| mapps | morning | 06:03 |
|---|---|---|
| dwatkins | allo | 07:13 |
| davmor2 | Morning all | 08:04 |
| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 08:12 |
| bigcalm | Good morning peeps :) | 09:26 |
| BigRedS | Good Morning! | 09:26 |
| diddledan | mernign | 09:36 |
| Seeker` | good moaning | 09:37 |
| JamesTait | Good morning all! Happy Tuesday, and happy Internauts Day! 😃 | 09:41 |
| BigRedS | Internaut? You're making that up | 09:41 |
| SuperEngineer | Sounds much like "web designer" - an incorrectness because there was only one "web designer". | 09:46 |
| SuperEngineer | "I'm a web designer"... No! "I'm a web site builder"... yes [maybe] ;-) | 09:47 |
| popey | bigcalm: car gone yet? | 09:49 |
| BigRedS | yeah, just wikipediad it and in France it just means anybody who uses the Internet | 09:49 |
| SuperEngineer | ...and *real* web builders are arachnoid anyway - I'll get my coat now. ;-) | 09:49 |
| bigcalm | popey: no :( But I do have a 64gb micro sd card in my opx now.. | 09:50 |
| diddledan | I'm a web developer. not a designer, nor a site builder, though I do create sites | 09:52 |
| diddledan | nomenclature is difficult | 09:52 |
| diddledan | as is naming things | 09:52 |
| bigcalm | popey: running everything from the micro sd card - is this something one sets up after installing CM13? | 09:53 |
| SuperEngineer | diddledan: the first part makes sense [you're a spider],the last part makes it read "I design homes for Wimpey". | 09:56 |
| SuperEngineer | I assume neither are true :-D | 09:56 |
| diddledan | lmao | 09:56 |
| diddledan | I thought wimpy were a fast-food restaurant chain :-p | 09:56 |
| SuperEngineer | lol | 09:57 |
| SuperEngineer | [though some would say Wimpy was a major part of Ubuntu Mate] | 09:59 |
| bigcalm | I enjoyed their bacon rolls when I went to summer school to learn about C (many many many moons ago) | 09:59 |
| popey | bigcalm: yes | 10:08 |
| popey | bigcalm: however, it seems I am using both storages now | 10:08 |
| bigcalm | popey: interesting | 10:08 |
| bigcalm | I wonder if I should decrypt my phone before moving over to CM | 10:08 |
| bigcalm | Not sure it should make any difference though | 10:09 |
| popey | i think in some update I have applied, it now sees both storage types | 10:19 |
| popey | unless it's undone what I did to move everythin to sd | 10:20 |
| davmor2 | JamesTait: gotcha covered a song by the internet made popular by the internet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmY8mG4_3j4 | 10:21 |
| davmor2 | JamesTait: it was about as internety as I could get with one song ;) | 10:24 |
| diddledan | I would listen to it but there's a bar steward outside with a mower or something | 10:26 |
| davmor2 | JamesTait: although I nearly hit you with this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jofNR_WkoCE but then realised you had it bookmarked already ;) along with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ which you have to admit is made popular by the internauts :) | 10:26 |
| davmor2 | JamesTait: equally the last one applies to the internauts too :D | 10:27 |
| davmor2 | JamesTait: just had a brainwave https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k07cflKCl-Y&list=PL6E1AC915A0204BC0 and I know you and diddledan will listen to that :) | 10:29 |
| diddledan | ooh yeah, now we're talking | 10:30 |
| diddledan | why is it that we know how terrible that movie is at depicting computers and such yet we love it so much? | 10:32 |
| diddledan | remember, folks, risc is the future | 10:34 |
| diddledan | yeah, risc is good | 10:35 |
| davmor2 | diddledan: more worryingly we know how accurate antitrust is and we don't like it as much as hackers | 10:35 |
| diddledan | davmor2: I guess it's something to do with binary, we're either alive or dead | 10:37 |
| davmor2 | diddledan: even though antitrust is also a little far fetched too :D | 10:37 |
| bigcalm | popey: CM13 is nightly only that I can see. How often do you update? I got a bit tired of doing it so frequently on my SGS5 | 10:37 |
| davmor2 | diddledan: nothing at all to do with a young Angelina Jolie of course though right | 10:38 |
| diddledan | https://youtu.be/r3cM5P8tUhc?t=26 | 10:38 |
| diddledan | oh no, not at all. not even in a red leather one-piece | 10:39 |
| * diddledan zones-out | 10:39 | |
| davmor2 | diddledan: admittedly he does make a really good bad guy :) | 10:41 |
| diddledan | yup | 10:41 |
| diddledan | he does the inspirational speeches well, too | 10:41 |
| davmor2 | popey: look even old films are on about convergence ;) | 10:43 |
| diddledan | oh dear. just got a message from someone at my old job letting me know he's found a bug in a site I helped develop, where the site is spending ~65% of time on a single line of code I wrote | 11:19 |
| diddledan | I failed hard by the sounds | 11:20 |
| davmor2 | diddledan: I bet the made changes that caused it ;) | 11:31 |
| diddledan | lol | 11:34 |
| diddledan | http://www.thefuntheory.com/ | 12:04 |
| bigcalm | popey: did you have any trouble getting your OPX to show up with adb devices? | 12:19 |
| diddledan | http://geography.oii.ox.ac.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/InternetTube_v2-01.png | 12:23 |
| popey | bigcalm: not once I enabled it and used a good cable | 12:24 |
| diddledan | that's a good map | 12:25 |
| diddledan | shows a lot of south america only has one link out | 12:25 |
| bigcalm | popey: okay, ta. I shall dig some more | 12:26 |
| diddledan | auso aus only has two links | 12:26 |
| diddledan | same with jpn (surprisingly) | 12:26 |
| diddledan | aus could do with a link to south america methinks | 12:27 |
| diddledan | that would reduce the latin america's dependency on a single link and improve australia's own redundancy | 12:28 |
| * diddledan single-handedly solves the internets | 12:29 | |
| bigcalm | popey: the phone to show up with the help of http://bernaerts.dyndns.org/android/339-android-oneplustwo-oneplusx-enable-adb-mtp-detection-ubuntu-trusty | 12:32 |
| foobarry | in spite of CM13 setting saying "wifi always on while sleep", seems not to work :( | 12:35 |
| === zmoylan-pi is now known as moggers57 | ||
| popey | bigcalm: all done? | 13:15 |
| bigcalm | Well, it took my entire lunch break, but it's now booting into CM (at least I have the CM logo and expanding circle of the boot screen) | 13:16 |
| bigcalm | Now preparing apps 22 of 113 | 13:16 |
| bigcalm | Successful I think | 13:16 |
| popey | neato | 13:18 |
| popey | my android phone has a notification light. i have no idea what the various flashing lights mean | 13:19 |
| moggers57 | it blinks the light to let you know it wants more charging :-) | 13:21 |
| diddledan | blinkin' flashy! | 13:21 |
| diddledan | shed some light on the matter to illuminate the reader | 13:22 |
| diddledan | I'm full of bright ideas like that | 13:23 |
| moggers57 | we've all got our blinking, flashing and beeping lights... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1WemnsB98o | 13:23 |
| diddledan | good movie | 13:24 |
| bigcalm | popey: moving everything over to the sd card was easy enough. Thanks for letting me know about it | 13:26 |
| popey | np | 13:27 |
| davmor2 | moggers57: telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl | 13:32 |
| moggers57 | i'm aware of it's existince... :-) | 13:32 |
| davmor2 | moggers57: just more blinkenlights | 13:34 |
| SuperEngineer | moggers57 is obviously aware on all channels! :-D | 13:34 |
| SuperEngineer | [ moggers57 alone will understand that ] | 13:36 |
| TwistedLucidity | I am aware of moggers57 awareness | 13:38 |
| SuperEngineer | lol | 13:38 |
| moggers57 | i'm aware that you're aware that i'm aware | 13:38 |
| * SuperEngineer worries some humans have become cross channel aware... contacts home planet and considers action | 13:40 | |
| moggers57 | once brexit kicks in cross channel awareness will dip... :-P | 13:41 |
| SuperEngineer | roflmfa | 13:42 |
| SuperEngineer | roflmfo even | 13:42 |
| SuperEngineer | roflmfao even even | 13:42 |
| SuperEngineer | [sorry, recieving instructions from home planet & telling them what they can do with it is distracting] | 13:43 |
| Azelphur | This new AMD Zen stuff looks interesting... been thinking of upgrading my desktop, might hold off | 13:54 |
| Azelphur | 8 core, 16 threads... >:) | 13:54 |
| ali1234 | why bother with AMD at this point? | 13:54 |
| ali1234 | just buy intel | 13:54 |
| Azelphur | ali1234: they claim to be beating out Intel | 13:55 |
| ali1234 | yeah right | 13:55 |
| Azelphur | ali1234: they've shown a benchmark result too | 13:55 |
| ali1234 | so? | 13:55 |
| ali1234 | benchmarks are terrible | 13:55 |
| popey | lolMD | 13:55 |
| ali1234 | prediction: it will beat an i7 in one specific benchmark, use 600W, and in the real world it will be bottlenecked by terrible memory bus speeds | 13:56 |
| ali1234 | you know, like every AMD CPU ever | 13:56 |
| Azelphur | ali1234: hope not, I like what AMD is doing in the open source world, really want an excuse to give AMD money | 13:57 |
| ali1234 | lol | 13:57 |
| ali1234 | you like that they keep stringing everyone along with promises that they are never going to deliver? | 13:58 |
| Azelphur | ali1234: lol, there is that possibility :) | 13:58 |
| ali1234 | they've been doing it now for 10 years | 13:58 |
| Azelphur | ali1234: that said I did find an excuse to buy an AMD 390, it's a tad cheaper than the 1060 and performs about 93% of that in various game benchmarks, but it has twice the RAM and supports crossfire | 13:58 |
| ali1234 | >_< | 13:59 |
| ali1234 | crossfire is dumb | 13:59 |
| ali1234 | should have just bought a 1080 | 13:59 |
| Azelphur | lol | 13:59 |
| Azelphur | ali1234: yea, a 1080 would have literally cost more than the entire budget for the build | 13:59 |
| Azelphur | not my machine :) | 13:59 |
| ali1234 | two 390 costs the same as a 780Ti | 14:01 |
| ali1234 | guess which one is better | 14:01 |
| ali1234 | for that matter a 980Ti is even cheaper | 14:02 |
| moggers57 | ah the joy of not been a pc gamer anymore... :-D | 14:02 |
| popey | peasant | 14:03 |
| moggers57 | i'd like a nice pheasent about now... | 14:03 |
| popey | nom nom | 14:03 |
| Azelphur | ali1234: well the point was one 390 now and maybe another one later | 14:04 |
| Azelphur | when they are not worth much | 14:04 |
| diddledan | apparently I'm in Scotland. and missing: http://www.falkirkherald.co.uk/our-region/falkirk-district/stenhousemuir/stenhousemuir-man-missing-1-4209568 | 14:07 |
| diddledan | I hope he's found ok | 14:07 |
| Azelphur | diddledan: wat | 14:08 |
| DJones | diddledan: From the links on the same page you've been found http://www.falkirkherald.co.uk/our-region/falkirk-district/stenhousemuir/missing-man-found-safe-and-sound-1-4210030 | 14:09 |
| diddledan | yey, go me | 14:09 |
| moggers57 | still not a patch on the japanese tourist who was listed as missing and turned up helping search for herself... http://travel.aol.co.uk/2012/08/28/tourist-joins-search-and-rescue-operation-to-find-herself-Iceland/ | 14:10 |
| SuperEngineer | On the subject of "the lost": http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2016/08/pokemon-go-sheds-more-than-10m-users/ | 14:24 |
| SuperEngineer | [perhaps they're all in hospital from head on lamp post injuries?] | 14:25 |
| moggers57 | they're waiting for the release of a phone that will last all day unaided playing that game? | 14:32 |
| SuperEngineer | :-) | 14:38 |
| nucc1 | is it possible to make linux ignore tcp keepalive probes? | 15:32 |
| nucc1 | i went as far as to make a small C program where i explicitly set the SO_KEEPALIVE option to 0 on the socket, yet, it still acks when it gets a keepalive packet | 15:33 |
| nucc1 | gah. my question answered. keepalives are not a special thing. | 15:53 |
| daftykins | Deus Ex just unlocked on Steam \o/ | 16:07 |
| bigcalm | That was a very long video | 16:14 |
| bigcalm | I don't need to play it now | 16:15 |
| daftykins | i thought it was cooling down, yet i find it's 27 deg C here today >_< | 16:16 |
| daftykins | ah har that guy uses bigv | 16:19 |
| * daftykins used to | 16:19 | |
| bigcalm | Digital Ocean made Bytemark terribly expensive | 16:20 |
| bigcalm | !rat | 16:20 |
| daftykins | yeah i moved | 16:20 |
| lubotu3 | rat is The Real Ale Train. A yearly Ubuntu UK loco event to celebrate friends, trains and ale. Saturday 10th September 2016, Hampshire, UK: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-uk/3350-real-ale-train-2016/ | 16:21 |
| bigcalm | It's a shame as they are nice people at Bytemark | 16:21 |
| daftykins | yeah, support seemed quite good whilst i was there | 16:22 |
| ali1234 | is there an ntp suite in debian that doesn't depend on perl? | 16:28 |
| diddledan | ali1234: openntpd doesn't according to the package meta: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.17), init-system-helpers (>= 1.18~), adduser, netbase | 19:17 |
| ali1234 | yeah, found it... it doesn't seem to work though | 19:17 |
| ali1234 | it doesn't set the clock unless i run it manually.. even though it gets started as a service | 19:18 |
| diddledan | it'll not set the clock directly - it skews the clock to maintain the time over long periods | 19:18 |
| ali1234 | that's a problem because the system clock will be set to 1970 at boot | 19:19 |
| ali1234 | the regular ntp package handles this okay, but it is 32MB | 19:19 |
| diddledan | it maintains a drift file which records how much the system clock changes over time when compared to upstream | 19:19 |
| ali1234 | openntpd is like 10kB or something | 19:19 |
| diddledan | you want ntpdate to set the clock on boot | 19:19 |
| ali1234 | openntpd can do it but only if you supply the right options to it | 19:20 |
| ali1234 | i'm not sure if it handles if up/down either | 19:20 |
| ali1234 | also the network wont be up at boot | 19:20 |
| ali1234 | i guess i'll just have to deal with the 32MB of dependencies | 19:21 |
| ali1234 | also i need to figure out some way of creating a wpa_supplicant.conf during boot | 19:22 |
| daftykins | this one of those automated devices to send a client use-cases? | 19:24 |
| diddledan | why is twitter full of people reposting "omgzor huge bsod!1!" messages? | 19:24 |
| ali1234 | yes | 19:24 |
| daftykins | and it has to be wireless? :( | 19:24 |
| ali1234 | yes | 19:24 |
| ali1234 | also it runs from a ramdisk | 19:25 |
| ali1234 | no changes to the root filesystem = they cant break it | 19:25 |
| ali1234 | i don't want to bake their wifi password in though | 19:25 |
| daftykins | what type of device is it? | 19:26 |
| ali1234 | raspberry pi 3 | 19:26 |
| ali1234 | the application is a "magic mirror" | 19:26 |
| daftykins | ah yeah, my one running picoreplayer uses a similar setup to run the music streamer | 19:26 |
| daftykins | even has a little web admin where config changes write out then ask to reboot to enact them, as it too runs from RAM | 19:27 |
| ali1234 | yeah i can save the config onto the fat partition | 19:27 |
| ali1234 | but i need something to restore it at the next boot | 19:27 |
| ali1234 | i guess i need to write a systemd unit | 19:31 |
| daftykins | weird nick | 21:18 |
| moggers57 | might have loads of recipies for leg of lamb... | 21:18 |
| daftykins | :D | 21:19 |
| daftykins | my my, a nick change! | 21:19 |
| moggers57 | to annoy someone in another channel... :-) | 21:19 |
| daftykins | haha, the nicest of motivations | 21:19 |
| daftykins | oh my, still 24 deg C outside at 10pm | 21:20 |
| moggers57 | i could annoy for ireland at the olympics... and take home platinum... :-D | 21:20 |
| moggers57 | not as good as my brother mind, but enough for online trolls and fun and games... | 21:21 |
| daftykins | remind me to call on your services when #kodi gets another one! | 21:21 |
| moggers57 | the best rule is to use the words of the troll against them. it's funnier that way | 21:22 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | hi | 21:56 |
| daftykins | lo | 21:56 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | I am watching the kind of thing I woudn't normally watch on TV | 21:57 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | but this thing is partly relevent to me so | 21:57 |
| daftykins | said thing must be enjoyable! | 21:58 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | daftykins, it was ok | 22:45 |
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