[01:16] <eipi10> anyone here use ub-mate on pi?
[01:17] <dragic> ni
[01:25] <nomic> yeah
[01:25] <nomic> eipi10
[01:45] <eipi10> hi nomic, thx.  umm, I was wondering why the default repositories don't include Canonical-supported or community maintained or the others like in an x86 version on Mate.
[01:46] <eipi10> of^ Ubuntu-Mate
[02:17] <nomic> STICK round .
[02:17] <nomic> pls
[02:17] <nomic> cannot stand to attention on channel
[02:17] <nomic> waiting for response
[02:17] <nomic> irc is SLOW
[07:29] <RobLoach> ?
[07:53] <alkisg> !
[08:00] <Amis> .
[08:01] <ouroumov__> ;
[08:37] <aryell> hi mates
[11:13] <rajat> hello everyone
[11:13] <rajat> this is my first time on any irc channel
[11:14] <rajat> as a matter of fact i don't even know what that means
[11:15] <rajat> hello
[11:15] <rajat> is anyone there
[13:49] <mate|31333> how to install teletalk 3g modem on ubuntu 16.04
[14:33] <drp> hi there, just installed ubuntu mate on the rpi3, very happy so far! much quicker than expected plus vlc with omx out the box is quite nice
[14:34] <drp> raspbian is kept on feeling like the front fell off
[14:35] <drp> raspbian is nice*
[16:02] <logical> hi ppl, is it possible to install calendar from gnome 3 (like fedora) on ubuntu-mate?
[16:03] <Akuli> of course
[16:03] <Akuli> i have gnome 3's terminal
[16:09] <drp> logical, you can do anything with enough packages and dreams apt install gnome-calendar appears to be the package
[16:12] <logical> well thank you drp: i am noobie here :)
[16:25] <partyline> hi there my saund stop working
[16:28] <drp> brutal
[16:29] <drp> open a command and run alsamixer
[16:43] <drp> or not
[16:49] <aryell> anyone having problems with the weather applet on mate desktop 16.04
[16:49] <aryell> ?
[16:49] <aryell> it does not seem to update
[16:57] <drp> did you set your location?
[16:58] <drp> aryell did you set your location? and did you manually try and reload it?
[16:58] <aryell> I did
[16:58] <johnc4510> i've had the same problem for a few days now...
[16:58] <aryell> tried severel in fact
[16:58] <aryell> btw
[16:58] <johnc4510> on my desktop and laptop
[16:59] <johnc4510> not a biggy to me but...
[16:59] <drp> I am also getting the same error
[16:59] <drp> or rather "update failed"
[16:59] <drp> odd that the forecast appears to be there though
[16:59] <aryell> It seems it was in the middle of some updates right when i was setting it up, i'll add it now to see if anything changed
[16:59] <drp> if you go into details then click forecast does it show up?
[17:01] <aryell> it first says 0farenheit witch is nonsense when when i choose the location any location it does not matter, it just shows the city name, and in the panel 2 dashes
[17:01] <drp> looks like we all have the problem
[17:02] <aryell> yeah no luck even with the updates does do no good, maybe it;s a new bug
[17:03] <aryell> maybe i should report it somewhere
[17:03] <johnc4510> i also noticed that the weather attached to the clock/calendar isn't updating either
[17:03] <ouroumov_> See https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/weather-applets-inop/8435/1
[17:04] <johnc4510> looking
[17:04] <aryell> I cant really tell it;s light outside, but it;s kind of in the middle (calendar shadow over map) will wait until later to see if it changes
[17:13] <drp> >url is hardcoded in
[17:13] <drp> oh me oh my
[17:13] <drp> that could probably do with a config file
[17:14] <aryell> i;ve done the upgrade like the forum said
[17:14] <aryell> let's see after a reboot or log out
[17:17] <johnc4510> wb
[17:19] <aryell> still nothing
[17:19] <johnc4510> ah
[17:19] <ubuntu-mate> hi
[17:19] <ubuntu-mate> is anyone here?
[17:19] <aryell> hi
[17:19] <ubuntu-mate> sup aryell?
[17:20] <aryell> having issues with the weather applet in mate desktop, but from out I gather this is a widespread problem
[17:21] <ubuntu-mate> im trying ubuntu mate. do you wanna show me some cool staff?
[17:21] <aryell> apparently the service is shut down, and even after a last minute update it still does not work
[17:21] <johnc4510> thx...let us know how 1.14 is please
[17:22] <ubuntu-mate> haha i cant help. i know nothing in this shit
[17:23] <drp> you got yourself a very authoritative name for someone who claims to know nothing
[17:23] <ubuntu-mate> why i can see the all sentence
[17:24] <drp> or is that the default name that clicking on the welcome button gives you?
[17:24] <ubuntu-mate> :|
[17:24] <ubuntu-mate> default
[17:25] <aryell> drp: i did the update and it still the same, on the forum it's kind of 50/50 on who has it working and who does not
[17:25] <drp> aryell the issue tracker states that apparently the new url doesn't work for some areas
[17:26] <drp> ubuntu-mate: if you want some fun you can install openttd and become a transport tycoon
[17:26] <rahtgaz> that applet has always been a mess
[17:26] <ubuntu-mate> why i can see the all sentence??
[17:28] <drp> that was so close to being a cogent thought
[17:28] <drp> do you think he was having trouble with how IRC works?
[17:29] <rahtgaz> nope. just on what an official channel means
[17:29] <rahtgaz> it's not a playground
[17:29] <aryell> drp:: I;m in Eastern Europe so i guess I;m the unlucky winner in this situation
[17:31] <drp> aryell I am Australian so I can share in your unluckiness
[17:31] <drp> except that it's really nice weather here and I never have to check the weather ever
[17:31] <aryell> aren't other weather services or servers out there that the applet can connect to ?
[17:32] <drp> the url is hardcoded in
[17:32] <drp> so yes
[17:32] <drp> if you recompile the applet with a new url that you injected
[17:32] <aryell> in my country is temperate so it kind of fluctuates
[17:32] <drp> plus some parsing changes
[17:33] <aryell> recompiling stuff and changing code is not my strong suit although I would like to know how to do this kind of stuff
[17:33] <rahtgaz> there's another applet. let me see if i find it
[17:34] <rahtgaz> darn...
[17:34] <aryell> it's not compatible ?
[17:34] <rahtgaz> there is this thread on the forums if you search for weather applet. someone recomends it
[17:34] <rahtgaz> no. it is. I just can't recall its name
[17:35] <rahtgaz> it's actually a very good and complete applet and you can choose from several services. The Wunderbar weather service gives you a free REST key, so you may want to choose that
[17:36] <drp> just use a weather stone
[17:36] <drp> https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3544/3442057248_dbaf4823a0_b.jpg
[17:37] <rahtgaz> ahah!
[17:38] <aryell> that's clever
[17:38] <johnc4510> hee hee
[17:40] <Akuli> lol thats awesome
[17:52] <andrasxa> sziasztok!
[17:52] <alkisg> Καλησπέρα!
[17:53] <andrasxa> you no hungary??
[17:53] <ouroumov_> !hu | andrasxa
[17:53] <alkisg> No I'm not hungry
[17:53] <alkisg> I'm Greek :)
[17:53] <ouroumov_> Maybe not the correct language lol
[17:53] <andrasxa> I hungary!! :(
[17:54] <ouroumov_> !
[17:54] <ouroumov_> We're not :)
[17:55] <company_> hi there ubuntu lovers. I have a question. Im new in this world of linux and ubuntu. Ok, my question is if anybody kwnows some software to install in ubuntu mate 14.6 on a raspberry pi 2
[17:55] <andrasxa> I left the "?"
[17:56] <company_> the software I need is a softphone
[17:56] <alkisg> Which one?
[17:57] <company_> I tried with Ring softphone but I dont knoe why doesnt work...
[17:57] <andrasxa> ?
[17:58] <alkisg> I did a quick search some hours ago and yeah ring seemed like the best available... but I haven't used it yet...
[17:58] <alkisg> Do you see any error messages?
[17:58] <company_> kind of...
[17:59] <company_> it seems the prcessor doesnt recognize that software
[17:59] <alkisg> How did you install it, from software-center, with apt or by downloading it?
[18:00] <company_> I downloaded it on the raspberry pi 2 from the Ring web page
[18:01] <company_> I've followed the instruction step by step
[18:03] <alkisg> Ah yeah it's not available for 16.04 but only for 16.10 from the repositories... http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=ring
[18:06] <company_> do I have to download those repositories?
[18:07] <company_> I'm recently discovering this ubuntu mate world :)
[18:07] <alkisg> You can try waiting here to see if someone that has used ring reply,
[18:07] <alkisg> or you can try using the ring community, whatever support method they have
[18:07] <alkisg> If anything else fails, then yes you can also try the packages from 16.10
[18:07] <company_> yeah, I hope.
[18:10] <company_> I read on instructables.com they can made a softphone on a raspberry pi by using SFLPHONE ''now named RING''
[18:12] <alkisg> company_: ah, sflphone is available in 16.04, you can try uninstalling ring and installing that one instead
[18:12] <alkisg> Err no sorry that's only available up to 15.10, hehe
[18:15] <company_> but sflphone I didn't found it... unless I typed by error some keys...
[18:16] <alkisg> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=sflphone ==> only available up to 15.10
[18:17] <company_> aalkisg, can you give me some help how to uninstall ring? I'm messing around on this S.O. lololol
[18:17] <alkisg> First of all I don't see any armhf packages in there: https://dl.ring.cx/ring-manual/ubuntu_16.04/
[18:17] <alkisg> ...so I don't know how you managed to install it in the first place
[18:17] <alkisg> There are only amd64 and i386 packages there
[18:17] <alkisg> So I would try the packages from 16.10...
[18:19] <company_> yeah I saw some words that the software does not see the armhf, is that the processor?
[18:23] <alkisg> yes
[18:23] <company_> wait a minute please...
[18:42] <alkisg> company_: here are some ring packages for armhf: http://ports.ubuntu.com/pool/universe/r/ring/
[18:43] <alkisg> This one first: http://ports.ubuntu.com/pool/universe/r/ring/ring-daemon_20160804.3.dfb2548~dfsg1-1_armhf.deb
[18:43] <alkisg> This one second: http://ports.ubuntu.com/pool/universe/r/ring/ring_20160804.3.dfb2548~dfsg1-1_armhf.deb
[18:44] <alkisg> If that doesn't work, search for some other softphone
[18:47] <drp> speaking of arm
[18:48] <drp> is OpenGL support planned for the raspi come 6.10? or is that in the too hard basket?
[18:51]  * alkisg gave up on raspberry pi, it's cpu is extremely slow... and I'm only using it for vnc to a real desktop currently :)
[18:59] <drp> fair enough, the rpi3 is working pretty well for me
[18:59] <drp> especially with the YT2Player extension for firefox
[19:00] <drp> means I can send youtube to vlc which processes with the OMX codecs
[19:00] <drp> so far I have a usable desktop for light work
[19:02] <alkisg> http://www.gearbest.com/tv-box-mini-pc/pp_367432.html ==> 65 euros all included, cheaper than rpi3 and 10 times faster and amd64
[19:02] <alkisg> No need for special packages and plugins etc etc
[19:03] <drp> also I got the fastest sd card I could shove in the thing so it loads quickly
[19:03] <drp> but that's no fun
[19:03] <drp> also
[19:03] <drp> rpi3 is 35 buckaroos
[19:03] <alkisg> Add the sd, the hdmi cable, the case etc
[19:03] <drp> is the EU really butt fucking you that bad?
[19:03] <alkisg> ?
[19:04] <alkisg> I've no idea what you mean
[19:04] <drp> 65 euros > 35 dollars
[19:04] <alkisg> I meant that you didn't add the extra stuff that pi needs
[19:04] <alkisg> Add the cost of the sd card, of the hdmi cable, the case etc
[19:05] <alkisg> And you'll see that it's more expensive than what I linked
[19:05] <bekks> 4$ sd, 8$ case, 5$ cable.
[19:05] <alkisg> Click on the link
[19:05] <bekks> Still less than 65$.
[19:05] <alkisg> See what you're missing
[19:05] <drp> more like 1$ cable
[19:05] <bekks> I wont miss anything, since that link contains an AMD.
[19:05] <alkisg> It's intel, not amd
[19:05] <alkisg> 32GB eMMC ROM doesn't cost 4$
[19:06] <alkisg> 2 GB RAM doesn't cost 0$
[19:06] <drp> that is pretty cool
[19:06] <alkisg> You don't have USB3 nor real ethernet
[19:06] <alkisg> You don't have 4k display support
[19:07] <alkisg> Heck you don't even have a power adapter by default, while this one does
[19:07] <drp> looks like that thing is based off intels SoC stuff that they're doing now
[19:07] <drp> seems similar to http://www.lattepanda.com/
[19:07] <alkisg> The chinese have a whole lot of these, many under $70
[19:07] <alkisg> And some under $30
[19:10] <alkisg> Here's one with 20€, everything included (with android though, arm-based): http://www.gearbest.com/tv-box-mini-pc/pp_401685.html
[19:11] <alkisg> I still prefer the intel based one
[19:11] <drp> man I would not touch anything other than Raspberry or icube when it comes to arm
[19:11] <drp> the intel ones would be the way to go
[19:11] <alkisg> arm with android is fine in a lot of cases, they do have gpu drivers and everything
[19:12] <alkisg> with linux it's another story... even rpi isn't upstream'ed enough
[19:12] <drp> yes but it's non-free as fuark and often has super locked down anything
[19:12] <alkisg> x86 ftw :)
[19:12] <drp> x86 is in many ways worse
[19:12] <alkisg> rpi is non-free as well, it boots from a binary blob
[19:12] <drp> yep
[19:12] <alkisg> While x86 bios has been documented since 1981
[19:13] <drp> if you could mix rpi and beaglebone then you'd have the freest thing around
[19:13] <drp> broadcom open sourced the gpu of the rpi
[19:13] <alkisg> Well... they're at least trying a bit
[19:13] <alkisg> The blob is still closed source
[19:14] <drp> hey it's broadcom, anything more than urinating acid on their customers is welcomed
[19:14] <alkisg> Haha
[19:14] <bekks> I havent seen an opensource bios yet.
[19:14] <alkisg> libreboot supports many boards
[19:14] <alkisg> Because of the open specs
[19:14] <drp> libreboot supports 3 thinkpads and 2 macbooks
[19:14] <alkisg> The code doesn't need to be open source, the specs do need to be
[19:14] <alkisg> That's an issue with the floss community, not with the specs
[19:15] <alkisg> Hardware manufactures don't have to develop with open source, but they do need open specs
[19:15] <drp> I will argue that some specs are bad
[19:15] <drp> Microsofts open format is horrifying and you'd have a hard time conforming to it
[19:16] <drp> but yeah libreboot
[19:16] <drp> the most open thing that exists currently is probably the Talos Workstation
[19:16] <alkisg> That's because they developed it as closed source for ms office, and build upon all its versions, and then decided to publish the result... it was not designed to be an open spec from the start
[19:16] <drp> POWER8 with completely open firmware
[19:17] <drp> wasn't it forced by the EU to publish the result?
[19:20] <alkisg> Yup, more or less..
[20:33] <rangergord> can I replace that nice progress bar with the 5 circles with the usual scrolling text of loaded services?
[22:40] <flexiondotorg> https://ubuntu-mate.org/blog/ubuntu-mate-yakkety-beta1/
[23:25] <tiox> Who's had luck making DockbarX work in mate-panel?