[09:46] <sakrecoer> OvenWerks, zequence, Rosco2 : thanks for your hardwork on ardour and with the iso. i've been quiet because i don't know how to help. but if there is anything i can do to make it easier for you, just let me know
[09:51] <sakrecoer> it looks like i will be the falvour cyberspider for the beta1 after all, with help from tsimonq2
[09:51] <sakrecoer> cyberspider == checklist tracking.. had to look up the word..
[13:35] <sakrecoer> still impossible to install the daily ISO for me... 
[15:09] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer: I don't think there has been a new build yet. what is the date on the ISO?
[15:18] <sakrecoer> OvenWerks: 19th august... but its been like this since 2016-08-05
[15:18] <sakrecoer> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1610377
[15:19] <sakrecoer> the DE looks better now in live-session, but there are still weirdness, such as the scrollbars have no ... dragbar drawn
[15:28] <sakrecoer> don't get me wrong, i'm not complaining. :) i'm just eager to test :)
[18:29] <zequence> sakrecoer: Currently there's a problem with the gnupg package. I'm guessing whoever is responsible will come back to work on monday, and correct that problem. But, if you like, you could try and find out more before that.
[18:31] <zequence> Actually, more than that
[18:31] <zequence> The following packages have unmet dependencies: gnupg1 : Breaks: gnupg (< 1.4.20-6+exp1) but 1.4.20-6ubuntu1 is to be installed kactivitymanagerd : Breaks: kactivities (< 5.20~) but 5.18.0-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[18:31] <zequence> kactivitymanagerd aught to be packaged by the Kubuntu team
[18:32] <zequence> And, about the uninstallable ISO. Any news on that? Perhaps the Xubuntu folks know more.
[18:33] <sakrecoer> zequence: ok, thanks... i'm affraid its not so much a question of will, rather a lack of skill.. but sure i an ask Xubuntu if they know more.
[19:00] <sakrecoer> seems the xubuntu daily installs, but they have an issue with the desktop.. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1615341
[20:31] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer: with two different graphics cards, I think xorg has to be hand set... I am not sure. I think it would be easy to set a second X server up on the second monitor though. :P
[20:32] <OvenWerks> this is beyond my quick and easy know-how. It would be good to look up how to use USB monitors in linux as the procedure would be about the same.
[20:37] <sakrecoer> OvenWerks: yes, something along those lines, its beyond my skillset too.. but i'm looking into it atm
[20:37] <sakrecoer> indeed, usb monitors, i had forgotten they exist, but perhaps its getting common?
[20:39] <sakrecoer> OvenWerks: a quick research indicates that most usb monitors require a special driver...
[20:40] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer: I didn't get that impression last time I looked... or at least the kernel module seemed to be part of generic at that point.
[20:41] <OvenWerks> I just remember the xorg config file had to be edited by hand to include the second monitor.
[20:41] <sakrecoer> OvenWerks: http://askubuntu.com/a/662797
[20:41] <sakrecoer> https://libdlo.freedesktop.org/wiki/DeviceQuirks/
[20:43] <OvenWerks> The main point is that normally dual monitors have to fit within the graphic adaptors memory size because x treats them as one big monitor (or used to)
[20:49] <sakrecoer> yeah, probably. the nvidia config interface allows you to create separate X-server for each monitor, but they have to be plugged to the card..
[20:49] <sakrecoer> OvenWerks: here they say "DisplayLink devices on Linux still only have experimental support" and it was last edited on july 2016 https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/DisplayLink
[20:50] <sakrecoer> OvenWerks: but there seem to be some work put on it : http://displaylink.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=29
[20:51] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer: I am sure they will be finished just as people stop making display link monitors... Apple has stopped already.
[20:51] <sakrecoer> :D lol
[20:53] <sakrecoer> OvenWerks: are there non-displaylink screens that go via USB?
[20:53] <sakrecoer> or is that the name for USB-display in general?
[20:55] <sakrecoer> my searches tell me "guess no"..
[21:17] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer: there user to be USB display ports
[21:17] <OvenWerks> https://www.startech.com/ca/AV/USB-Video-Adapters/USB-3-to-Displayport-Video-Card-Multi-Monitor-Adapter-2560x1600~USB32DPPRO
[21:20] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer: http://www.j5create.com/our-products/external-video-adapters/jua210.html
[21:27] <OvenWerks> http://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=6038
[21:28] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer: the last one even says Linux compatable.