[09:47] <Kilos> morning all
[11:00] <superfly> hi Kilos
[11:00] <Kilos> hi superfly all well?
[11:01] <superfly> Kilos: ja, just very tired. i haven't been sleeping well
[11:01] <Kilos> eish
[11:01] <superfly> anyway, I need to get back to work. Lots to do
[11:02] <Kilos> too much to think about and plan
[14:23] <Kilos> hmm...
[14:59] <shadow> Ai what a long day
[14:59] <shadow> How is eveyone
[14:59] <Kilos> hi sha
[15:00] <Kilos> ai!
[16:08] <Kilos> hmm...
[17:22] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[17:57] <Symmetria> heh
[17:57] <Symmetria> sup
[17:57] <Symmetria> who is awake
[18:05] <kulelu88> me
[18:15] <Symmetria> heh man, Im working 2 hard
[18:15] <Symmetria> :(
[18:15] <Symmetria> tired and worn out
[18:22] <kulelu88> Symmetria: are you a programmer?
[18:22] <kulelu88> you're experiencing burnout
[18:22] <kulelu88> a natural progression of a programmers career
[18:22] <Symmetria> lol, no, Im not a programmer
[18:23] <Symmetria> heh, I'm... lol I dont even know how to begin explaining what I do
[18:29] <ra1v3n> gnyt all
[18:31] <kulelu88> entrepreneur?
[18:31] <kulelu88> sysadmin?
[18:31] <kulelu88> bitcoin trader?
[18:36] <superfly> kulelu88: Symmetria is a sysadmin (basically), he used to work for TENET, now runs his own business.
[18:37] <kulelu88> running your own remote IT operation is the ultimate goal :D
[18:38] <Symmetria> superfly no
[18:38] <Symmetria> I work for Liquid Telecomms
[18:39] <Symmetria> have for 3 years :)
[18:39] <Symmetria> offically my title is Group Head of Network Strategy
[18:39] <kulelu88> oh you the big boss
[18:39] <Symmetria> effectively that means I set the strategy, policy and direction as regards anything on the network for Liquid and all its op-cos in 14 countries
[18:40] <kulelu88> aah I remember now. you and the other guy were trying to track me via IRC, and then I told you about the open position at Blue Telecoms and what a bad job posting it was
[18:40] <Symmetria> heh, no :) I still have 3 people above me 
[18:40] <kulelu88> and you run your botnet on their infrastructure :D
[18:41] <Symmetria> heh it's gonna be very interesting when we start working with the Neotel network
[18:41] <Symmetria> (we bought Neotel)
[18:41] <kulelu88> wasn't vodacom going to buy them?
[18:41] <kulelu88> who is BTs biggest shareholder?
[18:42] <Symmetria> BT? I don't work for BT :P I work for Liquid :P 
[18:43] <Symmetria> heh and Liquid is privately owned by two individuals
[18:43] <kulelu88> oh yeah, sorry. Blue/Liquid
[18:43] <Symmetria> Strive Maseiva and Nic Rudnick
[18:43] <kulelu88> 2 old white dudes?
[18:43] <Symmetria> actually Strive Masiyiwa
[18:43] <Symmetria> :P I can never spell his name
[18:43] <Symmetria> haha, both of them are actually Zimbabweans
[18:44] <Symmetria> and yes, vodacom was going to buy neotel, they failed
[18:44] <Symmetria> so we bought it instead
[18:44] <Symmetria> ;p
[18:44] <kulelu88> that's a big acquisition though. Neotel isn't some small company
[18:44] <Symmetria> heh Kule, neither is Liquid 
[18:44] <kulelu88> Can you tell Neotel to connect the DFA to my house? 
[18:44] <kulelu88> I need 1 GB/s internet :D
[18:44] <Symmetria> Liquid has been bigger than Neotel for a long time though, but we're also growing fast
[18:45] <kulelu88> sounds more like a merger than acquisition
[18:45] <Symmetria> heh, we bought them, outright
[18:46] <kulelu88> cash?
[18:46] <Symmetria> thats not a merger 
[18:46] <Symmetria> heh, it was a half a billion dollar buyout
[18:47] <Symmetria> http://www.livemint.com/Companies/GMHhdXhxgeLEJb9a8S5UBJ/Tata-Communications-sells-Neotel-to-Africas-Liquid-Telecom.html
[18:48] <Symmetria> (and heh, that refers to econet as the largest shareholder of liquid, but Strive owns econet, so its really strive)
[18:48] <kulelu88> wasn't exactly a Liquid-only deal: http://www.tatacommunications.com/article/liquid-telecom-and-rbh-announce-agreement-acquire-neotel . RBH also put up money
[18:49] <Symmetria> heh, yes, 30% stake, making them a minority shareholder
[18:49] <kulelu88> I reckon Strive must be the Zim equivalent of a Russian oligarch 
[18:49] <kulelu88> right place right time. 1980 :D
[18:49] <Symmetria> anyway, smoke time, later
[18:50] <kulelu88> ciao
[19:25] <nlsthzn> so I saw someone is moving to the big US of A...
[19:29] <kulelu88> cause "this country is finished" ?
[19:30] <nlsthzn> dunno, is it?
[19:30] <kulelu88> dollar is below 14 again, so there's hope
[19:32]  * nlsthzn hasn't checked in a bit, means I get less when I send money over... oh well 
[19:34] <nlsthzn> ah looking much better now for the R actually - http://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=USD&to=ZAR&view=1Y
[19:35] <kulelu88> more to do with the other markets than the rand itself
[19:35] <kulelu88> must have been investments into anglogold and co.
[19:36] <kulelu88> surprised that IRC works for you nlsthzn 
[19:38] <nlsthzn> me too... normally blocked :)
[19:54] <kulelu88> must be logging it though nlsthzn  :D
[19:55] <nlsthzn> yes, I have to assume they are
[19:55] <kulelu88> fuck al makhtoum :)
[19:56] <nlsthzn> ?
[19:57] <kulelu88> in case they're logging :P
[19:57] <nlsthzn> so it would amuse you if I not only loose my job but go to jail for several years?
[19:57] <kulelu88> why would they arrest you for what I said?
[19:58] <nlsthzn> who knows?
[19:58] <nlsthzn> anyhow...
[19:58] <kulelu88> well I can't feel pity for anybody who willingly stays in an oppressive country
[19:59] <kulelu88> your choice, your risks
[22:54] <magespawn> Maaz tell superfly, i just read the blog post, don't know how i can help but just say the word and we will do what we can
[22:54] <Maaz> magespawn: I don't know who superfly, is. Say 'superfly, on freenode' and I'll take your word that superfly, exists
[22:55] <nlsthzn> o/ magespawn 
[22:55] <nlsthzn> I only saw that the fly is leaving, hadn't had a chance to read the blog 
[22:56] <magespawn> Maaz tell superfly i just read the blog post, don't know how i can help but just say the word and we will do what we can
[22:56] <Maaz> magespawn: Righto, I'll tell superfly on freenode
[22:56] <magespawn> hey nlsthzn 
[22:57] <magespawn> just read the post he put up on his blog
[23:16] <kulelu88> magespawn: blog link?
[23:17] <kulelu88> ok found
[23:18] <magespawn> cool beans, sorry half a sleep here
[23:21] <kulelu88> wow, superfly is leaving
[23:22] <kulelu88> I'm glad though. Better prospects for him in the US I hope
[23:42] <magespawn> i am off to bed, good night all
[23:47] <nlsthzn> cheers all