[00:42] <Unit193> wxl: Last warning for swift110 about linking his blog given, btw.
[06:22] <jair> Hello there
[06:23] <jair> I was banned by this individual over a week ago. BY I believe Ikonia.  May I know why is this individual still banning me?
[06:24] <jair> I am not happy with what he does, the way he act in the channels and the way how he speaks to new users looking and having an interesting discussion with other members, all good and educative not just for Ubuntu but also for any debian based distro
[06:25] <jair> however I will speak about Ubuntu specifically related issues because I also support clients using Ubuntu
[06:25] <jair> can someone remove that please so I can join #ubuntu?
[06:25] <valorie> jair, #ubuntu is a large channel, and therefore must stay on topic
[06:26] <jair> valorie: understood
[06:26] <valorie> #ubuntu-offtopic is for "interesting discussions" about anything not Ubuntu support
[06:26] <valorie> ikonia does not act alone
[06:26] <jair> valorie: but it is OK to be banned for certain amount of time specially if I am talking about debian or mint in ubuntu channel but it's been over a week
[06:27] <valorie> !guidelines | jair
[06:27] <jair> valorie: I believe you should investigate more about the discussion with ikonia
[06:27] <jair> Understood and will stay in topic
[06:27] <valorie> I don't have ops in #ubuntu so I can't help you, but I've known ikonia for a long time
[06:27] <jair> I believe the internet is free, and IRC is free for people to join
[06:28] <valorie> certainly, and *buntu channels are created and maintained for *buntu users
[06:28] <valorie> not for everyone
[06:28] <jair> so having a group of individuals abusing of their right is really negative for the channel and for Linux
[06:28] <valorie> ikonia was not abusing his rights; he was acting on behalf of those who need support
[06:29] <valorie> as we need him to do
[06:29] <jair> can anyone here remove the stupid ban I said I will only discuss topics related to #ubuntu
[06:29] <valorie> perhaps they will come along presently
[06:30] <dax> @btlogin
[06:31] <dax> alrighty, some things:
[06:31] <jair> 15:30 -!- Cannot join to channel #ubuntu (You are banned) this is being showing for over a week now, and you are saying this is not abussing?
[06:31] <dax> 1) as i think we already covered adequately, #ubuntu is for Ubuntu, and #debian is for Debian
[06:31] <dax> 2) it's been three days, this is not an unusual ban length for users who have demonstrated attitude issues in #ubuntu
[06:31] <jair> I said for 3rd time, I will discuss Ubuntu ony things I understood
[06:32] <dax> 3) you do not have a right to be in #ubuntu, it is a technical support channel that you are free to use as long as you do not go against its rules and cause us to think you'll cause issues in it
[06:32] <dax> 4) ikonia was not "abusing his rights", he acted appropriately in response to your behavior, which was inappropriate for the channel
[06:33] <dax> so, all that said: have you read the guidelines linked above and agree to not throw a fit in #ubuntu again?
[06:33] <jair> may I get access to #ubuntu to discuss and help other newbies you normally don't help instead send them to read manuals and search in google? I do have the time and the will to teach them and show them, you are affecting more them than me
[06:33] <jair> agreed
[06:34] <jair> I said I will talk about #ubuntu stuff only
[06:34] <dax> as I said, the issue is not only with being ontopic, it's with the attitude
[06:34] <dax> "#ubuntu stuff only" includes not making snarky comments at other users or chanops
[06:34] <dax> anyways
[06:35] <jair> Of course
[06:35] <dax> i'll remove your ban now, one sec
[06:35] <jair> I am just telling you what I think, I am not in #ubuntu
[06:35] <dax> done, please try rejoining now, and note that we do keep history so future goings on may not be as simple to resolve
[06:35] <jair> If I create issues or do not respect the guidelines you can ban me again easy?
[06:35] <dax> indeed
[06:35] <jair> Thanks
[06:36] <jair> checking my access
[06:36] <jair> I can avccess thank you dax have a good day
[06:36] <dax> @mark jair ban removed per agreement to behave
[06:47]  * valorie has little confidence there was any change in attitude
[06:48] <dax> considering they just asked about the same sort of thing they were asking about before they got banned, and they were using Debian then...
[06:48] <dax> but yeah, rope etc.
[06:49] <dax> if they behave they behave. if they don't, poof
[07:20] <dax> huh, they actually took the /kick hint. unexpected
[08:46] <ikonia> just for the record I message jair 3 times in the last few days about his ban - he ignored all pm's
[08:47] <ikonia> on the 18th, 19th, and 20th
[08:47] <valorie> ikonia: oh but didn't you hear, it's all about your power trip
[08:47] <ikonia> I'd not done anything over the weekend
[09:17] <popey> best make up for it today then! triple power-trips for you!
[14:57] <hggdh> @mark windowsxp noise on #ubuntu, trying to engage in PM
[15:00] <hggdh> @mark windowsxp results from the PM: many lines written NOOB NOOB... mute should stay
[15:04] <k1l_> not the first time he is an issue
[15:05] <k1l_> "<windowsxp> chu your a noob"  so this is an issue from -ot?
[15:20] <phunyguy> chu is +o in #ubuntu....
[15:20] <phunyguy> probably triggered from that.
[15:46] <hggdh> why chu, IDK. Myrtt i kicked it a few minutes before my mute
[15:47] <k1l_> hggdh: that was the first sentence when he joined initially today
[15:48] <hggdh> yes. Only chu knows
[15:48] <hggdh> why
[15:50] <k1l_> i just thought that was again a -ot issue that spilled over to #ubuntu (because i am not in -ot and dont have a backlog). but seems its not. so we will never know
[21:20] <wxl> Unit193: what huh?
[23:25] <k1l> [shr30] (~rw@95.211.225.139): realname. that is a leaseweb server running a prox
[23:25] <k1l> *y