flocculantbluesabre: iso is fine now 07:24
ochosiwoot, whisker-menu 2.0 - ported to gtk308:40
Unit193!info xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin yakkety08:42
ubottuxfce4-whiskermenu-plugin (source: xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin): Alternate menu plugin for the Xfce desktop environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6.0-0ubuntu1 (yakkety), package size 146 kB, installed size 669 kB08:42
ochosiyeah, just wanted to mention the news, in case others didn't see it08:43
Unit193We talked about it already, yep. :>08:43
Unit193Good though, yep.08:43
akxwi-dave \o/08:50
ochosiUnit193: packaged anywhere yet?08:54
ochosior any plans regarding that08:54
Unit193Nope, and sure, perhaps tomorrow.08:55
Unit193...Oooor right now.  Weird, seems to require garcon 1.09:13
ochosioh, that's interesting09:19
Unit193ochosi: It requires 3.20. :/09:20
Unit193https://launchpad.net/~unit193/+archive/ubuntu/xfce4-gtk3/+packages smoketesting there, will copy over after that.09:22
ochosiah right, well it's understandable. supporting 3.20 *and* below just sucks09:24
Unit193But it's supposed to. :309:25
Unit193Looks like cmake doesn't do min deps like autotools either, nice.09:26
ochosiflocculant: yes, the input boxes have a lot of outline :) it's only greybird 3.20.0 so there's a lot of breathing room until 3.20.1 ;)09:32
ochosii have a few more things to tweak on my list and that is one of them09:32
akxwi-davereturn of bug 1362076 09:57
ubottubug 1362076 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "During the system installing, the "skip" button displays abnormal after expanded the detail installing information." [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/136207609:57
akxwi-davealso  new bug 161556909:57
ubottubug 1615569 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Skip button on installer jumps back and forth with text" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/161556909:57
sorinello_Hello. is this https://bugs.launchpad.net/xfpanel-switch/+bug/1555265 in the pipe for the next Xubuntu version ?10:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1555265 in Xfce Panel Switch "[UX] User is not able to go back to current/initial configuration" [Undecided,New]10:05
bluesabresorinello_, suppose that should be improved... though technically, applying a new one makes that your "current configuration" and the one you had the "previous configuration"10:15
bluesabrebut I get where you're coming from ;)10:16
sorinello_thing is that the user can lose its settings without knowing that its current config is not saved10:16
flocculantochosi: LOL10:54
flocculantakxwi-dave: I did briefly mention the wandering skip button to cypermox - but then promptly went a made a cuppa and forgot 10:56
akxwi-davelol..   done that myself a few times10:56
flocculantochosi: not sure what the crack is with firefox - that still appears a 'bit' odd 10:57
flocculantakxwi-dave: at a guess I'd suspect some gtk3.20 thing causing the wandering skip button - seems to be the way to go this cycle for evereyone - BLAME gtk3.20 :)10:59
flocculantbluesabre ochosi - fix released for 1568604 \o/11:15
bluesabrelp 156860411:45
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1568604 in xf86-video-intel "Mouse cursor lost when unlocking with Intel graphics" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/156860411:45
bluesabreflocculant, woohoo!11:45
akxwi-daveflocculant: thought it may be..   12:08
flocculantakxwi-dave: why bug 1306866?14:07
ubottubug 1306866 in Ubuntu Kylin ""Desktop" is not localized in live mode" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130686614:07
akxwi-daveThats the same number for multiple  ones for the same error...14:25
akxwi-davewhen I searched for it this is the one it showed..  Bug #1306866: "Desktop" is not localized in live mode14:27
ubottubug 1306866 in Ubuntu Kylin ""Desktop" is not localized in live mode" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130686614:27
akxwi-davedidn't notice that it showed Kylin as the default.. i14:29
flocculantakxwi-dave: sorry, I meant what did you see that's a bug?15:20
akxwi-daveahhh.. when you click on the copying option to see where the progress is.. the skip button disappears..15:20
akxwi-daveoops ignore that.. wrong one15:21
akxwi-dave bad day ... :-)15:22
akxwi-daveactually i choose the wrong bug.. need to create a new one... When installing from the live session and selecting UK, the resulting installed version was US15:23
flocculantoh really? 15:23
flocculantI can boot an installed one and report if you want15:23
akxwi-dave only noticed when I went to ubuntu-bug to create teh skip one and noticed there   i.e @ was " etc15:24
akxwi-dave cheers if you could.. 15:25
flocculantyup no problem15:25
akxwi-davecurrently trying to sort out a self cert ssl on an exchange server..15:25
flocculantakxwi-dave: umm - here I've got en on both installs, and 1 I just reinstalled to dbl chk15:33
akxwi-davekk will do a fresh install to triple check... it may be one of those stupid VBox things.... will go vmware on this one15:35
flocculantperhaps you can look later to recheck what you did15:35
flocculantaah right ok :)15:35
akxwi-daveright.. mark that one down to vbox..    vmware is fine...  vbox not  15:55
flocculantreally - now that is bizarre :p15:55
akxwi-dave tell me.. been getting really wierd ones from vbox recently..  actually come to think of it.. most have been since their latest update 5,15:57
akxwi-dave5.14  *15:58
akxwi-davei'll check that when I get home.. got  5.1.2 installed their... just incase...15:58
flocculantI've not used it for a long time now15:59
akxwi-dave  i keep meaning to look up KVM  just not had time..15:59
flocculanthappy to tell you what I do locally anytime 16:00
akxwi-davecheer mate.. will have to grab you one night16:01
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flocculantbluesabre: sadly I led you up the garden path with 1568604, some random person changed it to fix released, bryan quigley set it back to wait for SRU system to set it ...20:26
ochosiUnit193: any headway with whisker 2.0?21:56
ochosisince you were playing with it earlier21:56
bluesabreflocculant, boo21:56
bluesabreochosi, I think he mentioned that he might tackle it tomorrow (or was that today)21:56
ochosiour honorable council nominee was complaining about cmake and gtk3.20 earlier, so i presume he actually did something today :)21:57
Unit193ochosi: I thought I told you where it was last night?  I wasn't looking to fix it for Xenial.21:57
ochosiah ok, no copy-over for me?21:58
ochosialso, from your messages i wasn't sure whether things had worked out21:58
Unit193bluesabre: I was stupid enough to think that 5 am with not a lot of sleep was a great time to do it. :P21:58
ochosithere was no "yay" message or something :)21:58
Unit193ochosi: Ah, OK.  No, it hadn't been smoketested yet.  And that was mainly due to broken Xenial, which isn't something I had planned to fix.  Otherwise, it was a simple update.21:59
ochosii'll try and just install the yakkety package in my zombie xenial21:59
bluesabresuppose I'm nominate myself, not seen a lot of response on it22:00
ochosiwait, can you repeat that sentence?22:01
bluesabreUnit193, why not wait until 8 am without sleep? :D22:01
ochosiUnit193: smoketest: looks fine on xenial 3.20!22:01
ochosii still have a broken env, but that's due to exo22:02
Unit193bluesabre: Oh I had some sleep, but was recovering from a day prior.  Randomly woke up with some pain. :P22:02
Unit193ochosi: Alrighty, copying over now then.22:02
bluesabreochosi, grab the newer exo from the ppa :)22:02
ochosibluesabre: yeah, i'm lagging behind...22:02
* ochosi updates the pkgs22:03
ochosiyay, got a working env back22:05
bluesabreif ochosi grabs the xfconf package from that ppa, he'll have even more breakage22:05
ochosiUnit193: so yeah, whisker seems to work alright (haven't used more than the basic "search for app", "launch app" though)22:06
ochosiyeah, xfconf is fun, i should really read that email from ali on the ML again reading what exactly he broke there22:06
ochosii'm not a huge fan of breaking stuff when it's supposed to be a 1:1 poprt22:06
Unit193bluesabre: I'm pretty sure I removed that..22:06
Unit193ochosi: Yeah that's good enough for me.22:07
bluesabreUnit193, oh goodie22:07
* bluesabre doesn't want to be wrong, contemplates adding it back22:07
Unit193bluesabre: apt-mark hold  is your friend. :P22:08
bluesabreUnit193, indeed!22:09
nairwolfhello everyone, I made a test recently on a daily image, and I've encounter this bug : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/161430222:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1614302 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Ubiquity crash during installation (yakkety)" [Undecided,New]22:12
nairwolfHave you noticed bugs related to Ubiquity recently ?22:12
nairwolfWhen I'm seeing ubiquity's bug, it seems to have a lot of new bugs related to installation of the devel version22:13
nairwolfAnd I see also two tests today of xubuntu daily : http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/360/builds/129347/testcases/1300/results22:13
Unit193I did a while ago, found a workaround by running it as root (sudo ubiquity) :P22:13
Unit193(I couldn't report it properly, apport kept erroring out.  Reported that one though.)22:14
nairwolfI'm wondering if flocculant and akxwi-dave have made these tests in a VM or with a physical machine22:14
nairwolfUnit193: oh, so, you're under the live session, you open a terminal and you run 'sudo ubiquity', that's enough ? 22:14
Unit193I likely hit a different error though.22:15
flocculantnairwolf: mostly vm - but on the 19th I killed this install and installed a new yak on hardware - worked perfectly ok for me22:16
flocculantbluesabre: nominate yourself :p22:16
nairwolfflocculant: okay, my bug was reported the 17th. Maybe I will try again this week22:17
nairwolfI was really annoyed by this bug ^^22:17
nairwolfUnit193: ok22:18
nairwolfflocculant: in a french forum, someone has apparently encountered the same bug as me. I'm trying to understand what happened exactly22:19
flocculantnairwolf: right22:20
flocculantnairwolf: thing is - have you tried with a new iso?22:24
flocculant17th might have been when it was all about to go wrong22:25
flocculantalso - journal errors is full of apt_pkg.Error: E:Write error - write (32: Broken pipe)22:26
flocculantlooking at that journal error file, towards the end it's having issues with language packs22:27
nairwolfflocculant: yes, as I said, I need to test again with a new iso. But not tonight. 22:28
flocculantso I would try with a new iso, if it fails, try with the same iso but let it be US or UK rather than I assume French :)22:28
nairwolfoh, no, the language pack was 'English'22:29
nairwolfand you right, there is a lot of 'write error'. It's not impossible that it's my machine that caused this error22:29
nairwolfI wanted to verify if someone has tried to install yakkety-devel on hardware after the 17th22:30
flocculantwell I can verify that for sure :)22:30
nairwolfAs I'm seeing a lof of recent ubiquity bugs : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bugs?orderby=-id&start=022:31
nairwolfI was wondering if someone had encountered the same bug as me. 22:31
nairwolftomorrow, I will try with the new iso22:31
flocculantthe first on that list has the same issue "apt_pkg.Error: E:Errore di scrittura - write (32: Pipe interrotta)"22:32
flocculantseems like a few with the same issue indeed22:33
flocculantall with langpack issues22:34
nairwolfthis one also : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/161564222:34
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1615642 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ubiquity crashed during installation" [Undecided,New]22:34
nairwolfflocculant: maybe I installed with french language, I don't remember exactly. That would be strange as I wanted to let my system in english. 22:34
flocculantwell it is for sure ok installing with gb 22:35
* flocculant has a go in french ... this will be fun ;)22:36
nairwolfyou have a go in french ? What does it mean ? 22:37
flocculantthat it is a good job I can install in automatic mode without reading what anything says :D22:38
flocculantnairwolf: crashed :)22:39
nairwolfoh, really ? 22:40
nairwolfyou tried that now ? 22:40
flocculantwhat does this say? http://i.imgur.com/1D4Xpbo.png22:40
nairwolfthe installer has crashed22:41
nairwolfwe're sorry, the installer has crashed. When you'll close this window, we'll send a bug report, etc etc22:41
flocculantoh crud22:41
flocculantstupid french keyboard layout with a uk keyboard \o/22:41
nairwolfyou think having an uk keyboard is related ? 22:42
flocculantno - I think that trying to use a french layout on a uk keyboard doesn't make entering e-mail and password very simple ... 22:42
nairwolfah ah ;)22:43
nairwolfgood luck ;)22:43
nairwolfwith french layout, you have 22:43
nairwolf@ behind '0'22:43
meetingologynairwolf: Error: "behind" is not a valid command.22:43
nairwolfbe quiet meetingology....22:44
flocculantwow that was fun ... 22:47
nairwolfflocculant: which vm software do you use ? virtualbox ? 22:47
nairwolfoh, I'm stupid, I could have seen that ^^22:48
nairwolfNever tried22:48
flocculantright - now to fix the english with french keyboard text I wrote at bug 161584722:49
ubottubug 1615847 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Ubiauity crashes zith non english setup" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/161584722:49
nairwolfthat's funny : 'crqshe zhile instqlling ) previously used i,qge to instqll ok ) set up previously zith enflish'22:51
nairwolffrench keyboard uses 'azerty' as you're using qwerty22:51
nairwolfyou just have to change a->q and z->w22:52
nairwolfand there is something weird with 'm', you have ',' if I remember exactly22:52
flocculantnairwolf: couldn't be bothered to fiddle - waited till I could open it up again :)22:52
nairwolfso you think there is a bug if we're using something else than english setup ?22:56
flocculantyep for sure - thanks nairwolf :)22:56
flocculantI've passed it along already :)22:56
nairwolfI'm trying again with a vm actually22:58
nairwolfjust to be sure22:58
flocculantset it up with french/french keyboard - I'm positive it will crash :)22:58
nairwolflet me try firstly in english23:06
nairwolfThat's really surprening because I wanted to install the devel version in english setup (with french keyboard)23:06
flocculantnairwolf: ok, so someone from Canonical has visited the bug I reported - I would guess it will get some traction - bit of an issue this :)23:15
flocculantnight all23:15
bluesabrenight flocculant 23:15
nairwolfokay, my vm is too slow to finish the installation ^^23:17
nairwolfthat's great if you've identified the cause of this bug23:17
nairwolfgood night ! 23:17
nairwolfoh, that's bad he quit right now ! 23:18
nairwolfubiquity has crashed also even with english language (but with french keyboard)23:18

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