[05:04] <ahoneybun> clivejo: looks like that kdenlive is 16.04.3
[06:17] <acheronuk> ahoneybun: that is from KCI, so it may say 16.04.3+somthing, but it is really latest unstable git.
[13:12] <acheronuk> yofel, santa - was there any decision on what to do about symbols going missing in KCI etc due purely to building with gcc6?
[13:15] <clivejo> think yofel wanted to mark the optional
[13:17] <clivejo> [19:28:31] <santa_> so I think we could follow a better workflow and it's working in parallel for yakkety and xenial and mark the gcc6-only optional symbols as optional=gccinternal
[13:17] <clivejo> or maybe it was santa
[13:22] <acheronuk> clivejo: that's what I recalled being said, but wasn't sure if that was a definite ok on that.
[13:29] <acheronuk> Prime example ^^^^^
[13:29] <acheronuk> +#MISSING: 5.24.0+p16.10+git20160820.1256-0# _ZNK3KJS7JSValue8toStringEPNS_9ExecStateE@Base 5.24.0
[13:30] <acheronuk> No changes in kde git when that went AWOL, and only difference was gcc6 used on the 1st build that went missing
[13:32]  * blaze wants to package some kf5 apps like krename or ktorrent, and fix some issues he found recently but don't have enough time
[13:32] <acheronuk> so in theory would go to (optional=gccinternal)_ZNK3KJS7JSValue8toStringEPNS_9ExecStateE@Base
[13:32] <BluesKaj> hiyas all
[14:19] <santa_> acheronuk, clivejo: https://code.launchpad.net/~panfaust/kubuntu-packaging/+git/kjsembed/+merge/302705
[14:19] <santa_> it would be nice if we could get this merge requests at least in git, in order to avoid work duplication
[14:20] <santa_> they were there for days, and note that the affected packages are failing to build in yakketty
[14:29] <santa_> * these merge requests
[14:36] <acheronuk> santa_: oh. nifty timing. I just pushed an equivalent change to test on KCI. May as well let that build now..
[14:37] <acheronuk> double oh. proposed on on 2016-08-11. I don't seem to have an email on that
[14:56] <BluesKaj> have you guys noticed the the update-apt-xapian index runs at almost 100% cpu on Xenail and Yakkety shortly after login. It practically paralyses any other apps that might be running at the time, and it does this on every boot/login to the desktop.Is it absolutely neccessary for apt and muon to update every time I boot in to my OS? This was areported as a bug on 10.04 up to 16.04, but this is the firat time it became so intrusive.
[14:57] <BluesKaj> firat-first
[15:04] <blaze> BluesKaj: try to set updates to "weekly" in Software Settings
[15:06] <santa_> acheronuk: well, your kubuntu_yakkety_archive branch is still *fails* to build from source, and they are other 4 frameworks affatected by the same problem
[15:09] <santa_> and note also that I mentioned these issues more than once here and yet you decided to not include them
[15:11] <BluesKaj> blaze, I don't think that's going to do it the daily setting doesn't prevent the update-apt xapian index from running If I reboot on the same day
[15:12] <santa_> s/to not include them/to not apply my patches/
[15:12] <blaze> BluesKaj: probably that's because you're installing/removing something every session
[15:13] <acheronuk> santa_: well, I don't have an emails on merges for those, and the discussion I recall was not 100% conclusive
[15:14] <acheronuk> so it's not a case of deciding not to, on my part anyway
[15:14] <BluesKaj> blaze, no , not always , sometimes I'm just switching from Xenial to Yakkety and vice versa
[15:15] <santa_> acheronuk: that's the problem, that it was not 100% conclusive ... because *you* all didn't extract a conclusion. but I did
[15:17] <santa_> acheronuk: and my conslusion is: these patches must be included in kubuntu_yakkety_archive; this way you will have something buidable and they also must be merged in kubuntu_unstable
[15:19] <santa_> and if you still have doubts, grab the kubuntu_yakkety_archive, rebuild against yakkety, see how it fails to build from source and check that my patch fixes the problem
[15:20] <santa_> I think that should be pretty conclusive ;)
[15:24] <acheronuk> ahoneybun: kdenlive in clive's ppa is 16.11.70, despite the package saying 16.04.3. as it's also + git unstable
[15:24] <acheronuk> or I have the actual 16.08 here https://launchpad.net/~acheron/+archive/ubuntu/yakkety/+packages 
[15:26] <acheronuk> santa_: likely correct. as said, had only seen brief mention before now.
[15:27] <santa_> np
[18:02] <ghostcube_> hi folks. if prevent focus stealing is set to high. the plasma panel apps wont work proberly. will say you cant open kmenu for example if konsole is active window
[19:57] <valorie> ghostcube_: you could discuss that with the plasma devels in #plasma
[19:58] <valorie> although it's a summer weekend and most will not be around
[20:01] <ghostcube_> valorie: ok thx
[20:59] <pursuivant> muon (master) v5.6.0-7-gca1379c * Carlo Vanini: src/muonapt/QAptActions.cpp
[20:59] <pursuivant> show error message if software-properties-kde cannot be found
[20:59] <pursuivant> Settings -> "Configure Software Sources" invokes the external program
[20:59] <pursuivant> software-properties-kde, if it is not found show an error message.
[20:59] <pursuivant> http://commits.kde.org/muon/ca1379c2f8041f775625255018463a25f9c782b9
[21:33] <valorie> merge messages hitting the list.....
[21:33] <valorie> could answer santa_'s and acheronuk's questions
[21:34] <valorie> perhaps
[21:36] <acheronuk> nope. I think my gmail may be eating some.