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pittiGood morning04:38
tsimonq2o/ pitti04:49
pittihey tsimonq2, how are you?05:01
tsimonq2great pitti, you?05:05
pittiquite fine, thanks05:06
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LocutusOfBorganybody willing to bootstrap fpc on powerpc?10:37
LocutusOfBorgthe issue that prevented installation seems fixed, but I have no knowledge/access to machines to test it10:37
LocutusOfBorginfinity, ^^ :)10:37
LocutusOfBorgBTW the fixed version is already in yakkety-proposed (in some seconds)10:37
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MirvDoes "Error in `/usr/bin/python': double free or corruption (out): 0x00003fff9c373c70" ring a bell? Seen on i386 and ppc64el autopkgtests (yade) after a successfull test run..10:57
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flexiondotorgNow we are in feature freeze for yakkety is syncing with Debian now stopped?11:17
ginggs_flexiondotorg: yes, we are in debian-import-freeze as well, use 'requestsync'11:26
flexiondotorgginggs_, Yeah, I was just read the docs :-)11:26
cjwatsonMirv: probably a bug in some extension or other11:27
mdeslaur@pilot in11:28
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voozeTheMuso: Hi, I wanted to hear if you wanted to test pulseaudio (bluetooth) with me? I haven't heard from you on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1574324 - You can also email me: joakimkoed@gmail.com if you want :)11:34
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1574324 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "pulseaudio crashes when connecting to bluetooth headphones (due to ubuntu changes?)" [High,In progress]11:34
smoserpitti, i see your name https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=809740 when digging on my related issue https://bugs.launchpad.net/cloud-images/+bug/161575111:36
ubottuDebian bug 809740 in src:initramfs-tools "initramfs-tools: Completely ignores rootdelay" [Important,Fixed]11:36
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1615751 in initramfs-tools (Ubuntu Yakkety) "ROOTDELAY= causes unnecessary delay in boot" [High,Confirmed]11:36
smoserit seems now that ROOTDELAY=300 means "please do 'sleep 300' in initramfs". Where before, it meant to do 'wait-for-udev 300', which waited up to 300 seconds until the necessary device appeared.11:37
smoserazure images have this rootdelay=300 cooked into them as it sometimes takes quite a while for azure disks to appear.  it used to mean that this worked well, now it means we sleep 300.11:38
flexiondotorgLaney, now that I have PPU for a package set can I action my own sync requests for those packages?12:11
Laneyyes12:11
flexiondotorgExcellent.12:11
flexiondotorgLaney, So requestsync without -s will do the business?12:12
pittismoser: ah, I remember -- indeed, this rootdelay= thing is FUBAR; TBH I don't see how to salvage it to anything remotely useful12:14
pittismoser: IIRC, the problem was to define what "the necessary device" actually is12:15
pittii. e. not just waiting for the root device, which we've done with udev's wait-for-root since 2006 or so12:15
pittiso if someone actually wants to use it, it's just a plain sleep(given_number) in the initramfs ATM, as there is no other definition of what it should do12:16
ginggs_flexiondotorg: you should be able to use 'syncpackage' for packages you can upload12:19
flexiondotorgginggs_, Thanks. I'll read the man page now.12:19
pittismoser: anyway, if you want to kill that sleep from initramfs-tools again, you have my full blessing :)12:20
flexiondotorgginggs_, Thanks for the pointer. That was easy :-)12:34
ginggs_flexiondotorg: yw12:35
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Odd_BlokeIs there a convention for where documentation about a package's packaging should live within the package?12:52
mgedmindebian/README.source, I think12:55
Odd_BlokeAh, yeah, that looks like it.12:57
Odd_Blokemgedmin: Thanks. :)12:57
smoserpitti, right..13:34
LocutusOfBorgpitti, can you please run htslib testsuite of version 1.3.1-2ubuntu1 against python-pysam/proposed? thanks13:34
smoseri dont understand why we dont use 'wait-for-root'13:34
smoserand why debian doesnt use 'wait-for-root'13:34
smoserdo you know that answer to that ?13:35
cyphermoxjuliank: hey; have you seen bug 1611010? I think there's an issue in apt in the pmstatus output, related to the changes to setting the locale13:36
ubottubug 1611010 in apt (Ubuntu) "yakkety desktop - non-english installation crashes with /plugininstall.py: ValueError: invalid literal for int() with base 10: ''" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/161101013:36
juliankcyphermox: Alright, I'll forward this to DonKult, he's tackling these locale bugs13:37
juliankcyphermox: Or well, maybe the APT was too old. Need to check13:37
cyphermoxthanks13:38
juliankI really hate locales13:42
juliankThe fault is probably the strprintf(status, "pmstatus:dpkg-exec:%.4f:%s\n",13:42
juliankthat's awkward13:43
* juliank wants locale free sprintf()13:43
juliankAnyway, should be easy to fix13:44
coreycbarges, bdmurray: hello, we could use a review of the openstack SRUs for bug 1614131 if you have a moment this week13:50
ubottubug 1614131 in nova (Ubuntu Xenial) "[SRU] OpenStack Mitaka point releases" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/161413113:50
pittismoser: we *do* use wait-for-root13:55
smoserwell, sort of13:55
smoserwe use a '10' now13:55
smoserwe used to use ROOTDELAY13:55
pittismoser: Debian> presumably because it's linux specific and thus it wouldn't work under BSD; although ISTR that i-t has a shell polling loop for it which should roughly behave the same13:55
smoserhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/23081737/ <-- thats what i think to get it back to properly13:55
smoserpitti, right. it has a shell polling loop13:56
smoserand then (or before, i think actually) it does sleep $ROOTDELAY13:56
smoserwhy? no clue.13:56
pittiLocutusOfBorg: I think you mean the other way around; done13:56
pittiLocutusOfBorg: but note that http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#python-pysam is depwait on i386, so that won't help on at least i38613:57
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argescoreycb: i can get to it tomorrow if tha'ts alwa6ys14:16
argesalright14:16
LocutusOfBorgpitti, not sure why archive admins didn't remove it yet14:21
pittiLocutusOfBorg: why remove?14:24
LocutusOfBorgpython-pysam NBS/i386?14:24
pittiLocutusOfBorg: why would it be removed? its depwait needs to be resolved14:25
coreycbarges, that'd be great, thanks14:27
LocutusOfBorgpitti, remove all the reverse-deps on i386 too? Debian seems to have done that AFAICS14:28
pittiLocutusOfBorg: hm, that's not quite obvious; mind filing a bug for it? (sorry, meeting now)14:28
LocutusOfBorgyep thanks14:29
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mdeslaur@pilot out15:36
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infinityLocutusOfBorg: Oh, nice.16:46
infinityLocutusOfBorg: I'll rebootstrap in a bit.16:47
* tsimonq2 silently grumbles about the lack of capitalization in the topic16:49
LocutusOfBorginfinity, I hope it is *really* fixed16:50
LocutusOfBorgyou might want to wait for elbrus to bootstrap it in Debian16:51
LocutusOfBorgas you wish16:51
LocutusOfBorgI don't want to have you loose time16:51
infinityLocutusOfBorg: It'll be trivial to do.  Also, lose, not loose. :P16:51
LocutusOfBorgtrue ;)16:51
infinity(pet peeve)16:51
LocutusOfBorgwhat is "trivial" for you, is impossible for me16:51
LocutusOfBorgand I would like to learn/have access to machines16:52
LocutusOfBorgdebian porterboxes don't allow to install stuff as root16:52
infinityInstalling as root wouldn't be strictly necessary for this.16:54
LocutusOfBorgmmm how? fpc needs fpc16:54
LocutusOfBorgor you want to cross compile it?16:54
infinitySure, but you start with a chroot that has a glibc that doesn't break fpc.16:54
LocutusOfBorgand how do you test the built binaries on a real powerpc machine?16:54
infinityThen build the new one.16:54
LocutusOfBorgok but debian has pre-built chroots16:54
infinityYeah, use jessie.16:55
LocutusOfBorgmmm ok16:55
LocutusOfBorgand then upgrade the chroot to stretch?16:55
LocutusOfBorgor save the built binaries, unpack them and run ./fpcmk whatever fails16:56
LocutusOfBorgI did that when debugging it16:56
LocutusOfBorgthanks for trying it then16:59
LocutusOfBorgI trust more your checks rather than mine ;)17:00
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bdmurraypitti, barry, mvo: Do you know enough about aptdaemon to figure out what's going wrong here? https://errors.ubuntu.com/problem/fc13839a8f16399991b1e1907d410c7f161d7fc917:12
barrybdmurray: i don't but i did notice a warning about xenial hwe eol on a server of mine17:14
bdmurraybarry: I added that stuff to Trusty and update-manager is crashing with the above a lot.17:15
barrybdmurray: offhand, no idea, sorry17:16
bdmurraybarry: okay, thanks17:16
lamontit would appear that the yakkety virt-viewer has decided that it should, by damn, take focus every time there's a change in the screen.  Any clues on how to correct this utterly antisocial and stupid behavior on its part, other than "close the window"?17:18
infinityMy PowerStation just decided it doesn't have a root filesystem.  That's not ideal.17:19
lamontinfinity: you win on the suckitude scale17:20
mvobdmurray: it smeels like a package dependencies problem, maybe something with libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-xenial: on trusty, e.g. if universe is missing or somesuch17:21
bdmurraymvo: universe missing - that sounds like a good lead.  Is there any way to get more information out of aptdaemon?17:23
mvobdmurray: hm, in a trusty chroot I get a similar error "# apt install xserver-xorg-lts-xenial"17:23
mvobdmurray: that is even with universe17:24
mvobdmurray: so maybe something broken in the backport?17:24
bdmurraymvo: hmm, I did lots of HWE upgrade testing w/o a problem.17:25
mvobdmurray: no idea, I just did a pbuilder-dist xenial login and sudo apt update; sudo apt install xserver-xorg-lts-xenial17:26
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infinityxnox: -updates should be fixed on mirrors in a couple of hours.17:32
xnoxinfinity, \o/17:44
xnoxyou are full of win =)17:44
infinityI'm full of something.17:44
coreycbarges, when you do the openstack review for me, can you reject the older uploads of nova/keystone/cinder from the review queue?  I just re-uploaded with the correct bug #.18:10
argescoreycb: ok18:10
coreycbarges, thanks18:10
argescoreycb: ok all set18:16
infinityxnox:19:04
infinitysower@z13-001:~$ apt-cache show s390-tools | grep ^Support19:04
infinitySupported: 5y19:04
infinitySupported: 9m19:04
infinityxnox: So, updates fixed, I'll worry about release later.19:04
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infinityjuliank: What did you do to python-apt?21:15
infinityjuliank: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23083200/21:15
infinityOr is that internal to apt-listchanges?  Hrm.21:15
juliankWe never had a read_changelog21:16
infinityYeah, maybe I should blame doko's last apt-listchanges upload. :P21:16
Unit193I hit that too, but not in Debian. >_>21:16
infinityhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/23083202/ definitely looks to be the culprit.21:18
infinityMight have been renamed to _read_changelog21:20
infinityBecause reasons.21:20
* infinity tests.21:20
LocutusOfBorgsigh pitti , seems cython autopkgtestsuite has the same issues21:21
LocutusOfBorgautopkgtest for python-pysam/0.7.7-1ubuntu1: amd64: Test in progress, i386: Test in progress, ppc64el: Regression ♻21:21
LocutusOfBorgmaybe we can just ignore them?21:21
infinityjuliank: Right, I blamed the wrong person, sorry. ;)21:22
LocutusOfBorginfinity, how did the fpc bootstrap go?21:26
infinityLocutusOfBorg: Not started yet.21:27
LocutusOfBorgoh... ok :) I sent a mail to Paul, in case he has something to share21:28
LocutusOfBorgI'll try now21:28
infinityUnit193: Fixes uploaded.21:36
Unit193infinity: Thanks very much, sir!21:36
infinityUnit193: We may be in the short list of people who use apt-listchanges. :P21:36
Unit193This is very true, I don't even have it prompt me after displaying, like you have.21:37
infinityUnit193: I rarely need to say no, but when I do, it's quite valuable.21:38
infinityUnit193: But such is the life of a core-dev in a devel series, I guess.  Sometimes, I see a changelog and go "wait, they did WHAT?!" and investigate (and maybe fix) before upgrading.21:38
Unit193infinity: Yeah I'm just a lowly flavor Dev, so can't fix things first.  Best I can do is hold it a bit. :P21:39
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