[00:42] <Guest73476> @noste99 how can i fix the problem with "welcome"?
[05:20] <biax> how do i uninstall some default preinstalled software?
[05:26] <netvixtra> !apt
[05:26] <ubottu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome), !Muon (KDE) or !Apper (KDE)
[05:42] <mate|51664> Hello! I have an issue with mate. The fonts i see at some places is poor. Here is an example: In the appearance settings...http://imgur.com/a/3ypyg
[05:43] <mate|51664> http://imgur.com/NSTEPAa
[05:43] <mate|51664> Can anyone please help?
[05:44] <mate|51664> Take a look on the fonts in the open button. I am on ubuntu mate.\
[05:45] <mate|51664> Anyone?
[05:47] <mate|51664> Anyone there?
[05:56] <mate|51664> can ayone help?
[05:59] <mate|51664> HELP PLEASE
[05:59] <mate|51664> 88 users !!! COMMON
[06:03] <netvixtra> intel gfx?
[06:05] <mate|51664> yeah
[06:06] <mate|51664> netvixtra=^
[06:10] <mate|51664> so?
[06:27] <mate|51664> anyone
[06:28] <mate|51664> damn
[07:41] <mate|32899> Hello. Which version of Ubuntu Mate should I install on https://www.msi.com/Laptop/U270.html#hero-specification ?
[07:43] <ouroumov_> hello mate|32899
[07:44] <ouroumov_> mate|32899, 16.04 amd64 should do it, you have the machine already?
[07:45] <mate|32899> ouroumov_: I've got it in the room.
[07:46] <mate|32899> ouroumov_: It will be for traveling usage, because of small screen.
[07:46] <ouroumov_> mate|32899, how much RAM does it have? 4GB?
[07:47] <mate|32899> ouroumov_:  8GB
[07:47] <ouroumov_> So yeah, 16.04 amd64
[07:48] <mate|32899> But is processor strong enough for 64-bit version?
[07:48] <ouroumov_> Seeing the specs says it's supposed to run Windows 8, yes
[07:51] <ouroumov_> That msi specs page is freaking useless btw
[07:51] <ouroumov_> Why can't they write the actual processor model or amount of RAM?
[07:52] <ouroumov_> If you want to collect exact specs for your machine, boot into the live session from you Ubuntu MATE USB stick then run the command "inxi -ACDSMNGI" in a terminal
[07:53] <mate|32899> ouroumov: OK, thank You.
[08:31] <rangergord> Hi. I'm trying to install Ubuntu MATE 16.04.1 in VBox 5.1.4 on a Windows 8 laptop. Default VM options. The installer works fine, I can even load the Try/LiveCD OS and get a high-res desktop, but if I install, this is what I get early during boot: https://i.imgur.com/EMSFDyU.png   . If I press CTRL+ALT+F1, I can switch to a terminal prompt, then I can "sudo startx" to load the desktop. How
[08:31] <rangergord> do I fix the boot sequence?
[08:33] <ouroumov_> ehm
[08:33] <rangergord> What I've tried: installing VMware guest additions, which should provide better graphics intergration. When I did this, the boot sequence goes further, up to the point where I have to log in. When I do this, the screen flickers, and I'm returned to the login prompt. I also can't use CTRL+ALT+F1 to go to a console anymore, I get a white screen.
[08:34] <rangergord> yeah :/
[08:34] <ouroumov_> hm, I think that login loop problem has been encountered by a few users on the forum.
[08:34] <ouroumov_> I think it had something to do with an .XAuthority file
[08:34] <ouroumov_> https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/login-manager-issue/7803/4
[08:34] <rangergord> thank you, checking it out
[08:35] <ouroumov_> Problem is dude used tty1 to remove it
[08:35] <ouroumov_> Not sure how you would do the same since you can't
[08:35] <ouroumov_> Maybe boot into recovery mode?
[08:36] <rangergord> looking that up now
[08:38] <rangergord> . /home/me/.XAuthority is indeed owned by root. But I can't change it from recoveyr mode, it says it's a ready-only FS
[08:39] <rangergord> lots of files there are owned by root. ~/.ICEAuthority, .gvfs, .dbus
[08:39] <rangergord> (last 2 are dirs, I know)
[08:39] <rangergord> ah nm, found out how to remount
[08:39] <rangergord> just wondering, why would this happen to me, and not everyone else? aren't we all using the same iso?
[08:41] <ouroumov_> rangergord, I don't know why, I was also affected a while back as I said in the thread, but I don't remember what triggered it, anyway it's rare.
[08:41] <ouroumov_> So let's remount your drive read write for starters
[08:41] <ouroumov_> Identify the drive by running df -h ~
[08:42] <ouroumov_> s/drive/partition
[08:42] <rangergord> already did it, we'll know in a sec :)
[08:42] <ouroumov_> oh, ok
[08:43] <rangergord> I have unbalanced Linux knowledge. I'm a casual user, and don't try to learn it just for the sake of it, but when I do learn something (df, chown), I remember them
[08:43] <rangergord> this is new territory
[08:43] <rangergord> yeah I can boot now. Got error dialogs about those other root-owned files (ICEauhority), I'll chown them now
[08:44] <ouroumov_> Yeah you should
[08:44] <ouroumov_> I don't know where that ownership problem comes but it's a Pita
[08:44] <rangergord> ah, dammit, I still can't access tty1, it's just a white screen. and i cant open the terminal due to .config being owned by root. I'll go back to recovery mode.
[08:44] <ouroumov_> All files in my $HOME are owned by me on the machines I have at hand
[08:44] <rangergord> ouroumov: idk either. I can reproduce it 100%. I installed the OS 4 times since yesterday.
[08:44] <rangergord> hoping for a different result
[08:45] <rangergord> the only things I did different, that others might not have done, is: a) no swap partition (gave it 2GB RAM though), b) a single / partition that takes up the whole disk
[08:45] <rangergord> my next attempt was gonna try with swap enabled
[08:45] <ouroumov_> hm
[08:46] <ouroumov_> Why don't you use the default "erase disk and install" ?
[08:47] <rangergord> cause I think it would've assigned a few GB of swap, and I'm on a tiny SSD with limited disk space
[08:47] <rangergord> hey...you know what, I'll do it right now. Start over. At least this way we'll know if that was the reason, or if the ISO is borked
[08:47] <rangergord> I'll just click Next at every step of the installer
[08:48] <rangergord> you'll have an ansewr in 30 mins :)
[08:48] <ouroumov_> hm but use "erase disk and install" that's not default I think
[08:48] <rangergord> I'll erase the disk then
[08:48] <ouroumov_> It would be great to know the cause for this, then we could do a bug report
[08:49] <ouroumov_> I'm not sure against what to file the bug though, the ubiquity installer?
[08:50] <rangergord> idk...but with steps gauranteed to reproduce it, someone more knowledgeable can figure it out
[08:50] <ouroumov_> I'm gonna get the iso and install in a VM myself, it might take a while though
[08:50] <rangergord> OK. One other thing I did: I went in the VM's network settings, and set the network cable to unplugged.
[08:51] <rangergord> not saying this will matter, but just so you have the same config as me. otherwise, straightforward VM
[08:51] <ouroumov_> yeah but my version of virtualbox is not the same
[08:52] <rangergord> I'm using the latest
[08:52] <ouroumov_> current stable in 16.04.1 is 5.0.18
[08:52] <rangergord> but it was the same on the  previous version (5.1.2), I only updated to see if it made a difference
[08:52] <rangergord> ah
[08:52] <rangergord> actually...I'm pretty sure I had 5.0.something a few days ago when I first did this. You might still hit the bug.
[08:53] <rangergord> tbh I don't think the VBox version will matter
[08:53] <ouroumov_> ok
[08:53] <rangergord> no, sorry, I didn't have 5.0 initially. I mean, I did, but I updated last week, before my 1st attempt to install Ubuntu MATE
[08:55] <ouroumov_> Starting VM and installing now
[08:55] <ouroumov_> oh crap I forgot to set the number of CPUs
[08:56] <rangergord> no worries, it just uses 1 by default
[08:56] <ouroumov_> I know, I don't like that default :D
[08:56] <rangergord> you picked 64-bit, right?
[08:56] <ouroumov_> Yes
[08:57] <ouroumov_> aw crap the installer is reporting BIOS problems
[08:58] <rangergord> that's weird...VBOx is as compatible as can be
[08:59] <rangergord> yep, I got a working desktop
[09:00] <ouroumov_> I rebooted the VM and it ignored the bios problem this time, proceeding to install
[09:00] <ouroumov_> You used "erase disk and install" and got a working desktop?
[09:01] <rangergord> yes. so it could be the lack of swap in my previous attempts? But I had 2GB of RAM, and it's just an installer?
[09:02] <ouroumov_> I had to restart again, default disk size was insufficient, I'm gonna mimic your partition layout when I finally manage to install
[09:03] <rangergord> Pick a 15GB disk, but make it dynamic. It'll only use however much the installer needs.
[09:03] <rangergord> (since you're only testing. fixed size disks are slightly more performant for every day use)
[09:07] <rangergord> i tend to avoid swap because I have more RAM than I can use, but little SSD disk space
[09:07] <rangergord> I'm going to eat lunch, bbl
[09:08] <rangergord> good luck, and thank you for your help!
[09:08] <ouroumov_> rangergord,
[09:08] <ouroumov_> ok
[09:08] <ouroumov_> have a nice lunch and so on
[09:08] <ouroumov_> ^^
[10:01] <ouroumov_> rangergord, guess what: https://i.imgur.com/Mt4JTaH.png
[10:14] <rangergord> ouroumov: glad you could reproduce it
[10:15] <ouroumov_> rangergord, except I don't know how to install guest additions to get past this
[10:15] <rangergord> why did you want to? Even when I got past it, tty1 was dead forever, remember?
[10:16] <ouroumov_> Oh right
[10:17] <rangergord> but for the sake of completeness: CTRL+ALT+F1 to open, then sudo startx. First open a terminal and "apt-get build-essential module-assistant", then run "m-a prepare". Then in VBox click Devices > Install Guest Additions. This will auto-insert a CDRom, and prompt you to auto-run. Accept. Then when it finishes, reboot.
[10:17] <rangergord> but once you do this, tty1 is gone, it's just a white screen
[10:18] <rangergord> (remember to reconnect the network cable before apt-get)
[10:20] <rangergord> can I make MATE have a searchable menu, like cinammon/?
[10:20] <ouroumov_> Except I can't switch to tty1, I'm not on Windows so that key combo switch my host to tty1
[10:21] <ouroumov_> Also the VM refused to release my mouse and keyboard, I had to kill it
[10:21] <rangergord> haha, OK. Sorry then. But you got the main bug down.
[10:21] <rangergord> what now?
[10:22] <ouroumov_> I'm gonna try to boot to recovery see the state of xauthority
[10:22] <ouroumov_> What's the GRUB shortcut again? Esc? Shift?
[10:22] <rangergord> hold shift during boot
[10:22] <ouroumov_> I got it, esc
[10:22] <ouroumov_> Well it's esc for French layouts
[10:23] <rangergord> ah, t'es francais?
[10:23] <rangergord> j'aime vraiment pas le layout de vos claviers
[10:23] <ouroumov_> Oui. :)
[10:23] <ouroumov_> Moi j'y suis habitué, mais je vois ce que tu veux dire.
[10:24] <rangergord> je suis du Quebec
[10:24] <ouroumov_> So rangergord I don't have any .Xauthority file in my $HOME
[10:24] <rangergord> are you checking root's home, or /home/someuser?
[10:25] <ouroumov_>  /home/me
[10:25] <rangergord> so you have the same problem, but no .Xauthority? huh
[10:25] <rangergord> is anything in /home/me owned by root?
[10:26] <ouroumov_> No: https://i.imgur.com/6dMRvAG.png
[10:28] <rangergord> I had a lot more files than that in my home. where's your .dbus, .ICEAuthority, etc? I have them even on my working install. Maybe they were only created when I went to tty1 and logged in normally.
[10:28] <rangergord> ie first login
[10:28] <ouroumov_> I didn't actually managed to login yet
[10:30] <rangergord> https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=13488
[10:30] <rangergord> try this to get to tty1
[10:32] <ouroumov_> Didn't work
[10:33] <ouroumov_> All it did is zoom on the irregularity on the left
[10:33] <ouroumov_> That happens to be the name of the machine, btw
[10:33] <rangergord> ok
[10:34] <rangergord> hey, do you know how i can replace the default MATE menu button (top left) with the Advanced one? I can add an Advanced Menu, but then I can't move it to the left of Applications/Places/System + quick launch bar.
[10:36] <rahtgaz> rangergord: right click the normal menu and unset 'lock to panel'
[10:36] <ouroumov_> rangergord, you gotta unlock the menu from panel, so you can remove / move it
[10:37] <rangergord> ah, the old menu and applications/places/system are a single item...
[10:37] <rangergord> thanks
[10:39] <mykey0815> I have installed ubuntu-mate 15.04 on a WETEK MK808B Plus Stick (http://freaktab.com/forum/tv-player-support/amlogic-based-tv-players/s805/others-ab/520884-ubuntu-14-04-and-15-04-on-mk808b-plus)  - I have create a symlink from "/var/lib/backuppc" to a external UBS-Drive ("/HDD/backuppc").  "ls -l /var/lib/backuppc" brings up "lrwxrwxrwx 1 backuppc root 26 Aug 12 07:56 /var/lib/backuppc -> /HDD/backuppc". Bu
[10:40] <ouroumov_> mykey0815, Ubuntu MATE 15.04 is no longer supported.
[10:40] <ouroumov_> Please update to 16.04
[10:44] <ouroumov_> rangergord, after startx from recovery I now have .Xauthority, but it's not owned by root
[10:46] <ouroumov_> rangergord, can you file a bug report on launchpad for the first issue?
[10:46] <rangergord> ouroumov: where on launchpad?
[10:46] <ouroumov_> My guess would be here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mate
[10:47] <ouroumov_> Since we don't know the package and we don't know if other flavors are affected
[10:47] <rangergord> ok, will do
[10:48] <ouroumov_> Also put the link of your screenshot in the report
[10:48] <ouroumov_> I'll put my screenshot too after marking myself as affected
[10:49] <rangergord> I'll attach it, no?
[10:50] <ouroumov_> I guess that works too
[10:50] <rahtgaz> Share the link here afterwards please. I've just arrived and have no idea what you are talking about :)
[10:51] <ouroumov_> rahtgaz, https://paste.debian.net/hidden/a4cecf26/
[10:51] <rahtgaz> thanks
[10:52] <rangergord> will take a little while, I gotta go through the installer to remember what the command names were
[10:58] <ouroumov_> oh
[10:58] <ouroumov_> CTRL+F1 switched to tty1
[10:59] <ouroumov_> Erf, but X won't start
[10:59] <mykey0815> Is that fixed in 16.04?
[10:59] <ouroumov_> Oh wait
[10:59] <ouroumov_> Sudo startx worked
[10:59] <mykey0815> I dont know, I MK808 can use 16.04
[11:00] <ouroumov_> mykey0815, I don't know, I've never seen your problem, and I don't want to read that three-kilometers-long thread
[11:01] <ouroumov_> rahtgaz, I still have that weird graphical bug
[11:01] <ouroumov_> after reboot
[11:02] <mykey0815> My problem is, that the symlink is set and I think it works - but the "free space" on "/dev/root" (the external is /dev/sda1) is more and more decrement
[11:04] <ouroumov_> mykey0815, more and more decrement?
[11:06] <rahtgaz> ouroumov_: Not sure I know what's going on with that problem. To be honest, as far as VMs are concerned; I never thought much of VMBox on Windows hosts despite being great on Linux. And I don't think this is a Ubuntu-MATE problem. The VM is probably borking the installation process and resulting in that mess
[11:07] <rangergord> rahtgaz: with swap enabled, the OS installs fine. Why would VBox care what Ubuntu does with its disk and RAM?
[11:07] <rangergord> it's only when SWAP is disable that I can reproduce it
[11:07] <rangergord> (ie, no swap partition during install)
[11:07] <rangergord> I can't try it natively, because I'm traveling and all I have is my Windows laptop
[11:08] <rangergord> I can't risk a native install at this time
[11:08] <ouroumov_> rangergord, after switching to tty1 and doing "sudo systemctl restart lightdm.service" I get this: https://imgur.com/a/rqkfd
[11:09] <rangergord> hmm
[11:09] <ouroumov_> I think I might have accidentally switched on accessibility settings during a previous boot
[11:10] <ouroumov_> Yeah that was it
[11:11] <mykey0815> ouroumov, yes. I have running backuppc as software on this stick. And when I start a backup then the files will write on the harddisk, but the result of "df" show me that the files write on "/"
[11:11] <rahtgaz> rangergord: the problem is that Ubuntu installs just fine with swap disabled as a host. Hence why I am being suspicious of VBOx intentions. As a shot in the dark, have you tried with a dynamic disk?
[11:12] <rahtgaz> I mean without a dynamic disk
[11:12] <rangergord> rahtgaz: I did it with both a fixed disk and a dynamic disk
[11:12]  * rahtgaz nods
[11:12] <ouroumov_> mykey0815, when you say backuppc do you mean the Ubuntu backup utility (Déjà Dup) ?
[11:12] <rangergord> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mate/+bug/1615363
[11:12] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1615363 in ubuntu-mate "Installing with no swap partition results in corrupted system, despite having high RAM" [Undecided,New]
[11:13] <rangergord> did i do this right?
[11:13] <ouroumov_> rangergord, can you update the title with "virtualbox" instead of writing that in the description?
[11:14] <ouroumov_> rangergord, also specify the amount of RAM in the steps to reproduce (2GB I used, as you said)
[11:14] <ouroumov_> (And the thing about disabling network)
[11:15] <rangergord> done
[11:15] <rangergord> I mentioned the network bit to make things faster, it happens regardless of network state
[11:15] <rangergord> updated to include RAM
[11:16] <rahtgaz> I can't unfortunately add my name to the affected because I have no way of reproducing this. No windows host here. But good luck
[11:16] <ouroumov_> rahtgaz, I reproduced this using Ubuntu MATE as host
[11:16] <rangergord> all done
[11:17] <rangergord> ouroumov: let me know if anything's missing
[11:17] <rahtgaz> Oh! that's a whole new game then, ouroumov_
[11:17] <rahtgaz> you guys may be right then
[11:17] <rahtgaz> I'll do it later today
[11:17] <mykey0815> ouroumov, no i mean the sourceforge software "backuppc"
[11:18] <rahtgaz> in fact let me do it now
[11:19] <rangergord> rahtgaz: if you got an SSD you can reproduce it in less than 15 mins, most of it unattended :)
[11:19] <rahtgaz> no ssd here. but i'm patient :)
[11:20] <rangergord> if you get a chance to get one, do it! it'll feel like you just jumped 10 years into the future, in terms of PC performance
[11:20] <rahtgaz> I'll use 16.04 instead of the 01 point release, to add some flavour. Although I expect that won't matter
[11:20] <rangergord> good idea
[11:25] <ouroumov_> rangergord, I marked myself as affected and posted a comment.
[11:26] <rangergord> cheers
[11:27] <ouroumov_> That warrants a brew.
[11:28] <rangergord> yep. thanks again for the support
[11:29] <ouroumov_> yw
[11:29] <ouroumov_> mykey0815, maybe that's the component responsible for the problem then
[11:34] <rahtgaz> it's a weird symlink, mykey0815. As is a strange path /HDD isn't GHS compliant at all
[11:34] <rahtgaz> s/GHS/FHS
[11:37] <rahtgaz> installing...
[11:37] <mykey0815> rahtgaz, when I rename from "/HDD/backuppc" to "/hdd/backuppc" that shoulb be go?
[11:38] <rahtgaz> err... why are you doing that link?
[11:40] <mykey0815> rahtgaz, the application is installed on the system via apt-get. But the root-device is a 16GB SDCard. The Datapool for my Backups should be stored on the 4TB-USB-Harddisk. So I have make the symlink via "ln -s ..."
[11:41] <rahtgaz> yes, but removable devices should got to /media/yourusername/devicename
[11:41] <mykey0815> normaly the datapool directory is /var/lib/backuppc - now it should be /HDD/backkuppc
[11:42] <rahtgaz> alright. I'm just guessing here. Sorry mykey0815. I just don't know that tool at all
[11:43] <rahtgaz> Ubuntu-MATE install really could do with a software selection screen like in the old days. the time I have to wait for it to install stuff I delete  right after boot... :p
[11:44] <ouroumov_> You mean the debian interface? x)
[11:44] <rahtgaz> aye
[11:44] <ouroumov_> That would scare off newbies
[11:44] <rahtgaz> and there's also so much stuff that could be installed at a later date. like gimp and so forth...
[11:45] <rahtgaz> yeah. I understand.
[11:45] <ouroumov_> I don't think GIMP is installed by default in 16.04
[11:52] <rahtgaz> can't reproduce on the 16.04 image
[11:52] <ouroumov_> rahtgaz, interesting
[11:52] <rahtgaz> got a perfect login screen. a sec
[11:52] <ouroumov_> You used the same partition layout, yeah?
[11:53] <rahtgaz> yes. full primary partition on /
[11:53] <ouroumov_> no swap?
[11:53] <ouroumov_> 2GB RAM?
[11:54] <rahtgaz> Just collecting some more data for you guys, a sec
[11:58] <ouroumov_> rangergord, I edited name of your attachment: this is not the MATE login screen, it's probably the LightDM login
[11:59] <rahtgaz> 1.7 GB RAM; no swap naturally (that's the whole point); did enable PAE/NX on the processor tab (always do);
[11:59] <rahtgaz> sorry had to afk
[12:00] <rahtgaz> I can share the settings file if that matters
[12:00] <rangergord> ouroumov: ok, no problem
[12:00] <ouroumov_> rahtgaz, I enabled PAE but it didn't change anything
[12:01] <rangergord> I can't download 16.04 to test, I'm on a cellular connection
[12:01] <rahtgaz> I haven't either change anything either other than that
[12:01] <mykey0815> rahtgaz, thanks for the important tip: the usb device is mounted automatic as /media/usb0 - I dont need a extra mountpoint (/HDD/backuppc) for it - Now it works fine
[12:01] <rahtgaz> glad to help mykey0815
[12:02] <ouroumov_> rahtgaz, can you comment on the bug that you can't reproduce on 16.04?
[12:02] <ouroumov_> rahtgaz, also can you check on 16.04.1 too?
[12:02] <ouroumov_> I don't have 16.04 either and I'm on a crap wifi
[12:03] <rahtgaz> yes. I will. But can't download the 16.04.01. would eat through my monthly plan :(
[12:03] <ouroumov_> ah crap
[12:03] <rahtgaz> yeah
[12:04] <ouroumov_> lol we don't have a decent connection among the three of us
[12:04] <rangergord> hehe
[12:04] <rangergord> you're not in France?
[12:04] <rangergord> oh, right, crap wifi
[12:04] <rangergord> nm
[12:04] <ouroumov_> I am, but I'm using a free wifi cause I'm in student housings xD
[12:05] <rahtgaz> I'm in Angola. That's 170 USD for a 2GB plan. Nuts!
[12:05] <ouroumov_> ugh
[12:05] <rangergord> and to think, back home, I sometimes download a movie I already have because I don't feel like getting up and copying it from the laptop
[12:05] <ouroumov_> haha
[12:05] <rangergord> rahtgaz: ouch. do you get your ISOs from a school?
[12:06] <rangergord> like how'd you get 16.04
[12:06] <rahtgaz> I'm portuguese. Just here as a volunteer. I get most of my stuff from Portugal. However I do get to 10GB on a discount some months. This isn't one of those months.
[12:07] <rangergord> rahtgaz: cool, what are you volunteering in?
[12:07] <rangergord> also, hope you configured your browser to block ads, not auto-play videos, maybe even NoScript. Modern websites are huge.
[12:07] <rahtgaz> education. Used to be a software developer. stopped some 5 years ago. Now I teach math and physics
[12:08] <rahtgaz> rangergord: yeah. I have it all covered :)
[12:08] <rangergord> that's nice
[12:08] <rangergord> were people in Angola cheering for Portugal at the Euro?
[12:09] <rangergord> *Euros
[12:09] <rahtgaz> sure. although with the way we played this euro, there's was much criticism too
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[14:03] <shaun> hey guys, I'm new here and to ubuntu-mate, I've been using Ubuntu for a long time and wanted to give this a try and its amazing. I've got a couple of questions, I'm so used to maximizing and minimizing windows with the Super_L and arrow keys which also promotes tiling (both vertical and horizontal), but that doesn't work (default) in ubuntu-mate. Any suggestions on how I would go about enabling that?
[14:04] <ihor> hi I'm wondering how to change the color of the mate panel
[14:17] <shaun> any ideas for tiling guys?
[14:34] <neoack> hi
[14:34] <neoack> Sorry but i need some help
[14:36] <neoack> i m ubuntu but no sound my driver is alc282 and i follow ubutnu process but i dont know how model with option snd-had-intel
[14:40] <neoack> nobody ?
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[19:00] <mickael> hello
[19:11] <n0b0dy> hi all
[19:12] <n0b0dy> one body help me i sound trouble in ubutun my card is ALC282 , i have sound by jack but no speaker
[19:14] <n0b0dy> ?
[19:26] <n0b0dy> some help ?
[19:26] <ouroumov_> hi n0b0dy
[19:26] <n0b0dy> hi
[19:26] <ouroumov_> Have you checked the Sound preferences, hardware tab to see if you have multiple hardware outputs?
[19:26] <n0b0dy> i trouble with sound alc282 in my ubuntu 16.04
[19:27] <n0b0dy> yes i have 3 hardward. but i use internal because with jack sound is ok by this way
[19:28] <ouroumov_> Have you asked on the forums about this?
[19:28] <n0b0dy> yes in french forum ans no solution for this time
[19:30] <ouroumov_> I don't see your post: https://ubuntu-mate.community/c/multilingual/french
[19:31] <n0b0dy> https://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=21575528#p21575528
[19:31] <n0b0dy> this my post
[19:32] <ouroumov_> Yeah I think you should post on the Ubuntu MATE forums, in English
[19:35] <n0b0dy> hum ok i try but my level in english is bad lol il try ty
[19:35] <ouroumov_> n0b0dy, in your post provide the output of "inxi -A"
[19:37] <n0b0dy> ok http://pastebin.com/B5yUM8Nd
[19:38] <ouroumov_> Also mention what you tried before
[19:38] <n0b0dy> ok
[22:30] <CrazyDesi> I posted this on the forums a little while ago, but is there any possibility anyone wants to implement a tiling window manager as an option for mate tweak?
[22:37] <swift110> https://swift110.wordpress.com/2013/08/09/how-to-get-sued-by-apple/