[00:03] <nevelli> hi, I'm looking for some help with a particular issue related to nvidia drivers, but I don't know exactly where to direct my questions to
[00:05] <nevelli> (I think) I have located the section of the logs which provides the errors, but again, I don't know how to go about addressing the issue
[00:06] <blackbird1> Hi, I need help with ses and regex
[00:06] <blackbird1> sed*
[00:09] <polmik> hi
[00:09] <nacc> !ask | blackbird1, although you might get a faster response in a more appropriate channel, e.g. ##linux
[00:10] <darkmessiah> !patience
[00:12] <doolboot> hello 0erHeks i am back
[00:13] <doolboot> i would like to ask you guys, which partition scheme should i use for my windows10 installation alongside ubuntu?
[00:13] <doolboot> MBR for BIOS or UEF-CSM, MBR for UEFI, or GPT for UEFI
[00:14] <doolboot> i am installing windows 10 on a separate drive from ubuntu, but which partition scheme do i chose?
[00:14] <Pikia> Usually, you would want to install windows 10 first
[00:14] <Pikia> then ubuntu
[00:15] <doolboot> i know but i do not want to reinstall ubuntu :(
[00:15] <Pikia> Then you'll have to deal with Windows 10 deleting GRUB
[00:15] <doolboot> i have a separate hard drive just for windows though, and a separate one for ubuntu
[00:15] <Pikia> and then you won't even be able to boot into your Ubuntu
[00:15] <Pikia> Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't see that
[00:15] <doolboot> even if it is on separate hard drives will it delete GRUB?
[00:15] <Pikia> In that case, I would assume UEFI
[00:16] <Pikia> Just disconnect the drive with ubuntu on it when installing windows 10
[00:16] <doolboot> okay, and would i use MBR or GPT partition scheme? for UEFI
[00:16] <doolboot> i have 2 options here when burning the windows ISO to a uSB
[00:17] <Pikia> Just download RUFUS
[00:17] <Pikia> Google it and use it to burn the ISO to a USB
[00:17] <Pikia> Its much more streamlined and easier
[00:18] <doolboot> yes i have rufus, its just that it gives me different options for the partition scheme and im not sure if i should do MBR or GPT
[00:18] <doolboot> i think i will stick with GPT since its newer
[00:18] <Pikia> I just left mine on defualt.
[00:19] <Pikia> MBR iirc
[00:19] <doolboot> alright yea
[00:19] <doolboot> thanks
[00:20] <nairwolf> Hi, I've discovered the command 'tabs' but I don't understand what it does. Is it possible that this command does nothing with some terminal ?
[00:20] <doolboot> and does it matter whether i configure the ISO to FAT32 or NTFS? will it install as NTFS anyways once i boot from USB?
[00:21] <lurkashflake> where is my external cd/dvd reader/burner being detected at?
[00:22] <Pikia> doolboot: youre going to want NTFS for windows
[00:22] <doolboot> ok
[00:23] <lurkashflake> brasero doesn't detect my external cd/dvd burner
[00:23] <lurkashflake> I am on a live Ubuntu 14 cd
[00:25] <Pikia> does ubuntu detect it lurkashflake ?
[00:25] <lurkashflake> I don't think so
[00:25] <lurkashflake> lsblk doesn't show it
[00:26] <Pikia> Stupid question, but is it connected?
[00:26] <razeal113> having an issue with partitions after an install and need advice, posted my question here http://askubuntu.com/questions/815581/help-understanding-partitions-on-ubuntu
[00:26] <Pikia> My drive sometimes turns off by itself :/
[00:26] <lurkashflake> Yes it is
[00:27] <Pikia> razeal113: I'm having a hard time understanding your question
[00:27] <Pikia> Do you want to know what all the parttions means?
[00:28] <Pikia> lurkashflake: I'm probably not the best person to ask about this XD But could it be a driver issue??
[00:28] <Pikia> It seems really unlikely though.
[00:28] <lurkashflake> I'll plug in another drive instead :)
[00:28] <Pikia> razeal113: sda3 is your swap partition, think of it as extra ram in case you run out of ram.
[00:29] <Pikia> A lot of people argue about wheater or not you should have more or less, but in the end its up to you and how you use your machine
[00:29] <razeal113> Pikia: I appear to be using only the sda3 memory though and don't seem to have access to sda2 memory
[00:29] <Pikia> You don't have access to it?
[00:31] <Pikia> razeal113: I might be wrong on this, but it might be beacause your sda2 is formatted in the wrong partition type
[00:32] <doolboot> thanks for help guys, i think i will use win10 iso with GPT UEFI and NTFS formatting. i will come back here if i come into trouble installing tomorrow
[00:32] <razeal113> Pikia:  what partition type should it be in?  And if it is wrong, can i change it ?
[00:34] <Pikia> I liked, ext4 is okay.
[00:35] <Pikia> I'm not sure why youre not able to acess it though, I'm sorry
[00:35] <Pikia> http://askubuntu.com/questions/19796/filesystem-types-for-partitions
[00:35] <Pikia> This is a good link to read up on patition types
[00:36] <nevelli> hi, I'm looking for some help with a particular issue related to nvidia drivers, (I think) I have located the section of the logs which provides the errors, but I don't know how to go about addressing the issue or where to post the log exerpts for more help
[00:37] <Pikia> nevelli: Try here :D But it seems a lot of people aren't really active atm./
[00:37] <Pikia> I can try to help... but my knowledge in linux is pretty limited
[00:38] <nevelli> ok, so basically, i have graphics issues where the system locks up, the mouse is still moving, sound is working, networking functions, but otherwise the system is unresponsive
[00:39] <nevelli> also most notably... the system doesn't come back from sleep
[00:39] <Pikia> For the sleep issue, did you set up a swap partition?
[00:39] <Pikia> and how big is it?
[00:39] <nevelli> swap partition is 64gb i believe
[00:39] <nevelli> one sec
[00:40] <nevelli> excuse me
[00:40] <nevelli> 16gb
[00:40] <nevelli> i have 64gb of ram though
[00:40] <Pikia> That should be more than enough, considering you have 64gb of ram.
[00:40] <Pikia> I've run into problems with sleep before because my HDD actually shut down due to bios stuffies fucking with it
[00:41] <Pikia> That MAY be an issue
[00:41] <nevelli> so here is the syslog
[00:41] <nevelli> Aug 22 17:04:26 U16-5820K kernel: [40230.909058] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: fifo: PBDMA0: 00200000 [METHOD] ch 5 [023f971000 compiz[5454]] subc 0 mthd 00fc data 0000000a
[00:41] <nevelli> i get a spam of these
[00:41] <nevelli> followed by...
[00:42] <nevelli> Aug 22 17:04:26 U16-5820K kernel: [40230.909072] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: gr: DATA_ERROR 0000000c [INVALID_BITFIELD] ch 5 [023f971000 compiz[5454]] subc 0 class a097 mthd 0104 data 80000006
[00:42] <nevelli> Aug 22 17:04:26 U16-5820K kernel: [40230.909117] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: fifo: gr engine fault on channel 5, recovering...
[00:42] <dancingd3mon> I've a general question, I want to install windows using vmware workstation
[00:42] <nevelli> Aug 22 17:04:26 U16-5820K kernel: [40230.909128] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: gr: ILLEGAL_MTHD ch 5 [023f971000 compiz[5454]] subc 0 class a097 mthd 0128 data 00000002
[00:43] <dancingd3mon> it says a message that i need 2 gb swap memory, may i know what is that?
[00:43] <nevelli> it means you need to allocate 2GB to a partition for the system to use
[00:43] <dancingd3mon> but it already took 60 gb
[00:43] <dancingd3mon> and i have 5 tb left
[00:44] <nevelli> for swap?
[00:44] <dancingd3mon> I gave it 4 gb of ram
[00:44] <dancingd3mon> idk what swap is tbh
[00:44] <dancingd3mon> what is it needed for ?
[00:44] <nevelli> the system uses it in case you run out of ram
[00:44] <Pikia> Think of it as RAM
[00:44] <nevelli> ^
[00:45] <Pikia> nevelli: im not sure whats going on tbh. Im sorry
[00:45] <Tin_man> slow ram
[00:45] <nevelli> it is a seperate partition on the hdd exclusively reserved for the system to swap data to and from like ram...
[00:45] <dancingd3mon> okay, so how to check my swap memory ? I guess I can't add more data to swap without formatting my whole server, correct?
[00:46] <nevelli> Pikia: where sohuld I go to for help with this?
[00:46] <nevelli> yes you can
[00:46] <razeal113> Pikia: when running a VM i get the error that I only have 3.6Gig of ram available.  This is what led me to think that its an issue with the partitions.  Its as if it only sees the swap memory.
[00:46] <dancingd3mon> may i know how nevelli ?
[00:46] <nevelli> you can use gparted... and craeat a spap partition at the end of the volume
[00:46] <nevelli> create a swap **
[00:47] <Pikia> Is windows the host or the guest os?
[00:47] <Pikia> nevelli: tbh... I'm not sure. You can try ##linux and see if theyre willing to help
[00:47] <dancingd3mon> guest os
[00:47] <dancingd3mon> Idk how to do this nevelli :( but thanks anyway
[00:47] <dancingd3mon> any guide to follow?
[00:47] <Pikia> dancingd3mon: Try google.
[00:48] <Pikia> dancingd3mon: I'm not sure why its asking for swap memory for windows tbh. I didin't think windows suported swap but I might be wrong
[00:48] <nevelli> dancingd3mon: google -> gparted create swap partition at the end of the volume
[00:49] <Tin_man> yes windows does have a swap, not called swap though.
[00:49] <Tin_man> Pagefile in windows
[00:49] <dancingd3mon> okay so all i did was install vmware workstation on ubuntu and then I edit the configuration to use 4 gb of ram and left the rest, I chose the iso and then that message showed up. the ram was 1 gb and I raised it to 4
[00:50] <dancingd3mon> maybe thats why the swap message showed up?
[00:50] <Tin_man> yes, i believe so, but it's been a long time since i've run a VM
[00:50] <Tin_man> how much total ram do you have?
[00:50] <dancingd3mon> 16 gb
[00:50] <nevelli> dancingd3mon: i didn't realize you were talking about a VM
[00:51] <dancingd3mon> yup it's a VM :) all good
[00:51] <Tin_man> 4 should be fine, just continue, see what happens
[00:51] <dancingd3mon> thanks, It has been showing this finalizing your settings since forever
[00:52] <dancingd3mon> waiting for it to finish and see what will happen
[00:52] <Tin_man> i run normal windows 10 with 2gb physical memory..
[00:52] <dancingd3mon> okay so i have lxde-core installed, will I need always to vnc to my server and view my VM that way ? it's like a window inside a window.
[00:53] <dancingd3mon> http://prntscr.com/c95q5z
[00:53] <Tin_man> don't know, like I said, been over 2 years since I've played around with a VM
[00:53] <dancingd3mon> all good Tin_man
[00:53] <dancingd3mon> many thanks guys
[00:53] <Tin_man> np
[00:54] <Sweepyoface> Whats wrong with my apt?
[00:54] <Sweepyoface> when I apt update it gets stuck at 0% [Working]
[00:55] <FinalX> Sweepyoface: can you resolve hostnames? i had it a few times and it was that my /etc/resolv.conf was messed up
[00:55] <Sweepyoface> as a matter of fact I cant..
[00:55] <Sweepyoface> FinalX, how did you fix it?
[00:57] <FinalX> by setting a nameserver in /etc/resolvconf/resolvconf.d/base and restarting resolvconf
[00:57] <FinalX> eh, /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base
[00:57] <FinalX> but i have to go now :) sorry
[00:57] <Sweepyoface> ah, nevermind
[00:57] <Sweepyoface> security group issue
[00:57] <Sweepyoface> thanks
[00:57] <backbox> gr33n
[00:59] <NSGFK> Guys.
[00:59] <NSGFK> Who here has OpenVZ experience with Ubuntu
[00:59] <NSGFK> and selling Ubuntu OpenVZ instances
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[01:03] <jser> hi, has anybody using kali linux ?
[01:04] <dax> !kali
[01:05] <dax> huuygt77: no spam in #ubuntu-* channels, thanks
[01:05] <jser> thans . haha
[01:05] <tripelb> where do I ask this question? Is it posaible to get into another computer when you are both attqched to the same wifi network?
[01:06] <lordcirth> tripelb, you mean remote login?
[01:06] <huuygt77> !mint
[01:06] <Kev__> I downloaded gnome ppp and saved to a USB, how do I get ubuntu ro install it from the flash drive ?
[01:07] <Pikia> Kev__: set your bios to boot to usb
[01:07] <lordcirth> Kev__, a .deb package?
[01:07] <lordcirth> tripelb, Use SSH or VNC
[01:07] <Kev__> idk
[01:07] <Kev__> I set my windows 7 laptop to boot ubuntu from a dvd
[01:07] <Kev__> I am trying it out
[01:08] <philspain> hi, I have a problem with permissions to var/www folder. when I try to access with cd var/www I get "file/dir not exists" but I can create files in there with nano. I'm using ubuntu 16.04 on vps and ls -al /var/www states drwxrwsr-x  2 ghost www-data 4096 Aug 23 00:51 html
[01:08] <Kev__> want to be able to configure my usb720 modem to connect to verizon wireless
[01:08] <lordcirth> philspain, perhaps you are forgetting the leading slash?  /var/www
[01:08] <philspain> omg#
[01:08] <lordcirth> Kev__, and you have the ppp package on a USB?
[01:08] <philspain> thanks!
[01:09] <Kev__> yes
[01:09] <Kev__> ubuntu shows it and its folder contents
[01:09] <tripelb> lordcirth: re use ssh or vnc. i want to share my neighbors wifi but he is afraid.
[01:09] <lordcirth> tripelb, what are you trying to do exactly?
[01:09] <Kev__> but I can't get it to install in my system
[01:09] <lordcirth> Kev__, you should be able to rightclick on the package, I think, and install?
[01:10] <Kev__> tried that, no go
[01:10] <lordcirth> Kev__, define no go.  What error?
[01:10] <Kev__> could it be because I have not installed ubuntu onto my harddrive ?
[01:10] <lordcirth> Kev__, I forget if you can install packages in the LiveCD or not
[01:11] <Kev__> this is a whole new world to me, I can tell ubuntu is going to kill brain cells
[01:11] <lordcirth> Kev__, ah, apparently you can't.
[01:11] <tripelb> lordcirth: VNC is a graphical desk sharing system. How does that apply to me?
[01:11] <Kev__> but I am getting sick of windows crap
[01:12] <lordcirth> tripelb, well, seeing as you haven't been very clear about what you want, I'm guessing here
[01:12] <elliot-59> just install linux on ur pc
[01:12] <lordcirth> Kev__, Do you have 4GB+ RAM?  You should consider trying Ubuntu in Virtualbox instead, and/or dual booting.
[01:12] <elliot-59> or dualboot if youre not ready for a full transition
[01:13] <Kev__> I have 4 GB of RAM
[01:13] <Kev__> wanted to see how I would like it before committing to install
[01:13] <Kev__> 300 GB harddrive
[01:13] <Kev__> so I have lots of space and memory
[01:13] <lordcirth> Kev__, so you can try Ubuntu in a virtual machine inside Windows then.  You will be able to install packages, it'll just be a bit slow
[01:14] <elliot-59> lubuntu should run a bit faster too
[01:14] <tripelb> lordcirth: i want to find a way to make my neighbor safe from the "perhaps" of me spying on his computer. i thought the defense would be in the firewall on his router. i was planning on buying a wifi extender.
[01:14] <Kev__> I was hoping to try it online but can't get my modem working with it
[01:15] <lordcirth> tripelb, oh, you want to set up wifi such that you can use it without access to his network?
[01:15] <tripelb> lordcirth: he gets wifi. i dont want to pay for it separately when we could have it together.
[01:16] <lordcirth> Well, that would imply he trusts you to set up his network, since whoever sets that up controls it
[01:16] <Kev__> I was hoping to get comfortable with the language and features before installing
[01:16] <tripelb> lordcirth: that is correct.
[01:16] <lordcirth> Kev__, Virtualbox sounds like the best route to me.,
[01:16] <galaxiax> algum br ai?
[01:17] <lordcirth> Kev__, https://www.virtualbox.org/  Just install it on Windows, make a VM, and give it the Ubuntu ISO.
[01:17] <Kev__> Thanks, I'm thinking along the same line
[01:17] <Pikia> Kev__: What exavtly are you tired of with windows?
[01:17] <galaxiax> alguem do brasil?
[01:17] <Kev__> I'm tired of things that just quit working for no reason
[01:17] <lordcirth> tripelb, I don't think there's a way for you to make his network secure against you unless he trusts you to begin with
[01:18] <lordcirth> tripelb, unless perhaps you suggest solutions to him and he implements them.
[01:18] <Kev__> I tried to get 4 small updates, 24.2 MB for a week, refused to download them
[01:18] <elliot-59> i want to program a script that mutes my system when is shutting down and unmutes it after it boots, how would i go about doing that?
[01:18] <tripelb> lordcirth: i didnt know that. i am disappointed.
[01:18] <tripelb> and thanks.
[01:18] <Kev__> I ended up having to manually download and install them
[01:18] <lordcirth> elliot-59, do you perhaps just want to disable the shutdown and bootup sounds?
[01:19] <budder> hey guys, looking to install ubuntu for the first time. the installation guide recommends 1gb of memory and 10gb of hard drive. I understand the hard disk part, but why the RAM? Does this mean 1gb of RAM will ONLY be working while running ubuntu and now I will only have 7 for when using windows?
[01:19] <elliot-59> yeah, plus this annoying beep my laptop makes after its plugges/unplugged, cant seem to find a way to get rid of it
[01:20] <budder> (if i had a 8gb of RAM of course)
[01:20] <Pikia> budder: Are you trying to dual boot or do a fresh install of ubuntu?
[01:20] <lordcirth> budder, whatever OS is running always owns all the RAM.
[01:20] <lordcirth> RAM is short-term memory, the stuff in it is wiped when you reboot
[01:20] <budder> Pikia: i want to dual boot, but i have never installed ubuntu before so idk if that counts as a fresh install?
[01:20] <tripelb> question: I have 14.04 with /home in a separate partition. i want to install 16.04 in its own partition and I want to use the same /home. Is there any way I can make the mistake or erasing the current-existing /home partition?
[01:20] <elliot-59> budder: what you read only means that ubuntu needs 1g of ram minimum to run correctly
[01:20] <budder> lordcirth: then why allocate memory? this is confusing me
[01:21] <lordcirth> budder, you don't need to "allocate" RAM.  Your computer just has to have at least 1GB or it won't work.
[01:21] <Pikia> It seems to be youre trying to install ubuntu inside a VM
[01:21] <galaxiax> alguem do brasil?
[01:21] <lordcirth> elliot-59, as for the beep, you could try blacklisting pcspkr module
[01:22] <budder> lordcirth: okay i see. but you do need to allocate hard disk space right? i believe my confusion was coming from thinking that you also need to allocate RAM the way you do hard disk space. does this seem correct to you?
[01:22] <budder> Pikia: what is a VM?
[01:22] <budder> Pikia: i want to install alongside windows
[01:22] <lordcirth> He's not using a VM, ignore that
[01:22] <Pikia> You run two OS at the same time.
[01:23] <Kev__> I will try the VM thing and dual boot, thank you for the help, I'm sure I will be back with more questions
[01:23] <Pikia> Ah, okay. Yeah im stupod./
[01:23] <lordcirth> budder, Hard disk space is persistent, you do need to allocate that, yes.
[01:24] <kyles_> Hello. On my laptop, my mouse does not move after some boots. Does anybody know what could cause this?
[01:24] <budder> lordcirth: then what exactly is a swap? I thought that that was RAM you had to set aside for ubuntu? i'm quite confused...
[01:24] <elliot-59> vm is a virtual machine, kind of like an emulator that runs inside windows and can load linux or other os's, dual booting means you install both os's on your hard drive and log in to the one you want every time you boot up
[01:24] <elliot-59> if youre just trying it out is easier to run it on a vm
[01:24] <lordcirth> budder, swap is space on the hard drive which Linux can use if you run out of RAM.
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[01:25] <budder> lordcirth: so is that something you need to manually set? and if my PC has 8gbs of RAM, that is not something I need to worry about, correct?
[01:25] <elliot-59> swap is for older computer with small ram so that linux can use hard drive space as ram, nowadays i dont think you need swap though with like 8 gb of ram
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[01:26] <budder> lordcirth: thanks for your help
[01:26] <milf> !spam | tsia
[01:26] <lordcirth> budder, swap is another partition on your hard drive, normally, beside the Linux partition ( and Windows if you have it)
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[01:27] <budder> lordcirth: so i should not worry about swap, right?
[01:27] <elliot-59> dude stop spamming
[01:27] <budder> since i have 8gb already
[01:27] <elliot-59> budder: youre fine
[01:27] <lordcirth> budder, up to you.  If you have lots of hard drive space, you can.
[01:27] <milf> srry
[01:28] <budder> elliot-59: okay thanks. so would  you suggest allocating 10gb of hard disk space? or +/-?
[01:28] <lordcirth> budder, 20 to 40GB
[01:28] <elliot-59> ^^ what he said
[01:29] <lordcirth> 10 is only fine if you don't intend on actually installing anything :P
[01:29] <budder> lordcirth: possible to adjust later?
[01:29] <lininois> budder: ?
[01:29] <budder> lininois: yes?
[01:30] <budder> wtf??
[01:30] <lordcirth> budder, it's a little difficult.  Best to give it extra
[01:30] <budder> sry. got a pm from a child
[01:30] <ruu7> !spam | budder
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[01:31] <lininois> budder: its you
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[01:33] <lordcirth> evalde, there are some online tutorials, one sec
[01:33] <evalde> sorry?
[01:34] <lordcirth> evalde, ignore him, he's spamming
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[01:34] <lordcirth> milf, that is completely offtopic here, even if you weren't spamming it
[01:35] <elliot-59> evalde: everything you mentioned, try to learn how to do everything you would normally do with the terminal, shell scripting, just mess around, break stuff, fix stuff..... at leas thats how i am learning
[01:35] <budder> lordcirth: elliot-59 is it possible to adjust the partition later?
[01:35] <lordcirth> evalde, http://overthewire.org/wargames/bandit/  Bandit is a fun terminal - based game
[01:35] <lordcirth> budder, it is but it's a bit of a hassle so I'd suggest just giving it lots
[01:35] <elliot-59> budder: on a vm?
[01:35] <milf> evalde look at http://djangoshell.net23.net
[01:35] <budder> elliot-59: no i want to dual boot alongside windows
[01:36] <elliot-59> you have low space? just give it like 40 or something just in case, i mean you can readjust partition sizes but like lordcirth mentioned, its a bit of a hassle
[01:36] <tgm4883> milf: nobody wants your free shell, it's off topic. Please stop
[01:38] <milf> what other active channel is ther
[01:38] <milf> *there
[01:39] <Kev__> I went to download virtualbox, the only one highlighted to download is for lixus hosts, will that work on my windows system ?
[01:42] <lordcirth> Kev__, you want the one for Windows hosts
[01:42] <lordcirth> Kev__, click on the "amd64" bit to the right of it
[01:42] <Kev__> thanks, I finally noticed the amd 64 highlighted
[01:43] <Kev__> I am on my other laptop, so will save it to USB then transfer it to the one I want to put ubuntu on
[01:43] <Kev__> so many moving parts to keep track of !!!!
[02:02] <Allahu> Hi guys
[02:03] <lordcirth> Allahu, hi
[02:03] <Allahu> well i make custom iso of ubuntu using uck, but vmlinuz.efi no go. error /lib/modules/3.5.0-23-generic/module.dep: No such file or directory..
[02:04] <Allahu> my current kernel is 3.5.0-54-generic
[02:04] <Allahu> vmlinuz works but vmlinuz.efi wont go
[02:05] <Allahu> stop initramfs busybox
[02:07] <Allahu> i can extract vmlinuz.efi?
[02:08] <Kev__> installed virtualbox on the other laptop, and named it ubuntu, what do I do next to install the ubuntu DVD there ?
[02:08] <lordcirth> Allahu, sorry there aren't as many people here who are familiar with spinning isos
[02:08] <lordcirth> Kev__, hit Start, and it will prompt for a CD or ISO
[02:08] <bob_>  hi all. I've just updated my main work desktop from 14.10 to 16.something LTS. After the update process, the computer rebooted.
[02:08] <bob_> Not that it's rebooted, the monitors are blank
[02:09] <bob_> There seems to be no signal to them
[02:09] <Allahu> bob_: clean install?
[02:09] <bob_> However, the machine must be working. I'm able to ssh in
[02:09] <lordcirth> He said "the update process"
[02:09] <bob_> Allahu: no. not clean install
[02:09] <lordcirth> bob_, what graphics card and driver are you using?
[02:09] <Kev__> I really appreciate all the help, it's tough on this 61 year old brain
[02:10] <Allahu> dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg-lts-xenial
[02:10] <th0r> Kev__, it
[02:10] <th0r> Kev__, OOPS...it's easier at 69 <smile.
[02:10] <Kev__> LOL
[02:10] <darkmessiah511> Hello. Tell me a good text editor to you with Pyton on Ubuntu 16.04
[02:11] <darkmessiah511> use*
[02:11] <bob_> lordcirth: I'm not sure how to tell... but now that I'm shelled in I can run commands as root. How can I discover which video card I'm using from the cli ?
[02:11] <bob_> Allahu: what would that command do?
[02:11] <lordcirth> bob_, lspci | grep VGA
[02:11] <bad> /whois $me
[02:11] <Allahu> bob_: maybe you reconfigure X works
[02:12] <th0r> darkmessiah511, is nedit still available?
[02:12] <bob_> lordcirth:VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GM206 [GeForce GTX 960] (rev a1)
[02:12] <lordcirth> bob_, very nice.  How'd you get a 860 without noticing? :P
[02:12] <lordcirth> 960*
[02:13] <Allahu> well i make custom iso of ubuntu using uck, but vmlinuz.efi no go. error /lib/modules/3.5.0-23-generic/module.dep: No such file or directory... so... my current kernel is 3.5.0-54-generic... vmlinuz work vmlinuz.efi dont
[02:13] <bob_> I don't know anything about that card. I'm only an expert on video cards for the two or three hours before I buy one.
[02:13] <bob_> I just needed a card that could run two monitors and lots of browser tabs.
[02:14] <lordcirth> bob_, " glxinfo | grep -i vendor " Do you get "NVIDIA Corporation"?
 i think is no more supported for 16.04
[02:15] <bob_> grep: warning: GREP_OPTIONS is deprecated; please use an alias or script
[02:15] <bob_> interesting
[02:16] <lordcirth> wierd
[02:16] <bob_> does grep work differently these days?
[02:16] <bob_> I did 'unalias grep', ran that command again, and got the same result
[02:16] <lordcirth> bob_, are you using a shell other than bash?
[02:16] <th0r> darkmessiah511, that's a shame, but doesn't surprise me. that is why I switched to debian, and now use raspbian for everything. just checked, it is in the repos for raspbian
[02:17] <bob_> lordcirth: oh yes! I'm using zsh
[02:17] <lordcirth> bob_, anyways, the command still works, right?
[02:17] <lordcirth> bob_, that's it then.
[02:17] <Allahu> can extract vmlinuz.efi?
[02:17] <lordcirth> bob_, fix for zsh/grep: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/31156517/how-to-get-rid-of-grep-warning-grep-options-is-deprecated-please-use-an-alia
[02:17] <darkmessiah511> Ok, I`ll try it out. Thanks alot. I'm trying to start working with python.
[02:18] <darkmessiah511> One more thing. How do I reply to a person, like you did with me? (I`m new to HexChat, Irc and even Linux)
[02:18] <LordLaravel> darkmessiah511, start to type their name and press tab
[02:19] <darkmessiah511> LordLaravel, I see, thanks.
[02:19] <lordcirth> darkmessiah511, Just make sure to check the autocomplete before hitting enter or maybe you highlight the wrong person :P
[02:19]  * akison slaps lordcirth around a bit with a large trout
[02:19] <darkmessiah511> lordcirth, Key, thank you very much.
[02:20]  * akison slaps lordcirth around a bit with a large trout
[02:20]  * lordcirth noticed the first time
[02:22] <bob_> drat. that fix doesnt work. I logged out and then shelled back in again. But with the new shell i still can't grep
[02:22] <Kev__> This kernel requires an x86-64 cpu but only detected an i686 cpu. What gives? I am running windows 7 64 bit !!
[02:23] <bob_> 'unset GREP _OPTIONS'
[02:23] <bob_> that worked
[02:23] <lordcirth> bob_, excellent
[02:23] <lordcirth> Kev__, perhaps you made the VM 32-bit
[02:23] <Kev__> that was my only choice that I saw
[02:23] <lordcirth> Kev__, select the VM from the list and go to Settings
[02:24] <lordcirth> Kev__, do you have HyperV installed?
[02:24] <bob_> lordcirth: that command you gave me before returns: Error: unable to open display
[02:24] <Kev__> don't know what that is
[02:24] <lordcirth> Kev__, Microsoft virtualization.  Can only have 1 64bit virtualization system active.
[02:25] <bob_> please don't tell me that I have to reconfigure X. This takes me back to the bad old days
[02:25] <lininois> bob_: cry
[02:25] <Kev__> in the list, it only shows 32 bit for win 7
[02:25]  * bob_ cries
[02:25] <lordcirth> lininois, go away, you're evading a ban
[02:26] <lordcirth> bob_, pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:28] <bob_> http://pastebin.com/19KwPmWJ
[02:29] <Kev__> this may be a dumb question, but if I power down the laptop and restart with the ubuntu dvd, and click install, will it give me the option to install to the VM and everything work right ?
[02:29] <lordcirth> Kev__, no, VMs only exist when the host is running
[02:30] <Kev__> so it looks like I am screwed
[02:30] <lordcirth> bob_, I don't see anything wrong.
[02:30] <lordcirth> Kev__, search for HyperV in your start menu
[02:30] <bob_> interesting
[02:31] <lordcirth> bob_, most likely it's not getting that far so that's the old log
[02:31] <bob_> hmm
[02:31] <Kev__> shows no items named hyper v
[02:31] <lordcirth> bob_, try booting with "nomodeset" parameter
[02:31] <bob_> lordcirth: how do I do that?
[02:32] <lordcirth> Kev__, Oh, look in BIOS settings to enable virtualization.  Many leave it off by default (no idea why)
[02:33] <lordcirth> bob_, boot to grub, hold shift to stop the timer.  It will tell you to press 'e', I think, to edit the boot entry.  Find the Linux kernel line and tack "nomodeset" on the end after "quiet splash"
[02:33] <Smn> hello, guys, I have a problem, I'm on ubuntu 16.04 and I installed a wifi pci card, however, I have to enable it manually enable it after each boot using modprobe
[02:33] <bob_> lordcirth: I'm not getting that far in the boot process. There's no signal to the monitors at all
[02:33] <Smn> it isn't loading at boot time for some reason
[02:34] <th0r> Smn, did you try entering the modules in /etc/modules
[02:34] <lordcirth> bob_, do you see BIOS?
[02:35] <Smn> no
[02:35] <bob_> lordcirth: sorry, one sec. I'm just booting again to see what I get
[02:35] <Kev__> Shows Intel Virtualization Technology is DISABLED
[02:35] <Kev__> is that is ?
[02:35] <Kev__> it
[02:35] <Smn> now it is there
[02:35] <ksft> I was here a few days ago because I was having trouble with my dual graphics card thing.
[02:36] <ksft> I upgraded to 16.04. Which drivers should I try first?
[02:36] <Smn> Kev__, intel has a lot of different virtualization technologies, have you checked if your cpu supports what you are specifically looking at?
[02:36] <lordcirth> Kev__, yeah, enable that if you can
[02:36] <Smn> ksft, well, I couldn't help you with gpus, but you should at least say what brand they are
[02:36] <Kev__> I would think it does if I can run a 64 bit win 7 on it
[02:37] <bob_> lordcirth: I've rebooted again. Same thing: I can shell in, but there's no signal to the monitor
[02:37] <lordcirth> bob_, do you see BIOS when booting?
[02:37] <de453> hey
[02:37] <ksft> Smn: oh, of course
[02:38] <ksft> The intergrated one is Intel, and the dedicated one is Nvidia.
[02:38] <Kev__> it will not let me enable it
[02:38] <bob_> lordcirth: I'm not sure. I was looking away. I'll try again and keep my eyes on the screen this time
[02:38] <ksft> Should I install nvidia-current? Should I install bumblebee or nvidia-prime?
[02:38] <Azy8BsKXVko> Hello. Is it safe to click "Install" when I get the HWE_EOL popup? I was kind of frightened when the packages being downloaded had "xenial" in the name, because I'd rather not have an error that requires me to reinstall *again*.
[02:39] <lordcirth> Azy8BsKXVko, what popup exactly?
[02:39] <Smn> ksft,  I really haven't kept up, and I don't own an nvidia card, but I think bumblebee is deprecated, let me do some checking
[02:39] <Azy8BsKXVko> lordcirth: the Software Updater popup.
[02:39] <bob_> lordcirth: yes, I saw the bios
[02:39] <bob_> now I'm seeing something that looks like an fsck
[02:39] <bob_> '/dev/sdb1:clean...'
[02:39] <Smn> ksft,  I'd advise you use the integrated tool that checks if any of your hardware requires privative drivers
[02:40] <lordcirth> bob_, that's good
[02:40] <lordcirth> Azy8BsKXVko, what version of ubuntu are you on?
[02:40] <Smn> and use those, generally speaking nvidia's closed source drivers are considerably better than the open source alternative
[02:40] <ksft> Smn: Which tool is that?
[02:40] <Smn> I don't know how it is called in english, but it should be something like "aditional drivers"
[02:41] <ksft> the "Additional Drivers" thing in Unity's settings thing?
[02:41] <ksft> oh, yeah, oaky
[02:41] <ksft> okay*
[02:41] <bob_> lordcirth: I saw a couple of lines that looked like the beginning of the boot process: notifications of processes starting... then the blank screen
[02:41] <lordcirth> bob_, ok
[02:41] <Azy8BsKXVko> lordcirth: 14.04, and this is the popup: http://imgur.com/a/MMBO1
[02:41] <lordcirth> bob_, this is with or without nomodeset?
[02:41] <bob_> without
[02:41] <ksft> Then how do I run programs on the dedicated graphics card?
[02:41] <bob_> like, that's just after I did 'reboot' as root from the shell
[02:42] <lordcirth> Azy8BsKXVko, go ahead.  It's just warning you that some things you have installed no longer get security updates because you're behind
[02:42] <lordcirth> bob_, ok, try with
[02:42] <Azy8BsKXVko> lordcirth: thanks.
[02:42] <Azy8BsKXVko> If my laptop blows up it's on you. (kidding) :P
[02:44] <lordcirth> Azy8BsKXVko, no, you have backups, right? :)
[02:46] <bob_> lordcirth: ?
[02:46] <Azy8BsKXVko> lordcirth: I don't have anything to back up. ;_;
[02:46] <Azy8BsKXVko> It's just annoying to reinstall.
[02:56] <ksft> I just rebooted, and I'm getting a login loop again.
[02:57] <ksft> I'm on 16.04 now.
[03:00] <cfhowlett> no shortage of solutions on google ...
[03:01] <ksft> for me?
[03:01] <cfhowlett> yep
[03:04] <lordcirth> cfhowlett, we've been few some of them already over the last few days
[03:05] <ksft> I fixed it by removing all the nvidia packages, but then I couldn't use the graphics card. I wanted to upgrade to 16.04 before spending a lot of time trying to fix it, because I was worried it might come back when I did upgrade.
[03:05] <ksft> I backed up important stuff and upgraded. It went mostly smoothly.
[03:06] <ksft> Googled it
[03:06] <ksft> `apt-get update`, `apt-get upgrade`, `apt-get dist-upgrade`, then restarting X didn't help
[03:07] <bob_> lordcirth: I think I'm getting somewhere
[03:08] <bob_> I followed an online guide. I purged the nvidia drivers. Then reinstalled them...
[03:08] <bob_> lordcirth: I'm rebooting now. I've got the ubuntu startup screen
[03:08] <bob_> lordcirth: I'm seeing the logo with the dots under it
[03:08] <ksft> I have nvidia-361, nvidia-opencl-icd-361, and nvidia-prime installed
[03:08] <lordcirth> bob_, good
[03:09] <ksft> I think it would work if I reoved them, but I want to be able to use my dedicated graphics card.
[03:10] <bob_> lordcirth: uhm, I'm still on that screen. it isn't going anywhere.
[03:10] <bob_> lordcirth: I'm still able to shell in though
[03:10] <lordcirth> bob_, hit ESC or Tab to see text
[03:11] <bob_> lordcirth: nothing. I can't see any mouse movement either.
[03:24] <anon_> NICK an0n
[03:25] <bob_> lordcirth: ok, now I've got blank monitors with a mouse. No window management. No gdm
[03:26] <lordcirth> bob_, get a tty and read Xorg.0.log
[03:30] <krobzaur> Has anyone had any luck getting the native google drive integration to work in ubuntu 16.04? I can add my google account but nothing shows up in nautilus ...
[03:33] <bob_> lordcirth: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23080260/
[03:34] <bob_> lordcirth: sorry about the delay in pasting that. I'm moving between two computers and I haven't really gotten the hang of my mac yet
[03:34] <lordcirth> bob_, I don't see anything wrong at a glance.  Try dmesg or syslog
[03:34] <lordcirth> bob_, I actually said read it, not paste it, as I will be leaving soon
[03:56] <ksft> I have an integrated Intel graphics card and a dedicated Nvidia one. When I have Nvidia drivers installed, I get a login loop. When I uninstall them, I can log in, but I can't use the Nvidia graphics card.
[03:58] <kellen> hi
[04:10] <sonicx> I'm trying to install Linux on a old  hp pavilion 6500  and having video pms  I would like to have a up to date os of Ubuntu  or something
[04:16] <brisbaneubuntu> hey there is anyone near redlands bay that could please put desktop iso onto a usb for me?
[04:18] <Bashing-om> sonicx: Lubuntu is a faster, more lightweight and energy saving variant of Ubuntu using LXDE, the Lightweight X11 Desktop Environment. It is targeted at "normal" PC and laptop users running on low-spec hardware.
[04:19] <sonicx> ok cool is there any others that I can look at just in case
[04:20] <Bashing-om> !flavors | sonicx
[04:21] <sonicx> I for got about Ubuntu MATE ok tks I maybe  back
[04:22] <CommingHome_> as of now i dont have logs for this
[04:22] <CommingHome_> but surely raise a bug
[04:24] <evalde> Is ubuntu MATE the best flavor for an older laptop?
[04:24] <Bashing-om> sonicx: :) ,, Old hardware, just try and see what works and what you like .
[04:24] <OerHeks> there is no single best.
[04:24] <EriC^^> evalde: lubuntu is more old-hardware oriented
[04:25] <EriC^^> and lower specs
[04:25] <sonicx> I was hoping for xubuntu to work but in not :( sad lol
[04:25] <sonicx> it did not *
[04:26] <evalde> Hmm. I'm just having some random glitches with ubuntu MATE. Like currently it says I have no wifi connection yet I am chatting here. There are also occasional graphical glitches and slow downs. Any ideas with what this could be? This laptop isnt that old. Dual core Centrino 2
[04:27] <evalde> Most of the graphical issues are happening with Chromium specifically, especially after the laptop goes to sleep and I start it back up again after a few hours. The window will start to glitch out.
[04:27] <evalde> The slowdowns happen when opening files or programs.
[04:27] <evalde> But they are not consistent\
[04:29] <Bashing-om> evalde: 'free -m' say you have enough ram .. and not pounding swap ( you do have a swap partition ?) ?
[04:30] <md_5-> k md_5
[04:30] <evalde> All of that language is a bit above my head. I'm very new to linux shell and linux itself, although I'm more than familiar with the windows equivalent
[04:31] <evalde> As far as ram goes, the machine has 2 GB
[04:31] <evalde> idk what free m or a pounding swap is though
[04:31] <evalde> I do not have a swap partition setup, I haven't partitioned the drive off at all yet beyond what was done in setup
[04:32] <CommingHome_> @evalde why dont you try other distro to check whether its a hardware issue or ubuntu
[04:33] <Bashing-om> evalde: Much like Windows' page file / linux uses a swap partition to move stuff out of ram. if it can not or is too small ,, sytem slows down to a crawl .
[04:33] <evalde> The only reason I don't want to try another distro immediately is because I just spent a few days getting this setup up to speed
[04:34] <CommingHome_> just give a live cd demo and check
[04:35] <evalde> I could setup a bootable USB, I'm currently on vacation so It's gonna be tough for me to get a lot of stuff done hardware wise
[04:35] <Bashing-om> evalde: The installer in wizard install mode would have made up an appropriate swap partitioin . Terminal command ' sudo fisk -lu ' to see the partitioning .
[04:35] <Ben64> fisk?
[04:35] <cfhowlett> >>> fdisk <<<
[04:35] <evalde> is ctrl alt f1 not terminal?
[04:36] <Ben64> usually brings up a console, but you'll probably just want to open something like gnome-terminal
[04:36] <Bashing-om> fdisk * / thanks Ben64
[04:36] <evalde> MATE terminal it is
[04:37] <evalde> the command isn't working
[04:37] <evalde> sudo fisk commmand not found
[04:37] <Ben64> it's fdisk
[04:38] <elias_a> :)
[04:38] <evalde> lol alright
[04:38] <evalde> shit alright let me read through all of this
[04:39] <evalde> there's a lot of info here, what am i looking for?
[04:39] <Bashing-om> !paste | evalde
[04:39] <daemon55> has anybody here have flickering problems with their battery?
[04:40] <evalde> i'm just gonna paste it in a pm if that's ok
[04:40] <Ben64> use a pastebin
[04:40] <evalde> not sure what that is
[04:40] <Ben64> like ubottu said to you, http://paste.ubuntu.com
[04:40] <BarnabasDK> pastebin.com
[04:40] <cfhowlett> daemon55, please do not waste bandwidth with "anybody"?  questions.
[04:40] <cfhowlett> daemon55, state YOUR specs and details
[04:41] <daemon55> cfhowlett: you mean with the commands?
[04:41] <cfhowlett> !details | daemon55,
[04:42] <daemon55> i am having issues with my battery when i am on it it flickers
[04:42] <evalde> omfg
[04:42] <evalde> i can't paste the link here because my chromium url bar is glitching out and is flickering black
[04:42] <evalde> fml
[04:43] <evalde> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23080457/
[04:43] <cfhowlett> daemon55, ?  your BATTERY flickers?  what?
[04:43] <evalde> GOT IT
[04:43] <daemon55> cfhowlett sorry screen my fault!
[04:44] <evalde> maybe chromium is just too much for my laptop...but that would be shocking because it could run chrome just fine in windows.
[04:44] <evalde> the slowdowns also weren't happening in windows
[04:44] <panpan> Hello! I can't ping in or out on my ubuntu 14.04LTS server. My ip tables are fine (apparently) and i use a network firewall
[04:44] <cfhowlett> daemon55, got it.  If this happens on battery only, I would suggest you start in investigation there.
[04:45] <Bashing-om> evalde: Your paste says swap is not a  issue . it is there and is 2 Gigs in size .
[04:46] <daemon55> cfhowlett i tried google but so far nothing has come up!
[04:46] <evalde> hmm...what else could be causing all of these issues do you think?
[04:47] <cfhowlett> daemon55, http://askubuntu.com/questions/69556/how-to-check-battery-status-using-terminal#102863
[04:47] <evalde> Maybe I should mention that issues will be fixed upon restart. maybe "refreshed" is better than "fixed" because they are all bound to happen again.
[04:50] <BarnabasDK> evalde, so try firefox. if that solves the issue the problem lies in chromium .. if not. you are that much wiser
[04:50] <evalde> Alright, I'll give that a try. The other issues are still up in the air though.
[04:54] <dfdghdfghgfhdfhd> hi
[04:54] <dfdghdfghgfhdfhd> could someone tell me how to get free bitcoin?
[04:54] <dfdghdfghgfhdfhd> my friends told me the ubuntu chat was full of hackers
[04:54] <cfhowlett> dfdghdfghgfhdfhd, wrong channel.  ask elsewhere.  this is ubuntu support
[04:54] <cfhowlett> dfdghdfghgfhdfhd, your friends have misinformed you.
[04:54] <dfdghdfghgfhdfhd> but they said you ccould hack
[04:54] <cfhowlett> dfdghdfghgfhdfhd, go away
[04:54] <dfdghdfghgfhdfhd> and give me free bitcoin on from ubuntu
[04:55] <dfdghdfghgfhdfhd> they said something about mining
[04:55] <anon__> #kali
[04:55] <dfdghdfghgfhdfhd> ok
[04:55] <dfdghdfghgfhdfhd> so are you guys true hackers
[04:56] <ksft> Do you understand what "hackers" means?
[04:57] <cfhowlett> ksft, please do not feed the trolls
[04:57] <Ben64> this is the ubuntu support channel, not hacking, not bitcoin, not anything else besides ubuntu support
[04:57] <ksft> or what Ubuntu is
[04:57] <dfdghdfghgfhdfhd> yes
[04:57] <dfdghdfghgfhdfhd> it means free money
[04:57] <ksft> !ops
[04:57] <dfdghdfghgfhdfhd> its free software to give me money
[04:58] <ksft> (ops: is this enough of an "emergency"?)
[04:58] <dfdghdfghgfhdfhd> my frineds said you'll make me live the high life for free
[04:58] <Flannel> dfdghdfghgfhdfhd: This is a channel for Ubuntu technical support.  Please take offtopic conversations elsewhere, thanks.
[04:58] <anon__> ksft: y
[04:58] <ksft> anon__: what?
[04:58] <dfdghdfghgfhdfhd> but you guys can give me free money
[04:58] <dfdghdfghgfhdfhd> emergency!
[04:58] <ksft> cfhowlett: wasn't entirely sure they were trolling yet
[04:58] <dfdghdfghgfhdfhd> emergency!
[04:58] <ksft> cfhowlett: now I am, of course
[04:58] <Flannel> dfdghdfghgfhdfhd: Neither bitcoin nor free money is Ubuntu technical support.
[04:58] <dfdghdfghgfhdfhd> #ubuntu emergency!
[04:59] <dfdghdfghgfhdfhd> why'd the connection drop
[04:59] <evalde> jesus christ thanks for getting rid of that lol
[04:59] <arooni> hey folks; running ubuntu 16.04 on my lenovo t420; question:: just today under sound settings, i noticed that the option for headphone only output is gone.  how can i get it back?  thanks!
[04:59] <dfdghdfghgfhdfhd> i just want free money
[05:00] <ksft> Flannel: can you just ban them?
[05:01] <viableend> Hallo
[05:01] <khklhkljklkjlhlk> Hi
[05:01] <cfhowlett> viableend, greetings.  ask ubuntu questions
[05:02] <khklhkljklkjlhlk> So could someone just donate the money
[05:02] <khklhkljklkjlhlk> in bitcoin
[05:02] <ksft> Flannel: ^
[05:02] <anon__> khklhkljklkjlhlk:
[05:02] <Flannel> ksft: I'm aware.  Thanks.
[05:02] <ksft> just in case you weren't paying attention
[05:02] <evalde> Flannel is on top of the game
[05:03] <cfhowlett> ops are *always* watching.
[05:03] <arooni> n fact i dont see any other output options other than speakers... why not?
[05:03] <freemoney> i am feeling excluded from the free software community
[05:03] <freemoney> i just want free bitcoin
[05:03] <ksft> repeating my question from a little while ago:
[05:03] <ksft> I have an integrated Intel graphics card and a dedicated Nvidia one. When I have Nvidia drivers installed, I get a login loop. When I uninstall them, I can log in, but I can't use the
[05:03] <ksft>                  Nvidia graphics card.
[05:04] <viableend> I hope this is at least slightly on topic, but in your opinion whats the best way to get used to the bash and the command line
[05:04] <ksft> whoops, copied my client's line wrap as a newline
[05:04] <cfhowlett> viableend, use them often.  example: avoid the gui commands for update. use the command line: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[05:04] <Flannel> viableend: What do you mean by "get used to bash and the command line"?  Can you elaborate?
[05:05] <ijustreallylikel> how can i help ubuntu's work
[05:05] <ksft> ijustreallylikel: you can donate
[05:05] <cfhowlett> !contribute | ijustreallylikel
[05:05] <Sudolsnano> Donate
[05:05] <panpan> Anyone?
[05:05] <ijustreallylikel> but you haven't given me my free bitcoin yet
[05:05] <viableend> Well scripting for one, I use C++ on a very elementry basis but wrapping my head around real applications on my desktop is just different
[05:05] <ijustreallylikel> @freemoney
[05:06] <viableend> I understand it could make life easier but im not quite to the point of it making my life easier if that makes more sense
[05:06] <Ben64> ip address is always from a dedicated server ip, must be a bunch of exploited servers, or open proxies
[05:06] <ksft> Flannel: Should or have network ops be notified about the spammer?
[05:06] <cfhowlett> viableend, it does not
[05:06] <ksft> that sentence was not constructed well
[05:06] <daemon55> cfhowlett: the battery seems okay.
[05:07] <ksft> Should network ops be or have they been notified*
[05:07] <cfhowlett> viableend, never the less; gui is merely the pretty picture.  behind the scenes is a command line equivalent.  find it and use it and you will quickly learn.
[05:07] <Flannel> ksft: No and no.
[05:07] <cfhowlett> ksft, let #ops handle it.
[05:07] <Ben64> they're exploited servers, if anyone wants to send a bunch of abuse emails
[05:08] <cfhowlett> daemon55, got a replacement battery you can substitute?
[05:08] <viableend> Okay thank you very much, sorry for being incoherent, it's late here and I just wanted to use irssi
[05:08] <icanchatallday> hi
[05:08] <Flannel> viableend: viableend http://quadpoint.org/articles/irssi/ is what you're looking for.
[05:09] <viableend> I mean I am using it to chat right now
[05:09] <viableend> New to IRC
[05:09] <cfhowlett> viableend, do you have any other ubuntu questions?
[05:09] <ksft> viableend: Are you asking for help with bash or with Irssi?
[05:09] <daemon55> cfhowlett: i cant its internal.
[05:10] <cfhowlett> daemon55, dual booting?
[05:11] <daemon55> cfhowlett:i dont get why it does this on ubuntu it has worked fine on windows
[05:12] <jjyynnxx> Hi
[05:12] <Sudolsnano> Do you have any suggestions for a vpn supporting 1000/100 bandwith
[05:12] <jjyynnxx> Why isn't my graphics card working
[05:12] <lotuspsychje> Sudolsnano: perhaps a question for ##networking?
[05:12] <Sudolsnano> jjyynnxx: what card are you using
[05:13] <jjyynnxx> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/nvidia-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1070-8gb-gddr5-pci-express-3-0-graphics-card/5330700.p?id=bb5330700&skuId=5330700
[05:13] <jjyynnxx> A friend of mine said it's good for bitcoin mining
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> jjyynnxx: wich ubuntu version are you on?
[05:14] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje, he's trolling
[05:14] <Sudolsnano> lotuspsychje: his a troll
[05:14] <jjyynnxx> im not sure
[05:14] <jjyynnxx> 14.04
[05:14] <jjyynnxx> lts
[05:14] <jjyynnxx> i am not a troll
[05:14] <jjyynnxx> i just need help
[05:14] <jjyynnxx> with my graphics card
[05:14] <Ben64> confirmed troll
[05:14] <cfhowlett> kill it with fire
[05:14] <jjyynnxx> @Ben64 why so?
[05:14] <ksft> Flannel: come on, this is taking so long
[05:15] <Ben64> because you're the same troll who thinks they're good at trolling
[05:15] <ksft> Ben64: don't feed trolls
[05:15] <jjyynnxx> i literally just joined this chat
[05:15] <jjyynnxx> How am I a troll?
[05:15] <jjyynnxx> You can even check the IPs
[05:15] <jjyynnxx> This is the first time I've logged in
[05:16] <jjyynnxx> Is anyone going to help me
[05:16] <jjyynnxx> with my graphics card?
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> !patience | jjyynnxx
[05:17] <jjyynnxx> :(
[05:17] <jjyynnxx> how would you feel if I switched to fedora?
[05:17] <jjyynnxx> Would you be mad?
[05:17] <jjyynnxx> That i used their distro over yours?
[05:17] <Ben64> i'd be very happy
[05:17] <jjyynnxx> why?
[05:18] <cfhowlett> wouldn't care.
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> jjyynnxx: please dont use other chat then support in this channel
[05:18] <ksft> hah
[05:18] <Sudolsnano> id celebrate
[05:18] <ksft> "You can even check the IPs"
[05:18] <jjyynnxx> what about xubuntu?
[05:18] <ksft> jjyynnxx: come on, you should be better than that
[05:18] <jjyynnxx> is xubuntu better
[05:18] <cfhowlett> ksft, please.  stop.
[05:18] <netvixtra> jjyynnxx: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[05:18] <tripelb> use /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:18] <ksft> If you had just joined, you wouldn't have known that trolls with different IP addresses had been here.
[05:18] <jjyynnxx> why?
[05:19] <jjyynnxx> I can figured out that there had been a problem
[05:19] <jjyynnxx> after you called me a troll
[05:19] <jjyynnxx> i know about networking and stuff
[05:19] <jjyynnxx> So i said to check the ip logs
[05:19] <jjyynnxx> So you could confirm i haven't been on before
[05:19] <lotuspsychje> !ot | jjyynnxx
[05:19] <tripelb> !wifi jjyynnxx
[05:19] <Sudolsnano> to see the same ipv4 freenodes?
[05:19] <jjyynnxx> yes
[05:19] <Ben64> everyone stop, it's a troll. stop letting the troll waste your time.
[05:19] <tripelb> !wifi | jjyynnxx
[05:19] <jjyynnxx> i am not a troll
[05:19] <jjyynnxx> I just need help
[05:20] <jjyynnxx> with my graphics card
[05:20] <cfhowlett> Hexchat users: right click on the nick and then "ignore".  you will not see *anything* from him after that.
[05:21] <Sudolsnano> which was 1070 because you tought it was good for mining BTC? why are you @ubuntu
[05:21] <ksft> other IRC clients: "/ignore jjyynnxx"
[05:21] <jjyynnxx> @cfhowlett why are you so mean to me?
[05:21] <jjyynnxx> :'(
[05:22] <tripelb> Question: i want to install 16.04 on a separate partition and use the already existing /home partition AND NOT ERASE IT. Please advise.
[05:22] <Flannel> Ok guys, when you're "ignoring a troll", you need to actually stop responding completely.  Even if it's to agree with them that they should go away.
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> tripelb: the liveusb can choose to save your existing /home
[05:23] <ksft> I tried to do that, but come on
[05:23] <guest4345235234>  Is it possible to watch Netflix on Ubuntu?
[05:23] <ksft> that was such an obvious mistake
[05:23] <cfhowlett> guest4345235234, possible.  not easy.
[05:23] <guest4345235234> ok
[05:23] <lotuspsychje> !netflix | guest4345235234
[05:23] <guest4345235234> how would i get started?
[05:23] <ksft> or possibly more trolling
[05:23] <ksft> I think I got it to work on Chrome
[05:23] <guest4345235234> my wife needs to borrow my laptop
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> guest4345235234: omgubuntu has a recent article about netflix and ubuntu also
[05:24] <guest4345235234> she says she needs to watch erotic films
[05:24] <Sudolsnano> guest4345235234:
[05:24] <Ben64> same troll again
[05:24] <Sudolsnano> same
[05:24] <tripelb> lotuspsychje: please tell me how. i installed once and got a home in the same partition.
[05:24] <cfhowlett> yep
[05:24] <Sudolsnano> freenodes
[05:24] <ksft> guest4345235234: just tested it
[05:24] <guest4345235234> ok
[05:24] <Flannel> sigh.
[05:24] <ksft> seems to work fine on Chrome
[05:24] <guest4345235234> So she can watch her films
[05:24] <guest4345235234> ?
[05:24] <guest4345235234> I don't want my wife to be mad
[05:25] <guest4345235234> she doesn't know much about linux
[05:25] <Flannel> guest4345235234: yes.
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> !partioning | tripelb
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> !partition
[05:25] <guest4345235234> @ksft Did you help my friend @freemoney??
[05:25] <ksft> wow that was fast
[05:26] <Flannel> Ben64, Sudolsnano: please stop announcing things like that.  No one in here is stupid.  But you cause problems by egging them on.
[05:26] <Flannel> If people are trying to get reactions, the worst thing you can do is react.
[05:27] <tripelb> ok lotuspsychje i have partitioned just fine. i have windows, windows backup, 14.04, /home, and 16.04
[05:27] <cfhowlett> as difficult as it is: ignore always works if you actually ignore.
[05:27] <fedoraisbetter> I think fedora is a better and nicer community
[05:27] <fedoraisbetter> tell me im wrong
[05:27] <fedoraisbetter> :P
[05:27] <tripelb> I want to make certain I do not erase the present existing /home lotuspsychje
[05:28] <bazhang> fedoraisbetter, lets take this chat out of the support channel please
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> tripelb: if you choose to save your /home on the liveusb, it wont be erased
[05:28] <fedoraisbetter> why
[05:29] <Sudolsnano> tripelb: live installation has an option to save an existing /home directory aswell as encrypt it, is your /home on the same partition or how is it setup?
[05:30] <bazhang> fedoraisbetter, this is support only, not chit chat, #ubuntu-offtopic for that
[05:31] <tripelb> lotuspsychje: when I partition there isnt a "save home" choice. i can designate the partition that has home on it as /home.  i am asking here becaise I want KNOWING assurance that it wont be reformatted.
[05:31] <fedoraisbetter> ok
[05:32] <tripelb> fedoraisbetter: #ubuntu-offtopic is useful.
[05:32] <lotuspsychje> tripelb: usually the liveusb setup will leave you few choices, when you read closely it will tell you wich option will save your /home
[05:32] <panpan> Does ping/icmp need a port open for a network firewall?
[05:33] <tripelb> ok thank you lotuspsychje
[05:34] <evalde> I am getting a strange glitch where my wifi is not showing up as being connected yet i still clearly am.
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> tripelb: another wise option, is to make a backup before you proceed
[05:36] <lotuspsychje> evalde: ubuntu version?
[05:36] <evalde> ubuntu MATE
[05:36] <hateball> panpan: It needs to allow ICMP, period. There is also #networking
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> evalde: wich mate version?
[05:37] <evalde> 16.04
[05:37] <Sudolsnano> evalde: try sudo stop network-manager
[05:37] <evalde> will that end my wifi connection? just curious
[05:38] <Sudolsnano> evalde: or remove the nm entirely and reinstall
[05:38] <redengin> anyone know how to get pysvn to install under python3?
[05:38] <panpan> hateball, I use OVH, and I dont recall being able to allow certain protocols. Let me check once more
[05:38] <Sudolsnano> evalde: yes
[05:38] <evalde> i wouldn't know how to go about removing the nm
[05:38] <evalde> or restarting the mn once i use that command code
[05:38] <Ben64> panpan: ovh doesn't block anything
[05:39] <panpan> Ok dokey
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> evalde: does the wifi icon show?
[05:39] <evalde> it shows an empty outline of a "pizza" shape where the wifi bars would be
[05:39] <evalde> then when i click on it, no noticed wifi connections are listed, nothing is listed really
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> evalde: what kind of wifi chipset?
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> evalde: are you up to date to 16.04.1?
[05:40] <evalde> i do not know, it has shown the bars before though. this problem only occurs when i open the laptop back up again after it has gone into sleep mode
[05:41] <evalde> i just setup the OS two days ago so I should be
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> evalde: yeah always keep your system up to date
[05:41] <fattyboomboom> hello
[05:41] <evalde> definitely, unless it has been updated since then we are good
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> evalde: can you make sure with lsb_release -a
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> evalde: there were networking issues when 16.04 came out with wifi icon/network manager
[05:43] <evalde> 16.04.1
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> kk
[05:43] <evalde> it says 16.04.1 under description but 16.04 under release
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> evalde: try a network-manager restart like Sudolsnano suggested
[05:43] <evalde> how do i restart after ending it
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> evalde: reboot
[05:44] <evalde> i can't do sudo start network-manager?
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> evalde: sure
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> evalde: what kind of wifi chipset are you on?
[05:45] <evalde> i do not know
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> evalde: lshw -C network
[05:46] <evalde> stopping network manager brb
[05:46] <evalde> sudo stop command not found?
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> evalde: systemctl
[05:46] <evalde> ?
[05:47] <evalde> i also ran -C network, what info are you interested in?
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> evalde: the wchipset of your wifi
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> chipset
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> evalde: broadcom? intel? atheros?
[05:48] <evalde> intel
[05:48] <Sudolsnano> evalde: try sudo apt-get upgrade network-manager
[05:49] <Sudolsnano> evalde: are you running gnome or kde ?
[05:49] <evalde> ran that
[05:49] <evalde> nothing done
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> evalde: systemctl restart network-manager
[05:49] <evalde> idk about gnome or kde, whatever runs out OOTB with ubuntu MATE
[05:50] <evalde> i believe it is a gnome relative though
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> !info network-manager
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> evalde: is this the network-manager version you having?
[05:50] <evalde> ok so i just restarted my network manager
[05:51] <evalde> and now the network indicator is not in the upper right at all
[05:51] <Sudolsnano> start it
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> evalde: try a reboot perhaps
[05:51] <evalde> i started it, nothing
[05:52] <evalde> the problem will be fixed upon reboot but it always starts happening again :/
[05:52] <evalde> but in the scheme of things, it isn't that horrible of a problem
[05:52] <Sudolsnano> evalde: reboot system if it doesnt appear, i suggest clean reinstall if if doesnt go away, theres something with 16.04, UEFI installation and nm
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> evalde: apt-cache policy network-manager to compare versions?
[05:52] <ImNotQ009> Hello, I seem to have a problem with the SSH agent on 14.04, when I try to add a key with 'ssh-add' I get the following error: 'Could not open a connection to your authentication agent. ' This is the output I get on 'ssh-agent': http://paste.ubuntu.com/23080529/ Any assistance, please?
[05:54] <evalde> i am having another big problem though. My chromium url bar is totally glitched out. it will be fixed upon reboot also but right now it is glitching out and flashing black. no other problems with accessing web pages or anything though, just a very annoying glitch making chromium unusable
[05:55] <evalde> @lotuspsychje just checked and the version is up to date
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> evalde: so your wifi issue only reproducable after lid closed?
[05:56] <evalde> yes. after the lid is closed and i have to login again, the wifi issue and the chrome issue happen simultaneously
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> evalde: chromium acting weird from the first time you installed?
[05:59] <evalde> yes
[05:59] <evalde> should i reinstall?
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> evalde: if its glitching from your first setup, something else is a problem
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> evalde: perhaps try to check your additional drivers?
[06:00] <evalde> i just reinstalled it
[06:01] <evalde> alright let me check the drivers
[06:01] <evalde> i set everything to auto update though
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> evalde: and leave a tail -f /var/log/syslog open when you tuning stuff
[06:01] <evalde> i don't really understand
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> evalde: perhaps some usefull errors will arise
[06:01] <sanfusu> whois sanfusu
[06:02] <ImNotQ009> Figured it out, appears I forgot to do eval $(ssh-agent)
[06:02] <evalde> currently searching for additional drivers
[06:02] <evalde> the only additional driver listed is
[06:02] <tripelb> lotuspsychje: i asked in offtopic and they all warned me not to do it.
[06:02] <evalde> Unknown: Unknown
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> tripelb: to do what exactly?
[06:04] <evalde> using processor microcode firmware for intel CPUs from intel-microcode (proprietary)
[06:04] <evalde> should i use that or no? ^
[06:04] <evalde> the other option is "do not use the device"
[06:04] <lotuspsychje> evalde: is it active or not?
[06:04] <tripelb> lotuspsychje: to use the same /home for two installations.
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> tripelb: you came here with the question to save your /home
[06:06] <Sudolsnano> tripelb: then backup and install clean, i suggest to partition your drive in 3 sections and have home in own partition
[06:07] <lotuspsychje> tripelb: everyone uses another aproach for data..personally i save everything on external storage nothing in /home
[06:10] <tripelb> lotuspsychje: thanks again. i have to get up early so nitenite
[06:10] <orangespark> guys
[06:11] <orangespark> my toshiba external hard disk fell down and now it freezes the lap when i am trying to copy files from it
[06:11] <cfhowlett> orangespark, you dropped it?
[06:12] <cfhowlett> nothing ubuntu can do to fix a physical hardware issue.  if you need that data, strongly suggest you consult a data recovery service.
[06:12] <panpan> Hello, So i authorised ICMP on the network firewall, but I still can't ping in or out.. anything else i should try?
[06:12] <relyks> has anyone had a problems with wacom drivers in 16.04
[06:12] <relyks> ?
[06:12] <Ben64> panpan: how did you do that
[06:13] <relyks> or does anyone know of any issues? I've been having problems ::(
[06:13] <orangespark> @cfhowlett yes
[06:13] <orangespark> dropped it
[06:13] <orangespark> :(
[06:13] <cfhowlett> relyks, don't waste time with "... anyone ...".  state YOUR details and specs
[06:13] <relyks> cfhowlett: alright, that's a good point :D thanks
[06:14] <relyks> I'll gather them up
[06:14] <panpan> Ben64 - it was a configuration in the firewall option... tbh I never had a refuse on it either way
[06:14] <cfhowlett> happy2help! relyks
[06:14] <Ben64> orangespark: might be able to recover some stuff, drive might be dead forever
[06:14] <orangespark> drive is working but
[06:14] <Ben64> panpan: what firewall option where
[06:14] <orangespark> its detecting
[06:14] <orangespark> i think some files have got corrupted
[06:15] <cfhowlett> orangespark, until you get a for sure from your data recovery, unplug it and leave it unplugged.  if it's heading to failure, your attempts could accelerate the process.
[06:15] <relyks> cfhowlett: do you know what ubuntu uses for the wacom drivers? I think it'd be a better bet to just revert to a previous version of the drivers
[06:15] <cfhowlett> relyks, best to use the wacom site.  wait 1
[06:15] <panpan> Ben64 I can change / rufuse/ allow ports/protocols through the GUI provided to me by the host
[06:15] <orangespark> so what should i do
[06:16] <Ben64> orangespark: use ddrescue, rsync, data recovery service, or just use your backups
[06:16] <trijntje> orangespark: first unplug the device, then ask again ;)
[06:16] <Ben64> panpan: talk to them then
[06:16] <cfhowlett> orangespark, unplug i9t.  call data recovery.  see what they say.  they *should* say "we'll plug it and mirror it and see what's recoverable."
[06:16] <relyks> cfhowlett: like official wacom site? I was just about to take a look at linuxwacom
[06:16] <cfhowlett> or that ...
[06:16] <orangespark> so is there a data recovery center for toshiba
[06:17] <orangespark> i dont know what to do
[06:17] <trijntje> orangespark: unplug it
[06:17] <panpan> Ben64 - oh ok.. but is there other options I can try before doing  so?
[06:17] <Ben64> i'd try it myself first, data recovery is EXPENSIVE
[06:17] <orangespark> in the box its given 3 years limited warranty
[06:17] <orangespark> i have unplugged it
[06:17] <orangespark> in fact its at home
[06:17] <orangespark> :P
[06:17] <cfhowlett> orangespark, ah! so contact Toshiba.  "forget" to mention the drop though.
[06:17] <Ben64> panpan: well "GUI provided to me by the host" doesn't sound like anything involving ubuntu
[06:17] <orangespark> :D
[06:18] <orangespark> ya cfhwolett
[06:18] <Ben64> warranty almost never covers data
[06:18] <orangespark> thats okay
[06:18] <Ben64> they'll just send you a blank new drive
[06:18] <orangespark> still i want a hard disk
[06:18] <orangespark> its 2 TB
[06:18] <orangespark> :(
[06:18] <orangespark> i cant just loode it
[06:18] <orangespark> leave it like that
[06:19] <panpan> Ben64 - well I was only seeing if allowing icmp through the firewall would make a difference - Im aware if there are no rules set it is allows it by default
[06:19] <trijntje> orangespark: if you don't care about the data there's nothing we can do.
[06:19] <Ben64> panpan: anything in "sudo iptables -L -n" ?
[06:19] <trijntje> but I doubt dropping it is covered under your warranty
[06:19] <panpan> Ok hold ups
[06:19] <orangespark> i do
[06:20] <orangespark> its just that if the data is irrrecoverable
[06:20] <orangespark> then the second choice is of course and definitively to get a new hard disk
[06:20] <orangespark> :D
[06:20] <Ben64> it's probably at least partially recoverable, do that first
[06:23] <orangespark> the prob is i am unable to find a toshiba service center nearby
[06:23] <orangespark> i bought it through snapdeal
[06:23] <orangespark> so should i call snapdeal
[06:23] <orangespark> or the dealer who sold me or
[06:23] <Ben64> this is getting way offtopic
[06:23] <Ben64> toshiba.com has the answers
[06:24] <orangespark> is there an irc channel for toshiba
[06:24] <Ben64> unlikely
[06:24] <cfhowlett> but .. there IS a toshiba website.  shocking, I know ...
[06:27] <elky> cfhowlett: the snark is unnecessary, thanks.
[06:28] <soxa> hey somebody can help me I have a lenovo B50 notebook and ubuntu 16.04 on it, when I want to shutdown it it's just get stuck and won't turn off
[06:29] <lotuspsychje> soxa: sudo halt -p turns it off?
[06:31] <soxa> going to check it out one sec
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> soxa: F1 during studown can also reveal errors
[06:33] <orangespark> dude i tried it its useles
[06:33] <orangespark> toshiba site
[06:34] <orangespark> thats y i am asking  where i am possible to get a help
[06:34] <Ben64> really. toshiba.com
[06:34] <EriC^^> orangespark: tried what?
[06:35] <orangespark> toshiba website to apply for data recovery on any other way to repair my hard disk
[06:35] <orangespark> i dropped it and now i cant copy files
[06:36] <orangespark> copying freezes in between
[06:36] <soxa> hey I'm back sudo halt -p did not helped
[06:36] <EriC^^> orangespark: did you try manually mounting it?
[06:36] <orangespark> ya
[06:36] <orangespark> it mounts
[06:38] <EriC^^> orangespark: did you try running gddrescue a couple times to copy it to another hdd?
[06:40] <orangespark> and i can see the files also
[06:40] <orangespark> no
[06:40] <orangespark> actually the prob is its a 2tb hard disk
[06:41] <orangespark> thats the only hard disk i have
[06:41] <orangespark> even i have to do gddrescue i will need another hdd
[06:41] <EriC^^> yeah
[06:41] <EriC^^> if it's failing though the more you use it the more likely your data will be lost
[06:42] <EriC^^> you should try to ddrescue it asap
[06:42] <orangespark> so i was thinking of giving that hard disk to toshiba then
[06:42] <Ben64> if you give it to them, you lose all your data
[06:42] <orangespark> what
[06:42] <orangespark> chfwolett
[06:42] <orangespark> told me that there is a data recovery center
[06:43] <Ben64> please read more carefully
[06:43] <orangespark> they recover whatever is recoverable
[06:43] <EriC^^> orangespark: try ddrescue first, data recovery costs a lot of $$
[06:43] <orangespark> ohh
[06:44] <Rebelnet> hello
[06:45] <Rebelnet> so, i have a chromebook, i can't install any distro on via USB flash drive on boot up.
[06:46] <defacemind> hi
[06:46] <defacemind> Anyone here¿?
[06:46] <Ben64> 1860 people
[06:47] <defacemind> but online ?
[06:47] <Obadiah1> yes
[06:47] <defacemind> excelent my friends!
[06:47]  * Obadiah1 eats pie
[06:47] <defacemind> i dont speak much english
[06:47] <defacemind> anyone speak spanish ?
[06:47] <EriC^^> !sp | defacemind
[06:47] <Obadiah1> thats okay we still love you
[06:47] <EriC^^> !es | defacemind
[06:48] <Rebelnet> i need help. my brain hurts
[06:48] <defacemind> excelent, very thanks bro's!!
[06:48] <kexy> I used to have a boyfriend
[06:48] <kexy> named "Ubuntu" once
[06:48] <kexy> ...he would "play the bongos" on my ass.\
[06:48] <kexy> I used to have a boyfriend
[06:48] <kexy> named "Ubuntu" once
[06:48] <kexy> ...he would "play the bongos" on my ass.
[06:48] <Obadiah1> video proof required
[06:49] <kexy> I used to have a boyfriend
[06:49] <Ben64> haven't seen that one for a while
[06:49] <defacemind> spam?
[06:49] <EriC^^> yes, it's a classic
[06:49] <defacemind> why ?
[06:49] <Rebelnet> wow someone is an op here
[06:49] <defacemind> how ?
[06:49] <EriC^^> good ol' bongo spam
[06:50] <defacemind> and this happens why?
[06:51] <defacemind> any script in the sistem?
[06:51] <Rebelnet> Mr. Robot
[06:51] <defacemind> but in ubuntu
[06:51] <Ben64> defacemind: people are bored, don't worry about it. if you want to chat to people, use #ubuntu-offtopic , this channel is for support only
[06:52] <Rebelnet> Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[06:53] <EriC^^> !register | Rebelnet
[06:53] <defacemind> ok i need help, how show the initrd.img in my sistem, is comprimed not ? how descomprimed this?
[06:53] <EriC^^> defacemind: comprimed?
[06:54] <Rebelnet> does freenode use nickserv?
[06:54] <EriC^^> you want to see what's inside it?
[06:54] <EriC^^> Rebelnet: yes
[06:54] <Rebelnet> oh ic
[06:55] <Rebelnet> i'm installing ubuntu right now
[06:55] <Rebelnet> on my chromebook
[06:56] <defacemind> sorry my english is bad, the archive is in extention  img, how can i see the archive img?
[06:58] <stopRNM> Hello all online users ! How are u today?
[06:59] <defacemind> fine stopRNM
[06:59] <cfhowlett> stopRNM, aks your ubuntu question
[06:59] <defacemind> #ubuntu-es is dead
[06:59] <stopRNM> Do u understand my nickname?
[06:59] <defacemind> nothing there
[07:00] <cfhowlett> stopRNM, do you have an UBUNTU question??
[07:01] <stopRNM> Another question. How can we stop RNM(remote neural monitoring)????
[07:01] <Renon> the pseudo is the question
[07:01] <Renon> how deep
[07:01] <cfhowlett> stopRNM,  nothing to do with ubuntu.  suggestion you try somewhere else
[07:01] <stopRNM> They read my mind. These bastards from Israel.
[07:01] <ducasse> stopRNM: you've been told before to take that crap elsewhere
[07:02] <stopRNM> Hey
[07:02] <EriC^^> ducasse: you have to send him it via sshn
[07:02] <stopRNM> Ubuntu users have forums..and can speak about this subject.
[07:02] <cfhowlett> stopRNM,  the topic here is UBUNTU.  stay on topic.
[07:03] <stopRNM> Ok. Exist ubuntu for smartphone??
[07:03] <cfhowlett> !touch | stopRNM
[07:04] <stopRNM> I use android but i think is no good...
[07:06] <stopRNM> Thank you for help! Maybe ..in future...u can answer how can We stop this bastards who use REMOTE NEURAL MONITORING against us
[07:06] <Ben64> nope, stop bringing that crap in here
[07:08] <soxa> hey somebody can help me I have a lenovo B50 notebook with ubuntu 16.04 and when I try to shut it down it just hangs
[07:13] <defacemind> exi
[07:16] <Tin_man> soxa, does it shutdown in Terminal with the command sudo shutdown now?
[07:16] <soxa> no
[07:17] <stan_man_can> Hi all. Installing Ubuntu for the first time. I have 2 SSD’s, one is 120GB and one is 240GB. I was thinking I would us the 120GB as my boot drive and my 240GB for my home directory.
[07:17] <stan_man_can> However, not sure how to set this up in the installer
[07:18] <cfhowlett> stan_man_can, during the partition stage, you can manually select targets.  set /home on your 240 and / on your 120
[07:18] <EriC^^> stan_man_can: in the Something else menu, make a ext4 with mountpoint "/" on the first ssd, and in the second ssd make a ext4 partition with mountpoint /home
[07:18] <stan_man_can> cfhowlett: are those the only mount points I need? / and home?
[07:18] <EriC^^> stan_man_can: are you using uefi?
[07:19] <stan_man_can> previously with fedora I think it was creating a /swap and /boot as well
[07:19] <stan_man_can> EriC^^:  not sure… how can I find out?
[07:19] <cfhowlett> stan_man_can, you might consider adding /swap.  /boot might be triggered if you are on uefi.  your partitioner will tell you is so.
[07:19] <EriC^^> stan_man_can: are you in the live session right now?
[07:19] <stan_man_can> EriC^^: I can be one sec
[07:20] <EriC^^> stan_man_can: you only typically need swap if you want hibernation
[07:20] <EriC^^> anything like 4g or something of ram is enough for ubuntu
[07:20] <researcher123> I tried to format my pen drive but its failing repeatedly. Here is the error message https://imagebin.ca/v/2sX1QIBy9J1e . Please help
[07:20] <stan_man_can> EriC^^: “something of ram”, do you mean equal to my ram?
[07:20] <Tin_man> soxa, don't know..
[07:20] <stan_man_can> EriC^^:  aright in a live session now
[07:20] <cfhowlett> researcher123, try a different stick
[07:21] <EriC^^> stan_man_can: ok open a terminal and type ls /sys/firmware/efi
[07:21] <researcher123> cfhowlett: but I want to use it
[07:21] <stan_man_can> EriC^^: there’s stuff in there
[07:22] <EriC^^> stan_man_can: ok that means your booted in uefi mode, so you need a fat32 efi partition too
[07:22] <EriC^^> 300mb in size
[07:22] <EriC^^> in the first ssd that has "/"
[07:22] <cfhowlett> EriC^^, thought the recommended size was 500mb?
[07:23] <stan_man_can> if i have a nvidia video card should I be checking off “Install third-party sfotware for graphics and wifi ...."
[07:23] <cfhowlett> stan_man_can, couldn't hurt
[07:23] <EriC^^> cfhowlett: i guess so, it really only uses like 40mb or something
[07:23] <stan_man_can> cfhowlett: thanks
[07:23] <cfhowlett> happy2help! stan_man_can
[07:24] <researcher123> I tried to format my pen drive but its failing repeatedly. Here is the error message https://imagebin.ca/v/2sX1QIBy9J1e . Please help
[07:24] <soxa> hey somebody can help me I have a lenovo B50 notebook with ubuntu 16.04 and when I try to shut it down it just hangs
[07:24] <stan_man_can> Having a hard time deciding if I should be using my 120GB for boot and 240 for home, or the other way around
[07:24] <stan_man_can> steam stores games in your home directory yeah?
[07:24] <soxa> yes
[07:25] <soxa> but you can chose tho'
[07:25] <stan_man_can> EriC^^:  Weird, this time arround I got a bit of a funky error
[07:26] <EriC^^> stan_man_can: 120gb for boot definitely
[07:26] <stan_man_can> THis machiens firmware has started the installer in UEFI mode but it looks like there may be existing operating systems already installed using “BIOS compatibility mode”. If you continue to install Debian in UEFI mode, it might be difficult to reboot the machine into any BIOS-mode operating systems later. If you wish to install in UEFI ode and don’t care a bout keeping the abilit to boot one of the xisting systems, you have the option to forc
[07:26] <stan_man_can> that here. If you wish to keep the option to boot an existing operating system, you should choose NOT to force UEFI installation here.
[07:27] <stan_man_can> options are “Go Back” or “Continue in UEFI mode"
[07:27] <stan_man_can> my guess is continue in uefi mode, but just wanted to verify
[07:27] <EriC^^> stan_man_can: yeah
[07:27] <EriC^^> it probably detected the msdos partition table on the other ssd or something
[07:28] <stan_man_can> kk
[07:28] <stan_man_can> Alrighty so installation type, erase disk and install ubuntu, or soemthing else?
[07:28] <cfhowlett> stan_man_can, something else
[07:29] <stan_man_can> cfhowlett: and then I just remove all the existing partitions and create my new ones?
[07:29] <cfhowlett> stan_man_can, indeed
[07:29] <stan_man_can> uefi doesn’t look like a mount point?
[07:29] <cfhowlett> uefi is not a mount point
[07:30] <EriC^^> you just choose efi partition as type i think
[07:30] <stan_man_can> OH
[07:30] <stan_man_can> sorry yeah you’re right
[07:30] <stan_man_can> so that’s the first one, 500MB primary beginning of this space EFI System partition
[07:31] <stan_man_can> how big should /boot be ?
[07:31] <EriC^^> no need for it
[07:31] <stan_man_can> oh ok
[07:32] <stan_man_can> EriC^^: /swap isn’t even an option
[07:32] <EriC^^> swap is a type too
[07:33] <EriC^^> i think as the filesystem format
[07:33] <stan_man_can> i’m on fire today
[07:33] <stan_man_can> and that should be primary or logical?
[07:33] <EriC^^> logical is ok
[07:35] <stan_man_can> and then / will be logical, ext4, and take up the rest of the space
[07:35] <stan_man_can> ??
[07:35] <EriC^^> yeah
[07:35] <stan_man_can> and my home directory will be the full size of sdb, primary, ext4 ?
[07:36] <EriC^^> 120gb is huge though
[07:36] <EriC^^> yeah
[07:36] <EriC^^> i guess you could still fill it up with your data somehow
[07:36] <stan_man_can> i guess so but i already have 240GB for my home directory and I have a 2TB mechanical drive ill be plugging in for storage
[07:36] <EriC^^> the system itself with a bunch of programs installed wouldn't reach 20gb i guess
[07:37] <stan_man_can> lol
[07:37] <stan_man_can> dang really?
[07:37] <EriC^^> it's 8-9gb default
[07:37] <EriC^^> yeah
[07:37] <stan_man_can> oh well i guess
[07:37] <stan_man_can> it keeps it nice and separated for me
[07:38] <stan_man_can> i tried using LVM in fedora and it ran for a while but i really had no mental understanding of what was going on with my drives which i didn’t like
[07:38] <stan_man_can> at least this way i know if a drive dies i know exactly whats going with it
[07:38] <EriC^^> yeah
[07:38] <EriC^^> you can always make a dir somewhere like /data or something and make a symlink in your home dir to it and put stuff in it
[07:38] <stan_man_can> yeah
[07:39] <EriC^^> or backup your /home to it
[07:39] <EriC^^> that way if one ssd fails you're still good
[07:39] <stan_man_can> already so i got dev/sda1 efi 499MB (set it to 500, nto sure why it did 499”, i have /dev/sda5 sqap 8192 mb, /dev/sda6 ext4 / 111339mb
[07:39] <stan_man_can> then /dev/sdb1 et4 /home
[07:39] <stan_man_can> 250058mb
[07:39] <stan_man_can> device for boot loader installation: /dev/sda
[07:40] <EriC^^> ok
[07:40] <stan_man_can> neat
[07:40] <stan_man_can> thanks man that’s a ton of help
[07:40] <EriC^^> no problem
[07:40] <Guest3728> hi just installed Ubuntu mate on a hp pavilion dv6700 but I got no sound
[07:41] <stan_man_can> “Encrypt my home folder”, any point? does it slow anything down much?
[07:41] <EriC^^> doesn't really slow anything down, it's up to you
[07:41] <stan_man_can> nevermind pretend i didn’t ask, i know that’s a super personal question
[07:41] <stan_man_can> personal as in, up to the individual
[07:41] <EriC^^> it does make stuff more complicated though, just a tad
[07:41] <EriC^^> yeah
[07:41] <Sudolsnano> stan_man_can: i suggest doing so if your plannin on storing files in /home
[07:44] <stan_man_can> i opted to encrypt
[07:44] <Pam> hi
[07:45] <Pam> hi all
[07:45] <BitKid> Hello, can someone help me with installing ubuntu? It has been around 2 weeks now and every proposed attempt has failed so far
[07:46] <lion5507> are you installing on laptop
[07:46] <lion5507> or like usb
[07:46] <BitKid> It is not the os, even fedora is not working
[07:46] <lion5507> oh
[07:46] <BitKid> desktop have both options
[07:47] <BitKid> I did however find something not sure how to fix it ill past it
[07:47] <sonicx> hi just installed Ubuntu mate on a hp pavilion dv6700 but I got no sound
[07:47] <BitKid> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23080658/
[07:48] <BitKid> so the drivers for the GPU are not found,
[07:48] <BitKid> but lsusb wont show anything no matter how long I wait.
[07:49] <BitKid> Is there a way to find out why the installation keeps crashing? raw data kind of thing?
[07:49] <Pam_> hi hwang
[07:49] <EriC^^> hi Pam_
[07:49] <Pam_>  hi tsia
[07:49] <Pam_> asl plz
[07:49] <Pam_> 15 f here
[07:50] <cfhowlett> Pam_, what is your ubuntu question??
[07:50] <venkat_330> I want to Access a USB device under Non - Privileged user with FTDI2XX Driver . Under root working as expected but under normal user not able to access the device.  Need guidance
[07:51] <_l_k_z_m> venkat_330, can you change permissions with chmod on the device?
[07:52] <BitKid> can anyone pelase give me a hand with my issue?
[07:53] <venkat_330> _l_k_z_m: I ma not able to find the exact path for the device ,,, I remove existing usbserial driver using rmmod and using ftdi library call to access device.  If you could tell me how to find that might might check and update
[07:53] <cfhowlett> BitKid, reboot the USB.  choose "try ubuntu".  then launch the installer.  after the crash, logs will be viewable.
[07:53] <fireball```> BitKid, can you boot livedvd or crashing live too
[07:54] <_l_k_z_m> venkat_330, is it in /dev?
[07:54] <BitKid> crashing on both fireball ,so i can run the gui instaltion now since after install fail I come to a desktop trial enviorment
[07:55] <_l_k_z_m> google the filesystem description... i would but my computer is too slow
[07:55] <BitKid> or will the result be diffrent cfhowlett?
[07:55] <BitKid> if i do the trial version then install vs current condtion
[07:55] <venkat_330> _l_k_z_m: No generally when I plug in it will pop as ttyUSBO.Since i use FTDI i forcefully remove it,,
[07:56] <cfhowlett> BitKid, you need to see the logs for anything other than wild guesses. booting the livecd > try ubuntu > installer crash [07:56] <_l_k_z_m> venkat_330, odd I have no clue what that is... tty doesn't stand for telitype?
[07:57] <BitKid> ok cfhowlett I will come back in the IRC after I reach that point
[07:57] <venkat_330> _l_k_z_m: It is serial port device.
[07:58] <fireball```> BitKid, do you know which video card you have?
[08:02] <ImNotQ009> Well... I kinda accidentally did chmod -R 777 / instead of ./
[08:02] <ImNotQ009> Now I broke a few things, like sudo
[08:03] <ImNotQ009> What's the best way to fix this without having to do a full reinstall?
[08:03] <AndreasCosmo> Sorry for interupting. Hopefully simple question: Is there a way to find the max and min values in a Projection Plot? I'm not a fan of colorbars with only one tick mark so I want to set the range manually.
[08:04] <soxa> hey somebody can help me I have a lenovo B50 notebook with ubuntu 16.04 and when I try to shut it down it just hangs
[08:04] <AndreasCosmo> ugh.. wrong channel.. sorry guys
[08:05] <cfhowlett> ImNotQ009, reinstall.
[08:06] <soxa> done still not work
[08:09] <cfhowlett> soxa, this is a busy channel. refresh our memory
[08:09] <stan_man_can> so I have an nvidia gtx-960, how can i see if the drivers are installed properly?
[08:09] <stan_man_can> just opened up mincraft and got 12FPS so  I think somethings off
[08:10] <cfhowlett> stan_man_can, system > additional drivers should show it I think
[08:10] <soxa> cfhowlett: hey somebody can help me I have a lenovo B50 notebook with ubuntu 16.04 and when I try to shut it down it just hangs
[08:11] <stan_man_can> cfhowlett: ah, it says it was using x.org x server
[08:11] <stan_man_can> i assume i should select using nvidia binary driver ?
[08:12] <cfhowlett> stan_man_can, actually you should have an app to switch.  see if the dash brings up "nvidia" stuff.
[08:12] <stan_man_can> nothing when is search
[08:12] <cfhowlett> stan_man_can, could be you did not install then.
[08:13] <stan_man_can> probably not; i didnt’ do anything really
[08:14] <stan_man_can> just installed ubuntu and updated it; prior to install i selected that “downlaod third party drivers” box but that’s it
[08:14] <cfhowlett> stan_man_can, try additional drivers app again
[08:14] <cfhowlett> see if it offers alternatives
[08:15] <tomreyn> whenever i power up my computer (running xubuntu 16.04), audio goes to the headphones (whether or not they are plugged in). but i need it to go to line out by default. where can i configure this?
[08:16] <sonicx> hp dv6700 sound card not working
[08:19] <stan_man_can> cfhowlett: within System Settings => Software & Updates -> Additional Drivers
[08:19] <cfhowlett> I think so stan_man_can
[08:20] <stan_man_can> Under my GPU I had two options, “Using X.Org X Server - Nouveau display driver from xserver-xorg-video-nouveau (open source)” was selected
[08:20] <cfhowlett> stan_man_can, or the shortcut: dpkg -l | grep nvidia*
[08:20] <stan_man_can> I changed it to “Uusing NVIDIA Binary driver - version 361.42 from nvidia-361 (proprietary, tested)” and it worked
[08:20] <cfhowlett> yep
[08:20] <stan_man_can> it installed some stuff first, i rebooted, and now the FPS is fixed
[08:20] <cfhowlett> :)
[08:20] <stan_man_can> thanks :)
[08:21] <cfhowlett> congrats!  you are now officially an ubuntu guru!  spread the word.
[08:21] <stan_man_can> hahaha
[08:21] <stan_man_can> and that kids, is how ubuntu got a bad rep
[08:23] <Bomber4Chats> Nvidia xorg.conf issue - no screens found
[08:23] <Bomber4Chats> I can't simply delete xorg.conf and hope it resets itself, right?
[08:24] <hateball> Bomber4Chats: you dotn need a xorg.conf unless you make specific tweaks
[08:24] <Bomber4Chats> Nope
[08:24] <Bomber4Chats> So may I delete it?
[08:24] <hateball> yes
[08:25] <Bomber4Chats> And Nvidia or what not wont cry?
[08:25] <hateball> Bomber4Chats: Nope, it shouldnt
[08:26] <Bomber4Chats> K, I need to see if reboot works, because restarting mdm after removing xorg.conf didn't help
[08:27] <stan_man_can> cfhowlett: do you run plex by any chance?
[08:27] <cfhowlett> not that I know of ...
[08:28] <Bomber4Chats> hateball, still no screens found error
[08:29] <hateball> Bomber4Chats: What has changed between your system working as intended and now?
[08:29] <Bomber4Chats> I installed Nvidia driver 375
[08:29] <Bomber4Chats> 375.35
[08:30] <Bomber4Chats> Sorry
[08:30] <Bomber4Chats> 367.35*
[08:30] <hateball> Bomber4Chats: Manually? Or using PPA?
[08:30] <Bomber4Chats> Manually
[08:30] <Bomber4Chats> I'm unaware of a ppa for installing 365
[08:30] <Bomber4Chats> 367*
[08:30] <hateball> Bomber4Chats: Purge the manual install, use this instead https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[08:31] <Bomber4Chats> Please remind me the command to add ppa?
[08:31] <hateball> I had some weird issues with 367 (blank sddm screen) that are gone in 370
[08:31] <hateball> Bomber4Chats: Read the information on the page
[08:35] <Bomber4Chats> There's probably a reason why I can't see the 370 driver
[08:44] <goo> My opendkim replaces the subject with [myorigin] Original Subject - how can I stop it from doing that?
[08:46] <goo> Never mind. Postfix does it with header_checks
[08:47] <huesaurus> I'm trying to daisy chain 2 monitors, how do I enable DP 1.2 for them in ubuntu ?
[08:49] <huesaurus> or am i going about it the wrong way ?
[08:50] <electro> which is the best app to share local files in ubuntu ???
[08:53] <huesaurus> electro, nautilus-share ?
[09:07] <huesaurus> Anyone knows how I can daisy chain 2 monitors on ubuntu? :)
[09:08] <huesaurus> don't have much experience with xrandr etc
[09:13] <ducasse> huesaurus: won't the monitors and the adapter handle that automatically?
[09:17] <huesaurus> ducasse: what do you mean
[09:17] <huesaurus> basically, its a lenovo yoga laptop, and 2 dell monitors
[09:18] <huesaurus> doesn't seep to be finding the third monitor
[09:18] <Ben64> how are they connected
[09:18] <ducasse> huesaurus: can you pastebin the output of xrandr?
[09:18] <huesaurus> lenovo is connected to monitor #1 with a micro HDMI cable, and they are chained with a display port cable
[09:19] <Ben64> thats not how anything works
[09:19] <huesaurus> http://pastebin.com/raw/matSUBhD
[09:19] <huesaurus> Ben64: lol
[09:20] <denger_> quit
[09:21] <huesaurus> uh, what am I missing Ben64 :/
[09:21] <ducasse> huesaurus: you would need a dp output
[09:22] <huesaurus> shieeeet
[09:24] <Guest63456> can someone help me
[09:24] <cfhowlett> !ask | Guest63456
[09:25] <huesaurus> !patience
[09:27] <Guest63456> i just installed Ubuntu mate and I fixed every thing els but I cant get the  sound to work
[09:27] <MacroMan_away> I'm putting a package on hold in dpkg because I'm rolling my own version, which prevents apt from updating it. Problem is, each time I install a new version it resets the hold selection back to install. Is there a better way to handle this?
[09:28] <bazhang> MacroMan, with pinning?
[09:30] <spartan2276> How can I get Apache2 SSL server to accept non ssl. As of now I'm getting a 400 Bad Request error. So all I want is for apache to let me use http and https at the same time.
[09:30] <Shadow_aok> hi
[09:31] <Shadow_aok> i'm having an issue with my ubuntu 14.04.4 lxc container and libc-bin which end broken each time i ran dpkg-reconfigure -a : http://pastebin.com/gQg5VV1S
[09:31] <Shadow_aok> fixing and reinstall it, it's fine, then dpkg-reconfigure -a and it ends with it being broken
[09:31] <MacroMan> bazhang, Thanks. I've been reading into that, but I can only seem to find info on holding to a specific version, which gives the same problem when I install a new version.
[09:32] <bazhang> MacroMan, why install a new version if you want only the older one
[09:33] <MacroMan> I want to install a version that I've repackaged. If I don't hold it, apt will overwrite my installation from the repo
[09:33] <bazhang> MacroMan, so you want something akin to a PPA
[09:34] <MacroMan> bazhang, Yes, but that seems overkill for one package
[09:34] <bazhang> whats the package MacroMan
[09:34] <MacroMan> nginx-core
[09:34] <MacroMan> I'm adding the pagespeed module from Google which requires rebuilding it.
[09:35] <bazhang> thats for you to decide MacroMan on what degree of trouble etc
[09:35] <kdjrand> hello
[09:35] <kdjrand> wha is the name of the gpg package on ubuntu?? i want to remove it??
[09:35] <kdjrand> anyone??
[09:35] <kdjrand> anyone??
[09:36] <bazhang> kdjrand, is there an issue disk space
[09:37] <MacroMan> kdjrand, gpgv
[09:37] <OerHeks> no gpg, no updates ..
[09:37] <OerHeks> LoLz
[09:37] <OerHeks> no packages ..
[09:38] <MacroMan> kdjrand, Tip, use the tab key to try autocompleting package names. If you press tab twice you'll get a full list of matching packages.
[09:38] <mcphail> MacroMan: any reason you are packaging it? If you simply build and install under the /usr/local prefix, your custom binaries and libraries will be used in preference to the package manager's binaries, as /usr/local/bin comes before /usr/bin in the default $PATH
[09:39] <MacroMan> mcphail, This is a new concept to me. Atm I'm using `dpkg --install nginx*.deb` to install it. How can I specify to use /usr/local/bin?
[09:40] <mcphail> MacroMan: any reason you are building to a .deb file?
[09:41] <MacroMan> mcphail, It's the only route I really know tbh. I learnt by following tutorials.
[09:42] <MacroMan> Plus it's very easy. Just calling `dpkg-buildpackage -b` builds new .deb files
[09:42] <mcphail> MacroMan: easiest way is to keep any package management out of the equation. Most build systems such as autotools or cmake have options to set the prefix at teh configuration stage
[09:42] <mcphail> MacroMan: what method is used to build your package?
[09:42] <MacroMan> dpkg-buildpackage -b
[09:43] <kLOs> can anyone tell me why with 16.04 service apache2 restart doesn't deliver any notifications anymore on commandline?
[09:43] <kLOs> on 14.04 i got an [OK}
[09:43] <mcphail> MacroMan: aah - so you're using a debian/ubuntu source tree and tweaking the built components?
[09:44] <kLOs> now its nothing even when it fails to reastart
[09:44] <MacroMan> So my install goes like so: `apt-get source nginx`, add `--add-module=etc` to debian/rules and then dpkg-buildpackage -b
[09:44] <nackas123> hi ther
[09:44] <MacroMan> mcphail, So I'm not building entirely from source
[09:45] <MacroMan> I've read stuff about adding my own version number, but I'm not really sure where to start
[09:46] <blackline> hi
[09:47] <mcphail> MacroMan: the key would be to edit the configuration in debian/rules, I think, to change the prefix (and, if you wanted, the package name) so it wouldn't clash with the ubuntu package. But that seems horribly arcane and fragile
[09:48] <MacroMan> Reading this answer seems to indicate I can change the version number with dpkg-dev-el: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/138188/easily-unpack-deb-edit-postinst-and-repack-deb/138190
[09:49] <julie__> ok maybe this will help how to install NVIDIA Corporation MCP67 High Definition Audio driver in Ubuntu
[09:50] <pandaadb> Hi - I am still trying to get screen tearing when scrolling/video under control on my precission 5510. I feel like I have tried everything else and I am now thinking of upgrading the kernel from 4.4 - 4.6. Is that save to do? Could that solve the issue?
[09:51] <mcphail> MacroMan: if you are going to go down the pdkg route, your initial plan to use apt holding would b a better idea
[09:51] <mcphail> *dpkg
[09:52] <mcphail> MacroMan: have you looked at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto#Introduction_to_Holding_Packages ?
[09:53] <MacroMan> mcphail, Yes. tbh it kind of went over my head.
[09:53] <MacroMan> I'm just looking at the deb-reversion program which looks interesting: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man1/deb-reversion.1.html
[09:56] <mcphail> MacroMan: that is still and attempt to defeat the package manager, rather than working with it...#
[09:57] <MacroMan> mcphail, Plus it looks like it'll re-package it again, which seems very wasteful of resources. Thanks for your advice. Think I'll stick with holding the package for now.
[09:58] <mcphail> MacroMan: yes - if you work with deb packages you have to prepare to do things the way dpkg or apt want you to work
[09:58] <mcphail> MacroMan: good luck
[09:58] <MacroMan> mcphail, Thanks.
[09:59] <blackbird1> Hi
[09:59] <blackbird1> I have a bizarre problem in Bash
[10:06] <neurot> blackbird1 just ask
[10:09] <JediMaster> hi guys, I've got a CIFS mount on a server that seems to get disconnected in some way (it's Azure, ugh!) in such a way that if you try and access it in any way (e.g. ls, or even bash autocomplete) that it feezes the terminal, can't ctrl-c etc.
[10:09] <JediMaster> Is there any way to check if the connection has frozen without freezing up the command to check it?
[10:10] <JediMaster> I can recover it by "umount -l" then remounting it, and I want to automate this, but doing a simple test to see if a known file exists freezes
[10:12] <JediMaster> I guess I could run the file check in the background, get the PID, check after a few seconds if it's still running, and remount it if it is
[10:12] <JediMaster> but it's not a very elegant solution =)
[10:13] <mcphail> JediMaster: can you use the same "~." trick one uses with dropped/frozen ssh connections to free the terminal?
[10:21] <JediMaster> mcphail, I'm not aware of that one, what ~. trick is that?
[10:21] <lopa> hi
[10:22] <bstarek> JediMaster, can you give us a better explanation of your issue please
[10:22] <mcphail> JediMaster: If you are on an ssh connection which drops, pressing "<Enter>~." can unfreeze the terminal. Does that work when you are accessing your CIFS mount and the connection drops? Don't know if the magic is purely with ssh
[10:23] <JediMaster> bstarek, CIFS share gets disconnected in some way, causing any access of the share to freeze, e.g. "ls", I want to be able to test if the share has frozen so I can automate a remount
[10:23] <mcphail> JediMaster: having done a bit of googling in the meantime, I suspect there isn't a good workaround for your problem: even the ubuntu documentation comments on the CIFS "black hole"
[10:24] <JediMaster> mcphail, that does sound like an ssh trick rather than terminal related
[10:25] <JediMaster> mcphail, heh, that doesn't surprise me, I think I may just have to try the backgrounded process idea to check if a file exists, if the process doesn't finish in a timely fashion, kill it off and remount
[10:25] <mandla> hi, i long asked for help regarding this error To view this page ensure that Adobe Flash Player version 11.5.0 or greater is installed.
[10:25] <mcphail> JediMaster: yes - even the arch users seem to struggle with this one, and they can generally coax _antything_ into submission ;)
[10:25] <mandla> how do i get adobe flash player installed on Ubuntu 16.04
[10:25] <mandla> :(
[10:26] <bstarek> JediMaster, a workaround would be re-mouting it using "crontab" every X time for example, but that wouldnt "solve" your problem
[10:26] <hateball> mandla: use chromium/chrome with the pepperflash
[10:26] <JediMaster> mandla, have you tried: https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/net-install-flash.html
[10:26] <hateball> mandla: Adobe has dropped Linux support for Flash so the latest npapi (Firefox) version is 11.2
[10:26] <bstarek> JediMaster, Why CIFS? have you tried NFS?
[10:26] <OerHeks> mandla, there is no newer 11.2.202.632ubuntu0.16.04.13
[10:26] <OerHeks> goodluck
[10:28] <JediMaster> bstarek, there are lots of processes that are dependant on it, so forcibly remounting it every X minutes is going to cause even more problems =/
[10:28] <cuaox> hi, anyone can help with this -> http://askubuntu.com/questions/812244/games-freezing-after-some-time-on-steam-audio-works-can-move-coursor-around
[10:29] <mandla> Thanks gentleman
[10:29] <bstarek> JediMaster, remounting it only take a second, your processes wont die
[10:29] <Ben64> JediMaster: you really need to fix the problem instead of trying to hack around it
[10:30] <mandla> Thanks gentlemen
[10:30] <JediMaster> Ben64, the problem is Microsoft Azure, that's not within my fixing abilities =)
[10:31] <Ben64> you don't know that
[10:31] <bstarek> Ben64, TRUE
[10:31] <JediMaster> Ben64, technically I could, by moving away from them, but it's not my choice I'm afraid
[10:31] <Ben64> you don't know that the problem is with azure specifically
[10:31] <Ben64> it could be your end
[10:32] <JediMaster> Ben64, it is, it's a known networking problem
[10:32] <bstarek> JediMaster, So let me try to understand the situation, you are ssh-ing into a linux vm, which is CIFS connected to azure share?
[10:32] <Ben64> source?
[10:33] <bstarek> JediMaster, try to link your azzure share to another VM please
[10:33] <JediMaster> Ben64, Microsoft's networking stack, it's caused a lot of other problems, some to do with the hypervisors
[10:33] <cuaox> so, anyone can help?
[10:33] <cuaox> http://askubuntu.com/questions/812244/games-freezing-after-some-time-on-steam-audio-works-can-move-coursor-around
[10:33] <cuaox> with this?
[10:33] <Ben64> JediMaster: sounds like you're making stuff up
[10:33] <JediMaster> bstarek, we've got about 30 VMs with them, on different hypervisors, in different DCs, with different OSs, all of them experience the problem and various times
[10:34] <blackbird1> !paste
[10:34] <JediMaster> bstarek, yes
[10:34] <bstarek> cuaox, try this https://steamcommunity.com/app/440/discussions/0/46476691351873631/
[10:35] <JediMaster> bstarek, remote VM, on Azure, connecting to Azure CIFS share
[10:35] <Ben64> sounds like you need to contact azure support then
[10:35] <JediMaster> multiple machines, some on Ubuntu, come on (ugh) Centos, different kernel versions, some will work for days without a problem then freeze up until the CIFS share is remounted
[10:36] <JediMaster> Ben64, have done, weeks ago
[10:36] <JediMaster> they haven't come up with a solution yet, so I need a workaround
[10:36] <bstarek> JediMaster, try this http://serverfault.com/questions/622238/linux-cifs-samba-mount-hangs-for-several-minutes
[10:36] <Ben64> stop using them
[10:36] <JediMaster> not my choice
[10:36] <JediMaster> client has prepaid for a year
[10:36] <JediMaster> yeah, I know
[10:38] <blackbird1> neurot, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23081134/  --> $msg become empty just before if [[ $msg =~ ^.*windows.*$ ]]
[10:38] <JediMaster> bstarek, that's an interesting find, a sort of keepalive trick
[10:39] <bstarek> JediMaster, it looks like your azure share disconnects randomly
[10:40] <JediMaster> yeah, it could well be inactivity, but there are certainly machines that aren't actively using it that don't get disconnected after long periods, so not 100% convinced it will work
[10:40] <JediMaster> The fact is we're only getting 5-10Mbps of bandwidth to the share, so it really sucks anyhow
[10:41] <bstarek> thats very low
[10:41] <JediMaster> yeah, especially from an Azure VM to Azure share
[10:41] <JediMaster> I have a feeling it's not even in the same country
[10:42] <JediMaster> either that or it's seriously over-subscribed
[10:42] <JediMaster> or both
[10:42] <bstarek> not being in the same country does not bother
[10:42] <JediMaster> Azure feels like a beta test to me
[10:42] <JediMaster> bstarek, well it reduces the likelyhood of it having multiple 10Gbps pipes to the hypervisors
[10:43] <bstarek> personnaly i don't know anyone (except you) on Azure cloud
[10:43] <JediMaster> which our own SAN has (4x 10GBps)
[10:43] <JediMaster> bstarek, there's a good reason for that =)
[10:44] <JediMaster> trouble is, people hear "Microsoft" and go "Oh I've heard of them, lets spend lots there, I'm sure it'll work"
[10:44] <bstarek> JediMaster, I feel like they rushed it :)
[10:44] <JediMaster> they did
[10:44] <Ben64> well, none of this is Ubuntu support, there is ##azure with 11 people in there if you want to talk about Azure
[10:44] <bstarek> JediMaster, I know that Amazon is doing well with its AWS
[10:45] <bstarek> JediMaster, I know people happy with their services/uptime
[10:45] <JediMaster> Ben64, no, but my original question was, in Ubuntu, how do you check to see if a file mount is responsive without freezing up the check
[10:45] <bstarek> JediMaster, look, try to connect your CIFS share to a VM outside Azure
[10:45] <Ben64> JediMaster: and the answer is to fix the problem, not find a hack
[10:46] <JediMaster> Ben64, I think we've established there's no easy way to do that, so hack is the only option at the moment
[10:46] <bstarek> Ben64, we are all trying to help and investigate my fiend.
[10:46] <Ben64> JediMaster: no, you've already given up
[10:46] <JediMaster> Ben64, it's lack of time, it needs a fix now, not a several month investgiation (which will likely happen after so that is is properly fixed)
[10:47] <Ben64> fix now = stop using azure
[10:47] <bstarek> JediMaster, as i told you earlier, connect your share to another vm outisde azure
[10:48] <JediMaster> Ben64, the project has taken 6 months to set up (not by myself, we've been given it to support), it goes live this week, so hence quick fix required. It's not actually critical to stop things going live, it's just causing minor problems, but don't have the time to move the entire project to another platform (which I have already suggested)
[10:48] <JediMaster> bstarek, we may well do, but again, it's pre-paid for a year =/
[10:49] <Ben64> i think bstarek suggested that as a test
[10:49] <bstarek> JediMaster, it is just for test
[10:49] <bstarek> Ben64, thanks
[10:49] <JediMaster> Ah ok, that's a good idea, at least we can show that it's not the OS doing it
[10:49] <bstarek> JediMaster, maybe your VM is the problem, not the share
[10:50] <JediMaster> bstarek, we've not completely eliminated that, but given multiple VMs, OSs & Hypervisors and the same problem it's likely that it isn't that
[10:51] <bstarek> JediMaster, give logs and report it to azure support
[10:51] <JediMaster> yeah, still doesn't get the problem resolved this week though heh
[10:51] <bstarek> maybe it will
[10:52] <bstarek> what choices do you have?
[10:52] <Ben64> maybe continuing to do nothing will fix it then
[10:52] <JediMaster> write a script that will reconnect once every 2-3 days that is falls over
[10:52] <JediMaster> that seems like a pretty quick fix
[10:52] <JediMaster> s/fix/workaround/
[10:53] <JediMaster> Ben64, I'm not, I've reported the problem and I am actively writing a script to auto reconnect as a temporary workaround, hence the question in the first place =)
[10:54] <JediMaster> bstarek, I'll try the keepalive idea and connecting to an external CIFS mount as a test in the meanwhile
[10:54] <Ben64> http://i.imgur.com/6Q6dx5t.png
[10:54] <blackbird1> Guys I need your help for this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/23081160/
[10:55] <JediMaster> So, on a completely unrelated note, how do you test if a mount is responding without freezing the test/script up? =)
[10:56] <blackbird1> This my problem: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23081162/
[10:56] <geirha> blackbird1: msg probably contains some whitespace, possibly CRs
[10:57] <geirha> blackbird1: run the script with -x to see what it is actually comparing
[10:57] <bstarek> JediMaster, Just "touch file" and rm file for example
[10:57] <geirha> blackbird1: e.g.  bash -x yourscript   or  put  ''set -x'' on a line before the part you want to debug
[10:57] <MacroMan> Is there an environment variable I can use in a bash script to get the current user?
[10:57] <bstarek> MacroMan, w
[10:57] <MacroMan> w?
[10:57] <bstarek> yes, w
[10:57] <JediMaster> bstarek, trouble is that "touch" will freeze up
[10:57] <bstarek> LOL
[10:58] <MacroMan> Just w? That's easy
[10:58] <bstarek> hit "w" in terminal
[10:58] <bstarek> MacroMan, yes easy :)
[10:58] <MacroMan> ha. Didn't know that one
[10:58] <MacroMan> Thanks
[10:58] <bstarek> MacroMan, welcome
[10:58] <JediMaster> also gives you uptime and load too
[10:58] <JediMaster> w is great =)
[10:59] <geirha> MacroMan: the USER environment variable also holds your username. printf '%s\n' "$USER"
[11:00] <bstarek> geirha, yes would more useful in a script
[11:00] <bstarek> geirha, thanks
[11:02] <blackbird1> geirha, for "xyz" the $msg is equal to + msg=$'xyz\r'
[11:02] <blackbird1> I need to remove \r
[11:03] <geirha> blackbird1: Right, a CR, so did you read it from a text file generated on windows, perhaps?
[11:03] <geirha> blackbird1: anyway,  msg=${msg%$'\r'}
[11:03] <geirha> removes a trailing CR if there is one
[11:03] <blackbird1> It from irc server response when someone write in the channel
[11:04] <JediMaster> Thanks for the help bstarek
[11:04] <blackbird1> geirha, this is the regex: if [[ $holeMatch =~ ^:(.*)!~.*PRIVMSG.*:(.*)$ ]]
[11:04] <bstarek> JediMaster, welcome anytime
[11:04] <geirha> blackbird1: ok, and you parse that with a while read loop? then putting CR in IFS should do as well
[11:04] <blackbird1> msg=${BASH_REMATCH[2]}
[11:04] <geirha> blackbird1: while IFS=$'\r' read -r line; do ...; done
[11:05] <MacroMan> geirha, Thanks. That's more helpful in my situation.
[11:09] <djugashvili> hey, under ubuntu /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_max_freq says my max frequency is 2,5GHz, however i know the cpu can do 3,2Ghz
[11:10] <hateball> djugashvili: What's the output of "lscpu" ?
[11:10] <k1l> djugashvili: do you mean the "turbo" frequency?
[11:10] <djugashvili> k1l: yes hateball one sec
[11:11] <djugashvili> hateball: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23081194/
[11:13] <k1l> djugashvili: 2,5 is the base frequency. the 3,2ghz is only used by the turbo if the temperatures are not too high etc.
[11:14] <mementomori> hi
[11:14] <djugashvili> k1l:  i know but when i run stress it does not go up at all
[11:15] <mementomori> what's the way to open a folder window from the gnoe terminal?
[11:15] <mementomori> I usually do 'start .' from cmd when in windows
[11:15] <mementomori> s/gnoe/gnome
[11:17] <hateball> mementomori: "xdg-open ."
[11:17] <k1l> mementomori: nautilus /path/to/folder
[11:17] <hateball> would be one way
[11:17] <k1l> better use alt+f2 for that
[11:18] <mementomori> hateball, thanks!
[11:19] <venkat_330> How blackist a specific usbserial device for loading driver ( 0403:6014)
[11:20] <hateball> mementomori: xdg-open is neat, because it will open with your standard app, regardless if you point to a folder or a file or whatever
[11:20] <hateball> mementomori: like xdg-open some.pdf
[11:23] <blackbird1> geirha, Is it possible with sed ? --> echo $holeMatch | sed 's/[\r|\n]+$//g'
[11:23] <blackbird1> the "\r" or "\n" or "\r\n" is always in the end.
[11:23] <geirha> blackbird1: that would be rather overkill. I've shown you two ways to do it with bash; why complicate things with sed?
[11:25] <geirha> holeMatch=${holeMatch%$'\r'}  though I'd recommned stripping the CRs as you read it in instead
[11:27] <speedy__> hello
[11:28] <blackbird1> Thanks geirha it works, for my knowledge, how to do it with sed ? :)
[11:29] <djugashvili> ok i got back to using the intel pstate andi  get the desired frequency range
[11:29] <djugashvili> however i can't change the governor to perforamnce
[11:29] <djugashvili> there are two governors available with pstate: powersave and perfdormance
[11:30] <djugashvili> performance*
[11:30] <djugashvili> and i can't set performance
[11:33] <akshaystore> iam just looking to upgrade ubuntu
[11:33] <Ben64> akshaystore: from what to what
[11:34] <akshaystore> 15.04 to 16.04
[11:34] <Ben64> !eolupgrade | akshaystore
[11:34] <Ben64> you got two of those to go through
[11:35] <k1l> akshaystore: make the EOL upgrade to 15.10. then the regular upgrade to 16.04 should work.
[11:35] <k1l> in future stay on LTS releases if you dont like to upgrade every 6 months.
[11:40] <dymsani> ?
[11:41] <venkat_330> _l_k_z_m: How to blackist a specific usbserial device for loading driver ( 0403:6014)
[11:44] <enzo> ciao a tutti
[11:45] <discovered> After editing sudoers i can't run any application as sudo. I have added %sudo ALL=NOPASSWD: /path/to/script . Now i don't have any other users too
[11:45] <Guest91273> qualche bella coppia?
[11:46] <hateball> !it | Guest91273
[11:47] <Guest91273> join
[11:48] <Guest91273> ma in italiano niente?
[11:49] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[11:49] <joelio> afternoon :)
[11:50] <BluesKaj> :-)
[11:51] <spartan2276> how can I enable the use of .htaccess in apache2?
[11:51] <Ben64> it's already enabled
[11:51] <geirha> blackbird1: see http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/052
[11:52] <geirha> BluesKaj: oh nevermind, I seem to remember it also showing a way with sed. Anyway:  sed $'s/\r$//'
[11:52] <scottc1> spartan2276: Controlled by the AllowOverride directive
[11:52] <spartan2276> I already created the .htaccess files within the web app root, however I was reading the apache docs and it says that I have to set AllowOveride which is set to none to allow but it is not working
[11:53] <scottc1> spartan2276: none disables .htaccess files
[11:53] <Ben64> spartan2276: any errors in the apache log?
[11:53] <spartan2276> scottcl right but when I set it to allow apache freaks out
[11:54] <scottc1> spartan2276: use either All or one of the directive types
[11:54] <scottc1> spartan2276: Freaks out how?
[11:54] <Ben64> because you didn't look up what AllowOverride options are
[11:54] <Ben64> https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/mod/core.html#allowoverride
[11:56] <zetheroo> I am trying to resize an encrypted disk partition in 16.04 - has any one had experience/success with this?
[11:56] <lordcirth> zetheroo, have backups first, please
[11:57] <zetheroo> lordcirth: I am testing this out on a VM that's just here for this purpose alone ;)
[11:57] <lordcirth> zetheroo, I assume by resize you mean expand?
[11:57] <zetheroo> lordcirth: either way, but yes, in practice it would be mostly for expanding
[11:57] <lordcirth> zetheroo, first you expand the partition, then the LUKS, then the filesystem - basically lower layer first, going up
[11:58] <lordcirth> shrinking is the reverse
[11:58] <deanoman> going to have someone help me with my 16.04 vm and am trying to work out a way to be able to see what was modified durning the time they are on the server. Google came back with numerous find articles but they all seem to be lacking. Im after what was added/modified in all directories in a within a certain time frame is that possible?
[11:58] <spartan2276> scottcl so if you go to this site http://beta.accureports.com you'll get a 400 Bad request error. I'm trying to fix that
[11:58] <zetheroo> lordcirth: ok
[11:59] <frostschutz> zetheroo, LUKS only needs 'cryptsetup resize' if you manage to resize while LUKS is open. if you reboot in between LUKS just uses whatever the size of the blockdevice is
[11:59] <Ben64> deanoman: kind of. the data isn't 100% reliable though
[11:59] <reddsik> >1940 total
[11:59] <reddsik> oww
[11:59] <lordcirth> deanoman, tripwire or similar security tools can watch for malware or tampering, inotify can show you what files were accessed
[11:59] <reddsik> so many n00bs
[11:59] <zetheroo> lordcirth: does this look like it would work with 16.04? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ResizeEncryptedPartitions
[12:00] <spartan2276> scottcl so I created a .htaccess file in the root of the web application so that if you don't use https it redirects you to it
[12:00] <frostschutz> zetheroo, so when growing LUKS you can just make the partition larger, then resize2fs once you're booted into the system. when shrinking you have to keep in mind that LUKS eats 2MiB for its header, so if you shrink the filesystem to 100G, the partition needs to be 100G+2MiB in size
[12:00] <spartan2276> scottcl however that is an epic fail as it is not working
[12:01] <lordcirth> frostschutz, the guide has LUKS resize commands too, it's not automatic
[12:02] <hateball> spartan2276: why not use http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/RedirectSSL ?
[12:02] <Ben64> spartan2276: pastebin the htaccess
[12:02] <zetheroo> frostschutz: and growing LUKS is done from a LiveCD session?
[12:02] <scottc1> spartan2276: Just out of curiosity - I take it you have access to the Apache config if you are able to change AllowOverride etc. Why are you using .htaccess?
[12:02] <spartan2276> yes
[12:02] <scottc1> spartan2276: However as others have said, could we see your .htaccess please
[12:03] <deanoman> lordcirth thanks
[12:03] <frostschutz> zetheroo, usually changing partitions is done from a livecd in case you have to move stuff around. if you know what you're doing - you can do it from within the system itself
[12:04] <frostschutz> zetheroo, if you can paste some info about your specific situation maybe we can give more specific advice. show your 'sudo parted /dev/disk unit mib print free' / 'sudo lsblk' and tell what you want to resize how
[12:04] <spartan2276> Ben64 http://paste.ubuntu.com/23081366/
[12:04] <zetheroo> frostschutz: and what about the LVM part of the disk setup? I ask because it seems with 16.04 that you cannot encrypt your disk without LVm being selected as well
[12:05] <spartan2276> scottcl http://paste.ubuntu.com/23081366/
[12:06] <spartan2276> as you guys can see is very straight forward as all I'm looking to do is an overall site redirect
[12:08] <frostschutz> zetheroo, then it depends if it's LUKS on LVM, or LVM on LUKS. With LUKS on LVM, that's where cryptsetup resize comes in, if you grow the LV that LUKS is on, and don't want to reboot/reopen the LUKS, use cryptsetup resize to make LUKS realize the LV changed size
[12:08] <spartan2276> scottcl I do have access to the config but I'm not just running apache/php. It is an apache/coldfusion setup so it is a pain in the A
[12:08] <frostschutz> zetheroo, with LVM on LUKS, you just ... reboot and pvresize and then lvresize, resize2fs
[12:09] <fishCode> spartan2276, what does the https off bit do
[12:09] <zetheroo> frostschutz: I don't know which way it's done ... its whatever way Ubuntu does it by default I suppose
[12:09] <spartan2276> scottcl so I rather not mess with it and go the safe route
[12:11] <Ben64> would be easier to do it in the conf like someone linked to earlier
[12:11] <spartan2276> fishCode it checks to see if the user is coming from non https, meaning if the user types http:// it will redirect them to https://
[12:11] <frostschutz> zetheroo, I suppose it's LVM on LUKS. lsblk will show you clearly
[12:12] <Ben64> spartan2276: fairly sure you have a few syntax problems in there
[12:12] <Ben64> your apache log should tell you
[12:13] <spartan2276> Ben64 oh I don't doubt that but I can't even get that file to be called
[12:13] <Ben64> what does the apache log say
[12:15] <spartan2276> Ben64 mixing * ports and non-* ports with a NameVirtualHost address is not supported
[12:15] <Ben64> thats a conf problem, you haven't even gotten to the htaccess yet
[12:16] <spartan2276> Ben64 that is the last entry on my log, which is why I'm saying that I can't even get the .htaccess file going
[12:16] <Ben64> so fix your conf
[12:17] <spartan2276> Ben64 I tried setting the AllowOverride to all within the site virtual host
[12:18] <spartan2276> but no Dice
[12:18] <Ben64> cool. but that doesn't fix the error you pasted
[12:22] <spartan2276> Ben64 yes I know, if I knew how to fix it I would not be asking for help. sometimes the documentation for apache is not very straight forward and the ubuntu docs are very simple just enough to get you started
[12:22] <Ben64> you're too focused on the https thing when you don't even have it working at all
[12:23] <Ben64> what is this apache to be used for?
[12:24] <spartan2276> Ben64 thanks anayways, been up all night trying to fix this issue. For now the site is up only working on https so at least is secure(somewhat).
[12:24] <Netek> if during an installation of an app via ssh and disconnection occurs, does the system carry on installing the app?
[12:25] <spartan2276> Ben64 I also just realized that I'm running Apache 2.2 which is said to have bugs with this non-ssl thing
[12:34] <cuaox> hi guys its me again
[12:34] <cuaox> can you help me a bi
[12:34] <cuaox> t
[12:35] <cuaox> I have the problem of freezing X when i run 3d games
[12:35] <cuaox> but- i cant check the error log because i have to restart my pc when this freeze occurs
[12:35] <cuaox> is there any way logs of crash/freeze are saved so i can view them later?
[12:36] <nexusguy59> Good morning guys
[12:36] <nexusguy59> and ladies lol
[12:38] <Ben64> cuaox: check in /var/log
[12:38] <cuaox> Ben64: which log should i check and for what should i look for?
[12:38] <Ben64> cuaox: also, see what happens if you have an ssh session going on when the crash happens, you might still be able to do stuff
[12:38] <Ben64> all the logs, anything around the time of the problem
[12:39] <cuaox> I have no other pc i could log in to this one from
[12:39] <Ben64> could be a phone
[12:40] <cuaox> okay lets say it freezes and i have ssh connection with a phone, what should i do? (im total newb with those things sorry for such questions)
[12:41] <Ben64> well if you can still do things on the terminal, then it's not actually crashed
[12:44] <Johnynasndfnas> Anyone using Blocks IDE on ubuntu? mine keeps crashing all the time on 16.04 for some reason
[12:44] <tomreyn> tomreyn
[12:44] <AzraelEnki> cuaox, if you're local then you can use the 'keyboard test' press the numlock, if the led changes, it didn't crash the kernel.
[12:44] <tomreyn> sorry
[12:45] <tomreyn> whenever i power up my computer (running xubuntu 16.04), audio goes to the headphones (whether or not they are plugged in). but i need it to go to line out by default. where can i configure this?
[12:46] <zetheroo> lately when I plug a USB disk into my PC and try to copy a file to it I am told 'Permission Denied' - even though my user owns the disk and I can create folders on it
[12:52] <Jagst3r15> hey if I am on php5 on ubuntu 15.10 server and i upgrade to 16.04 will php5 be removed??
[12:53] <ikonia> there isn't a PHP5 package is there ? it's the php meta package which points at 7
[12:53] <ikonia> there is a PHP5 package for 16.04 but I think it comes from a lower priority repo, or maybe even a 3rd party ppa - but I think it's multiverse or something like that
[12:54] <Jagst3r15> ikonia i just hit the upgrade button and it says welcome to ubuntu 16.04
[12:54] <Jagst3r15> and php -v says PHP 5.6.11-1ubuntu3.4 (cli)
[12:54] <ikonia> interesting
[12:54] <Jagst3r15> so i guess it leaves that package!?
[12:54] <ikonia> do apt-cache policy php
[12:55] <Jagst3r15> hmm it says   Installed: (none)   Candidate: 1:7.0+35ubuntu6
[12:55] <ere> Hello
[12:55] <ikonia> Jagst3r15: have you rebooted after the upgrade ?
[12:56] <CDuv> Hello
[12:56] <Jagst3r15_> sorry lost connection
[12:57] <Jagst3r15_> ikonia yea i rebooted
[12:57] <CDuv> Hello
[12:57] <Jagst3r15_> still says 5.6 when i do php -v
[12:57] <ere> Hello CDuv
[12:57] <ikonia> Jagst3r15_: pastebin dpkg -l | grep php please
[12:57] <CDuv> Upgraded from Ubuntu 14.04 to 16.04.1 and I have issue with EncFs volumes: cannot double-click to open files :-/
[13:06] <Guest0809> who Lego
[13:07] <Guest0809> quit
[13:08] <MacroMan> I'm trying to create and publish a gpg key, but my passwords gui doesn't seem to work. Can I create a publish it via terminal?
[13:08] <cfhowlett> !gpg
[13:09] <MacroMan> cfhowlett, Thanks
[13:09] <cfhowlett> happy2help!
[13:14] <Jagst3r15_> ikonia http://pastebin.com/VdTkt1sa
[13:14] <fishCode> anyone have experience with installing and uninstalling python3 modules?
[13:15] <fishCode> i installed a python module using python3 setup.py install
[13:15] <cfhowlett> fishCode, don't waste bandwidth with "anyone?" questions.  state YOUR issues and specs
[13:15] <fishCode> it created what looks like reference/library folders
[13:16] <fishCode> inside of my project folder in my home directory
[13:17] <fishCode> i did not want those in my home directory so i deleted the folders and put the module in a better location. i tried to install the module again to re-write the paths etc... but it is looking for a file in my home directory that isnt there
[13:17] <fishCode> from the traceback: FileNotFoundError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/home/fishcode/.python_hue'
[13:17] <fishCode> why is it looking for the module in my home directory?
[13:18] <Jagst3r15_> ikonia did u get that?
[13:18] <fishCode> not even the directory that i installed the module from either time
[13:18] <discovered> Hi, I am trying make deb package from Oracle JDK using make-jpkg. But it is giving me error: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23081609/ . I need help!
[13:19] <discovered> The simple command i used "make-jpkg jdk-8u101-linux-x64.tar.gz" ...
[13:20] <discovered> Am i doing anything wrong?
[13:20] <cfhowlett> !packaging
[13:21] <Jagst3r15_> well..does anyone else know why php5 is still on my server after upgrading from 15.10 to 16.04? is that normal
[13:23] <AzraelEnki> Live boot cd: I've downloaded the iso for the server but how can I boot the live cd without it asking to install it? or do I need to use the desktop iso?
[13:24] <cfhowlett> AzraelEnki, server doesn't have a "try ubuntu" option, but desktop does
[13:26] <filsuf> hallo hallo ... Im gonna dual boot win 10 and linux ... WHICH ONE should we install first?
[13:26] <cfhowlett> windows
[13:26] <filsuf> ru also dual booting cfhowlett
[13:27] <cfhowlett> win7
[13:27] <filsuf> ic
[13:27] <filsuf> do you know if we can install win 10 WITHOUT EFI or UEFI partition?
[13:28] <cfhowlett> pretty sure win10 will demand efi
[13:28] <filsuf> is there a way NOT TO ALLOCATE a partition for that?
[13:28] <L3gacy> Hail
[13:29] <cfhowlett> !efi | filsuf
[13:29] <AzraelEnki> cfhowlett, thanks I´ll download the desktop version. It´s for a network (pxe/bootp/tftp) boot.
[13:30] <cfhowlett> azizLIGHT, easy enough to add the server utilities if you need
[13:31] <filsuf> do we need that "healthy recovery" partition?
[13:31] <multifractal_> I'm trying to get a L2TP/IPSec VPN client working in 14.04 following this: https://github.com/nm-l2tp/network-manager-l2tp
[13:31] <multifractal_> Can't find 'libnma' with apt-get
[13:32] <cfhowlett> filsuf, I nuked my windows partition, so can not reset to factory fresh settings.
[13:32] <cfhowlett> and you DO have your windows 10 restore USB right?  RIGHT?
[13:33] <filsuf> I dont see any reason I will ever restore this to factory default
[13:33] <filsuf> why would you if you could clean install it?
[13:34] <huesaurus> micro$oft is eval
[13:34] <huesaurus> lunix is the future of desktops
[13:37] <multifractal_> How can I get this libnm and libnma things???
[13:39] <tekisui> thanks for suggesting to put nice on -20
[13:39] <tekisui> hoped it be effective way to clean the pc :D
[13:39] <tekisui> at least know it works !
[13:39] <tekisui> (:
[13:40] <filsuf> I can just dd those "recovery" partition I guess
[13:41] <filsuf> but I still dont really see the point
[13:42] <gr33nbits> heias, just got back from 4.4.0-42 to 4.4.0-34 with the last update, what happened?
[13:42] <multifractal_> How can I get this "libnm" and "libnma" dependency? apt-get doesn't find them.
[13:42] <gr33nbits> i mean lts 14.04
[13:43] <geirha> gr33nbits: of what?
[13:44] <gr33nbits> my kernel got back on the last ubuntu 14.04 lts update that i just got
[13:45] <cfhowlett> that's not how it works, gr33nbits.  if you are seeing an old kernel instead of the new kernel either you don't have the new kernel or you manually selected the old kernel.  reboot, choose advanced options at grub, and select
[13:45] <gr33nbits> was a weird popup to start with and had but legit, "Install" or "Accept"
[13:45] <AzraelEnki> multifractal_, I´m guessing here: NetworkManager Applet. I *think* it supposed to install libnma.so, if I googled it correctly.
[13:46] <gr33nbits> cfhowlett 4.4.0-42 well it's not there anymore
[13:46] <cfhowlett> gr33nbits, sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[13:46] <k1l> gr33nbits: what is the output of "lsb_release -sd"?
[13:46] <mihael_k33hl> When opening Google Chrome or Firefox, ubuntu seems to be having a very high CPU usage. I'm running Ubuntu 16.04
[13:46] <gr33nbits> will that bring me to 16.04
[13:47] <cfhowlett> of course not.
[13:47] <sveinse> I'm setting up nfs4 (for the the first time in 15 years) on 16.04. I get the share up and running, but it is not squashing how I expect it to (it does not squash at all). What could I be doing wrong?
[13:47] <multifractal_> AzraelEnki So what do I do?
[13:47] <gr33nbits> okis doing it, thanks a bunch
[13:48] <gr33nbits> k1l 14.04.5 LTS
[13:50] <helloNL> am trying to set up an ubuntu 16.04 server for self use and I want to set up test.domain.com and domain.com, On test.domain.com I want my PHPstorm to auto upload to it and domain.com to pull from a git repo
[13:50] <k1l> gr33nbits: make sure "linux-generic-lts-xenial" is installed
[13:50] <helloNL> How would I do this?
[13:50] <cfhowlett> helloNL, sounds like a question best asked in #ubuntu-server
[13:50] <Trieste> Hi, I'm having issues with graphics on my Acer Aspire One. The netbook has a broken LCD screen, but a working VGA output - however, I can't seem to set the correct resolution. xrandr only sees "default" as the only output, and when I add a mode and set it to the device, I get "xrandr: Configure crtc 0 failed". Any ideas?
[13:51] <gr33nbits> k1l okis i will thanks, not a big deal just weird tho
[13:51] <k1l> gr33nbits: and there never was a 4.4.0-42 kernel in the xenial lts stack. so either you mix some numbers or you got some 3rd party kernels running
[13:51] <helloNL> Oh thanks cfhowlett thought it was a one place to go to channel :P
[13:52] <cfhowlett> !server | helloNL
[13:52] <evalde> I've been having quite a few problems with my Ubuntu MATE machine ever since I installed the OS two days ago. Could I run some questions by you guys?
[13:53] <multifractal_> I don't kow what to do, this Network Manager thing needs libnm and libnma to install, but apt-get can't find them
[13:54] <AzraelEnki> multifractal_, I´m also new, can you explain what you did to need it? (You installed/used something and it needed those libraries.) Anyways, there is a program that is missing those libraries. How did that program get there? Did you compile it, etc... ?
[13:54] <multifractal_> AzraelEnki this is at the stage of configuring. Not installed yet.
[13:54] <gr33nbits> k1l yeah just checked the repo's and i do have one that might had done that
[13:55] <multifractal_> This, I guess. http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libnm-dev How do I install it?
[13:55] <multifractal_> apt-get install doesn't find anything called libnm-dev or libnma-dev
[13:55] <AzraelEnki> Could you give the name of the program? I´ll try to install it locally and see what happens
[13:55] <k1l> multifractal_: what is the output of "lsb_release -sd"?
[13:56] <multifractal_> 14.04
[13:56] <evalde> 1. When I shut my laptop and let it go to sleep then log back in, my wifi stays connected but the logo in the top right goes to empty and nothing is listed when i click the logo. 2. When I shut my laptop to let it sleep then login again, the URL bar of chromium will totally glitch out flashing black making it unusable. 3. It is taking a long time to open up programs and even files like my "home" after double clicking
[13:56] <evalde> on them. a few seconds at least.      Both problems 1 and 2 are reset/fixed on startup, 3 is constant.
[13:56] <k1l> multifractal_: there is no -dev package for 14.04. that is why.
[13:56] <mihael_k33hl> my laptop doesn't automatically lock when the lid is closed
[13:56] <k1l> multifractal_: what are you trying to install at all?
[13:57] <multifractal_> k11 http://blog.z-proj.com/enabling-l2tp-over-ipsec-on-ubuntu-16-04/
[13:57] <k1l> multifractal_: that is for 16.04. that cant work on 14.04
[13:57] <evalde> I have also tried reinstalling chromium, there was no change.
[13:58] <multifractal_> k11 So what can I do to get this L2TP/IPsec VPN option? This seems like the hardest thing ever to do on 14.04 for some reason.
[13:58] <multifractal_> Goddamn. I need to update to 16.04 now?
[13:59] <k1l> multifractal_: well, install l2tp-ipsec-vpn?
[14:04] <sveinse> How can I ensure nfs4 squash the uid into a single uid? My 16.04 nfs server is unresponsive to the all_squash and root_squash option
[14:07] <AzraelEnki> sveinse, I got the same question. I know there´s idmapd...
[14:08] <sveinse> I thought that the 'all_squash' would ensure that files with UID 0 were not presented as 0 to the clients, but they are!
[14:08] <multifractal_> k1l: OK I installed that, then I go to network settings, try to create a new VPN and it only gives me the option PPTP.
[14:11] <Guest10925> hi
[14:12] <regedit> is there a super easy for noobs no-config install-and-use VPN application? I remember using something like that on Windows to browse from other IPs/countries
[14:14] <scottc1> regedit: What type of VPN? SSL? IPsec? PPTP *shudders*
[14:15] <regedit> scottc1: just to perform ssh operations (connect to some remote host via ssh) but not directly from my own workstation
[14:16] <regedit> for odd reasons my ISP is still looking into, i cant seem to connect directly to that host
[14:16] <regedit> ssh: Could not resolve hostname codeserver.dev.<REDACTED>.drush.in: Name or service not known
[14:18] <Trieste> Hi, I'm having issues with graphics on my Acer Aspire One. The netbook has a broken LCD screen, but a working VGA output - however, I can't seem to set the correct resolution. xrandr only sees "default" as the only output, and when I add a mode and set it to the device, I get "xrandr: Configure crtc 0 failed". Any ideas?
[14:19] <AzraelEnki> regedit, do you know the ip address of that server?
[14:22] <regedit> AzraelEnki: i had it on my other laptop... lemme see if i can find it...
[14:23] <sarek> Im trying to figure out a way to select a random image from a directory and give it the same name every time in the new directory. '#!/bin/sh cd /home/me/public_html/dev/img/banners ls |sort -R |tail -$N |while read file; do cp -rf /home/me/public_html/dev/img/banners/new/banner.png done' gives me 'cp: missing destination file operand after
[14:23] <sarek> ‘/home/varmag/public_html/dev/img/banners/new/banner.png’'
[14:25] <adrian_1908> hello. I installed the `libwxgtk3.0-dev` package to work with wxWidgets. However I can't seem to find the header files on my system (the header package has been installed automatically as a dependency). Any idea?
[14:26] <AzraelEnki> regedit, don´t type the ip address here, but try to ping it. (assuming the server isn´t paranoid and drops icmp packets) did you get a response?\
[14:32] <joelio> sarek: the error message is correct, you've not passed a destination path ... cp {source} {target}. If you want it in current working dir, just put a .
[14:32] <sarek> Whoops
[14:33] <regedit> AzraelEnki: yes i can ping the IP, just the domain name doesnt resolve from my internet connection (it does just fine from others, still investigating with ISP)
[14:33] <adrian_1908> problem solved, was in /usr/include/wx-3.0/wx/...
[14:33] <scottc1> regedit: The error says that it can't resolve the hostname...are you using your ISPs DNS servers? Have you tested using another DNS provider?
[14:33] <sarek> I but I want it to copy the randomly selected file from the first command
[14:33] <regedit> scottc1: how do i do that?
[14:34] <scottc1> regedit: Override it in your hosts file maybe?
[14:34] <regedit> oh so i just manually map the domain name to the IP in my hosts file?
[14:34] <scottc1> regedit: Not pleasant but it will work if the issue is down to DNS resolution
[14:35] <regedit> hm i see ok lemme try that
[14:37] <scottc1> regedit: Either change it in the device that handles your DHCP or, which is probably preferable, you could change your network config to be DHCP addresses only and then put in a different DNS server...say OpenDNS or Google DNS....as a test. However you may want to look into them to address any privacy concerns you may have before doing so.
[14:37] <Deltanic> i'm not sure if this is an issue exclusive to vagrant, but maybe someone here knows whats happening: when running ubuntu/xenial64 on vagrant, im getting some kind log file named `ubuntu-xenial-16.04-cloudimg-console.log` - anyone any idea why that happens?
[14:39] <sveinse> With systemd/journalctl where does nfs-kernel-server debug output end up? journalctl -f -u nfs-kernel-server is empty :(
*sigh* I can't find anything related to services anymore when systemd has been introduced. I have to learn it all over.</rant>
[14:46] <wahh> test
[14:46] <ruby32> hi, just installed ubuntu on my macbook pro... trying to use the system settings to change "Move window to workspace 2" ...
[14:47] <ruby32> when I press super+shift+2 it binds it as super+shift+@
[14:47] <scottc1> Deltanic: I presume it just logs the console output so you can see what's happened when booting with it being 'headless'
[14:47] <ruby32> unsurprisingly, it doesn't work
[14:48] <ruby32> where can i find the keybindings so i can edit them manually?
[14:48] <ruby32> typing them in doesn't seem to work. also, i can't bind anything with the <Alt> key either using the GUI
[14:48] <ruby32> it simply doesn't register the key combo
[14:48] <epoc> oo
[14:49] <dancingdemon__> hey guys, when trying to run some application .exe in VM windows 8, I keep on getting MSVCP140.dll is missing, I searched and it said that I need to download vc++ visual and i did but it still shows there error..
[14:50] <dancingdemon__> I have windows 8 x64 running in VMplayer, also when i did  run regsvr32 msvcp140.
[14:51] <dancingdemon__> it says :  the module msvcp140.dll was loaded but entry-point DllRegisterServer
[14:51] <dancingdemon__> any idea ?
[14:51] <dancingdemon__> it says :  the module msvcp140.dll was loaded but entry-point DllRegisterServer was not found **
[14:51] <ballison> hi - does anyone know if there's a way to connect to a L2TP VPN using Ubuntu but configure it from the gui (read: Configure VPN connections gui) ?
[14:52] <ballison> i'm trying to set up someone who's remote and having them VI 10+ files it too much.  especially when there's a gui for configuring VPN connections.
[14:52] <ballison> but I can't find a L2TP option in the VPN connection gui
[14:56] <ballison> i have no l2tp tab under Editing VPN connection
[14:58] <ballison> E: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/werner-jaeger/ppa-werner-vpn/ubuntu/dists/xenial/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[15:00] <goju050207> Hi..I need help..
[15:02] <DJones> ballison: Looking at that ppa, there isn't a version for xenial which is why it gives not found errors
[15:02] <scottc1> goju050207: Hi, just ask :)
[15:03] <DJones> ballison: Doesn't look like its been updated since Raring
[15:03] <genii> ballison: The last update on that PPA was 170 weeks ago. Which is a long time.
[15:03] <goju050207> I am using Ubuntu 16.04 LTS but unable to visit my bank website to do transactions can anybody help. I am using Mozilla Firefox for ununtu 48.0
[15:03] <joelio> ballison: there's l2tp support for network manager somwerhe, but not sure it's that well supported. If it's just for one user, why not use ngrok and openvpn (simpler!) or something as an interim to get them setup
[15:04] <scottc1> ballison: It relies on openswan, which was deprecated in favour of Strongswan
[15:04] <goju050207> I am unable to sit the login page
[15:04] <goju050207> *viit
[15:04] <goju050207> *visit
[15:05] <MonChatEtMerde> test
[15:05] <ceed^> What's the key combo to see all the virtual desktops so I do not have to use the mouse?
[15:05] <ballison> joelio: I prefer openvpn client.  That's what i use at home.   but I think his connection (to a different vpn server) requires L2TP.   I have it set up on my mac to the server he's connecting to, but have to use L2TP to connect to it.
[15:06] <joelio> Well, ssh reverse tunnels and openvpn are a thing ;)
[15:06] <joelio> but yea, understood
[15:06] <ballison> i found this for doing it command line (lot files to edit) --> http://www.jasonernst.com/2016/06/21/l2tp-ipsec-vpn-on-ubuntu-16-04/
[15:07] <ballison> sadly the user is a) a windows user and b) in another country.... you know.. just to make it harder.  :(
[15:07] <joelio> eww, enough said :)
[15:08] <joelio> ballison: there's a kpvnc client too, no idea how good it is, means KDE libs mind
[15:08] <ballison> but he installed ubuntu on his second computer and got kerberos set up... so he's trying.  but without l2tp vpn he's not going to be able to connect to the internal network to use them.
[15:08] <goju050207> Am i facing any popup blocker ?
[15:08] <scottc1> ballison: Have you tried installing network-manager-strongswan?
[15:08] <ballison> joelio: yeah, i saw KVpnc.  installing it now.
[15:09] <milf> hello
[15:10] <ballison> joelio: KVpnc is some sort of wallet app   :(
[15:10] <joelio> ballison: website seems to thing last update was in May 2010 so YMMV!
[15:10] <scottc1> ballison: Nevermind, doesn't seem to work - https://wiki.strongswan.org/issues/1406
[15:10] <john__> #librecad
[15:12] <goju050207> scottc1: I am waiting
[15:13] <scottc1> goju050207: What login page are you referring to? What URL are you visiting?
[15:13] <zoli> hello. i have a kaveri apu 7850k and video playback is not smooth, quite choppy. Can you help me how to fix it?
[15:14] <zoli> escpecially fullscreen
[15:14] <goju050207> https://netbanking.hdfcbank.com/netbanking/?_ga=1.39939114.901858646.1471525813
[15:14] <zoli> and even more with fullhd
[15:14] <idzireit> hello
[15:14] <alazare619> .dontasktoask
[15:14] <idzireit> probably need to be shot for asking again but need help joining a channel (i.e. registering I guess)
[15:14] <alazare619> !dontasktoask
[15:15] <idzireit> trying to join ##c++
[15:15] <skinux> What's the most recommended app for ripping music of CDs?
[15:16] <DJones> skinux: I use soundjuicer
[15:17] <tgm4883> !register | idzireit
[15:17] <DJones> skinux: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CDRipping
[15:18] <idzireit> TY guys ... only second time here on IRC
[15:18] <DJones> skinux: Although not used it for quite a while, so not sure how well it  currently works
[15:19] <ballison> i guess i'm going to have to see about setting up a second VPN and just make it openvpn for Linux users.   no l2tp support is a killer.  :(
[15:21] <sjmunroe_w500>  inet addr:9.10.86.84
[15:21] <ballison> i just installed network-manager-strongswan    trying to figure out what that gave me exactly. :)
[15:22] <scottc1> ballison: Doesn't seem to work with 16.04
[15:23] <scottc1> As in the network manager integration
[15:23] <ballison> scottc1: yeah i couldn't find anything in the gui added from it.
[15:24] <scottc1> ballison: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-strongswan/+bug/1570352
[15:25] <goju050207> scottc1: Did you check the URL ?
[15:27] <scottc1> goju050207: I did, it took a while before it loaded however I was unable to progress further. As a test have you tried another browser such as chromium ?
[15:28] <goju050207> nope
[15:34] <ballison> thanks for your help guys!
[15:45] <milf> hi crayon
[16:10] <mr_lou> I upgrade Ubuntu to 16.04 (JEOS) just now, and experience the mysql issues I can see many others before me has done.....  managed to fix most of it. My last problem is that mysql ignores "UPDATE" sql-commands....   any advice?
[16:10] <_0xbadc0de> hi guys
[16:10] <_0xbadc0de> listen apparently ubuntu 14 allows me to dl and install php5
[16:10] <_0xbadc0de> can I install any of the php5.xx versions
[16:10] <_0xbadc0de> ?
[16:11] <nacc> _0xbadc0de: hrm? php5 is a package
[16:11] <nacc> _0xbadc0de: do you mean php5 versus. php5.6?
[16:11] <_0xbadc0de> which contains a php version
[16:11] <_0xbadc0de> yeah
[16:11] <nacc> _0xbadc0de: those are two different packages
[16:11] <nacc> !info php5 trusty
[16:11] <nacc> !info php5.6 trusty
[16:13] <SchrodingersScat> and when you upgrade to 16.04 it'll just be php7
[16:13] <nacc> SchrodingersScat: correct
[16:13] <nacc> _0xbadc0de: sorry, distracted, what's the other php5 you're seeing in the archive for 14.04?
[16:14] <Smashcat> Anyone know if it's possible to roll-back from 16.04 to 14.04 as the upgrade has screwed up my system?
[16:15] <milf> it is not
[16:15] <nacc> Smashcat: downgrades aren't generally possible like that
[16:15] <_0xbadc0de> where can I download v14?
[16:15] <nacc> _0xbadc0de: what is v14?
[16:15] <fishCode> Smashcat, http://askubuntu.com/questions/49869/how-to-roll-back-ubuntu-to-a-previous-version
[16:15] <_0xbadc0de> ubuntu v14?
[16:15] <_0xbadc0de> ubuntu Desktop v14
[16:16] <Smashcat> nacc: <sigh> thought so - I should have known better than to do an upgrade :) They never work
[16:16] <daily> _0xbadc0de, you mean 14.04?
[16:16] <_0xbadc0de> YES
[16:16] <_0xbadc0de> got damn it, YES
[16:16] <daily> http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/
[16:17] <daily> even Googling "ubuntu v14" yielded that page.
[16:17] <daily> instead of getting mad, try putting in some effort
[16:18] <nacc> or http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop and search for "older versions"
[16:25] <davidak> hello. i want to set the io scheduler on a Ubuntu 16.04 server. has that changed with systemd or is it a bug?
[16:25] <davidak> cat /sys/block/xvda/queue/scheduler
[16:25] <davidak> none
[16:28] <akik> davidak: try if you find it with this "find /sys -name scheduler". it obeys elevator= kernel boot parameter
[16:30] <Rebelnet> so, I can't get Ubuntu to work. Its giving me problems on my chromebook
[16:31] <ksft> Rebelnet: I really doubt anyone can help you without more information.
[16:31] <nacc> davidak: seems odd, works fine for me on a real disk
[16:31] <Rebelnet> I downloaded Crouton, and sudo sh ~/Downloads/crouton -r xenial -t touch,xfce
[16:31] <Rebelnet> it might work now.... i'm installing it right now
[16:32] <akik> nacc: i'm missing that /sys/block/sda completely
[16:32] <akik> nacc: oh it's there
[16:32] <nacc> akik: interesting!
[16:32] <nacc> akik: ah ok, i was going to be a bit worried :)
[16:32] <akik> nacc: tired eyes :(
[16:39] <davidak> akik: i found /sys/devices/vbd-51712/block/xvda/queue/scheduler but it also outputs 'none'
[16:40] <nacc> davidak: almost certainly that's a symlink (/sys/block/xvda -> /sys/devices/vbd-51712/block/xvda)
[16:41] <nacc> davidak: iirc, 'none' == noop, which is correct for certain classes of devices
[16:42] <nacc> davidak: err, ~= noop
[16:42] <nacc> davidak: it's probably a nvme devices, is this in a cloud env?
[16:43] <davidak> nacc: it's a VM on a XenServer with storage over iSCSI
[16:43] <davidak> i want noop
[16:43] <MonkeyDust> !find noop
[16:44] <MonkeyDust> what's noop
[16:44] <nacc> it's an io scheduler n ame
[16:44] <nacc> *name
[16:44] <nacc> davidak: i'm guessing (still digging) that one layer or another of that setup is bypassing the io scheduler layer in th ekernel
[16:45] <davidak> nacc: so could i ignore that?
[16:46] <davidak> still same output with elevator=noop boot option
[16:46] <nacc> davidak: it seems like at some point the kernel decided virtual devices don't have elevators/schedulers
[16:46] <genii> davidak: Have you tried grub option of elevator=noop and updating grub?
[16:46] <nacc> davidak: which is probably correct, as the actual io scheduling is done in the ost
[16:46] <nacc> *host
[16:46] <genii> ...ah, nvm
[16:46] <nacc> davidak: e.g., LP: #1346687 comment 3
[16:48] <davidak> nacc: thanks!
[16:50] <Apteryx> Hi! Is there a way to diff my current grub config vs default Ubuntu 16.04 one? I'm having problems and would like to know if there are modified options I have forgotten I've changed in the past...
[16:52] <nacc> davidak: just checked the kernel source and elv_iosched_show emits 'none' for !q->elevator || !blk_queue_stackable(q), i'm still searching as to the commit that made virtual devices satisfy that
[16:54] <davidak> nacc: it's enough for me to know that this is normal behavior and no problem on our servers
[16:54] <creyc> running 16.04.1, why can't i set time on my machine? # timedatectl
[16:54] <creyc> Failed to create bus connection: No such file or directory
[16:55] <nacc> davidak: yeah, it seems 'normal' and looks to be something all distirbutions would see eventually (as they update to > 3.13)
[16:58] <djugashvili> why is my Xorg process taking up 100% cpu out of the sudden?
[16:59] <yancho> hi. i am trying to install a deb but its dependent on php5. I have php7. how can I force it to try to install?
[17:00] <Smashcat> yancho: You can install PHP5 alongside PHP7
[17:02] <ovrflw0x> yancho mancho gancho
[17:03] <yancho> Smashcat: would something like this get php5 working? http://lornajane.net/posts/2016/php-7-0-and-5-6-on-ubuntu
[17:03] <Smashcat> yancho: Yep, pretty much what I had to do to get a Silverstripe install working
[17:04] <Smashcat> yancho: You'll need to remember to install all the modules you need to use with php5 as well - when you install php5, it doesn't include many of the common modules.
[17:07] <ovrflw0x> yo yo gaiz guyiz i've goot problem, i've goot bluetooth headphones but in gnome sound settings i am getting 2 sinks mono and high fidelity, how can i default it to high fidelity whenever i connect the bluetooth headphones?
[17:07] <w0jrl> Apteryx: I'm not sure if this will help, but you can find the troubleshooting documentation for grub2 at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Troubleshooting
[17:08] <ovrflw0x> yo yo gaiz guyiz i've goot problem, i've goot bluetooth headphones but in gnome sound settings i am getting 2 sinks mono and high fidelity, how can i default it to high fidelity whenever i connect the bluetooth headphones?
[17:12] <abhinand_> Is there a way I can resize the root partition if I dont have unallocated space before or after it in the partition table ?
[17:13] <ovrflw0x> abhinand_, i don't have clue man but try "Gparted" and resize your root partition, but mind it it might take looong time
[17:14] <abhinand_> but is it possible to increase the size of the partition, it won't be right ?
[17:14] <ovrflw0x> huh?
[17:14] <ovrflw0x> wtf r u typing abhinand_
[17:15] <ovrflw0x> yes it is possible
[17:16] <naphix> abhinand_ If you do not have free space before or after the root partition, then you may have to resize/move other partitions on the drive. gparted would be good to use.
[17:16] <akik> abhinand_: if you don't have lvm, it'll take much work to move the partitions
[17:16] <akik> abhinand_: one option is to mount a partition somewhere in the file system and move directories
[17:16] <ovrflw0x> abhinand_, http://askubuntu.com/questions/492054/how-to-extend-my-root-partition <- simple search you could have done it
[17:17] <ovrflw0x> yo yo gaiz guyiz i've goot problem, i've goot bluetooth headphones but in gnome sound settings i am getting 2 sinks mono and high fidelity, how can i default it to high fidelity whenever i connect the bluetooth headphones?
[17:18] <djugashvili> what is responsible in ubuntu for dynamic frequency scaling?
[17:19] <djugashvili> is there a userspace program for that or is it just kernel drivers
[17:19] <djugashvili> ah there is thermald
[17:20] <djugashvili> so this is what generates lags for me
[17:20] <Balti> Hello
[17:20] <djugashvili> hi
[17:20] <abhinand_> ovrflw0x: that would work only if there isn't a /home in between
[17:20] <HendSoliman> i am new to ubuntu , anyone could recommend me a textbook ?
[17:21] <ovrflw0x> HendSoliman, dude INTERNET SEARCH GOOGLE and be done. period.
[17:22] <HMEC> http://files.ubuntu-manual.org/manuals/getting-started-with-ubuntu/14.04e2/fr/screen/Premiers%20pas%20avec%20Ubuntu%2014.04%20-%20Deuxi%C3%A8me%20%C3%A9dition.pdf
[17:25] <tomreyn> !fr | HMEC
[17:25] <ovrflw0x> yo yo gaiz guyiz i've goot problem, i've goot bluetooth headphones but in gnome sound settings i am getting 2 sinks mono and high fidelity, how can i default it to high fidelity whenever i connect the bluetooth headphones?
[17:28] <ovrflw0x> yo yo gaiz guyiz i've goot problem, i've goot bluetooth headphones but in gnome sound settings i am getting 2 sinks mono and high fidelity, how can i default it to high fidelity whenever i connect the bluetooth headphones?
[17:28] <tgm4883> !patience | ovrflw0x
[17:29] <Netek> is it possible I can make a folder in /home/user/site  and give access to a user to this directory but duplicate this directory in /var/www?  I dont know the name I should look
[17:30] <tgm4883> Netek: symlink
[17:30] <Netek> tgm4883 ok thank you
[17:32] <HendSoliman> i want to use a virtual box for the first time , what is the easiest one ?
[17:32] <mysticTot> I'm trying to install MiracleCast and when I run ../configure --prefix=/usr/local  I got this error checking for DEPS... no
[17:32] <mysticTot> configure: error: Package requirements (libudev libsystemd > 219) were not met:
[17:32] <mysticTot> No package 'libudev' found
[17:32] <mysticTot> No package 'libsystemd' found
[17:32] <mysticTot> Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you
[17:32] <poige> Netek, tgm4883 : mount --bind
[17:32] <mysticTot> installed software in a non-standard prefix.
[17:33] <firman> hollA
[17:36] <HendSoliman> i want to use a virtual box for the first time , what is the easiest one ?
[17:36] <compdoc> I like kvm, but there is one named virtualbox, I think
[17:37] <baizon> !info virtualbox | HendSoliman
[17:37] <Forre> Evening
[17:38] <Forre> I would need some technical help with 16.04 and e100 "cannot be loaded" problem. How to proceed ?
[17:39] <rly> Why are LTS releases not updated with the latest security patches?
[17:39] <rly> Specifically patches which are over 6 months old?
[17:39] <mysticTot> I'm getting this error while building MiracleCast http://paste.ubuntu.com/23082541/
[17:40] <rly> In particular this means that at the time the latest LTS release was released, it was already insecure.
[17:40] <rly> Why would you ever do that?
[17:40] <baizon> mysticTot: youre missing libs
[17:40] <Jordan_U> rly: Please list the CVEs to which you are referring.
[17:40] <baizon> rly: source of that info?
[17:41] <rly> Jordan_U: https://rsync.samba.org/security.html#s3_1_2
[17:41] <mysticTot> I'm running ubuntu 16.04 and using https://github.com/albfan/miraclecast as my refernce
[17:41] <rly> baizon: I am the source.
[17:42] <rly> baizon: evidence at above URL.
[17:42] <daumie> Software recommendation : Which mail client is best used in Ubuntu
[17:42] <daumie> ??
[17:42] <tgm4883> !info samba
[17:42] <rly> daumie: depends on the target audience.
[17:42] <tgm4883> !info rsync
[17:42] <rly> daumie: for low tech people Thunderbird?
[17:42] <daumie> P{ersonal usage rly
[17:42] <daumie> Hahaa..and for nerds rly ?
[17:43] <rly> daumie: custom built solutions involving notmuch for example.
[17:43] <daumie> I just uninstalled thunderbird, want something more exciting
[17:43] <rly> daumie: funny, I want boring.
[17:43] <rly> Jordan_U: so?
[17:44] <sonicx> would anyone like to help me with a sound pm
[17:44] <daumie> sonicx: shoot it up
[17:44] <rly> Jordan_U: already changing the topic to "hole in every LTS system on the planet"?
[17:44] <tgm4883> rly: are you sure it's not patched?
[17:45] <daumie> rly: Thunderbird doesn;t work with my gmail account as it is considered insecure rly
[17:45] <tgm4883> rly: specifically, by this http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2879-1/
[17:45] <rly> tgm4883: ok, I am not sure, but the version number is older.
[17:45] <Jordan_U> rly: It's very common for security fixes to be backported.
[17:45] <tgm4883> rly: the version number means nothing in that case
[17:45] <Jordan_U> rly: In fact, there are probably very few core packages which don't contain backported security fixes.
[17:45] <rly> Jordan_U: ok, my bad.
[17:46] <rly> Jordan_U: sorry for the noise.
[17:46] <tgm4883> rly: if you are truely worried about security, you should be referencing CVE numbers
[17:46] <rly> Jordan_U: perhaps it would be useful to automatically reflect this stuff in the version string.
[17:46] <rly> tgm4883: there was no reference to the CVE number from the rsync page.
[17:46] <tgm4883> rly: why would that be useful?
[17:46] <rly> Jordan_U: I mean when you do --version.
[17:47] <rly> tgm4883: because then I wouldn't have been here.
[17:47] <tgm4883> rly: I would suggest you subscribe to http://www.ubuntu.com/usn
[17:47] <tgm4883> rly: how would referencing it in the version even work?
[17:47] <yancho> Smashcat: the problem is that php5.06 is still not answering the dependency for php5
[17:47] <ronaldsmazitis> ffmpeg -i file.mp4 -vf scale=720x406,setdar=16:9 -strict -2 file_widen.mp4 why this doesn
[17:47] <ronaldsmazitis> 't change my video to 16:
[17:47] <ronaldsmazitis> 9
[17:48] <sonicx> NVIDIA Corporation MCP67 High Definition Audio   it shows up in sound but I don't get sound
[17:48] <Forre> hi, after upgrading 16.04.1 my 2nd ethernet if does not work. It has e100 driver. Debug msg from syslog shows: "systemd-udevd[3200]: Process '/bin/readlink /etc/udev/rules.d/80-net-setup-link.rules' failed with exit code 1" What to do next ?
[17:48] <rly> tgm4883: you would add a newline to the unpatched version output and then follow that by some specified format.
[17:48] <baizon> sonicx: change the output device?
[17:48] <rly> tgm4883: for example, one URL line with fixed backported issues in this version.
[17:48] <sonicx> I tryed
[17:49] <rly> tgm4883: that way the question "am I patched" can be answered without contacting a remote server.
[17:49] <rly> tgm4883: so, that's a useful feature.
[17:49] <Jordan_U> rly: There are far too many patches to include in any reasonable version string.
[17:49] <rly> Jordan_U: it's in the output of the --version command.
[17:50] <rly> Jordan_U: not really the "version".
[17:50] <rly> Jordan_U: so, first line contains the "real" version.
[17:50] <rly> Jordan_U: below that some lines (or some XML, or whatever) with meta data.
[17:50] <tgm4883> rly: how about 'apt-get changelog <packagename>'
[17:51] <rly> tgm4883: that's also fine.
[17:51] <rly> tgm4883: thanks
[17:51] <rly> tgm4883: that requires an internet connection.
[17:51] <rly> tgm4883: but perhaps you can configure it such that you can download everything?
[17:52] <ksft> I have an integrated Intel graphics card and a dedicated Nvidia one. If I install any proprietary nvidia driver packages, I can't log in.
[17:52] <ksft> I'm on 16.04.
[17:52] <ksft> I would like to be able to both use the dedicated graphics card and log in.
[17:53] <Jordan_U> rly: That's simply not scaleable to all of the commands containing --version options in the repositories. A lot of people have spent a lot of time and effort thinking about these things. So while there are definitely improvements to be made 1: I suggest that you spend at least a day researching how such things are currently handled, and why, before making a new proposal. 2: I suggest that if you do make
[17:53] <Jordan_U> a proposal, you propose something concrete rather than "some specified format", and 3: You should not be making such proposals here, as this is the wrong forum for such discussion. A bug report / feature request would be a proper place (again, after following part 1 and formulating part 2).
[17:53] <Smashcat> ksft: Sounds like you have the video connected to the wrong port
[17:54] <ksft> I can't disable the integrated one with the BIOS, and I don't think I can switch graphics cards with the open source drivers.
[17:54] <compdoc> if my system doesnt have a soundcard, is there a way to provide one virtually?
[17:54] <ksft> Smashcat: I doubt it; it's a laptop.
[17:54] <souravbadami> How much data will be consumed to upgrade ubuntu 14.04 to ubuntu 16.04 ?
[17:54] <Smashcat> ksft: Ah, ok
[17:55] <souravbadami> And, Is it safe to directly upgrade from the prompt which appears on ubuntu 14.04 for updates ?
[17:55] <Smashcat> ksft: Boot into text mode? Does that appear?
[17:55] <ksft> Smashcat: yes
[17:55] <rly> souravbadami: it says that before you go through with the upgrade. The number is between 0.5GB and 10GB in almost all cases.
[17:55] <ksft> I'm currently using a GUI with no proprietary nvidia driver packages installed
[17:55] <ksft> I can use a tty when I do have them installed, but I can't log in with the GUI.
[17:56] <rly> souravbadami: my system broke when I upgraded.
[17:56] <rly> souravbadami: but then again that always happens on my systems and I can always fix it.
[17:56] <Smashcat> ksft: But you can log in using text mode, then start the gui?
[17:56] <rly> souravbadami: most people do a reinstall to avoid such issues.
[17:56] <rly> well, some.
[17:56] <ksft> Smashcat: What do you mean by "log in using text mode"?
[17:56] <ksft> like use a tty?
[17:57] <ksft> I can do that.
[17:57] <ksft> `service lightdm restart` doesn't help
[17:57] <Smashcat> ksft: Yeah, boot into the command line (no gui) then launch the GUI after logging in
[17:57] <souravbadami> rly: Hmm
[17:57] <rly> souravbadami: I have much more installed than most people.
[17:57] <ksft> Smashcat: There is a GUI. I just can't log in.
[17:57] <rly> souravbadami: so, I hit all the issues, because they are also in universe.
[17:57] <ksft> If I try to, the screen flashes, and it asks me to log in again.
[17:58] <rly> So, they are "supported by the community", which means it is not at all supported in practice :)
[17:58] <Smashcat> When you get to the desktop, in video settings, does it think there are 2 displays attached?
[17:58] <souravbadami> rly: I'll give it a try.
[17:58] <Smashcat> ksft: Ah, so you actually get the GUI login prompt?
[17:58] <ksft> Smashcat: you mean now without the drivers?
[17:58] <ksft> Smashcat: yes
[17:58] <tgm4883> souravbadami: FWIW, I upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 and didn't have any issues
[17:59] <csmule> What's the order of precedence when setting ulimit?  Do the options set in /etc/security/limits.conf take precedence over running ulimit on the command line before starting your process? I also see an issue where a process is started as root and run as another user, ulimits get lost.
[17:59] <ksft> Smashcat: It currently says there's only one display, which is correct.
[17:59] <souravbadami> rly: What do you say ? Do I get anything out of box if I get to 16.04 or shall I stick with 14.04
[17:59] <ksft> not sure if that question was for me
[17:59] <rly> souravbadami: I don't know what you mean.
[17:59] <Smashcat> ksft: So the drivers work - you'll need to check in the logs to see why it cannot launch the desktop properly after the login manager
[17:59] <souravbadami> rly: Anything specific in 16.04 which is not there in 14.04
[17:59] <ksft> Smashcat: /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[18:00] <rly> souravbadami: you have two options: (switch distro completely or upgrade ) before 2017.
[18:00] <Smashcat> ksft: Yeah, it must be crashing for some reason, which would throw you back to the login
[18:00] <ksft> Smashcat: I don't know what I'm looking for in it, but I can install a driver, reboot, try to log in, and show you the logs if you want.
[18:00] <rly> souravbadami: or reinstall Ubuntu 16.04.
[18:00] <akik> ksft: check out ~/.xsession-errors too
[18:00] <Smashcat> ksft: I can't really go through the logs, at work at the moment :)
[18:01] <rly> souravbadami: if you don't have any technical skills, find someone who does if you try to upgrade.
[18:01] <rly> souravbadami: a reinstallation requires less skills.
[18:01] <ksft> akik: It has these three lines: http://termbin.com/j6gw
[18:01] <ksft> I don't know what any of them mean.
[18:01] <ronaldsmazitis> ffmpeg -i file.mp4 -vf scale=1920x1080,setdar=16:9 -strict -2 file_widen.mp4
[18:01] <pero> so i'm trying to get a fresh ubuntu gnome 16.04 install going. i have a nvidia card and installed the latest drivers (370) from the ppa. but steam won't run and googling around tells me to select the nvidia driver from additional drivers which is way older
[18:02] <ronaldsmazitis> why it does not change aspect ration to 16/9
[18:02] <Smashcat> ksft: Looks like the same issue as this guy had: http://askubuntu.com/questions/423725/ubuntu-12-04-32bit-cant-login
[18:03] <pero> do i uninstall the newest driver i installed and go with the older one? (370 vs 304)
[18:03] <ksft> Smashcat: oh, looks promising
[18:03] <ksft> Which proprietary nvidia drivers should I use?
[18:03] <Bashing-om> pero: What card .. see what nVidia recommends for ya .
[18:04] <Smashcat> ksft: good luck :) I need to get back to some coding :)
[18:04] <ksft> Should I install them with `apt-get`, or should I have Unity's settings thing do it for me?
[18:04] <pero> geforce 9600gt
[18:05] <sonicx> is there any thing I can do ? with the NVIDIA Corporation MCP67 High Definition Audio  and sorry if I'm bugging you guys I been working on this for about 5h or so
[18:05] <ballison> found this (RE: L2TP support under Ubuntu) --> https://documentation.meraki.com/MX-Z/Client_VPN/Configuring_Client_VPN_in_Linux
[18:06] <Bashing-om> pero: http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_32667.html . says the 340 driver .
[18:07] <ballison> notice how it says, "Please note that newer versions of Ubuntu do not ship with a VPN client that supports L2TP/IP,"
[18:09] <yancho> hi. I want to install a deb which has a php5 dependency. I installed from Ondřej Surý php 5.06 but the problem is that php5.06 is still not answering the dependency for php5. any pointers to what I should do please?
[18:09] <nemecy> i'm afraid to use ubuntu and look the message cant upgrade package broken
[18:10] <homsar> Trying to do something fucking crazy - I have two HDs RAIDed for my system disk with 14.04 on it (don't ask - it's someone else's computer). I want to un-RAID them and just boot off one, so I can install windows on the other (per request of the computer's owner). Is this possible? How can I do it safely (with backups every step of the way)?
[18:10] <paranoidabhi> #maths
[18:10] <paranoidabhi> hi!
[18:10] <nemecy> hey
[18:10] <hhee> hey guys. i put new usb network card in desktop, how can i found out - is this works?
[18:11] <nemecy> use fedora instead ubuntu
[18:11] <hhee> why?
[18:12] <hhee> im new in ubuntu world
[18:12] <hhee> its true
[18:12] <Bashing-om> homsar: Raid tools,  they are not installed on the standard desktop . ' sudo apt install dmraid ' and one can then remove the raid meta data .
[18:13] <homsar> Bashing-om, thanks! Do I need to do it from a liveusb or can I just do it to the system drive while it's running?
[18:14] <homsar> Bashing-om, also, its software RAID. Will dmraid still work?
[18:14] <Bashing-om> homsar: I always went with the liveUSB .. never had a thought otherwise . so not tested if doable from the install .
[18:16] <Bashing-om> homsar: Hang on a sec or so .. ny notes " dmraid is currently unmaintained and might break with new linux versions. Using mdadm is highly recommended. " checking .
[18:17] <homsar> Bashing-om, huh thanks for the tip. I'll look into mdadm and removing metadata. But if I remove the metadata, will I be able to boot from the drive or will it wipe the drive?
[18:18] <michaelrose> random question: how well does unity hud, the feature wherein you can hit a button and search through application menus work, specifically does it work on all/most/some applications?
[18:20] <Bashing-om> homsar: Ya gonna loose the data . To boot up ubuntu then will require re-formatting and re-installing the operating system . Partition table will be different !
[18:20] <fsociety_404> haii
[18:20] <fsociety_404> hello
[18:20] <Bashing-om> !info mdadm trusty | homsar
[18:21] <tomreyn> !ask | fsociety_404
[18:21] <tomreyn> also, welcome ;)
[18:22] <antipsychiatry> Hy
[18:22] <fsociety_404> thanks
[18:28] <antipsychiatry> The bastard israelites atack me every day with chemicals in the air in the home! This criminals informants used by Mossad- kiling machine!!!! I am pro-health and Antipsychiatry,anti GMO....antiVACCINE, anti-chipping people with nanochip or RFID chip! These bastards think they are a superior rase...
[18:28] <baizon> thank you
[18:31] <tomreyn> you could try talking to such people first instead of supporting their world view of 'everyone's against me'. but i admit it's tough.
[18:33] <Seveas> tomreyn: neh, that one's a repeat troll. Pointless :)
[18:33] <homsar> Bashing-om, This whole thing is much more dangerous than I imagined (the fear of data loss is ever present). I might just install windows on a separate drive. Thanks for all the help though!
[18:33] <tomreyn> oh ok
[18:34] <Seveas> earlier today the israelis apparently remotely monitored his brain :)
[18:34] <Bashing-om> homsar: That ^ is what we do . Prior prudent planning and GOOD backups !
[18:36] <tomreyn> so bashing-0m is an israeli who monitors peoples' brains and takes backups of them
[18:36] <tomreyn> j/k
[18:42] <homsar> Bashing-om, is what I'm trying to do possible with a smart backup scheme? I know very little about backing up an entire ubuntu drive, especially one that is raided and in 3 partitions. Would it just be easier to install windows on a new drive?
[18:45] <Bashing-om> homsar: The quickest is yes install Windows on it's own drive ./ Backing up data is a very personal thing . Remember that all system files are on the install, there is no need to back them up . I only backup my personal data and I keep a changelog of all changes I make to the system.
[18:45] <Seveas> tomreyn: that's just one of his hobbies :)
[18:46] <Seveas> Bashing-om: I tend to back up /home and /etc, that tends to do the trick
[18:46] <Seveas> unless I manually hack bugs out of files in /usr/lib/python* and forget I did so :)
[18:47] <Bashing-om> Seveas: Uh Huh .. that will work .. rsync to the rescue !
[18:48] <Seveas> Bashing-om: indeed!
[18:48] <homsar> Seveas, Bashing-om is it impractical to just back up the whole disk? Store is no issue
[18:48] <hhee> hey
[18:49] <homsar> We were also thinking of removing one disk from RAID rather than just remove RAID entirely, so we would have a degenerate RAID with one disk and we can install windows on the newly freed disk
[18:49] <Seveas> homsar: just back up only the real filesystems (rsync -avx per filesystem) and don't try to back up /sys, /proc, /dev and the like
[18:50] <Bashing-om> homsar: Well no .. not "impractical" most depends on the thought process . Even with a clone, there is still work to be done in many cases to make it bootable once more from restore . I can re-install and do my backups in about 20 minutes .
[18:51] <hhee> any free cloud for linux ubuntu except dropbox? (it's dont show me the gui :)
[18:52] <Seveas> hhee: google drive?
[18:52] <hhee> Seveas, thx, forgot about it
[18:52] <MonkeyDust> hhee  Box
[18:52] <MonkeyDust> hhee  box.com
[18:53] <hhee> MonkeyDust, cool thx
[18:53] <hhee> MonkeyDust, do you like it more then google drive or dropbox?
[18:53] <MonkeyDust> hhee  and onlyoffice.com
[18:54] <MonkeyDust> hhee  i don't use either
[18:55] <Bashing-om> homsar: For your consideration . I once ran this bax as a file server - raided - . when I no longer had the need I repurposed to a home environment . removed raid as was more trouble than it was worth for a desktop PC . I have never regretted removing raid  for my use case .
[18:55] <Bashing-om> bax/box
[18:58] <lewltrowl> Hello, is it possible to add an iso file to /dev/sda3 for example then add a entry in grub for that partition?
[18:59] <akik> lewltrowl: yes you can mount iso files (-t iso9660 -o loop or -t udf -o loop)
[18:59] <Bashing-om> lewltrowl: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot <-Ubuntu ISOs are designed to allow booting directly from the hard drive .
[18:59] <Seveas> lewltrowl: not really. You can mount it after boot, but you can't boot from it.
[18:59] <Seveas> hmm, ok, I stand corrected. Obsolete knowledge :)
[18:59] <akik> lewltrowl: oh sorry skipped the grub thingy thing
[18:59] <lewltrowl> Hehe ok
[19:00] <lewltrowl> Because i need to resize my /root partition
[19:00] <lewltrowl> Dont got any usb memory available
[19:00] <lewltrowl> So i cant run live cd or usb
[19:00] <lewltrowl> Got any solutions?
[19:01] <Bashing-om> lewltrowl: My experience is a real pain to figure out how to UNmount the root partition .
[19:01] <MonkeyDust> lewltrowl  yes https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[19:01] <MonkeyDust> oh Bashing-om was faster
[19:01] <daumie> re-installed thunderbird, I have given up on trying getting gmail working ...
[19:01] <lewltrowl> MonkeyDust: already tried that
[19:02] <daumie> Tried all google stuff I could find
[19:02] <lewltrowl> But i cant resize it because my iso is mounted from that particular partition
[19:02] <Bashing-om> MonkeyDust: Only this once . I generallly lag way behind you .
[19:09] <m0ordzieK>  Hi yesterday everything was working fine, i didnt do anything and suddenly my sambaserver doesnt work anymore, it gives a Segmentation Fault if i try to start the daemon.
[19:13] <LinuxIRCdarude> !bacon
[19:25] <ruptwelve> Hey guys! Is there anyone who can assist with initctl ?
[19:25] <ruptwelve> I am having issues with it, well, I am actually trying to figure something out
[19:26] <tomreyn> ruptwelve: i won't be able to help (got to run), but if you hope that anyone else will, you should explain what you are tryin got figure out, and trying to do, and what the issue seems to be
[19:27] <ruptwelve> Thanks tomreyn
[19:27] <ruptwelve> I am just wondering if I can get exit codes from the script stanza ?
[19:27] <ruptwelve> for example - my apache fails to start due to some issue with the httpd.conf  - but when running  it via initctl start httpd
[19:27] <ruptwelve> it shows it as "started"
[19:27] <ruptwelve> but it actually is not
[19:28] <ruptwelve> is there a way I can get a $? out of the script stanza?
[19:30] <michaelrose> can't you just start apache?
[19:30] <ruptwelve> Well I can, but the system we have is basically triggering initctl that starts apache
[19:31] <ruptwelve> No systemd
[19:31] <ruptwelve> and no init
[19:31] <ruptwelve> an init script basically runs initctl
[19:31] <michaelrose> I meant to see what was wrong
[19:32] <ruptwelve> Well I perfectly know what is wrong - I made the mistake myself
[19:32] <ruptwelve> but I want to be sure, that future users
[19:32] <ruptwelve> can actually see if apache fails to start
[19:32] <ruptwelve> Because just from the service httpd start (initctl start httpd) everything seems fine
[19:32] <ruptwelve> And for some reason even though apache fails, intictl has an exit code of 0
[19:33] <michaelrose> are you running an old version of ubuntu?
[19:34] <ruptwelve> Its actually Amazon Linux under Elastic Beanstalk - but it is using initctl (which is an Ubuntu thing)
[19:35] <akik> initctl is an upstart thing. still supported because it's in 14.04
[19:35] <ruptwelve> Yeah - right
[19:35] <michaelrose> ah
[19:35] <ruptwelve> but upstart is not usually found on Centos Based distros
[19:35] <ruptwelve> So I am just wondering
[19:36] <ruptwelve> how can I get an exit status
[19:36] <ruptwelve> from the script part :)
[19:36] <ruptwelve> I tried numerous things - but nothing seems to work
[19:36] <michaelrose> are you using a centos based distro?
[19:36] <ruptwelve> Yes
[19:37] <ruptwelve> Amazon Linux
[19:38] <michaelrose> is this brokenness where a service fails to start but doesn't report this normal behavior for amazon linux?
[19:38] <ruptwelve> It seems to be broken with Elastic Beanstalk (an AWS service)
[19:39] <ruptwelve> that is, if you are using Elastic beanstalk with PHP (apache) it seems to use upstart to start apache
[19:39] <ruptwelve> instead of just standard init.d
[19:39] <ruptwelve> well - actually init.d starts an upstart script
[19:39] <ruptwelve> Its a bit complicated
[19:39] <michaelrose> I'm guessing you would look at the service file for apache
[19:40] <michaelrose> and unscrewup that first
[19:40] <ruptwelve> That is actually the problem
[19:40] <ruptwelve> the service file /etc/init/httpd.conf
[19:40] <ruptwelve> There I have a problem in handling errors
[19:41] <ruptwelve> that is, when upstart tries to start that service
[19:41] <CrashTestDummy> Hello. I just got a new laptop. I cannot get the wifi card or bluetooth to be recognized. The soundcard is also not recognized. Can someone help me ?
[19:41] <CrashTestDummy> What is the usual p[rocedure for this ?
[19:41] <ruptwelve> even if the service fails, upstart exits with a code of 0
[19:41] <akik> ruptwelve: /etc/init is for upstart configs
[19:41] <ruptwelve> even if I state exit 1
[19:41] <ruptwelve> it exits
[19:41] <ruptwelve> akik: correct
[19:41] <ruptwelve> and that is what I am trying to troubleshoot
[19:42] <ruptwelve> to get some better handling there
[19:42] <ksft> I'm on Ubuntu 16.06, and I have an integrated Intel graphics card and a dedicated Nvidia one. If I install proprietary Nvidia drivers, I get a login loop the next time X starts.
[19:42] <akik> ruptwelve: you can create your own functionality in those scripts to do checks
[19:42] <michaelrose> isn't there a separation between the service file and configuration file for the service?
[19:42] <ksft> Without them, I can log in normally, but I can't use the Nvidia graphics card.
[19:42] <ruptwelve> I can make a pre-start script that will check the configuration of apache
[19:42] <ruptwelve> which is fine
[19:42] <ruptwelve> but that covers only onet hing
[19:42] <michaelrose> I would think the service file would be /etc/init.d/whatever
[19:42] <ruptwelve> michaelrose: you are correct
[19:43] <ruptwelve> and the service file basically runs initctl httpd service
[19:43] <ruptwelve> sorry
[19:43] <ruptwelve> initctl start httpd
[19:43] <ruptwelve> and then responds based on the exit code
[19:43] <akik> ruptwelve: there's also post-start
[19:43] <ruptwelve> but the exit code is alway 0 no matter if the service starts or not
[19:43] <ruptwelve> correct
[19:44] <ruptwelve> but - post-start works ONLY if the service starts
[19:44] <michaelrose> it should be possible to look at the status and determine whether the service started
[19:44] <ruptwelve> if there is an issue with the service start the script ends
[19:44] <ruptwelve> all upstart configs run as /bin/sh -e
[19:44] <ruptwelve> that means as soon as there is an error the script ends
[19:44] <ruptwelve> so no further commands are performed
[19:45] <akik> ruptwelve: how about modifying the "script" part to add the check after the binary is started
[19:45] <akik> ohh
[19:45] <michaelrose> or just wrap the script in your own script
[19:45] <ruptwelve> akik: I was thinking of that but if you put something like:
[19:46] <michaelrose> any changes to an init script would be overwritten on update
[19:46] <ruptwelve> this is part of the scrip /usr/sbin/httpd -someparameters
[19:46] <michaelrose> whereas your own script that initiates the service then checks then does something not only will not be overwritten but will additionally be able to do something much smarter on failure
[19:47] <ruptwelve> and if that fails - the initclt just stops running additional commands and shows the job as running
[19:47] <ruptwelve> michaelrose: That is a good idea
[19:47] <ruptwelve> I will try some script wrapper
[19:47] <ruptwelve> but the problem is initctl cannot give any output
[19:47] <ruptwelve> maybe I can grep fax | [h]ttpd
[19:47] <ruptwelve> and see if the process runs
[19:49] <Dirkson> Hey all. Trying to use the liveusb image - Is there an Ubuntu Way to remount the damn usb drive as read/write?
[19:50] <michaelrose> Dirkson, its called the mount command
[19:50] <michaelrose> man mount
[19:50] <OerHeks> it is a read-only file, so no.
[19:51] <michaelrose> I thought he meant the drive
[19:51] <OerHeks> there is a way to make the left space persistent.
[19:52] <OerHeks> !persistent
[19:52] <Dirkson> michaelrose: Yeah, that doesn't appear to give me write access. Can't chown, even as root, and paste operations don't work.
[19:52] <michaelrose> Dirkson, you can copy the files from the iso file then make changes then use mkisofs
[19:53] <bigl0af> qq: was the uncompressed Packages file on the Ubuntu Archive repo supposed to go missing lately? Example: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-amd64/
[19:53] <OerHeks> bad advise, the live iso is read only for a reason
[19:53] <CrashTestDummy> Is there a way to find type and version of a wifi card when it is not recognized in ubuntu?
[19:53] <john_421> hello i am super new to blender and i just wonder if anyone know a tutorial to accomplish something similar to http://www.carboun.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/3.jpg
[19:53] <OerHeks> Dirkson, what is your goal??
[19:54] <ksft> john_421: try #blender
[19:54] <Dirkson> OerHeks: I want to copy files from the host computer to the usb stick. I'm starting to think "Just install Debian to the stick, Dirkson" is the correct answer.
[19:54] <john_421> ksft: heck i thought i was in blender group :D sorry
[19:54] <john_421> channel*
[19:55] <CrashTestDummy> i can see "WiFi hardware radio set enabled"
[19:55] <CrashTestDummy> but cannot do anything with it
[19:55] <OerHeks> Dirkson, prepair the liveiso with that persistant part
[19:55] <OerHeks> else use a 2nd usb
[19:57] <Dirkson> There we go. I can just copy things into the terminal - I can't figure out how to give my user write permissions, but root has them. Whatever, this'll work for as long as I need it to work.
[19:57] <OerHeks> copy in terminal with mouse, not ctrl v
[19:58] <OerHeks> or SHIFT crl v
[19:58] <MozillaFirefox20> shut up
[19:58] <MozillaFirefox20> hey guys
[20:00] <MozillaFirefox20> running ubuntu on windows 10 using vmware
[20:00] <ksft> just letting us know
[20:02] <tomreyn> CrashTestDummy: did you get any help, yet?
[20:03] <tomreyn> i'm not here for long but while i am, i can try (may need to leave at once)
[20:03] <mozillafirefox-2> hey i am running ubuntu on a windows 10 using vmware
[20:03] <mozillafirefox-2> you noob
[20:03] <WaV> is the KDE framework available via the package manager? Trying to install Konversation from source and cant find it. I would install konversation via the package manager but it doesn't have the newest version.
[20:04] <mozillafirefox-2> we have windows!
[20:04] <MonkeyDust> mozillafirefox-2  your question being...
[20:04] <CrashTestDummy> no tomreyn
[20:04] <mozillafirefox-2> windows 98 is cheap and stupid i am mozillafirefox2003
[20:05] <MonkeyDust> mozillafirefox-2  stop
[20:05] <CrashTestDummy> I am still looking for a solution
[20:05] <mozillafirefox-2> windows 98 is nooby cheap and stupid looking
[20:05] <tomreyn> CrashTestDummy: which ubuntu version are you using?
[20:05] <OerHeks> !ot | mozillafirefox-2
[20:05] <CrashTestDummy> i am using ubuntu gnome 16.04
[20:05] <mozillafirefox-2> 16.04
[20:05] <OerHeks> don't feed the trolls ..
[20:05] <CrashTestDummy> it is a baytrail with an NM10
[20:05] <mozillafirefox-2> thanks noob
[20:06] <CrashTestDummy> ip a tells me there is no wifi card
[20:06] <mozillafirefox-2> hey steve_jobs do you work for apple
[20:07] <karic> @CrashTestDummy does ipconfig show a wireless interface?
[20:07] <karic> ifconfig*
[20:07] <CrashTestDummy> karic You mean ifconfig?
[20:07] <bigl0af> qq: was the uncompressed Packages file on the Ubuntu Archive repo supposed to go missing lately? Example: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-amd64/
[20:08] <CrashTestDummy> karic or you really mean ipconfig?
[20:08] <karic> (22:07:19) karic: ifconfig*
[20:08] <CrashTestDummy> ifconfig and 'ip a' do not show any wireless interfaces karic and tomreyn
[20:08] <morpheus7> hello - can you configure l2tp/ipsec vpn on ubuntu 14.04 LTS as a client?
[20:10] <CrashTestDummy> I can see in 'kern.log' 'NetworkManager WiFi hardware radio set enabled"
[20:11] <Netek> I want to create a script so that on a local server I can use a web form for creating new remote nginx vhosts.  Would bash be ideal?
[20:11] <karic> wasn't here from beginning do you have drivers installed and od does lspci show your card?
[20:11] <Netek> running from a local server means only myself and my partner can access the script
[20:12] <riqj> hello everyone, the wifi network symbol on my upper pane disappears very often when my display resumes from sleep. how can I fix this?
[20:12] <tomreyn> CrashTestDummy: find out which wireless chipset it comes with. check outputs of lspci and lcusb commands
[20:12] <tomreyn> CrashTestDummy: find out which wireless chipset it comes with. check outputs of lspci and lsusb commands
[20:13] <tomreyn> ^ typo corrected
[20:13] <tomreyn> if i got this right the intel NM10 chipset comes with a 3945ABG solved on
[20:13] <riqj> I often need to do 'service network-manager restart' and currently that even didnt bring back the wifi symbol (yet the device is connected to wifi)
[20:14] <tomreyn> gotto go, sorry
[20:14] <m0ordzieK> When using Linux
[20:14] <m0ordzieK> Marihuana is your best friend
[20:14] <m0ordzieK> To keep calm
[20:15] <MonkeyDust> m0ordzieK  wrong channel
[20:15] <m0ordzieK> lol
[20:16] <CrashTestDummy> tomreyn I n. This is the output. I cannot identify it >>> https://codeshare.io/r49LC
[20:21] <CrashTestDummy> karic Maybe you can help me ? This is the devices >>> https://codeshare.io/r49LC
[20:22] <oliverthered> hi
[20:22] <oliverthered> wzup
[20:23] <fuubaar> Does anyone know if there is a gparted dev chat somewhere ?
[20:23] <OerHeks> CrashTestDummy, what laptop is this?
[20:23] <karic> CrashTestDummy  it is a external or internal car
[20:24] <karic> i see you are using external ethernet
[20:24] <CrashTestDummy> 0erHeks A chiinese laptop i got for very cheap. It is the nameless
[20:24] <CrashTestDummy> karic it is internal
[20:24] <fuubaar> irc.gnome.org #gparted
[20:25] <CrashTestDummy> i am now connected with a network cable via usb
[20:25] <karic> I don't know then it should at least show it at lspci did it work on windows or some other os?
[20:26] <CrashTestDummy> karic 0erHeks this is the laptop >>> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/14-inch-laptop-Free-Shipping-high-quality-ultrabook-4GB-RAM-64G-HDD-with-Windows-10/32701795143.html?spm=2114.13010608.0.59.EONaXE
[20:29] <oliverthered> I'm having some scheduling issues, mostly around fileio
[20:29] <oliverthered> are brain fuck implementations useful
[20:29] <OerHeks> CrashTestDummy, looking at that lspci, it is a side-brand model, official ID numbers missing .. maybe the output of ' lshw '  can give clarity
[20:30] <MonkeyDust> oliverthered  mind your language ... scheduling, like cron?
[20:30] <oliverthered> performance is very good on older single sore systems even when running over usb2 via dvd
[20:30] <oliverthered> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain_Fuck_Scheduler
[20:30] <oliverthered> The Brain Fuck Scheduler (BFS) is a process scheduler designed for the Linux kernel in August 2009 as an alternative to the Completely Fair Scheduler and the O(1) scheduler.[2] BFS was created by veteran kernel programmer Con Kolivas.[3]
[20:30] <MonkeyDust> oh dear
[20:31] <CrashTestDummy> 0erHeks I am checking now
[20:31] <tgm4883> Yea, it's the actual name
[20:31] <oliverthered> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/65/Simplified_Structure_of_the_Linux_Kernel.svg
[20:31] <oliverthered> yep
[20:31] <Guest28781> I can't get my bluetooth speaker to work right with ubuntu.  I can get it to connect but only with awful quality. When I try to change the audio profile from (HSP/HFP) to a2dp_sink it throws "Failed to change profile to a2dp_sink"
[20:31] <tgm4883> oliverthered: however, you could use the abbrievated name, and stop posting it in this channel
[20:31] <tgm4883> BFS
[20:31] <oliverthered> it was initially implemented using shell scripts
[20:31] <oliverthered> BFS it is
[20:32] <oliverthered> iohangs on copies seem to be a big issue
[20:32] <oliverthered> coppies / moves
[20:33] <oliverthered> esp when multiple files are being moved via dolphin from SSD to USB3 drive
[20:33] <oliverthered> plasma is sitting at over 100% CPU
[20:33] <oliverthered> most of 8 cores are running very high
[20:33] <oliverthered> xorg is also high
[20:33] <oliverthered> file.io processes are also running high
[20:33] <CrashTestDummy> 0erheks i updated the codeshare . If you want to help then all help is welcone
[20:33] <oliverthered> tried adjusting scheduling priories manually, had success (once) ... I think they resporn
[20:34] <CrashTestDummy> Thank you so far for all your help
[20:35] <oliverthered> is there a fairly stock non vanilla kernal that works well with ubuntu
[20:35] <yancho> hi. we have 2 edge switches on which there are 8 vlans which we need to pass them to untangle which is a guest-vm on vmware. we have 8 fibre cables aggregated into 1 vSwitch as 1 port group and passed to untangle as 1 NIC. 1) what would be the best way to aggregate please? 2) no tagged traffic is reaching untangle. any ideas? thanks!
[20:36] <oliverthered> thanks, RTFM :-)
[20:36] <Jordan_U> oliverthered: https://lwn.net/Articles/682582/
[20:37] <Guest28781> Nothing for Bluetooth?
[20:39] <OerHeks> CrashTestDummy, no, it does not help me further :-(
[20:40] <CrashTestDummy> Thank you for all your help
[20:43] <Guest98141> hello i have xubuntu and it freezes when I watch videos. the sound loops so you can hear that it froze. when I move the mouse quickly it sometimes comes back but if i don't I have to restart everything becomes unresponsive
[20:45] <MWM> Im getting a complaint about a missing "shared library" and I cannot fine it :   libdb-4.8.so
[20:46] <k1l> MWM: which ubuntu is it?
[20:46] <MWM> ubuntu server 16.04
[20:46] <k1l> what software does need that? because that is only available in 12.04
[20:47] <oliverthered> I'm still getting a lot of CPU from Xorg... radion driver had some issues also in latest update... I've been using krita
[20:47] <oliverthered> TTFN
[20:47] <MWM> I was afraid of that.  I am trying to use squidguard
[20:47] <Guest28781> Also, should I select audio sink, handsfree or headphone for my bluetooth speaker?
[20:48] <MWM> I have no idea what to do when libraries are obseleted like that... is there a solution?
[20:48] <oliverthered> ah widget issue
[20:48] <k1l> MWM: that is a good sign, that the software you use is not really maintained and should not be used online at all
[20:48] <skinux> Can Ubuntu's mobile software be installed onto a factory Android powered LG Power phone?
[20:49] <MonkeyDust> !phone | skinux
[20:49] <skinux> join #ubuntu-touch
[20:49] <rick6860> After using awhile, MATE seems to hang or slow down. Is there something I can do about it?
[20:49] <k1l> !info squidgard
[20:50] <MWM> thanks for confirming my suspicion kil.  Ill go see what I can find
[20:50] <k1l> !info squidguard
[20:50] <k1l> there, it is in the repo. did you use that?
[20:51] <MWM> if I can install it from the repos though?  "sudo apt-get squidguard" got it for me
[20:52] <Guest98141> it happens more frequently lately i have 14.04
[20:52] <MWM> ahh  I seem missspelled the first time , squidgard.squidguard...thats why ubotto said it wasnt there
[20:52] <MWM> yes I installed from the repos.
[20:55] <Hawrombay> what would be the command syntax to remotely run a command on a server and display the output without actually connecting via ssh
[20:56] <Seveas> Hawrombay: magic.
[20:57] <Hawrombay> Seveas: you're so funny
[20:58] <riqj> hello everyone, the wifi network symbol on my upper pane disappears very often when my display resumes from sleep. how can I fix this?
[20:58] <Seveas> Hawrombay: how else would you run a command remotel without connecting to that remote?
[20:58] <jatt> connect via telnet
[20:58] <_adb> Hawrombay: do you really need to avoid an ssh connection or are you trying to run a single command without spawning an interactive shell? ssh can take a command argument: ssh myremoteserver 'hostname', for example, will run the hostname command on the remote machine and show the output to stdout
[20:58] <Seveas> jatt: the 90's called and want their insecure crap back :)
[20:58] <lordcirth> Hawrombay, if you run ssh with a command as an argument, it does that
[20:58] <jatt> 😸
[20:59] <Hawrombay> thank you _adb
[20:59] <Hawrombay> and thank you lordcirth
[20:59] <Seveas> riqj: is nm-applet killed or does NetworkManager itself stop?
[21:00] <Seveas> _adb, lordcirth: both of those still connect via ssh...
[21:00] <lordcirth> Seveas, yes, they do, but that's what he wanted.  He just didn't want a shell
[21:00] <_adb> Seveas: hence the question i asked... seems a case where the problem isn't the ssh, it's running commands remotely without requiring an interactive shell to do it
[21:01] <Seveas> lordcirth: that's not what he asked, he asked how to avoid connecting via ssh...
[21:01] <Hawrombay> improper phrasing, I apologize
[21:01] <Seveas> Hawrombay: well, just be glad we have two people who could read your mind. Still magic to me :)
[21:01] <_adb> Hawrombay: if you do pass commands as arguments to ssh, be careful with quoting and escaping characters. the string will be interpreted both locally and remotely
[21:02] <Seveas> and remotely it'll be passed to sh -c, so quoting can go even more wonky.
[21:04] <riqj> Seveas, when I open the lid of the laptop pc, and re-login, the wifi symbol and the network list is 1)sometimes disappears from the upper tray, as it is now 2) the wifi symbol is there, but only one strangely named network is shown
[21:04] <riqj> not every time, but often enough this happens
[21:04] <riqj> and in the former case, not even network manager restart can sometimes help
[21:04] <k1l> riqj: that sounds like a "module is loaded but the hardware wasnt ready yet" issue on resume
[21:05] <riqj> k1l, and while nothing about wifi is shown as it is the case now, I am yet connected
[21:05] <Seveas> k1l: neh, it's networkmanager going berserk
[21:05] <k1l> uh, ok
[21:06] <riqj> but sometimes, as in second case when a bizarre single network is displayed, I cant bring back the actual list of networks no matter what. so I need to restart the pc
[21:06] <Seveas> riqj: 3 solutions for 3 different situations. Not seeing your own network: sudo iwlist scan. icon gone but network works: nm-applet network all kinds of wonky: killall nm-applet, start nm-applet, restart network-manager
[21:07] <_adb> what would cause an ubuntu 14.04 machine (server install + packages to add a desktop environment) to join network (wired dhcp) no problem on boot, but then lose network connectivity 5-10 minutes later? consistently comes back (for a few minutes) after a reboot
[21:07] <riqj> Seveas, are each of these terminal commands as you wrote them?
[21:07] <Seveas> riqj: the applet and networkmanager itself can get out of sync in weird ways. I sometimes have to restart both after coming out of sleep. Got better with 16.04, but still happens.
[21:08] <riqj> Seveas, ironically, in my case, these began to occur with 16.04.
[21:08] <Seveas> riqj: the commands would be: sudo iwlist scan / killall nm-applet / nm-applet / sudo service network-manager restart
[21:09] <riqj> thank you very much Seveas, I will try these commands next time I have the problem
[21:11] <riqj> I was somehow disconnected..thank you very much Seveas, I will try these commands next time I have the problem
[21:14] <Genitrust> does anyone know of an easy way to only allow certain USB hard drives to mount under ubuntu?
[21:15] <rgenito> heh
[21:16] <_adb> rgenito: do you want to disallow all hard drives except specific one(s) from mounting, or do you want to allow mounting any hard drive, but do it automatically for some list of them?
[21:17] <hhee> hey! i have only suspend option in logout menu
[21:17] <k1l> rgenito: not a easy one.
[21:17] <hhee> but need a hibernate
[21:17] <hhee> how can i turn it on?
[21:17] <hhee> ubuntu 16 lts
[21:17] <rgenito> disallow ALL hard drives except "white listed" ones
[21:19] <oliverthered> healthy body healthy mind, mend the gap
[21:19] <Seveas> rgenito: you can prevent them from being automounted, but you can't prevent them from being manually mounted
[21:20] <arooni> looks like my ubuntu 16.04 installation is messed up;  when i run host mydomain.com i'm getting  Host not found; 2 (SERVFAIL)
[21:21] <rgenito> Seveas: ah ok
[21:21] <rgenito> i wish i could just find and "hook into" the mounting functionality for hard drives.....
[21:21] <rgenito> ...and the program my own rules >D
[21:21] <rgenito> well, i could if i knew where to start looking to find that functionality
[21:22] <_adb> rgenito: maybe this will be useful: https://github.com/dkopecek/usbguard "a software framework for implementing usb device authorization policies"
[21:22] <rgenito> ooo thanks :D
[21:22] <Sven_vB> i'm trying to find the license agreement for my locally installed version of gnome-icon-theme and gnome-icon-theme-extras. any ideas? most other icon themes have a license file in /usr/share/icons/$theme/, but not gnome
[21:22] <WellDone2094> hi, i have a problem with rEFInd, i installed ubuntu on my macbook with EFI boot and everything was working, than i wanted to install refind and set it as first boot option but the mac get stuck on black screen at boot while if i set ubuntu or mac as first boot option everything work
[21:23] <Sven_vB> I can't find a license info in aptitude show gnome-icon-theme either
[21:23] <rgenito> _adb: sweet, this may help
[21:23] <rgenito> anyone know how to disable the rj45 interface easily? ;D
[21:23] <rgenito> so you need root access to even be able to do ANYTHING with it? (or rip out that networking functionality all-together!!)
[21:24] <k1l> rgenito: sounds like you want a kiosk system
[21:24] <_adb> rgenito: i found that linked to on this thread: http://superuser.com/questions/820371/on-linux-how-do-i-enforce-a-whitelist-of-usb-devices which may also contain some useful information
[21:25] <Seveas> _adb: usbguard looks useful, thanks!
[21:25] <rgenito> ya ;D
[21:25] <rgenito> i wonder if it runs into the same udev problems i ran into...
[21:25] <rgenito> and a buddy of mine ran into..
[21:25] <Seveas> rgenito: epoxy resin will disable the rj45 port quite nicely.
[21:25] <rgenito> k1l: yup
[21:25] <rgenito> Seveas: ok that sounds like a good idea!
[21:25] <Melio> Lol
[21:26] <_adb> Seveas: hahaha. yeah, but re-enabling it might be a problem
[21:27] <Seveas> _adb: depends on the use case. If this is a 'ship once and trash if broken' setup, then who cares :)
[21:27] <Melio> I have win10/ubuntu 14x i wanna upgrade ubjntu to 16x is there a proper way to do this without user data loss
[21:27] <Melio> Ubuntu isnt a dictionary work on my phone, must correct that
[21:27] <Ben64> ubuntu 14 what
[21:28] <_adb> i can see it now though: "i disabled my ports with epoxy under ubuntu, and now they dont work on ANY os!" :-)
[21:28] <Melio> Lts version
[21:28] <Ben64> sudo do-release-upgrade
[21:28] <rgenito> ubjntu lol
[21:28] <Melio> 14.0.1 i think
[21:29] <k1l> Melio: "lsb_release -sd" will tell the version
[21:29] <Melio> Will do-relase-upgrade be ok? Im from a inplace upgrade failure culture of old fedora crashes
[21:29] <Melio> Im not on my computet
[21:29] <Melio> Pc
[21:29] <Melio> Im on a phone irc chat
[21:29] <Melio> Client
[21:29] <k1l> Melio: yes. that is the way to upgrade ubuntu
[21:30] <k1l> Melio: well you can run that command and tell us what the numbe ris that is the output
[21:30] <wsky> did anyone notice abnormal cpu usage of Xorg under 16.04 and intel gpu?
[21:30] <Melio> It won't mess with grub dual boot?
[21:30] <Melio> K1l i can.
[21:31] <Melio> Give me a moment, bootin linux
[21:31] <k1l> Melio: why should it mess with grub dual boot?
[21:31] <wsky> after some time of playing a opengl game xorg starts taking up one core and makes everything slugish forcing me to restart
[21:31] <rgenito> usb guard looks sweeet
[21:32] <Melio> K1l, it has to insert its version onbthe menu?
[21:32] <Melio> I guess it wont, butnincan edit it
[21:32] <k1l> Melio: i dont understand the issue.
[21:32] <Melio> Its a non issue, just a prediction
[21:33] <curlyears> heigh hough
[21:33] <rgenito> this USB Guard looks sweet @.@
[21:33] <k1l> Melio: if you have ubuntu manage the grub now already (which it does on a dualboot with win), then it does write a new grub menue on every kernel update already.
[21:33] <Melio> Why do I have to ask it as a prediction
[21:33] <rgenito> especially since you can have certain actions be run when a USB gets inserted :D
[21:33] <Melio> Ok
[21:34] <k1l> Melio: because what you think as prediction is happening once a week already. i dont understand how that should be an issue now :)
[21:34] <Melio> :)
[21:34] <WellDone2094> hi, i have a problem with rEFInd, i installed linux on my macbook with EFI boot and everything was working, than i wanted to install refind and set it as first boot option but the mac get stuck on black screen at boot while if i set ubuntu or mac as first boot option everything work
[21:35] <Melio> Im doing a release upgrade now, failure isnt going to bother me just like advisement to make things not fail because i simply didnt ask
[21:35] <Melio> Advisement
[21:36] <Melio> 14.04 btw
[21:37] <Melio> point release .5
[21:37] <Melio> I wonder if i can play Minecraft while this upgrades lol
[21:38] <Melio> Kust kidding im walkong away now so it can do ita thing
[21:38] <prometx> I am trying to upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04.1, but the do-release-upgrade complains about my apt version. I don't see a newer version in my repos, will I have to download a newer deb to achieve this?
[21:39] <lordcirth> prometx, you've done 'apt-get dist-upgrade' ?
[21:39] <amnix> In gnome-disks, the assessment says "Disk is OK, one failing attribute is failing." What does this mean?
[21:39] <k1l> prometx: run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" first
[21:39] <jatt> nope upgrade should work smoothly
[21:40] <Ben64> amnix: drive might be dying
[21:40] <k1l> prometx: and what was the exact message?
[21:40] <lordcirth> amnix, you should be able to click and get more info.  But it's a bad sign
[21:40] <amnix> lordcirth: how do I get more info?
[21:40] <Ben64> amnix: sudo smartctl -a <device>
[21:41] <prometx> lordcirth, no will try, k1l, ditto
[21:41] <lordcirth> amnix, I don't have gnome installed here.  There should be a button, option, or rightclick for more info
[21:42] <amnix> Ben64: "184 End-to-End_Error        0x0032   097   097   099    Old_age   Always   FAILING_NOW 3"
[21:42] <amnix> Ben64: Is this the failing attribute?
[21:42] <Ben64> looks like it
[21:42] <lordcirth> amnix, that is exactly what that says, yes
[21:43] <amnix> lordcirth: What is this though? This hdd isn't that old either. Just a year since I bought this laptop.
[21:43] <lordcirth> amnix, make sure you have good backups immediately
[21:44] <lordcirth> amnix, there is a list here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.M.A.R.T.  But mostly, it may fail soon
[21:44] <lordcirth> amnix, it's fine to keep using it, just make sure to make frequent, tested backups and keep an eye on it.  Or if it's still in warranty replace the drive.
[21:46] <amnix> lordcirth: on the wikipedia page, it says the end to end error is a critical attribute...
[21:47] <lordcirth> amnix, yup.
[21:47] <lordcirth> The drive is failing.  It's just a matter of when
[21:47] <amnix> lordcirth: no way to fix a failing drive right?
[21:47] <lordcirth> amnix, not practically, no
[21:48] <k1l> amnix: no. just make sure to backup important stuff and order a new disk
[21:48] <amnix> lordcirth: do drives have a tendency to start failing after just a year of purchase?
[21:48] <Ben64> drives die, they're actually pretty bad
[21:48] <lordcirth> amnix, if you do end up replacing it, consider an SSD :)
[21:48] <Ben64> thats why backups are important
[21:48] <Hawrombay> amnix: here
[21:49] <Ben64> a year you might still be covered under warranty
[21:49] <Hawrombay> ive seen that drives tend to fail around 20k-30k power on hours
[21:50] <Hawrombay> ive also seen drives fail at < 1000
[21:50] <Rebelnet> ahoy
[21:51] <lordcirth> Rebelnet, hi
[21:51] <Rebelnet> whats up
[21:51] <Rebelnet> ops
[21:53] <Rebelnet> oh Ubuntu, your my favorite linux base operating system
[21:53] <wsky> so anyone seen that issue on intel gpus?
[21:53] <Melio> Sing the song of our people
[21:53] <bipul> Do ubuntu comes with pre-install watchdog daemon? because i am unable to find it.
[21:53] <amnix> lordcirth: could this possibly be a software bug? how can I know for sure the hdd is faulty?
[21:53] <wsky> Melio: does it invole machine guns?
[21:53] <tgm4883> bipul: watchdog?
[21:53] <bipul> tgm4883, Yes.
[21:53] <lordcirth> amnix, the results are reported by the drive's controller.
[21:54] <tgm4883> bipul: like a clock app that has a background of a dog?
[21:54] <bipul> tgm4883, I am sorry?
[21:54] <lordcirth> amnix, you could try looking up your drive's make and model + "smart" and see if there are bug reports about it misreporting
[21:55] <tgm4883> bipul: are you asking if the app that is named "watchdog" is installed by default?
[21:55] <bipul> If you are talking about watchdog functionality then yes.
[21:55] <bipul> tgm4883, Yes.
[21:55] <tgm4883> !details | bipul
[21:55] <tgm4883> !info watchdog
[21:56] <tgm4883> bipul: the app named 'watchdog' is not installed by default
[21:58] <bipul> tgm4883, Thank you.
[21:58] <Term1nal> It's been about 4 months now, is there any chance that the issue with credentials to network locations in Nautilus/Files will actually save when prompted to save with the given option "Forever/Until Logut/etc" ?
[21:58] <Term1nal> It's been terribly frustrating.
[22:00] <arooni> did ubuntu 16.04 update shotwell such that it no longer has star ratings?
[22:01] <k1l> !info shotwell
[22:02] <arooni> yeah my grouped events seem to be gone too :(
[22:02] <k1l> arooni: did shotwell remove them from verison 0.18 to 0.22 that is shipped in 16.04 now?
[22:03] <arooni> nevermind; they are they
[22:03] <arooni> there ; i was looking under a list of events i hadnt sorted yet
[22:05] <MonkeyDust> arooni  glad i could help
[22:07] <Vady> Hey, where can I find the smtp server configuration?
[22:08] <lordcirth> Vady, for what?
[22:08] <MonkeyDust> Vady  in thunderbird?
[22:08] <Vady> ughm, no idea?
[22:08] <Vady> oh, ubuntu version, one sec
[22:08] <MonkeyDust> Vady  in which email client?
[22:09] <Vady> is there a command to find out the version
[22:09] <Vady> email client? the default one? I think
[22:09] <MonkeyDust> Vady  help > about, what does it say? thunderbird?
[22:10] <Vady> ughm, I have a terminal only version
[22:10] <Vady> or whatever you call that
[22:10] <Melio> Still in place upgrading
[22:11] <k1l> Vady: you have a clue what you do there at all? do you want to setup a email account in a email client? or do you want to run a smtp server?
[22:11] <MonkeyDust> Vady  'i think', 'whatever you call that', it's all a bit vague, start from the beginnen, what are you doing
[22:11] <Vady> I want to setup sendgrid
[22:11] <MonkeyDust> !info sendgrid
[22:12] <Vady> it's a 3rd party mailing system
[22:12] <Vady> And I have to "Change your SMTP username and password to your SendGrid credentials"
[22:13] <Vady> nevermind, I'm gonna use a library, thanks though.
[22:14] <Term1nal> Try this Vady: http://www.daveperrett.com/articles/2013/03/19/setting-up-sendmail-with-sendgrid-on-ubuntu/
[22:14] <Vady> Term1nal, thanks.
[22:17] <Term1nal> Anyone have an idea on just how I can rectify an issue with saved credentials in Nautilus/Files ?
[22:21] <cgiles> exit
[22:22] <w0jrl> Term1nal: To help you, we need more information. What kind of credentials do you have saved? What is not working the way you expect?
[22:24] <Term1nal> w0jrl: thanks for the reply. The credentials are to a Windows network share. In 14.04, I was able to have my credentials stored "forever" given the option on log-in.
[22:24] <Vady> Does anyone know how to do you make composer update everything?
[22:25] <Term1nal> It's a frequently accessed data store, and having to login again every day is cumbersome. The option simply seems to be ignored.
[22:25] <lordcirth> Vady, like what?
[22:26] <Vady> the libraries?
[22:26] <Term1nal> Similarly, I have a what I think is related issue with the application Konversation (my IRC client of choice) when connecting to networks that have self-signed certificates. I am unable to set a certificate exception for future sessions, The options "This Session Only" and "Forever" are effectively useless.
[22:26] <Term1nal> It may be unrelated to the first issue, but both of these issues occured when switching from 14.04 to 16.04.
[22:27] <Term1nal> It was a fresh installation as well, and not an upgrade.
[22:27] <Term1nal> ( back in april )
[22:27] <Vady> found it
[22:28] <prometx> Hi, did dist-upgrade, which completed successfully, but still get "The required denepdency 'apt (>=1.0.1ubuntu2.13)' is not installed
[22:29] <prometx> when trying do-release-upgrade
[22:29] <lordcirth> prometx, what apt version do you have?
[22:30] <danst> how do I prevent i915_bpo from loading? Adding "blacklist i915_bpo" to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf doesn't help
[22:30] <w0jrl> Term1nal: I also have to log into my shares everytime I want to access them. However, I have guest access enabled, so it's a little easier for me. Let me try to use an authorized account and see what happens.
[22:30] <lordcirth> danst, perhaps it is being loaded in initramfs
[22:31] <danst> lordcirth: I have updated initramfs
[22:31] <danst> lordcirth: maybe there's some initramfs-modules-special-place to put a blacklist string on
[22:31] <Term1nal> w0jrl, my credentials aren't changing daily, so I should be able to access my windows shares by rembembering the credentials in Nautilus. the option proves effectively useless between ubuntu login sessions.
[22:32] <Term1nal> The "remmeber until logout" does seem to work when unmounting the share and remounting it again while in the same ubuntu login session.
[22:32] <Term1nal> But "forever" does not function as expected.
[22:32] <lordcirth> danst, if you do "lsmod | grep  i915_bpo", are there any modules depending on it?
[22:32] <w0jrl> Term1nal: Checking...
[22:32] <prometx> exit
[22:32] <_adb> except for security patches what are some good reasons to upgrade a working server (12.04 in this case) to a newer version of ubuntu? it works now, and there are fears that any changes will break it
[22:33] <danst> lordcirth: probably should disable intel_ips also, thanks for pointing that out
[22:33] <Term1nal> _adb: incremental kernel changes that improve performance, I'd imagine.
[22:33] <lordcirth> danst, yes, if anything depends on it, you need to blacklist them too
[22:33] <Term1nal> _adb: I'd also say that the repos on 12.04 are -rather- stale at this point.
[22:34] <Term1nal> and growing nearer and nearer to the 5year cutoff of security patches.
[22:34] <Term1nal> as for "changes that will break it" it depends on the services you're running.
[22:35] <_adb> Term1nal: performance hasn't been an issue in the past, and workload isn't increasing. the fear of change is more human than technical in this case
[22:35] <Term1nal> 4+ years is a long time for services, could be major breaking changes in configurations/etc.
[22:36] <Term1nal> as well, not sure if systemd was on 12.04, can't remember.
[22:36] <Term1nal> not sure if that is a big deal or not.
[22:36] <_adb> systemd wasn't introduced until 15; not in lts until 16
[22:36] <Term1nal> My suggestion would be to migrate to a fresh 16.04 and re-configure your services to match.
[22:37] <Term1nal> What do you run on said server?
[22:37] <w0jrl> Term1nal: Saved creds work for me. You might want to file a bug against Nautilus.
[22:37] <Term1nal> w0jrl: as far as I am aware there has been a bug already filed.
[22:37] <Term1nal> It's been plaguing me since april.
[22:38] <Term1nal> I don't want to nuke it and start over for something so trivial.
[22:38] <stepanfichtner> hey
[22:38] <_adb> Term1nal: i agree. that's what i have in mind, but i need to bring more compelling arguments than "the newer version is shinier" to my supervisors before they'll sign off on the time. the server does dhcp, some web caching,... nothing too intense
[22:38] <Term1nal> my hope is that it's a permission thing or something.
[22:38] <w0jrl> Do you have the bug report number?
[22:39] <chalcedny> _adb, the security being more up to date is usually enough. everything gets hacked these days and that IS expensive
[22:39] <Term1nal> _adb: that might be the good way to sell it "painless migration, since all we're doing is <x> <y>, and we're nearing the end of our lifespan on security backports, better to get on the ball early rather than be behind when the next heartbleed is found."
[22:39] <w0jrl> NVM, found it.
[22:41] <Term1nal> I ususally find that threatening "the next heartbleed" in terms of upgrades as a good way to get mangers to approve.
[22:41] <_adb> chalcedny: Term1nal: thanks for the input. i'll see if that works
[22:42] <chalcedny> good luck _adb :)
[22:45] <Term1nal> _adb: if they need further convincing, maybe show them the latest "mega vuln" with that TCP exploit that was recently discovered.
[22:45] <Term1nal> "oh, 12.04 is vulnerable, the newest kernel has it fixed already!"
[22:49] <kmcc> irc.freenode.net
[22:49] <kmcc> #robocraft
[22:51] <w0jrl> Term1nal: Is this the bug you were referring to? !LP: #1318124
[22:52] <Term1nal> should append to that Windows shares and not just SFTP :P
[22:59] <AmedioYyo> Good night
[22:59] <Term1nal> ty w0jrl, time to take off, peace out
[23:00] <AmedioYyo> I have a problem with Blender. I can not see the cube in object mode but yes in edit mode. Could you help me?
[23:02] <AmedioYyo> What driver is off?
[23:02] <AmedioYyo> Could you help me, please?
[23:03] <AmedioYyo> Any idea?
[23:04] <_adb> AmedioYyo: is hardware acceleration enabled? what video card are you using?
[23:09] <AmedioYyo> I do not know this. But Blender in first is operated. The problem come when I install other programs. What driver is broken?
[23:11] <wsky> AmedioYyo: contact the blender support
[23:12] <AmedioYyo> I try to solve this problem in blender chats but nobody gave my the solution
[23:14] <AmedioYyo> Thanks a lot. Good night. bye
[23:17] <Sinnerman> Hellooo!!!!
[23:17] <lordcirth> Sinnerman, hi
[23:17] <ksft> I'm not sure if this is a good place to ask this, but I'm trying to learn how to use SSH. I have OpenSSH and a public key. How do I get it to use the key?
[23:18] <Sinnerman> How would I go about getting my current box to determine the IP of a second box that connects to my intranet via DHCP so I could use their hostname to ssh into them? Automatically...
[23:18] <ksft> everything I can find about this seems to assume you already know such a basic thing
[23:19] <_adb> ksft: put your ssh public key in $HOME/.ssh/authorized_keys on the remote machine and ensure that this file (and the containing directory) have appropriate permissions set
[23:19] <th0r> Sinnerman, if I understand your question, you would add a line to the /etc/hosts file. That would permit you to enter 'ssh hostname' instead of 'ssh ip'
[23:19] <wsky> ksft: use ssh-copy-id user@host to install the key on the server
[23:19] <ksft> _adb: what are the appropriate permissions?
[23:20] <Sinnerman> th0r: It works if it is a static IP. How do I do this with a dynamically allocated IP via DHCP?
[23:20] <ksft> wsky: How do I give ssh-copy-id the key?
[23:20] <th0r> Sinnerman, only if the other node is handled through dns. If you are talking about local nodes, you would have to run your own dns
[23:20] <wsky> ksft: well first you need to generate it with ssh-keygen
[23:20] <dowwie> how do I go about raising an issue related to Ubuntu 16.0.4 with regards to the python3.5 that it comes packaged with?
[23:20] <OerHeks> pretty good ssh guide
[23:20] <OerHeks> !ssh
[23:21] <wsky> ksft: then just ssh-copyid to the server
[23:21] <_adb> ksft: on the remote machine ensure that only the owning user can write to the directory .ssh and to the file authorized_keys in that file. on your local machine, ensure that only you have read permissions of the private key. use ls -l to check what the permissions and ownership are currently, and chmod/chown if necessary to change them
[23:21] <dowwie> ?help issue
[23:21] <OerHeks> dowwie, you can ask here, or file a bugreport?
[23:22] <ksft> I'm trying to connect to my computer from my phone, just to learn about SSH.
[23:22] <Sinnerman> th0r: I know the machine broadcasts its hostname, because if I use fing on my android phone (some kinda network scanner), it correctly detects the hostname. I was wondering if we had a similar functionality on *NIX for this.
[23:22] <Sinnerman> And to add this on the fly to /etc/hosts.
[23:22] <ksft> Does the key include the "ssh-rsa" part at the beginning?
[23:22] <malex_> hi
[23:22] <ksft> the part I should put in ~/.ssh/authorized_keys, that is
[23:22] <th0r> Sinnerman, as far as I know...for ssh you need the ip. Additionally, I disable dns lookup on my ssh client as it slows things down while it tries to access dns.
[23:23] <ksft> er, authorised_keys
[23:23] <_adb> ksft: yes, that is your public key. it should be named something like "id_rsa.pub"
[23:23] <th0r> Sinnerman, all my nodes on my network run static ip for just that reason.
[23:23] <dowwie> OerHeks:  are you running 16.04?  you should be able to see this issue too
[23:23] <ksft> oh, I got it!
[23:24] <ksft> I spelled it with an S because I thought I read that somewhere
[23:24] <Sinnerman> th0r: I would too, except I have guests at mine, and my wife's devices. I could configure the router to assign static IPs to a couple of the boxes I guess.
[23:24] <dowwie> the problem I found in 16.04, Python3.5 default library, can be replicated in one of two ways and is related to the cryptography library
[23:24] <th0r> Sinnerman, if you are talking about guests on your local net, you would have to run your own dns to get it to work. Would pose quite an interesting project <smile>
[23:24] <_adb> ksft: now i'm curious: is there localization set up so that it's going to look at your quaint spelling of authorized? did you save the key in .ssh/authorized_keys or .ssh/authorised_keys?
[23:25] <dowwie> if someone with 16.04 were to try to "pip install --upgrade cryptography" they would see an openssl exception raise
[23:25] <Sinnerman> th0r, and I bought a Mac Mini so I didn't have to worry about tinkering with this stuff.
[23:25] <dowwie> this is the installation page for the cryptrography library:  https://cryptography.io/en/latest/installation/
[23:25] <th0r> Sinnerman, if you are limiting to one guest at a time, limit your wifi router to one dhcp address, then you will always know the guest is that address
[23:26] <dowwie> the other way to replicate the exception is by creating a new python3.5 virtual environment and trying to pip install cryptography
[23:26] <Sinnerman> th0r: I'm looking at the router settings. I think I can assign static IPs based on MAC addresses.
[23:26] <promet> trying to update 14.04 to 16.04.1, seems like I need to be at 14.04.4 to do this successfully, but dist-upgrade cannot get me there, any thoughts?
[23:26] <th0r> Sinnerman, that was going to be my next suggestion <smile>
[23:28] <dowwie> OerHeks:  thoughts?
[23:28] <Guest9300> Hey I have a quick question about apt and how it caches entries in /etc/apt/source.list.d. For example, say I installed golang by adding a golang.list and then did apt install golang. This works. Then I uninstall golang and remove the golang.list. In that scenario, I shouldn't be able to apt install golang anymore, right? Or would golang.list be cached somewhere?
[23:28] <OerHeks> dowwie, reading ...
[23:29] <Keitaro> hey guys do you know if we can upgrade our ubuntu if we got a very old version
[23:29] <OerHeks> dowwie, i see a lot of simular problems, related to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python3.5/+bug/1574892
[23:29] <Keitaro> i mean i would like to install ubuntu on my notebook and i have an old live cd
[23:29] <Keitaro> instead of burn a new cd because i have no cd rom ^^
[23:30] <_adb> Keitaro: can you install from a usb disk instead of cd drive?
[23:30] <bazhang> what version Keitaro
[23:30] <Keitaro> old version i have the 10.10
[23:31] <Keitaro> no i don't have usb :/
[23:31] <bazhang> Keitaro, thats long end of life support, so not really doable
[23:31] <Keitaro> if i install with 10.10 can i upgrade to the last version after ?
[23:31] <Keitaro> ah oki
[23:31] <bazhang> get the latest 16.04
[23:32] <OerHeks> 10.10 > 11.04>11.10>12.04 > 14.04 > 16.04
[23:32] <Keitaro> arf i see
[23:32] <Keitaro> ah yeah
[23:32] <_adb> Keitaro: do you mean that you cannot burn new cds, but you happen to have an old 10.10 disk around, so you're hoping to install that and upgrade to latest?
[23:32] <Keitaro> i have 1giga bit usb drive is it enough ?
[23:32] <Keitaro> jut found it
[23:33] <Keitaro> 1 gb
[23:33] <Keitaro> yes _adb i thought about that
[23:33] <bazhang> get a two gb one Keitaro
[23:33] <Keitaro> no it is only 1 gb
[23:33] <Keitaro> don't have more
[23:34] <bazhang> yes, purchse one that is larger
[23:34] <Keitaro> arf
[23:35] <dowwie> OerHeks:  it may be a related issue but.. I literally just net install the newest ubuntu version today and still got the issue.. and they closed that ticket
[23:35] <Keitaro> because if i remember before we can burn a live cd on ubuntu with only a simple cd
[23:35] <_adb> Keitaro: the server install is <1gb. that'd fit on your usb stick, but wouldn't give you many things you may expect, like a graphical environment
[23:35] <bazhang> Keitaro, the cd sized ones are long gone
[23:36] <OerHeks> dowwie, maybe worth to file a new one?
[23:36] <OerHeks> !bug
[23:36] <dowwie> OerHeks:  reading through how to file one .. discouraged me from trying!
[23:36] <_adb> Keitaro: lubuntu may be a better option for you than ubuntu server... those isos are <1gb as well
[23:36] <Keitaro> _abd is it possible to install with my 1gb usb and after download all other package need from the net ?
[23:37] <_adb> Keitaro: yes
[23:37] <bazhang> Keitaro, get the mini iso for that
[23:37] <Keitaro> oki thx
[23:37] <bazhang> !mini | Keitaro
[23:37] <backbox> hi
[23:37] <backbox> i am a sexy cute little girl
[23:37] <Keitaro> oki i will do that thx
[23:37] <backbox> show me ur boobs
[23:38] <Keitaro> before i did that with arch so with ubuntu it won't be so hard
[23:38] <bazhang> thats correct Keitaro
[23:39] <Langley> Help, sometimes when unplugging/plugging an external monitor to my laptop, the screen(s) goes crazy with rainbow snow or blinking, fan goes to 100% and I can only force shut down. Running Ubuntu MATE 16.04
[23:39] <dowwie> oh my god what a fucking horrible bug reporting process
[23:39] <bazhang> nocursing here dowwie
[23:44] <Langley> Guess I should file a bug report too? What info do I need to add?
[23:47] <OerHeks> if you connect  an ext monitor properly, turned off, and FN key on your laptop set to internal monitor, then this should not happen
[23:48] <OerHeks> just janking the plug, well .. i am glad it is not broken
[23:48] <Langley> It's HDMI, pretty sure it's hot pluggable
[23:55] <danst> guys, can't blacklist i915_bpo
[23:55] <danst> please help
[23:56] <danst> updating initramfs doesn't help, xenial, grub in efi
[23:56] <danst> anything I do results in rebooting and seeing i915_bpo loaded in lsmod
[23:57] <nacc> danst: did you try modprobe.blacklist=i915_bpo passed to your kernel?
[23:57] <danst> hm sounds cool, will try
[23:58] <OerHeks> sudo update-initramfs -u will help too
[23:59] <danst> doesn't