[00:24] <lynorian> yeah I saw that and was getting frustrated and we still have desktop images after that last respin
[01:53] <lynorian> wxl see the ping in release
[13:20] <flexiondotorg> tsimonq2, Do you have LXQt images yet?
[13:21] <tsimonq2> flexiondotorg: still a WIP
[13:21] <flexiondotorg> :-(
[13:21] <tsimonq2> flexiondotorg: waiting on something to be solved upstream
[13:21] <tsimonq2> Final Beta! :P
[13:21] <flexiondotorg> :-D
[13:21] <flexiondotorg> I've got a computer set aside for it :-)
[13:22] <tsimonq2> :D
[14:24] <sudodus> o/
[14:24] <tsimonq2> o/ sudodus
[14:26] <tsimonq2> sudodus: please join #ubuntu-release
[14:52] <tsimonq2> sudodus: so you see what you just did? :D
[14:53] <tsimonq2> sudodus: seeing bugs through and tricking people into fixing them is fun! :P
[14:53]  * tsimonq2 is kidding on the tricking part
[15:30] <sudodus> :-)
[15:31] <tsimonq2> sudodus: one more thing, if you're up for it :)
[15:31] <tsimonq2> sudodus: Kubuntu has NO tests completed
[15:31] <tsimonq2> sudodus: while you're waiting for alternate, if you want, can you knock those out? :)
[15:32] <sudodus> It seemed to me that infinity and pitty know what they are doing. By the way, I tested the mini.iso that was uploaded today. It works in my computer too.
[15:32] <tsimonq2> oh cool :)
[15:32] <tsimonq2> sudodus: yeah, infinity is the head of the Ubuntu Release Team
[15:32] <sudodus> Well, I would like to, but I have a hungry son ... When is the deadline?
[15:33] <tsimonq2> sudodus: (he's Adam Conrad, you might see him on Ubuntu Release announcements)
[15:33] <tsimonq2> well if you only have limited time, then save your time for alternate ;)
[15:33] <sudodus> OK
[15:33] <tsimonq2> deadline is today
[15:33] <tsimonq2> all needs to be done today
[15:34] <sudodus> what time, later tonight CET I might have an hour or two
[15:35] <tsimonq2> ok cool :)
[15:35] <tsimonq2> um
[15:35] <tsimonq2> idk
[15:35] <tsimonq2> sudodus: what time is it by you now?
[15:39] <sudodus> 17:38, CET is UTC +2 (+1 standard +1 daylight saving)
[15:40] <tsimonq2> when's the earliest you can be around?
[15:41] <sudodus> Maybe 1 1/2 or 2 hours from now, I think.
[15:41] <tsimonq2> that works fine, can you be on then? :)
[15:42] <sudodus> Maybe I can spend 2 more hours today for testing.
[15:43] <tsimonq2> ok :)
[16:46] <tsimonq2> wxl: ping
[16:58] <wxl> tsimonq2: what's up?
[16:58] <tsimonq2> wxl: read #ubuntu-release notes
[16:58] <tsimonq2> s/notes/logs/
[16:59] <wxl> can you summarize for me so i don't have to dig?
[16:59] <tsimonq2> wxl: Lubuntu Alt is broken
[16:59] <wxl> tsimonq2: and not going to get fixed for beta 1. siiiigh.
[16:59] <tsimonq2> they're doing a respin soon
[16:59] <wxl> tsimonq2: oh good!
[17:00] <tsimonq2> yes it is!
[17:00] <wxl> phew
[17:00] <wxl> wearing my lubuntu lennicorn shirt today
[17:00] <wxl> in honor of linux's birthday
[17:00] <tsimonq2> your turn to be release manager for once *tag* :P
[17:00] <wxl> hahahah
[17:00] <tsimonq2> oh that's right!
[17:01] <tsimonq2> cool!
[17:01] <wxl> alright
[17:01] <tsimonq2> but on that note, you should really read the #ubuntu-release notes
[17:01] <tsimonq2> and again
[17:02] <wxl> tsimonq2: do you want to email lubuntu-devel about the impending respin/
[17:02] <tsimonq2> s/notes/logs/
[17:02] <tsimonq2> in like 10 mins
[17:02] <wxl> great thx
[17:03] <tsimonq2> wxl: btw you should read the #ubuntu-release notes
[17:03] <tsimonq2> s/notes/logs/
[17:03] <tsimonq2> XD
[17:08] <lynorian> oh wow wxl how long do alts take to build
[17:09] <tsimonq2> a bit of time :)
[17:15] <wxl> tsimonq2: where are we at with release notes?
[17:17] <tsimonq2> progress
[17:18] <wxl> more to do then?
[17:19] <tsimonq2> correct
[17:19] <wxl> great thx
[17:20] <wxl> make sure to include the birthday thing :)
[17:21] <tsimonq2> k man
[17:21] <wxl> thx for all your help. it's been super nuts at work
[17:23] <tsimonq2> no problem, happy to help :)
[17:24] <tsimonq2> wxl: btw my lunch is from 12:15 to like 1:05
[17:24] <tsimonq2> so I'm set! it's fine! :D
[17:24] <wxl> cool
[17:27] <tsimonq2> wxl: so desktop is marked as ready
[17:27] <tsimonq2> not alternate though
[17:28] <wxl> tsimonq2: saw that. my only hope is that netcfg doesn't mess with it. might want to spot test it.
[17:28] <tsimonq2> you talking about alt or desktop?
[17:28] <wxl> desktop
[17:28] <wxl> i'd suspect it uses netcfg as well
[17:29] <wxl> it doesn't need a full test
[17:29] <wxl> just a quick spot check
[17:29] <wxl> like boot&install it and make sure there's network. done.
[17:29] <tsimonq2> well desktop is frozen solid isn't it?
[17:29] <tsimonq2> alright
[17:29] <wxl> not necessarily no
[17:30] <lynorian> wxl last respin of desktop had network
[17:30] <tsimonq2> hmm k I'll do that
[17:30] <wxl> lynorian: i know but there's more changes coming down the pike
[17:30] <wxl> probably won't affect it
[17:30] <wxl> but might
[17:30] <lynorian> for desktop?
[17:30] <wxl> slim chance
[17:30] <wxl> yes
[17:30] <wxl> because one of the fixes is to netcfg which is more fundamental to all images
[17:31] <tsimonq2> lynorian: need you to help test alt when ready if possible
[17:31] <wxl> man i might need to throw down too
[17:31] <tsimonq2> hm?
[17:31] <lynorian> of course
[17:32] <wxl> help out with testing
[17:32] <wxl> i have a lunch date in an hour
[17:32] <wxl> timing might not work out :(
[17:32] <tsimonq2> oh ok
[17:32] <tsimonq2> yeah that might be a problem
[17:32] <wxl> tsimonq2: not to be a pain, but don't forget an email to the list
[17:33] <tsimonq2> k
[17:33] <wxl> did i ever send you two lennicorn shirts by the way? i know i've talked about this. i probably forgot. what sizes do you guys wear? email me a reminder with your address/phone number?
[17:33] <wxl> i gotta get nio one.
[17:34] <sudodus> o/ medium size - for me :-)
[17:35] <wxl> yay :)
[17:35] <wxl> sudodus: send me an email with address/phone and a reminder of the size
[17:36] <lynorian> me?
[17:36] <wxl> lynorian: all of you! :)
[17:36] <wxl> it's an old shirt but it's still a good one
[17:37] <wxl> light blue
[17:37] <wxl> lennicorn on the front
[17:37] <wxl> lubuntu qa team on the right sleeve
[17:37] <wxl> and a quote from a local rapper on the back
[17:37] <tsimonq2> large for me
[17:37] <wxl> "a unicorn's uniform is usually untestable"
[17:37] <wxl> tsimonq2: EMAIL
[17:37] <wxl> ok so i'm logged into all the places
[17:37] <wxl> so i'm ready to go
[17:37] <tsimonq2> wxl: btw read the #ubuntu-release notes
[17:38] <tsimonq2> XD
[17:38]  * wxl glowers at tsimonq2 
[17:39] <tsimonq2> wxl: SENT
[17:40] <tsimonq2> hehehehehe ;)
[17:40] <wxl> lynorian: don't forget your address
[17:41] <tsimonq2> wxl: SENT
[17:41]  * tsimonq2 runs
[17:42] <wxl> so as soon as we get respins, let's check versions
[17:42] <wxl> in the manifest
[17:43] <wxl> netcfg should be 1.138ubuntu2
[17:43] <wxl> and  20101020ubuntu472 for d-i
[17:45] <tsimonq2> ok
[18:33] <wxl> well, it's moved out of proposed at least
[19:56] <tsimonq2> !info netcfg yakkety
[19:56] <tsimonq2> !info netcfg yakkety-proposed
[19:56] <tsimonq2> hm :/
[20:12] <tsimonq2> wxl: ping
[20:12] <tsimonq2> wxl: he's publishing now and still no respun alternate :(
[20:12] <wxl> tsimonq2: pong
[20:13] <tsimonq2> wxl: if we want alternate, as soon as it's ready, we need to test FAST
[20:13] <tsimonq2> if it's any use at all :(
[20:13] <wxl> tsimonq2: well crap
[20:13] <wxl> it is a beta, i guess that's ok
[20:14] <tsimonq2> we don't have any critical bugs, why would we not release Beta 1 Alt?
[20:14] <tsimonq2> we have no reason not to except that we didn't meet the deadline :/
[20:14] <wxl> yeah so that's that
[20:14] <lynorian> well the fix wasn't in before the deadline
[20:14] <tsimonq2> yes it was
[20:14] <wxl> with us questioning whether or not we need alternate, i guess it's no big deal
[20:15] <lynorian> well not with time to rebuild
[20:15] <lynorian> or was it?
[20:15] <wxl> wait
[20:15] <wxl> do you need me to respin????
[20:15] <wxl> is that the issue?
[20:15] <lynorian> we are now but they are releasing like now
[20:20] <wxl> EVERYONE GET TESTING
[20:20] <wxl> lynorian tsimonq2 sudodus !!!!
[20:20] <tsimonq2> GO GO GO!!!!!!!!
[20:20] <wxl> i can help with i386
[20:20] <tsimonq2> alright claim it so we don't duplicate
[20:21] <tsimonq2> I'll tackle amd64
[20:22] <wxl> k downloading
[20:22] <tsimonq2> me too
[20:22] <tsimonq2> zsync to the rescue!
[20:22] <wxl> unfortunately the latest i have laying around is an older xenial so i may have to do a bit more of an update
[20:22] <lynorian> downloading
[20:22] <lynorian> oops
[20:23] <tsimonq2> lynorian: which one you grabbing?
[20:23] <lynorian> I started amd 64
[20:23] <tsimonq2> ok I'll delete my in progress result on the one you want
[20:23] <tsimonq2> lynorian: pick one
[20:24] <tsimonq2> ALRIGHT!
[20:24] <tsimonq2> I have the images!
[20:24] <lynorian> well I can do auto resize
[20:24] <tsimonq2> (singular)
[20:24] <tsimonq2> alright cool!
[20:24] <lynorian> yay having previous vms around
[20:24] <wxl> i'll send an email real quick while i wait on this
[20:25] <wxl> ooh i'll check the manifest first
[20:25] <tsimonq2> thanks wxl
[20:27] <wxl> /pool/main/n/netcfg/netcfg_1.138ubuntu2_i386.udeb
[20:27] <wxl> /pool/main/n/netcfg/netcfg_1.138ubuntu2_amd64.udeb
[20:28] <lynorian> ok to the installing the base system
[20:28] <tsimonq2> weeeee three going at once
[20:29] <wxl> i can't find d-i in the list
[20:29] <wxl> just libraries and utilities related to it
[20:30] <wxl> since the source package was mnodified because of the netcfg fix, i'm going to just assume we're ok
[20:30] <wxl> i'm still downloading :(
[20:30] <tsimonq2> yeah
[20:30] <tsimonq2> wxl: well I had a base iso so \o/
[20:30] <tsimonq2> I'm already halfway on Installing base system on all three
[20:31] <lynorian> I have both downloaded
[20:31] <tsimonq2> niiiice
[20:31]  * tsimonq2 gets a quick drink
[20:32]  * lynorian can't do powerpc
[20:32] <wxl> don't worry about ppc
[20:32] <wxl> only lts, remember
[20:33] <tsimonq2> yep
[20:35] <lynorian> beware the http proxy tab
[20:35] <tsimonq2> ?
[20:35] <wxl> k email sent
[20:35] <tsimonq2> oh that's right lynorian
[20:35] <tsimonq2> wxl: \o/
[20:36] <wxl> http proxy tab?
[20:36] <wxl> darn it this download is taking forever >:(
[20:36] <lynorian> in alternate if you walk away after installing base system
[20:36] <tsimonq2> wxl: in alt it stops you halfway asking if you want a proxy
[20:36] <wxl> ohhh right
[20:36] <lynorian> it will just stay there
[20:44] <lynorian> hmm halfway through base system on the one less far along
[20:47] <sudodus> o/ downloaded, flashing now ...
[20:48] <wxl> thx sudodus
[20:48] <tsimonq2> sudodus: whatcha workin on? :)
[20:48] <tsimonq2> and thanks sudodus
[20:48] <tsimonq2> :)
[20:48] <sudodus> I'll start with the i386 iso file
[20:48] <wxl> good
[20:48] <wxl> i'll help out with that once mine downloads >:(
[20:48] <tsimonq2> flexiondotorg: join us here for coordination! \o/
[20:50] <lynorian> I almost have both guided testcases done
[20:50] <tsimonq2> REMEMBER EVERYONE! ONCE YOU SMOKE TEST IMAGES, CONFIRM THE BUGS BELOW THE SUBMISSION FORM ON THE ISO QA TRACKER!
[20:51] <wxl> tsimonq2: are we just smoke testing? every other aspect of the test has passed?
[20:51] <tsimonq2> wxl: what do you mean?
[20:52] <wxl> tsimonq2: i imagine the lack of networking might make some aspects of the testcases untestable
[20:52] <tsimonq2> wxl: I'm not having problems with that, are you? :)
[20:53] <wxl> i'm saying that when we did have it, we had that problem
[20:53] <wxl> which is to say running through the full test suite might be more appropriate than "smoke testing"
[20:53] <tsimonq2> oh that's what I kind of meant
[20:55] <lynorian> ok 2 guided at same time and have last one at 31 percent
[20:56] <tsimonq2> I'm around 35% on my three on Selecting and Installing Software
[20:58] <tsimonq2> wxl: how are your images coming?
[20:58] <flocculant> evening - where abouts does the No network interfaces were found appear during install?
[20:58] <tsimonq2> sudodus: ^
[20:58] <flocculant> before installing base system or after?
[20:58]  * flexiondotorg is here
[20:58] <flocculant> hey sudodus - long time no speak :)
[20:59] <flexiondotorg> alternates appear to have networking
[20:59] <flexiondotorg> That was the main concern right?
[20:59] <tsimonq2> I think so :)
[21:00] <flocculant> well I assume all is well - it's grabbed packages with apt and is configuring now
[21:00] <sudodus> hej flocculant :-)
[21:00] <tsimonq2> flexiondotorg, flocculant: the discussion was this morning my time on #ubuntu-release
[21:00] <flocculant> grabbed 960 of 960
[21:01] <flexiondotorg> Yep, I agree with flocculant. Looking good here.
[21:01]  * flocculant is glad he's not doing this 10 years ago ...
[21:02]  * flexiondotorg is glad he's doing this on a full spec Entroware Athena ...
[21:02] <tsimonq2> :O :D
[21:02] <sudodus> Very early in the installer, but that is fixed now. Now we want to know, that the installed system gets a working wired internet 'out of the box'
[21:03] <flocculant> k
[21:03] <flexiondotorg> Booting now...
[21:04] <flexiondotorg> Have network
[21:04] <tsimonq2> one thing I found while doing this in a VM earlier, when you are in LightDM, on the top right corner, is that text not that visible?
[21:04] <sudodus> Yes, I have a network in the installed system too, installed by the 32-bit alternate iso
[21:05] <flocculant> can't imagine mine not having it then
[21:06] <flexiondotorg> tsimonq2, That is a GTK3+ theming issue.
[21:06] <sudodus> I can ping ubuntu.com, so it is there, but for some reason, the lines about it in nm-applet is greyed out. But I would say it is no longer a red bug
[21:06] <flexiondotorg> sudodus, Yes.
[21:06] <tsimonq2> flexiondotorg: I'll bug Rafael :)
[21:07] <flexiondotorg> Says "device not managed".
[21:07] <lynorian> opening firefox works but it says device not managed
[21:07] <flocculant> flexiondotorg: few of those about - the moving skip button in ubiquity particularly annoys me
[21:07] <tsimonq2> yeah device not managed
[21:07] <flexiondotorg> And "No valid connections found" when requesting Connection Information.
[21:07] <flexiondotorg> But, the network does at least work.
[21:07] <flexiondotorg> So, probably release note that.
[21:08] <tsimonq2> wxl, lynorian: how are things coming? :)
[21:08] <flocculant> what I'd do
[21:08] <lynorian> one is done need to log in the tracker
[21:08] <lynorian> other at 60% select and install
[21:09] <flocculant> someone needs to report the new bug
[21:09] <wxl> oh mine finally downloaded
[21:09] <wxl> ok
[21:09] <sudodus> After two attempt, the wifi is connected too - this should go into the release notes.
[21:09] <lynorian> agianst what?
[21:10] <tsimonq2> If anyone wants to add anything to the release notes, here you go: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YakketyYak/Beta1/Lubuntu
[21:10] <tsimonq2> otherwise I'll read backlog and do it myself when I publish
[21:10] <wxl> and booting
[21:10] <sudodus> firefox works for me.
[21:10] <flocculant> lynorian: not sure - nm-applet perhaps - doesn't really matter much right now - can be sorted out later - but people need a bug to put on the tracker
[21:11] <flocculant> not my bag - I'm just using a bit of time to smoketest for you :)
[21:11] <wxl> doing unencrypted home
[21:13] <sudodus> I tested 'encryption' alias 'encrypted disk' and 'encrypted home' earlier today. I don't think it is affected by these late bugfixes
[21:14]  * lynorian is writing a bug report
[21:16] <flocculant> k - done - device unmanaged - connects to web pages ok
[21:16]  * flocculant waits on bug number
[21:17] <lynorian> bug 1617063
[21:19] <flocculant> wxl ok so all mandatory testcases covered now :)
[21:19] <wxl> great thanks flocculant !
[21:19] <flocculant> anything else?
[21:20] <wxl> flocculant: i'm wondering if we shouldn't spot check desktop to make sure it doesn't have any issues with networking
[21:20] <flocculant> didn't mean by me - by 'people' :D
[21:20] <lynorian> well hasn't desktop not been respun
[21:20] <wxl> upon further reflection i'm not going to worry about it
[21:20] <lynorian> I checked it last time and it did not have issues
[21:20] <flocculant> that :)
[21:22] <flocculant> ok - well I'll wander off now - cya sudodus :D
[21:22] <tsimonq2> o/
[21:22] <tsimonq2> my VMs are still going...
[21:22] <wxl> thx flocculant !!!
[21:26] <sudodus> I've double-checked Alternate Install (Guided) in Lubuntu Alternate i386 in Yakkety, and it works for me too.
[21:26] <wxl> excellent
[21:27] <tsimonq2> wxl: waiting for everything to be done or trusting it?
[21:27] <wxl> tsimonq2: let's get the mandatory one you're working on and then call it good
[21:28] <tsimonq2> k
[21:28] <sudodus> Sounds like a good idea
[21:29] <sudodus> good night
[21:30] <tsimonq2> o/ sudodus
[21:30] <wxl> sudodus: thanks so much!!!
[21:31] <tsimonq2> wxl: EY B0SS ALL DONE
[21:31] <tsimonq2> I'm still working on optional
[21:31] <tsimonq2> but
[21:31] <tsimonq2> wxl: GO GO GO GO GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[21:34] <wxl> we did that in an hour
[21:34] <wxl> great work everyone
[21:36] <tsimonq2> YEAH! :D
[21:36]  * tsimonq2 gives high fives all around
[21:36]  * tsimonq2 runs around like a mad man
[21:36] <wxl> hopefully laney didn't leave XD
[21:37] <tsimonq2> that would suuuuuuuuuuck
[21:37] <tsimonq2> wxl: NO images are published, he couldn't have yet...
[21:37] <wxl> well, he COULD have
[21:37] <wxl> he SHOULDN'T have :)
[22:46] <tsimonq2> wxl: releasing Lubuntu
[22:46] <wxl> yay!
[22:55] <tsimonq2> alright all released
[22:55] <tsimonq2> wxl: I have to go, could you update #lubuntu-devel's topic pls?
[22:55] <tsimonq2> o/
[22:55] <wxl> already on it
[22:55] <wxl> bai tsimonq2 and thanks
[23:09] <Kamilion> papercuts, eh?
[23:10] <Kamilion> rrgh, still no lxqt.
[23:10] <wxl> yeah we're gfetting there
[23:10] <wxl> almost have the image ready
[23:10] <wxl> waiting for some upstream changes
[23:10] <wxl> don't mind me btw
[23:10] <wxl> !eol
[23:10] <Kamilion> please tell me it doesn't encounter the same desktop bug
[23:10] <wxl> which desktop bug?
[23:10] <Kamilion> the stupid root window not resizing when the desktop does
[23:11] <wxl> would you mind dropping a line to the lubuntu-devel list? i know others have a lxqt more handy than i do right now
[23:11] <Kamilion> huh?
[23:11] <wxl> email lubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com
[23:11] <wxl> i'm not sure it does
[23:11] <wxl> don't have lxqt in front of me
[23:11] <Kamilion> oh. nah, nevermind
[23:11] <wxl> someone there will
[23:11] <wxl> ooooooo k
[23:11] <Kamilion> I don't give a fuck enough to post on forums or send email
[23:12] <wxl> this being an official ubuntu channel i'll warn you about language
[23:12] <Kamilion> someone else'll run into it
[23:12] <Kamilion> what?
[23:12] <wxl> or they won't XD
[23:12] <Kamilion> oh, no, they WILL.
[23:12] <Kamilion> it happens on vmware and vbox as soon as the desktop resizes
[23:13] <Kamilion> that's why it's so damned annoying.
[23:13] <wxl> well i don't think i've heard this form anyone else is the thing
[23:13] <Kamilion> uh, why are you giving me a hassle like this is suddenly ubuntu controlles, lol
[23:13] <Kamilion> did the board tell you guys to give up the lubuntu name or something?
[23:13] <wxl> i'm just mentioning it because ubuntu is watching.........
[23:14]  * Kamilion doublechecks he's in #lubuntu-devel and not #lubuntu
[23:14] <wxl> lubuntu-devel is also an official channel
[23:14] <Kamilion> *sigh*
[23:14] <Kamilion> whatever then
[23:15]  * Kamilion detaches for another six months
[23:15]  * wxl facepalms