images again
[06:31] <flocculant> buildlog here says it built https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/+livefs/ubuntu/yakkety/xubuntu
[06:32] <flocculant> log here says it didn't http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/cd-build-logs/xubuntu/yakkety/
[06:34] <flocculant> all that give is perhaps warning reading apt/preferences.d *shrug*
[06:34] <flocculant> let's see if it rebuilds 
[06:35] <flocculant> if not perhaps someone could ask Dave to go asking in -release
[07:24] <ochosi> bluesabre: re:hig you mean something like this? https://wiki.xfce.org/dev/hig/general
[07:24] <ochosi> but yeah, it needs updating
[07:24] <ochosi> and i totally agree on the binding and cleanup stuff
[07:24] <ochosi> definitely a good chance since we're touching so many components
[07:25] <Unit193> A wild ochosi appears!  Also noticed after you disappeared that you actually comitted my patch to xfce4-notifyd. :3
[07:25] <Unit193> Thanks? :D
[07:53] <akxwi-dave> flocculant, daily images are up now..
[09:44] <bluesabre> ochosi: definitely needs updating as the very lengthy and useful gnome hig 2.0 has been replaced with the short and sweet 3.0
[10:02] <akxwi-dave> flocculant, If you get chance can you try one of todays ISO's  when installed getting a language support not installed error.. Network icon showing grey out, but saying connected, not internet access thru web browser or pinging from terminal.. Maybe a Vbox thing not sure.. going to try with VMware..
[10:25] <akxwi-dave> same with vmware
[11:55] <flocculant> akxwi-dave: will try one now
[11:59] <flocculant> akxwi-dave: re images I rebuilt - and got enough time to check they booted prior to work
[12:00] <flocculant> still not sure what happened, though I suspect it was just some transient LP tomfoolery
[12:01] <flocculant> akxwi-dave: when you install - do you notice the 'Skip' button wandering back and forwards at the end of the text string telling what the installer is up to
[12:01] <flocculant> ?
[12:06] <flocculant> akxwi-dave: can confirm those bugs 
[12:10] <flocculant> quickly grabbing ubuntu iso to check - I'd guess this will be one of those (hopefully)
[12:13] <akxwi-dave> hi mate, sorry back from lunch..  yes can confirm the skip button thing
[12:13] <flocculant> k
[12:13] <flocculant> just booting ubuntu now
[12:14] <akxwi-dave> lol noticed you rebuilt them, when originally checked tehy weren't showing on tracker,, then around 5 mins later were.
[12:14] <flocculant> :)
[12:15] <flocculant> pretty sure this is going to fail - had to tell installer London
[12:16] <akxwi-dave> also just to let yo know, usually out at lunch bewteen 12 and 1 just incase you need me at that time
[12:16] <flocculant> yea I knew times sort of - but as you're in channel can read later - my lunch is whenever I stop :)
[12:16] <akxwi-dave> I can confirm the london one a s well it had me in US
[12:17] <flocculant> yea - no network on live does that 
[12:18] <akxwi-dave> ahhh..
[12:18] <akxwi-dave> I'll remember that one
[12:21] <flocculant> http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/n/network-manager/network-manager_1.2.2-0ubuntu8/changelog
[12:21] <flocculant> perhaps :)
[12:23] <flocculant> akxwi-dave: did you chnge US to london?
[12:23] <akxwi-dave> yep
[12:23] <akxwi-dave> one the 386 version anyway
[12:23] <flocculant> I did with ubuntu - no incomplete language there *shrug* can't remember what I did with us
[12:23] <flocculant> anyway I'll ping pitti in -release re his changes
[12:23] <akxwi-dave> on the amd version I just left as is
[12:24] <flocculant> k
[12:25] <flocculant> ok - asking in -release now, back off out now - back later :)
[12:25] <akxwi-dave> cya later mate
[12:26] <flocculant> we shall see what they say :p
[18:47] <flocculant> akxwi-dave: iso *should* be ok next build
[18:47] <akxwi-dave> cheers.. aye saw their comments earlier :-)
[20:26] <ochosi> bluesabre: yeah then again another boring doc to write that potentially nobody will read/follow. i mean after all it didn't seem like you knew the xfce hig by heart or anything ;)
[20:40] <ochosi> Unit193: well thanks for the patch! :)
[22:12] <bluesabre> ochosi: I was aware of it, but remembered that there was very little anything layout-related in it
[22:12] <bluesabre> ochosi: but yeah, I understand where you're coming from
[22:13] <bluesabre> ochosi: buuuuut, technically the gnome hig it currently links to will create apps that do not look like gtk2 apps ;)