mwhudson | ENODOKO | 03:20 |
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pitti | Good morning | 04:38 |
tsimonq2 | o/ pitti | 04:49 |
pitti | hey tsimonq2, how are you? | 05:01 |
tsimonq2 | great pitti, you? | 05:05 |
pitti | quite fine, thanks | 05:06 |
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LocutusOfBorg | anybody willing to bootstrap fpc on powerpc? | 10:37 |
LocutusOfBorg | the issue that prevented installation seems fixed, but I have no knowledge/access to machines to test it | 10:37 |
LocutusOfBorg | infinity, ^^ :) | 10:37 |
LocutusOfBorg | BTW the fixed version is already in yakkety-proposed (in some seconds) | 10:37 |
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Mirv | Does "Error in `/usr/bin/python': double free or corruption (out): 0x00003fff9c373c70" ring a bell? Seen on i386 and ppc64el autopkgtests (yade) after a successfull test run.. | 10:57 |
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flexiondotorg | Now we are in feature freeze for yakkety is syncing with Debian now stopped? | 11:17 |
ginggs_ | flexiondotorg: yes, we are in debian-import-freeze as well, use 'requestsync' | 11:26 |
flexiondotorg | ginggs_, Yeah, I was just read the docs :-) | 11:26 |
cjwatson | Mirv: probably a bug in some extension or other | 11:27 |
mdeslaur | @pilot in | 11:28 |
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vooze | TheMuso: Hi, I wanted to hear if you wanted to test pulseaudio (bluetooth) with me? I haven't heard from you on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1574324 - You can also email me: joakimkoed@gmail.com if you want :) | 11:34 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 1574324 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "pulseaudio crashes when connecting to bluetooth headphones (due to ubuntu changes?)" [High,In progress] | 11:34 |
smoser | pitti, i see your name https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=809740 when digging on my related issue https://bugs.launchpad.net/cloud-images/+bug/1615751 | 11:36 |
ubottu | Debian bug 809740 in src:initramfs-tools "initramfs-tools: Completely ignores rootdelay" [Important,Fixed] | 11:36 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 1615751 in initramfs-tools (Ubuntu Yakkety) "ROOTDELAY= causes unnecessary delay in boot" [High,Confirmed] | 11:36 |
smoser | it seems now that ROOTDELAY=300 means "please do 'sleep 300' in initramfs". Where before, it meant to do 'wait-for-udev 300', which waited up to 300 seconds until the necessary device appeared. | 11:37 |
smoser | azure images have this rootdelay=300 cooked into them as it sometimes takes quite a while for azure disks to appear. it used to mean that this worked well, now it means we sleep 300. | 11:38 |
flexiondotorg | Laney, now that I have PPU for a package set can I action my own sync requests for those packages? | 12:11 |
Laney | yes | 12:11 |
flexiondotorg | Excellent. | 12:11 |
flexiondotorg | Laney, So requestsync without -s will do the business? | 12:12 |
pitti | smoser: ah, I remember -- indeed, this rootdelay= thing is FUBAR; TBH I don't see how to salvage it to anything remotely useful | 12:14 |
pitti | smoser: IIRC, the problem was to define what "the necessary device" actually is | 12:15 |
pitti | i. e. not just waiting for the root device, which we've done with udev's wait-for-root since 2006 or so | 12:15 |
pitti | so if someone actually wants to use it, it's just a plain sleep(given_number) in the initramfs ATM, as there is no other definition of what it should do | 12:16 |
ginggs_ | flexiondotorg: you should be able to use 'syncpackage' for packages you can upload | 12:19 |
flexiondotorg | ginggs_, Thanks. I'll read the man page now. | 12:19 |
pitti | smoser: anyway, if you want to kill that sleep from initramfs-tools again, you have my full blessing :) | 12:20 |
flexiondotorg | ginggs_, Thanks for the pointer. That was easy :-) | 12:34 |
ginggs_ | flexiondotorg: yw | 12:35 |
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Odd_Bloke | Is there a convention for where documentation about a package's packaging should live within the package? | 12:52 |
mgedmin | debian/README.source, I think | 12:55 |
Odd_Bloke | Ah, yeah, that looks like it. | 12:57 |
Odd_Bloke | mgedmin: Thanks. :) | 12:57 |
smoser | pitti, right.. | 13:34 |
LocutusOfBorg | pitti, can you please run htslib testsuite of version 1.3.1-2ubuntu1 against python-pysam/proposed? thanks | 13:34 |
smoser | i dont understand why we dont use 'wait-for-root' | 13:34 |
smoser | and why debian doesnt use 'wait-for-root' | 13:34 |
smoser | do you know that answer to that ? | 13:35 |
cyphermox | juliank: hey; have you seen bug 1611010? I think there's an issue in apt in the pmstatus output, related to the changes to setting the locale | 13:36 |
ubottu | bug 1611010 in apt (Ubuntu) "yakkety desktop - non-english installation crashes with /plugininstall.py: ValueError: invalid literal for int() with base 10: ''" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1611010 | 13:36 |
juliank | cyphermox: Alright, I'll forward this to DonKult, he's tackling these locale bugs | 13:37 |
juliank | cyphermox: Or well, maybe the APT was too old. Need to check | 13:37 |
cyphermox | thanks | 13:38 |
juliank | I really hate locales | 13:42 |
juliank | The fault is probably the strprintf(status, "pmstatus:dpkg-exec:%.4f:%s\n", | 13:42 |
juliank | that's awkward | 13:43 |
* juliank wants locale free sprintf() | 13:43 | |
juliank | Anyway, should be easy to fix | 13:44 |
coreycb | arges, bdmurray: hello, we could use a review of the openstack SRUs for bug 1614131 if you have a moment this week | 13:50 |
ubottu | bug 1614131 in nova (Ubuntu Xenial) "[SRU] OpenStack Mitaka point releases" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1614131 | 13:50 |
pitti | smoser: we *do* use wait-for-root | 13:55 |
smoser | well, sort of | 13:55 |
smoser | we use a '10' now | 13:55 |
smoser | we used to use ROOTDELAY | 13:55 |
pitti | smoser: Debian> presumably because it's linux specific and thus it wouldn't work under BSD; although ISTR that i-t has a shell polling loop for it which should roughly behave the same | 13:55 |
smoser | http://paste.ubuntu.com/23081737/ <-- thats what i think to get it back to properly | 13:55 |
smoser | pitti, right. it has a shell polling loop | 13:56 |
smoser | and then (or before, i think actually) it does sleep $ROOTDELAY | 13:56 |
smoser | why? no clue. | 13:56 |
pitti | LocutusOfBorg: I think you mean the other way around; done | 13:56 |
pitti | LocutusOfBorg: but note that http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#python-pysam is depwait on i386, so that won't help on at least i386 | 13:57 |
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arges | coreycb: i can get to it tomorrow if tha'ts alwa6ys | 14:16 |
arges | alright | 14:16 |
LocutusOfBorg | pitti, not sure why archive admins didn't remove it yet | 14:21 |
pitti | LocutusOfBorg: why remove? | 14:24 |
LocutusOfBorg | python-pysam NBS/i386? | 14:24 |
pitti | LocutusOfBorg: why would it be removed? its depwait needs to be resolved | 14:25 |
coreycb | arges, that'd be great, thanks | 14:27 |
LocutusOfBorg | pitti, remove all the reverse-deps on i386 too? Debian seems to have done that AFAICS | 14:28 |
pitti | LocutusOfBorg: hm, that's not quite obvious; mind filing a bug for it? (sorry, meeting now) | 14:28 |
LocutusOfBorg | yep thanks | 14:29 |
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mdeslaur | @pilot out | 15:36 |
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infinity | LocutusOfBorg: Oh, nice. | 16:46 |
infinity | LocutusOfBorg: I'll rebootstrap in a bit. | 16:47 |
* tsimonq2 silently grumbles about the lack of capitalization in the topic | 16:49 | |
LocutusOfBorg | infinity, I hope it is *really* fixed | 16:50 |
LocutusOfBorg | you might want to wait for elbrus to bootstrap it in Debian | 16:51 |
LocutusOfBorg | as you wish | 16:51 |
LocutusOfBorg | I don't want to have you loose time | 16:51 |
infinity | LocutusOfBorg: It'll be trivial to do. Also, lose, not loose. :P | 16:51 |
LocutusOfBorg | true ;) | 16:51 |
infinity | (pet peeve) | 16:51 |
LocutusOfBorg | what is "trivial" for you, is impossible for me | 16:51 |
LocutusOfBorg | and I would like to learn/have access to machines | 16:52 |
LocutusOfBorg | debian porterboxes don't allow to install stuff as root | 16:52 |
infinity | Installing as root wouldn't be strictly necessary for this. | 16:54 |
LocutusOfBorg | mmm how? fpc needs fpc | 16:54 |
LocutusOfBorg | or you want to cross compile it? | 16:54 |
infinity | Sure, but you start with a chroot that has a glibc that doesn't break fpc. | 16:54 |
LocutusOfBorg | and how do you test the built binaries on a real powerpc machine? | 16:54 |
infinity | Then build the new one. | 16:54 |
LocutusOfBorg | ok but debian has pre-built chroots | 16:54 |
infinity | Yeah, use jessie. | 16:55 |
LocutusOfBorg | mmm ok | 16:55 |
LocutusOfBorg | and then upgrade the chroot to stretch? | 16:55 |
LocutusOfBorg | or save the built binaries, unpack them and run ./fpcmk whatever fails | 16:56 |
LocutusOfBorg | I did that when debugging it | 16:56 |
LocutusOfBorg | thanks for trying it then | 16:59 |
LocutusOfBorg | I trust more your checks rather than mine ;) | 17:00 |
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bdmurray | pitti, barry, mvo: Do you know enough about aptdaemon to figure out what's going wrong here? https://errors.ubuntu.com/problem/fc13839a8f16399991b1e1907d410c7f161d7fc9 | 17:12 |
barry | bdmurray: i don't but i did notice a warning about xenial hwe eol on a server of mine | 17:14 |
bdmurray | barry: I added that stuff to Trusty and update-manager is crashing with the above a lot. | 17:15 |
barry | bdmurray: offhand, no idea, sorry | 17:16 |
bdmurray | barry: okay, thanks | 17:16 |
lamont | it would appear that the yakkety virt-viewer has decided that it should, by damn, take focus every time there's a change in the screen. Any clues on how to correct this utterly antisocial and stupid behavior on its part, other than "close the window"? | 17:18 |
infinity | My PowerStation just decided it doesn't have a root filesystem. That's not ideal. | 17:19 |
lamont | infinity: you win on the suckitude scale | 17:20 |
mvo | bdmurray: it smeels like a package dependencies problem, maybe something with libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-xenial: on trusty, e.g. if universe is missing or somesuch | 17:21 |
bdmurray | mvo: universe missing - that sounds like a good lead. Is there any way to get more information out of aptdaemon? | 17:23 |
mvo | bdmurray: hm, in a trusty chroot I get a similar error "# apt install xserver-xorg-lts-xenial" | 17:23 |
mvo | bdmurray: that is even with universe | 17:24 |
mvo | bdmurray: so maybe something broken in the backport? | 17:24 |
bdmurray | mvo: hmm, I did lots of HWE upgrade testing w/o a problem. | 17:25 |
mvo | bdmurray: no idea, I just did a pbuilder-dist xenial login and sudo apt update; sudo apt install xserver-xorg-lts-xenial | 17:26 |
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infinity | xnox: -updates should be fixed on mirrors in a couple of hours. | 17:32 |
xnox | infinity, \o/ | 17:44 |
xnox | you are full of win =) | 17:44 |
infinity | I'm full of something. | 17:44 |
coreycb | arges, when you do the openstack review for me, can you reject the older uploads of nova/keystone/cinder from the review queue? I just re-uploaded with the correct bug #. | 18:10 |
arges | coreycb: ok | 18:10 |
coreycb | arges, thanks | 18:10 |
arges | coreycb: ok all set | 18:16 |
infinity | xnox: | 19:04 |
infinity | sower@z13-001:~$ apt-cache show s390-tools | grep ^Support | 19:04 |
infinity | Supported: 5y | 19:04 |
infinity | Supported: 9m | 19:04 |
infinity | xnox: So, updates fixed, I'll worry about release later. | 19:04 |
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infinity | juliank: What did you do to python-apt? | 21:15 |
infinity | juliank: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23083200/ | 21:15 |
infinity | Or is that internal to apt-listchanges? Hrm. | 21:15 |
juliank | We never had a read_changelog | 21:16 |
infinity | Yeah, maybe I should blame doko's last apt-listchanges upload. :P | 21:16 |
Unit193 | I hit that too, but not in Debian. >_> | 21:16 |
infinity | http://paste.ubuntu.com/23083202/ definitely looks to be the culprit. | 21:18 |
infinity | Might have been renamed to _read_changelog | 21:20 |
infinity | Because reasons. | 21:20 |
* infinity tests. | 21:20 | |
LocutusOfBorg | sigh pitti , seems cython autopkgtestsuite has the same issues | 21:21 |
LocutusOfBorg | autopkgtest for python-pysam/0.7.7-1ubuntu1: amd64: Test in progress, i386: Test in progress, ppc64el: Regression ♻ | 21:21 |
LocutusOfBorg | maybe we can just ignore them? | 21:21 |
infinity | juliank: Right, I blamed the wrong person, sorry. ;) | 21:22 |
LocutusOfBorg | infinity, how did the fpc bootstrap go? | 21:26 |
infinity | LocutusOfBorg: Not started yet. | 21:27 |
LocutusOfBorg | oh... ok :) I sent a mail to Paul, in case he has something to share | 21:28 |
LocutusOfBorg | I'll try now | 21:28 |
infinity | Unit193: Fixes uploaded. | 21:36 |
Unit193 | infinity: Thanks very much, sir! | 21:36 |
infinity | Unit193: We may be in the short list of people who use apt-listchanges. :P | 21:36 |
Unit193 | This is very true, I don't even have it prompt me after displaying, like you have. | 21:37 |
infinity | Unit193: I rarely need to say no, but when I do, it's quite valuable. | 21:38 |
infinity | Unit193: But such is the life of a core-dev in a devel series, I guess. Sometimes, I see a changelog and go "wait, they did WHAT?!" and investigate (and maybe fix) before upgrading. | 21:38 |
Unit193 | infinity: Yeah I'm just a lowly flavor Dev, so can't fix things first. Best I can do is hold it a bit. :P | 21:39 |
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