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flocculantochosi: are you sure *we* should be seeing a blue outline on password boxes ? looks a bit odd with greybird imo06:40
flocculantochosi: rather in yakkety the blue outline is a lot bigger than it is in xenial07:05
flocculantif anyone is running yakkety - don't update ... 07:53
flocculantupdated my yak install - get no desktop - not a thing ... no alt+f2 to try and get things running07:54
flocculantthought it was just *that* install07:54
flocculantdid a clean install of yak from an oldish iso, updated and boom - same thing 07:54
flocculanthttp://paste.ubuntu.com/23072451/ doesn't appear to be anything of ours which has caused it07:56
flocculantbluesabre: dailies are a bit meh atm - and ubuntu isn't :(10:43
flocculanttrying to live desktop - just blank - nothing there 10:44
flocculantwonder if that could be tied up with my earlier update at yak leaving me with wallpaper only 10:44
flocculantjust trying an install 10:45
bluesabreflocculant: that sounds terribly exciting10:51
sakrecoerflocculant: oddly enough i can't find the bug i filed, i remember it be set to "private".. but i had problems installing yakkety daily on 2016-08-06.. same bug as this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/161037710:51
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1610377 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Unable to install Daily Build of Ubuntu Studio 16.10" [Undecided,New]10:51
sakrecoerafter failing with the US one, i tried the xubuntu iso, and it had the same problem...10:51
sakrecoersome oddness with the DE..10:51
flocculantbluesabre: hugely ... 10:52
flocculantsakrecoer: mmm10:52
sakrecoeri mean, might not be related at all... but i thought i'd mention it...10:55
flocculantsakrecoer: yea - thanks :)10:58
flocculantbluesabre: so it appears that what we show at the try/install dialogue and for ubiquity when going straight to install is ok, installs apparently, reboots to login (eventually) then zilch, nada :(10:59
bluesabresounds like something somebody else broke11:00
flocculantyea11:00
flocculantlike I said earlier - can't see anything in the list of updates I got which would be us 11:00
bluesabresuppose this means you get to relax this weekend and not work :D11:01
flocculantmight try enabling proposed on one of the 2 broken installs ...11:01
flocculantbluesabre: hah - I been working - built some flapjacks and some lardy cake \o/11:02
flocculantfeasting on sugar today lol11:02
bluesabredon't know what lardy cake is, but I know what lard is11:02
bluesabreD:11:02
flocculanthttp://plum-kitchen.blogspot.co.uk/2010/07/lardy-cakeno-im-not-kidding.html11:03
flocculantbasically bread - with fruit and lard and sugar in it - then when it's cooked, pour the escaped lard over the top and put a bit more sugar on it :D11:03
bluesabreewwwwwwwwwwwwwwq11:04
flocculant:p11:05
flocculantbluesabre: so that's a no for proposed, but not unexpected 11:20
flocculantweekend off then as you said \o/11:20
bluesabreflocculant: when was the last good image?11:21
flocculantcouple of days ago - there's been non-existent network for a day or two11:21
flocculantI know that wed build was good - I installed from it - then made the mistake of upgrading it :p11:22
flocculantI'm not going to rebuild ubuntu (though I could) so will see if that crashes in flames tomorrow - which would at least help us ;)11:22
bluesabreflocculant: thanks, heading out for now, bbabl11:23
flocculantbluesabre: have a good day :)11:23
bluesabreyou too11:23
flocculantbluesabre: Mate has same issue - no desktop after install and login - suspect all will once built 12:21
flocculantflexiondotorg: fyi ^^12:22
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Unit193bluesabre: whisker 1.6.0 look important enough?17:59
Unit193https://mail.xfce.org/pipermail/xfce/2016-August/035152.html17:59
bluesabreUnit193: the changelog sounds good at least18:00
flocculantevening18:00
bluesabrehey flocculant18:01
flocculantbluesabre: just finished checking most of the iso's - seems like only us and mate with an issue 18:01
bluesabre:\18:01
flocculantyup18:01
flocculantthat said - ubuntu will be rebuilt overnight and I'll check that tomorrow18:02
bluesabrek18:02
flocculantmy installs are still dead though18:02
Unit193I thought US had a problem too?18:02
flocculantand guest login 18:02
Unit193flocculant: Also thanks for the warning, though I have a feeling it's too late.  I just won't reboot now. :318:02
flocculantUnit193: probably - I rarely bother with that as it's loads big and if we're dead they usually are :)18:03
flocculantUnit193: good luck then :p18:03
bluesabreUnit193: time for max uptime18:03
flocculantI'm just glad I'd actually got around to sorting a xenial install out ... 18:04
flocculantbluesabre: even if ubuntu is ok - if we (and mate) are still broke monday - martin w is more likely to be around in -release :p18:05
bluesabreflocculant: indeed18:05
flocculantduring uk day ofc18:05
Unit193Making a loooot of noise. :P18:05
bluesabrewhich is handy dandy18:05
flocculant:)18:05
bluesabresince I can't complain while UK folks are at work18:05
flocculantanyway - I'll obviously check again tomorrow morning and keep you updated on where we stand there18:06
bluesabregoodie18:06
Unit193flocculant: Going to poke at it in VM.18:06
flocculantI'm not even sure what package to report bug against :(18:06
bluesabrego for broke18:06
flocculantif I knew that I could start failing tracker 18:06
bluesabre"linux"18:06
flocculantI guess so :D18:07
Unit193'ubuntu' :P18:07
flocculantha ha ha 18:07
Unit193Meh, I suppose I should get the GTK3 whisker too.18:08
flocculanttracker tells people to report against syslinux if dead when booting live 18:08
flocculantUnit193: I saw that pop up :)18:08
Unit193Mir and lightdm updates, what could go wrong?18:09
Unit193Oh, kernel and systemd too..18:09
bluesabreall of the above18:09
flocculant"<pitti> Laney: ooh -- you mean THINGS really, like half of -proposed" "pitti> Friday evening is the BEST time to break yakkety"18:10
Unit193fwupd, gcc, binutils...  Yeah didn't hit those last night, I might be safe.18:10
flocculantUnit193: those were definitely in the updates that killed mine off 18:11
flocculantunless you actually read the pastebin and know that :D18:11
Unit193Yeah it could be any number of things. :D18:11
flocculant:)18:11
Unit193flocculant: I looked at it, but I didn't study it.18:11
flocculantI'll hold of on reporting it against some vague package till tomorrow - but if it's still the same I suppose anything is better than nothing18:12
flocculantbbl 18:13
Unit193I'm a bit wondering if it is a lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter mismatch.18:14
flocculantUnit193: is it only us and mate use those?18:15
Unit193flocculant: Well, Xu, US, Myth, MATE.  I'm not sure if Lu does this cycle.18:16
flocculantMyth is finished with iso's afaik 18:17
flocculantLu worked - so perhaps not :)18:17
flocculantseems they do according to buildlog18:18
flocculantand there both same versions for us and them - so wasn't some update during day18:20
Unit193Still waiting on the VM, but glad it wasn't that.  Got the switch to a TTY or whatnot on upgrade, same as I had in Debian a couple days ago.18:21
flocculantanyway - bbl to see what you find 18:22
flocculantUnit193: see anything of note in vm?20:16
Unit193flocculant: Yeah, that systemd doesn't tell you much, I really miss upstart's logging to ~/.cache/upstart/.  I just bailed and went with my custom .xinitrc and startx. :P20:17
flocculant:)20:17
flocculantI'll have another go tomorrow20:18
flocculantfor now - goodnight all20:18
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