[07:24] <flocculant> bluesabre: iso is fine now 
[08:40] <ochosi> woot, whisker-menu 2.0 - ported to gtk3
[08:42] <Unit193> !info xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin yakkety
[08:42] <ubottu> xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin (source: xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin): Alternate menu plugin for the Xfce desktop environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6.0-0ubuntu1 (yakkety), package size 146 kB, installed size 669 kB
[08:43] <ochosi> yeah, just wanted to mention the news, in case others didn't see it
[08:43] <Unit193> We talked about it already, yep. :>
[08:43] <Unit193> Good though, yep.
[08:50] <akxwi-dave>  \o/
[08:54] <ochosi> Unit193: packaged anywhere yet?
[08:54] <ochosi> or any plans regarding that
[08:55] <Unit193> Nope, and sure, perhaps tomorrow.
[09:08] <ochosi> awesome
[09:13] <Unit193> ...Oooor right now.  Weird, seems to require garcon 1.
[09:19] <ochosi> oh, that's interesting
[09:20] <Unit193> ochosi: It requires 3.20. :/
[09:22] <Unit193> https://launchpad.net/~unit193/+archive/ubuntu/xfce4-gtk3/+packages smoketesting there, will copy over after that.
[09:24] <ochosi> ah right, well it's understandable. supporting 3.20 *and* below just sucks
[09:25] <Unit193> But it's supposed to. :3
[09:26] <Unit193> Looks like cmake doesn't do min deps like autotools either, nice.
[09:32] <ochosi> flocculant: yes, the input boxes have a lot of outline :) it's only greybird 3.20.0 so there's a lot of breathing room until 3.20.1 ;)
[09:32] <ochosi> i have a few more things to tweak on my list and that is one of them
[09:57] <akxwi-dave> return of bug 1362076 
[09:57] <ubottu> bug 1362076 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "During the system installing, the "skip" button displays abnormal after expanded the detail installing information." [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1362076
[09:57] <akxwi-dave> also  new bug 1615569
[09:57] <ubottu> bug 1615569 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Skip button on installer jumps back and forth with text" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1615569
[10:05] <sorinello_> Hello. is this https://bugs.launchpad.net/xfpanel-switch/+bug/1555265 in the pipe for the next Xubuntu version ?
[10:05] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1555265 in Xfce Panel Switch "[UX] User is not able to go back to current/initial configuration" [Undecided,New]
[10:15] <bluesabre> sorinello_, suppose that should be improved... though technically, applying a new one makes that your "current configuration" and the one you had the "previous configuration"
[10:16] <bluesabre> but I get where you're coming from ;)
[10:16] <sorinello_> thing is that the user can lose its settings without knowing that its current config is not saved
[10:54] <flocculant> ochosi: LOL
[10:56] <flocculant> akxwi-dave: I did briefly mention the wandering skip button to cypermox - but then promptly went a made a cuppa and forgot 
[10:56] <akxwi-dave> lol..   done that myself a few times
[10:57] <flocculant> ochosi: not sure what the crack is with firefox - that still appears a 'bit' odd 
[10:59] <flocculant> akxwi-dave: at a guess I'd suspect some gtk3.20 thing causing the wandering skip button - seems to be the way to go this cycle for evereyone - BLAME gtk3.20 :)
[11:15] <flocculant> bluesabre ochosi - fix released for 1568604 \o/
[11:15] <flocculant> \o/
[11:45] <bluesabre> lp 1568604
[11:45] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1568604 in xf86-video-intel "Mouse cursor lost when unlocking with Intel graphics" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1568604
[11:45] <bluesabre> flocculant, woohoo!
[12:08] <akxwi-dave> flocculant: thought it may be..   
[14:07] <flocculant> akxwi-dave: why bug 1306866?
[14:07] <ubottu> bug 1306866 in Ubuntu Kylin ""Desktop" is not localized in live mode" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1306866
[14:25] <akxwi-dave> Thats the same number for multiple  ones for the same error...
[14:27] <akxwi-dave> when I searched for it this is the one it showed..  Bug #1306866: "Desktop" is not localized in live mode
[14:27] <ubottu> bug 1306866 in Ubuntu Kylin ""Desktop" is not localized in live mode" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1306866
[14:29] <akxwi-dave> didn't notice that it showed Kylin as the default.. i
[15:20] <flocculant> akxwi-dave: sorry, I meant what did you see that's a bug?
[15:20] <akxwi-dave> ahhh.. when you click on the copying option to see where the progress is.. the skip button disappears..
[15:21] <akxwi-dave> oops ignore that.. wrong one
[15:22] <akxwi-dave>  bad day ... :-)
[15:22] <flocculant> :)
[15:23] <akxwi-dave> actually i choose the wrong bug.. need to create a new one... When installing from the live session and selecting UK, the resulting installed version was US
[15:23] <flocculant> oh really? 
[15:23] <akxwi-dave> yep
[15:23] <flocculant> I can boot an installed one and report if you want
[15:24] <akxwi-dave>  only noticed when I went to ubuntu-bug to create teh skip one and noticed there   i.e @ was " etc
[15:24] <flocculant> k
[15:25] <akxwi-dave>  cheers if you could.. 
[15:25] <flocculant> yup no problem
[15:25] <akxwi-dave> currently trying to sort out a self cert ssl on an exchange server..
[15:26] <flocculant> :)
[15:33] <flocculant> akxwi-dave: umm - here I've got en on both installs, and 1 I just reinstalled to dbl chk
[15:35] <akxwi-dave> kk will do a fresh install to triple check... it may be one of those stupid VBox things.... will go vmware on this one
[15:35] <flocculant> perhaps you can look later to recheck what you did
[15:35] <flocculant> aah right ok :)
[15:55] <akxwi-dave> right.. mark that one down to vbox..    vmware is fine...  vbox not  
[15:55] <flocculant> really - now that is bizarre :p
[15:57] <akxwi-dave>  tell me.. been getting really wierd ones from vbox recently..  actually come to think of it.. most have been since their latest update 5,
[15:58] <akxwi-dave> 5.14  *
[15:58] <akxwi-dave> i'll check that when I get home.. got  5.1.2 installed their... just incase...
[15:59] <flocculant> I've not used it for a long time now
[15:59] <akxwi-dave>   i keep meaning to look up KVM  just not had time..
[16:00] <flocculant> happy to tell you what I do locally anytime 
[16:01] <akxwi-dave> cheer mate.. will have to grab you one night
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[20:26] <flocculant> bluesabre: sadly I led you up the garden path with 1568604, some random person changed it to fix released, bryan quigley set it back to wait for SRU system to set it ...
[21:56] <ochosi> Unit193: any headway with whisker 2.0?
[21:56] <ochosi> since you were playing with it earlier
[21:56] <bluesabre> flocculant, boo
[21:56] <bluesabre> ochosi, I think he mentioned that he might tackle it tomorrow (or was that today)
[21:57] <ochosi> our honorable council nominee was complaining about cmake and gtk3.20 earlier, so i presume he actually did something today :)
[21:57] <Unit193> ochosi: I thought I told you where it was last night?  I wasn't looking to fix it for Xenial.
[21:58] <ochosi> ah ok, no copy-over for me?
[21:58] <ochosi> also, from your messages i wasn't sure whether things had worked out
[21:58] <Unit193> bluesabre: I was stupid enough to think that 5 am with not a lot of sleep was a great time to do it. :P
[21:58] <ochosi> there was no "yay" message or something :)
[21:59] <Unit193> ochosi: Ah, OK.  No, it hadn't been smoketested yet.  And that was mainly due to broken Xenial, which isn't something I had planned to fix.  Otherwise, it was a simple update.
[21:59] <ochosi> i'll try and just install the yakkety package in my zombie xenial
[22:00] <bluesabre> suppose I'm nominate myself, not seen a lot of response on it
[22:01] <ochosi> wait, can you repeat that sentence?
[22:01] <bluesabre> Unit193, why not wait until 8 am without sleep? :D
[22:01] <knome> :D
[22:01] <ochosi> Unit193: smoketest: looks fine on xenial 3.20!
[22:02] <ochosi> i still have a broken env, but that's due to exo
[22:02] <Unit193> bluesabre: Oh I had some sleep, but was recovering from a day prior.  Randomly woke up with some pain. :P
[22:02] <Unit193> ochosi: Alrighty, copying over now then.
[22:02] <bluesabre> ochosi, grab the newer exo from the ppa :)
[22:02] <ochosi> bluesabre: yeah, i'm lagging behind...
[22:03]  * ochosi updates the pkgs
[22:05] <ochosi> yay, got a working env back
[22:05] <bluesabre> if ochosi grabs the xfconf package from that ppa, he'll have even more breakage
[22:06] <ochosi> Unit193: so yeah, whisker seems to work alright (haven't used more than the basic "search for app", "launch app" though)
[22:06] <ochosi> yeah, xfconf is fun, i should really read that email from ali on the ML again reading what exactly he broke there
[22:06] <ochosi> i'm not a huge fan of breaking stuff when it's supposed to be a 1:1 poprt
[22:06] <ochosi> port
[22:06] <Unit193> bluesabre: I'm pretty sure I removed that..
[22:07] <Unit193> ochosi: Yeah that's good enough for me.
[22:07] <bluesabre> Unit193, oh goodie
[22:07]  * bluesabre doesn't want to be wrong, contemplates adding it back
[22:08] <Unit193> bluesabre: apt-mark hold  is your friend. :P
[22:09] <bluesabre> Unit193, indeed!
[22:12] <nairwolf> hello everyone, I made a test recently on a daily image, and I've encounter this bug : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1614302
[22:12] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1614302 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Ubiquity crash during installation (yakkety)" [Undecided,New]
[22:12] <nairwolf> Have you noticed bugs related to Ubiquity recently ?
[22:13] <nairwolf> When I'm seeing ubiquity's bug, it seems to have a lot of new bugs related to installation of the devel version
[22:13] <nairwolf> And I see also two tests today of xubuntu daily : http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/360/builds/129347/testcases/1300/results
[22:13] <Unit193> I did a while ago, found a workaround by running it as root (sudo ubiquity) :P
[22:14] <Unit193> (I couldn't report it properly, apport kept erroring out.  Reported that one though.)
[22:14] <nairwolf> I'm wondering if flocculant and akxwi-dave have made these tests in a VM or with a physical machine
[22:14] <nairwolf> Unit193: oh, so, you're under the live session, you open a terminal and you run 'sudo ubiquity', that's enough ? 
[22:15] <Unit193> I likely hit a different error though.
[22:16] <flocculant> nairwolf: mostly vm - but on the 19th I killed this install and installed a new yak on hardware - worked perfectly ok for me
[22:16] <flocculant> bluesabre: nominate yourself :p
[22:17] <nairwolf> flocculant: okay, my bug was reported the 17th. Maybe I will try again this week
[22:17] <nairwolf> I was really annoyed by this bug ^^
[22:18] <nairwolf> Unit193: ok
[22:19] <nairwolf> flocculant: in a french forum, someone has apparently encountered the same bug as me. I'm trying to understand what happened exactly
[22:20] <flocculant> nairwolf: right
[22:24] <flocculant> nairwolf: thing is - have you tried with a new iso?
[22:25] <flocculant> 17th might have been when it was all about to go wrong
[22:26] <flocculant> also - journal errors is full of apt_pkg.Error: E:Write error - write (32: Broken pipe)
[22:27] <flocculant> looking at that journal error file, towards the end it's having issues with language packs
[22:28] <nairwolf> flocculant: yes, as I said, I need to test again with a new iso. But not tonight. 
[22:28] <flocculant> so I would try with a new iso, if it fails, try with the same iso but let it be US or UK rather than I assume French :)
[22:29] <nairwolf> oh, no, the language pack was 'English'
[22:29] <flocculant> mmk
[22:29] <nairwolf> and you right, there is a lot of 'write error'. It's not impossible that it's my machine that caused this error
[22:30] <flocculant> :)
[22:30] <nairwolf> I wanted to verify if someone has tried to install yakkety-devel on hardware after the 17th
[22:30] <flocculant> well I can verify that for sure :)
[22:31] <nairwolf> As I'm seeing a lof of recent ubiquity bugs : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bugs?orderby=-id&start=0
[22:31] <nairwolf> I was wondering if someone had encountered the same bug as me. 
[22:31] <nairwolf> tomorrow, I will try with the new iso
[22:32] <flocculant> the first on that list has the same issue "apt_pkg.Error: E:Errore di scrittura - write (32: Pipe interrotta)"
[22:32] <nairwolf> indeed
[22:33] <flocculant> seems like a few with the same issue indeed
[22:34] <flocculant> all with langpack issues
[22:34] <nairwolf> this one also : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1615642
[22:34] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1615642 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ubiquity crashed during installation" [Undecided,New]
[22:34] <flocculant> yep
[22:34] <nairwolf> flocculant: maybe I installed with french language, I don't remember exactly. That would be strange as I wanted to let my system in english. 
[22:35] <flocculant> well it is for sure ok installing with gb 
[22:36]  * flocculant has a go in french ... this will be fun ;)
[22:37] <nairwolf> you have a go in french ? What does it mean ? 
[22:38] <flocculant> that it is a good job I can install in automatic mode without reading what anything says :D
[22:39] <flocculant> nairwolf: crashed :)
[22:40] <nairwolf> oh, really ? 
[22:40] <nairwolf> you tried that now ? 
[22:40] <flocculant> what does this say? http://i.imgur.com/1D4Xpbo.png
[22:41] <nairwolf> the installer has crashed
[22:41] <nairwolf> we're sorry, the installer has crashed. When you'll close this window, we'll send a bug report, etc etc
[22:41] <flocculant> oh crud
[22:41] <flocculant> stupid french keyboard layout with a uk keyboard \o/
[22:42] <nairwolf> you think having an uk keyboard is related ? 
[22:42] <flocculant> no - I think that trying to use a french layout on a uk keyboard doesn't make entering e-mail and password very simple ... 
[22:43] <nairwolf> ah ah ;)
[22:43] <nairwolf> good luck ;)
[22:43] <nairwolf> with french layout, you have 
[22:43] <nairwolf> @ behind '0'
[22:43] <meetingology> nairwolf: Error: "behind" is not a valid command.
[22:44] <nairwolf> be quiet meetingology....
[22:47] <flocculant> wow that was fun ... 
[22:47] <nairwolf> flocculant: which vm software do you use ? virtualbox ? 
[22:48] <flocculant> kvm/qemu
[22:48] <nairwolf> oh, I'm stupid, I could have seen that ^^
[22:48] <nairwolf> Never tried
[22:49] <flocculant> right - now to fix the english with french keyboard text I wrote at bug 1615847
[22:49] <ubottu> bug 1615847 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Ubiauity crashes zith non english setup" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1615847
[22:51] <nairwolf> that's funny : 'crqshe zhile instqlling ) previously used i,qge to instqll ok ) set up previously zith enflish'
[22:51] <flocculant> :)
[22:51] <nairwolf> french keyboard uses 'azerty' as you're using qwerty
[22:52] <nairwolf> you just have to change a->q and z->w
[22:52] <nairwolf> and there is something weird with 'm', you have ',' if I remember exactly
[22:52] <flocculant> nairwolf: couldn't be bothered to fiddle - waited till I could open it up again :)
[22:56] <nairwolf> so you think there is a bug if we're using something else than english setup ?
[22:56] <flocculant> yep for sure - thanks nairwolf :)
[22:56] <flocculant> I've passed it along already :)
[22:58] <nairwolf> I'm trying again with a vm actually
[22:58] <nairwolf> just to be sure
[22:58] <flocculant> set it up with french/french keyboard - I'm positive it will crash :)
[23:06] <nairwolf> let me try firstly in english
[23:06] <nairwolf> That's really surprening because I wanted to install the devel version in english setup (with french keyboard)
[23:15] <flocculant> nairwolf: ok, so someone from Canonical has visited the bug I reported - I would guess it will get some traction - bit of an issue this :)
[23:15] <flocculant> night all
[23:15] <bluesabre> night flocculant 
[23:17] <nairwolf> okay, my vm is too slow to finish the installation ^^
[23:17] <nairwolf> that's great if you've identified the cause of this bug
[23:17] <nairwolf> good night ! 
[23:18] <nairwolf> oh, that's bad he quit right now ! 
[23:18] <nairwolf> ubiquity has crashed also even with english language (but with french keyboard)