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KilosResearcher morning06:38
KilosResearcher ping07:03
Kilospavlushka07:06
pavlushkayes please07:06
Kiloswe need to get someone to wake Researcher up07:07
pavlushkaKilos: you might ask barlas mustu07:09
Kilosask them for me please, i have many mails to answer07:09
pavlushkaKilos: sure07:09
ResearcherGood morning07:27
Researcher:)07:27
Researcherhi hi hi07:27
barlasResearcher: Wake up!07:27
Kiloshi Researcher07:27
Researcherhi barlas07:27
Researcherhi kilos07:27
barlasWow, nice timing :P07:27
Researcheri am at work  bro07:27
Researcher:D07:27
Researcheri was waiting for your msg barlas :D07:27
Researcheri am a jenie in a bottle07:28
Researcherhi kilos how are ya bro07:28
barlas:D07:28
Kilosim ok ty Researcher check your pm07:29
Researcherreplied Kilos07:29
pavlushkaResearcher: so you like Aguilera?07:30
Researcherwell i love spanish peeps07:31
Researcher:D07:31
Researcherthey are nice guys07:31
lubmildzień07:47
Kiloshi lubmil07:47
Researcherhej lubmil07:52
Researcher:)07:52
lubmilhejka Researcher :)07:52
lubmilcześć Kilos07:52
Researcher:D07:55
Kiloshi psychicist08:02
Kilosyou never chat here, why?08:02
Researcherpsychicist : Kilos is my good friend :)08:14
Researcherpsychicist : i know you are quite busy08:15
Researcher:D08:15
Researcherwb Kilos08:21
Researcher:)08:21
* Researcher slaps RajRajRaj around a bit with a large trout08:22
ResearcherRajRajRaj uth ja meray bhai08:22
Researcherkia sota rehta hay08:22
* Researcher starts his harley and runssssss.............08:22
psychicisthi Researcher :)08:37
psychicistyes, I know Kilos :)08:37
Researcherhi man08:37
Researcher:D08:37
Researcheratleast you speak08:37
psychicistyeah08:38
psychicistbecause this is my Kubuntu virtual machine08:38
Researcherohhh08:38
Researcheryou should install znc08:38
psychicistand during the day I have little time to check this08:38
Researcherand access it from your windows main machine08:38
Researcher:)08:38
psychicistoh, I mean I just don't get time08:38
psychicisthaha08:38
psychicistI don't want to use Windows for anything but work :)08:38
psychicistmy job, that is08:39
Researcherhi psydroid08:40
Researcher:)08:40
Researcherpsychicist i understand everyone is busy here08:41
Researcher:)08:41
psydroidhi Researcher :)08:47
psydroidthis will make it a bit easier for me to be active here08:47
psydroidlong time no see btw :D08:47
Researchercooool08:54
Researcherhi tacod08:54
tacodhey Researcher08:54
Researcherhi my dear tacod08:54
Researcher:D08:54
Researcheryo yo yo08:54
tacodHow are you?08:54
tacodResearcher: so guess what I did today08:58
=== lubmilk is now known as lubmil
Researchertell me tacod09:02
Researcher:)09:02
Researcheryou have smoke the whole weed09:02
Kiloslol09:03
tacodResearcher: I smoked all the weed I have left, but that's not the important thing09:03
tacodI earned $119 today.09:03
Researcherlol09:04
tacodfrom mi madre09:04
tacodResearcher: also I put together that computer I've been meaning to get running09:05
tacodit has an intel celeron (2.7GHz/128K/800MHz) and 1GB RAM. I'm going to install DOS on it if I can get the install disks to write to a zip disk09:06
tacodthen it's time for coding09:06
tacod(yay driver programming)09:07
tacodpossibly will dual boot win98 and DOS if I can get it working09:07
tacodlets hope increasing my graphics memory for onboard VGA from 1MB to 8MB will make the crashes stop while attempting to set the resolution to the monitor's native res09:12
tacodand we're still having issues ._.09:13
* tacod throws franken-computer out the window09:13
tacodfuck it I'm writing my own operating environment.09:16
tacodYES!09:17
tacodNATIVE FUCKING RES!09:17
lubmilKilos: :)09:22
Kilos:D09:22
tacodwho wants to see a picture of the computer I've been working on09:23
tacod?09:23
tacodbecause if you do the answer is "too bad"09:23
tacodmy phone is dead and I don't have another good camera09:23
Kiloslol09:26
tacodthough I may take a pic or twenty for you guys to laugh at09:27
tacodthe CPU heat sink is literally tied to the motherboard (with zip ties to tighten it down)09:27
tacodbut it makes good contact and doesn't wiggle too much so that's all that matters.09:28
Researcherhi habbasi09:28
Researcherwelcome to ubuntu-pk team09:28
ResearcherKilos : we have a new brother in the channel, habbasi09:28
tacodhabbasi: o/09:29
Kiloshi habbasi09:29
habbasiHello, everyone.09:29
ResearcherHabbasi we have people from every corner of this world09:29
Researchermost of them are real talented people09:29
tacodfor the most part09:29
tacodand then there's me09:29
tacod/jk09:30
habbasiSo, do people just discuss stuff here or also help?09:30
Researchereverything09:31
Researcherwe do jokes09:31
Researcherwe discuss complex technical issues09:31
Researchernetworking tech any thing you like09:31
Researcher:)09:31
Researcherhi dan-09:33
Researcher:D09:33
Researcheri hope you are sleepy09:34
Researcherhabbasi let us know about you.09:34
Researcherso people can see the logs of this chat09:34
Researcher:)09:34
habbasiEveryone can already see my real name from my /whois.09:34
habbasiI'm Hameer Abbasi, a 24-yo student at TU Darmstadt. MS Information and Communication Engineering.09:35
Researchercool09:35
Researcherand what types of projects you are doing09:36
habbasiRight now? For volunteer projects I'm one of the founders of FurCode, I volunteer on #techsupport on Snoonet, I contribute articles sometimes to DigitalOcean.09:37
Researcheramazing.09:37
habbasiAnd one other I have an NDA on, but you can find details here: http://www.retroatk.com/09:37
Researchernice project :)09:38
Researcheri can understand the reason of NDA09:38
Researcherwell i am simply into linux security09:39
Researchervuln assement, infrastructure consultant09:39
Researchermy speciality is building intelligent networks09:40
Researcherproviding organizational wide I.T implementation09:40
habbasiWhat kind of stack do you use?09:40
habbasiYeah, when LUMS hosted the Pakistan mirror of Ubuntu's archives, half the packages were missing/broken.09:41
Researcherwell obviously we are into fiber technology now and we trust on FORTINET09:41
habbasiHow are things now? We ought to fix that, it was one of the biggest barriers to entry for Pakistanis.09:42
Researcherthings are fine now09:42
Researchereverywhere09:42
habbasiThat's good to hear.09:42
Researchersuch remote areas exsist at every corner of this world... but pakistani is getting better everyday and every minute09:43
habbasiHow many Pakistanis are in here, out of interest?09:43
Researcheri read news the security issues are very under control09:43
Researcherlot of we have 6 pakis from usa, uk, poland and middle east here09:44
Researcheri just message FaisalRabbani09:44
Researcherhe is in poland will be joining in here soon09:44
habbasiAnd what about people in Pakistan? If we're going to organize meet-ups we need some of those.09:45
Researcherobviously09:45
Researcherwe have people here who are involve since quite a long time with loco team, but unfortunately the failed leadership ruin the efforts09:45
Researcherwe are expecting a huge change soon09:46
habbasiI've seen that happen.09:46
Researcherand new recruitments09:46
Researchereveryone is welcome09:46
Researcherthere is no commitment, only one requirement, humanity ... which is a true physolopy of ubuntu09:47
habbasiIs there a Cloudbot-based bot in here?09:47
habbasiOr any bot, for utility commands, etc.09:48
habbasiResearcher: Yes, obviously. Promote ALL the Ubuntu. :D09:48
Researcherhehehe09:48
Researcher:)09:48
Researcherwell habbasi the PKbot is under development and beta09:49
habbasiPython?09:49
Researcherperl and tcl09:49
Researcherwe have lot of tcl experts in the channel09:49
Researcherincluding FireEgl from romania, the windrop official maintainer09:49
habbasiI've toyed with Tcl, but that's about it.09:50
ResearcherVigilant : anser bhai, the tcl bot author ..09:50
habbasiIs it open-source like the rest of Ubuntu?09:50
Researcherbarlas is an API coder09:50
Researchertcl is just a language and opensource09:51
habbasiI know, I meant the bot, not the language.09:51
Researcheryes it is opensource09:51
Researcherbut not yet having any blueprints09:51
Researcherbut truely dedicated to loco team pakistan09:51
Researcherbetween habbasi sahab, i am 33 years old09:52
Researcher:)_09:52
Researchermustu also the great contributor for the loco09:52
Researcherzmeu is the romanian entrepreneur abd a good friend09:53
Researcherhe is the servers guru09:53
Researcherwe have nice people in the channel09:54
Researcherdan- a great guy and Entrepreneur09:54
ResearcherChiefJustice the polish law student and a nice friend09:55
Researcherlubmil : the polish bot scientish .. you will see lot of weird spamy line on main from his bot09:55
Researcherlol09:55
habbasiProbably a weeedbot fork.09:55
FaisalKhanhey09:57
FaisalKhandezien09:57
FaisalKhan:)09:57
habbasiHello, FaisalKhan.09:57
FaisalKhanhi habbasi hi res09:57
FaisalKhansup guys09:57
FaisalKhani am bit in a hurry catch you laters09:58
Researcheri am fine09:58
Researcheryar tu kaha hay09:58
Researcherahhh09:58
Researcherchal theek hay call me when you are free09:58
Researcherhabbasi Faisal is completing his Ph.D09:58
habbasiOh, what topic?09:59
Researcherhis subject is Data Packets tagging and security09:59
habbasiNice. I'll probably have a few questions for him at some point.09:59
Researcherhis concept is to tag every data09:59
habbasiOh, God no.10:00
Researcherso that we can track the origin of data10:00
Researcheryeah this is his 6th year into research10:00
Researcher:)10:00
habbasiWell, it will help with things like IP spoofing, but it will annoy stuff like Tor.10:00
Researcherand he is going to DEFCON for premier of his work10:01
Researcheryes obviously the deepweb need to be shutdown10:01
habbasiThe deep web has its uses against oppressive governments.10:01
Researcherthis technology were never made to threaten humanity10:01
habbasiEspecially journalists and sources.10:01
Researcherwell its a black market they sell child porn weeds markets, porn and sex10:02
Researcheri never experienced any constructive thing in the deepweb10:02
habbasiThey do, yes. But that is a small part of it.10:02
Researcherso i quit after being there for 8 years10:02
habbasiMaybe you were looking for the wrong stuff. The deep web isn't exactly search-engine friendly.10:03
Researcheri can agree the point where the exchange of information is possible without being scanned via deepweb10:03
Researcherbut how constructive it is ... still a valid question but unanswered10:03
Researcheri were part of the onion routing engineering10:03
Researcherand i were few first contributor of exit nodes10:04
Researcherbut again10:04
habbasiEverything has a flip side. :)10:04
Researcherexactly10:04
Researcherthat flip is really horrible10:05
Researcherwe meant it for privacy10:05
habbasiBut the top is really important too.10:05
Researchernot for piracy10:05
habbasiImagine a world where journalists can't protect their sources.10:05
habbasiThose in power would reign free.10:06
Researcherhabbasi journalists or the people who took over the media right now10:06
habbasiReal journalists. Like the Intercept.10:06
Researcherto be honest what i see on facebook i dont see in newses10:06
habbasiOr Wikileaks.10:06
Researcherwikileaks is a biggest scam10:06
Researcherlike Mars and Europa10:06
Researcherits a scam10:07
habbasiFunnily enough, the US government doesn't even say anything they leaked is false in any way.10:07
habbasiIn any case, SecureDrop works over Tor and is used by The Washington Post, The Guardian and the The New York Times as well.10:09
Researcherwell the data is in terrabite ... a us law enforment agencies have a very strict procedures and policies.. few kbs of data might get uploaded via tricks.. few mbs might got hacked and took out of such secure areas ... but such a terrabite of data is being leaked and non stop it is getting leak10:09
habbasiIf it is wrong then it should get leaked.10:09
habbasiProcedures and policies should protect the people, not the gov't.10:09
Researcherif govt. stays the people stays10:10
habbasiI disagree, Switzerland has one of the highest levels of quality of life. There, the people vote directly on the law, instead of lawmakers.10:11
Researcherwell if you are giving me the example of Switzerland .. then confirm me if you have seen the bizarre openning ceremoney in switzerland10:12
Researcherwhat we see may glitter .. but dosent mean it is gold10:13
habbasiResearcher: If you mean the Olympics, that's Rio, not Switzerland.10:13
Researcheri am ref: to tunnel ceremoney10:13
Researcherthat demonic tunnel10:13
Researcheri dont remember the name10:13
ResearcherGotthard Base Tunnel10:14
Researcherhabbasi : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1Xg7lYuYus10:14
Researcherflip side may be different then we expect.10:15
habbasiResearcher: I read about it, don't need to watch it. But in any case, you cannot demean something because of isolated incidents. You need statistics.10:15
Researcherwell i heard this inside deepweb very loud10:16
habbasiI would prefer a world with a little child porn rather than a lot of oppressive dictators. Of course, opinions differ.10:16
Researcheryes critics do the continous improvements ... and we need it.10:17
Researcheri would say.. that we need a chain of people.... hands in hands .. together and forever ... lets walk together .. no matter who you are and where you from ... if we are better.... then help other to improve ..10:22
Researcherhabbasi sahab : its been really nice talking to you.10:23
barlasSomeone mentioned me?10:40
barlasHello habbasi10:41
habbasibarlas: I'm new here. Scroll to 10:34 UTC time for introduction.10:42
habbasiWait, no, 9:34.10:43
habbasiMy bad.10:43
barlas:D10:43
Kiloslol10:44
Kiloshi barlas10:45
Kiloshabbasi you like making old peeps work10:45
habbasiKilos: In what sense?10:46
Kilosmaking poor barlas scroll to your intro10:46
Kiloshehe10:46
habbasiKilos: Oh, I assumed he had a scrollback.10:46
Kilosim sure he has10:47
habbasiIn any case,10:47
Kilosjust teasing10:47
habbasiOkay. XD10:47
barlas:)10:48
Kilosteasing and joking keeps me young10:48
habbasiWhich begs the question, how old are you?10:48
Kilos6510:48
barlasonly10:49
Kilosoh also fighting for ubuntu helps as well10:49
barlashabbasi: Isn't that retroatk thing a bit umm... illegal? :)10:50
barlasActually, nevermind10:50
barlasYou aren't sharing any ROMs, so the console should be legal10:51
lubmilChiefJustice: wstawaj, bo cię okradną10:58
habbasibarlas: It's meant to be a user-friendly way of dumping the ROMs and sending it to various emulators.11:00
habbasibarlas: We don't provide any ROMs.11:00
barlasYeah, that should be fine11:02
Researcherhi Zuu_ and tacod11:15
Researchertacod : what if i tell you, ubuntu version (Lubuntu) can work on your spare pc, and give you a performance of i5 :p11:17
Zuu_Hi Researcher :)11:22
* Zuu_ steals all of Researcher's research11:23
Researcherhhehehe11:23
ResearcherZuu_ it is useless for a butcher11:24
Researcher:p11:24
Zuu_Well, that's ok, because I'm a combi farmer and hairstylist11:24
Researcherlol11:26
Researchernoway11:26
Kiloswhat is a combi farmer?11:26
ResearcherZuu_ then you and kilos will become best friend11:26
ResearcherCombi II - Farmer Automatic. Combi II. Combi II is a highly flexible housing system for layers. The unique advantage of this system is that it can be used as an open aviary or with closed sections to suit individual needs.11:26
Kilosaha11:27
Researcherright Zuu_11:27
Researcher:D11:27
Zuu_Kilos, a combination of a farmer and hairstyist11:27
Kilosoh combi as combined11:27
Zuu_yeh :P11:28
Kiloscool11:28
Zuu_Sometimes i farm hair, and style the fields, and sometimes i farm cows, and style their hair11:28
Researcherat first place i thought you are into corn farming .. i mean the word was really new for me11:28
Kiloshahaha11:28
ResearcherZuu_ you are now a good friend of Kilos11:29
Researcher:D11:29
Zuu_I have acres full of just hairy fields11:29
ResearcherKilos lets get a new hair style for your sheeps11:29
Zuu_Haha11:29
Kiloswhat crops Zuu_11:29
Zuu_both blonde, and red, and some brown too11:29
Researcherwow11:29
ResearcherZuu_ i love the farm fresh things11:29
Researcher:p11:29
Zuu_:>11:30
ResearcherZuu_ please arrange a party for us :p11:30
Zuu_\o/11:30
Kilosfarmers keep the country fed11:30
Zuu_parties ar all over at ##fun though :P11:30
Zuu_Kilos, oh, dont eat the hair!11:30
Kiloslol11:30
Kilosyou dont have a field full of hair growing11:31
* Zuu_ puts a slab of crop on Kilos's head, and styles the shit out of the hair :P11:31
Kiloshahaha11:31
Zuu_Soo sechsy :>11:32
* Zuu_ gies Researcher a freshly grown slab of hair too, with sechsy styles11:32
Zuu_Kilos, You know what the hardest part about farming hair is?11:33
Kilostell me11:34
Zuu_harvesting it11:34
Kiloslol11:34
Kilosthats the hardest part of farming anything11:35
Zuu_Oh... hmm11:35
Zuu_Only ever farmed hair :>11:35
Kiloslike peanuts and beet and potatoes11:35
Kilosand maize and corn11:36
Kilosfarming is always hard work11:36
Zuu_24/711:36
Zuu_You style your fields?11:36
Kiloslol11:37
Zuu_:D11:37
Zuu_k, gotta go be productive :)11:37
Kilosenjoy11:37
reddsiki didn't know there are so many lamers on irc..11:59
mustuwow so much discussion....12:02
=== lubmil is now known as lub`
Researcherhhehe12:55
Researcherhi mustu12:55
Researcher:)12:55
Researcherhi kilos-12:56
Researcherwb12:56
Kilos-o/12:56
Kilos-ty12:56
Researchero/12:56
Researcher:)12:56
Researcherwb mustu_12:56
Researcher:D12:57
mustu_hey Researcher12:57
Researcherheeeyyyy12:57
mustu_how'sit going12:57
Researchermustu how are ya12:57
Researcherfine fine, we have a new guru here in the chan, do meet habbasi when he is online.12:57
Researchera nice guy and lot of talent like you.12:57
Researcher:D12:57
mustu_ya i was reading the archive :)12:58
Researcherbetween how you are doing mustu_12:58
Researcherlooks like today the freenode servers are not happy12:59
Researcherlot of ping timeout12:59
Researcher:)12:59
Kilos-yeah13:04
=== Kilos- is now known as Kilos
Researcherhi zaki wb14:05
lubmil!dk16:09
ChanSebalubmil: smacznej kawy! :)16:09
=== ChiefJustice is now known as PanProkurator
=== PanProkurator is now known as AttorneyGeneral
lubmilraj :)18:07
RajRajRajlubmil: :)18:46
lubmil.tr :pl :en ale masz refleks :)18:47
ChanSebabut you have reflexes :)18:47
RajRajRajlubmil: what18:47
lubmil.tr :pl :en nie, nic18:47
ChanSebano, nothing18:47
RajRajRaj.tr :en :pl what happened lubmil18:48
ChanSebaco się stało lubmil18:48
lubmil[20:07:55] <lubmil> raj :)18:48
lubmil[20:46:47] <RajRajRaj> lubmil: :)18:48
RajRajRajYes18:48
RajRajRaj.tr :en :pl so ?18:49
ChanSebatak ?18:49
lubmiltak18:49
RajRajRajlubmil: ?18:51
RajRajRaj.tr :en :pl i am having headache :(18:51
ChanSebamam ból głowy :(18:51
RajRajRaj.tr :en :pl i am scared :(18:51
ChanSebaboję się :(18:51
lubmil.tr :pl :en biedny18:54
ChanSebapoor18:54
lubmil.tr :pl :en współczuję18:54
ChanSebasorry18:54
lubmil.tr :pl :en nieprzetłumaczalne słowo ;/18:55
ChanSebauntranslatable word ;/18:55
lubmilfeel sorry18:57
RajRajRaj.tr :en :pl lubmil its ok i understand18:58
ChanSebalubmil dobrze go rozumiem18:58
lubmilyhy18:58
lubmil.tr :pl :en znasz język polski?18:59
ChanSebayou know Russian language?18:59
lubmilkurwa18:59
ChanSebaMmmm, kurwa.18:59
lubmil.tr :pl :en Polski19:00
ChanSebaRussian19:00
lubmilChanSeba:  jak ci jebnę ;>19:00
RajRajRaj.tr :en :pl i mean i understood your intention19:00
ChanSebamam na myśli, rozumiem twoje intencje19:00
lubmilach19:00
RajRajRaj.tr :pl :en ach19:01
ChanSebaOh19:01
lubmil.tr :pl :en aha19:01
ChanSebayeah19:01
lubmil.tr :en :pl yeah19:01
ChanSebatak19:01
RajRajRaj.tr :en :pl what will happen if i dont take medicine19:01
ChanSebaco będzie, jeśli nie brać leki19:01
lubmil.tr :pl :en to bierz lekarstwa, jaki ci lekarz zapisał19:02
ChanSebatake medications as your doctor wrote19:02
RajRajRaj.tr :en :pl no i didnot go to doctor19:03
ChanSebanie, nie pójdę do lekarza19:03
lubmil.tr :pl :en koniecznie idź do lekarza19:03
ChanSebabe sure to go to the doctor19:03
RajRajRaj.tr :en :pl i m assuming that pain will go away in night19:03
ChanSebazakładam, że ból zniknie w nocy19:03
lubmil.tr :pl :en jeśli cię mocno boli i się boisz, to nie są żarty19:04
ChanSebaif you're really hurting and you're afraid this is no joke19:04
RajRajRaj.tr :en :pl its hurting :(19:04
ChanSebago boli :(19:04
lubmil.tr :pl :en dlatego koniecznie do medyka19:06
ChanSebaso be sure to the medic19:06
lubmil.tr :pl :en mnie lewa ręka i noga bolą cały czas ;/19:07
ChanSebaI left hand and foot hurt all the time ;/19:07
lubmil.tr :pl :en ale już się przyzwyczaiłem19:07
ChanSebabut I'm used to19:07
lubmil.tr :en :pl but I'm used to19:08
ChanSebaale jestem przyzwyczajony19:08
pavlushkahello RajRajRaj !19:09
lubmil.tr :pl :en cisza20:03
ChanSebasilence20:03
ahoneybunKilos: around?20:13
Kilosyessir20:13
ahoneybunKilos: mhall119 is on the CC20:13
Kiloswelcome mhall11920:13
mhall119hello20:14
mhall119is this about the websites?20:14
Kilosyessir20:14
ahoneybunthe mailing list no>20:14
Kilosoh no20:14
Kilosthe list admins20:14
mhall119oh, ok20:14
Kilossorry im falling asleep already20:14
* ahoneybun gives Kilos redbull20:14
Kilosand these guys are mostly asleep already as well20:15
Kiloshehe ty ahoneybun20:15
lubmil.tr :en :pl and these guys are mostly asleep already as well20:15
mhall119yeah, it's pretty much the middle of the night there20:15
ChanSebai te chłopaki już w zasadzie śpi również20:15
ahoneybunKilos: where is the link to that IRC chatlog?20:15
Kilosoh my20:15
ahoneybunthe topic of ' pk prob' that you sent me20:15
Kilosthis channel was dead back then20:16
Kilosi saved the chat20:16
ahoneybunmhall119: tdlr: the mailing list needs a new owner20:16
Kilosi can mail it20:16
ahoneybunthe old one has left and Kilos has been approving people on LP20:16
ahoneybun2 years of people waiting20:16
Kilosnono20:17
ahoneybun-bd then?20:17
ahoneybunmm20:17
* ahoneybun stops and let's Kilos explain20:17
Kilosafter i tried originally to contact admins on lp contact this person20:17
Kilosand asked why there were so any waiting for approval20:18
Kilosno one replied but all of a sudden peeps started getting approved20:18
Kilosbut this channel was dead with no topic even20:18
Kilosbeen blacklisted or something20:19
Kiloshggdh helped getting it going again20:19
mhall119ok, so what's needed to be done?20:19
Kilosthere wer 2 nicks here but no answers fro anyone20:19
Kilosi just need the mailing list admins given to the two guys that admin here as well and the d=same for -bd please20:20
Kilossorry for typos20:20
mhall119ok, IS can do that, just file an RT and copy the loco-council on it so they can approve20:21
Kilosbut now nathan wants proof that i first mailed the old admins and tried with them to get things sorted20:21
mhall119I don't have access to change mailman myself20:21
Kilosi dont have that kind of proof20:21
mhall119how did you try to contact the old admins?20:22
Kiloslp contact this person20:22
mhall119ah, I see, that's why you don't have proof :)20:22
Kilosi hunted for the admins there and mailed from there20:22
mhall119do you remember when you did that?20:23
Kilosthe proof is in the logs. the channel was dead and is now alive and active20:23
Kilosabout march april20:23
mhall119and do you remember (roughly) what you said in the email?20:23
Kiloshmm...20:24
Kilossomething about me trying to help repair broken locos or something20:24
mhall119if you can tell Nathan and the LC roughly what you said and when it was sent, that should be enough to tell them if a reasonable attempt was made20:25
Kilosi tried to ping him today but our timezones are too far apart20:25
mhall119it wouldn't hurt to send a second message the same way, letting them know they you're like to add others to admin the mailing list20:26
Kilosyou mean the old admins?20:26
mhall119and then if they don't respond after a few days, you can take the request to IS20:26
mhall119yes20:26
Kilosok ill do that tomorrow20:26
mhall119unless your previous message already said you wanted to add other admins20:27
Kilosno it didnt i was hoping to befriend them and help rebuild20:27
mhall119but if it only said you wanted to revive the loco team, they may have seen it and just not thought you needed a reply20:27
Kilosis that the way to run a loco?20:28
mhall119no, but getting IS involved is an extraordinary measure, so it needs extraordinary efforts before taking that step20:30
Kilosoh20:31
mhall119think of it this way, if it was your loco team and you missed an email, or meants to respond but never had the time, you wouldn't want someone else taking ownership away from you20:32
mhall119so, give them one more opportunity to show that they are still involved, and if they still don't respond then at least you made a reasonable attempt20:32
mhall119that's what Nathan is after too, he wants to make sure that these changes don't get made simply because of miscommunication20:33
Kilosill do that gladly, but i leave for australia in 7 days and dont know how much time ill have for next three months20:33
mhall119if you send it today, and don't get a response by Friday, then I think you can proceed with getting IS involved20:34
Kilosi still think if the old admins had any interest then the locos wouldnt have died20:34
mhall119keeping locos alive is a lot of work, just ask ahoneybun :)20:34
KilosIS has already handed over irc admin rights20:34
mhall119I had interest in ubuntu-us-fl, and it died anyway until ahoneybun came along20:35
ahoneybunthe channel?20:35
ahoneybunsure let me do all the work, then you cook BBQ for the release party20:35
Kilosyes the irc channels20:35
ahoneybunXD20:35
Kilos;bd and ;pk20:35
Kilossorry20:36
Kilos-bd and -pk20:36
ahoneybunit is a bit of work20:37
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