[06:03] morning [07:13] allo [08:04] Morning all [08:12] morning boys and girls. [09:26] Good morning peeps :) [09:26] Good Morning! [09:36] mernign [09:37] good moaning [09:41] Good morning all! Happy Tuesday, and happy Internauts Day! 😃 [09:41] Internaut? You're making that up [09:46] Sounds much like "web designer" - an incorrectness because there was only one "web designer". [09:47] "I'm a web designer"... No! "I'm a web site builder"... yes [maybe] ;-) [09:49] bigcalm: car gone yet? [09:49] yeah, just wikipediad it and in France it just means anybody who uses the Internet [09:49] ...and *real* web builders are arachnoid anyway - I'll get my coat now. ;-) [09:50] popey: no :( But I do have a 64gb micro sd card in my opx now.. [09:52] I'm a web developer. not a designer, nor a site builder, though I do create sites [09:52] nomenclature is difficult [09:52] as is naming things [09:53] popey: running everything from the micro sd card - is this something one sets up after installing CM13? [09:56] diddledan: the first part makes sense [you're a spider],the last part makes it read "I design homes for Wimpey". [09:56] I assume neither are true :-D [09:56] lmao [09:56] I thought wimpy were a fast-food restaurant chain :-p [09:57] lol [09:59] [though some would say Wimpy was a major part of Ubuntu Mate] [09:59] I enjoyed their bacon rolls when I went to summer school to learn about C (many many many moons ago) [10:08] bigcalm: yes [10:08] bigcalm: however, it seems I am using both storages now [10:08] popey: interesting [10:08] I wonder if I should decrypt my phone before moving over to CM [10:09] Not sure it should make any difference though [10:19] i think in some update I have applied, it now sees both storage types [10:20] unless it's undone what I did to move everythin to sd [10:21] JamesTait: gotcha covered a song by the internet made popular by the internet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmY8mG4_3j4 [10:24] JamesTait: it was about as internety as I could get with one song ;) [10:26] I would listen to it but there's a bar steward outside with a mower or something [10:26] JamesTait: although I nearly hit you with this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jofNR_WkoCE but then realised you had it bookmarked already ;) along with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ which you have to admit is made popular by the internauts :) [10:27] JamesTait: equally the last one applies to the internauts too :D [10:29] JamesTait: just had a brainwave https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k07cflKCl-Y&list=PL6E1AC915A0204BC0 and I know you and diddledan will listen to that :) [10:30] ooh yeah, now we're talking [10:32] why is it that we know how terrible that movie is at depicting computers and such yet we love it so much? [10:34] remember, folks, risc is the future [10:35] yeah, risc is good [10:35] diddledan: more worryingly we know how accurate antitrust is and we don't like it as much as hackers [10:37] davmor2: I guess it's something to do with binary, we're either alive or dead [10:37] diddledan: even though antitrust is also a little far fetched too :D [10:37] popey: CM13 is nightly only that I can see. How often do you update? I got a bit tired of doing it so frequently on my SGS5 [10:38] diddledan: nothing at all to do with a young Angelina Jolie of course though right [10:38] https://youtu.be/r3cM5P8tUhc?t=26 [10:39] oh no, not at all. not even in a red leather one-piece [10:39] * diddledan zones-out [10:41] diddledan: admittedly he does make a really good bad guy :) [10:41] yup [10:41] he does the inspirational speeches well, too [10:43] popey: look even old films are on about convergence ;) [11:19] oh dear. just got a message from someone at my old job letting me know he's found a bug in a site I helped develop, where the site is spending ~65% of time on a single line of code I wrote [11:20] I failed hard by the sounds [11:31] diddledan: I bet the made changes that caused it ;) [11:34] lol [12:04] http://www.thefuntheory.com/ [12:19] popey: did you have any trouble getting your OPX to show up with adb devices? [12:23] http://geography.oii.ox.ac.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/InternetTube_v2-01.png [12:24] bigcalm: not once I enabled it and used a good cable [12:25] that's a good map [12:25] shows a lot of south america only has one link out [12:26] popey: okay, ta. I shall dig some more [12:26] auso aus only has two links [12:26] same with jpn (surprisingly) [12:27] aus could do with a link to south america methinks [12:28] that would reduce the latin america's dependency on a single link and improve australia's own redundancy [12:29] * diddledan single-handedly solves the internets [12:32] popey: the phone to show up with the help of http://bernaerts.dyndns.org/android/339-android-oneplustwo-oneplusx-enable-adb-mtp-detection-ubuntu-trusty [12:35] in spite of CM13 setting saying "wifi always on while sleep", seems not to work :( === zmoylan-pi is now known as moggers57 [13:15] bigcalm: all done? [13:16] Well, it took my entire lunch break, but it's now booting into CM (at least I have the CM logo and expanding circle of the boot screen) [13:16] Now preparing apps 22 of 113 [13:16] Successful I think [13:18] neato [13:19] my android phone has a notification light. i have no idea what the various flashing lights mean [13:21] it blinks the light to let you know it wants more charging :-) [13:21] blinkin' flashy! [13:22] shed some light on the matter to illuminate the reader [13:23] I'm full of bright ideas like that [13:23] we've all got our blinking, flashing and beeping lights... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1WemnsB98o [13:24] good movie [13:26] popey: moving everything over to the sd card was easy enough. Thanks for letting me know about it [13:27] np [13:32] moggers57: telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl [13:32] i'm aware of it's existince... :-) [13:34] moggers57: just more blinkenlights [13:34] moggers57 is obviously aware on all channels! :-D [13:36] [ moggers57 alone will understand that ] [13:38] I am aware of moggers57 awareness [13:38] lol [13:38] i'm aware that you're aware that i'm aware [13:40] * SuperEngineer worries some humans have become cross channel aware... contacts home planet and considers action [13:41] once brexit kicks in cross channel awareness will dip... :-P [13:42] roflmfa [13:42] roflmfo even [13:42] roflmfao even even [13:43] [sorry, recieving instructions from home planet & telling them what they can do with it is distracting] [13:54] This new AMD Zen stuff looks interesting... been thinking of upgrading my desktop, might hold off [13:54] 8 core, 16 threads... >:) [13:54] why bother with AMD at this point? [13:54] just buy intel [13:55] ali1234: they claim to be beating out Intel [13:55] yeah right [13:55] ali1234: they've shown a benchmark result too [13:55] so? [13:55] benchmarks are terrible [13:55] lolMD [13:56] prediction: it will beat an i7 in one specific benchmark, use 600W, and in the real world it will be bottlenecked by terrible memory bus speeds [13:56] you know, like every AMD CPU ever [13:57] ali1234: hope not, I like what AMD is doing in the open source world, really want an excuse to give AMD money [13:57] lol [13:58] you like that they keep stringing everyone along with promises that they are never going to deliver? [13:58] ali1234: lol, there is that possibility :) [13:58] they've been doing it now for 10 years [13:58] ali1234: that said I did find an excuse to buy an AMD 390, it's a tad cheaper than the 1060 and performs about 93% of that in various game benchmarks, but it has twice the RAM and supports crossfire [13:59] >_< [13:59] crossfire is dumb [13:59] should have just bought a 1080 [13:59] lol [13:59] ali1234: yea, a 1080 would have literally cost more than the entire budget for the build [13:59] not my machine :) [14:01] two 390 costs the same as a 780Ti [14:01] guess which one is better [14:02] for that matter a 980Ti is even cheaper [14:02] ah the joy of not been a pc gamer anymore... :-D [14:03] peasant [14:03] i'd like a nice pheasent about now... [14:03] nom nom [14:04] ali1234: well the point was one 390 now and maybe another one later [14:04] when they are not worth much [14:07] apparently I'm in Scotland. and missing: http://www.falkirkherald.co.uk/our-region/falkirk-district/stenhousemuir/stenhousemuir-man-missing-1-4209568 [14:07] I hope he's found ok [14:08] diddledan: wat [14:09] diddledan: From the links on the same page you've been found http://www.falkirkherald.co.uk/our-region/falkirk-district/stenhousemuir/missing-man-found-safe-and-sound-1-4210030 [14:09] yey, go me [14:10] still not a patch on the japanese tourist who was listed as missing and turned up helping search for herself... http://travel.aol.co.uk/2012/08/28/tourist-joins-search-and-rescue-operation-to-find-herself-Iceland/ [14:24] On the subject of "the lost": http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2016/08/pokemon-go-sheds-more-than-10m-users/ [14:25] [perhaps they're all in hospital from head on lamp post injuries?] [14:32] they're waiting for the release of a phone that will last all day unaided playing that game? [14:38] :-) [15:32] is it possible to make linux ignore tcp keepalive probes? [15:33] i went as far as to make a small C program where i explicitly set the SO_KEEPALIVE option to 0 on the socket, yet, it still acks when it gets a keepalive packet [15:53] gah. my question answered. keepalives are not a special thing. [16:07] Deus Ex just unlocked on Steam \o/ [16:14] That was a very long video [16:15] I don't need to play it now [16:16] i thought it was cooling down, yet i find it's 27 deg C here today >_< [16:19] ah har that guy uses bigv [16:19] * daftykins used to [16:20] Digital Ocean made Bytemark terribly expensive [16:20] !rat [16:20] yeah i moved [16:21] rat is The Real Ale Train. A yearly Ubuntu UK loco event to celebrate friends, trains and ale. Saturday 10th September 2016, Hampshire, UK: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-uk/3350-real-ale-train-2016/ [16:21] It's a shame as they are nice people at Bytemark [16:22] yeah, support seemed quite good whilst i was there [16:28] is there an ntp suite in debian that doesn't depend on perl? [19:17] ali1234: openntpd doesn't according to the package meta: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.17), init-system-helpers (>= 1.18~), adduser, netbase [19:17] yeah, found it... it doesn't seem to work though [19:18] it doesn't set the clock unless i run it manually.. even though it gets started as a service [19:18] it'll not set the clock directly - it skews the clock to maintain the time over long periods [19:19] that's a problem because the system clock will be set to 1970 at boot [19:19] the regular ntp package handles this okay, but it is 32MB [19:19] it maintains a drift file which records how much the system clock changes over time when compared to upstream [19:19] openntpd is like 10kB or something [19:19] you want ntpdate to set the clock on boot [19:20] openntpd can do it but only if you supply the right options to it [19:20] i'm not sure if it handles if up/down either [19:20] also the network wont be up at boot [19:21] i guess i'll just have to deal with the 32MB of dependencies [19:22] also i need to figure out some way of creating a wpa_supplicant.conf during boot [19:24] this one of those automated devices to send a client use-cases? [19:24] why is twitter full of people reposting "omgzor huge bsod!1!" messages? [19:24] yes [19:24] and it has to be wireless? :( [19:24] yes [19:25] also it runs from a ramdisk [19:25] no changes to the root filesystem = they cant break it [19:25] i don't want to bake their wifi password in though [19:26] what type of device is it? [19:26] raspberry pi 3 [19:26] the application is a "magic mirror" [19:26] ah yeah, my one running picoreplayer uses a similar setup to run the music streamer [19:27] even has a little web admin where config changes write out then ask to reboot to enact them, as it too runs from RAM [19:27] yeah i can save the config onto the fat partition [19:27] but i need something to restore it at the next boot [19:31] i guess i need to write a systemd unit [21:18] weird nick [21:18] might have loads of recipies for leg of lamb... [21:19] :D [21:19] my my, a nick change! [21:19] to annoy someone in another channel... :-) [21:19] haha, the nicest of motivations [21:20] oh my, still 24 deg C outside at 10pm [21:20] i could annoy for ireland at the olympics... and take home platinum... :-D [21:21] not as good as my brother mind, but enough for online trolls and fun and games... [21:21] remind me to call on your services when #kodi gets another one! [21:22] the best rule is to use the words of the troll against them. it's funnier that way [21:56] hi [21:56] lo [21:57] I am watching the kind of thing I woudn't normally watch on TV [21:57] but this thing is partly relevent to me so [21:58] said thing must be enjoyable! [22:45] daftykins, it was ok