[06:40] <flocculant> ochosi: are you sure *we* should be seeing a blue outline on password boxes ? looks a bit odd with greybird imo
[07:05] <flocculant> ochosi: rather in yakkety the blue outline is a lot bigger than it is in xenial
[07:53] <flocculant> if anyone is running yakkety - don't update ... 
[07:54] <flocculant> updated my yak install - get no desktop - not a thing ... no alt+f2 to try and get things running
[07:54] <flocculant> thought it was just *that* install
[07:54] <flocculant> did a clean install of yak from an oldish iso, updated and boom - same thing 
[07:56] <flocculant> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23072451/ doesn't appear to be anything of ours which has caused it
[10:43] <flocculant> bluesabre: dailies are a bit meh atm - and ubuntu isn't :(
[10:44] <flocculant> trying to live desktop - just blank - nothing there 
[10:44] <flocculant> wonder if that could be tied up with my earlier update at yak leaving me with wallpaper only 
[10:45] <flocculant> just trying an install 
[10:51] <bluesabre> flocculant: that sounds terribly exciting
[10:51] <sakrecoer> flocculant: oddly enough i can't find the bug i filed, i remember it be set to "private".. but i had problems installing yakkety daily on 2016-08-06.. same bug as this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1610377
[10:51] <sakrecoer> after failing with the US one, i tried the xubuntu iso, and it had the same problem...
[10:51] <sakrecoer> some oddness with the DE..
[10:52] <flocculant> bluesabre: hugely ... 
[10:52] <flocculant> sakrecoer: mmm
[10:55] <sakrecoer> i mean, might not be related at all... but i thought i'd mention it...
[10:58] <flocculant> sakrecoer: yea - thanks :)
[10:59] <flocculant> bluesabre: so it appears that what we show at the try/install dialogue and for ubiquity when going straight to install is ok, installs apparently, reboots to login (eventually) then zilch, nada :(
[11:00] <bluesabre> sounds like something somebody else broke
[11:00] <flocculant> yea
[11:00] <flocculant> like I said earlier - can't see anything in the list of updates I got which would be us 
[11:01] <bluesabre> suppose this means you get to relax this weekend and not work :D
[11:01] <flocculant> might try enabling proposed on one of the 2 broken installs ...
[11:02] <flocculant> bluesabre: hah - I been working - built some flapjacks and some lardy cake \o/
[11:02] <flocculant> feasting on sugar today lol
[11:02] <bluesabre> don't know what lardy cake is, but I know what lard is
[11:02] <bluesabre> D:
[11:03] <flocculant> http://plum-kitchen.blogspot.co.uk/2010/07/lardy-cakeno-im-not-kidding.html
[11:03] <flocculant> basically bread - with fruit and lard and sugar in it - then when it's cooked, pour the escaped lard over the top and put a bit more sugar on it :D
[11:04] <bluesabre> ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwq
[11:05] <flocculant> :p
[11:20] <flocculant> bluesabre: so that's a no for proposed, but not unexpected 
[11:20] <flocculant> weekend off then as you said \o/
[11:21] <bluesabre> flocculant: when was the last good image?
[11:21] <flocculant> couple of days ago - there's been non-existent network for a day or two
[11:22] <flocculant> I know that wed build was good - I installed from it - then made the mistake of upgrading it :p
[11:22] <flocculant> I'm not going to rebuild ubuntu (though I could) so will see if that crashes in flames tomorrow - which would at least help us ;)
[11:23] <bluesabre> flocculant: thanks, heading out for now, bbabl
[11:23] <flocculant> bluesabre: have a good day :)
[11:23] <bluesabre> you too
[12:21] <flocculant> bluesabre: Mate has same issue - no desktop after install and login - suspect all will once built 
[12:22] <flocculant> flexiondotorg: fyi ^^
[17:59] <Unit193> bluesabre: whisker 1.6.0 look important enough?
[17:59] <Unit193> https://mail.xfce.org/pipermail/xfce/2016-August/035152.html
[18:00] <bluesabre> Unit193: the changelog sounds good at least
[18:00] <flocculant> evening
[18:01] <bluesabre> hey flocculant
[18:01] <flocculant> bluesabre: just finished checking most of the iso's - seems like only us and mate with an issue 
[18:01] <bluesabre> :\
[18:01] <flocculant> yup
[18:02] <flocculant> that said - ubuntu will be rebuilt overnight and I'll check that tomorrow
[18:02] <bluesabre> k
[18:02] <flocculant> my installs are still dead though
[18:02] <Unit193> I thought US had a problem too?
[18:02] <flocculant> and guest login 
[18:02] <Unit193> flocculant: Also thanks for the warning, though I have a feeling it's too late.  I just won't reboot now. :3
[18:03] <flocculant> Unit193: probably - I rarely bother with that as it's loads big and if we're dead they usually are :)
[18:03] <flocculant> Unit193: good luck then :p
[18:03] <bluesabre> Unit193: time for max uptime
[18:04] <flocculant> I'm just glad I'd actually got around to sorting a xenial install out ... 
[18:05] <flocculant> bluesabre: even if ubuntu is ok - if we (and mate) are still broke monday - martin w is more likely to be around in -release :p
[18:05] <bluesabre> flocculant: indeed
[18:05] <flocculant> during uk day ofc
[18:05] <Unit193> Making a loooot of noise. :P
[18:05] <bluesabre> which is handy dandy
[18:05] <flocculant> :)
[18:05] <bluesabre> since I can't complain while UK folks are at work
[18:06] <flocculant> anyway - I'll obviously check again tomorrow morning and keep you updated on where we stand there
[18:06] <bluesabre> goodie
[18:06] <Unit193> flocculant: Going to poke at it in VM.
[18:06] <flocculant> I'm not even sure what package to report bug against :(
[18:06] <bluesabre> go for broke
[18:06] <flocculant> if I knew that I could start failing tracker 
[18:06] <bluesabre> "linux"
[18:07] <flocculant> I guess so :D
[18:07] <Unit193> 'ubuntu' :P
[18:07] <flocculant> ha ha ha 
[18:08] <Unit193> Meh, I suppose I should get the GTK3 whisker too.
[18:08] <flocculant> tracker tells people to report against syslinux if dead when booting live 
[18:08] <flocculant> Unit193: I saw that pop up :)
[18:09] <Unit193> Mir and lightdm updates, what could go wrong?
[18:09] <Unit193> Oh, kernel and systemd too..
[18:09] <bluesabre> all of the above
[18:10] <flocculant> "<pitti> Laney: ooh -- you mean THINGS really, like half of -proposed" "pitti> Friday evening is the BEST time to break yakkety"
[18:10] <Unit193> fwupd, gcc, binutils...  Yeah didn't hit those last night, I might be safe.
[18:11] <flocculant> Unit193: those were definitely in the updates that killed mine off 
[18:11] <flocculant> unless you actually read the pastebin and know that :D
[18:11] <Unit193> Yeah it could be any number of things. :D
[18:11] <flocculant> :)
[18:11] <Unit193> flocculant: I looked at it, but I didn't study it.
[18:12] <flocculant> I'll hold of on reporting it against some vague package till tomorrow - but if it's still the same I suppose anything is better than nothing
[18:13] <flocculant> bbl 
[18:14] <Unit193> I'm a bit wondering if it is a lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter mismatch.
[18:15] <flocculant> Unit193: is it only us and mate use those?
[18:16] <Unit193> flocculant: Well, Xu, US, Myth, MATE.  I'm not sure if Lu does this cycle.
[18:17] <flocculant> Myth is finished with iso's afaik 
[18:17] <flocculant> Lu worked - so perhaps not :)
[18:18] <flocculant> seems they do according to buildlog
[18:20] <flocculant> and there both same versions for us and them - so wasn't some update during day
[18:21] <Unit193> Still waiting on the VM, but glad it wasn't that.  Got the switch to a TTY or whatnot on upgrade, same as I had in Debian a couple days ago.
[18:22] <flocculant> anyway - bbl to see what you find 
[20:16] <flocculant> Unit193: see anything of note in vm?
[20:17] <Unit193> flocculant: Yeah, that systemd doesn't tell you much, I really miss upstart's logging to ~/.cache/upstart/.  I just bailed and went with my custom .xinitrc and startx. :P
[20:17] <flocculant> :)
[20:18] <flocculant> I'll have another go tomorrow
[20:18] <flocculant> for now - goodnight all