| tsimonq2 | yofel: please take a look: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/1582270 | 03:59 |
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| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1582270 in casper (Ubuntu) "sddm only works if plasma.desktop is in /usr/share/xsessions" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 03:59 |
| sakrecoer | greetings kubuntu, i was wondering if Ubuntu Studio could get a bit of your advice. | 10:59 |
| sakrecoer | we are troubles building the ISO. last error is: | 10:59 |
| sakrecoer | "kactivitymanagerd : Breaks: kactivities (< 5.20~) but 5.18.0-0ubuntu1 is to be installed | 10:59 |
| sakrecoer | Laney told me the following in -release: "libkactivities6 has a Recommends on kactivities, which is a package that kactivities-kf5 has dropped" | 11:01 |
| sakrecoer | is this something you are experiencing too, and would you know how we can fix it? | 11:02 |
| acheronuk | sakrecoer: that looks wrong to me, and probably explains a grumble I had last time I did an upgrade to yakkety packages. | 11:22 |
| acheronuk | sakrecoer: yofel will need to take a look I imagine, and he'll be at work for European working hrs at the moment | 11:23 |
| sakrecoer | acheronuk: thanks for your response! i'll try reach out to yofel later then :) | 11:26 |
| apol | hey, can you guys look into this bug? https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=366029 | 11:34 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 366029 in Updater "Updater does not report available updates every day" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 11:34 |
| BluesKaj | 'Morning folks | 11:49 |
| === mgolden is now known as mgolden_ | ||
| clivejo | acheronuk: did you work on kirigami? | 14:44 |
| acheronuk | clivejo: I've not touched either of those imports yet. Decided to fix kwin on CI, as that was completely failing to build | 14:46 |
| acheronuk | Is it needed for anything? | 14:52 |
| sakrecoer | greeting, is yofel arround perhaps? :) | 16:12 |
| tsimonq2 | o/ sakrecoer ;) | 16:12 |
| sakrecoer | ohaj tsimonq2 ! :) | 16:12 |
| sakrecoer | \o | 16:12 |
| tsimonq2 | clivejo: do YOU know yofel's hiding spot? | 16:12 |
| tsimonq2 | :P | 16:13 |
| clivejo | a make believe world called real life :P | 16:13 |
| tsimonq2 | :O take me to this magical place! | 16:14 |
| clivejo | Im afraid you arent old enough yet | 16:14 |
| tsimonq2 | :( | 16:16 |
| clivejo | I would reckon he’s commuting and depending how his day has been he might be on later | 16:17 |
| tsimonq2 | ok | 16:18 |
| clivejo | sakrecoer: what version of Ubuntu is that? | 16:18 |
| tsimonq2 | clivejo: we're working on Beta 1 together | 16:19 |
| tsimonq2 | (I'm helping him with the flavor side of things) | 16:19 |
| sakrecoer | clivejo: Studio, we are having troubles with "kactivitymanagerd : Breaks: kactivities (< 5.20~) but 5.18.0-0ubuntu1 is to be installed | 16:19 |
| clivejo | in Xenial? | 16:20 |
| sakrecoer | clivejo: no yakkety | 16:20 |
| clivejo | !info kactivitymanagerd | 16:20 |
| ubottu | kactivitymanagerd (source: kactivitymanagerd): System service to manage user's activities. In component universe, is optional. Version 5.7.2-0ubuntu1 (yakkety), package size 154 kB, installed size 800 kB | 16:20 |
| clivejo | !info kactivities | 16:20 |
| ubottu | kactivities (source: kactivities-kf5): Runtime to organize the user work in separate activities.. In component universe, is optional. Version 5.18.0-0ubuntu1 (yakkety), package size 229 kB, installed size 1210 kB | 16:20 |
| clivejo | hummm | 16:20 |
| clivejo | maybe still stuck in proposed? | 16:21 |
| clivejo | oh that package isnt a thing any more | 16:22 |
| blaze | some people say that kdepim 5.3 is a mess, extremely unstable | 16:23 |
| sakrecoer | clivejo: 13:00 < sakrecoer> Laney told me the following in -release: "libkactivities6 has a Recommends on kactivities, which is a package that kactivities-kf5 has dropped" | 16:23 |
| clivejo | yes, the whole activities got a big update | 16:25 |
| sakrecoer | clivejo: any idea how we can solve this? | 16:28 |
| clivejo | we jumped from 5.18 in xenial to 5.24 which is current yakkety archive version | 16:28 |
| clivejo | Im guessing you guys dont use plasma | 16:30 |
| sakrecoer | clivejo: tbh, i am not very technical... | 16:32 |
| * tsimonq2 steps in here | 16:33 | |
| tsimonq2 | !info libkactivities6 yakkety | 16:33 |
| ubottu | libkactivities6 (source: kactivities): Activities library. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:4.13.3-0ubuntu6 (yakkety), package size 37 kB, installed size 170 kB | 16:33 |
| tsimonq2 | !info libkactivities7 yakkety | 16:33 |
| ubottu | Package libkactivities7 does not exist in yakkety | 16:33 |
| tsimonq2 | ...I thought that was bumped to 7 | 16:33 |
| tsimonq2 | anyways | 16:33 |
| tsimonq2 | clivejo: what do you think needs to happen if libkactivities6 recommends kactivities but can't be fulfilled? | 16:34 |
| clivejo | we dont use that any more | 16:34 |
| tsimonq2 | what don't you use? | 16:34 |
| clivejo | is Studio based on Unity? | 16:35 |
| sakrecoer | when i checked the germinate page.. it seemed like plasma framework was in there.. | 16:35 |
| sakrecoer | clivejo: no on xfce... or xubuntu.. | 16:35 |
| clivejo | but you are using kdenlive? | 16:36 |
| sakrecoer | clivejo: yes | 16:36 |
| clivejo | well libkactivities was for activities in Plasma | 16:37 |
| clivejo | what is pulling it in on your system? | 16:39 |
| sakrecoer | clivejo: i'm looking at this, but i'm fairly uncomfortable interpreting it: https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/germinate-output/ubuntustudio.yakkety/all | 16:41 |
| sakrecoer | calligra seem to pull kactivites, which in turn seems to pull plasma.. but i'm very much an00b with these dependencies things.. | 16:44 |
| clivejo | this is our new activities lib | 16:50 |
| clivejo | !info libkf5activities5 | 16:50 |
| ubottu | libkf5activities5 (source: kactivities-kf5): Library to organize the user work in separate activities.. In component universe, is optional. Version 5.24.0-0ubuntu1 (yakkety), package size 72 kB, installed size 288 kB | 16:50 |
| mhall119 | sitter: ping | 16:51 |
| clivejo | what does it say when you "apt install kactivitymanagerd" | 16:54 |
| sakrecoer | clivejo: we have no working iso to test with.. :/ | 16:54 |
| clivejo | you dont have a version in VM? | 16:56 |
| sakrecoer | available ISO fail to install... | 16:58 |
| clivejo | is this your seed -> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/germinate-output/ubuntustudio.yakkety/all | 16:59 |
| clivejo | and where are you seeing the output ""kactivitymanagerd : Breaks: kactivities (< 5.20~) but 5.18.0-0ubuntu1 is to be installed" | 17:01 |
| sakrecoer | clivejo: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/280490101/buildlog_ubuntu_yakkety_amd64_ubuntustudio_BUILDING.txt.gz | 17:01 |
| sakrecoer | or here if you prefer: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/+livefs/ubuntu/yakkety/ubuntustudio | 17:01 |
| clivejo | where is the seed list? | 17:03 |
| clivejo | something much be installing kactivities | 17:04 |
| clivejo | msut | 17:04 |
| clivejo | must | 17:04 |
| sakrecoer | https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntustudio.yakkety ...? i'm sorry, i'm not very knowledgeable on this seed germination process.. | 17:05 |
| sakrecoer | clivejo: that link you pasted above was refered to me as a way to see what depends on what... | 17:06 |
| clivejo | do you guys make use of calligra? | 17:06 |
| clivejo | ah you pull in krita | 17:07 |
| clivejo | !info krita | 17:07 |
| ubottu | krita (source: calligra): pixel-based image manipulation program for the Calligra Suite. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.9.7-0ubuntu16 (yakkety), package size 7776 kB, installed size 32002 kB | 17:07 |
| * clivejo face palms | 17:07 | |
| clivejo | krita was moved into its own source package | 17:08 |
| clivejo | sakrecoer: do you have MOTU on your team? | 17:09 |
| sakrecoer | clivejo: you mean a MOTU member? | 17:09 |
| clivejo | someone who can upload stuff | 17:10 |
| sakrecoer | yeah.. | 17:10 |
| sakrecoer | zequence | 17:10 |
| clivejo | krita and calligra really need to be updated | 17:11 |
| sakrecoer | ok.. | 17:12 |
| clivejo | unfortunately Feature Freeze was last week and it would need a FFE to get it uploaded now | 17:16 |
| sakrecoer | so better remove it altogether for now i reckon? | 17:17 |
| clivejo | well I personally would like to see it updated | 17:17 |
| clivejo | Krita 3 is amazing | 17:17 |
| sakrecoer | oh, me too... | 17:17 |
| sakrecoer | yeah, the best | 17:17 |
| clivejo | and deserves to be in yakkety | 17:17 |
| clivejo | but I dont have upload rights | 17:17 |
| clivejo | I have the one in my PPA installed locally | 17:18 |
| clivejo | https://launchpad.net/~clivejo/+archive/ubuntu/krita/+packages | 17:18 |
| sakrecoer | maybe with a little luck we can find a sponsor before final release? | 17:18 |
| clivejo | maybe | 17:19 |
| clivejo | Im got man flu at the moment and not prepared to beg or make bribes to get a sponsor | 17:19 |
| clivejo | you could open a LP bug as an FFE for krita explaining that its too old and needs updating | 17:21 |
| clivejo | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess if you want to help | 17:22 |
| sakrecoer | thank you clivejo | 17:22 |
| tsimonq2 | I'm in the mood to bribe for a sponsor | 17:23 |
| tsimonq2 | XD | 17:23 |
| clivejo | The problem is it is a brand new package as it was split from calligra | 17:23 |
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| tsimonq2 | o/ jimarvan | 17:24 |
| jimarvan | hello from sunny Zakynthos! :) | 17:24 |
| jimarvan | I cannot believe I am on holidays after a year lol | 17:24 |
| clivejo | you would probably need to file the FFE here - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/calligra | 17:25 |
| clivejo | tsimonq2: will you work with sakrecoer on this? | 17:25 |
| tsimonq2 | totally :) | 17:25 |
| clivejo | Packaging is here - https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/krita | 17:25 |
| sakrecoer | sure, i can help... make coffee and cheer up :) | 17:26 |
| * tsimonq2 hints at genii | 17:26 | |
| sakrecoer | i can even be human embarassment shield... | 17:26 |
| clivejo | I dont know how many people tested my version, but Ive been uisng it on my system up | 17:26 |
| clivejo | can you cure man flu? | 17:26 |
| * genii skedaddles to the coffeepot and gets to making a fresh batch! | 17:26 | |
| sakrecoer | clivejo: yes, no problem. | 17:27 |
| * clivejo goes for something to eat knowing he cant taste anything :( | 17:28 | |
| sakrecoer | you need: thymes, honey, garlic | 17:28 |
| sakrecoer | its a discgusting potion, but it works. | 17:28 |
| sakrecoer | clivejo: make some very strong tee with thymes, press 3 garlic portions in it. add honey to cover the taste (and for throat) serve hot. | 17:29 |
| sakrecoer | i'm serious btw. that is how i've been doing all my life. | 17:30 |
| zequence | Hi. Can't do uploads, I'm afraid, but perhaps if I understand the problem with krita I may be of some assistance. | 17:32 |
| zequence | It seems it has been removed from debian unstable | 17:32 |
| sakrecoer | good to see you here zequence :) i think clivejo just went for food... | 17:33 |
| sakrecoer | but perhaps tsimonq2 can fill you in? i was pointed towards yofel also.. | 17:34 |
| sakrecoer | regarding Krita/calligra that is. | 17:34 |
| zequence | Are those the packages causing the ISO building issues for Ubuntu Studio, then? | 17:35 |
| zequence | Or, rather krita | 17:36 |
| sakrecoer | zequence: yes, they seem to be pulling in kactivities | 17:38 |
| sakrecoer | zequence: 19:07 < clivejo> krita was moved into its own source package | 17:39 |
| sakrecoer | so i guess that means calligra is no longer the source... but yeah.. little do i know | 17:39 |
| zequence | No, I think it is. Just checking the git repos at https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/ | 17:40 |
| zequence | (which is where you get from http://git.debian.org) | 17:40 |
| zequence | The packaging team for calligra in Debian is pkg-kde | 17:40 |
| zequence | It seems the last update to that package was 8 months | 17:41 |
| zequence | ..ago | 17:41 |
| zequence | I can't do any uploads there. I only have access to pkg-multimedia repos | 17:41 |
| zequence | 2.9 was never released | 17:44 |
| zequence | So, what's going on. Is it abandoned? | 17:44 |
| sakrecoer | krita is defenitly not abandoned.. | 17:45 |
| sakrecoer | but i don't know how it looks in debian or ubuntu... | 17:46 |
| sakrecoer | zequence: https://krita.org/en/item/krita-3-0-released/ this was in may this year.. | 17:46 |
| zequence | krita is available as a snap package, so that is a way out for us. Not sure how we could include a snap on the ISO though | 17:47 |
| zequence | Yes, krita is alive and well, but in Debian it seems another story. | 17:47 |
| sakrecoer | yeah... and te snap is broken for nvidia users. | 17:48 |
| zequence | Ubuntu does not maintain calligra. It is auto-imported | 17:48 |
| zequence | Ok, that's too bad | 17:48 |
| sakrecoer | zequence: good question raised though: how does snap work with iso? | 17:48 |
| zequence | Well, no matter how we do it, an upgrade to 16.10 will break if krita is not compatible | 17:48 |
| sakrecoer | yeah... the easy way out for now is to remove it... | 17:49 |
| zequence | What one could do is subscribe to the pkg-kde mail list and ask around a bit, as well as search the archive | 17:49 |
| zequence | sakrecoer: A job for you, perhaps :) | 17:50 |
| sakrecoer | zequence: :) yes! | 17:50 |
| blaze | oh krita, why did they do beta for patch release? | 17:53 |
| jimarvan | I had also problems with krita 3.0 :/ using an old nvidia card, it was breaking bad | 17:55 |
| blaze | well, it seems they've mistyped something https://krita.org/en/item/krita-3-0-1-beta-builds/ | 17:56 |
| blaze | it's not 3.0.1 beta, it is 3.1 beta | 17:56 |
| soee_ | Plasm 5.7.4 out | 17:57 |
| * mamarley slaps soee_ around a bit with a large trout. | 17:58 | |
| soee_ | ;) | 17:59 |
| clivejo | zequence: yes krita has been moved out of calligra source | 18:42 |
| zequence | clivejo: It seems to be there still. Just that the whole thing has been dropped from Debian Unstable | 18:42 |
| clivejo | calligra is being ported to Kf5 | 18:42 |
| zequence | I was just looking at the Debian git repo for calligra. Couldn't find one for krita | 18:43 |
| clivejo | I have some initial packaging for krita here - https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/krita/ | 18:43 |
| zequence | clivejo: Oh. | 18:43 |
| clivejo | zequence: because it was part of calligra | 18:43 |
| clivejo | dont think the have new packaging yet | 18:43 |
| zequence | clivejo: So, are you about to get krita in for yakkety? | 18:44 |
| clivejo | zequence: I dont like upload rights | 18:44 |
| clivejo | have | 18:44 |
| zequence | clivejo: It's a bit late to get a new original package in for yakkety, I guess | 18:44 |
| zequence | Our concern is to get an updated krita in for yakkety, or the package needs to be removed from the archive all together. | 18:45 |
| clivejo | zequence: we really should try and get krita 3 and calligra 2.9.11 into yakkety | 18:46 |
| clivejo | but for me that requires opening FFE and begging to get it sponsored | 18:46 |
| zequence | clivejo: If your package is ok, we can help test it and do some noise | 18:47 |
| clivejo | sure, its in my ppa | 18:47 |
| sakrecoer | i can do the beggin part :) | 18:47 |
| clivejo | https://launchpad.net/~clivejo/+archive/ubuntu/krita | 18:48 |
| clivejo | have been since June | 18:48 |
| zequence | clivejo: But, I wonder how this affects the Debian imports | 18:48 |
| zequence | And, what are Debian packagers planning to do? | 18:48 |
| clivejo | I dont know, I havent seen any movement | 18:49 |
| clivejo | we (kubuntu) have been moving our packaging from Alioth to LP | 18:49 |
| zequence | clivejo: You don't do any team work with them? | 18:51 |
| clivejo | we do, but had problems getting new contributors access to Alioth | 18:52 |
| zequence | Isn't Scott K around there? I know he used to be here as well. I'm pretty ignorant about what happened just a few months ago though. | 18:52 |
| zequence | Really? That's too bad. | 18:52 |
| clivejo | hes about but has gone back to Debian | 18:53 |
| clivejo | I also attempted to get calligra into xenial but didnt manage it | 18:55 |
| clivejo | https://launchpad.net/~clivejo/+archive/ubuntu/calligra | 18:55 |
| clivejo | so I just package it and point people who want to test it to my PPA | 18:56 |
| tsimonq2 | clivejo: what's up with apps 16.04.3? | 18:56 |
| clivejo | tsimonq2: needs looked over and uploaded | 18:57 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <ahoneybun> File the FFE clivejo | 18:57 |
| clivejo | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/applications/build_status_16.04.3_yakkety.html | 18:57 |
| tsimonq2 | clivejo: uploaded where? | 18:58 |
| clivejo | tsimonq2: archive | 18:58 |
| clivejo | ahoneybun: Im in really bad form at the moment and in no way have the patients to do so | 18:58 |
| tsimonq2 | clivejo: but doesn't that require a metric sh*tton of paperwork? | 18:58 |
| clivejo | tsimonq2: of course | 18:59 |
| tsimonq2 | because of FFE :/ | 18:59 |
| tsimonq2 | clivejo: W: dolphin4: package-name-doesnt-match-sonames libdolphinprivate4-4 | 19:00 |
| tsimonq2 | clivejo: does that need to be corrected? | 19:00 |
| clivejo | but when they change the default compiler a week or so before FF which introduces issues with symbols, what are we to do | 19:00 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <ahoneybun> So you have Calligra in a ppa? | 19:00 |
| clivejo | I havent looked at calligra since xenial | 19:01 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <ahoneybun> Mm not sure if we can add things to a LTS | 19:01 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <ahoneybun> But we still have a chance with yakkety | 19:01 |
| clivejo | ahoneybun: thats what backports are for | 19:02 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <ahoneybun> If not ZZ | 19:02 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <ahoneybun> Ours but not the main archive | 19:02 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <ahoneybun> Back ports for sure | 19:02 |
| clivejo | we're had bigger fish to fry | 19:02 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <ahoneybun> I'd +1 for sure for backports | 19:02 |
| clivejo | ie Qt5.6 and PIM | 19:02 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <ahoneybun> Personally I'd drop PIM as its more of a pain then anything | 19:03 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <ahoneybun> But I'm bias as I rarely use it | 19:03 |
| clivejo | well its working fine in 16.04.3 | 19:03 |
| clivejo | but gcc6 was dropped and throw a ton of problems with symbols | 19:04 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <ahoneybun> Of course | 19:04 |
| clivejo | Im still on the pre-gcc6 builds | 19:04 |
| mamarley | They also just uploaded GCC 6.2 for yakkety. As I understand it, however, that is more of a minor release so it shouldn't cause as many problems. | 19:05 |
| tsimonq2 | yeah bugfix | 19:05 |
| clivejo | our packaging for calligra was kept here - https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/calligra | 19:08 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <ahoneybun> Cool | 19:10 |
| blaze | gcc -v tells me that 6.1.1 is my default one now | 19:11 |
| mamarley | blaze: It is still in -proposed. | 19:11 |
| blaze | never enabled proposed here | 19:12 |
| blaze | o.O | 19:12 |
| tsimonq2 | gcc version 6.1.1 20160815 (Ubuntu 6.1.1-12ubuntu11) | 19:12 |
| tsimonq2 | that's mine | 19:12 |
| mamarley | 6.2.0 is in -proposed and will presumably be copied to the main archive at some point in the near future. | 19:13 |
| blaze | so what does that mean? | 19:13 |
| mamarley | Just an explanation as to why your systems still have 6.1.1. | 19:14 |
| blaze | I just don't understand what can be possible problems due to transition to 6.x | 19:16 |
| clivejo | the problems were caused from 5 to 6 | 19:17 |
| blaze | are there some packages that cannot be rebuilt? | 19:19 |
| santa_ | they were 5 frameworks still failing to build, I have the patches awaiting in launchpad | 19:20 |
| blaze | or the problem is to rebuild in a certain sequence? | 19:20 |
| santa_ | everything wrt gcc 6 in applications is already fixed | 19:20 |
| santa_ | clivejo: btw note that I still have like 3 patches for apps 16.04.3 | 19:21 |
| santa_ | awaiting for yofels approval | 19:21 |
| blaze | so the problem is in the code which is not compiler-agnostic, right? | 19:22 |
| santa_ | not allways | 19:22 |
| santa_ | anyway this is the usual stuff when you work on a linux distribution | 19:23 |
| santa_ | with a major gcc version there's allways some packages to fix because they fail to build | 19:23 |
| blaze | i realize they're not binary compatible, that's pretty normal | 19:25 |
| blaze | but the build should be tested against more than one compiler version | 19:25 |
| blaze | before being released | 19:26 |
| tsimonq2 | blaze: well not all packages are released after GCC6 | 19:26 |
| tsimonq2 | what about GCC7? let's test against that! :P | 19:27 |
| acheronuk | santa_: if everything in apps 16.04.3 is now GCC 6 safe, and any changes for that merged into kubuntu_unstable, I guess that makes unstable as safe as it gets in that respect as well | 19:29 |
| santa_ | acheronuk: for apps 16.04.3 yes | 19:30 |
| santa_ | unless there are new upstream changes which doesn't work with gcc 6, but that's unlikely | 19:31 |
| santa_ | anyway the KCI is working already with gcc6 because it's already the default compiler, so if anything, you will notice | 19:32 |
| acheronuk | santa_: yes, I realise that, but as you say unlikely, and you have to at some point stop overly worrying on what would happen if compiled with the previous default. | 19:33 |
| clivejo | KCI should also use -proposed | 19:33 |
| clivejo | note that kubuntu_unstable branch will be working with lastest git from KDE | 19:34 |
| acheronuk | clivejo: not -proposed according to https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable/+edit-dependencies | 19:35 |
| clivejo | oh, maybe just our staging | 19:35 |
| santa_ | acheronuk: right now you have to care about 2 "defaults" the gcc 5 for xenial and the gcc 6 for yakkety | 19:35 |
| santa_ | but it's not difficult to do that | 19:36 |
| acheronuk | fortunately both are in kci at get builds from the same source, so can compare if needed | 19:37 |
| tsimonq2 | so...kubuntu_stable? | 19:46 |
| tsimonq2 | what was the point? | 19:46 |
| tsimonq2 | and what now? | 19:46 |
| blaze | still it seems to me more like organizational problem that can be avoided, rather than some technical problem | 19:48 |
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| santa_ | blaze: it's not. when a new major version of gcc is going to be set as default we get a mail from the gcc maintainer linking to test rebuilds so we can see what's failing if we have time, we fix them in advance. that simple | 19:52 |
| clivejo | acheronuk: ping | 20:19 |
| acheronuk | clivejo: pong | 20:19 |
| clivejo | do you have notes on moving bzr to git? | 20:19 |
| tsimonq2 | I have an idea | 20:20 |
| tsimonq2 | y'all know about packages.debian.org? | 20:21 |
| acheronuk | clivejo: no. I gave it that quick test with amarok, but wasn't sure if it was very really satisfactory. + the way suggested on LP gave me an error I think | 20:21 |
| tsimonq2 | I'm constantly frustrated that I have to search the respective PPAs we have and I have to go to a lot of different places just to find the freaking packages in the PPAs | 20:22 |
| tsimonq2 | that and what version is in Debian etc. | 20:22 |
| tsimonq2 | what if I took a crack at customizing the source code for that to be able to search Debian, Ubuntu, AND all of our active PPAs? | 20:22 |
| acheronuk | tsimonq2: that could be useful | 20:23 |
| clivejo | I would like a way to search PPA | 20:23 |
| tsimonq2 | and if I get it working, maybe we can host it at packages.qa.kubuntu.co.uk | 20:23 |
| tsimonq2 | great \o/ | 20:23 |
| valorie | what a great idea | 20:25 |
| valorie | since I think we have a few secret packagers who stash stuff in PPAs and never tell anybody | 20:25 |
| tsimonq2 | hehehehe ;) | 20:25 |
| ahoneybun | can you do that? | 20:33 |
| ahoneybun | pack.qa.ubuntu.co.uk | 20:33 |
| ahoneybun | lots of dots | 20:33 |
| tsimonq2 | yep | 20:38 |
| tsimonq2 | I believe so | 20:38 |
| tsimonq2 | if not we can just do packages.kubuntu.co.uk | 20:39 |
| ahoneybun | do we need a whole site for it? | 20:40 |
| ahoneybun | well domain | 20:40 |
| ahoneybun | we have http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ | 20:40 |
| ahoneybun | with a few links | 20:40 |
| acheronuk | just a search page on that would be fine? | 20:41 |
| tsimonq2 | acheronuk: well I figured it might be easy enough to make it identical to packages.debian.org except for some CSS tweaks and additional archive sections | 20:41 |
| clivejo | acheronuk: up to much? | 20:44 |
| acheronuk | clivejo: not hugely. what have you in mind? | 20:44 |
| clivejo | have a play with calligra on your container | 20:45 |
| acheronuk | what needs doing with that? | 20:46 |
| clivejo | packaging | 20:46 |
| clivejo | Im assuming that krita will disappear somewhere too | 20:47 |
| acheronuk | ok. | 20:49 |
| clivejo | do you want to? | 20:49 |
| ahoneybun | tsimonq2: sent you access to the kubuntu-manual on github | 20:49 |
| ahoneybun | let me review before you make the final push of anything | 20:50 |
| clivejo | its ok, I can hop on my own container if you are busy | 20:50 |
| tsimonq2 | k thx ahoneybun | 20:50 |
| ahoneybun | master = +1 16.04-LTS is well that's clear | 20:50 |
| ahoneybun | ex at this moment master is 16.10 | 20:51 |
| acheronuk | clivejo: no, we can do that if you like | 20:51 |
| clivejo | plus you can do the typing while Im crying and blowing my nose | 20:51 |
| acheronuk | still that bad? urgh | 20:52 |
| valorie | clivejo: I just excavated my laptop with broken hinge | 20:52 |
| valorie | 128GB SSD, SATA 3 GB HD, and some memory | 20:53 |
| clivejo | oh nice | 20:54 |
| valorie | not sure how one knows what the memory sticks are | 20:54 |
| clivejo | what kind of laptop is it? | 20:54 |
| clivejo | wee sticker on them normally | 20:54 |
| valorie | but as I recall, it was a LOT | 20:54 |
| valorie | well, sticker starts with DIMM-CT | 20:55 |
| acheronuk | nice indeed | 20:55 |
| valorie | but that's just the type | 20:55 |
| valorie | you want it all? | 20:55 |
| clivejo | wouldnt say no | 20:55 |
| valorie | ok, I'll have to trust you to erase my password/key files and such | 20:56 |
| clivejo | mine is getting past it | 20:56 |
| valorie | since it basically died | 20:56 |
| clivejo | of course | 20:56 |
| valorie | including the HD? | 20:56 |
| valorie | I might even have a lil sata box for that | 20:57 |
| tsimonq2 | LINUX UNPLUGGED TIME! :D | 20:57 |
| valorie | it was an HP laptop | 20:57 |
| valorie | loooved that box | 20:58 |
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| acheronuk | my toshiba laptop hinge broke. well the surround on the lid it mounted into really. had to take a drill to it and basically make a new fixing with some spare bit of metal and nuts and bolts | 21:00 |
| valorie | my attempts to fix failed | 21:04 |
| valorie | two laptops in a row | 21:04 |
| valorie | :( | 21:04 |
| acheronuk | it looks a bit ugly but it works. buying a whole new lid/surround was a daft price for what it was | 21:05 |
| valorie | well, since my son keeps getting new gaming laptops, getting his "old" ones has been an option for me | 21:14 |
| valorie | for the past few years | 21:14 |
| valorie | now he's given up on laptops and is back at his fancy homebuilt tower | 21:14 |
| valorie | so I'd better make this MSi last | 21:15 |
| soee | !! | 21:16 |
| soee | https://www.kdevelop.org/news/kdevelop-500-released | 21:16 |
| clivejo | sorry, lost internet again | 21:16 |
| acheronuk | clivejo: still about? | 21:16 |
| acheronuk | ahhh | 21:16 |
| valorie | yeah, they spiffed their website too | 21:18 |
| valorie | they are excited about this release | 21:18 |
| clivejo | santa_: what was the reason for modifying git-buildpackage-ppa? | 21:27 |
| clivejo | for release type? | 21:28 |
| kfunk | yeah, new website it is. you like it? :) | 21:38 |
| acheronuk | I like that you get a screenshot of what you are going to get bang straight away. | 21:40 |
| acheronuk | I've only briefly dabbled with kdevelop in the past, but now there is a decent 5 version I may try more | 21:42 |
| clivejo | have debian packaged it? | 21:45 |
| valorie | kfunk: it's awesome! | 21:45 |
| valorie | very clean and attractive | 21:45 |
| kfunk | acheronuk: yep. it's very user-oriented now. | 21:45 |
| kfunk | that was our focus | 21:45 |
| kfunk | the old one... didn't really have any focus :) | 21:46 |
| santa_ | clivejo: which modification? they are various. if you are speaking in general what I did so far was fixing bugs and making it compatible with the new tooling | 22:04 |
| santa_ | so now it's suposed to work well with depot.kde.org | 22:05 |
| clivejo | it used to work from any git repo | 22:05 |
| santa_ | and now it doesn't? | 22:05 |
| clivejo | nope | 22:05 |
| santa_ | which repository? | 22:06 |
| clivejo | calligra | 22:06 |
| ahoneybun | wow the KDevelop AppImage works | 22:28 |
| ahoneybun | built using Frameworks 5.25 and Qt 5.7.0 | 22:28 |
| acheronuk | off to try that. I have the one from blaze's ppa | 22:30 |
| ahoneybun | guessing this is what they are trying with snaps | 22:32 |
| acheronuk | 118MB | 22:33 |
| acheronuk | ah, yes, runs. using fusion Qt widgets, so not the prettiest, but there you go | 22:35 |
| kfunk | yeah, we didn't include the breeze style, that's something on our todo | 22:41 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <Clifford> Sorry rik. Internet is like a yoyo tonight and I've had enough of it | 22:43 |
| acheronuk | clivejo: no probs. staring at compilation errors is probably not my fave thing to do at this time of night anyway :P | 22:44 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <Clifford> Really gauls me paying £37 a moment for a rubbish connection | 22:46 |
| acheronuk | gauls me that 3 years ago I saw BT laying fibre 200 yards away, and I still don't have it! | 22:47 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <Clifford> *kicks stupid predictive text* | 22:48 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <Clifford> Yeah they are lying bar stewards | 22:48 |
| santa_ | clivejo: thank you very much for reporting this, please try the fix done here: https://code.launchpad.net/~panfaust/+git/kubuntu-automation/+ref/work3 | 22:48 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <Clifford> They have got millions from local and national government to provide a broadband service and didn't deliver | 22:49 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <Clifford> Rik would you test that patch? | 22:51 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <ahoneybun> Someone turn down the damn linode machine | 23:01 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <ahoneybun> It went over 100% cpu | 23:02 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <ahoneybun> Well 146% some how | 23:02 |
| acheronuk | is it still? | 23:02 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <ahoneybun> For the last 2 hours | 23:03 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <ahoneybun> Lower the jobs on KCI to 150 or something | 23:04 |
| acheronuk | compiling calligra office on my container probably didn't help | 23:05 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <ahoneybun> Yea most likely | 23:05 |
| acheronuk | though that finished 1hr ago | 23:05 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <ahoneybun> (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/l0270XoA/file_191.jpg | 23:06 |
| acheronuk | and only just had to reboot container as it went unresponsive a few mins ago | 23:06 |
| ahoneybun | that might be the reason for the unreponsive | 23:07 |
| * ahoneybun seems to have forgotten the pw | 23:07 | |
| ahoneybun | unless yofel changed it | 23:07 |
| acheronuk | yes. as said the compilation fished ok, so if it was my container maxing it out after that, then I have no clue what it was | 23:08 |
| acheronuk | seems ok now | 23:08 |
| ahoneybun | just try to limit the KCI jobs a bit please | 23:09 |
| ahoneybun | I'd rather not blow the machine up lol | 23:09 |
| acheronuk | KCI was doing nothing much. the scheduled huge job doesn't trigger for another hr | 23:10 |
| ahoneybun | then what caused the huge CPU use? | 23:11 |
| acheronuk | pbuilder doing calligra on the actual container I would guess. clive and me were testing a build | 23:12 |
| acheronuk | but as said, that finished over an hr ago | 23:13 |
| ahoneybun | mm | 23:13 |
| acheronuk | so something else odd must have been in play | 23:13 |
| acheronuk | clivejo: sorry for delay. just testing that git-buildpackage-ppa | 23:19 |
| acheronuk | clivejo & santa - seemed to download source and build ok with a fresh git clone of calligra | 23:22 |
| acheronuk | santa_ ^^ | 23:23 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <Clifford> Cool can you push it to ka git please | 23:23 |
| acheronuk | clivejo: so ok to merge that whole branch? | 23:30 |
| jbicha | please add bug 1612835 to your todo list | 23:33 |
| ubottu | bug 1612835 in kopete (Ubuntu) "Please don't depend on jasper" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1612835 | 23:33 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <Clifford> The merge request above | 23:34 |
| santa_ | acheronuk, clivejo: like rik says there's more stuff in the work3 branch awaiting merge, not just that fix | 23:36 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <Clifford> #feelathome wow amazing as I am at home *face palms* | 23:36 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <Clifford> Has it been tested? | 23:36 |
| santa_ | yes, I made a whole rebuild of frameworks/plasma/applications | 23:37 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <Clifford> In kubuntu workflow? | 23:37 |
| acheronuk | when I saw how many changes the merge made locally, I stopped | 23:37 |
| santa_ | clivejo: it was tested. what you mean kubuntu workflow? | 23:42 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <Clifford> How we use the tools | 23:44 |
| ahoneybun | I love how people file these bugs right before the freeze | 23:46 |
| santa_ | clivejo: well, that's irrelevant. the script in question to bump the build depends was tested | 23:47 |
| santa_ | clivejo: just see the diff of the commits in question please | 23:49 |
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