| brushdem- | install gentoo | 02:36 |
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| daftykins | ... | 02:36 |
| daftykins | sorry was that a response to someone asking "what would be really silly?" | 02:36 |
| === brushdem- is now known as brushemon | ||
| === brushemon is now known as brushdemon | ||
| ducasse | morning all | 06:23 |
| lotuspsychje | good morning to all | 07:39 |
| ducasse | \o lotuspsychje | 07:40 |
| lotuspsychje | ducasse: i had to reinstall the trusty to xenial box update | 07:40 |
| lotuspsychje | ducasse: totaly broken | 07:40 |
| ducasse | lotuspsychje: not that uncommon, it seems... | 07:40 |
| lotuspsychje | ducasse: new reinstall crashed on saving /home aswell so.. | 07:40 |
| lotuspsychje | had to install fresh | 07:41 |
| lotuspsychje | lets hope this was lasts 5 new years :p | 07:41 |
| lotuspsychje | ducasse: how are things in norway? | 07:42 |
| ducasse | i'm soon going to upgrade to yakkety, i never stay that long on one version :) | 07:42 |
| lotuspsychje | ducasse: wich stage is yakketty in now? | 07:43 |
| ducasse | alpha 1, i think. i usually wait until the first beta or so. | 07:43 |
| lotuspsychje | !yakkety | 07:43 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) will be the 25th release of Ubuntu. It is due to be released in October 2016. Discussion in #ubuntu+1 | 07:43 |
| lotuspsychje | ah october | 07:44 |
| lotuspsychje | !info linux-image-generic yakkety | 07:44 |
| ubot5 | linux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 4.4.0.9134.37 (yakkety), package size 2 kB, installed size 12 kB | 07:44 |
| ducasse | they're waiting for 4.8, i believe | 07:44 |
| lotuspsychje | ducasse: yeah ive read an article they wanna ditch 4.6 | 07:45 |
| lotuspsychje | im curious how unity 8 will develope | 07:47 |
| lotuspsychje | and thrilled about OTA 13 on phone | 07:47 |
| ducasse | i'm not too concerned about that, although the convergence thing would be nice | 07:48 |
| lotuspsychje | yeah | 07:49 |
| ducasse | i'd love a phone/tablet that could give me a full desktop when connected to a screen | 07:50 |
| ducasse | just wish that desktop wasn't unity ;) | 07:50 |
| lotuspsychje | that would be awesome | 07:50 |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 07:50 |
| lotuspsychje | ducasse: i really wish ubuntu would choose the way, users left more choices | 07:51 |
| ducasse | how do you mean? | 07:51 |
| lotuspsychje | ducasse: well you know like old linux setups, where you could choose kde or gnome etc | 07:51 |
| lotuspsychje | in the setup screen | 07:52 |
| lotuspsychje | imagine the tablet starts that way, leave the user the choice for window manager | 07:52 |
| lotuspsychje | or i3 :p | 07:53 |
| ducasse | the problem with that is that the tablets etc run mir, not x11 | 07:53 |
| lotuspsychje | yeah | 07:53 |
| ducasse | they _really_ should have gone with wayland, imho | 07:54 |
| lotuspsychje | but i saw a kde tablet project once | 07:54 |
| lotuspsychje | not sure if its still active | 07:54 |
| lotuspsychje | lemme lookup | 07:54 |
| ducasse | fedora 25 will run wayland, i read | 07:54 |
| lotuspsychje | https://plasma-mobile.org/ | 07:55 |
| lotuspsychje | would be so nice if ubuntu could be installed on every device | 07:56 |
| ducasse | intresting. have you seen this? http://hawaiios.org/ | 07:56 |
| lotuspsychje | lets c | 07:57 |
| lotuspsychje | screens look delicious | 07:57 |
| ducasse | it looks really nice, i don't know how ready it is. | 07:58 |
| ducasse | there will probably be many options soon. | 07:58 |
| ducasse | more promising news: http://www.pcworld.com/article/3109327/hardware/let-the-cpu-wars-begin-amd-shows-its-zen-cpu-can-compete-with-intels-best.html | 07:59 |
| lotuspsychje | vivaldi kde tablet has been depraced.. | 07:59 |
| lotuspsychje | cool | 07:59 |
| ducasse | have you tried vivaldi btw? been using it for a couple of days, i like it. | 08:02 |
| lotuspsychje | yeah ive tested the other day | 08:02 |
| lotuspsychje | not bad, but prefer my chromium | 08:03 |
| ducasse | i'm still trying to decide, but i'll probably go back to firefox. stuck with it since the days of netscape navigator. | 08:04 |
| lotuspsychje | https://insights.ubuntu.com/2016/08/04/how-the-m10-tablet-can-save-you-luggage-space/ | 08:04 |
| lotuspsychje | ducasse: yeah netscape was nice, but surely vurlernable as hell by now | 08:05 |
| lotuspsychje | i wonder why they so proud about the Bq m10 tablet when stopped the bq phones to sell... | 08:05 |
| ducasse | hehe, i wouldn't be running that or mosaic today, no :) | 08:06 |
| lotuspsychje | thats really bad news for my business | 08:06 |
| ducasse | otoh, there was a lot less in netscape that could be exploited, no js etc. | 08:06 |
| lotuspsychje | ZTE also announced users want android over linux on devices | 08:07 |
| lotuspsychje | ducasse: also true, was more back to basic | 08:07 |
| lotuspsychje | but still you hear alot of exploits existing for the old style browsers like opera etc | 08:08 |
| brushdemon | simpler tools had simpler hacks | 08:09 |
| lotuspsychje | true | 08:09 |
| brushdemon | more sophisticated tools have similar hacks however there is a larger footprint and more potential for exploits | 08:10 |
| ducasse | if only flash would finally die... | 08:10 |
| lotuspsychje | and more users using an app, more chance of hackers finding mass exploits | 08:10 |
| brushdemon | well that would get rid of a few million issues :p | 08:10 |
| brushdemon | that's also true | 08:11 |
| lotuspsychje | http://news.softpedia.com/news/new-blackarch-linux-iso-lands-with-over-1-500-penetration-testing-hacking-tools-507485.shtml | 08:13 |
| ducasse | lotuspsychje: i wonder how big a market there really is for ubuntu phones. most people who would want one are probably enthusiasts and hobbyists. | 08:14 |
| lotuspsychje | ducasse: the only problem is the most wanted android apps everyone else uses | 08:14 |
| lotuspsychje | and users dont search for security | 08:15 |
| ducasse | lotuspsychje: yep, it would need some big name apps to have a chance in the bigger market. | 08:15 |
| lotuspsychje | ducasse: but i can convince users, by telling how vurlnerable android is | 08:16 |
| ducasse | there will be vulnerabilities for ubuntu phones as well. | 08:16 |
| lotuspsychje | probably, but they will be handled much faster | 08:16 |
| ducasse | that's true, the android update system is horrible. | 08:17 |
| ducasse | well, it doesn't really exist at all. | 08:17 |
| lotuspsychje | users dont mind security, until one day they personal pics are gone or shared | 08:17 |
| lotuspsychje | when reality comes too close.. | 08:18 |
| lotuspsychje | i helped few customers with stalkin/wifi issues in the past | 08:18 |
| lotuspsychje | http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/08/zte-rejects-ubuntu-phone-proposal-says-buyers-dont-want-non-android-devices | 08:24 |
| lotuspsychje | bah | 08:24 |
| ducasse | well, i wouldn't want a china-made phone anyway :) | 08:27 |
| lotuspsychje | meizu is chinese | 08:27 |
| lotuspsychje | but if its broken and you have to send back to china : | | 08:28 |
| lotuspsychje | if one day ubuntu-touch will be installable on more devices itl get interesting | 08:30 |
| ducasse | the m10 looks really nice, though. making it possible to install ubuntu on more devices would be a good way to get more users. | 08:31 |
| BluesKaj | 'Morning folks | 11:44 |
| ducasse | \o | 11:44 |
| ducasse | how are you today, BluesKaj? | 11:45 |
| BluesKaj | Hi ducasse. I'm fine, and you? | 11:45 |
| ducasse | fine, thanks. raining heavily here, the cat and i are holed up indoors :) | 11:46 |
| BluesKaj | yeah , we had terrble thunderstorms last night, went to bed with flashlights because our electricity went out about 4 times, it's back on now, but we still have storm clouds | 12:05 |
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| Dodge29_ | hey | 23:47 |
| daftykins | \o | 23:50 |
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