[00:00] <GEEMac> reisio, Not sure what you mean.  I ran it from the nividia settings in system tools/admin
[00:01] <GEEMac> ]Sorry my rensponces are a bit slow my hands are messed up so I type slow with the usual typos...
[00:01] <ikonia> I think the wrong planet play time is over now that they have been beaten, I guess things can return to normal, sorry for the noise
[00:02] <reisio> GEEMac: and you got the res you wanted and saved a copy of the configuration to /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[00:02] <GEEMac> Plus I havent gotten to making the font size larger yet for this TV.
[00:03] <GEEMac> reisio,  apparently it saved to the xorg.conf, just not reading it on boot
[00:03] <reisio> GEEMac: like before X starts?
[00:03] <GEEMac> reisio, the pastebin is what I have here
[00:04] <reisio> doesn't answer my question
[00:05] <GEEMac> reisio,  not sure what you mean before x starts.
[00:05] <GEEMac> let me look at the conf again]
[00:05] <reisio> GEEMac: is the problem only before you login to Unity?
[00:05] <owen1> i used unetbootin on 15.10 to create installation of 16.04 but i see 'syslinux 6.03 edd boot error'. google lead me to some interesting results about incompatibilities but i didn't understand them. can someone explain how to create a bootable usb for 16.04? thanks!
[00:06] <owen1> btw, the target laptop is older that my current one in case it matters.
[00:06] <GEEMac> reisio,  all is well until it shows the desktop then it goes to 720p instead of 1080i
[00:07] <reisio> GEEMac: how exactly do you tell it's at 1080p before the desktop is there?
[00:07] <GEEMac> reisio,  I would take a guess that it is booting in 720 from the start right to the main desktop
[00:07] <reisio> owen1: could just use dd instead of unetbootin, you need only be careful
[00:08] <GEEMac> reisio,  that is where I have to go to the term to do the xrandr
[00:08] <reisio> GEEMac: kay...
[00:08] <reisio> GEEMac: a simple hack would be to put your xrandr line in your autostart stuff
[00:08] <owen1> reisio: i have no idea what dd means but yeah i heard it's scary. i prefer to stay away from scary things (:
[00:09] <GEEMac> Crazy thing is that I did not have that issue with 14.04 until I did the upgrade from the pop-up and it went down hill from there so I just did a clean install of 16.04.
[00:10] <GEEMac> reisio, where sould I find the auto start script to place that in? And why all of a sudden is 16.04 doing this? a Bug?
[00:11] <GEEMac> I was good from 12.x to 14.04
[00:12] <reisio> owen1: it's no scary, it's just a tool that can be improperly used
[00:12] <GEEMac> reisio, I'm completely lost with adding a script to auto start.
[00:12] <reisio> GEEMac: all of a sudden? It used to work with 16.04?
[00:13] <GEEMac> reisio, never worked here since I did the 16.04 upgrade to the fresh install.  Alll was working fine with 14.04.
[00:13] <GEEMac> I hate to have to go backwards.
[00:14] <reisio> okay, so the answer to that is: you upgraded, and nvidia prefers crappy proprietary drivers
[00:14] <reisio> what's the graphics device?
[00:15] <GEEMac> reisio,  old Nivida 7050.  Crazy thing is that it will boot to 1080 in VGA mode but not HDMI.
[00:15] <GEEMac> reisio, Apparently 16.04 does not support older graphics without forcing the res.
[00:16] <reisio> GEEMac: newer you mean?...
[00:17] <GEEMac> reisio,  The TV is talking to the computer.  it reports the res when you do a xrandr in either VGA or HDMI
[00:18] <GEEMac> reisio, Nivida 7050 is an old series.  It is built into the MB
[00:18] <reisio> GEEMac: do you recall what driver version you were using with 14?
[00:18] <Megalex> when you see ip addresses and they have /8 /24 after it, what does that number represent?
[00:19] <reisio> Megalex: http://networkengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/3697/the-slash-after-an-ip-address-cidr-notation
[00:19] <GEEMac> reisio,  Now if the Raspbery Pi 3 I have here would run Netflix and other protected formats I woould have ditched this old comp.  I use Kodi here and the main purpose is this is my HTPC for the TV.
[00:20] <GEEMac> reisio, Same driver as I am using now.  304.x tested version
[00:20] <reisio> GEEMac: same xorg.conf?
[00:20] <GEEMac> reisio,  Apparently  16.04 has an issue remembering or reading the saved settings.
[00:21] <reisio> I doubt it
[00:21] <reisio> GEEMac: same xorg.conf?
[00:21] <GEEMac> reisio,  No sadly when I upgraded I never thought of saving the xorg.conf. so 16.04 trashed it
[00:22] <owen1> reisio: so dd can replace unetbootin and also solve the 'syslinux 6.03 edd boot error'?
[00:22] <reisio> you might try using nvidia's .run installer, instead of Ubuntu's builtin
[00:22] <reisio> owen1: I'd definitely give it a try
[00:22] <reisio> owen1: the syntax is like so: sudo dd if=/path/to/install/image of=/dev/foo# (where the value of 'of=' should, importantly, not be incorrect)
[00:23] <reisio> you can get it from sudo lsblk -f
[00:23] <reisio> and other ways
[00:23] <owen1> reisio: sweet
[00:24] <reisio> dd also produces no output during copy except in very recent versions, so if you want to see that you can open _another_ term, run 'while true; do kill -USR1 $(pgrep -x dd); sleep 10s; done' and then _look at the original term_
[00:25] <Fione> Hi
[00:25] <GEEMac> reisio,  the main problem is that Nivida configured the res properly, just 16.04 is not reading it or finding the xorg.conf.  Did you see the pastebin of the file?  1920x1080 is there .  I keep reading in all the old posts is that Ubuntu doeas not read the xorg.conf anymore. There is nothing new on this issue even setting Google to past year in the search.  all old stuff
[00:25] <owen1> reisio: very nice. i'll try it
[00:25] <reisio> GEEMac: it does, if it's present
[00:26] <reisio> it merely doesn't ordinarily _require_ it anymore
[00:26] <GEEMac> There was a way some time ago to add the xrandr statement to rc. something.  I can't find that anymore.
[00:26] <reisio> you'd want to add it to Unity's/GNOME's autostart
[00:27] <reisio> https://help.ubuntu.com/16.04/ubuntu-help/startup-applications.html
[00:27] <GEEMac> reisio,   I guess that should have been left alone.  If it is not brok don't fix it (or replace it with something not documented)
[00:27] <owen1> reisio: i see the mounting point of the usb stick - /media/usb
[00:28] <owen1> i also see sdc1
[00:28] <owen1> and it's a vfat.
[00:28] <GEEMac> reisio,  I'll check that out.  If all else fails, back to 14.04
[00:29] <owen1> reisio: does this looks fine? sudo dd if=/home/owen/ubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso of=/media/usb
[00:29] <reisio> GEEMac: no :p
[00:30] <reisio> owen1: no, that looks like a mount point
[00:30] <reisio> owen1: run 'mount | egrep -i '\/media\/usb'
[00:30] <hispeed67> what's a good video card that's cheap?
[00:30] <reisio> owen1: to the left of '/media/usb' you will see the actual /dev/foo# path, which is what you want for of=
[00:30] <reisio> hispeed67: onboard intel
[00:31] <owen1> reisio: lsblk -f show me sdc and under it sdc1
[00:31] <owen1> is that what you mean?
[00:31] <GEEMac> reisio,  so apparently there is no fix for this situation without a work around.  I even found one post stating it as a bug that when booting it does not read the graphics settings and boots to default.
[00:31] <hispeed67> :( no onboard video on my motherboard
[00:31] <reisio> GEEMac: quit unlikely, but there's always a fix even so
[00:31] <reisio> hispeed67: go to newegg.com, go to graphics cards, buy cheapest one
[00:31] <owen1> reisio: i see /dev/sdc1
[00:31] <owen1> reisio: /dev/sdc1 on /media/usb type vfat
[00:32] <reisio> of=/dev/sdc1 then
[00:32] <hispeed67> but nvidia doesn't work with wayland, right?
[00:32] <owen1> reisio: sweet!
[00:32] <reisio> owen1: but unmount it first
[00:32] <owen1> reisio: oh
[00:32] <reisio> hispeed67: the drivers? Dunno
[00:33] <GEEMac> reisio, Guess I'll keep an eye out for a fix, hopefully within the next few months since 16.04 is too new to have any posts.
[00:33] <hispeed67> ive got an ati 2G card, but seems like it isn't 'mainstream' in ubuntu 16.04
[00:34] <reisio> GEEMac: try moving /etc/X11/xorg.conf elsewhere, then rebooting
[00:36] <GEEMac> reisio,  Guess I can try that.  I'm goin to ry the startup first and see what it does then I'll make the move, actually just rename the file.
[00:37] <GEEMac> brb
[00:37] <GEEMac> going to try this startup file
[00:37] <owen1> reisio: do i need to delete the content of the usb before i start with dd?
[00:41] <reisio> owen1: no, but you need to not want that content back :p
[00:41] <owen1> reisio: good. because from some reason the content there became readonly. running dd now.
[00:42] <reisio> owen1: you shouldn't be seeing any content, if it's not mounted
[00:42] <owen1> reisio: btw, the foor loop is showing '
[00:42] <owen1> bash: kill: (31504) - Operation not permitted
[00:42] <reisio> owen1: make it sudo kill, then
[00:42] <reisio> needs to be the same user/perms
[00:43] <owen1> yup
[00:50] <Bashing-om> grubles: Back,  sorry for the delau . Automobile overheating and taking a priority . Real live intruding . Now where are we ?
[00:55] <GEEMac>  reisio, Stll no go.  Added the xrandr -s 1920x1080 line to the startup.  I'm thinking that there is something missing though like having the startup looking for a script to call the xrandr statement.  There is no "open in terminal" in the auto start or that would have run.
[00:57] <GEEMac> reisio, I'm going to open a bug report or add to the one already there if it pertains to this situation.
[00:59] <reisio> GEEMac: did you try moving the file?
[00:59] <owen1> reisio: no i see 'isolinux.bin missing or corrupt'
[01:00] <reisio> owen1: pardon?
[01:00] <owen1> reisio: dd was completed. i insert the stick into my older laptop and see this message
[01:00] <owen1> maybe checksum?
[01:00] <reisio> you should check the sum, yeah
[01:01] <owen1> reisio: do u have a link to the md5?
[01:01] <owen1> it's 16.06 desktop
[01:01] <owen1> 16.04
[01:02] <reisio> 16.04, 16.04.1?
[01:02] <reisio> x86? amd64?
[01:02] <owen1> forubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso
[01:02] <reisio> http://mirror.pnl.gov/releases/16.04.1/MD5SUMS
[01:02] <reisio> 17643c29e3c4609818f26becf76d29a3
[01:03] <owen1> i run md5sum ubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso -> 16a26716b0b4729e10ce5a0e3a3efbb7
[01:04] <reisio> k, then it's wrong
[01:04] <owen1> reisio: ok. downloading again. thanks. and now i know how to use dd!
[01:05] <reisio> :)
[01:06] <GEEMac> rei working on that now  I'm just going to rename it so if it blows up I can fix it at the log in term withinb nano
[01:06] <GEEMac> brb again
[01:07] <reisio> k
[01:08] <Bashing-om> Used to be a tremendous amount of effort was put into https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PopularPages to keep it current . I do not know if that effort continues .
[01:14] <YankDownUnder> Bashing-om: There is a link at the bottom for "contribution"...
[01:16] <Bashing-om> YankDownUnder: :) .. Though a good thing . I did post ^ in the wrong window . In the formative times I was quite active in making it happen .
[01:17] <YankDownUnder> Bashing-om: "Been there done that" - a time ago - Mandrake/Mandrive + RH & Fedora..."back in the day"...
[01:19] <Bashing-om> YankDownUnder: We do our good deeds !
[01:20] <YankDownUnder> ...with not even a donut or a coffee... :)
[01:20] <Bashing-om> But look at all the cookies !
[01:37] <danrik> could someone help me to troubleshoot why I cant use mullvad vpn?
[01:38] <danrik> I download zip from mullvad, extract and import mullvad_linux.conf.
[01:40] <danrik> then I click on "vpn" in network manager -> lock icon appears but when i open a browser -> I cant get to any site.
[01:45] <Bashing-om> grubles: Status ?
[01:47] <danrik> ping. could someone help with vpn?
[01:47] <danrik> pretty plz.
[01:56] <GEEMac> rei
[01:58] <GEEMac> reisio, Strange that the xorg.conf file was renamed.  I renamed it to xorg.conf and no go.  Strangely I also added a couple programs to the startup and 16.04 does not read them either.  I looked in the .config/autostart folder and with the hidden files set to unhide it was empty.  Looks as if there are a few nast bugs in 16.04
[02:01] <Bashing-om> GEEMac: Have no kept up with your issue(s) ,, hybrid graphics at play here ?
[02:04] <GEEMac> nope nothing changed since 14.04 After the upgrade to 16.04 it went all down hill for the screen resolution of 1080P  I have to xrandr every time I log in to fix the resolution.  I tried placing xrandr in the startup, a linein Lightdm.conf, a file in .config/autostart etc etc etc
[02:05] <Bashing-om> GEEMac: Verified that the proper graphic's driver is loaded - as an obvious thing ?
[02:06] <GEEMac> Bashing-om, Apparently there are some nasty bugs in 16.04.  One that I just found is thatg when booting it does not read and start the items in autostart.  Nothing in the .config/autostart folder.   Also apparently they took out start in terminal mode opt too.  But my main issue here is I can't keep my resolution at 1920x1080 atreboot
[02:07] <GEEMac> Same graphics drivers as in 14.04 where I did not have any issues.
[02:08] <GEEMac> Same exact system  with the old onboard Nividia 7050 chipset.  I am guessing 16.04 is not reading the xorg.conf file as stated many times that they don't use it anymore.
[02:09] <Bashing-om> GEEMac: And a driver is loaded ? ' sudo lshw -C display ' in the configuration line - driver= ??? .
[02:09] <GEEMac> Xrandr is the only way now and there is no way to save the resolution or get 16.04 to read any autostart/startup files with the line in it.
[02:10] <GEEMac> I have been at this since 1500 EST and no joy here.  Looks as if I am going back to 14.04.
[02:10] <Bashing-om> GEEMac: I have no 16.04 experience, can not help in that department .
[02:13] <GEEMac> Apparently this is what I am finding out so far with most.   I will post a few bug reports tomorrow. One being there is no saving screen resolution with out a work around that does not work anyway and also the application startup is broken since it does not save anything either.  I added a couple programs via "Add" and when rebooting nothing started up.
[02:13] <vlab> have a fresh install of ubuntu server vm on hyper-v in windows. update, dist-upgrade, autoremove, autoclean. install openssh-server. used bitvisessh on windows to ssh into ubuntu server vm. enabled X11 forwarding. checked sshd_config and x11 forwarding is enabled
[02:14] <vlab> typing in xclock in the terminal says "Error: Can't open display: localhost:10.0"
[02:14] <GEEMac> Apparently someone took out the option to open in terminal which would have then worked for xrandr -s 1920x1080
[02:15] <GEEMac> I Thank all that have been trying to help, but 16.04 is broken in many ways.
[02:15] <GEEMac> not quite as bad as 10.x  was but close.
[02:16] <Bashing-om> GEEMac: Well, you have the right of it . can not get any joy here with problem resolution - next thing is file a bug report and get the big boy's attention.
[02:16] <GEEMac> The release is too new for anyone to have any real experience with it to help out without using Google as I have been all day here.
[02:17] <GEEMac> Too bad the Devs don't mon itor the IRC.  It would save a bit of time.
[02:18] <GEEMac> Well anyway... Thanks to all that tried.  If no resolution here, back to 14.04 that worked on this computer.  Take care all .
[02:27] <vogelfrei> hi, i'd like to know how do i change the foreground color permanently in the tty, not xterm.
[02:37] <GEEMac> Just a quick update before I call it a night here. (FL / US )  I got the system to read the xorg.conf file and after the resolution was 1080P it reverted back to 720P before the desktop came up.  I can tell by my TVs screen res indicator.  Man what a mess...
[02:38] <GEEMac> again, Night All and thanks...
[02:45] <vlab> had to install xming
[03:07] <Qwertie> How do I install bindsym? I cant find any package for it in the repos
[03:10] <rypervenche> Qwertie: Where are you seeing "bindsym"?
[03:10] <rypervenche> Qwertie: Only reference that I see to that is in i3 configs.
[03:10] <Qwertie> rymate1234: on guides for setting up shortcuts on i3
[03:10] <go-away> any girlz here?
[03:10] <go-away> i'm, like, so fuckin' horny right now
[03:10] <Qwertie> oh, is that for configs and not basg
[03:11] <OerHeks> !ot | go-away
[03:11] <cfhowlett> go-away, be gone.  wrong channel.  grow up.
[03:11] <go-away> !help
[03:11] <Rarrikins> Qwertie: Yeah, it looks like something for i3 configuration files.
[03:11] <Qwertie> Rarrikins: Yep, That seems to be it
[03:15] <go-away> porn?
[03:15] <EmeraldExplorer> For my first course in AI, which one of these do you think would be best? https://www.udacity.com/course/intro-to-machine-learning--ud120 https://www.udacity.com/course/intro-to-artificial-intelligence--cs271 https://www.udacity.com/course/artificial-intelligence-for-robotics--cs373
[03:15] <go-away> anyone?
[03:16] <cfhowlett> !ops | go-away
[03:16] <go-away> dont tell the ops to go-aaway
[03:16] <cfhowlett> EmeraldExplorer, please ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:16] <go-away> *away
[03:16] <EmeraldExplorer> cfhowlett: OK, wasn't really sure where to ask it so I just chose here :p
[03:17] <go-away> sorry
[03:17] <chu> Whoosp!
[03:19] <dax> Do not send people looking for sex to #ubuntu-offtopic, that channel abides by !guidelines too. kthx.
[03:19] <cfhowlett> ?  no one sent the sex to ubuntu-offtopic
[03:19] <roygbiv> no one was sent there for sex
[03:20] <dax> I guess my scrollback just makes things up then.
 EmeraldExplorer, please ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:21] <dax> i do occasionally notice problems with people who aren't you, cfhowlett
[03:21] <cfhowlett> :)  ouch ...
[03:21] <dax> anyway, back to supportland
[03:23] <ddoobb> Hi guys is it OK to ask for help here?
[03:24] <cfhowlett> ddoobb, please do
[03:25] <ddoobb> I've been getting this error message withing an hour or so of booting up after which my wifi doesn't work unless I restart. Here's the message "Connection activation failed. (2)Active connection removed before it was initialized"
[03:28] <samba35> i have newly installed 16.04.1 server ,i am getting this message
[03:28] <cfhowlett> samba35, might want to ask #ubuntu-server for server help
[03:28] <samba35> a start job is running for rise for network intreface
[03:28] <samba35> ok
[03:31] <samba35> but one of my freind has l laptop and he is also facing same issuse with desktop ubuntu
[03:31] <cfhowlett> samba35, what exactly is the error msg??
[03:33] <samba35> wait
[03:33] <samba35> pls
[03:35] <nzw1_> exit
[03:35] <nzw1_> cc
[03:38] <samba35> "A start job is running for raise network interfaces (2 minutes of 5 mins 1 sec)"
[03:39] <cfhowlett> samba35, vpn??  AWS?
[03:39] <samba35> no
[03:39] <samba35> regular lan
[03:40] <cfhowlett> samba35, networking is way outside my area but I googled "A start job is running for raise network interfaces" + ubuntu.  many hits.
[03:41] <cfhowlett> direct fix seems to be:  https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2323253&s=56db44234fca87ce0d76d0e375fa6014&p=13511349#post13511349
[03:41] <samba35> yes i did googleing also but still not fix soulastion
[03:43] <chisa> im trying to block all bots (googlebot does not respect robots.txt)
[03:43] <chisa> and both of these htaccess files should work
[03:43] <chisa> but both result in internal server error 500
[03:43] <chisa> http://razorbelle.com/public/text/htaccess-block-all.txt
[03:43] <chisa> http://razorbelle.com/public/text/htaccess-block-all-2.txt
[03:43] <chisa> am i doing something wrong?
[03:43] <chisa> halp! lol
[03:44] <Rarrikins> chisa: Please don't use the Enter key as punctuation. The actual Googlebot does respect robots.txt, but any bot can falsely claim to be Googlebot.
[03:47] <Rarrikins> chisa: I'm not really familiar with how to block bots, but I notice that, near the bottom of your files, you have two lines for ZyBorg. One of them seems incorrect and unnecessary.
[03:48] <Pinkamena_D> can anyone recommend a device to capture audio and video from composite (red/white/yellow) video to ubuntu? Either a card or USB device.
[03:49] <chisa> oh?
[03:49] <chisa> which is wrong?
[03:49] <chisa> and on which file 1 or 2?
[03:49] <Rarrikins> chisa: Both.
[03:49] <Rarrikins> chisa: Also, according to http://www.auburn.edu/docs/apache/mod/mod_browser.html, you need to surround the user agents with quotes.
[03:49] <lordcirth> Pinkamena_D, that is normally called a Video Capture Card
[03:50] <cfhowlett> Pinkamena_D, would that also be called analog video?
[03:50] <Pinkamena_D> yes, non-HD analog
[03:50] <Rarrikins> chisa: At least, you need to if there are spaces involved.
[03:50] <Pinkamena_D> I just wanted a recommendation of the video capture device which is well supported in ubuntu, possibly one that one of you has tried?
[03:53] <cfhowlett> Pinkamena_D, https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Video_capture_card
[03:54] <silv3r_m00n> hi there, i have a strange problem on my pc
[03:54] <silv3r_m00n> when i start my kubuntu pc in morning, the time is , the time i shutdown last night
[03:54] <silv3r_m00n> after about 5 minutes it sets the right time from internet
[03:55] <silv3r_m00n> why is this happening
[03:55] <Rarrikins> silv3r_m00n: Your CMOS battery on your motherboard might be dead.
[03:55] <owen1> i am trying to use unetbootin but i can't see my usb drive in the dropdown. lsblk -f show me 'name:sdc1 fstype:iso9660 mountpoint /media/owen/Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS amd64'  any ideas?
[03:56] <Rarrikins> silv3r_m00n: After a short time, the system will ask a server on the Internet for what time it is in case the computer's clock is off.
[03:56] <owen1> reisio: even after using the correct iso file (checksumed) and using dd i see: 'isolinux.bin missing or corrupt' ):
[03:56] <cfhowlett> silv3r_m00n, did you shutdown or merely suspend?
[03:56] <silv3r_m00n> Rarrikins: but i changed the cmos battery just 15 days ago after having lot of time problem
[03:56] <silv3r_m00n> cfhowlett: shutdown/switchoff after dinner
[03:56] <silv3r_m00n> then on after breakfast
[04:00] <danrik> is there a channel for Linux help?
[04:00] <dax> ##linux
[04:00] <lordcirth> I have not always found ##linux very helpful, though...
[04:00] <Rarrikins> danrik: Also, this channel does help with generic Linux stuff that applies within Ubuntu.
[04:01] <danrik> lordcirth, thx. Im looking for some help with this issue:
[04:01] <danrik> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/304746/vpn-able-to-establish-connection-but-cant-get-to-any-site
[04:03] <lordcirth> That sounds painful to debug.
[04:19] <MannyLNJ> Question: How do I assign multple host names to one Ubuntu system?
[04:22] <rypervenche> MannyLNJ: You can't have multiple hostnames assigned to the machine, but you can have multiple hosts resolve to your machine's IP address(es). Locally it can be done in the /etc/hosts file.
[04:22] <MannyLNJ> rypervenche, thanks
[04:24] <studentofarkad> hey
[04:24] <studentofarkad> it worked! finally registered :D
[04:42] <MannyLNJ> Trying to setup DNSMASQ per guide at http://blogging.dragon.org.uk/howto-setup-dnsmasq-as-dns-dhcp/ dnsmasq won't start says address is in use. How can I tell what DHCP service I am using and stop it?
[05:07] <cfhowlett> !sound
[05:08] <cfhowlett> !audio
[05:11] <MannyLNJ> How can I tell what DHCP and DNS server I have installed?
[05:17] <Bashing-om> MannyLNJ: ' cat /etc/resolv.conf ' may give a strong hint .
[05:19] <MannyLNJ> Bashing-om, it does not give me any idea http://pastebin.com/X9DQTy6M
[05:23] <MannyLNJ> Bashing-om, I am trying to get my system to use dnsmasq but it won't start because it thinks there is another service using the port
[05:27] <Bashing-om> MannyLNJ: Lots I do not know about routing . But the local loop (127.0.1.1) for DNS ?/
[05:28] <Bashing-om> MannyLNJ: Mine : http://termbin.com/z0k3 where 192.168.0.1 is my router handing out DHCP .
[05:29] <MannyLNJ> Bashing-om, If I can get dnsmasq to start it will assign DHCP but it won't start because it thinks something else is using the port
[05:30] <Rarrikins> MannyLNJ: To see DNS servers running, try sudo netstat -pnltu | fgrep ':53 '
[05:30] <Bashing-om> MannyLNJ: Sorry, just do not know in this instance .
[05:32] <MannyLNJ> Rarrikins, and Bashing-om thanks. Rarrikins dnsmasq appears to be running althought when I do service dnsmasq status  it says not running
[05:34] <Grorco> Hey I wrote a script to start up pycharm then move it using wmctrl to a different workspace, but it's not working. I think that it has to do with pycharm using a loading screen before the main screen pops up but I'm not sure.
[05:34] <Rarrikins> MannyLNJ: I think for DHCP, you'd use sudo netstat -pnlu | fgrep ':67 '
[05:34] <Grorco> https://paste.pound-python.org/show/DVltJbqcziQ3mD2gS99H/ this is the script can someone take a look at it and let me know if something seems off
[05:35] <pests> I have kubuntu installed. How do I switch to a different window manager? I have it installed, just don't know how to use it. On unbutu I remember there being a selection on the login window but I cant find it.
[05:35] <MannyLNJ> Rarrikins, dnsmasq should serve IP address as well as DNS Here is the pastebin http://pastebin.com/F1JXD9rc
[05:36] <cfhowlett> pests, logout.  click on the gear icon.  select alternate.  login
[05:37] <Rarrikins> MannyLNJ: I'm not sure why `service` is inaccurate. Sometimes it loses track of things, though.
[05:38] <Grorco> the option on the start screen is for de not wm if there isn't another de I don't think it will appear
[05:38] <Grorco> I use dconf to change mine in mate
[05:40] <pests> Ugh sorry. Whoever answered me can you pasted what you said? Disconnected and didnt see it all.
[05:40] <dust> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speech_recognition_software_for_Linux
[05:41] <dust> why arent all available?
[05:41] <pests> Or public log link I can look it up?
[05:41] <cfhowlett> dust, ??? exactly what is your question now?
[05:41] <dust> kaldi is for example not in the repo
[05:42] <pests> I cant find the way to switch window managers in kubuntu.
[05:42] <Grorco> pests, the options on the login screen are for different desktop enviroments ubuntu/ lubuntu ect... I use dconf in mate and you could/ may need to manually start it at start up
[05:42] <pests> I got to the part of clicking the gear icon. Is it susposed to be there? I didnt see it if so.
[05:42] <cfhowlett> dust, many packages are not in the repos.  Kaldi is available from kaldi-asr.org
[05:43] <pests> Grorco: Well, I'm trying to install awesome. I have it installed but what would I need to do to switch to it?
[05:43] <cfhowlett> dust, http://kaldi-asr.org/doc/install.html
[05:43] <dust> cfhowlett, and for what is the package system? that ppl need to search and install manually? incl keep it manully uptodate?
[05:43] <dust> yes i know
[05:44] <Grorco> pest, do you have dconf editor? it would be under apps/ system tools
[05:44] <owen1> i am trying to use unetbootin but i can't see my usb drive in the dropdown. lsblk -f show me 'name:sdc1 fstype:iso9660 mountpoint /media/owen/Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS amd64'  any ideas?
[05:44] <cfhowlett> dust, you asked how to install kaldi.  you have a link telling you exactly how to install kaldi.  for further support on kaldi, please consult the kaldi resources.  note that kaldi is NOT an ubuntu product so support for it here will be limited or non-existent.
[05:46] <dust> cfhowlett, no... i said that not all are available from the wikipedia link... kaldi is just an example... so the question is why such important stuff like voice input isnt well supported
[05:46] <diverdude> Hello. what is the normal way to use mesus? To have all machines initially boot via network and download a full OS like ubuntu with vagrant installed, which then inside vagrant runs X virtual machines (VMs) on that node with X docker instances in each VM, and mesos inside each VM? Or is mesos typycally run directly on the foundation OS? Or something else?
[05:50] <pests> I figured it out. Aa bug that prevent it from being displayed in the list or whatever. I dont know if its a long term fix though,
[05:50] <pests> I had to put NoDisplay=true but I had to go through Openbox? to load it.
[05:52] <Grorco> pests, I think you are making this way harder than it should be lol openbox is a de/ and wm
[05:53] <Grorco> pests, open a terminal and type dconf-editor
[05:53] <Grorco> it'll open a window with list on the side
[05:54] <zacwalls> What exactly does apt-get update do?
[05:54] <zacwalls> I think I know but not 100%
[05:54] <Grorco> it should be under org/lubuntu/desktop/session/
[05:54] <cfhowlett> zacwalls, open your terminal: man apt-get update
[05:55] <zacwalls> cfhowlett: I am actually running arch, I just wanted to know. Pretty sure it just updates the package list for apt?
[05:55] <Grorco> you will see required components click it. on the right you will see your window manager, click the text and type in your new one. log out and in and it should be good
[05:55] <cfhowlett> zacwalls, yes
[05:55] <zacwalls> Oh
[05:56] <zacwalls> Wow first time I've ever guessed something to do with linux and I was right....
[06:30] <Fione> Test
[06:52] <swensson> can I reach files in trash from terminal?
[06:55] <Rarrikins> swensson: ~/.local/share/Trash (note that this might not exist if the trash is emptied).
[07:18] <Netek> hi all, I have made new installation of Ubuntu 16.04 Desktop but when I am loading Ubuntu it is telling me errors happened, but now I cannot find what the problem was.  Is there a log or something I can check?
[07:19] <YankDownUnder> Netek: You can use (in a terminal): sudo dmesg | more => and as well, check out the logs in /var/log/
[07:20] <MannyLNJ> Having a problem with postfix now. Using the guide at  http://www.binarytides.com/install-postfix-dovecot-debian/  I have an error with the postmap /etc/postfix/virtual_mailbox_domains command http://pastebin.com/pL407PYs  help is appreciated
[07:20] <Netek> YankDownUnder I was looking inside /var/log but cannot see any errors
[07:20] <Netek> No errors are showing with the dmesg command
[07:21] <ducasse> Netek: are you getting the "system problem detected popups"?
[07:21] <Netek> ducasse yes
[07:21] <ducasse> Netek: look in /var/crash
[07:21] <Netek> ducasse on boot only, since then I didnt get anymore errors
[07:21] <Netek> ducasse ok will check thanks
[07:23] <Netek> ahha fontconfig, libfontconfig, totem, language selector and unity scope loader.  I think i need to learn MUCH more to understand this but this is a starting point.  Thanks
[07:25] <owen1> i am trying to use unetbootin but i can't see my usb drive in the dropdown. lsblk -f show me 'name:sdc1 fstype:iso9660 mountpoint /media/owen/Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS amd64'  any ideas?
[07:27] <ZeekHuge> owen1: use Disks to create a filesystem on it . It must be visible then
[07:27] <ZeekHuge> probably
[07:28] <ducasse> owen1: you can't write an image to it while it is mounted, try unmounting it
[07:33] <owen1> ducasse: i don't see it in the dropbown even after unmounting it
[07:34] <owen1> ZeekHuge: interesting. Disks is the name of the app i should use?
[07:34] <ZeekHuge> owen1: yes
[07:34] <ZeekHuge> thats already installed
[07:35] <owen1> ZeekHuge: a bit about the history of this usb stick - i used dd to put the ubuntu iso on it. but when i put that usb in an older laptop and restarting it i see 'isolinux.bin missing or corrupt'
[07:36] <owen1> so i am trying to use unetbootin instead of dd.
[07:37] <ducasse> owen1: have you checked the image you downloaded?
[07:37] <ZeekHuge> owen1: I am not sure . But had similar problems and using 'Disks' to clear and create a filesystem on the usb stick did the trick for me.
[07:37] <owen1> ducasse: yup. checksum is fine
[07:38] <owen1> what the exact name of this app? i see gnome-disk-utility but can't figure out how to run it
[07:38] <owen1> ZeekHuge: ^
[07:39] <V7> Hey
[07:39] <owen1> maybe u mean gparted?
[07:39] <ZeekHuge> owen1:  you are using terminal version ?
[07:40] <V7> owen1: Alt+F2: gnome-disks
[07:40] <owen1> ZeekHuge: i use i3 but i have ubuntu desktop so i can access everything from the desktop
[07:40] <owen1> works. thanks
[07:40] <owen1> i see my usb drive with this app
[07:40] <owen1> ZeekHuge: should i 'format partition' ?
[07:41] <ZeekHuge> owen1: yes
[07:41] <ZeekHuge> owen1: wait
[07:41] <ZeekHuge> owen1: nothing extra data in your stick right ?
[07:41] <owen1> ZeekHuge: yeah
[07:42] <ZeekHuge> owen1: then format it . remove and reinsert it
[07:42] <owen1> ZeekHuge: should i pick ext4 ?
[07:42] <V7> +
[07:42] <ZeekHuge> owen1: yes you can
[07:42] <owen1> ok
[07:43] <owen1> awesome
[07:45] <ZeekHuge> owen1: did that work ? is the stick now visible on unetbootin ?
[07:47] <AzraelEnki> Any recommendations to read about traffic shaping? I don't know if that's even the right term. I have on my internal network an nfs server which also is a tftp server for network boot. I like to prioritize BOOTP over NFS.
[07:48] <owen1> ZeekHuge: i chose the slow option. it's half way. it's only 4GB
[07:48] <lotuspsychje> AzraelEnki: perhaps the #ubuntu-server guys know more about that?
[07:48] <AzraelEnki> lotuspsychje, thanks!
[07:49] <ZeekHuge> AzraelEnki: google 'Wondershaper ubuntu'
[07:54] <owen1> ZeekHuge: i think i click on the off button
[07:54] <exxi> if i am using ufw than ufw will automatically manage iptables ?
[07:54] <owen1> ZeekHuge: and i think i just unmounted my main partition... not sure
[07:54] <owen1> ZeekHuge: can u please hold my hand and make sure i am still fine?
[07:55] <ZeekHuge> owen1: no problem. Just re-insert it and do it again
[07:55] <owen1> re-insert what?
[07:55] <owen1> ZeekHuge: i am not talking about the usb stick
[07:55] <ZeekHuge> owen1: usb stick
[07:55] <ZeekHuge> so what ?
[07:55] <owen1> ZeekHuge: i never removed it
[07:55] <owen1> ZeekHuge: i hit 'off' button
[07:55] <ZeekHuge> on Disks ?
[07:55] <owen1> and i think it unmounted an important drive
[07:55] <owen1> ZeekHuge: yes
[07:56] <ZeekHuge> oh ! ... ahh ...
[07:56] <owen1> the usb was formatted. i didn't remove it yet.
[07:56] <ZeekHuge> can you access a terminal.
[07:56] <ZeekHuge> ?
[07:56] <owen1> ZeekHuge: yes. do u want to know the output of lsblk -f ?
[07:56] <ZeekHuge> just reboot you system
[07:56] <ZeekHuge> *your
[07:57] <owen1> ZeekHuge: are u sure?
[07:57] <Tin_man> exxi, might read this article, I found it helpful. http://www.howtogeek.com/177621/the-beginners-guide-to-iptables-the-linux-firewall/
[07:58] <ZeekHuge> owen1: I *THINK* that it wont harm and just brings things on the right place. But not definitely sure.
[07:58] <owen1> ZeekHuge: i think i unmounted the external usb drive. so it's fine
[07:58] <ZeekHuge> owen1: pheww ..
[07:59] <owen1> thanks! now let me try remove and insert the usb
[07:59] <owen1> sdb1                  ext4        lexar 6d5c8e7f-a6e5-4a32-a4d4-8f4438a8236d
[08:00] <owen1> ZeekHuge: works! i see it now
[08:00] <ZeekHuge> owen1: Cool !
[08:00] <owen1> ZeekHuge: but unetbootin asks me to mount it
[08:01] <ZeekHuge> owen1: it should automatically get mounted as you insert it.
[08:02] <owen1> i use python-udiskie. let me try again.
[08:02] <owen1> now it's mounted. wierd.
[08:02] <exxi> Tin_man, okay
[08:04] <owen1> ZeekHuge: ok. it's preparing the bootable ubuntu. i hope i don't get 'isolinux.bin missing or corrupt' again..
[08:08] <Bitnova> Hi.  Im on 14.04.5, it says 1404 HWE EOL security updates is now end of life.   So im about to install the xenial kernel with: sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-lts-xenial, and it throws this: WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[08:08] <Bitnova> Can someone tell me why its giving that warning?
[08:09] <ZeekHuge> owen1: fingers crossed.
[08:09] <Rarrikins> Bitnova: Because it's getting packages with incorrect signatures.
[08:10] <Rarrikins> Bitnova: I'd recommend not going forward until it doesn't do that.
[08:10] <Bitnova> Rarrikins, oh ok - so il just have to wait for them to fix that then
[08:11] <ViciousLooRoll> Hey, is it possible to symlink to an external location
[08:11] <ViciousLooRoll> Eg a folder on my ssh server
[08:11] <cfhowlett> Bitnova, could be that your mirror runs slow.  try the alternatives
[08:11] <Bitnova> cfhowlett, okay il try
[08:12] <cfhowlett> Bitnova, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[08:12] <owen1> ZeekHuge: 'Syslinux 6.03 EDD' error
[08:14] <Bitnova> cfhowlett, without changing mirrors, all i did was sudo apt-get update and after that re-ran the command, it started downloading..
[08:14] <Selzar> hello
[08:14] <ZeekHuge> owen1: sorry .. literally no idea whats that related to . You sure you have a correct image  ?
[08:14] <cfhowlett> Bitnova, nicely done!  usually such problems self correct
[08:14] <Bitnova> oh ok than im glad cfhowlett . thanks!
[08:17] <Kurowa> test
[08:17] <Bitnova> ViciousLooRoll, im also interested if external symlinks would work. does anyone know?
[08:18] <Kurowa> hello?
[08:18] <ViciousLooRoll> I've been told by someone in the fountain pen IRC of all places, that yes it is possible bitnova
[08:18] <ViciousLooRoll> Kurowa hello
[08:18] <ViciousLooRoll> Bitnova I'm not sure how to go about doing it tho.
[08:19] <ViciousLooRoll> Bitnova, oh.  Apperently it's not... Nevermind.
[08:20] <owen1> ZeekHuge: yeah. i found this - http://askubuntu.com/questions/696797/boot-error-on-live-usb-flash-drive-with-15-10  but i don't understand what they are saying.
[08:20] <ViciousLooRoll> I'm just trying to work out how to scrot to a website folder
[08:20] <Bitnova> ViciousLooRoll, so its not possible? :(
[08:20] <ViciousLooRoll> Bitnova: there must be a way!!
[08:21] <Bitnova> ViciousLooRoll, i think if there had to be a network folder set up..
[08:21] <Bitnova> then symlink that
[08:23] <ViciousLooRoll> Can you mount a server to your computer?
[08:25] <ViciousLooRoll> Bitnova: https://github.com/libfuse/sshfs
[08:26] <Bitnova> ViciousLooRoll, this might not work for you, but have you tried LuckyBackup?
[08:26] <ViciousLooRoll> Bitnova nope. I'll look into ut
[08:26] <ViciousLooRoll> It
[08:27] <Bitnova> ViciousLooRoll, its actually the best, can do any type of transfer or backup, or automated transfer/backup.
[08:31] <FManTropyx> "No candidate ver: linux-image-3.13.0-85-generic"
[08:31] <owen1> ZeekHuge: maybe it's not possible to use unetbootin from 15.10 to write USB images for 16.04?
[08:32] <netvixtra> dd does the trick
[08:32] <ZeekHuge> owen1: yeah .. thats what it looks like. why not try as the ans. says ?
[08:32] <owen1> ZeekHuge: i didn't understand it ):
[08:33] <owen1> right click on the iso?
[08:33] <ZeekHuge> You have the image file downloaded . right ?
[08:33] <ZeekHuge> owen1: ^
[08:33] <owen1> ZeekHuge: yup
[08:34] <ZeekHuge> owen1:  right click on it . and do as the post says.
[08:35] <FManTropyx> omg, lynx is no longer supported by Canonical
[08:36] <owen1> ZeekHuge: ok. i'll use nautilus
[08:36] <ZeekHuge> owen1: nautilus is the file-system
[08:36] <ZeekHuge> I mean the file-manger
[08:36] <ZeekHuge> *manager
[08:37] <owen1> ZeekHuge: i am on i3
[08:37] <ZeekHuge> owen1: okay. yes got it. you need to go to the file and then right click on it.
[08:37] <ZeekHuge> i3 ?
[08:37] <owen1> so if i want to do right click i need nautilus
[08:37] <owen1> https://i3wm.org/
[08:38] <ZeekHuge> owen1: okay.
[08:39] <funkyheadgirl> #archlinux-unregistered
[08:39] <JackMayol> .
[08:39] <funkyheadgirl> what
[08:39] <funkyheadgirl> Is this working?
[08:39] <JackMayol> wee I can type
[08:39] <Rarrikins> Is what working?
[08:39] <FManTropyx> you are on #Ubuntu
[08:39] <funkyheadgirl> Oh this IS working sorry I had some problems with this chat
[08:40] <Folatt2> Hello
[08:40] <funkyheadgirl> Hi everyone
[08:40] <Folatt2> Ah I can talk
[08:41] <funkyheadgirl> Oh yeah I have this thing to ask, I was wondering if someone could help me?
[08:41] <bazhang> funkyheadgirl, this is ubuntu support only
[08:41] <Folatt2> I apologize for falling asleep earlier. I have a network connection problem with my main computer.
[08:41] <Saitama> I'd like to move my /home to another partition. On sudo blkid, the partition I intend to be the destination has TYPE = "crypto_LUKS", which I promptly added to /etc/fstab file. that being said, the mount -a command gives me : mount: unknown filesystem type 'crypto_LUKS'. I don't know what to do now?
[08:41] <bazhang> ask the actual question funkyheadgirl
[08:42] <funkyheadgirl> Oh ok, so can you help me to find another place to get some help with my ubuntu 16.04?
[08:42] <Folatt2> It' s a wired connection, Ubuntu 16.04 Unity 7
[08:42] <ikonia> funkyheadgirl: this channel will support ubuntu 16.04 for you
[08:42] <EriC^^> funkyheadgirl: this is the place
[08:42] <ikonia> funkyheadgirl: please just ask the actual question
[08:42] <bazhang> funkyheadgirl, what do you mean, this is ubuntu support
[08:43] <Folatt2> The network connection icon shows that it's disabled and I can' t ping anywhere to. No network found.
[08:44] <Folatt2> The last thing I was doing before I fell asleep ws posting a pastebin that was asked by bekks.
[08:44] <Folatt2> http://pastebin.com/e1p2iXBH
[08:46] <Folatt2> I was not doing anyhting. The connection dropped out of the blue.
[08:50] <owen1> ZeekHuge: i can't follow the instructions since my usb drive is not mounted. 'lsblk -f' show me 'sdb'    nothing in the FSTYPE, UUID, or MOUNTPOINT columns
[08:51] <owen1> maybe usb stick with bootalble ubuntu is not mountable?
[08:51] <ZeekHuge> owen1: I thinks so.
[08:53] <funkyheadgirl> yeah I think this solved it thanks all
[08:55] <Netek> if I want to block FTP and only allow connections from specific IP Addresses, is this done through proftpd or firewall?
[08:55] <ikonia> either/both
[08:56] <Netek> ikonia ok, well basically I am just trying to setup a new server for backups of websites.  I will carry on checking, thanks
[08:58] <Folatt2> Is anymore information needed?
[08:59] <Netek> Folatt2 me?
[08:59] <Folatt2> Like I said, main computer has no connection, I can' t ping anywhere, http://pastebin.com/e1p2iXBH, connection dropped out of the blue.
[09:00] <Folatt2> Netek, no, I have a connection problem myself.
[09:00] <Netek> Folatt2 ok, I am very sorry I cannot help.  I am very new
[09:00] <ducasse> Folatt2: which ubuntu version?
[09:00] <Folatt2> 16.04
[09:00] <Folatt2> Unity 7
[09:01] <ducasse> Folatt2: try 'sudo systemctl restart networking.service'
[09:02] <Saitama> HHhhhj
[09:05] <Folatt2> ducasse: done
[09:05] <Folatt2> ducasse: no change
[09:05] <ducasse> Folatt2: hmmm. have you tried rebooting after this happened?
[09:05] <Folatt2> ducasse: Yes, no change
[09:06] <Saitama> Hhhjjjj
[09:07] <ducasse> Folatt2: certain models of that network adapter has problems with this driver, and work better with the old r8168 driver. the problem with that is that driver only works with older kernels afaik.
[09:08] <ducasse> Folatt2: but first, try deleting the wired connection and creating a new one.
[09:09] <Folatt2> ducasse: how?
[09:10] <ducasse> Folatt2: i don't use network manager, but just click the icon in the tray and select edit connections.
[09:14] <FManTropyx> "System upgrade is complete."
[09:20] <Algebr`> How can I see a list of the ppas I have installed and then remove ones I don't need anymore
[09:21] <g00se_> software sources
[09:21] <Algebr`> in the shell
[09:22] <owen1> ZeekHuge: works now. thanks a lot
[09:22] <FManTropyx> "Welcome to Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS" Yay!
[09:23] <g00se_> Algebr`: go to /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[09:23] <Rarrikins> Algebr`: Run `software-properties-gtk`, switch to the `Other Software` tab.
[09:24] <eldarkg> Algebr`: add-apt-repository
[09:25] <Folatt2>  ducasse: No change
[09:26] <Algebr`> g00se_: so I can just remove those files that I don't want
[09:26] <g00se_> yes
[09:27] <bazhang> use ppa-purge Algebr`
[09:27] <bazhang> !ppa-purge | Algebr`
[09:28] <g00se_> ppa-purge is probably better
[09:29] <eldarkg> Algebr`: sudo add-apt-repository -r ppa:<repository-name>
[09:29] <ducasse> Folatt2: then i'm guessing your network adapter is one of those that would work better with the older driver. i don't know for certain, but it's a common problem.
[09:29] <Algebr`> ah thanks, already did the file deletion and worked fine. but will use ppa-purge in the future
[09:31] <Rarrikins> Algebr`: Now do `sudo apt update` so that your list of packages no longer includes that PPA.
[09:31] <Algebr`> ya did, had some ppas that no longer pointed to a valid http location
[09:31] <Rarrikins> Oh, OK
[09:32] <Folatt2> ducasse: How do you know what driver I have?
[09:32] <Algebr`> it is a little bit annoying that the most popular linux distro doesn't offer a proper version of nodejs in its apt-get
[09:32] <Algebr`> hence the ppa motivation and housekeeping
[09:33] <ducasse> Folatt2: from the log you posted
[09:33] <g00se_> whats wrong with the ubuntu version of node?
[09:33] <Folatt2> Oh, I see now
[09:33] <ducasse> Folatt2: the driver you have is r8169, the older one is r8168
[09:34] <Algebr`> g00se_: its very old
[09:34] <roxowsky> hi
[09:35] <Folatt2> ducasse: So I should choose the r8168 driver instead?
[09:36] <ducasse> Folatt2: tbh, i would rather get a new network adapter. the old driver only works with older kernels, so you would need to switch to that first. lots of drawbacks.
[09:37] <Folatt2> ducasse: I don't get it, it was working fine for months until yesterday.
[09:37] <Phryq> is there anyprogram that will delete duplicate files and replace them with shortcuts to their duplicate?
[09:38] <ducasse> Folatt2: did you update the kernel?
[09:38] <Folatt2> Not when I it all of a sudden dropped, but over the months I have done kernel updates.
[09:39] <ducasse> Folatt2: is the link light on?
[09:39] <Folatt2> ducasse: yes
[09:39] <Folatt2> ducasse: both lights are on
[09:40] <ducasse> Folatt2: the adapter thinks the link is down, for some reason. have you got another cable?
[09:41] <Folatt2> ducasse: Yes, no change.
[09:41] <ZeekHuge> owen1: cool !
[09:42] <ducasse> Folatt2: ok, we can try configuring the interface from /etc/network/interfaces, to rule out problems with network manager
[09:44] <ducasse> Folatt2: try putting http://paste.ubuntu.com/23075025/ in /etc/network/interfaces
[09:46] <mathlover97> Is there some program that could list me a file's actual file format and its extension? Thanks.
[09:47] <Rarrikins> mathlover97: `file` will try to tell you the format.
[09:48] <Algebr`> mathlover97: extension is just a convention
[09:48] <MonkeyDust> mathlover97  like    file photo.gif
[09:48] <mathlover97> Rarrikins, Algebr` MonkeyDust I see. Thank you guys :)
[09:50] <ren0v0> Hey, can someone recommend an application to manage photos, that supports tagging and grouping/stacking by filename? So i can stack RAW+JPEG whilst organising
[09:51] <MonkeyDust> ren0v0  shotwell
[09:52] <ren0v0> MonkeyDust, hmm hadn't even thought about it, let me take a look see
[09:55] <ren0v0> MonkeyDust, most people would say digiKam but even that doesn't allow me to group photos by filename
[09:56] <ren0v0> do you know definitely that shotwell allows that?\
[09:56] <Folatt2> ducasse: done, now what?
[09:56] <ducasse> Folatt2: try 'sudo systemctl restart networking.service' again
[09:57] <Folatt2> ducasse: I've tried, no change.
[09:57] <MonkeyDust> ren0v0  install and find out what shotwell can do for you
[09:58] <ren0v0> MonkeyDust, well yes i'm currently importing but looks like it'll take an hour to do that, so was wondering if you actually know seeing as you suggested it based on my requirements :)
[09:58] <ducasse> Folatt2: i'm running out of ideas. can you try rebooting into an older kernel?
[10:00] <noobuntu> Guys how do I reinstall network-manager. If I uninstall it there will be no internet for installing it again.
[10:00] <noobuntu> Do I download a .deb?
[10:01] <BillKGR> noobuntu, Yeap download the deb package so that you have it available
[10:01] <Rarrikins> There's actually a better way.
[10:01] <Folatt2> ducasse: It is in an older kernel, no change. I might need to buy a new motherboard or something.
[10:02] <noobuntu> Please, go ahead. Rarrikins
[10:02] <Rarrikins> Let me see if I can find it.
[10:02] <tomreyn> apt-get install --reinstall
[10:02] <ducasse> Folatt2: i'm starting to suspect the nic might be busted. a new one isn't that expensive, though.
[10:03] <Folatt2> ducasse: I'm penniless
[10:03] <ren0v0> MonkeyDust, well so far it doesn't even import my JPG
[10:03] <Folatt2> :(
[10:03] <kittykitty> i have an awfully big virtual machine on my disk and it takes a long time to backup. I rarely boot it. Is it possible to compress it transparently? Like, in filesystem?
[10:03] <Rarrikins> In Synaptic, select the network-manager package, then use the 'Generate package download script' option in the File menu.
[10:03] <ducasse> Folatt2: normal pcie slots?
[10:03] <BillKGR> noobuntu, or you can apt-get download <package> just to have it available offline
[10:03] <Rarrikins> It'll make sure you have the dependencies as well.
[10:05] <Folatt2> ducasse: I think it' s pci, but the case won't allow it
[10:05] <BillKGR> tomreyn, is --reinstall an actual option of apt? I don't seem to find it documented anywhere
[10:06] <MonkeyDust> ren0v0  how many files are being imported, more or less
[10:06] <ren0v0> MonkeyDust, also it doesn't let me edit/delete them in place. So i import them, but deleting doesn't touch the original file, so i can't organise sort through then delete the ones i don't want..
[10:06] <ducasse> Folatt2: half-height or something?
[10:06] <ren0v0> MonkeyDust, i did a test folder with 14 files, it shows "developer: RAW+JPEG" but i can't see the jpg file, split them or anything
[10:07] <tomreyn> kittykitty: there are some virtual machine formats which support compression, usually those meant for transferring images over the network. but in most of those formats the VM won't be runnable unless it's decompressed first. which will take a while (both compressing, and again unccompressing it). the much better option is to resize the partitons / file systems available to the guest system and then resize the virtual storage and thus the image
[10:07] <tomreyn> file.
[10:07] <noobuntu> Rarrikins nothing happens after generate package download script
[10:07] <bekks> ren0v0: you cant see them where?
[10:07] <Rarrikins> noobuntu: You have to do it on the machine that doesn't have the package.
[10:08] <tomreyn> BillKGR: it is. re-check the apt-get(8) man page
[10:08] <ducasse> Folatt2: many nics come with a second bracket for half-height machines. you should be able to find one.
[10:08] <Rarrikins> noobuntu: You take the script from that machine to a machine with the Internet and run the script there.
[10:08] <Rarrikins> noobuntu: Then you take the debs back to the original machine.
[10:08] <Folatt2> ducasse: Thanks
[10:08] <tomreyn> kittykitty: which virtualization are you using there?
[10:08] <ducasse> Folatt2: sorry, but i have no better suggestions :(
[10:09] <BillKGR> tomreyn: shit, I was looking at apt's man, not apt-get
[10:09] <bekks> Folatt2: Did you assign an IP address manually, and a default route, as have been instructed yesterday?
[10:09] <ren0v0> bekks, seems shotwell merges them in the library so i can't delete just the RAW for example, not a huge issue i guess at least it groups them. My main issue is now it won't let me delete them from disk. My aim is to organise 1000s of pictures i take and mark ones i wish to keep, but then i won't be able to delete the others?
[10:10] <kittykitty> tomreyn, vhd with virtualbox. The type of file is a moot point though, I want to just be able to run it while it's compressed etc. You know, how ntfs does it but better? lol
[10:10] <Folatt2> bekks: i FELL ASLEEP AFTER i POSTED THE PASTEBIN
[10:10] <kittykitty> i saw there was a patch for ext compression in filesystem but it's not been merged?
[10:10] <Folatt2> Whoops, Sorry for the caps lock
[10:10] <noobuntu> Rarrikins yeah I haven't uninstalled it yet so I have internet right now. I marked it for installation, generated package download script, and went to "Add downloaded packages" but I cant select my scrip there (it's greyed out)
[10:10] <bekks> Folatt2: So do that now.
[10:11] <Folatt2> bekks: How?
[10:11] <bekks> ren0v0: Ah, I never used shotwell.
[10:11] <bekks> Folatt2: How what?
[10:11] <Rarrikins> noobuntu: You run the script in the terminal in an empty directory.
[10:11] <Folatt2> bekks: How do I assign an IP address manually and a default route?
[10:11] <bekks> Folatt2: Like this: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/network-configuration.html
[10:12] <Rarrikins> noobuntu: Then, once you're ready to reinstall, you do, in that directory, `sudo dpkg -i *.deb; sudo apt install -f -y`
[10:12] <Folatt2> <- reads
[10:12] <Rarrikins> noobuntu: You should probably have a backup machine connected to the Internet, though.
[10:13] <BillKGR> noobuntu: why do you want to reinstall a package in the first place?
[10:13] <eldarkg> Is it ubuntu/linux bug: coping a big file (like 4Gb)  to a usb flash (fs NTFS) make the system slow?
[10:14] <tomreyn> kittykitty: zfs and btrfs support transparent encryption. but i wouldn't got this way if it can be avoided. better arrange for more available storage. or shrink volumes which have unallocated space.
[10:14] <bekks> eldarkg: No, it is an USB issue, by design. USB is slow.
[10:15] <kittykitty> tomreyn, ugh thats annoying. Just wanted to avoid having to gunzip to run lol
[10:15] <Rarrikins> eldarkg: Your system itself shouldn't be slow, only perhaps the file transfer.
[10:15] <noobuntu> BillKGR I get this error after which my wifi doesn't work until I restart. I think network-manager reinstall might help? http://i.imgur.com/6qXGhhv.png
[10:15] <eldarkg> bekks: why the system became slow and hang sometimes
[10:16] <tomreyn> kittykitty: using a compressing file system, you do not avoid decompression to run.
[10:16] <bekks> eldarkg: Because it needs to wait for the USB device to finish writing stuff.
[10:16] <eldarkg> Rarrikins: maybe but the system shouldn't hang
[10:16] <tomreyn> kittykitty: is there really no unallocated space available in the guest system?
[10:16] <Rarrikins> eldarkg: Right, the system shouldn't hang.
[10:17] <kittykitty> tomreyn, there is but im going to fill it lol
[10:17] <kittykitty> tomreyn, theres also a load of unallocated space at the end of it, dont know how to get rid of it either
[10:17] <tomreyn> kittykitty: well then just add more storage to that host computer
[10:17] <eldarkg> bekks: I undestand you but the system shouldn't hang
[10:17] <bekks> eldarkg: So define "hang" first.
[10:17] <kittykitty> tomreyn, what fs should i use? I have a disk i can format now
[10:17] <kittykitty> tomreyn, btrfs?
[10:18] <tomreyn> kittykitty: okay that's the thing you should focus on then, getting rid of the "load of unallocated space at the end of it"
[10:19] <eldarkg> bekks: after the begin copying the system became slow -> gui freezes some times
[10:19] <tomreyn> kittykitty: gparted-live makes this process quite convenient (you just draw things around on a gui)
[10:20] <kittykitty> tomreyn, i cant edit the disk image using gparted though can i?
[10:20] <siavash_> hi
[10:20] <bekks> eldarkg: So take a look at "top" while copying.
[10:20] <tomreyn> kittykitty: no, you'd need to add a cdrom drive to the guest and insert the iso as a cd-rom in that drive, then boot off it
[10:21] <kittykitty> hm ok. I /can/ make the drive smaller in windows itself, thats no issue. I need to make the physical image smaller lol
[10:22] <kittykitty> tomreyn, i'll finish my backups and then use --compact or something
[10:23] <tomreyn> kittykitty: there'S a uitility which comes with virtualbox which allows for carrying out such modifications (reducing the size of an image / a virtual storage)
[10:23] <kittykitty> vboxmanage right? tomreyn
[10:23] <Rarrikins> It works even better if you zero fill the deleted data on the partition.
[10:24] <tomreyn> kittykitty: i think so, i haven't used it in a while
[10:26] <tomreyn> kittykitty: right, "VBoxManage modifymedium (--compact|--resize)" apparently
[10:30] <kittykitty> tomreyn, maybe i could also make a compressed partition and add it to my lvm?
[10:31] <tomreyn> kittykitty: so, i did not explain in detail why i think storing the virtual disk image on a transparent file system compression is a bad idea (whether you use NTFS or btrfs or zfs or the ext4 patch). doing so means that data would have to be compressed on any write to disk (within the running VM) and uncompressed on any read off the disk. this would slow things down a lot.
[10:32] <tomreyn> i'm not familar with the concept of partition compression. but if it exists then the same restrictions will apply.
[10:32] <kittykitty> tomreyn, yeah i know it slows it loads
[10:33] <tomreyn> that's why i'm saying: storage is cheap these days, so just extend your storage. or reduce unallocated / free space.
[10:33] <kittykitty> tomreyn, individual files would be ideal but i think btrfs is disk only? I don't use it often at all so i guess it doesnt matter
[10:33] <kittykitty> tomreyn, im a student ahahah
[10:34] <kittykitty> tomreyn, that said, im nowhere near the max of my disk. it's 19% of 500gb so it's ok
[10:34] <kittykitty> tomreyn, should the backup disk be much larger than the main disk ?
[10:35] <tomreyn> kittykitty: which backup disk?
[10:35] <kittykitty> tomreyn, i have a seperate disk for my backups
[10:35] <tomreyn> kittykitty: 19% of 500gb on your host or guest system?
[10:36] <kittykitty> tomreyn, my host's backup system. The vhd is included in the system backup
[10:36] <Folatt2> bekks: So I should follow the temporary IP address part?
[10:36] <bekks> Folatt2: Yes.
[10:36] <nics83> hello
[10:38] <tomreyn> kittykitty: and this 'backup system' is a NAS, or another storage attached to your workstation (which i assume hosts your 'main disk'?)?
[10:39] <kittykitty> tomreyn, just another disk, cant use a nas since im in a couple of different places a year for uni
[10:39] <tomreyn> kittykitty: maybe you could describe the bigger picture (repeating things is fine), since context is lacking.
[10:40] <tomreyn> so it's not a backup at all
[10:40] <kittykitty> well, im backing up the files at least tomreyn ahah
[10:40] <kittykitty> i cant do offsite
[10:40] <Folatt2> bekks: Is the following correct? -> https://paste.ubuntu.com/23075292
[10:41] <kittykitty> tomreyn, i have ubuntu 16.04 installed on a 1tb disk in a lvm container. A second 500gb disk with ext4 has the backups on it.
[10:41] <tomreyn> okay, i'm just trying to understand what you have there, and also point out possible flaws in this concept ;)
[10:41] <Folatt2> bekks: Results are that I can ping the address, but not reach it via firefox
[10:41] <bekks> Folatt2: No it isnt. You are setting the same IP as your router on your host. You need to use different addresses.
[10:42] <grasshopper_> host chat.freenode.net
[10:42] <Folatt2> bekks: First one is coorect IP, second one needs to be my host IP?
[10:43] <bekks> Folatt2: No.
[10:43] <bekks> Folatt2: for the ifconfig command, you need a different IP than your router.
[10:44] <Folatt2> bekks: Second one is correct IP, first one needs to be my host IP?
[10:44] <tomreyn> kittykitty: well you seem to have plenty of spare disk space then, so there deosn't seem to be an issue (except the fact that you don't have offsite backups - maybe consider some cheap encrypted cloud storage provider)
[10:44] <kittykitty> tomreyn, the virutalmachines i have take up ~70-80% of my usage lol
[10:44] <bekks> Folatt2: Define "first" and "second".
[10:44] <kittykitty> tomreyn, yeah maybe if i can find some. Possibly amazon would work
[10:45] <Folatt2> bekks: ip in first command I patebinned
[10:45] <Folatt2> exclusing the netmask
[10:45] <Folatt2> excluding the netmask
[10:46] <Grorco> Hey I'm trying to run a loop until wmctrl shows a windows pid is on my 3rd workstation anyone think they can give me a hand on what I'm doing wrong?
[10:47] <Folatt2> bekks: How do I know what my host ip is?
[10:48] <Grorco> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23075301/
[10:50] <tomreyn> kittykitty: there are a couple options. if you care about your privacy / have at least somewhat sensitive (unpublished research?) data stored on those disks, or just your passwords, you may want to choose a solution which ensures data is encrypted before it's uploaded to the cloud. i think wikipedia has a comparison. personally i'm not a ig fan of cloud storage, because those solutions are usually proprietary or the encryption is just for data
[10:50] <tomreyn> at rest or badly engineered, and i prefer self-hosted open source solutions. but YMMV, it's also a matter of money, and there are acceptable compromises in cloud backup.
[10:51] <kittykitty> tomreyn, hm ok. Someone at uni is running a cloud server, maybe i can hop on that
[10:53] <noobuntu> Does
[10:53] <noobuntu> Does 'Ubuntu Software' in 16.04 just hang and do nothing? Is this a known issue?
[10:54] <kittykitty> noobuntu, i think the new one is so bad that ive gone back to the one we used in 14.04
[10:54] <vladsv> hello ;)
[10:54] <noobuntu> how do I do system updates through command line?
[10:55] <EriC^> noobuntu: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:55] <Rarrikins> noobuntu: I do it with `sudo apt update; sudo apt dist-upgrade -y`
[10:55] <noobuntu> ok thanks
[10:56] <eldarkg> noobuntu: show upgradable list  'apt list --upgradable'
[10:56] <Folatt2> bekks: Which IPs should I use for each command?
[10:56] <tomreyn> noobuntu: i can't tell whether it's a known issue (you could review the bug reports on launchpad.net), but i don't think it just sitting there is intended behavior. here, it does more than that.
[10:58] <dibin> hlo
[10:59] <dibin> hai
[11:00] <noobuntu> Rarrikins: I made a script with synaptic but it only shows up inside synaptic, not in the file manager or command line
[11:00] <Netek> can somebody please tell me if I can use bash or something else to zip a directory and send it to another server via ssh?
[11:00] <mbwe> yes you could do that
[11:00] <Rarrikins> noobuntu: Copy it to a text file and make that file executable.
[11:01] <Netek> mbwe ok, I will see how bash is done. thanks
[11:05] <mbwe> Netek: you could do it like this tar -zxcf - /directory | ssh user@remote.com "cat > directory.tar.gz"
[11:06] <Netek> mbwe I will give this a test.  Is there a way to identify if a backup file already exists and remove this "AFTER" transfer is complete?
[11:07] <tomreyn> Netek: you would need to combine the commands zip (or tar with options J or z or j) for compression, and either scp, sftp or ssh for the transfer
[11:07] <mbwe> you could also use a solution based on rsync
[11:07] <Netek> ok.  This seems a bit advanced right now, I need to learn more and understand
[11:08] <tomreyn> Netek: to test whether a file system object exists at a given path, use: test -f path/to/file
[11:08] <Rarrikins> rsync has `--delete-after` and it supports SSH and compression.
[11:08] <Netek> basically I have the following:  Webserver,  Online Backup server, Local Backup Server.  The backups from webserver to online backup server runs fine.  But I want the files to then be transferred locally for peace of mind
[11:09] <Netek> after looking at rsync I think this seems a better solution.  Thanks for the suggestions people :)
[11:10] <noobuntu> how can i find if my system is i386, arm64 or amd64
[11:11] <Rarrikins> noobuntu: What is `uname -m`?
[11:11] <noobuntu> x86_64
[11:11] <mbwe> and for elaborate cpu information use lscpu noobuntu
[11:11] <Rarrikins> noobuntu: Then you're currently using amd64.
[11:13] <mbwe> noobuntu: also take a look at the /proc/cpuinfo, you can display that information with the command "cat /proc/cpuinfo"
[11:13] <u0m3> hi. anyone around know how to debug resolf.conf issues? I think I did something and now the only line it has is to localhost and after a few mins, OS starts to fail to resolve DNS...
[11:13] <TheLawyer> I'm used to type calc in order to run the calculator but Libreoffice keep bullshitting me ... how to remove it from the dash?
[11:14] <TheLawyer> I want to see and run calculator only when I type that
[11:14] <MonkeyDust> TheLawyer  then type calcu
[11:14] <mbwe> i believe that /etc/resolv.conf is not one that should be edited by hand, but via the NetworkManager u0m3
[11:14] <mbwe> So go to your networkmanager and add the dns information
[11:14] <MonkeyDust> TheLawyer  if you don't want to see calculator and never use it, try and remove it
[11:15] <mbwe> and it should also be added to /etc/resolv.conf
[11:15] <TheLawyer> MonkeyDust: lol that is good solution I didn't think about it
[11:15] <TheLawyer> but anyway .. it's not what I wanted
[11:15] <TheLawyer> I want the take off libreoffice from the dash
[11:17] <MonkeyDust> TheLawyer  dash looks for and shows everything that's installed
[11:17] <mbwe> u0m3: any luck
[11:18] <u0m3> mbwe, well that is the issue, I have specified additional IPv4 DNS servers but they don't seem to apear.. after every restart /etc/resolf.conf only has 127.0.0.1 and for some strange reason it sometimes works briefly and than starts to fail...
[11:18] <u0m3> mbwe, I meant appear in resolf.conf
[11:19] <mbwe> u0m3: did you directly edit the /etc/resolv.conf file or did you add it via the gui network manager
[11:20] <Folatt2> I don't know which IPs I should use for a temporary IP address assignment. Can anyone help me?
[11:20] <u0m3> mbwe, well I added it in NetworkManager->Edit Connections->my_wireless_connection->IPv4->additional dns servers
[11:20] <u0m3> mbwe, but it does nothing... so after every restart I edit resolf.conf by hand to have DNS resolving capability
[11:22] <mbwe> u0m3: could you paste /etc/network/interfaces somewhere, not in the channel u0m3
[11:24] <u0m3> mbwe, http://pastie.org/10938427
[11:25] <tomreyn> Folatt2: what's the purpose of the temporary ip address assignment?
[11:26] <tomreyn> Folatt2: i juts noticed you discussed a possibly similar topic here previously. i have not followed this converation, though, so please sum it up / provide context as needed.
[11:28] <mbwe> ok u0m3 add in the /etc/default/interfaces auto yournetworkInterface
[11:28] <noobuntu> Thanks guys for your help, things seem to be working for now
[11:29] <Folatt2> tomreyn: My network connection dropped all of a sudden yesterday, lights are on, but nothing can be pinged. We're trying to see if we can set it up manually.
[11:30] <Folatt2> Network connection of one computer
[11:30] <noobuntu> Folatt2 wired or wireless?
[11:30] <Folatt2> noobuntu: wired
[11:30] <tomreyn> Folatt2: "we", that's you and someone else who's helping you at the same physical location?
[11:31] <u0m3> mbwe, so I added auto wlan0. restarting to test, or should I do anything else?
[11:31] <Folatt2> tomreyn: No, just me and whoever helped me here.
[11:31] <Folatt2> Sorry about that
[11:31] <tomreyn> no worries ;)
[11:33] <tomreyn> Folatt2: when you say "my network connection dropped", this is the network connection of a workstation computer / desktop / laptop to your home / office router, which connects you to the internet, i assume?
[11:33] <mbwe> yes restart u0m3
[11:33] <Folatt2> But I'm still confused about networking, so I don't know what exactly the commands do and which IPs needs to be used, the terminology or how I can find out the ip of my host?
[11:33] <Folatt2> tomreyn: My desktop computer at home
[11:33] <lukastheblack> Ip addr
[11:33] <Folatt2> I'm communicating via a computer that is mdeant to be a server computer.
[11:34] <Folatt2> I just plugged in a keyboad and monitor
[11:35] <parakovsky_> Thinkpad l520 and latest Ubuntu, why video lags in firefox, also rental videos doesnt work, how to fix?
[11:35] <parakovsky_> All on youtube
[11:35] <tomreyn> Folatt2: so you have a desktop computer, which has a single network interface card in use, which has an ethernet cable plugged in which connects to the other computer, which is meant to be used as some kind of server?
[11:38] <mbwe> u0m3_: and?
[11:39] <tomreyn> Folatt2: the above question is still valid, here's the next one: When you say you are "communicating via [..] a server", does this mean that you are trying to connect to the internet through this other 'server' computer?
[11:41] <Folatt2> tomreyn: yes, yes, not directly, uhmm... put it this way, I have a modem/router connected to three server computers, one that has a DE so I can connect to it via my desktop computer that can I use for programming in a clean environment. The desktop one is down. The desktop one has one network card, both leds are on, it' s connected to a powerline adapter, all leds on, that leads to another powerline adapter, all leds on, that leads 
[11:42] <Folatt2> Forget about the server part.
[11:42] <Folatt2> That's of not part of the issue here,
[11:43] <tomreyn> Folatt2: what you just posted was cut off after "to another powerline adapter, all leds on, that leads " due to this IRC networks' maximum line length
[11:43] <Folatt2> To the router
[11:44] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[11:46] <Folatt2> Since everything else is working, the issue is with the desktop computer and nothing else.
[11:46] <mbwe> u0m3: ??? and
[11:47] <ioria> enble
[11:47] <skinux> What is the current rewrite package for Apache??
[11:47] <ducasse> Folatt2: ok, this desktop is what you are trying to get sorted?
[11:47] <tomreyn> Folatt2: okay, i think i understand the overall setup. so your desktop comnputer, there one with a keyboard attached, which you do the programming with, connects to another computer, which runs a desktop environment, which you usually use over the local area network (LAN). the computer running the desktop environement is also connected to a modem / router which connects it to the internet. your programming / keyboard computer is not directly
[11:47] <tomreyn> connected to anywhere else, specifically not to the router / modem.
[11:48] <u0m3> mbwe, nope, same, but I noticed that dnsmasq is actually running (via netstat) but for some reason after a while it stops resolving
[11:48] <Folatt2> tomreyn: yes
[11:49] <Folatt2> tomreyn: errr... my programming / keyboad computer is connected to my router directly, the desktop one is via powerline adapters
[11:50] <mbwe> strange, well in that case i am not sure what is the problem, i could help to try help you later on, but for now i have to go to my familily in law
[11:50] <mbwe> that was for yuo ouroumov
[11:50] <mbwe> i mean u0m3
[11:50] <u0m3> mbwe, ok, thank you for your time.
[11:51] <juacado> Hi, when I do "sudo dmidecode --type memory" I get the following:
[11:51] <juacado> Physical Memory Array... Maximum Capacity: 32 GB
[11:51] <juacado> does that mean that the motherboard of my computer can handle 32 GB RAM?
[11:52] <tomreyn> Folatt2: hmm, you got me puzzled. so actually all computers are connected to the modem/router and there is no direct connection between them?
[11:54] <Folatt2> tomreyn: router 1. pa (pa - desktop) 2. programming computer 3. rasp pi (private email server) 4. rasp pi (testing)
[11:54] <ducasse> u0m3: you can add the additional nameservers to /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base, then they will appear automatically after restarts
[11:55] <tomreyn> juacado: yes exactly
[11:55] <Ben64> juacado: not necessarily
[11:55] <Folatt2> I haven't actually tested the powerlines yet. I will do so now by putting them between this one.
[11:56] <juacado> the specs say "Up to 8GB DDR3memory – 1600MHz [2 DIMM slots (1x2GB/2x2GB/1x4GB+1x2GB/2x4GB)]" that's why it surprised me to see those 32 GB
[11:56] <tomreyn> Folatt2: thanks for this list of computers. it does not explain how they are connected to one another, though.
[11:58] <tomreyn> juacado: if there are not more than 2 dimm slots and the maximum amount of ram the motherboard can control per dimm slot is 4 gb, then 8 gb is the maximum configuration possible with this motherboard.
[11:58] <Folatt2> tomreyn: 1 = LAN1 2 = LAN2
[11:58] <Folatt2> That's how they are connected.
[12:00] <Ben64> Folatt2: so what are 3 and 4
[12:00] <CinnamonRickRoll> Hey, does anyone know if theres a way to set up workspaces (on 14.04) so that they are not viewports?
[12:00] <adrian_1908> hello. I'm trying to do the "ç" character with my keyboard. Ubuntu guides seems to suggest   ALTGR+,+c   but that gives me commas. Could someone try on their computer? Am I missing something?
[12:02] <ducasse> adrian_1908: which keyboard layout are you using?
[12:02] <adrian_1908> ducasse: German one, but the comma is in the same place as with the US layout from what I can see.
[12:03] <ducasse> adrian_1908: see if there is an 'international' layout variation of it, i'm guessing your layout doesn't have altgr enabled but just set as another alt.
[12:03] <adrian_1908> I mean, that's the only ambiguous of the three keys, right?
[12:03] <adrian_1908> ducasse: ok, i'll check that out.
[12:04] <u0m3> ducasse, just IPs or whole line "nameserver ..."?
[12:04] <Folatt2> Ben64: o_o;; None of this should matter for the actual problem at hand, but just for your curiousity, 3 and 4 are raspberry Pi's that I use and want to use as servers for email, pictures, social media, everything to not depend on google, facebook and other corporations.
[12:04] <ducasse> u0m3: whole line
[12:04] <Folatt2> Also to generate and host cryptocoins.
[12:04] <Ben64> Folatt2: the problem is you're not being very clear at all
[12:05] <monica> hi
[12:05] <adrian_1908> ducasse: that worked, thank you!
[12:06] <Folatt2> Ben64: What is not clear? I was surfing the web on my desktop computer and all of a sudden *poof*, no more internet or LAN.
[12:07] <ducasse> adrian_1908: yw
[12:07] <monica> i have problem with amd 7400m gpu fan working on my hp 8460p.since xorg 1.18 released fglrx not supported any more..i hade tested so many distro.but no result.
[12:10] <parakovsky_> Hey guys
[12:10] <philippe> bonjour
[12:10] <monica> ?
[12:10] <dongs> how do I turn off GNU SCREEN statusbar.
[12:10] <parakovsky_> I am experincing this problem https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1962928
[12:10] <ducasse> !fr | philippe
[12:11] <parakovsky_> And when i try to install hal it says the package is missing
[12:11] <BluesKaj> monica, what does sudo ubuntu-drivers list , show for your gpu driver
[12:11] <parakovsky_> How can i enable hardware abstraction method?
[12:12] <monica> im runing ubuntu 16.04.1 redeon.
[12:12] <monica> do you think  upgreading to kernel 4.7 helps me?
[12:13] <ducasse> parakovsky_: hal is _old_, it is no longer maintained for recent ubuntu versions.
[12:14] <ducasse> monica: if you need fglrx to get decent performance, your best bet is to stay on 14.04 until you can get another gpu or the open drivers have improved.
[12:17] <Folatt2> It's not the powerline adapters. I just checked.
[12:19] <ToAruShiroiNeko> hello
[12:19] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I am trying to follow this guide
[12:19] <ToAruShiroiNeko> https://www.shopping-cart-migration.com/faq/10-general-questions/140-how-can-i-add-cart2cart-ips-to-white-list
[12:19] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I am supposed to add the whitelist to the ubuntu firewall?
[12:19] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I am not familiar with whm
[12:20] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I dont want to install some random tool for this
[12:21] <Gourlay> I am contemplating buyin' an NETGEAR A6100. But can I plug it in my Ubuntu 16.04 and get it going 'out of the box'?
[12:24] <ducasse> Gourlay: see https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2235778 . i have an adapter with this chipset, it works, but you need to build the driver and from source and won't get great speeds.
[12:26] <archer121_> hi! I am trying to get a reverse ssh connection to work. I have set GatewayPorts to clientspecified in the remote machine. But still I am not able to use the reverse tunnel from the remote machine's public ip. Any idea why?
[12:26] <archer121_> here are the ssh debug information(https://paste.debian.net/790773/) and the command I used is sudo ssh -vvv -R \*:2233:localhost:22 ubuntu@52.77.221.143
[12:29] <koko> hi everyone...during instalation of xubuntu from cd it blocked and give me Ernno 5...how I can resolve it
[12:30] <jatt> koko: http://askubuntu.com/questions/65830/errno-5-input-output-error-when-trying-to-install
[12:35] <FManTropyx> one of these days I will make swap automatic
[12:37] <parakovsky_> Ducasse how to solve the problem with drm prottected online videos in ubuntu, then?
[12:37] <jarnos> I tried to boot some older kernel and it tells: "A start job is running for dev-mapper-cryptswap.device (18m 10s / no limit)" And time keeps going on.
[12:38] <ducasse> parakovsky_: no clue, sorry.
[12:40] <parakovsky_> Solved, no problem
[12:48] <the_voice_> I installed authbind
[12:48] <the_voice_> but it doesn't seem to have been added to my /usr/local/bin/authbind
[12:49] <the_voice_> I assume I shoudl jsut symlink it?
[12:55] <the_voice_> nm figured it out
[13:03] <CinnamonRickRoll> Hey, when I change my desktop background in settings (or via terminal) the actual image being displayed doesn't change. I'm using 14.04 and I installed it earlier today, so its pretty close to fresh
[13:05] <jduraj> ]]]]
[13:05] <wiener> Hi
[13:05] <BluesKaj> CinnamonRickRoll, I have to ask, is a jpg or jpeg
[13:06] <CinnamonRickRoll> JPG, I also tried PNG, this is also interesting, I just tried unhiding the desktop icons and it changed the background. However having hidden them again I am once more unable to change it, although any changes made before hand persist
[13:10] <CinnamonRickRoll> found a solution online
[13:13] <paulzz1> what is, or how can I find out the 32bit name of the 64bit libgtk-3-dev package?
[13:13] <u0m3> ducasse, you pointed to me earlier that I should add nameservers to /etc/resolfconf/resolf.conf.d/base to make them apear in /etc/resolv.conf but it does not seem to work... still only one line 127.0.0.1; any ideas why or suggestions on what I should be looking at?
[13:13] <paulzz1> lib32gtk-3-dev wasn't found
[13:14] <MonkeyDust> paulzz1  who are you talking to and about what
[13:14] <MonkeyDust> paulzz1  oh, you did ask something, didnt see
[13:15] <paulzz1> yeah I forgot to mention that I attempted to use lib32gtk-3-dev but it failed :P
[13:16] <MonkeyDust> !find libgtk-3
[13:16] <paulzz1> would libgtk-3-dev:i386 work?
[13:17] <lordcirth> Apparently architectures are separate tags, rather than package names
[13:17] <paulzz1> lordcirth: so :i386 is the tag?
[13:18] <lordcirth> paulzz1, that's the package.  It might conflict with something though.
[13:19] <paulzz1> hmm I get E: Unable to locate package libgtk-3-dev when trying to install libgtk-3-dev:i386
[13:19] <Folatt2> So now my question remains, what is my default gateway address?
[13:19] <PrinceCharming> Anyone know if i rip a dvd to iso using dd (or ddrescue) with libdvdcss2, whether said iso is copy protected or not
[13:19] <Folatt2> How do I find my defaul gateway address?
[13:19] <paulzz1> Folatt2: router ip usually
[13:20] <Folatt2> Should I use the default gateway address for this comand: sudo ifconfig enp2s0 <IP> netmask 255.255.255.0?
[13:21] <MonkeyDust> Folatt2  what's the outcome of   dig | grep SERVER
[13:21] <Folatt2> paulzz1: Well I entered my router IP for both commands that bekks insteructed me and I asked him both IP' s should be my router IP and he said "No"
[13:22] <paulzz1> Folatt2: eh well, works for me
[13:22] <Folatt2> MonkeyDust: The router IP
[13:23] <Folatt2> Well I did that and I can ping the router, but still no internet connection
[13:24] <blackflow> Folatt2: netstat -rn | grep UG
[13:25] <blackflow> Folatt2: in particular, you probably have to add a default route
[13:26] <blackflow> Folatt2: eg... route add default gw <router-ip>   (man route   for more info)
[13:26] <blackflow> chances are your gw and router are at .1 of your /24, for consumer networks probably 192.168.1.1
[13:28] <Folatt2> blackflow: Yeah I did that, just a minute on the netstat though
[13:29] <niranjan> Hi, on 16.04 lost wifi connectivity after service packs updates.
[13:30] <Folatt2> 0.0.0.0 192.168.178.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 enp2s0
[13:30] <niranjan> Even enable  wifi menu item is disabled
[13:30] <blackflow> Folatt2: can you ping google?
[13:31] <Folatt2> blackflow: no
[13:32] <Folatt2> blackflow: I can only ping 192.168.178.1
[13:32] <blackflow> Folatt2: can you ping outside by IP? eg.  ping -c 2 8.8.8.8
[13:34] <hzut> Please help me
[13:35] <Suryan> ????
[13:36] <Folatt2> blackflow: No, I can not even ping 192.168.178,31
[13:36] <hzut>  I am looking for an Alternative Search Engine, please?
[13:37] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[13:37] <Folatt2> hzut: what kind of search engine are you looking for?
[13:38] <blackflow> Folatt2: well, your routing is configured correctly (assuming the router is the gateway) so if you can't access anything past it, then I suggest the problem is on the router side.
[13:38] <blackflow> Folatt2:  is it possible that only icmp packets are throttled or blocked?
[13:39] <hzut> underground/hack/conspiracy like altalavista there are 20 years ago
[13:40] <Folatt2> blackflow: If I knew what icmp packets are and I could tell if they arew I could tell you.
[13:40] <blackflow> Folatt2: ping is based on icmp packets
[13:40] <blackflow> Folatt2: can you check if dns works, eg. run "host google.com" do you get a result?
[13:40] <CinnamonRickRoll> Hey, the 'picture opacity' setting (for desktop background) in dconf Editor doesn't seem to be doing anything, has anyone been able to get it workign?
[13:41] <blackflow> Folatt2: for that your /etc/resolv.conf must list either the router or a valid nameserver, eg. "nameserver 8.8.8.8"
[13:41] <blackflow> Folatt2: but uhm... why aren't you using dhcp?
[13:42] <Folatt2> blackflow: no servers could be reached
[13:43] <blackflow> Folatt2: with a valid resolv.conf?
[13:43] <Folatt2> blackflow: Because that's not working either. This is the only thing that has had any result so far.
[13:43] <blackflow> Folatt2: oh that's indicative if a problem at the router side
[13:43] <Folatt2> The result being thta ping works to the address I assign to,
[13:44] <Folatt2> The router is able to find all connections except for the one I have a problem with.
[13:44] <blackflow> Folatt2: I don't understand that last bit
[13:45] <blackflow> "find all connections"
[13:46] <Folatt2> blackflow: All other computers are online
[13:46] <Folatt2> blackflow: Except for one
[13:46] <One_> hello
[13:49] <blackflow> Folatt2: is it a MAC-whitelist network?
[13:49] <t3chcr0w> This is my first time using Ubuntu and Unix based OS. The firefox browser that came along with it, is it much like the Tor browser?
[13:49] <Folatt2> blackflow: no
[13:50] <SebthreeBQM10HD> t3chcr0w, no thats just  a standard Firefox,  like what would you have with wINDows to and mac
[13:50] <blackflow> Folatt2: are other computers configured by dhcp?
[13:50] <Folatt2> Yes
[13:51] <t3chcr0w> Ok, that is what I figured
[13:51] <blackflow> Folatt2: then it's simple. if you can't set it up with dhcp, there must be hardware malfunction or your router is preventing that computer to connect
[13:51] <t3chcr0w> Thanks Sebthree
[13:51] <SebthreeBQM10HD> t3chcr0w, yep sme vrsion as windows
[13:51] <Folatt2> blackflow: The connection was fine for months/years until yesterday, I was surfing the web, then all of a sudden *poof*
[13:51] <blackflow> sounds like hw malfunction :)
[13:52] <Folatt2> blackflow: Yeah, I'm thinking that as well now
[13:52] <Folatt2> blackflow: Thanks
[13:52] <Folatt2> blackflow: I guess I'll have to buy a new motherboard
[13:53] <Guest44080> I want to change the files from computer/share/x11/conf.d but system is deniging the permission what should i do?
[13:53] <SebthreeBQM10HD> stoffepojken, enn svensk :D
[13:53] <blackflow> Folatt2: did you check the  usual suspect? different port on the router, cabling?
[13:53] <t3chcr0w> Another quick newb question: The launcher to the left, how would I go about rearranging the icons up or down?
[13:54] <SebthreeBQM10HD> t3chcr0w, ok that's a good question
[13:54] <Folatt2> blackflow: The first one I haven't, let me check that one
[13:54]  * Folatt2 logs out
[13:54] <SebthreeBQM10HD> t3chcr0w, and that's a main part of the default unity question, only found iN ubuntu, not othre distros as well
[13:55] <SebthreeBQM10HD> t3chcr0w, you can't do that much with it by defult, but there's a unity tweak tool or something you can  install that will let you change it a bit
[13:55] <blackflow> t3chcr0w: drag them up or down :) you might need to "nudge" the icon a bit to the right before you can reorder
[13:55] <stoffepojken> SebthreeBQM10HD, Japp :)
[13:55] <SebthreeBQM10HD> t3chcr0w, if you right click you can add or reomve icons to it maybe, or from the icons them selves, not on Desktop Ubuntu right now,  instead one of the Ubuntu tablets and so with a later version of unity to
[13:55] <t3chcr0w> blackflow: Well hot damn, thank you very much. That was embarassingly simple.
[13:56] <blackflow> you're welcome :)
[13:56] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !unitytweak
[13:56] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hmm
[13:56] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !tweak
[13:56] <t3chcr0w> Sebthree, blackflow had it right, bring the icon to the right a little and it jumps out
[13:56] <Guest44080> hare/x11
[13:57]  * SebthreeBQM10HD  thinks Unty 7 and Unity 8 in the next Ubuntu, will be interesting
[13:57] <t3chcr0w> Sebthree, but thank you for the responses. Great help in here.
[13:58] <SebthreeBQM10HD> t3chcr0w, your new, but that software that version of Unity is uhmm years old now.  theres another version to, but that won't probably be in desktop ubuntu untill the next one.  I been enjoying it on phones and tablets though :)
[13:58] <Guest44080> sit is about calibrating my touch board, as per ubuntu help i have install touch calibrate software In that it tells me to change the conf.d file in the computer/share/x11/10-evdev.conf
[13:58] <blackflow> SebthreeBQM10HD: ur a bot?
[13:58] <SebthreeBQM10HD> properly not probably above
[13:58] <SebthreeBQM10HD> blackflow, yes no maybe why you ask
[13:58] <blackflow> SebthreeBQM10HD: you sound like one.
[13:58] <SebthreeBQM10HD> how?
[13:59] <t3chcr0w> So what is unity anyhow?
[13:59] <SebthreeBQM10HD> blackflow,  anD I  am about to use teh real bot
[13:59] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !unity
[13:59] <SebthreeBQM10HD> t3chcr0w, there are different interfaces that you can have with Linux distros
[14:00] <t3chcr0w> I am new. Used to be into computers when I was young and have recently been launched back into the cyber world with new interests, so I am sure you will be seeing me around. Time to make friends.
[14:00] <SebthreeBQM10HD> t3chcr0w,  its  not like Windows where you basically got that one itnerface and that's it really, well can mybe get one or two more working on there as well Windows, but not easilly if so
[14:00] <t3chcr0w> Ah, ok. So unity is almost like a customization tool?
[14:00] <SebthreeBQM10HD> nope
[14:00] <SebthreeBQM10HD> t3chcr0w, it's the gui for the os by default
[14:01] <SebthreeBQM10HD> the graphical user interface
[14:01] <MonkeyDust> t3chcr0w  http://imgur.com/a/9iaLJ#cMfLqdM
[14:01] <SebthreeBQM10HD> thing is there are a load of other ones Ubuntu can run as well!
[14:01] <t3chcr0w> Ah, ok, I think I understand
[14:01] <SebthreeBQM10HD> t3chcr0w, from the log in screen when you got more than one interface instlled, you can log into the one you waant to use
[14:01] <SebthreeBQM10HD> and out and back in ain
[14:02] <MonkeyDust> t3chcr0w  and http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-fpdM3UOam3Y/TzW6lrA9yNI/AAAAAAAAHuQ/5Wf9Xum-oxQ/s1600/ubuntu12.04-classic-session.png
[14:03] <SebthreeBQM10HD> t3chcr0w, Unity is an interface, that has well lots of GNOME in the background, but for the next version uhmm no not quite,  some big changes on the verge of coming properly to desktop ubuntu as well, but not untill the next release
[14:03] <t3chcr0w> Wow, lots of goo dinfo here
[14:03] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !gnome
[14:04] <MonkeyDust> t3chcr0w  never too old to learn something new
[14:04] <SebthreeBQM10HD> t3chcr0w, so many interfaces you can try, but certain things aren't just interfaces, they would put in other programs to. so muchchoice here
[14:04] <t3chcr0w> I have heard of gnome a few years back. What is the general consensus on it? was it something people really liked? Is it better than the current interfaces?
[14:05] <MonkeyDust> t3chcr0w  'better' depends on what you prefer
[14:05] <SebthreeBQM10HD> t3chcr0w, let's take something basic as an example such as  irc client, your on irc now, probably about 20 if not more made for Linux
[14:05] <ktosiek> Can I make sudo only ask for confirmation (without password) in a GUI session?
[14:05] <t3chcr0w> ok
[14:05] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ktosiek, yes I belive so, probably a setting for thatsome where, or mybe set it up without a pssword via terianl, but thre should be a  password for security
[14:06] <SebthreeBQM10HD> t3chcr0w,  how big is your Ubuntu prtition?  if you want to have some fun and start trying some things out well...
[14:06] <ktosiek> SebthreeBQM10HD: I specifically don't want just "NOPASSWORD"
[14:07] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ktosiek, I think there's a  setting in the gui, or maybe this would work via a terminal for no password at all.   sudo  passwd yourusername  and put in no password
[14:07] <SebthreeBQM10HD> confirm that
[14:07] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ktosiek, why woudn't you want a password though ?
[14:07] <ktosiek> well, that would remove the password from my account
[14:07] <t3chcr0w> Eh, my partition is sized to the OS, so what, ~16G?
[14:08] <SebthreeBQM10HD> t3chcr0w, aout 16gb is  good size
[14:08] <SebthreeBQM10HD> t3chcr0w, unless you start putting lots of big data in there,  since you won't have a seperate /home by default, but for trying out other interfaces and programs  in generl from the deafult ubuntu repos resporitories thta's big enough
[14:08] <ktosiek> I only don't want to type it while I'm already logged into a session, but I still want to be asked for a confirmation before some program uses sudo
[14:09] <SebthreeBQM10HD> t3chcr0w, you should take a look at the ubuntu manual as well actually
[14:09] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !manual
[14:09] <MonkeyDust> t3chcr0w  partitioning is the hard part ... what'sz the output of    df -h|grep ^/dev      use a pastebin http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[14:09] <t3chcr0w> Absolutely. I just got into this OS with the last few days. Have links to the documentation that I am going to read soon. I am juggling that with also trying to teach myself Python coding
[14:10] <t3chcr0w> !manual
[14:10] <SebthreeBQM10HD> t3chcr0w, do you want to try some other interfaces for the os to ?
[14:11] <t3chcr0w> Definitely interested, but would it be wise to get to know what I have first before I dive into others?
[14:13] <SebthreeBQM10HD> t3chcr0w, up to you,  when your ready for it, thre's whole  world of fun
[14:13] <SebthreeBQM10HD> KDE, GNOME, etc etc
[14:13] <t3chcr0w> That is exactly why I got back into this. Felt like I was missing out on something
[14:14] <t3chcr0w> Ok, I have to go and get my life together I guess. Thanks for the help everyone!
[14:15] <hzut> bonjour
[14:15] <foormea> hi. posted this on #kubuntu but the chan is not very active, so i'm posting here too:     i've got kubuntu on a desktop, i650 processor. it works fine. going to sleep works, but when it leaves sleep the screen doesn't go back up. i can see in /var/log/syslog that it wakes up fine, nothing seems bad in the logs
[14:21] <jon5000> need some assistance setting up a printer... anyone?
[14:22] <lordcirth> !ask | jon5000
[14:22] <ioria> foormea, this works for xubuntu (about kde idk), switch to console and back in the X session (ctrl+alt+fX)
[14:23] <foormea> ioria: http://askubuntu.com/questions/760381/wont-come-back-from-suspend-16-04-lts     suggests it might be a kernel bug. i'll try to go into console then back to x
[14:23] <ioria> foormea, ok
[14:24] <jon5000> I plugged in my HP printer directly to my lenovo yoga 13 ubuntu 16.04 and nothing happens.  when i try to add a printer it doesnt show up and i need to figure out how to add it. do i need a URI or something? lost
[14:25] <foormea> jon5000: google up: "<your printer model> linux" for a start
[14:25] <foormea> and tell us what printer model you have too :)
[14:25] <BluesKaj> jon5000, which HP printer ?
[14:29] <jon5000> BluesKaj, hp deskjet f4400
[14:29] <jon5000> BluesKaj, hp deskjet f4480
[14:32] <foormea> jon5000: i've got no experience with hp printers in linux. first link of "f4400 linux" brings to: http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/models/deskjet_aio/deskjet_f4400_series.html       which says that it should work with hplip. i think hplip is installed by default. try running the command:     hp-setup
[14:43] <JustinHitla> I noticed when someone joins and quit this channel 10 times, fast, he get klined, how can I do that to my channel ?
[14:47] <gparted_stuck> hello, is it ok to interrupt partition resize in gparted? will it cause data loss? it's been doing it for a few hours, I think it stuck in some infinite loop or something
[14:47] <JustinHitla> gparted_stuck: what top says ? is it consumes CPU or ionice is it write or read anything ?
[14:47] <gparted_stuck> there is no progress or anything, just "using libgparted"
[14:48] <JustinHitla> gparted_stuck: open terminal and run top and ionice
[14:48] <JustinHitla> gparted_stuck: next time copy files somwhere then resize partition using cfdisk then copy files back
[14:48] <k1l> gparted_stuck: how big is the partition?
[14:49] <gparted_stuck> it was 180 gb, new size is 100 gb
[14:49] <JustinHitla> gparted_stuck: if you kill it you can lose data
[14:49] <gparted_stuck> JustinHitla: top shows gpartedbin 1.3% cpu usage
[14:50] <JustinHitla> how resizing is even possible, its so tricky so its prone to errors
[14:50] <BluesKaj> jon5000, you can add the printer directly from the Printing console, by going to Find a Network Printer, and then selecting the printer, and then accepting the default connection of a "Remote CUPS printer via DNS-SD
[14:50] <JustinHitla> gparted_stuck: what about "iostat -m 1"
[14:50] <gparted_stuck> it's doing something to hdd i can tell, the led is on
[14:50] <JustinHitla> keep it for a day or two then reboot
[14:52] <JustinHitla> gparted_stuck: or can you mount it readonly and look if you can copy files to some other place first ?
[14:52] <reinecath> !Xon James Bond 006 - Doctor No (Dr No) - Ian Fleming (retail) (azw3).rar
[14:52] <JustinHitla> gparted_stuck: you may be able to freeze gparted process copy files and then kill it or continue
[14:52] <reinecath> !Xon James Bond 007 - Goldfinger - Ian Fleming (retail) (azw3).rar
[14:52] <JustinHitla> !?
[14:54] <sandisufiandi> Hello world, is someone here using Nvidia Jetson TK1?
[14:54] <gparted_stuck> JustinHitla: iotop shows gpartedbin does read and write with speed < 1000 K/s most of the time, with that speed I guess it will take forever
[14:54] <JustinHitla> it will
[14:54] <zach2825> hey guy im stuck, im on ubuntu 16.04, i've installed apache2 php5.6 and xdebug but now when i run php -v in terminal i get this error: Failed loading /usr/lib/php/20131226/xdebug.so:  /usr/lib/php/20131226/xdebug.so: undefined symbol: zend_sort
[14:55] <zach2825> has anybody come across that?
[14:56] <avioniii> hello. in system settings | details, it says my hard drive is double the size of what it actually is.. why would it do that?
[14:57] <shaun> Hi, I'm using Ubuntu-mate and would like to use the windows (Super) key to maximize, minimize and tiled horizontal/vertical windows? Any suggestions on how to do this?
[14:57] <JustinHitla> shaun: xbindkeys ?
[14:57] <gparted_stuck> zach2825: try running ldd /usr/lib/php/20131226/xdebug.so and see if there are missing dependencies, not sure this will help but I'd give it a try
[14:58] <zach2825> gparted_stuck, thank you! i didnt think about that
[14:59] <shaun> JustinHitla, is xbindkeys similar to dconf-editor? Because thats what I've been tinkering with and its very difficult to get that to work?
[15:00] <JustinHitla> shaun: xbindkeys allows you to bind any key combination to some event
[15:00] <JustinHitla> I have this:
[15:00] <JustinHitla> Shift+Alt + l
[15:00] <JustinHitla> "xscreensaver-command -lock"
[15:00] <JustinHitla> and when I press "Shift+Alt + l" it locks the screen
[15:00] <JustinHitla> shaun: its in ~/.xbindkeysrc
[15:01] <shaun> JustinHitla: thank you let me give it a try
[15:03] <tpw_rules> hey. i've got a file on an external volume, let's say /volume
[15:03] <tpw_rules> i try to delete it. it ends up in /volume/.Trash-1000, but nautilus does not show it in the gui and the operation cannot be undone. why isn't that trash linked to the one on root?
[15:03] <shaun> just out of curiosity, would using compiz manager be an easier fix? it seems like .xbindkeysrc seems to have its own protocol
[15:04] <JustinHitla> shaun: no idea
[15:04] <TomAtreides> tpw_rules: if you're using gui make sure "show hidden files" is checked, see if it shows up then
[15:05] <tpw_rules> TomAtreides: nope. i'd expect it to be accessible by clicking trash on the sidebar, right?
[15:09] <TomAtreides> http://askubuntu.com/questions/229098/how-to-i-stop-ubuntu-making-trash-folder-in-each-device perhaps this may be able to help? it's made for 12.04 but should still be relevant
[15:09] <BluesKaj>  control panel to prevent theW10 upgrade, but I removed it, but still haven't had an update since july6
[15:10] <tpw_rules> TomAtreides: i mean i want it to create a .trash folder so i can use the trash. the problem is that deleted files get moved to .trash, but there's no way to recover them from the GUI
[15:10] <tpw_rules> they're not in the 'Trash' icon.
[15:20] <glitchd> i was told that pae enable kernels installed by default in 16.04 and above, is that correct?
[15:26] <preguntator> hello, anybody there?
[15:27] <glitchd> yep..
[15:27] <BluesKaj>  !ask
[15:28] <BluesKaj> instant gratification raises it's ugly head once more
[15:29] <WaV> Trying to install the latest version of Konversation from source because the only available version via apt-get is the older one, and the newer one supposedly has a bugfix for a problem I'm having. Well, aparently there are a lot of dependencies. One of them being KF5 (among the few others I already downloaded via apt-get), which I can't find. Is that available under any specific package?
[15:30] <glitchd> trying to enable more than 3 gigs of ram on 16.04.1 x86
[15:31] <ritztech> anyone have a quick way to use a system to every few minutes curl/post data to AWS to send data to and then send data to retreive it like a live monitor (but
[15:31] <ritztech> i was looking at pubnub
[15:36] <fenix_peregrino> hey guys is someone expert on Windows security?
[15:37] <fenix_peregrino> #windows
[15:37] <glitchd> fenix_peregrino, lol wrong room bud
[15:38] <fenix_peregrino> glitchd: I know lol, how do you look for channels? I forgot lol :(
[15:38] <BillK[GR]> fenix_peregrino: /list
[15:39] <JustANerd> Hi
[15:39] <nikopol_> hola como cambio de sala a uno que sea en español?
[15:39] <glitchd> fenix_peregrino, server->list channels
[15:39] <BillK[GR]> nikopol_: Please type in English, no Spanish here
[15:39] <JustANerd> no i cant speak spain only english and german
[15:40] <ln-sd> ?
[15:40] <gadgix> nikopol_: #ubuntu-es
[15:40] <glitchd> ln-sd, ??
[15:41] <MannyLNJ> Is there a simple way to remove all packages I installed within the last 24 hours?
[15:41] <JustANerd> what is the reason for this chat
[15:41] <nikopol_> #debian-ar
[15:42] <JustANerd> just delet them
[15:42] <MannyLNJ> JustANerd, was that to me
[15:42] <nikopol_> join #debian-ar
[15:42] <JustANerd> yes
[15:42] <JustANerd> no nikipol
[15:43] <nikopol_> como cambio de sala
[15:44] <MannyLNJ> JustANerd, How do I get a list of all packages installed in last 24 hours
[15:45] <JustANerd> sry i dont know
[15:45] <BillK[GR]> MannyLNJ: cat /var/log/dpkg.log | grep install --> Give you the installation date of all the packages
[15:45] <JustANerd> do you run it in virtual box or at a real pc
[15:46] <MannyLNJ> BillK[GR], thank you
[15:46] <glitchd> MannyLNJ, There are logs of dpkg in /var/log/dpkg.log*
[15:46] <glitchd> whoops..
[15:46] <JustANerd> i am going to install ubuntu mate at my laptop
[15:47] <MonkeyDust> JustANerd  cat /var/log/dpkg.log | grep "\ install\ "
[15:48] <BillK[GR]> MannyLNJ: cat /var/log/dpkg.log | grep install | grep '2016-08-19\|2016-08-20' would give you the packages installed in the last two days
[15:48] <ln-sd> ?
[15:48] <MonkeyDust> !
[15:49] <glitchd> trying to open synaptic gives me this error
[15:49] <glitchd> sudo synaptic
[15:49] <glitchd> Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keyFailed to connect to Mir: Failed to connect to server socket: No such file or directory
[15:49] <glitchd> Unable to init server: Could not connect: Connection refused
[15:49] <glitchd> (synaptic:20827): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0.0
[15:50] <glitchd> can anyone help me figure out why?
[15:50] <glitchd> pls?
[15:50] <MonkeyDust> glitchd  next time, use a !pastebin
[15:51] <glitchd> MonkeyDust, to paste 4 lines? geeze..
[15:51] <BillK[GR]> glitchd: try this -> export DISPLAY=:1
[15:52] <sasaikudasai>  /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER sasaikudasai muptwagjqiaf
[15:52] <MannyLNJ> sasaikudasai, You posted to the channel
[15:52] <glitchd> BillK[GR], what does that do?
[15:52] <ayush1> hi my apt get is giving me the following error when ever i want to install or remove http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23075865/
[15:52] <MonkeyDust> sasaikudasai  change your password
[15:52] <ayush1> how do i fic that
[15:53] <ayush1> sasaikudasai: what a long password that is
[15:53] <MonkeyDust> ayush1  did you try   apt-get -f install
[15:53] <ayush1> MonkeyDust: yes but it did not work
[15:53] <MonkeyDust> ayush1  what's the ouptut of   cat /etc/issue
[15:53] <MonkeyDust> output*
[15:54] <TomAtreides> sasaikudasai: awkward
[15:54] <MannyLNJ> Trying to find a mail solution to let me get mail from my provider's POP system and host it internally on an IMAP server. Suggestions and ideas.
[15:54] <ayush1> MonkeyDust: Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS \n \l
[15:55] <MonkeyDust> ayush1  I picked this up in this channel ... save it as 'fixpackages' ... make executable with 'chmod +x fixpackages' ... then run it with './fixpackages' ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/15121279/
[15:55] <ayush1> MonkeyDust: wow
[15:56] <chris__> hallo
[15:56] <BillK[GR]> ayush1: did you google search? take a look at this http://askubuntu.com/questions/621284/unmet-dependencies-when-trying-to-install-kde-plasma-5-3-on-ubuntu-15-04
[15:56] <SebthreeBQM10HD> chris__,  hi
[15:58] <ayush1> BillK[GR]: OMG it worked
[15:59] <ayush1> BillK[GR]: thank u
[15:59] <BillK[GR]> ayush1: no problem mate
[16:02] <anonymous_> nice
[16:03] <anonymous_> who wanna be my friend
[16:12] <Megalex> if I comment out Subsystem sftp /usr/lib/openssh/sftp-server
[16:12] <Megalex>  from /etc/ssh/sshd_config does that disable sftp?
[16:13] <bekks> Megalex: What are you actually trying to achieve?
[16:13] <Megalex> Configure openssh's sftp server
[16:13] <bekks> Then why do you want to disable it? And what do you want to configure, in particular?
[16:14] <Megalex> Well I don't know how to configure it so i thought I'd just disable it
[16:14] <bekks> Megalex: What do you want to configure there?
[16:15] <bekks> Megalex: And why do you want to disable it otherwise?
[16:15] <Megalex> Well i wanted to poke around the config file to see what could be done
[16:15] <bekks> Whats not ok with the default configuration?
[16:15] <Megalex> just learning
[16:15] <Megalex> knowledge :)
[16:15] <Megalex> is lacking
[16:15] <bekks> Megalex: Then read the man page instead of nuking your configs :)
[16:16] <bekks> Megalex: "man sshd_config"
[16:16] <Megalex> oh cool, how would I have known of a manual page for that without you having told me?
[16:17] <bekks> Megalex: you could have asked?
[16:17] <Megalex> "teach a man to fish"
[16:17] <bekks> Correct, thats what I just did.
[16:17] <Megalex> well you told me where the fish is
[16:17] <Megalex> as opposed to giving me the fish
[16:17] <bekks> Megalex: From that point of view, "learning how to fish" would be "learning to read". Go figure.
[16:18] <SchrodingersScat> Megalex: also when you read the man page of an ssh thing, it should have a 'See Also:' which then has items like, scp(1), sftp(1), ssh(1), ssh-add(1), ssh-agent(1), ssh-keygen(1), ssh-keyscan(1), chroot(2), hosts_access(5), moduli(5), sshd_config(5), inetd(8), sftp-server(8)
[16:18] <Megalex> SchrodingersScat, cool! so basically just poke around man files until I find things that look relevant
[16:19] <SchrodingersScat> purty much
[16:19] <Megalex> cool well now I got a lot more to read. thanks for the pointers
[16:19] <bekks> Megalex: No, you ask sane questions like "guys, where can I find information on xyz" instead of "teach me how to break the config for xyz".
[16:19] <SchrodingersScat> there may be a way to search too...
[16:19] <Megalex> thanks you too bekks even if you're kinda rude :)
[16:21] <bekks> Megalex: Oh, so telling you where to find the information about the sshd_config is being rude? I'll note that for your next question. Good luck.
[16:22] <Megalex> Stop playing victim
[16:23] <bekks> Megalex: Stop telling people how to support you. Accept the help you get when asking, or stop asking. I'm not a victim, I'm a volunterr supporter. If you dont like it that way, it is up to you.
[16:24] <bekks> Megalex: Oh, and to finish this discussion: *plonk*
[16:26] <salamanderrake> who/what/when/where do I ask to have a package -updated- -backported- for the latest stable release of ubuntu? the latest release of pidgin is 2.11.* but ubuntu 16.04 has 2.10.* which has security issuses with it and also I am getting messages from yahoo that my client version will no longer work as of the 31st of Aug.
[16:27] <salamanderrake> https://gist.github.com/salamanderrake/cf5b70430f7f4c989eae8d22c4fcf2ac
[16:28] <SchrodingersScat> salamanderrake: is this it? https://launchpad.net/pidgin
[16:28] <skinux> What is APACHE_LOCK_DIR supposed to be defined as?
[16:29] <salamanderrake> SchrodingersScat: yes
[16:30] <salamanderrake> SchrodingersScat: this is the new site, https://pidgin.im/
[16:31] <sorryclub> hello
[16:31] <salamanderrake> SchrodingersScat: if there is a better yahoo messenger client then pidgin let me know, I would not use it if I was able to get my Dad to stop using yahoo
[16:32] <sorryclub> Some people say that Chinese do
[16:33] <Megalex> Chinese do what?
[16:33] <Megalex> suspense is killing me
[16:33] <salamanderrake> SchrodingersScat: never mind, I will just use kopete
[16:34] <sorryclub> 大家好
[16:35] <Megalex> I can't see chinese characters :(
[16:35] <SchrodingersScat> salamanderrake: saying maybe you want to contact one of those people, or post a question.
[16:35] <salamanderrake> ok
[16:35] <sorryclub> Adding system character set
[16:36] <sorryclub> Chinese friends have been here for the night, ready for bed, my voice could not communicate well with the Google translation, I do not know you can not understand
[16:36] <SchrodingersScat> salamanderrake: moving away from yahoo services isn't the worst idea, they're an arsonist company, but that also doesn't guarantee that that version won't work, guess we'll see.
[16:37] <salamanderrake> yeah
[16:37] <Megalex> sorryclub, google translate is not very good at translation. it can be hard to understand :)
[16:37] <salamanderrake> once discord comes out, if ever, for linux I will try to move him to it instead, or some other chat service.
[16:38] <Megalex> salamanderrake, who is he chatting with if he's so willing to switch solution?
[16:38] <reisio> Megalex: what's better?
[16:38] <Megalex> reisio, learning english lol
[16:38] <sorryclub> Good night to you friends！
[16:38] <Megalex> goodnight sorryclub
[16:38] <reisio> mumble's probably what you want for Unix systems
[16:38] <salamanderrake> Megalex: me and my sis, as far as I know, but he did do the dating site thing.
[16:38] <Megalex> dating site on yahoo chat?
[16:39] <salamanderrake> Megalex: no, they had yahoo contacts, he had a yahoo contact, so they would comunicate through yahoo.
[16:39] <salamanderrake> he is living in stone age.
[16:39] <Megalex> haha
[16:39] <Uncle_Bob> ay ubuntu people
[16:41] <Megalex> salamanderrake, facebook messenger? https://messengerfordesktop.com/
[16:41] <salamanderrake> yeah, he is on that too
[16:41] <salamanderrake> honestly I don't really know why he is on yahoo
[16:42] <Megalex> that client seems to run on all OS so it would be easy to get him on it
[16:42] <Megalex> and then you can talk via phone/desktop/web
[16:42] <salamanderrake> you trying to make this worse for me?
[16:42] <mlvmhn> how much RAM do i need for 16.04 LTS?
[16:43] <salamanderrake> mlvmhn: all of it.
[16:43] <k1l> !bug | salamanderrake
[16:43] <salamanderrake> thanks k1l
[16:43] <mlvmhn> i mean how many GB of RAM?
[16:43] <Megalex> salamanderrake, i dunno lol, you asked for another IM solution and that one exists and you all probably already have a facebook account
[16:43] <k1l> salamanderrake: file a bug there for that yahoo account thing. and see if that is yahoo stopping the chat  or pidgin.
[16:44] <salamanderrake> he is on windows, I am on linux.
[16:44] <salamanderrake> ok
[16:44] <k1l> mlvmhn: didnt we link you that the last days several times?
[16:44] <salamanderrake> ubuntu-bug pidgin
[16:44] <Megalex> salamanderrake, https://messengerfordesktop.com/ has a windows and linux version
[16:44] <skinux> What is APACHE_LOG_DIR supposed to be #httpd told me to ask in here
[16:44] <salamanderrake> sorry all I am moron
 mlvmhn: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[16:44] <Bashing-om> mlvmhn: 2 Gigs or more for a good experience .
[16:46]  * eelstrebor tried to do a network upgrade from 14.04.5 LTS to 16.04.1 LTS on 6 machines and they all failed - had to do a fresh install on all of them to make them boot again
[16:47] <mlvmhn> i have 4 GB of RAM and now i have used 3.7 GB. not having a good experience
[16:47] <Megalex> I installed xubuntu on my machine with 4gb ram and it runs really well
[16:47] <Megalex> I think unity isn't ideal for that low ram
[16:48] <BluesKaj> eelstrebor, are you saying the installation failed to boot or the upgrade itself failed
[16:48] <Megalex> Chrome takes several seconds to open but once it's open it runs smoothly
[16:48] <skinux> That messenger doesn't work. It just keeps loading and loading
[16:48] <mlvmhn> Megalex: xubuntu and ubuntu are two different os
[16:48]  * eelstrebor still has a problem on one box where the touchpad laft and right click won't work - the mouse can be moved with the touchpad though - bug report submitted
[16:48] <Megalex> mlvmhn, what do you mean? it's not just a different window manager?
[16:48] <skinux> mlvmhn: Not! Ubuntu just has Unity and Xubuntu has Xfce...just different desktop environments.
[16:49] <Megalex> skinux, messenger for desktop?
[16:49] <BluesKaj> Megalex, watch chrome for a memory leak in about 10 mins
[16:49] <eelstrebor> BluesKaj, the machines wouldn't boot
[16:49] <k1l> mlvmhn: no. its the same OS with a different desktop
[16:49] <skinux> Megalex: Yeah, just keeps doing the blue loading thing
[16:49] <BluesKaj> after launch
[16:49] <mlvmhn> it is lower specs reqs for xubuntu
[16:49] <eelstrebor> BluesKaj, after the upgrade finished
[16:49] <Megalex> BluesKaj, is that chrome's fault?
[16:50] <Megalex> mlvmhn, I think you can install xfce on your current install and change the default window manager to xfce
[16:50] <Megalex> instead of reinstalling xubuntu
[16:50] <Bashing-om> mlvmhn: Unused memory is wasted memory : http://www.linuxatemyram.com/ | A short primer on Linux memory management can be found here: http://sourcefrog.net/weblog/software/linux-kernel/free-mem.html .
[16:50] <mlvmhn> what in ubuntu 16.04 is taking all my RAM?
[16:50] <skinux> I wish FB's Web Messenger feature would update friends' online status more frequently.
[16:50] <eelstrebor> chrome works fine on my system with about 23 tabs opened - i have 16 GB of ram
[16:51] <BluesKaj> Megalex, well it used 5.6GB out of 6GB RAM available in system monitor process table
[16:51] <k1l> mlvmhn: please pastebin the output of "free -m"
[16:51] <skinux> I've 14 tabs open, 4G RAM and my system is sluggish on Latest Ubuntu
[16:51] <reisio> works fine on my system, 'cause it's almost never open :)
[16:51] <seednode> I have 6 tabs open, Chrome is using 620MB
[16:51] <Grorco> does anyone use thunderbird for their irc chat?
[16:51] <skinux> Why would you use an email client for IRC??
[16:51] <seednode> No, too bloated for an IRC client for me; I tend to use hexchat for gui
[16:52] <seednode> or weechat/irssi
[16:52] <Megalex> Mem:          ttl 3941        used 112       free 3353
[16:52] <Megalex> that's a lot of wasted ram lol
[16:52] <lordcirth> I didn't know Thunderbird even did chat
[16:52] <mlvmhn> i have changed my swap to start when i have 10 % of RAM left
[16:52] <reisio> skinux: ha, you use an irc client for irc
[16:52] <lordcirth> mlvmhn, look into zram instead of swap
[16:52] <reisio> s-qu-are
[16:52] <k1l> mlvmhn: you know that swap makes your system very slow?
[16:53] <seednode> mlvmhn, you'd probably only want swap to start once you have 0% of RAM left, as otherwise you're slowing down for no reason
[16:53] <BluesKaj> Megalex, guess i'm an anomaly :-)
[16:53] <Grorco> I've been using hexchat I like it, but it would me nice to use one app. I wanted to know if it was slow for everyone else lol
[16:53] <seednode> The OS knows how to release RAM that's not needed to make way for other, more active processes
[16:53] <seednode> So no need to start swapping early afaik
[16:53] <seednode> Grorco, thunderbird's IRC is slow, yes
 mlvmhn: please pastebin the output of "free -m"
[16:53] <berik> Hi all!
[16:53] <seednode> Hi
[16:53] <Megalex> BluesKaj, well to be fair this linux box is just running a vpn server haha, it doesn't have anything else running than xfce as far as gui is concerned
[16:54] <Grorco> yeah I can't take this, thanks guys
[16:54] <Megalex> but xfce is surprisingly low in memory requirement and looks nice
[16:56] <reisio> Xfce's pretty great
[16:56] <kayk718> hi
[16:56] <reisio> hi kay
[16:56] <dwx> selam aleykum  kekolar
[17:00] <GaryHost> so I am a noob
[17:00] <GaryHost> https://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary#jessie
[17:00] <GaryHost> it is telling me the deb command is invalid
[17:01] <GaryHost> deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie main contrib non-free
[17:01] <reisio> sure youˈre in the right channel?
[17:01] <k1l> GaryHost: this is #ubuntu for ubuntu support, you might want to ask #debian for debian support
[17:01] <GaryHost> fuck me
[17:01] <SchrodingersScat> GaryHost: this is ubuntu, if you're running ubuntu you probably shouldn't mix and match repos
[17:01] <SchrodingersScat> !ohmy | GaryHost
[17:01]  * GaryHost blows brains out
[17:01]  * reisio washes up
[17:06] <Grorco> I have a question about bash scripts, I wrote one to open Pycharm and then move it to a different workspace with some help. But now I can't seem to get it to work with Thunderbird and don't understand why. When the curser just blinks what does that mean?
[17:07] <netvixtra> Grorco: hardcoded paths?
[17:08] <Grorco> [calBackendLoader] Using libical backend at /usr/lib/thunderbird/extensions/{e2fda1a4-762b-4020-b5ad-a41df1933103}/components/libical-manifest     pops up and then does nothing.
[17:09] <Grorco> netvixtra, not on my end. I'm calling them with the terminal commands
[17:12] <Grorco> netvixtra, I figured it out. I just needed to type that :) it was %u stopping it
[17:13] <the_gentleman> hi
[17:13] <netvixtra> Grorco: checking everything a second time before hitting irc is a good thing :-)
[17:13] <JakesDen> I have tried to triple boot my laptop with 3 diffrent distros the only problem is the grub install only shows the last one i installed no others, what do i do?
[17:13] <the_gentleman> where you all from
[17:14] <the_gentleman> i hate it when the grub bugs out and shows up on start up, always give up after trying to research a resolution
[17:14] <Bashing-om> JakesDen: Have you ' sudo update-grub ' in the primary operating system ?
[17:14] <Grorco> netvixtra, like I said I had help with the script I'm not great with the command line. I don't even know what %u does :(
[17:14] <reisio> JakesDen: pick one grub installation to be the primary
[17:14] <JakesDen> ok
[17:14] <reisio> JakesDen: inform that grub of all the others
[17:15] <reisio> JakesDen: then keep it from being replaced
[17:15] <reisio> alternatively: pick one OS, how many do you need? :p
[17:15] <JakesDen> ok i will try
[17:15] <JakesDen> you can never have enough os's
[17:15] <netvixtra> Grorco: ok :)
[17:15] <the_gentleman> any arch ninjas in here?
[17:15] <reisio> arch?
[17:15] <k1l> JakesDen: run "update-grub" on the  OS that should handle the grub
[17:16] <k1l> the_gentleman: ask the arch guys in #archlinux
[17:16] <JakesDen> i am
[17:16] <JakesDen> what do i do with all the other os's what have grub?
[17:16] <the_gentleman> sudo update grub not working for me here...
[17:16] <JakesDen> i ran it and reboot but it still only shows 1 of the distros
[17:17] <the_gentleman> @jakesden...you delete them lol
[17:17] <JakesDen> yet in the command line it detected others
[17:17] <JakesDen> why delete them?
[17:17] <k1l> JakesDen: most times its the last OS you installed. run update-grub on that
[17:17] <reisio> you don't need to delete them, but you also don't need more than one
[17:17] <JakesDen> thats the only one i can acsess
[17:17] <JakesDen> i did
[17:17] <the_gentleman> how do i get my bash up to par, i want to run linux only in terminal and hate having to be dependent on a de
[17:18] <reisio> up to what par?
[17:18] <k1l> the_gentleman: this is the ubuntu support.
[17:18] <the_gentleman> to the par that i wont need a de
[17:18] <SchrodingersScat> the_gentleman: the more you use it the more you'll know
[17:18] <the_gentleman> i know, and im running ubuntu
[17:18] <JakesDen> anyone?
[17:19] <the_gentleman> trying to setup vnc server in terminal and it is a pain like hell
[17:19] <the_gentleman> where you all from?
[17:19] <k1l> JakesDen: what OS is that?
[17:20] <SchrodingersScat> !info x11vnc | the_gentleman
[17:20] <JakesDen> i have (in order of instalation) peppermint, kubuntu and cub linux
[17:20] <k1l> JakesDen: so ask the cub linux guys what is wrong with their grub scripts if its not finding the other OSs
[17:21] <JakesDen> it happened on all the others too
[17:21] <JakesDen> i tried doing that before i installed cub linux to get peppermint to show up in grub but no luck
[17:22] <JakesDen> the command picked up all the other installes just when i rebooted they wernt in grub
[17:22] <windowsxp> hello guys
[17:22] <the_gentleman> hi xp
[17:22] <JakesDen> and the grub says gnu grub version 2.02 btw in the grub boot screen
[17:22] <k1l> JakesDen: you need to run that command on the OS that runs the grub in the MBR
[17:22] <windowsxp> it works on windows!!!!
[17:22] <JakesDen> what one would that bn
[17:22] <JakesDen> be*
[17:23] <k1l> JakesDen: sudo update-grub, if its ubuntu
[17:23] <windowsxp> well i download windows ISOs
[17:23] <JakesDen> i have a partition for boot, swap, and the other 3 os's
[17:23] <k1l> windowsxp: this is the ubuntu support. go to ##windows for windows help
[17:23] <JakesDen> i tried that already
[17:23] <JakesDen> it showed me the other os's that where installed
[17:23] <k1l> JakesDen: make sure /boot is mounted properly then
[17:24] <the_gentleman> ssh: connect to host 192.168.88.220 port 22: Connection refused
[17:24] <JakesDen> but when i rebooted it didnt
[17:24] <JakesDen> i will try now
[17:24] <JakesDen> is there a way to force it to use the boot partition for boot?
[17:25] <k1l> k1l> JakesDen: make sure /boot is mounted properly then
[17:25] <JakesDen> i will
[17:25] <the_gentleman> ssh: connect to host 192.168.88.220 port 22: Connection refused
[17:26] <JakesDen> update-grub or update-grub2
[17:26] <JakesDen> ?
[17:26] <reisio> you have both?
[17:26] <JakesDen> for some reason yes
[17:26] <the_gentleman> shouldnt you be using grub2...the newer version?
[17:26] <k1l> JakesDen: on ubuntu the commands are the same. cant tell you for other OSs
[17:26] <JakesDen> i will use 2
[17:26] <JakesDen> it is ubuntu
[17:26] <reisio> if /boot/grub/grub.cfg is unreadable, you're using GRUB2
[17:26] <JakesDen> do i use the grub one or the grub2 one
[17:27] <k1l> its not. cub linux is not a proper ubuntu
[17:27] <reisio> also grub.cfg is grub2 convention, vs grub.conf for older grub
[17:27] <the_gentleman> ok i need assistance please with vnc server setup...anyone keen to educate a nooB?
[17:27] <JakesDen> so i should use grub 2 command
[17:28] <reisio> the_gentleman: for local network?
[17:28] <reisio> JakesDen: probably, but not necessarily
[17:28] <JakesDen> sinceit uses .cfg
[17:28] <the_gentleman> yes local for now
[17:28] <the_gentleman> i get this error open trying to vnc locally: ssh: connect to host 192.168.88.220 port 22: Connection refused
[17:29] <the_gentleman> i installed vnc and all that good stuff, think i must allow the port 22, question is dont know where...
[17:29] <SchrodingersScat> the_gentleman: if you want ssh access, install openssh-server
[17:29] <shadaloo> can someone explain why after formatting my hard drive right click --> properties reports 25.1 GB used, 467.0 GB free ?
[17:29] <darkmessiah_> Hello Guys.
[17:29] <darkmessiah_> How do I enter monitor mode in aircrack-ng?
[17:29] <shadaloo> -.-
[17:29] <k1l> shadaloo: the filesystem reserves some space already.
[17:30] <JakesDen> i ran update-grub and update-grub2 and it showed me all the os's i have installed but when i rebooted gnu grub version 2.02 only displays cub linux not the others
[17:30] <shadaloo> k1l: i used msdos for the filesystem
[17:30] <MannyLNJ> using the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/POP3Aggregator I get to /etc/init.d/dovecot restart
[17:30] <MannyLNJ>  and I then get the error -bash: /etc/init.d/dovecot: No such file or directory
[17:30] <MannyLNJ>  Help please
[17:30] <shadaloo> k1l: but 25.1 GB?
[17:30] <k1l> darkmessiah_: since you do this for research and not to quick hack another wifi, do the research and read the documentation
[17:30] <k1l> shadaloo: its X %. you can lower that for ext4 if you wnat
[17:30] <crazyphil> is there a way to run apt-key via sudo?  I keep getting errors about only running as root, and I can't seem to find a way around it
[17:31] <shadaloo> k1l: why would the filesystem be taking up any space at all?
[17:31] <JakesDen> what do i do?
[17:31] <Bashing-om> shadaloo: House keeping overhead .. like a partition table and such ?? By defalt 5% .
[17:31] <th0r> shadaloo, it might be that there are two partitions on the drive. Check it with gparted
[17:31] <shadaloo> Bashing-om: why so much? housekeeping really needs 25 GB?
[17:31] <reisio> you don't really want to mess with the reserved space, usually
[17:31] <reisio> it's part of what keeps ext FSes from needing to be defragmented
[17:31] <shadaloo> th0r: I just parted it myself with 1 ext4
[17:32] <JakesDen> please help me
[17:32] <reisio> partitions aren't FSes, though
[17:32] <reisio> JakesDen: ?
[17:32] <k1l> shadaloo: one part is limited to root only use. so root can still use the OS when a user runs out of space. another reason is the filesystem making reservations for having space to backup files if the filesystem gets corrupted
[17:32] <shadaloo> k1l: Bashing-om this drive is only going to be used for media storage, do I really need all that 'housekeeping' space?
[17:33] <k1l> shadaloo: some backstory: http://askubuntu.com/questions/19504/reasonable-size-for-filesystem-reserved-blocks-for-non-os-disks
[17:33] <JakesDen> i have been trying to get help with grub picking up my other os's but it wont, i have tried grub-update and grub-update2 and they showed me the other os's but when i rebooted it doesnt show the others
[17:34] <crazyphil> nevermind, fixed it
[17:34] <JakesDen> do you want me to send the files of grub's config and partition details?
[17:35] <Bashing-om> JakesDen: Multi disks . And have you changed in Bios to boot the primary operating system drive ?
[17:35] <JakesDen> theres only 1 drive
[17:36] <JakesDen> ???
[17:38] <MannyLNJ> Will someone please help me with the my issue?
[17:39] <JakesDen> and mine
[17:40] <reisio> JakesDen: what issue?
[17:40] <reisio> use complete statements
[17:40] <JakesDen> the one i have been talking about for the last half hour here
[17:41] <JakesDen> i have been trying to get help with grub picking up my other os's but it wont, i have tried grub-update and grub-update2 and they showed me the other os's but when i rebooted it doesnt show the others
[17:41] <reisio> then you aren't updating the grub install you think you are
[17:41] <reisio> JakesDen: what're the distros/OSes you have installed, again?
[17:42] <JakesDen> i have (in order of instalation) peppermint, kubuntu and cub linux
[17:42] <k1l> JakesDen: ask the cub OS guys if they can give you a hand. we dont know if they chaged stuff there
[17:42] <JakesDen> before i installed cub linux i tried in kubuntu and the same thing happened
[17:43] <WaV> is there a way to install the kde framework via apt-get? I'm trying to install konversation from source as the version that is available via apt-get isn't the newest one and I need the kde framework.
[17:43] <reisio> JakesDen: just answer the questions, that's all you need to do
[17:43] <reisio> JakesDen: which of those three distros do you want to be your primary?
[17:44] <reisio> WaV: apt-source, was it?
[17:44] <JakesDen> the kde one but i also need the other 2
[17:44] <reisio> JakesDen: kubuntu?
[17:44] <JakesDen> yes
[17:44] <reisio> JakesDen: these are all on /dev/sda ?
[17:44] <SchrodingersScat> JakesDen: and you installed these to different roots?
[17:45] <JakesDen> do you want a screenshot of my current partitions?
[17:45] <reisio> JakesDen: ...no I merely want the answer to my question
[17:45] <JakesDen> yes i think
[17:45] <reisio> acceptable answers are: yes, /dev/sda; no, something else; and "I don't know"
[17:45] <reisio> yes I think also works
[17:45] <reisio> JakesDen: first thing you need to do, then, is boot up kubuntu, and run sudo grub-install --no-floppy /dev/sda (or grub2-install)
[17:46] <reisio> JakesDen: that will ensure your kubuntu install's grub is in control of boot loading
[17:46] <JakesDen> how can i boot up kubuntu
[17:46] <reisio> JakesDen: you don't have that option?
[17:46] <JakesDen> thats what i have said
[17:46] <reisio> JakesDen: which distro is booting?
[17:46] <JakesDen> thats what i need help with
[17:46] <JakesDen> cub linux
[17:46] <WaV> reisio: apt-source is not a valid command?
[17:46] <JakesDen> the last one i installed
[17:47] <reisio> WaV: apt-get source
[17:47] <reisio> JakesDen: okay, then you can either go into cub and update your grub config so you can boot kubuntu, or
[17:47] <reisio> JakesDen: you can boot your kubuntu install media and fix it from there
[17:47] <JakesDen> how do i update grub config to show other installs
[17:48] <WaV> reisio: Are you talking about for KDE or konversation?
[17:48] <SchrodingersScat> WaV: are you looking for apt-get build-dep ?
[17:48] <JakesDen> from cub linux
[17:48] <JakesDen> as thats the only one that shows up
[17:48] <JakesDen> in grub
[17:48] <reisio> JakesDen: something like this: mv -n /boot/grub/grub.cfg /boot/grub/0.grub.cfg; sudo grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[17:48] <reisio> WaV: for packages in general
[17:49] <WaV> SchrodingersScat: looking for KDE framework
[17:49] <JakesDen> when i run sudo update-grub it shows what installs i have but when i reboot it doesnt show them
[17:49] <SchrodingersScat> oh, excuse me then, thought you weer trying to get the dependencies for building konversation
[17:49] <WaV> actually yes pretty much
[17:50] <WaV> kde is one of them
[17:50] <JakesDen> i will run that command
[17:50] <JakesDen> the long one
[17:50] <k1l> JakesDen: is the /boot partition mounted?
[17:50] <k1l> JakesDen: is it the /boot the grub that is installed into the MBR is using?
[17:51] <JakesDen> i dont know, how do i find out
[17:51] <SchrodingersScat> WaV: man apt-get , check out build-dep, can normally install the dependencies needed for the software supplied after it, apt-get build-dep konversation , for example.
[17:51] <ovrflw0x> JakesDen, how many partitions of hard disk do you have?
[17:51] <k1l> JakesDen: "mount" will tell you
[17:52] <curlyears> heigh hough
[17:53] <JakesDen> 1 sec
[17:53] <curlyears> time's up
[17:54] <JakesDen> should i run mount and send output to a pastebin
[17:54] <ovrflw0x> yo curlie wurlie burlie curlyears
[17:54] <k1l> JakesDen: yes
[17:54] <ovrflw0x> JakesDen, just run "lsblk" and tell here how many /boot you got
[17:55] <JakesDen> so i need to do one for lsblk and mount
[17:55] <k1l> JakesDen: that would give some facts besides "i dont use ubuntu but other OS that mess my grub"
[17:55] <ovrflw0x> JakesDen, just run lsblk
[17:57] <JakesDen> here is the output for both: tiny.cc/jakecmdlog
[17:58] <SchrodingersScat> JakesDen: so the 46.6GB are /'s and then the single /boot?
[17:58] <JakesDen> yes
[17:59] <curlyears> I can't get mknod to work for me.  I am typing sudo mknod /dev/sdb b
[18:00] <Nathan88> hi guys
[18:00] <curlyears> I am trying to format a 3TB HDD
[18:00] <Megalex> what are some useful servers to run at home? i already got openvpn running, ssh, what else could be useful? :)
[18:01] <curlyears> Megalex:  useful to whom, for what?
[18:01] <JakesDen> .
[18:01] <ovrflw0x> JakesDen, which version you using? ubuntu
[18:01] <Megalex> curlyears, just brainstorm :)
[18:01] <_unreal> curlyears: what is the 3tb drive formingg issue?
[18:02] <_unreal> formating
 i have (in order of instalation) peppermint, kubuntu and cub linux
[18:02] <JakesDen> cub linux is the only one that shows up in grub at boot
[18:02] <curlyears> _unreal:   I can't glean enough information from the man or info pages to get mknod to work
[18:02] <_unreal> ok?
[18:03] <_unreal> but what are you trying t do
[18:03] <_unreal> what kind of a format
[18:03] <JakesDen> when i run update-grub it shows the other os's i have installed but when i reboot they dont show up in grub
[18:03] <Nathan88> is ubuntu used for making games?
[18:03] <_unreal> ext 3-4?
[18:03] <curlyears> \so what would be the correct syntax for the command, to format a 3TB drive as a plain EXT4 filesystem?
[18:03] <_unreal> Nathan88: it can be
[18:03] <Nathan88> sweet
[18:03] <ovrflw0x> JakesDen, try this command "sudo grub-install /dev/sda"
[18:03] <OerHeks> curlyears, just use the disks utility
[18:04] <_unreal> curlyears: mkfs.ext4 /dev/xxxx
[18:04] <curlyears> Oerheks:  what disks utility?
[18:04] <curlyears> ahhhh...thanks guys
[18:04] <JakesDen> and reboot?
[18:04] <OerHeks> curlyears, you are clever enough to find the comandline :-D
[18:04] <_unreal> curlyears: you can also use gparted
[18:04] <ovrflw0x> of course
[18:05] <JakesDen> still nope
[18:05] <ovrflw0x> what message do you get/
[18:05] <ovrflw0x> ?
[18:05] <Nathan88> i've got a business propostion for you guys
[18:06] <JakesDen> is grub stuupsed to say GNU grub version 2.02 ?
[18:06] <Nathan88> i'd like for a simple 2d top down multiplayer shooter made
[18:06] <reisio> JakesDen: that's fine
[18:06] <_unreal> show me the money
[18:06] <JakesDen> ok
[18:06] <_unreal> :)
[18:06] <SchrodingersScat> !support | Nathan88 this channel is only for ubuntu support
[18:06] <ovrflw0x> JakesDen, what message do you get?
[18:06] <Nathan88> well i was hoping we could reach an agreement based on equity
[18:07] <JakesDen> now why wont it list the other os's when grub is booted but it does when i run update-grub
[18:07] <JakesDen> i rebooted
[18:07] <JakesDen> but it sayed no errors found or something like that
[18:07] <BluesKaj> Nathan88, reaad ubottu's message above
[18:07] <ovrflw0x> JakesDen, install os-prober or something
[18:07] <SchrodingersScat> my question would be if you overwrote the /boot/ with cub linux and maybe that's why it's not going?
[18:07] <Nathan88> if this isn't the place i'll just leave]
[18:07] <k1l> JakesDen: details matter a lot.
[18:07] <JakesDen> i dunno
[18:07] <BluesKaj> this is not the place for sure
[18:08] <ovrflw0x> JakesDen, now log into ubutnu and run "update-grub"
[18:08] <k1l> JakesDen: if there is any output and you dont understand it clearly show it in pastebin.
[18:08] <ovrflw0x> see if other linux gets listed
[18:08] <reisio> JakesDen: you ran grub-mkconfig and got no new boot options?
[18:09] <JakesDen> Installing for i386-pc platform.
[18:09] <JakesDen> Installation finished. No error reported.
[18:09] <JakesDen> nope
[18:09] <reisio> JakesDen: edit /boot/grug/grub.cfg
[18:09] <JakesDen> ovrflw0x, i will run update-grub now
[18:09] <reisio> JakesDen: change any of the menuentry titles to something you can notice the change for
[18:09] <reisio> then reboot and make sure you see that change
[18:10] <JakesDen> ok reisio
[18:11] <Bashing-om> curlyears: Have you seen : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingANewHardDrive for the CLI way ?
[18:12] <ovrflw0x> JakesDen, did update grub detect?
[18:12] <reisio> JakesDen: if you don't see the change, then the grub.cfg you are editing is not related to the grub that is in control of booting
[18:12] <JakesDen> update-grub alleays lists all other os's
[18:13] <JakesDen> i will reboot now i changed the name
[18:13] <ovrflw0x> JakesDen, no jackass that won't fix it
[18:13] <JakesDen> i was just saying
[18:13] <ovrflw0x> what name did you change?
[18:13] <reisio> doesn't matter
[18:14] <JakesDen> it didnt show changes
[18:15] <reisio> JakesDen: then the grub that's loading your cub is not cub's
[18:15] <reisio> either that, or you have a fake /boot that's full of misleading information, and your proper /boot isn't mounted
[18:15] <ovrflw0x> JakesDen, are your partitions listed in grub via UUID or /dev/sdaX?
[18:16] <JakesDen> it doesnt show anything in cub linuxes /boot when the boot partition is nmounted
[18:16] <reisio> ovrflw0x: doesn't matter, that grub.cfg is not being read
[18:16] <reisio> JakesDen: you should probably just boot the kubuntu install image to fix this
[18:16] <bipul> Hello Kindly check it out this http://paste.ubuntu.net/23076328/
[18:17] <JakesDen> ok and should i see if that makes the pc boot kubuntu on grub?
[18:18] <reisio> bipul: can talk to ##linux about that, even
[18:18] <bipul> A kind of ACL's problem i am facing
[18:18] <bipul> reisio, You want me to past this link at ## linux
[18:19] <bipul> ?
[18:19] <reisio> JakesDen: boot your kubuntu install media, mount & chroot your kubuntu, then grub-install
[18:19] <reisio> JakesDen: that should put kubuntu in charge of booting, then you need only ensure kubuntu's grub.cfg lists your other installs
[18:19] <reisio> (and then avoid having any of your other distros grub-install again)
[18:19] <JakesDen> how???
[18:20] <reisio> JakesDen: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[18:20] <reisio> either of those should suffice
[18:20] <reisio> grub-install /dev/sda alone might do it
[18:20] <reisio> I forget
[18:20] <JakesDen> how i chroot my kubuntu install
[18:21] <ovrflw0x> JakesDen, on which hard disk partition in kubuntu installed?
[18:21] <ovrflw0x> is*
[18:21] <ovrflw0x> tell me /dev/sdX
[18:21] <JakesDen>  let me boot the install usb and i will find out
[18:21] <EmeraldExplorer> I'm trying to figure out the best structure for my files. Right now I have my minecraft servers in /home/mcserver/[serverName] my xenforo in /home/spyderweb/xenforo and my teamspeak in /home/teamspeak . However, is this good? Isn't it better to make a user with a home directory in /opt/[username] or something?
[18:22] <JakesDen> it will say at tiny.cc/jakecmdlog
[18:22] <reisio> EmeraldExplorer: /home/ is the ordinary place for users' homes
[18:22] <pete5x5> Hi wondering if someone can help me out with WiFi issues on a macbook air 2,1?  Have followed instructions on installing the Broadcom proprietary driver for the chip BCM4321, It says that driver is being used in System Settings -> Software & Updates, but it still doesn't work.  Thoughts?
[18:22] <JakesDen> its the second ~50gb partition
[18:22] <reisio> EmeraldExplorer: doesn't actually matter where you put things, though
[18:22] <marcinsky> hi
[18:23] <reisio> EmeraldExplorer: I will say that out of foo/bar, foo/baz, and qux, either two of those are pointlessly using another model, or one is
[18:23] <ovrflw0x> JakesDen, why are you posting mount command output?
[18:23] <EmeraldExplorer> reisio: I just see a lot of tutorials that put things in /opt/ or /someRootDirectoryIForgot/local/
[18:23] <reisio> marcinsky: hi
[18:23] <JakesDen> cause i was asked before
[18:23] <reisio> EmeraldExplorer: /opt/ is for 3rd party binary blob proprietary trash
[18:23] <JakesDen> for some reason#
[18:23] <ovrflw0x> JakesDen, are cups and kubuntu linux on usb flash drive?
[18:24] <reisio> EmeraldExplorer: if you don't like /home/, then make /servers/
[18:24] <reisio> EmeraldExplorer: doesn't matter
[18:24] <EmeraldExplorer> reisio: I like home, I just want to figure out what is good
[18:24] <JakesDen> i have kubuntu installer on usb i will boot the usb now
[18:24] <reisio> home is fine
[18:24] <ovrflw0x> wtf
[18:24] <ovrflw0x> JakesDen, what do you mean installer?
[18:24] <ovrflw0x> JakesDen, have you installed or are you trying to install?
[18:25] <JakesDen> the default one
[18:25] <ovrflw0x> wtf
[18:25] <JakesDen> the one that has the installer
[18:25] <ovrflw0x> JakesDen, you mean livecd?
[18:25] <EmeraldExplorer> reisio: would teamspeak be considered "3rd party binary blob trash"? :p
[18:25] <JakesDen> what you get from there site
[18:25] <JakesDen> yes
[18:25] <ovrflw0x> lol
[18:25] <ovrflw0x> dude wtf
[18:26] <ovrflw0x> you don't need grub to boot live usb
[18:26] <JakesDen> so how do i <reisio> JakesDen: boot your kubuntu install media, mount & chroot your kubuntu, then grub-install
[18:26] <JakesDen> ithere
[18:26] <ovrflw0x> JakesDen, no jacko
[18:26] <EmeraldExplorer> s/teamspeak/teamspeak-server
[18:26] <JakesDen> thats what i was doing
[18:26] <ovrflw0x> JakesDen, what are you ACTUALLY trying to do?
[18:26] <f380cedric_> Hi, I have a question, notify-send from libnotify-bin has urgency level, the level critical should bypass full-screen app, but it does not bypass flash/html5 full-screen, is that normal? It is really problematic for critical battery level :/
[18:26] <JakesDen> trtying to get grub to detect my others
[18:26] <JakesDen> oter os's that are installed
[18:27] <ovrflw0x> JakesDen, which OS's are ALREADY installed?
[18:27] <ovrflw0x> kubuntu is on live cd so it is NOT installed
[18:27] <JakesDen> for the 5th time now
 <JakesDen> i have (in order of instalation) peppermint, kubuntu and cub linux
[18:28] <JakesDen> cub linux is the only one in grub
[18:28] <bipul> ??
[18:28] <ovrflw0x> lol JakesDen you said kubuntu is on LIVE CD
[18:28] <reisio> f380cedric_: sounds normal, but still a bug
[18:28] <nicch_> ??
[18:28] <JakesDen> sorry
[18:28] <EmeraldExplorer> reisio: also one more question: would it be good to use /home/spyderweb/www/xenforo for www.mydomain.com ==> xenforo and /home/spyderweb/gitlab/gitlab for gitlab.mydomain.com ==> gitlab
[18:28] <nicch_> oke
[18:28] <JakesDen> i thought you where someone else
[18:28] <reisio> JakesDen: did you answer his question about which partition kubuntu was on?
[18:28] <f380cedric_> reisio, do you know if there is a launchpad bug report where somebody is working on a patch?
[18:28] <pete5x5> Hi wondering if someone can help me out with WiFi issues on a macbook air 2,1?  Have followed instructions on installing the Broadcom proprietary driver for the chip BCM4321, It says that driver is being used in System Settings -> Software & Updates, but it still doesn't work.  Thoughts?
[18:28] <JakesDen> i was told to chroot my kubuntu install from the kubuntu live cd and run grub-install
[18:29] <reisio> EmeraldExplorer: doesn't really matter; what's spyderweb?
[18:29] <bipul> reisio, Sir you know the answer?
[18:29] <ovrflw0x> rofl
[18:29] <ovrflw0x> this guy is crazy
[18:29] <reisio> f380cedric_: no, but you can check yourself
[18:29] <nicch_> hello
[18:29] <reisio> bipul: yes
[18:29] <JakesDen> ik
[18:29] <reisio> bipul: but what's the question?
[18:29] <f380cedric_> reisio, thanks :)
[18:29] <EmeraldExplorer> reisio: stuff for "the web"
[18:29] <EmeraldExplorer> just called it a weird name so people couldn't hack me as easily
[18:29] <EmeraldExplorer> s/hack/brute force
[18:29] <reisio> EmeraldExplorer: spyderweb/gitlab/gitlab looks stupid, but spyderweb/gitlab seems fine
[18:29] <reisio> EmeraldExplorer: it's just personal preference
[18:30] <reisio> EmeraldExplorer: what makes you think calling it 'spyderweb' will make it more secure?
[18:30] <ovrflw0x> JakesDen, what OS's does grub list?
[18:30] <JakesDen> cub linux
[18:30] <ovrflw0x> and...
[18:30] <ovrflw0x> can you boot into cub linux?
[18:30] <reisio> JakesDen: did you answer his question about which partition kubuntu was on?
[18:30] <EmeraldExplorer> reisio: So brute forcers won't use a commonly used username (ex: web) to gain access to my system
[18:31] <JakesDen> but when i was told to modify the name of cub linux in the /boot partition it didnt change it when i rebooted so it must be using grub somewhere else
[18:31] <reisio> EmeraldExplorer: won't make any difference
[18:31] <bipul> The question is with bipul account, I am not able to edit the content of a file test. Even though bipul is in hary group.
[18:31] <EmeraldExplorer> reisio: ehh just going by what people tell me
[18:31] <JakesDen> kubuntu is on:
[18:31] <EmeraldExplorer> they said "don't use common names"
[18:31] <reisio> EmeraldExplorer: then go by what I just told you :p
[18:31] <reisio> EmeraldExplorer: makes no difference
[18:32] <bipul> http://paste.ubuntu.net/23076328/
[18:32] <EmeraldExplorer> reisio: don't want to rip all my symlinks and too lazy to make another bash script to update them :p
[18:32] <EmeraldExplorer> might listen to you if I get another server though
[18:32] <JakesDen> its on /dev/sda8
[18:32] <reisio> EmeraldExplorer: it's fine to leave it as is, you just don't need to do that in general, FYI
[18:32] <EmeraldExplorer> reisio: OK. So since gitlab might be sypderweb/gitlab then it would only make sense to have the main xenforo as spyderweb/www
[18:33] <EmeraldExplorer> and not spyderweb/www/xenforo
[18:33] <EmeraldExplorer> correct?
[18:33] <pete5x5> Hi wondering if someone can help me out with WiFi issues on a macbook air 2,1?  Have followed instructions on installing the Broadcom proprietary driver for the chip BCM4321, It says that driver is being used in System Settings -> Software & Updates, but it still doesn't work.  Thoughts?
[18:33] <ovrflw0x> JakesDen, nothing is mounted on /dev/sda8
[18:33] <reisio> JakesDen: sudo mkdir /mnt/kubuntu; sudo mount /dev/sda8 /mnt/kubuntu; sudo mount -t proc none /mnt/kubuntu/proc; sudo mount --rbind /sys /mnt/kubuntu/sys; sudo mount --rbind /dev /mnt/kubuntu/dev; sudo chroot /mnt/kubuntu /bin/bash
[18:33] <reisio> JakesDen: then: sudo grub-install --no-floppy /dev/sda; exit
[18:33] <reisio> JakesDen: sudo umount -l /mnt/kubuntu{/sys,/dev,/proc} /mnt/kubuntu; sudo reboot
[18:34] <JakesDen> can you put that into a sh file i can wget and run on the device?
[18:34] <reisio> JakesDen: :p
[18:34] <JakesDen> cause its very long
[18:34] <bipul> reisio, ?
[18:34] <reisio> pete5x5: what doesn't work, nm-applet?
[18:35] <reisio> bipul: ?
[18:35] <JakesDen> i gtg soon so be quick
[18:35] <reisio> JakesDen: heh
[18:35] <ovrflw0x> JakesDen, dude you got nothing mounted on /dev/sda8 according to lsblk
[18:35] <JakesDen> well it isnt mounted atm ovrflw0x
[18:36] <ovrflw0x> okay
[18:36] <bipul> reisio, I asked the question in channel :)
[18:36] <ovrflw0x> JakesDen, can you boot into kubuntu?
[18:36] <JakesDen> it isnt set to auto mount
[18:36] <EmeraldExplorer> reisio: OK. So since gitlab might be sypderweb/gitlab then it would only make sense to have the main xenforo as spyderweb/www , correct?
[18:36] <pete5x5> reisio: not sure what's not working, not really sure even how to start troubleshooting TBH.  Wifi shows up in top-right bar, but no networks are available even though it seems to be using the correct driver
[18:36] <JakesDen> how do i boot into kubuntu
[18:36] <EmeraldExplorer> and not spyderweb/www/xenforo
[18:36] <reisio> EmeraldExplorer: as opposed to?
[18:36] <reisio> bipul: what question?
[18:36] <ovrflw0x> JakesDen, bye man use something simler
[18:36] <ovrflw0x> simpler
[18:36] <EmeraldExplorer> reisio: just so I can be consistent with naming practices
[18:37] <JakesDen> can i try to do what reisio is trying to tell me first
[18:37] <reisio> EmeraldExplorer: I don't know what you're comparing, but 'www' and 'gitlab' match nicely enough
[18:37] <ovrflw0x> JakesDen, sometimes you say Kubuntu is on USB LIVE disk and sometimes you say it is on /dev/sda8? WTF?
[18:37] <bipul> reisio, The question is with bipul account, I am unable to edit the content of a file test. Even though bipul is in hary group. http://paste.ubuntu.net/23076328/
[18:38] <reisio> bipul: I'd ask ##linux about that
[18:38] <EmeraldExplorer> reisio: old: xenforo (www.domain.com): spyderweb/www/xenforo, gitlab (gitlab.domain.com):  spyderweb/gitlab/gitlab ==> new: spyderweb/www and spyderweb/gitlab
[18:38] <JakesDen> reisio, can you put the commands in a sh file on transfer.sh please
[18:38] <bipul> reisio,  ok :)
[18:38] <JakesDen> i have the usb installer and it has been installed ob my laptop as well
[18:39] <JakesDen> reisio, ?
[18:39] <wolfmitchell> Does the installer iso for ubuntu server have liveusb support? Or just the instaler?
[18:39] <wolfmitchell> installer *
[18:40] <YankDownUnder> wolfmitchell: Yes, bro.
[18:40] <wolfmitchell> mmk, just making sure
[18:40] <netvixtra> Damn, Spotify uses alot of power.
[18:40] <reisio> JakesDen: http://dpaste.com/07ZQ120.txt
[18:42] <JakesDen> will run now
[18:43] <JakesDen> rebooting
[18:43] <JakesDen> reisio, k
[18:43] <reisio> k
[18:44] <JakesDen> now grub is a command line
[18:44] <JakesDen> what u done now
[18:44] <damien__> i have a burn in issue on my monitor any ideas
[18:45] <Antipsychiatry> Psychiatry MUST be abolished!!!!!!!!
[18:45] <reisio> JakesDen: what'd grub-install say?
[18:45] <MonkeyDust> Antipsychiatry  wrong channel
[18:45] <reisio> Antipsychiatry: would probably be alright, yeah
[18:45] <reisio> damien__: new monitor?
[18:45] <JakesDen> no issues found
[18:45] <JakesDen> i think
[18:46] <JakesDen> can i use the grub command line to boot kubuntu and run grub-install
[18:46] <Antipsychiatry> Monkey? I read here ...maybe is one interested to abolish this FAKE .
[18:46] <JakesDen> ?
[18:46] <pete5x5> reisio: not sure what's not working, not really sure even how to start troubleshooting TBH.  Wifi shows up in top-right bar, seems to be working, but no networks are available even though it seems to be using the correct driver
[18:46] <damien__> well i heard you can kind of get rid of the burn in. Either with a burn in fix such as a white screen does this work
[18:46] <JakesDen> reisio, will that work?
[18:47] <reisio> JakesDen: you don't need to grub-install again, you just need a working grub.cfg now
[18:47] <JakesDen> hwo
[18:47] <JakesDen> i cant even boot any os
[18:47] <JakesDen> unless you have commands to do so
[18:48] <reisio> JakesDen: you better just follow this -- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair -- till you can get one of your grub.cfg's to match your actual bootloader
[18:48] <damien__> reisio\.
[18:49] <reisio> damien__: not that I'm aware of, no
[18:49] <JakesDen> i will boot that now
[18:49] <reisio> damien__: could ask #hardware
[18:49] <reisio> actual burn in is... burnt in
[18:49] <reisio> it is a physical state change
[18:49] <EmeraldExplorer> reisio: old: xenforo (www.domain.com): spyderweb/www/xenforo, gitlab (gitlab.domain.com):  spyderweb/gitlab/gitlab ==> new: spyderweb/www and spyderweb/gitlab
[18:49] <reisio> you can only undo it by melting it all down and remaking the matter in question without the impurities
[18:50] <reisio> EmeraldExplorer: sounds good
[18:50] <EmeraldExplorer> the question is, if the domain was www.domain.com/xname I'm wondering what I would do for the file structure
[18:50] <EmeraldExplorer> if I had it in spyderweb/www/xname it wouldn't work
[18:50] <EmeraldExplorer> because then xname would be part of the xenforo files
[18:51] <reisio> EmeraldExplorer: what's wrong with that?
[18:51] <damien__> xubuntu is a great os it is very lightweight and much faster
[18:51] <reisio> you can think of 'www.domain.com/foo' as a really stupid way to name this directory structure: 'com/domain/www/foo'
[18:51] <reisio> or without subdomains: 'com/domain/foo'
[18:51] <EmeraldExplorer> reisio: spyderweb/www contains ALL the xenforo files, so couldn't the xname conflict with the files in the xenforo_home directory?
[18:52] <reisio> EmeraldExplorer: if www is /, then www/xname would be /xname just fine
[18:54] <reisio> bipul: what model macbook is it?
[18:54] <bipul> It's ubuntu
[18:54] <reisio> bipul: what hardware model is the macbook
[18:55] <bipul> reisio, i don't know
[18:55] <reisio> bipul: did you say it was an air?
[18:55] <bipul> reisio, i don't know
[18:56] <wolfmitchell> YankDownUnder, ... ok, either the iso i dl'd doesn't have it or ubuntu live server isn't a thing
[18:57] <bipul> reisio, Now i got my answer hahaha
[18:57] <EmeraldExplorer> reisio: no I'm not talking about xname I'm talking about files in xname/..
[18:57] <EmeraldExplorer> for example what if they store files in the directory xname?
[18:59] <dwx> ping www.google.com
[18:59] <dwx> :D
[18:59] <dwx> test
[19:00] <dwx> kimse yok mu
[19:00] <bipul> reisio, Now it's working
[19:00] <nicarrow> noob testing this out is it working
[19:00] <dwx> nı tisting wirking
[19:00] <dwx> :D
[19:04] <reisio> bipul: gj
[19:04] <reisio> EmeraldExplorer: got me, what if they do?
[19:05] <apb1963> I'm having a packages "held back" problem.  Details here: http://pastebin.com/H6gBX1hz
[19:05] <EmeraldExplorer> reisio: I'm trying to get a better structure where this couldn't happen
[19:05] <EmeraldExplorer> since xenforo files are stored in www
[19:05] <EmeraldExplorer> and xname's files are stored in www/xname
[19:06] <EmeraldExplorer> xenforo could possibly store files in www/xname too
[19:06] <EmeraldExplorer> and then a conflict
[19:06] <reisio> EmeraldExplorer: k, then use /www and /xname
[19:06] <reisio> doesn't matter
[19:07] <raspy> hi all, when running a pvdisplay, the PV Size is 13.00 GiB / not usable 4.00 MiB, when I run an lvcreate 100%FREE, It only says Avail 12G
[19:07] <EmeraldExplorer> reisio: but that wouldn't make any sense because what if I had xname.domain.com and www.domain.com/xname
[19:07] <bipul> gj?
[19:07] <EmeraldExplorer> reisio: just trying to think of a reasonable structure
[19:07] <EmeraldExplorer> the only one I can think of is www/xenforo/[xenforoFilesHere]
[19:07] <raspy> is the unusuable space of 4.00 MiB preventing me from using the remaining 1GB of space on the volume I created?
[19:07] <EmeraldExplorer> but then you said it would be weird to do gitlab/gitlab/[gitlabFilesHere]
[19:10] <kraghot> hi guys
[19:11] <kraghot> I have a question, where could I look up the .config for the kernel compilation
[19:12] <pretodor> guys, imagine this: you're in the terminal and you'd like to open the working directory in nautilus. easy right? just `nautilus .` or `xdg-open .`
[19:12] <pretodor> what if you wanted to bind this command to a keyboard shortcut. how would you do this?
[19:13] <kraghot> because I have an x86 tablet and I can only use otg port for the keyboard. I tried both arch and ubuntu and it seems that the otg port doens't work so I want to check if it has the flag enabled for otg
[19:13] <kraghot> pretodor, you mean a shortcut in the terminal?
[19:13] <kraghot> you could do alias bla="nautilus ."
[19:13] <apb1963> raspy: I don't know for a fact because I don't use lvm, but I have a feeling that the  missing space is taken up by overhead; so you may want to investigate and confirm one way or the other.
[19:13] <kraghot> something like that
[19:14] <raspy> thx apb1963
[19:14] <kraghot> but then you have to put it in your .bashrc if you want it to be persistent
[19:14] <pretodor> kraghot: a keyboard shortcut to be precise. Not a bash alias
[19:14] <reisio> EmeraldExplorer: well, it'd make the most sense to know whether or not your own app was going to write to /xname :p
[19:14] <pretodor> I'd like to bind `xdg-open .` to ctrl+shift+e but I have absolutely no idea how
[19:14] <pretodor> kraghot: been scratching my head over this for a few days now
[19:16] <kraghot> pretodor, not sure what you mean. You want when you're in the terminal and press a shortcut for it to open that folder in nautilus?
[19:16] <pretodor> kraghot: exactly
[19:16] <kraghot> hmmm
[19:16] <kraghot> you'll then need to somehow type in nautilus . and press enter
[19:17] <pretodor> kraghot: that's the thing. I'm trying to avoid that. I would like to execute `nautilus .` by pressing ctrl+shift+e
[19:17] <kraghot> hmm
[19:18] <pretodor> kraghot: my thoughts exactly...
[19:18] <kraghot> it would be must easier to just alias it to a letter and press enter
[19:18] <kraghot> much*
[19:18] <pretodor> kraghot: that is my backup plan
[19:18] <kraghot> you would have to find a command which sends keystrokes
[19:18] <kraghot> and then use settings to make e shortcut and execute that command
[19:19] <kraghot> pretodor,  how bout http://askubuntu.com/questions/280604/assign-hotkeys-to-paste-predefined-text
[19:20] <pretodor> kraghot: this might work. thanks for the link, kraghot. But i'm afraid it won't be sandboxed inside the 'terminal' program
[19:21] <kraghot> pretodor, which ubuntu version are you running?
[19:21] <pretodor> kraghot: 16.04
[19:21] <kraghot> pretodor, maybe theres a better terminal emulator that supports keybindings like this?
[19:22] <pretodor> sorry, accidentally closed the tab
[19:22] <matt__> hi there
[19:22] <kraghot> pretodor, could you please run "zcat /proc/config.gz | grep USB_OTG" and tell me if the variable is set? I don't know how else to check except for booting it froma usb :(
[19:22] <pretodor> kraghot: have you heard of any good contenders
[19:23] <pretodor> kraghot: doesn't look like it
[19:23] <kraghot> pretodor,  maybe rxvt?
[19:23] <kraghot> ok thank you
[19:24] <kraghot> that;s why my tablets usb ports arent working
[19:31] <Kraghot> so does anyone know how to install ubuntu to a USB with UEFI
[19:34] <MonkeyDust> !persistent | Kraghot start here
[19:35] <Kraghot> thank you MonkeyDust
[19:35] <prasad> hi
[20:08] <apb1963> I'm having a packages "held back" problem.  Details here: http://pastebin.com/H6gBX1hz
[20:11] <apb1963> I'm having a packages "held back" problem.  Details here: http://pastebin.com/nTW3AAhY [sorry for repeat, previous paste expired]
[20:12] <k1l> apb1963: you can run "sudo apt full-upgrade". you need to run that to get all latest updates installed
[20:13] <apb1963> k1l: thx... did you look at the paste?
[20:13] <k1l> apb1963: that is what usual updates look like.
[20:14] <apb1963> k1l: I don't think you checked it out carefully
[20:14] <apb1963> I should also mention I'm running 14.04
[20:15] <k1l> apb1963: please explain what the issue is?
[20:15] <apb1963> k1l: I did.  In the paste.
[20:16] <k1l> no. explain in details what you issue is, if you dont trust me that this is a regular update.
[20:16] <k1l> that pastebin output looks 100% like a regular update. so what is your exact issue there?
[20:16] <spacecub> hi all
[20:17] <apb1963> k1l: It wants to install specific packages.  My question is, are those packages safe to install?
[20:17] <k1l> apb1963: if they come from the ubuntu repo, why should they not be safe to install?
[20:18] <spacecub> using lubuntu 64bit, want to use Asunder to rip cd to mp3, claims there is no "lame in my path" what does this mean?
[20:18] <apb1963> k1l: Because stuff happens and people aren't perfect.
[20:18] <k1l> apb1963: that is why the packages get automated testings and users do have backups of important data.
[20:19] <apb1963> k1l: Since I'm not familiar with the packages, and have no idea why after running it for years, it suddenly wants to install new packages in order to upgrade one that's been there all this time.
[20:20] <k1l> apb1963: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/u/update-notifier/update-notifier_0.154.1ubuntu2/changelog
[20:20] <k1l> that is why
[20:20] <spacecub> oooh, google..
[20:20] <apb1963> k1l: And there we have it.  "backups", something you assume I have, but don't due to a lack of space.  When my system is totally hosed and unusable what will you say?  "You should have had a backup".  Oh, thank you.
[20:21] <tito__> hi
[20:21] <k1l> apb1963: ok. good luck with your issue, i am not here as a volunteer for having to ask eery detail 10 times and just get your rantings.
[20:22] <reisio> hi tito
[20:22] <tito__> hi amigo
[20:22] <apb1963> k1l: hardly ranting.  But when people tell me "just do it because I said so"... I ask questions.
[20:23] <SchrodingersScat> apb1963: you really should have backups though, sweet stallman
[20:23] <tito__> how are you reisio
[20:23] <reisio> pretty okay, you?
[20:24] <apb1963> k1l: I appreciate you taking the time to help, I do.  I just know that people make assumptions that are not always true.  And so, I have to protect myself and my system from random "suggestions" from unknown sources.
[20:24] <tito__> hi roman_
[20:24] <tito__> hi Afrix
[20:24] <tito__> hi esholx
[20:24] <spacecub> is  the lame codec workable?
[20:24] <Afrix> hello
[20:24] <shaun> Hey guys, I have a complicated question, I've pasted here: http://pastebin.com/9GzwfSes Could someone take a look and give me some directions?
[20:24] <reisio> spacecub: ?
[20:24] <apb1963> SchrodingersScat: yes... I should... and... when the universe chooses to drop another hard drive in my lap... I'll make one.
[20:25] <SchrodingersScat> apb1963: at least one remote as well
[20:25] <apb1963> SchrodingersScat: yes... that would be ideal
[20:25] <spacecub> i googled my issue on the missing lame codec and it says to bypass if possible, looking for ruby ripper now, but cant find it
[20:26] <spacecub> just trying to rip a cd..
[20:26] <reisio> shaun: those are a lot of different issues
[20:26] <reisio> shaun: bind is entirely virtual
[20:26] <shaun> reisio: even after putting it in fstab?
[20:26] <spacecub> using lubuntu, its for my sons samsung phone, not sure if it likes ogg..
[20:26] <reisio> shaun: what is what after putting what into fstab?
[20:27] <reisio> spacecub: you can use rubyripper and lame, yes
[20:27] <spacecub> what are ppl using to rip cd`s?
[20:27] <reisio> spacecub: android should play ogg fine, too
[20:27] <reisio> spacecub: people aren't so much anymore
[20:27] <reisio> spacecub: there's not anything better than rubyripper for really good rips, but you might be entirely happy with, for example, cdparanoia (& frontends)
[20:27] <spacecub> oh, ill try and search rubyripper as one word.
[20:27] <Nytram> I've used vlc before now, it does a pretty fair job
[20:28] <reisio> spacecub: you can get it from a ppa last I checked (last year)
[20:28] <reisio> spacecub: if you aren't concerned with bit-for-bit perfect copies, just use cdparanoia or any frontend
[20:28] <spacecub> k, thanky, looking :)
[20:28] <apb1963> spacecub: I don't know if this will help but back when I neeed to rip a CD I used "k3b" if memory serves.  I don't recall any details.
[20:28] <Nytram> Yeah! K3b is good.
[20:28] <akik> kde has a built-in ripper
[20:28] <shaun> reisio: for making mount --bind reboot-proof (as shown here http://askubuntu.com/questions/205841/how-do-i-mount-a-folder-from-another-partition)
[20:28] <apb1963> akik: I use kde... where is this ripper?
[20:29] <akik> apb1963: i have to look it up
[20:29] <reisio> and if anybody suggests 'morituri' to you, ignore them because that program barely even runs
[20:29] <akik> apb1963: i think it's described here http://www.linuxtopia.org/online_books/linux_desktop_guides/kde_desktop_user_guide/audio-cd.html
[20:30] <akik> apb1963: i used that last year in kde 4
[20:30] <MonkeyDust> !info morituri
[20:31] <mmeth> Hi. I done goofed and now I have to reinstall windows. I want both ubuntu and windows on sda but atm grub is on sdb. I figure installing windows will break the boot to ubuntu, should I just reformat the whole drive before installing windows and then re-install ubuntu?
[20:31] <reto> hi
[20:31] <pyrax> hoi
[20:32] <mmeth> and on which drive should I put boot, for some reason the boot was on sdb
[20:32] <spacecub> hi all again, looks like cd paranoia may already be installed, I`m guessing i dont need .dbg and .dev packages to run
[20:32] <spacecub> start from shell?
[20:32] <apb1963> akik: ty.  I'll have to investigate when I have more time.   Seems to built into konquerer, but like I say... will need to investigate.  Thx!
[20:32] <apb1963> +be
[20:32] <reisio> mmeth: reformatting won't do anything but use up more time
[20:33] <akik> apb1963: yea it wasn't as built-in as i remembered
[20:33] <shaun> if I mount the folders instead of symlinking it and clonzeilla the ubuntu 16.04 partition, will the source of the mounted folders be backed up as well?
[20:33] <SchrodingersScat> !fixgrub | mmeth
[20:33] <reisio> mmeth: you can fix Windows stealing the boot loader after it happens easily
[20:34] <spacecub> ooh, it runs in the shell, no gui? :) (cdparanoia)
[20:37] <MonkeyDust> spacecub  ripping cds? try    jack -Q -R
[20:40] <reisio> spacecub: cdparanoia on its own, there are many GUI frontends
[20:42] <MonkeyDust> spacecub  try asunder or ripit
[20:44] <spacecub> asunder complains of missing lame codec, not sure what a frontend is :)
[20:44] <spacecub> installing k3b..
[20:45] <spacecub> frontend like a gui?
[20:45] <k1l> then install the lame codec. it is a similar one like mp3
[20:46] <k1l> sudo apt install lame
[20:46] <netsrot> Hi, I'm trying to follow the gallium-nine tutorial but aptitude refuses to install wine that way. I get the following message http://pastebin.com/n4DvjBpA is there any way to work around that to get wine g9 installed?
[20:46] <spacecub> haha was just about to ask
[20:47] <m_abdelfattah> Helllo... I just created a new Ubuntu 16.04 droplet on DO and it keeps disconnecting me and I'm getting the following error on my mac terminal: packet_write_wait: Connection to XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX: Broken pipe
[20:47] <spacecub> k, lame installed, thanky
[20:48] <msev->  can you guys help me with this -> http://pastebin.com/RVNnKkXA ,... here is the service -> http://pastebin.com/QBxyiiEy and this is mycroft.sh -> https://github.com/MycroftAI/mycroft-core/blob/master/mycroft.sh
[20:49] <spacecub> k, ripping, thanks guys...
[20:52] <EmeraldExplorer> Anyone know if there is a way to always go with the side of the origin when using a git repository and merging?
[20:52] <spacecub> im going to leave to free cpu, thanks again
[20:55] <reisio> EmeraldExplorer: #git
[20:55] <EmeraldExplorer> Thanks reisio
[21:10] <user512> Which runlevels do get called if I call  reboot or shutdown -P?  0,6, both?
[21:44] <weust> hello
[21:45] <reisio> weust: hi
[21:46] <weust> I am installing Ubuntu Server 16.04.1 on a Intel NUC 5i3RYB. It won´t boot past /dev/sda1: clean etcetc, or /dev/sda2. Iǘe installed in UEFI and BIOS mode. no difference. anything I´ve missed?
[21:46] <weust> also, installing on a M.2 SSD.
[21:46] <weust> Had Arch Linux on it before and that booted just fine. BIOS mode.
[21:57] <weust> *sigh* the first term screen shows that message, but switching to vt2 shows a login prompt. this crap took me 2 hours :-(
[21:57] <reisio> ?
[21:58] <weust> it somehow default to the tty on ctrl-alt-F7
[21:58] <weust> defaults*
[21:58] <weust> instead of showing tty1 with the yellow text login
[22:00] <weust> tty7 is appearently the GUI (looking up how to change it). I don´t have a GUI installed...
[22:01] <reisio> weust: probably need to disable the gdm service
[22:02] <weust> I do not have gdm installed. it is a clean Ubuntu Server installation. No X at all. only SSH server installed from the installer
[22:04] <weust> lookg at https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2143902 it might be something to do with the vt.handoff in the /etc/grub.d/10_linux file
[22:05] <weust> doesn´t really matter. I want to build a Kodi machine of it, so a X will be installed anyway
[22:06] <reisio> :D
[22:06] <weust> just annoying it took 2 hours to figure this out. I´ve build several VM´s with Ubuntu Server now, and they never go to tty7 on boot.
[22:07] <reisio> yup, sounds odd
[22:07] <weust> first installation I do on hardware :-)
[22:07] <weust> but now I can redo it for UEFI.....
[22:14] <limbothai> !topic
[22:15] <jewbird> !lookmommaimadeittoforbes
[22:23] <runciter_> wenas
[22:27] <Guest7997> hey
[22:27] <reisio> hi
[22:27] <Guest7997> new to IRSSI, was just testing stuff :)
[22:28] <Guest7997> irssi -n Phenom0772
[22:28] <Guest7997> :(
[22:59] <don_> anyone?
[22:59]  * reisio is a one
[23:00] <crossover> saludoss.
[23:01] <grizzlybear_> Hola! Este es un canal de soporte para Ubuntu sólamente?
[23:02] <reisio> grizzlybear_: si
[23:03] <grizzlybear_> reisio: Ok. Disculpen las molestias entonces.
[23:03] <reisio> grizzlybear_: porque?
[23:06] <grizzlybear_> Es que necesito ayuda con kali linux en realidad y no sé adonde consultar
[23:08] <reisio> grizzlybear_: you can talk to #kali-linux
[23:08] <bazhang> grizzlybear_, kali is not supported here, also this english chat
[23:09] <grizzlybear_> reisio: Oh! Gracias!!! Muchísimas Gracias! (bazhang: thanks to you too!!!)
[23:09] <reisio> grizzlybear_: ordinarily you could send the message /msg alis list *kali*
[23:10] <reisio> but the clowns in #kali-linux want their public irc support channel to be a secret for some reason
[23:11] <grizzlybear_> reisio: Ok! Thanks!
[23:20] <Guest64737> alguien habla español
[23:20] <hggdh> !es | Guest64737
[23:26] <sulfasal> doing sudo do-release-upgrade on 15.10 box, keep getting "No new release found"
[23:29] <c|oneman> anyone run Ubuntu Desktop inside OpenVZ?
[23:34] <sulfasal> doing sudo do-release-upgrade on 15.10 box, keep getting "No new release found"
[23:35] <c|oneman> I don't think theres an upgrade path
[23:35] <c|oneman> to go to 16.x
[23:35] <sulfasal> how does one upgrade?
[23:37] <c|oneman> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/04/how-to-upgrade-ubuntu-15-10-to-16-04-lts
[23:37] <Ben64> !eolupgrade | sulfasal
[23:37] <Fione> Hi
[23:39] <sulfasal> c|oneman: been there; done that
[23:40] <LARAVELGOD> c|oneman, you can start with minimal server and install desktop,
[23:41] <LARAVELGOD> access through VNC is easiest, depends on the VPS provider
[23:41] <LARAVELGOD> X over SSH is too slow
[23:41] <LARAVELGOD> if you are not on a LAN
[23:43] <LARAVELGOD> some providers have VNC access outside of the VPS setup, otherwise you will have to set that up yourself
[23:45] <dodge29> hi
[23:49] <lordcirth> dodge29, hi
[23:54] <ksft> I'm not sure if this is a good place to ask this, but I'm trying to use Deja Dup to back things up before I upgrade to 16.04, and I have a directory that contains several other directories that each contain another directory with the same name as each other. I want to back up all the lowest level directories I mentioned without any of the others in the parent directory.
[23:54] <ksft> Is there an easy way to do that?
[23:54] <ksft> I'm not sure if I explained that well.
[23:54] <a64> Hello
[23:55] <MannyLNJ> Any ideas why the openvpn log is blank? Ubuntu 14.04 and inbound connections are refused
[23:57] <c|oneman> LARAVELGOD: yeah I've got it all setup, with thinlinc as my RDP, but there are some limitations
[23:57] <c|oneman> for instance apps don't seem to be able to escalate properly, I have to login as root
[23:57] <lordcirth> ksft, probably use 'find' and duplicity manually, or find the deja-dup config file and insert text
[23:57] <LARAVELGOD> c|oneman sounds like a funky setup, it may relate to groups
[23:58] <LARAVELGOD> some apps you can put on autostart, before anyone logs in - that is how most root things are run
[23:58] <ksft> lordcirth: what's duplicity?
[23:58] <LARAVELGOD> if you are having permissions issues when the OS is starting before anyone logs in, then yes too strange
[23:58] <ksft> I keep seeing references to it when I google "deja dup"
[23:58] <cootie> oh?
[23:59] <c|oneman> I cant install software with ubuntu software center, for instance, unless I'm root
[23:59] <cootie> people still use this stuff
[23:59] <cootie> anyone want to be my friend?
[23:59] <ksft> cootie: what stuff?
[23:59] <cootie> irc
[23:59] <ksft> of course!