[00:12] hey when trying to point a domain to a nameserver of my server. how can i find out what my nameserver is and where to point it to? [00:12] /o [00:12] whoops [00:26] macskay, there is no way to do that [00:26] you have to know what it is to find it out [00:26] patdk-lap: So I basically ask support. [00:26] of whoever is running your nameservers [00:27] Yeah alright, I'll do that. Thanls [00:45] what would be the proper way of syncing files between servers? I'm working on setting up a "HA" webserver [00:48] the MySQL database is simple, I have two servers in a Master > Slave replication setup [00:54] sikun: try a mariadb galera cluster [00:57] heh, a mysql HA is NOT simple at all :) [00:57] patdk-lap: mariadb galera looks rather neat [00:58] yes, it has large drawbacks, but it does solve a lot of issues [00:58] patdk-lap: and with a couple of haproxy machines in front with pacemaker, it should do well [00:59] RoyK, I was actually just reading on MariaDB [01:00] wondering how many servers in total I'll need to have it fully HA [01:00] sikun: development of mysql has ceased a lot since Oracle took over [01:00] sikun: four [01:00] sikun: two mariadb servers, two haproxy servers [01:01] hmm? there have been lots of development on mysql 5.7 [01:01] I'll just need to get an additional server then [01:01] sikun: you may be able to just use two with some black magick [01:01] sikun: just use VMs [01:01] I will once I get the virtualization environment running [01:02] sikun: we have around 300 servers at work - less than 10% of those are physical if you don't count the vm hosts [01:02] same, at work our VMware cluster has 200 or so VMs [01:02] but god it is so freaking slow [01:02] such poor design when it was configured [01:03] as a personal preference I use Hyper-V [01:04] * RoyK slaps sikun with an old, Swedish herring [01:04] lol [01:05] I know, I'm an outcast at work for being a Hyper-V supporter, but I've had no issues with my prior setup, it performed fantastic. [01:05] I always had funky tcp connection issues with hyper-v [01:05] tcp session would establish, but data wouldn't flow [01:05] which version though [01:05] 2k12R2? [01:05] 2008 [01:05] yep [01:05] so hyper-v went out, and esxi came in [01:06] EVERY single person that dislikes Hyper-V says they had issues on 2k8 [01:06] I guess it's a wee difference between having a few VMs on hyper-v compared to 200 VMs on vmware [01:06] so did I but it has become so much better [01:06] I have 7 esxi hosts, with 800+ vm's on them [01:06] they run great [01:07] sikun: storage and memory is usually the bottlenecks [01:07] s/\/are [01:07] that part where virt-viewer keeps taking focus from everywhere when new output appears on the screen... how do I make it stop being so antisocial? [01:07] I've been up to 40 VMs on a single Hyper-V host [01:07] lamont, what do you mean focus? [01:07] and still every VM performed amazingly [01:07] last I knew, you couldn't change focus on terminal [01:08] I mean that the window that I'm trying to type in keeps losing focus to the console window in virt-viewer [01:08] sikun: did they do anything useful? what sort of storage? [01:08] lamont, what are you talking about windows? [01:08] there are no windows [01:08] patdk-lap: one terminal window, one virt-viewer window, all of them under unity [01:08] unity? [01:08] RoyK, web servers, database servers, offsite backup VMs, a whole bunch of random crap [01:08] there is no unity in ubuntu-server [01:09] RoyK, the storage was a mix of SSD/SAS [01:09] patdk-lap: nm [01:10] sikun: we're getting a new SAN this year, budget ~$500k, perhaps a bit more - hope it has tiered storage - using equallogic now and it sucks rather badly [01:10] ha, we're TRYING to get approval for a new SAN [01:10] we're down to 1.8TB free space [01:11] ouch [01:11] also equallogic and yes, they do suck [01:11] we'll probably need half a peta or thereabouts [01:11] perhaps a bit less [01:11] and we only have a budget of $50k [01:12] you won't even get a 100TiB shelf from dell/supermicro for that price [01:12] oh, i know [01:12] we have two 100TiB (net storage) shelves that are supposed to stripe data across [01:12] but then - when one of them shows 100% utilisation and the other 60% you know something is wrong somewhere [01:13] and of course there's no logs [01:13] except those encrypted ones you can mail to Dell [01:13] I found three 36TB SANs for $2500 [01:14] well NAS storage not SAN [01:14] I went to Limerick on this how-to-understand-storage thing (about Compellent) with Dell and asked what it would take to get access to those logs and was told 'nay - won't happen' [01:14] EMC Isilon IQ336000X [01:14] yeah, you said so [01:15] hopefully you can use 'standard' drives with that too [01:15] that is, those without the EMC firmware [01:15] yeah, hopefully [01:15] last I checked, EMC didn't make drives [01:15] lol.. gotta love equals with that pain in the ass bs firmware crap [01:16] 1TB 7.2K 3.5" SATA Hard Drives [01:16] looks like standard drives [01:18] we got a new EQL shelf in house - cost a small fortune - checked the drive type and it was the exact same as http://paste.debian.net/791038/ [01:19] only diff between the EQL thing and the zfs-based thing I made was that it cost a lot more (that is, it's got double controllers, but then, failover on EQL rather sucks anyway) [01:19] hmm.. these nodes have both infiniband and 10GBe [01:19] er.. 10GbE [01:20] we don't use infiniband - yet - but we have 10Gbps all over [01:20] that's something we're starting to implement [01:21] we have two separate connections to uninett.no (university network) both on 10G [04:53] whats the quickest way to share a directory on my 16.04 LTS server so that I can write to it from my windows 10 machine [04:53] ?? === tomtom52 is now known as crazyhorse18 [06:56] * jmpp greets! [06:57] I'm getting the following for a mysql package afer running apt-show-version -u un Ubuntu 14 [06:57] mysql-server:amd64/trusty *manually* upgradeable from 5.6.30-1ubuntu14.04 to 5.6.32-1ubuntu14.04 [06:57] emphasis on manually from apt itself, not me [06:58] and no matter what I do, apt-get install with --upgrade-only, --reinstall, or even apt-mark auto on that package and all its dependencies (which are also marked the same)... [06:58] I just cannot remove that marker and upgrade the package [06:58] all my upgrade attempts pretend as if the installed version is the latest, which it clearly isn't [06:58] any tips on how I can knock some sense into apt-get? thanks in advance! === Thorn__ is now known as Thorn === hateball_ is now known as hateball === hateball is now known as Guest62070 === Deliants is now known as Deliant === hateball_ is now known as hateball === hateball is now known as Guest69163 === hateball_ is now known as hateball [09:33] How can I get Apache2 SSL server to accept non ssl. As of now I'm getting a 400 Bad Request error. So all I want is for apache to let me use http and https at the same time. [09:54] Anyone? [10:04] i've noticed a weird thing with an lxc container on 16.04. inside the container 'free -m' reports 350mb used, while lxc-info reports "memory use" as 25gb. for other containers the numbers match, and the host is clearly not using >25gb. what could cause this? === _degorenko|afk is now known as degorenko [10:27] "A start job is running for raise network interfaces (2 minutes of 5 mins 1 sec)" i am getting this error on 16.04.1 [11:29] Hi Ubuntu server i have a software raid is it possible to revert this so it is no longer in a raid? [11:34] Danawar: do you mean split it up into separate disks? [11:35] We want to move a server into virtual environment and i have been told P2V is not possible with the software raid so i was wondering if it would be possible to dump the raid onto one harddrive and then P2V it. [11:37] Danawar: the problem is more than that - the p2v shite from vmware doesn't support lvm either [11:38] Danawar: how many drives in what sort of raid? [11:39] Danawar: often I find it easier to just setup a new vm, configure it and rsync the data over [11:39] Is there a way i can find that out as i have not been told! [11:40] just try to p2v another machine with lvm on the root [11:43] Danawar: didn't work last I tried [12:53] Any of you guys do 2 factor authentication stuff for SSH and/or Apache? Seems like tons of solutions out there so trying to see which one makes the most sense [12:54] I've got SSH Key + Local passwd auth going now. But that's as far as I've got. [12:54] what sort of thing are you looking for [12:55] people don't seem to bother with 2fa/mfa on ssh as the hassle outweighs the usability [12:55] Basically trying to make PCI compliance happy. Which means "something you have" and "something you know" [12:55] what PCI standard [12:55] ikonia: I totally agree. [12:55] I've always passed PCI without 2fa on ssh [12:55] But it's a required thing I have to do [12:56] kpettit: are you using LDAP ? [12:56] key with password doesn't count apparently with SSH. [12:56] no. This is mainly for cloud web servers. [12:57] interesting, I've hit government secret PCI and government confidential PCI (in a public cloud) without 2fa on the SSH session [12:57] as long as you have audit points it's never been flagged [12:57] some of the PCI stuff is stupid. [12:57] it is - but most of it is negotiable if you can show a replacement control or process or an impact to functionality [12:58] I've got SSH locked hard. Adding 2 factor on it increases complexity and really doesn't protect much. Espically for only a few users. [12:58] eg: auditing and/or HBAC normally makes ssh access a breeze to comply [12:58] HBAC? [12:59] From what I understand on PCI, there is a ASV (Approved Scanning Vendor) and they basically go through the PCI stuff and say if your good or not. And I keep being told what i have on ssh isn't good enough. I think my ghetoo solution of using both Key and local passwd password works good though. Complies with the sonmething you have and something you know thing [12:59] But not sure the way to go with Apache. [13:00] HBAC (host based accounting) [13:01] Ah. I'm getting up to speed on all the terms and stuff with PCI. [13:02] Some of it is great I think, and some of it is pretty useless. guess we take the good with the bad [13:02] Any ideas with apache? [13:11] if i do not get linux drivers for wifi card and if i use ndiswrapper do i get same result of hardware or feature/performace is degraded ? [13:18] samba35, your ISP connection is probably still slower than any wifi speed you get, so in practice it's irrelevant, as long as you are happy with it. [13:18] also impossible to know =) you are using a foreign blob, thus there is no baseline. [13:20] i am using kodi and want to use dlna server for hd movie or even normal movie also stuck after some time [13:28] hello jamespage beisner, keystone 2:9.0.2-0ubuntu2~cloud0 is ready to promote to mitaka-updates [13:29] coreycb, looking now [13:30] coreycb, done [13:32] jamespage, thanks [13:44] jamespage, beisner, aodh 2.0.2-0ubuntu1~cloud0, ceilometer 1:6.1.3-0ubuntu1~cloud0, and openstack-trove 1:5.1.0-0ubuntu1~cloud0 are ready to promote to mitaka-updates [13:45] coreycb, on it === JanC is now known as Guest58470 === JanC_ is now known as JanC [14:19] coreycb, done [14:19] coreycb, am I ok to push out the qemu security regression as well? [14:20] coreycb, oh its not the regression [14:20] * jamespage looks again [14:28] i have an nfs server, configured and in active use, yet i don't see port 2049 listed in lsof -nPi. is that weird? or is there just something i don [14:28] *i don't understand? [14:28] jamespage, looks like qemu needs to be promoted to mitaka-proposed and tested [14:29] coreycb, yeah just promoted the followup fix for the regression [14:29] jamespage, thanks [14:29] lets hold qemu from updates for now and do in one hiut [14:29] additionally, when writing a file via nfs, i can see the file actively growing in the filesystem, but don't see the file listed in the output of lsof either. [14:29] how can i learn why this is? [14:55] Hi, I have a question. I am running apache2 on ubuntu 16. If I do apt-get update && apt-get upgrade will it update apache2 to the latest version? [14:58] penguiner: the latest version in the repos. You can do apt-get update and then apt-cache policy apache2 to see the version you have and any candidate versions. [15:00] Thanks Pici. [15:00] I assume this means I have the latest installed? [15:01] Installed: 2.4.18-2ubuntu3.1 [15:01] Candidate: 2.4.18-2ubuntu3.1 [16:02] penguiner: yes, that is the latest available (per your last apt update) -- rmadison indicates the same for 16.04 [16:03] Thanks nacc! [16:04] penguiner: np === Guest25180 is now known as med_ === med_ is now known as medberry === medberry is now known as med_ [17:09] hey, I'm running ubuntu 16.04 and just recently with LAMP package installed during original installation, if I try to apt-get upgrade, I get a dpkg error with mysql-server, is anyone else having this issue? [17:10] ubuntu server* [17:16] dr4c4n: please pastebin the output from that [17:16] !pastebin | dr4c4n [17:17] dr4c4n: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. === InfoTest1 is now known as InfoTest [17:24] RoyK: the output from what? [17:26] RoyK: I didn't try to copy anything multiline, I just wrote that question above, and forgot to include ubuntu server so I put ubuntu server * [17:26] dr4c4n: - I get a dpkg error with mysql-server, is anyone else having this issue? [17:27] dr4c4n: for anyone to be able to help you, we or they need to see what sort of error message you got [17:27] RoyK: okay perfect. will do now. === sarnold_ is now known as sarnold [17:32] RoyK: I will redo installation and same setup options: just so you know I've done the regular 16.04 ubuntu server installation with ssh and LAMP [17:32] I just finished 4 servers with LAMP stacks and ssh, no issues [17:33] just try to do an apt-get install -f [17:33] it should give you sufficient information [17:34] when I tried that on the old vm, it said dpkg lock (which means in use because I had to ctrl-z) to stop the installation as it was stuck [17:34] fg [17:35] then stop dpkg in a better way [17:35] ^^ [17:35] or just let the lock finish [17:36] well this way I will reproduce the exact error message I was getting to start with, as I was trying several methods of uninstalling / reinstalling mysql, and they were all not working.. [17:37] Ussat: it won't finish if he suspended the job with ctrl+z [17:37] ah yea, if he suspended it [17:38] dr4c4n: killall -9 dpkg apt-get # perhaps [17:39] RoyK: just finished installation, running from scratch, apt-get update, then apt-get upgrade <-- this is where it has failed once on me today, and will send pastebin in moment. [17:49] RoyK:http://paste.ubuntu.com/23082612/ [17:50] dr4c4n_: perhaps try mariadb instead - mysql is rather out in the cold now [17:50] is it ? I just instaled mysql on 4 servers.... [17:50] maria is a drop in replacement isnt it ? [17:51] Ussat: I had no problems installing it as of yesterday [17:51] Ussat, RoyK: I have been putting mysql on multiple vms, then when I tried to create a new vm today with the LAMP on, this is the error I'm getting [17:52] I can't really try a different database as my requirements include mysql [17:55] I mean, this is right after a fresh installation on a new vm, and I've performed it twice [17:55] same issue [17:56] should I post something to ubuntu forums? [17:57] Is there something wrong with my installation media? [17:59] dr4c4n_: all of the stuff I'm seeing by searching that error happens during an upgrade, not a fresh install.. have you tried doing this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/760724/16-04-upgrade-broke-mysql-server (first answer) [18:01] jge: that's what I mean, I freshly install the server, and run apt-get update, then apt-get upgrade, and this is what happens. [18:02] an apt-get upgrade shouldn't break the server [18:03] and trying what they suggested on that link, just makes mysql hang during reinstall at a different point [18:10] dr4c4n_: what version of ubuntu server are you on? also, what's the full command you're using to install [18:12] jge: I'm running 16.04, I'm installing the SSH and LAMP packages during the installation [18:12] jge: all I'm trying to do is an apt-get update followed by apt-get upgrade [18:14] jge: I'm running it in a vm if that makes a difference? [18:15] I literally just finished what yure doing on a new VM with no issues......what is the exact command youre useing [18:17] dr4c4n_: I would just remove mysql-server, perform the upgrade then install it again (sudo apt-get remove mysq-server&&sudo apt-get autoremove) [18:17] or just use mariadb it seems [18:18] which seems to be a drop in replacement === degorenko is now known as _degorenko|afk [18:19] so is mariadb going to be included in LAMP from now on? [18:20] I dont know what you mean, included, I installed apache, php, mariadb [18:20] Ussat: well during the installation, there are default package suites that you can install during installation [18:21] sure, I never go that route, I always install minimum, then choose what I need [18:21] Ussat: ah, ok [18:22] I have custom build scripts I use for different server purposes [18:22] jge: another error [18:23] mind sharing the error.. [18:24] aneother reason I dont use the "pre-packaged" defaults [18:26] I would remove everything the "LAMP" pakage installed and install them individual packages manually [18:26] jge: sorry I have to type it all out [18:26] http://paste.ubuntu.com/23082727/ [18:27] dr4c4n_: you should show the output of: apt-cache policy; apt-get -f install; apt-get update [18:27] mysql_upgrade: Got error: 1045: Access denied for user 'debian-sys-maint'@'localhost' (using password: YES) while connecting to the MySQL server [18:27] THAT is your issue [18:27] not pre-packaged, ubuntu allows you to select packages manually during install just saves you a few steps after install [18:28] dr4c4n_: ignore what i asked for, the issue is clear. [18:29] so what I'm learning from this is to install the packages individually instead of the prepackaged versions [18:29] dr4c4n_: why are you upgrading, I suggested to remove mysql then do a system upgrade and reinstalling after. [18:29] dr4c4n_, no, thats not the issue at all in this case [18:29] see what I pasted above [18:30] Ussat: I realize that the mysql isn't allowing a connection which means the server probably isn't stopping which is why it's not uninstalling [18:30] or upgrading, which, is why its erroring out [18:31] jge: I usually run apt-get update and then apt-get upgrade right after I finish installation [18:31] ... [18:34] if you stop the database, I bet the upgrade goes fine [18:36] Ussat: trying that now === iberezovskiy is now known as iberezovskiy|off [18:47] hmm...wonder how that went [19:04] Ussat: [19:04] still working on it [19:14] I can't purge mysql-server [19:15] because it still gives me the same error about access denied for user debian-sys-maint [19:15] fudge it [19:15] new install [19:20] Ussat: I'm also downloading the latest install media === skeezix-hf is now known as Ofir === Ofir is now known as skeezix-hf [20:02] join #hipchat === keithzg_ is now known as keithzg [22:44] I have a remote server that was set up with the partitions mounted to the wrong drive. I need to rsync the root directory with a different partition. The only ways I know are in recovery mode or from livecd, but How can I do this on a remote server? [23:51] Postfix is running with backwards-compatible default settings, but my host is not processing incoming emails - I fixed the outbound problem, just set the hostname properly: seems it overrides mailname === Deliants is now known as Deliant