[00:03] <FManTropyx> hm, systemctl said "Unknown operation postfix.", so I just 'postfix reload'
[00:52] <FManTropyx> is it normal that postfix is running as 'master'?
[00:58] <sarnold> FManTropyx: different parts run as different users; I haven't investigated lately but that's probably correct
[01:02] <lunaphyte> that's quite correct, yes
[01:03] <lunaphyte> postfix's "root" executable is named master.  all other postfix processes are children of master
[01:09] <antipsychiatry> Please help humanity to ABOLISH this fucking TOTAL FRAUD : psychiatry !!!!!!!!!!!!And put psychiatrists in jail. Please visit antipsychiatry.org
[01:10] <Ussat> die
[01:10] <Ussat> ban the spammer please
[01:10] <Ussat> or subject him to shock therapy
[01:10] <antipsychiatry> Hey mither Fuck???. Read the link.enter read
[01:11] <Ussat> die spammer
[01:11] <elky> antipsychiatry: please don't spam here
[01:11] <antipsychiatry> Shut up. Clone bastard.
[01:11] <Ussat> can we get a op to ban him/it/whatever
[01:11] <dax> phunyguy: hi
[01:11] <antipsychiatry> Hybrid man. Shut up.
[01:12] <Ussat> Oh...subject it to electroshock......that should help it
[01:12] <Ussat> maby a lobotomy
[01:12] <antipsychiatry> Mother fuk u country
[01:13] <antipsychiatry> Where u from ussa?
[01:13] <Ussat> No actually
[01:13] <Ussat> dude, take your meds and go to sleep
[01:15] <Ussat> Thank you elky
[05:00] <lillian> good job
[05:40] <cpaelzer> good morning
[06:29] <BadboyKAS>  check out my game changing idea http://pastebin.ca/3704261
[06:47] <b-yeezi> hi all/
[06:48] <b-yeezi> I'm having an issue with lxd and systemd. When I try to start the service it always fails with a dependency error.
[06:49] <b-yeezi> running it from the terminal works
[06:54] <b-yeezi> I have not made any changes to the service
[08:39] <LostSoul> Hello
[08:39] <LostSoul> I'm using libnss-ldap to authenticate to AD. Recently I've notice that there are some problems. First prompt for user password can take up to 30-60 sec, and second after proper login can take up to 30-60 sec
[08:39] <LostSoul> Any idea how to debug this? I have other servers configured in similar way and AD login works like a charm (up to 3-5 sec to login)
[08:39] <LostSoul> Ubuntu 14.04
[09:11] <jamespage> ddellav, coreycb: I've done a little catchup in d-exp for oslo + other deps
[09:11] <jamespage> I'll leave it up to you two to resync
[09:12] <jamespage> hopefully will get python-os-vif in the queue today
[09:16] <cpaelzer> jamespage: welcome back
[09:16] <jamespage> cpaelzer, ditto :-)
[09:16] <cpaelzer> jamespage: I've seen you updated the OVS to 2.6 on 22nd - and we have a real release if I read the ML right
[09:16] <cpaelzer> yeah
[09:17]  * jamespage looks
[09:17] <cpaelzer> jamespage: do you think you could upload the DPDK ubuntu2 I prepared before vacation to unblock the OVS&DPDK mirgration through proposed?
[09:17] <cpaelzer> or are there other blockers ahead I didn't spot yet
[09:17] <jamespage> cpaelzer, apologies that got lost in holiday brain
[09:17] <jamespage> cpaelzer, I'll deal with that now
[09:17] <cpaelzer> jamespage: no need to excuse at all, that is what holidays are for
[09:18] <jamespage> cpaelzer, remind me again where it it?
[09:18] <jamespage> oh no worries I found it
[09:18] <cpaelzer> jamespage: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-server/dpdk/+git/dpdk/+ref/ubuntu-yakkety-dpdk16.07
[09:20] <jamespage> cpaelzer, ok uploading now
[09:28] <cpaelzer> jamespage: thanks, I'll look at build and update excuses in a few hours then to make sure we catch it if something still breaks
[09:28] <jamespage> great -ta
[09:34] <ducasse> i've noticed a weird thing with an lxc container on 16.04. inside the container 'free -m' reports 350mb used, while lxc-info reports "memory use" as 25gb. for other containers the numbers match, and the host is clearly not using >25gb. should i try the lxc packages in proposed?
[09:58] <DelphiWorld> Hi  UbuntuGeeks
[09:58] <DelphiWorld> i have 2 ubuntu servers using a 100mb link, why upload is only 11mb bethwan them?
[10:09] <rbasak> DelphiWorld: are you aware that link speeds are usually in megaBITS (per second), and transfer speeds are usually in megaBYTES (per second)? With overheads, there's usually a 10x difference between them, so that sounds about right.
[10:12] <DelphiWorld> rbasak: no, you just informed me.
[10:12] <DelphiWorld> rbasak: so my situation is normal
[10:25] <dvig> Hi UbuntuLovers! i have a problem with mysql configuration on last linux mint x64. when i install a webapp a get the error - Error — MySQL thread stack should be 256kb.i make changes in /ect/mysql/my.cnf - [mysqld] thread_stack = 256k, save, restart mysql and apache and nothing changes( pls help
[10:26] <ducasse> !mint | dvig
[10:28] <dvig> thanks!
[11:22] <LostSoul> I'm using libnss-ldap to authenticate to AD. Recently I've notice that there are some problems. First prompt for user password can take up to 30-60 sec, and second after proper login can take up to 30-60 sec
[11:22] <LostSoul> Any idea how to debug this? I have other servers configured in similar way and AD login works like a charm (up to 3-5 sec to login)
[11:52] <lunaphyte> LostSoul: don't use that software.  it's old and abandoned
[12:13] <LostSoul> What should I use instead?
[12:15] <lunaphyte> nss-pam-ldapd
[12:24] <coreycb> jamespage, thanks for the updates
[12:54] <Ussat> I find it odd, that RHEL does not povide up to dat bioperl etc and other genetic manipulation libraries and ubuntu does.....every thing I needed for these specialised systems was avaliable from Ubunto, while almost none from RHEL
[12:54] <Ussat> not a complaint or anything, just a observation
[12:54] <Ussat> We have thus settled on Ubuntu for our researchers..
[12:59] <rbasak> Ussat: for specialist packages it usually just comes down to the interest of somebody maintaining in Debian or Fedora AIUI.
[13:00] <rbasak> Ussat: and with fewer users the maintainers often appreciate all the help they can get. If it matters to you, please consider finding out/offering help and volunteering, to make sure support doesn't go away.
[13:04] <Ussat> rbasak, I am talking to the owners of a few of the genetic algo packages to help out
[13:04] <Ussat> I was just suprised to find ALL of the libs I needed avaliable and up to date on Ubuntu when so few were avaliable in RHEL is all
[13:06] <rbasak> Ussat: thanks! Perhaps it polarises because of previous availability.
[13:07] <Ussat> My researchers work pretty close with these guys, http://useast.ensembl.org/index.html, and they also work on maintaining them. I am going through them because of already established relationship
[13:09] <Ussat> One of the things we are doing here is building a "meta" package, that inclused all the genetic libs that are needed for them
[13:09] <Ussat> I already have a prototype we are testing
[13:25] <jonah> hi I seem to have lost the internet on one of my servers - it is set up with auto dhcp but when I ping anything i get "unknown host" - my router is working fine and providing internet for other computers/devices no problem... Any ideas or help would be appreciated
[13:25] <lunaphyte> can you ping via ip address?
[13:27] <jonah> lunaphyte: ah yes - so it's the dns nameservers that have been wiped out??
[13:27] <lunaphyte> cat /etc/resolv.conf
[13:27] <lunaphyte> you tell us
[13:29] <jonah> lunaphyte: just has nameserver 127.0.0.1 in that file...
[13:29] <lunaphyte> you're running nameserver software in that computer?
[13:30] <lunaphyte> or is this yet another instance of this absurd dnsmasq garbage?
[13:30] <Ussat> might be useing NM...
[13:30] <jonah> lunaphyte: no it's just a backup server, but it does have apache for cups and a few things like that
[13:30] <lunaphyte> do you have a nameserver running on your network?
[13:30] <jonah> lunaphyte: it's always worked great, just logged in to do some apt updates and noticed it can no longer connect
[13:30] <Ussat> my /etc/resolv.congf has http://useast.ensembl.org/index.html
[13:30] <Ussat> bah
[13:31] <Ussat> # Dynamic resolv.conf(5) file for glibc resolver(3) generated by resolvconf(8)
[13:31] <Ussat> #     DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN
[13:31] <Ussat> nameserver 127.0.1.1
[13:31] <Ussat> and my search domain
[13:31] <lunaphyte> blech
[13:31] <Ussat> sorry
[13:31] <jonah> lunaphyte: it jus get's it's internet auto from router and dhcp, I've never set any nameservers or other settings, just plugged the cable in and it's always worked ok...
[13:32] <Ussat> and I have static IP's
[13:34] <jonah> so any ideas how I can get the internet working again?
[13:43] <jamespage> ddellav, coreycb: updated os-win uploaded to exp and to yakkety
[13:44] <xnox> smb, heya https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libvirt/2.1.0-1ubuntu4 is in =)
[13:46] <smb> xnox, yeah... saw that you waited just long enough until I made a no change ppa upload with the previous version. :-P
[13:46] <xnox> not intentionally.... =)
[13:48] <smb> :)
[13:49] <smb> xnox, I wait until its done publishing and then pull it in
[13:51] <smb> xnox, oh btw, I got reminded yesterday that there is a libvirt-python which is usually in lockstep. But I think that is not part of what I can upload. Would you mind merging that from Debian?
[13:53] <xnox> and it's behind libvirt in debian? 2.0.0 vs 2.1.0?
[13:55] <xnox> unless libvirt-python will be backported to cloud archive without libvirt, it can be synced now i think.
[13:55] <smb> xnox, hm yeah apparently. Not sure it needs to be in absolute lockstep. Thoug Ubuntu now would be rather behind in yakkety
[13:55] <xnox> forcing a sync package.
[13:56] <xnox> i bet that breaks the feature freeze... #YOLO
[13:57] <smb> xnox, only a little bit... I should have thought about it when rushing with libvirt itself but then again I may have failed with the upload
[14:43] <jamespage> coreycb, I might take a run through the updates to oslo package in exp so we can resync from their
[14:43] <jamespage> all our orig tarballs will be mismatched atm
[14:46] <jonah_> lunaphyte: ah the devices that can ping I've realised are using google dns already - so it seems nothing is getting dns from my router on the network?
[14:46] <lunaphyte> do you have a nameserver running on your network?
[14:47] <jonah_> lunaphyte: yeah, I have a server running but that's working ok externally and also internally has internet connection - but no other local lan devices have internet.
[14:48] <lunaphyte> i'm confused
[14:48] <jonah_> lunaphyte: what is weird though is I just upgraded the server from 14.04 to 16.04 and it is since then that things have stopped working right
[14:48] <lunaphyte> what nameserver software are you running?
[14:49] <jonah_> lunaphyte: well I'm running a LAMP server behind a nat router with bind... But I don't know if I have nameserver software running
[14:49] <Ussat> you are running bind ?
[14:49] <lunaphyte> bind is nameserver software
[14:49] <jonah_> lunaphyte: but what is weird as I say is it did work ok before I upgraded from 14.04... So how do I set bind to still work so I can use my server from the outside but still enable my internal lan computers to have internet?
[14:50] <jonah_> lunaphyte: the upgrade must have stripped out a few config settings or something?
[14:50] <Ussat> Why are you running your own nameserver ?
[14:51] <jonah_> Ussat: so I can point domains to my server
[14:51] <lunaphyte> you don't need to run your own nameserver to do that
[14:52] <Ussat> running your own nameserver is not trivial
[14:54] <Ussat> I used to mange bind at last position.....not something I want to ever do again
[15:24] <coreycb> jamespage, ok thanks
[15:24] <jgrimm> smb, followup from irc meeting.. cpaelzer will take the python-libvirt merge
[15:24] <smb> jgrimm, maybe xnox did now
[15:24] <jgrimm> smb, oh cool even better!
[15:25] <smb> jgrimm, I am not sure I just asked him as return for adding things to libvirt and me updating the git tree
[15:25] <smb> so it may or may not have happened
[15:26] <jgrimm> cpaelzer, ^^^
[15:28] <xnox> jgrimm, i did a force sync, the delta we had is no longer needed, give that libvirt itself got merged.
[15:29] <xnox> if things are backported, one would need to backport libvirt-python together with libvirt.
[15:29] <jgrimm> xnox, ah.. good deal. thanks!
[15:29] <xnox> cpaelzer, ^^^^
[15:29] <xnox> cpaelzer, python-libvirt was forced synced =)
[15:30] <xnox> cause the alt recommends no longer needed with new libvirt in yakkety (?!)
[16:05] <blizzow> I have my xenial install on an mdadm software raid 1 disk made of two spinner disks.  They're not extra fast disks (1TB SATA seagate constellation 7200RPM), but every time I do a system update/upgrade,package installation, dpkg gets hung in a D state for long periods of time. Strangely enough, I have some VMs running on network storage and am seeing weirdness with dpkg hanging in D state too.
[16:08] <blizzow> anyone here seeing strange disk behavior with dpkg/aptitude lately?
[16:11] <xmj> moin
[16:11] <xmj> what's a good repo to find a zabbix-server built with sqlite support, for ubuntu 16.04?
[17:28] <nacc> xmj: i don't think there is such, maybe you could search ppas, but neither debian nor ubuntu builds such (afaict)
[18:10] <blizzow> over in #lvm, they're saying there are some serious LVM/mdadm performance issues with the 4.1-4.4 kernel series. They're saying go with the 4.6 series.  Will these instructions work for 16.04.1 server as well:
[18:10] <blizzow> https://raonyguimaraes.com/how-to-install-kernel-4-6-on-ubuntu-16-04-xenial/
[18:16] <sarnold> blizzow: yes, but you'll step off the easy path of security and bug fixes that way
[18:16] <sarnold> blizzow: so be sure to check back for new kernels in yakkety every three weeks
[18:17] <sarnold> blizzow: and once yakkety is released as 16.10, install the linux-lts-yakkety based kernel packages. (they don't exist yet, but they probably will soon enough.)
[18:20] <blizzow> sarnold: Can/should I use the lowlatency kernel for a server with spinners?
[18:21] <patdk-wk> heh?
[18:21] <patdk-wk> what does lowlatency kernel have to do with spinners?
[18:22] <patdk-wk> and after yakkety has been around for awhile, you will need to update to the next one, all the way to the next lts kernel
[18:23] <sarnold> blizzow: if you mean spinning metal drives, no, there's no need for the low-latency kernel for those. spinning metal drives are positively glacial in comparison to cpus these days..
[18:23] <sarnold> standard linux kernel isn't too bad with latency anyway
[18:23] <patdk-wk> isn't that what interrupt wires are for? :)
[18:26] <patdk-wk> well, guess the dates of interrupt wires went away with pci slots
[18:32] <sarnold> now there's complicated huge piles of programmable interrupts etc etc but when the drive takes 8ms to do anything, whether or not the kernel responds in 1000ns or 2000ns is hardly important :)
[18:39] <blizzow> sarnold: any chance the 4.6 kernel will be backported into the standard updates with such a glaring performance problem?
[18:40] <nacc> blizzow: they never (afaik) backport an entire kernel.
[18:40] <nacc> blizzow: the kernel team would probably consider a bug and well-defined patches to backport
[18:41] <sarnold> blizzow: it'll happen as the linux-lts-yakkety tree when they do; it might be 4.6, or 4.7, or 4.8. It's hard to tell from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Newsletter what exactly they'll use in two months..
[18:42] <nacc> i think 16.10 will be 4.8 based (afair)
[18:42] <nacc> i guess the "also" makes it unclear, though :)
[18:42] <sarnold> yeah, I understand linus went on a week-long vacation with no regard for our kernel cadence scheduling!
[18:44] <nacc> heh
[18:44] <nacc> also, i think there is going to be 'rolling' hwe in 16.04?
[18:44] <nacc> e.g., linux-image-generic-hwe-rolling; not sure if that actually is happening or not
[18:44] <nacc> in which case you wouldn't need to keep installing specific release packages, it would just track (aiui)
[18:44] <sarnold> oh? would that be in place of the four different hwe stacks? or just select the newest of the four when each is released in turn?
[18:45] <nacc> http://osdir.com/ml/kernel-team/2016-08/msg00042.html e.g.
[18:46] <nacc> i'm trying to see if they concluded anything
[18:47] <sarnold> neat
[18:47] <blizzow> I'm rating this server release "Star Trek 5 - The Voyage Home"
[18:48]  * patdk-wk doesn't remember this movie
[18:48] <nacc> sarnold: i think it will make the overall sense of which hwe stack is supported now a bit clearer (again, aiui)
[18:48] <blizzow> It's better than "Indiana Jones 4 - The Crystal Skull." but not by much.
[18:49] <sarnold> iv was voyage home; v was final frontier
[18:50] <blizzow> shit, you're right.
[18:50]  * patdk-wk hands sarnold a whale
[18:50] <blizzow> I'm rating this as "Star Trek 5 - The Final Frontier"
[18:56] <blizzow> So I went to install these updated yakkety kernel debs. It's puking on generating grub configuration file.  grub-probe: error: disk `lvmid/SlhbwL-8mlj-po1k-RSzz-LOSU-M44o-uFwyMP/JGf7wM-woXo-yqVw-u7hV-9pty-7goP-guhjg8' not found.
[19:44] <xmj> nacc: gotcha
[19:47] <nacc> blizzow: what updated yakkety kernel debs?
[19:49] <TAFB> I'm trying to follow this guide (to install a windows vm on my linux vm): https://www.howtoforge.com/tutorial/running-virtual-machines-with-virtualbox-5.1-on-a-headless-ubuntu-16.04-lts-server/
[19:49] <TAFB> but when I run the 5th step: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential virtualbox-5.1 dkms
[19:49] <TAFB> I get: Unable to locate package linux-headers-2.6.32-042stab116.2
[19:49] <sarnold> 2.6.32
[19:50] <sarnold> sounds like you don't have a real server but a VPS running openvz or something
[19:50] <patdk-wk> heh?
[19:50] <patdk-wk> why are you installing 2.6.32?
[19:50] <TAFB> yep, monster vps :)
[19:50] <TAFB> won't work?
[19:50] <patdk-wk> the *guide* says ubuntu 16.04, and 2.6.32 doesn't exist
[19:50] <patdk-wk> nope
[19:50] <patdk-wk> you need a real vm, not a vps
[19:50] <patdk-wk> and you cannot run a vm inside a vm
[19:51] <patdk-wk> well, yo ucan, but not very good
[19:51] <TAFB> ahhh, virtualbox won't run in a vps?
[19:51] <patdk-wk> it will have to use software virtualization, so 32bit only
[19:51] <patdk-wk> no 64bit support, and it will be EXTREEMLY slow
[19:51] <TAFB> i'd like to give it a try, windows will only be doing a pretty basic task
[19:51] <TAFB> software I use doesn't work well under wine :(
[19:52] <patdk-wk> well, you need atleast a vm
[19:52] <sarnold> I suspect it's not going to work well on a virtualbox running on an openvz vps either :)
[19:52] <sarnold> here a pal showed me this a few minutes ago, looks cheap and easy https://www.scaleway.com/
[19:53] <TAFB> I bought the 8gb one (one in dallas, one in montreal): https://www.ssdnodes.com/startup-specials/?s=wht
[19:54] <TAFB> speed is freaking retarded nice
[19:54] <TAFB> compiles ffmpeg in seconds :D
[19:56] <rattking> Hello, I upgraded from 12.04 to 16.04 (not a distupgrade but a debootstrap rootfs switch) and now the post-up rules in my interfaces file are not running correctly.. but if I add a sleep 1; before the ip route add it does work correctly.. any ideas on how I can get that working without adding a sleep?. oh also without the sleep everything works if I restart networking after boot.. this feels like a
[19:56] <rattking> race condition somewhere
[20:23] <blizzow> nacc: The ones mentioned in this article.  https://raonyguimaraes.com/how-to-install-kernel-4-6-on-ubuntu-16-04-xenial/
[20:25] <blizzow> The headers-all headers-amd64 and generic image.
[20:27] <rattking> so after adding some logging I see the order the interfaces come up in changes when I add the sleep 1;
[20:37] <nacc> blizzow: why would you choose 4.6.0 (vs. 4.6.7 (which is already EOL it seems) vs. 4.7.2 (which is current -stable upstream))?
[21:01] <blizzow> nacc, I don't know.  Where would I get that or see that that is 4.7.2 the kernel I would want to install?
[21:04] <eatingthenight> hello, i'm trying to create a bootstrap image that I can boot with KVM however I am having a hard time installing grub into the debootstrapped environment properly I keep getting a `grub-install: error: /tmp/filemVBblO doesn't look like an EFI partition` error
[21:04] <eatingthenight> let me post my script one sec
[21:06] <eatingthenight> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23086306/
[21:06] <coreycb> beisner, hello, can you promote the following to mitaka-proposed?  aodh 2.0.4-0ubuntu1~cloud0, cinder 2:8.1.0-0ubuntu1~cloud0, keystone 2:9.1.0-0ubuntu1~cloud0, nova 2:13.1.1-0ubuntu1~cloud0
[21:09] <beisner> hi coreycb - promoted aodh, cinder, keystone, nova to uca mitaka-proposed re: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1614131
[21:10] <coreycb> beisner, awesome, thanks
[21:11] <beisner> coreycb, you're welcome.  thanks for the point release work
[21:14] <eatingthenight> think i figured it out... just me not knowning enough about uefi
[21:14] <eatingthenight> looks like i needed to have a partion formated as vfat that it installed to
[22:22] <nacc> blizzow: well, i mean what made you want to install 4.6? sorry, i'm lacking context. But even if you wanted 4.6, you rarely if ever want x.y.0, as it just a point in time (sort of). You want the latest stable release in that series (imo).
[22:23] <sarnold> nacc: he's found some performance regressions in lvm or md or something that is causing him enough trouble that he wants the newer kernel
[22:23] <nacc> sarnold: ah i see
[23:22] <rostam> Hi using ubuntu 14.04, we got an issue with the server boot,I like to start the services one at time, is there an option with grub I can do that please?
[23:23] <patdk-lap> no
[23:23] <rostam> patdk: I see, the reason I said that is I can do that with Redhat.
[23:24] <patdk-lap> hmm?
[23:25] <rostam> Is there any suggestion to figure out what is failing during boot and why init script hangs ?? thank you
[23:31] <RoyK> rostam: why would you want to do that?
[23:31] <RoyK> rostam: with 16.04 and newer rhel/centos you have systemd which can fix this rather easily with dependencies
[23:32] <sarnold> rostam: check logs? maybe sort /etc/init.d/ and /etc/init/ by most recently changed and start looking at whatever changed most recently?
[23:40] <rostam> sarnold, thanks will do that, By the way we were planning to move to 16.04 today and this happended :)