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whoami_		00:07
DilloDroid	so why is simple file sharing so difficult in Ubuntu?	00:26
DilloDroid	Mac does it out of the box	00:26
BasketCase	Anyone running Xenial with an NFS root yet? Care to share your kernel command line?	00:26
DilloDroid	yeah, that ^^ lol	00:27
BasketCase	not sure what you were discussing before I popped in but booting from an NFS mount is a bit beyond file sharing	00:28
DilloDroid	sorry, people have suggested NFS when I talked about file sharing	00:29
BasketCase	it can be used for that of course. in fact it would have to be able to do that before you can try booting from it ;)	00:30
BasketCase	I don't even know what OSX uses	00:30
DilloDroid	no idea myself, but my Linux boxes can see my Mac shares just fine, but not each other	00:31
DilloDroid	and the Macs can't see the Linux boxes	00:31
DilloDroid	frustrating	00:31
BasketCase	if you mount one what does the mount command say about it?	00:31
DilloDroid	The Macs just show up as shares in Nautilus	00:32
DilloDroid	click on them and log in	00:32
DilloDroid	np	00:32
BasketCase	does it show what protocol is involved or translate to a local path?	00:32
DilloDroid	no low-level stuff at all	00:33
DilloDroid	just GUI in Nautilus	00:33
DilloDroid	(in Unity)	00:33
DilloDroid	right-clicking on the Mac share icon in Nautilus provides no further detail	00:34
BasketCase	Google seems to indicate that OSX shares are Samba shares so you would want to setup Samba server to emulate what OSX does	00:34
Exagone313	BasketCase: just use openssh with sftp	00:35
Exagone313	DilloDroid: *	00:35
BasketCase	I would just not use OSX :P	00:35
Exagone313	I'm sure there is a fuse-based program to mount sftp	00:35
DilloDroid	I have installed Samba and ssh	00:35
DilloDroid	to no avail	00:35
BasketCase	samba needs some setup	00:35
DilloDroid	I want nothing to do with the command line	00:36
Exagone313	command line is not scary	00:36
DilloDroid	making a 'static ip' or whatever?	00:36
DilloDroid	just should be unnecessary in Unity	00:36
DilloDroid	There should be a File Sharing panel in System Tools	00:36
DilloDroid	they need to work on that	00:37
DilloDroid	make it as simple as Apple	00:37
logical	Hi, where can i find the fonts folder ?	00:37
mcphail	DilloDroid: right-click -> properties -> network share on a folder in Nautilus should work	00:38
DilloDroid	I've done that	00:38
DilloDroid	the problem is that the machines don't see each other, nor can the Macs see them	00:38
DilloDroid	they're all connected to the same router	00:39
Z750	they cant 'see' them via the network gui? or they cant connect even if you enter the ip	00:39
DilloDroid	it's way before authorizing certain shared folders	00:39
BasketCase	samba is the thing that makes it show up	00:39
lordcirth	logical, /usr/share/fonts	00:39
DilloDroid	I've installed Samba	00:39
BasketCase	it has to be running	00:40
lordcirth	Also /usr/local/share/fonts	00:40
DilloDroid	I just opened Smb4k	00:41
DilloDroid	nothing showing up	00:41
DilloDroid	in the 'network neighborhood	00:41
DilloDroid	'	00:41
BasketCase	never heard of smb4k	00:41
Bray90820	How would I add a boot flag to ubuntu live USB	00:41
DilloDroid	As I said, they really need to add a File Sharing tool in System Tools	00:42
DilloDroid	anyway, thanks for all your suggestions :)	00:42
logical	lordcirth ty found it :D	00:43
melio	nothing is installing wtf.	00:43
melio	i just got a big red circle with a line in it. clicked it. said "there's an update!" so i said ok. deal with it. and it just sits there.	00:43
melio	only thing i can think of is there's a lock file from a crash still in the sources dir	00:45
Bashing-om	melio: What does the terminal tell you ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ' ?	00:47
melio	it's working	00:48
melio	but when i try to do printer drivers, or this update it's locking up as soon as it starts	00:48
melio	it's acting really strange cause terminal has no issues with apt-get. except i can't install openjre-8-sdk without -f option which seems strange too	00:49
Bashing-om	melio: Pastebin the errors , in context with the command(s) .	00:49
melio	ok	00:49
melio	Bashing-om, http://pastebin.com/rtEs68Ba	00:51
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melio	should i just apt-get -f upgrade	00:52
melio	seems unnessicary	00:52
melio	i never had to fix ubuntu like this	00:52
melio	doing the -f option - http://pastebin.com/k3JMJm3h	00:55
Bashing-om	melio: Is this a 32 bit system ? or why is " libc6:i386 (>= 2.2.4) but it is not installed " required ?	00:57
melio	it should be a 64bit system	00:58
melio	lemme make sure it's highly possible i grabbed the wrong iso/usb	00:58
melio	Linux melio-Q550LF 4.4.0-34-generic #53-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jul 27 16:06:39 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux	00:58
melio	HexChat: 2.10.2 OS: Linux 4.4.0-34-generic x86_64 Distro: Ubuntu "xenial" 16.04 CPU: 4 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4500U CPU @ 1.80GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1.98GHz RAM: Physical: 7.7GiB, 51.7% free Disk: Total: 878.6GiB, 80.4% free VGA: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel HDMI1: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH Ethernet: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. CIe Gigabit	00:58
melio	Ethernet Uptime: 12h 53m 4s	00:58
melio	Bashing-om, yeah curious why an i386 arch package is part of a dependancy for anything	00:59
melio	i wonder if i can use depends on it	00:59
Bashing-om	melio: "something" installed is wanting that 32 bit library . either give it what it wants or remove what is rquiring the dependency .	01:00
melio	I dono what is.	01:01
melio	this is a brand new install	01:01
melio	only thing i can think of is my goofy printer driver that never finished installing	01:01
Bashing-om	!info libgcc1:i386	01:03
ubottu	Package libgcc1i386 does not exist in xenial	01:03
melio	!info libc6:i386	01:03
ubottu	Package libc6i386 does not exist in xenial	01:03
melio	so that might be a problem	01:03
nexusguy59	melio: I installed the frontend on xenial and one of my hosts on xenial and had no lib problems at all	01:04
melio	i installed chrome 64	01:04
melio	umm some base codecs	01:04
nexusguy59	ahhhhh got ya	01:04
Bashing-om	melio: yeah .. ok .. what results ' apt-cache policy libgcc1:i386 ; apt-cache rdepends libgcc1:i386 " . we try and get to the bottom of this .	01:04
melio	one sec. i'll do them each in line like before	01:05
Cypher-Punk	I heard Windows Vista is moar safer than Ubuntu.	01:05
melio	apt-cache policy libgcc1:i38	01:05
melio	N: Unable to locate package libgcc1:i38	01:05
Bashing-om	melio: True ^ ya want it as libgcc1:i386 .. gotta have that silly '6' .	01:06
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melio	oh sorry	01:06
melio	Bashing-om, that rdepends statement outputs every i386 program ever made	01:09
melio	it's a massive list	01:09
Bashing-om	melio: well that is scary !	01:10
melio	i'm going to look in /var/log/apt	01:11
melio	and look in hisory to see where it pulled it in	01:11
melio	this is basicly a 12 hour old install. it can't be too hard to narrow this down	01:12
melio	last thing i installed was LSB	01:12
melio	I thinkt hat's the problem	01:13
melio	lsb has the dependacy	01:13
melio	Bashing-om, http://pastebin.com/j6yndSxX	01:13
melio	lsb must be 32bit somehow. but not?	01:13
Bashing-om	melio: A look at apt-cache depends libgcc1:i386, scares me too .	01:13
melio	we both on 16.04.1?	01:14
OerHeks	your update failed with http://download.ebz.epson.net/dsc/op/stable/debian/dists/lsb3.2/Release.gpg: Signature by key E5220FB7014D0FBDA50DFC2BE5E86C008AA65D56 uses weak digest algorithm (SHA1) ... so fix that first.	01:14
melio	this is all about getting my printer to print	01:14
melio	sad isnt it?	01:14
melio	lol	01:14
melio	i feel like a 60 year old man asking his kid to help me install a printer	01:15
melio	:P	01:15
OerHeks	yes, as you didn't read the error	01:15
cpu_abuser	lol	01:15
melio	I did read it	01:15
OerHeks	no key, no files.	01:15
melio	the whole reason i'm flipping out over it is because the printer install and the update freezes the process	01:15
asrot	hi	01:15
asrot	is some one there?	01:15
melio	OerHeks, what do you suggest?	01:15
OerHeks	what guide did you follow to add that epson stuff?	01:17
melio	OerHeks, it's the same driver i ran on 14.04	01:18
melio	worked perfectly	01:18
melio	printed, showed me nice ink levels	01:18
melio	had a seperate scanner but it worked too	01:18
melio	first time ever being able to wirlessly print from a linux laptop	01:18
melio	then i upgraded to 16.04.1 64bit and I tried to install my printer and now i'm here wondering why it's trying to jam in i386 libs	01:19
Bashing-om	OerHeks: melio Pardon me but I see " Signature by key E5220FB7014D0FBDA50DFC2BE5E86C008AA65D56 uses weak digest algorithm (SHA1)" as a warning ... not an error ??	01:20
OerHeks	Bashing-om, it is ..	01:21
OerHeks	6 lines of text avoiding a simple question	01:21
Bashing-om	melio: The libgcc1:i386 requirement is of the lsb intall . per the output of the install .	01:21
melio	I didnt have lsb before. don't really care if it's gone	01:22
melio	but now sudo apt-get remove lsb doesnt even work	01:22
melio	OerHeks, i'm not frustrated, but resolving that issue is impossible using the add printer interface, it locks up trying to install it	01:23
melio	https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lsb/+bug/1536353	01:25
ubottu	Launchpad bug 1536353 in lsb "[Regression] Epson's printer driver packages cannot be installed as lsb package is not available anymore" [Undecided,New]	01:25
TUTAYA	st	01:27
OerHeks	sudo apt-get install printer-driver-escpr seems to be your solution	01:27
melio	rigt. but my apt-get breaks every time i try to use it trying to deal with that libgc6:i386 dependancy for everything	01:29
Bashing-om	melio: IRT bug report; what returns ' apt list cups-filters ; dpkg -l cups-filters ' ?	01:29
brassbonanza	need help with a WLAN issue, anyone available to help?	01:30
OerHeks	yeah, that silly line in your repos is bugging you, it never installed a package so you can delete it safely	01:30
OerHeks	but don't say what guide you follow! ever !	01:30
* OerHeks is off		01:30
melio	Bashing-om, http://pastebin.com/Yf5veFNc	01:31
melio	ok OerHeks i will	01:32
brassbonanza	Last night I was on here trying to ge thelp on a new build of 16.x and we effectively came to the conclusion I should just buy a wlan dongle - so I did this today found a guide online for installation BEFORE I went and bought it; came home with it and now I a m stuck	01:33
brassbonanza	I followed this guide http://www.humans-enabled.com/2016/03/how-to-ubuntu-1604-gnu-linux-netgear.html	01:33
brassbonanza	and I can get to the last command "sudo modprobe 8812au	01:33
brassbonanza	until I get the modprobe error: ERROR: could not insert 8812au: required key not available	01:33
melio	OerHeks, Bashing-om http://pastebin.com/XFW08y7P removed repo for epson	01:36
Bashing-om	melio: Playing catch up :)	01:37
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melio	brassbonanza, it's a usb wireless adaptor?	01:37
brassbonanza	melio correct	01:37
melio	brassbonanza, does it show up on lsusb while plugged in?	01:38
brassbonanza	yes	01:38
melio	did you disable your inoperable wifi controller?	01:38
brassbonanza	let me go check	01:40
Bashing-om	melio: Maybe, give the system what it wants is the easier way out here ?	01:41
brassbonanza	under addition drivers presumably right?	01:41
melio	Bashing-om, breaking linux is fun! :)	01:41
brassbonanza	Alright I just switched to not sure the proprietary software if that was what you meant?	01:42
melio	brassbonanza, i have no idea what you did :P	01:43
melio	brassbonanza, i assume, you are disabling the wifi adaptor on your computer with a external switch if you can	01:43
brassbonanza	external switch functionality died when I shot windows in the back of the head	01:43
melio	then trying to get the computer to recognize the power of dongle	01:43
melio	brassbonanza, i hope that dongle is compatable with linux	01:44
Bashing-om	melio: Yeah .. we do get to keep the pieces .. - I broke my system enough times that I have learned not to do that .	01:44
melio	some of them are really cheesy	01:44
nexusguy59	In my case however one of my hosts does not like the keys or my keys on the front end are crap not sure which	01:44
melio	Bashing-om, so how do you suggest i install this dependacy	01:44
brassbonanza	This is why I found a guide on how to install it beforehand	01:44
brassbonanza	http://www.humans-enabled.com/2016/03/how-to-ubuntu-1604-gnu-linux-netgear.html	01:44
brassbonanza	That is the guide I followed	01:45
Bashing-om	melio: I think ' sudo apt install libc6:i386 ' . See what the system responds with .	01:45
brassbonanza	alright let me give it a shot	01:45
melio	i tried that Bashing-om	01:45
nexusguy59	{Clapping hands/Jumping up and Down} rooting for brassbonanza for shooting windows in the noggin	01:46
Bashing-om	melio: And what did the package manager say when libc6:i386 install attempted ?	01:46
melio	Bashing-om, that errors the same way	01:46
brassbonanza	nexcusguy59 it was long overdue	01:46
melio	actualy a little differnt	01:46
brassbonanza	except I don't have wireless access now	01:47
brassbonanza	):	01:47
nexusguy59	Agreed brassbonanza, I did it about 5 years ago	01:47
melio	http://pastebin.com/30Uh5JAJ	01:47
nexusguy59	I am all Open Source now, if it can be done it gets done better with Linux	01:47
Rexy	Has anyone ever run into an issue of getting 2 lock screens? I've asked this in here a few times but I've found no fix so far	01:48
nexusguy59	You can partner, I have a probook hp probook 6470N i5 quad with 8 gb of ram and put ubuntu 16.04 picked my wireless right up	01:48
brassbonanza	@melio: I go into the folder which i gitcloned and it has several files with the tag 8812.au (what modprobe says it cannot insert) and they are '8812au.ko', '.8812au.ko.cmd', '8812.au.mod.c' '88812au.mod.o' on and on and on	01:49
brassbonanza	nexusguy59: That would've been ideal - but alas I am now on a dongle as on here last night we decided that my internal wlan controller was shit and probably wouldn't come back to life	01:49
Bashing-om	melio: Try again " 33 not fully installed:" .... ' sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.23-0ubuntu3_i386.deb ; sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ' see now what the package manager screams and hollers about .	01:50
nexusguy59	lol brassbonanza well I am not sure what you have but there has to be a way there always is	01:51
brassbonanza	nexusguy59 I found the 'way' and it breaks because 'modprobe' can't insert '8812au' because the 'required key is not available'	01:51
Rexy	One lock works fine, the other doesn't lock to my user. It's the LightDM lock screen and shows the user as "Light Display Manager" rather than my user	01:52
nexusguy59	Ahhh got ya okay well	01:52
nexusguy59	That sucks then	01:52
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brassbonanza	yep - now I am here trying to get assistance in figuring this shit out	01:52
melio	brb	01:55
aikawuran_	hello	01:58
aikawuran_	.........	01:58
aikawuran_	you ren ma	01:59
aikawuran_	quit	01:59
melio	guys. i rebooted and did a sudo apt-get update	02:00
melio	then a dpkg --configure ... etc	02:00
melio	and it wiped out the offending lsb assocations	02:00
melio	rebooting i think helped the lock file access	02:00
melio	i was right about a lock file being stuck	02:00
melio	it's all fixed. printing isnt but lsb is removed	02:01
Bashing-om	melio: :) when you re good, you are good . Printer drivers are not in my box of tools :(	02:02
melio	here check out my handywork	02:02
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melio	http://pastebin.com/cyJWZRN2	02:02
Rexy	Printers are always a bitch to get working. Doesn't matter the OS	02:02
melio	in this case. the epson model i have is cursed in 16.04	02:03
melio	worked fine in 14.02	02:03
melio	14.04.5	02:03
melio	basicly when i overwrite 14.04 I assumed it would be fine	02:03
melio	<-- wrong	02:03
Rexy	I'm not sure what to tell you. Might just need to tinker with it	02:04
melio	i'm due for a new printer	02:04
melio	it's only like too old. and printers are cheap	02:04
Rexy	That's the funny thing, Printers are cheap whilst the ink cartlidges in them are twice the price	02:04
melio	Rexy, i get refills now	02:05
Bashing-om	melio: Now bite the bullet and run ' sudo apt autoremove ' ??	02:05
melio	I can buy refills that work perfectly fine for my model of printer. but its worth the attempt with other printers too. but if theres an issue. its cheap to discover	02:05
melio	Bashing-om, I did didnt I?	02:06
melio	0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.	02:06
melio	clean slate	02:06
Bashing-om	melio: Yeah ! you did .. I just missed it (autoremove) and followed my tunnel vision .	02:07
melio	Bashing-om, i appreciate your assist on this. same with you OerHeks	02:11
stan_man_can	Anyone use PlayOnLinux?	02:12
stan_man_can	Is it alright?	02:12
melio	stan_man_can, i used it a few times. its "ok" but it lacks a lot of game configs	02:13
Bashing-om	melio: All I did was hold your hand, ya done all the work .	02:13
melio	Bashing-om, yeah but walking down a road while my head is buried in my laptop requires respect for the person guiding you	02:13
melio	er guiding me	02:14
ScriptThis	What is the proper way to flush DNS in 16.04 / systemd?	02:16
melio	ScriptThis, http://ubuntuguide.net/flush-clean-dns-cache-ubuntu-12-04-precise	02:18
melio	i bet that guide works for 16.04 too	02:18
ScriptThis	melio: Thanks, I wonder why systemctl start dns-clean.service fails to start, though? Aren't we supposed to be using systemctl commands in 16.04?	02:23
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felipe	oi	02:29
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Guest62413	Hi	02:30
Guest62413	ok	02:31
Lionyx	hi	02:31
Guest62413	Hi	02:31
aryell	hi to you to :)	02:31
Guest62413	ok	02:31
Guest62413	a hacked NSA	02:32
Guest62413	ddos attack	02:32
aryell	say what ?	02:32
dax	Guest62413: #ubuntu is for Ubuntu technical support. For other stuff, please find another channel, thanks	02:32
Guest62413	hack NSA web page ddos attack	02:32
aryell	why ?	02:33
Guest62413	ok	02:33
Lionyx	magic words? Is he a wizard?	02:33
Lionyx	He's putting a spell on us =D	02:33
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Guest62413	here click link web site page NSA error 404	02:34
Guest62413	http://nsa.gov/	02:34
thomedy	i am trying to set up a virtual host on my apache	02:34
thomedy	i found etc/apache2/apache.conf	02:34
Guest62413	ok	02:34
thomedy	i didn't see httpd.conf	02:34
thomedy	http://pastebin.com/sF43JeKm	02:34
Guest62413	ok	02:35
thomedy	that is my code for my virtual host	02:35
thomedy	im running localhost	02:35
Guest62413	Give me niake DDoS attack software I need them for dropping one page	02:38
Guest62413	Give me a link to download Tich DDoS programs.	02:38
Guest62413	Give me niake DDoS attack software I need them for dropping one page	02:38
Guest62413	Give me a link to download Tich DDoS programs	02:38
Guest62413	Give me niake DDoS attack software I need them for dropping one page	02:38
Guest62413	Give me a link to download Tich DDoS programsGive me niake DDoS attack software I need them for dropping one page	02:38
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Guest62413	Give me niake DDoS attack software I need them for dropping one page	02:38
BenderRodriguez	whoo!	02:38
BenderRodriguez	party time!	02:38
BenderRodriguez	lol :)	02:38
deri	test	02:45
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dax	success!	02:45
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Rabbitnightmare	I know this is a little off topic for this room, but I wanted to bring to your attention that AT&T is now offering Ubuntu as a choice over Windows on tablets http://imgur.com/a/ZACRU	02:59
Rabbitnightmare	mindblowing	02:59
kLOs	can anyone help me out with smartmon and ubunutu 16.04	03:00
kLOs	somehow all my /dev/sda sdb etc disappeared	03:00
kLOs	i now have /dev/disk/	03:01
kLOs	ok forget it, i'm stupid appraently :)	03:03
beyertech	Hello friends, does anyone know why on a fairly new server running 16.04.1 LTS I keep getting this error "W: No sandbox user '_apt' on the system, can not drop privileges" after running apt-get update	03:03
ohjeez	who here does it with ubuntu	03:11
dax	what	03:13
Garbage	OH	03:13
beyertech	?	03:14
Garbage	!!	03:14
beyertech	:(	03:14
tardrard	Ubuntu blew it when they messed with AMD graphic without a gui	03:14
beyertech	don't really care about graphics when using for servers ....	03:14
beyertech	so I take it no one has seen that before then?	03:15
Bray90820	If I already have grub installed is there a way to boot ubuntu live?	03:15
ubuntubastard	Hola my friends! I'm looking for someone who has a combination knowledge of EAC (Exact Audio Copy) and Wine.	03:22
ubuntubastard	I'm trying to install Exact Audio Copy on Ubuntu 16.04	03:23
ubuntubastard	it works fine when I install under wine, but my freedb server list requires something called .net framework 3.0-3.5	03:23
zodiac19	I can suggest trying ot use playonlinux to install exact audio copy	03:23
ubuntubastard	I can't seem to get it to work. I install the .net framework successfully but freedb doesn't recognize it still	03:24
ubuntubastard	I tried PlayOnLinux	03:24
ubuntubastard	it still doesn't recognize my Freedb server	03:25
ubuntubastard	does anyone have any experience with EAC on wine?	03:25
zodiac19	don't know what to tell you then, I usually mass google my problem in a million different ways to solve my problems, but Maybe you can use Ask ubuntu?	03:25
BlaDe^	hi, does runsv restart just send a SIGHUP to the process?	03:26
BlaDe^	sorry, sv restart	03:26
ubuntubastard	I tried Google, nobody seems to have a problem because they all have Windows machines	03:26
schemanic_	hey how do I register with nickserv	03:26
ubuntubastard	:(	03:26
zykotick9	!register \| schemanic_	03:26
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schemanic_	I keep messaging nickserv but it wont identify me	03:27
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ubuntubastard	:(	03:29
ubuntubastard	:(	03:29
BlaDe^	anyone? :)	03:30
BlaDe^	wondering if I can intercept and block a sv restart, basically	03:30
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LionKing	Yo?	03:37
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-hoadley:#ubuntu- FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET !		03:45
-pulver:#ubuntu- FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET !		03:45
-toril:#ubuntu- FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET !		03:45
-makam:#ubuntu- FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET !		03:45
-hoadley:#ubuntu- FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET !		03:45
dax	Ignore the above, it's spam. Thanks.	03:45
beyertech	oh really?	03:53
beyertech	who would've known	03:53
lordcirth	An odd channel to spam for	03:56
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dax	lordcirth: (they're not spamming for it, they're anti-WP and trying to get them in trouble)	04:00
hal9k_	Hi guys. I'm really new to linux, but have a simple question you maybe can help me with. I have at touchscreen and i would like to have an indicator at the panel enabling/disabling touchscreen. I found out i can do it in bash by typing xinput disable or enable the ID. And I found out that you can add an indicator which launchs a command.	04:09
zodiac19	hal9k $ sudo apt-get update	04:11
zodiac19	$ sudo apt-get install touchpad-indicator	04:11
zodiac19	actually use this first: $ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:atareao/atareao	04:12
hal9k_	@zodiac19 its not for touchpad but for screen	04:12
hal9k_	I need some kind of simple bash command if disabled:enable if enabled:disable	04:13
zodiac19	sudo apt-get install dconf-editor	04:13
zodiac19	try that, my bad	04:13
hal9k_	I already god dconf-editor. I know the command to disable and enable, but not knowing bash scripting	04:15
hal9k_	tbh	04:15
zodiac19	also check your system settings, if you have a tablet option you may want to explore it	04:15
hal9k_	Well its just my notebook, fucking annoying with touchscreen. Are you familiar with bash scripting?	04:16
zodiac19	I am not familiar with bash, I'm rather new as well, however I am really good on google	04:17
zodiac19	maybe check this:https://autohotkey.com/board/topic/101948-device-touchscreen-disablerenabler/	04:17
zodiac19	https://autohotkey.com/board/topic/101948-device-touchscreen-disablerenabler/	04:17
hal9k_	hahahaha	04:18
hal9k_	Mate	04:18
hal9k_	you just sent me 2(!) links of windows related fixes	04:18
hal9k_	:D	04:18
hal9k_	Kinda made my day.	04:18
zodiac19	these programs can run on wine	04:19
OerHeks	lolz ..	04:19
hal9k_	hahahha	04:19
hal9k_	Dude	04:19
hal9k_	as i said its a command "xinput disable 9"	04:19
hal9k_	or enable	04:19
hal9k_	i dont want to wine shit	04:19
cfhowlett	hal9k_, drop the profanity. this is a family friendly channel	04:20
hal9k_	@cfhowlett @Zodiac19 Yeah, I'm really sorry. Thank you for your try zodiac19, much appreciated (:	04:21
astrill	can someone help me	04:32
cfhowlett	!ask \| astrill	04:32
ubottu	astrill: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience	04:32
astrill	ok well is there any difference between 14.4.4 and 16?	04:33
cfhowlett	yes	04:33
astrill	what may that be	04:33
cfhowlett	read the release notes	04:33
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astrill	on 16 i am getting blackscreen alot when i load it up and login and stuff i have to go on Recovery mode so it wont blackscreen anyway to fix that	04:34
cfhowlett	!nomodeset \| astrill start with this	04:35
ubottu	astrill start with this: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter	04:35
Rexy	Any altnatives to Light-locker? I keep having cursor issues after unlocking	04:43
cfhowlett	Rexy, lightlocker is the default standard but I suppose you could rip it out and replace it. not sure you wouldn't trigger dependency issues.	04:43
Rexy	cfhowlett: I had to manually install it, wasn't on my system iirc	04:44
Rexy	Ubuntu is working perfectly other than the lock screen. Have had nothing but troubles	04:45
astrill	how do i open my Grub in terminal	04:46
astrill	i forgot	04:46
cfhowlett	!grub \| astrill	04:46
ubottu	astrill: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2	04:46
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deathcard	gawd	04:48
deathcard	i have a raging boner	04:49
deathcard	wanna smell ???	04:49
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astrill	i think i fixed the blackscreen problem	05:28
cfhowlett	nomodeset??	05:29
astrill	ye	05:29
cfhowlett	nice!	05:29
astrill	i hope it worked	05:30
hateball	nomodeset is not really a fix, more like a workaround until you fix the real problem :p	05:32
zodiac19	hail hydra	05:39
n0th1n6	o yeah	05:40
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Nicho1as	I just found an interesting symptom of this ../xenial/../hd-media/initrd.gz; it selects the iso file of debian 8.5 rather than that of ubuntu-16.04	05:59
atitest	xorg	06:00
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Nicho1as	can you affect how the installer selects the iso file?	06:01
Nicho1as	I just found an interesting symptom of this ../xenial/../hd-media/initrd.gz; it selects the iso file of debian 8.5 rather than that of ubuntu-16.04	06:02
Ben64	Nicho1as: can you explain more? that doesn't make sense	06:04
Nicho1as	Ben64: I have a usb memory stick that's got syslinux bootloader installed with debian 8.5, archlinux, memtest and I'm trying to add ubuntu server into the menu	06:07
Nicho1as	I'm reading 'Alternate Install (Ubuntu 9.10)' from this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USB%20Installation%20Media	06:08
_132ikl	Hello	06:08
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tiox	I have found myseelf in an interesting situation; I have a friend I would like to show Ubuntu to, but my system was installed on a machine that uses BIOS only, and my friend's machine uses UEFI, though I could disable secure boot to work around that.	06:31
tiox	If I didn't want to force BIOS on my friend's machine, what should I do to make my present install compatible with both UEFI and BIOS?	06:31
alkisg	tiox: do you mean to transfer your hard disk there, or some usb stick or cd?	06:32
tiox	I mean, to make my Ubuntu installation UEFI-capable.	06:32
nipnor	is this place better support than something like reddit?	06:33
alkisg	tiox: normally you would use the ubuntu live cd, which is uefi-capable, to boot his machine	06:33
hateball	nipnor: Try asking your question and find out	06:33
alkisg	tiox: why is your setup related to that?	06:33
tiox	If I cannot do that without breaking support or being destructive to my system install, I would be happy with using a USB drive with an UEFI-capable bootloader to chain-boot into a BIOS system.	06:33
nipnor	okey... is windows 8 better than ubuntu?	06:34
tiox	without breaking BIOS support*	06:34
alkisg	tiox: what I don't understand is, you have 2 machines with 2 different disks, right? So you need 2 installations. Why are you speaking of 1 installation only? Do you plan to transfer your hard disk to the other machine?	06:34
hateball	nipnor: This place is for Ubuntu support, not trolling. If you want to chat go to #ubuntu-offtopic	06:34
tiox	I have two machines and I want to use the same disk on both since it's USB-connected.	06:34
alkisg	Right, that's the info I was missing	06:35
nipnor	okay, just joshing, i apologize	06:35
tiox	Also, no, Ubuntu si not better than Windows 8 if Ubuntu cannot support your software needs.	06:35
tiox	is not better*	06:35
tiox	A common misconception is that Linux is better always; Linux has its own set of issues, Ubuntu is no exception.	06:36
nipnor	that is a software developers problem for not supporting ubuntu	06:36
nipnor	its nothing to do with ubuntu...	06:36
tiox	It's everything to do with Ubuntu for the user.	06:36
nipnor	i know lol	06:36
alkisg	tiox: you can make your external disk uefi-capable, this wiki page has a section on how to enable uefi after installing to plain mbr: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI#Converting_Ubuntu_into_UEFI_or_Legacy_mode	06:36
jim_wang	good idea.	06:37
tiox	Though I do not believe this is the proper venue to go in-depth about user perceptions and differences between each system.	06:37
tiox	The short of it is; Ultimately, people may not be interested in Ubuntu if you cannot prove it is equally capable of the same things Windows is. Since some software is exclusive to Windows for various reasons, a user may not be convinced Ubuntu is better, and thus worth the trouble.	06:38
tiox	Thus not worth the trouble, rather. Yeah it's software developer's fault, but they gotta make that sweet, sweet monies and some can only do it on Windows, due to market share.	06:39
gambl0re	how can i free up some space on my ubuntu	06:40
gambl0re	like tmp files etc..	06:40
tiox	gambl0re: Depends on what's taking your disk space.	06:41
alkisg	gambl0re: `sudo apt-get clean` is one, and if `ls /boot/vmlinuz*` shows a lot of files, you can also purge the old kernel packages	06:41
tiox	I would start with removing downloaded files you'll never, ever have a use for again, or are confident will be available years from now.	06:41
tiox	And yes, those commands to remove temp files dpkg / apt grabs.	06:41
gambl0re	i checked my downloaded folder and its empty	06:41
gambl0re	trash is empty also	06:42
tiox	Just note if reinstalling a piece of software, apt or dpkg wil need to fetch those files again, ths cluttering your machine with package dependencies once again.	06:42
jarnos	Downloading does not work from download.ubuntu.ocm	06:42
jarnos	Downloading does not work from download.ubuntu.com	06:42
tiox	Is there smething similar to windirstat for Ubuntu?	06:42
jarnos	Downloading does not work from archive.ubuntu.com	06:42
xangua	tiox: what is windirstat?	06:43
tiox	Nevermind, there is an alternative for Linux; Baobab.	06:43
tiox	Is baobab still provided by default these days or are users forced to install it?	06:43
hateball	gambl0re: "sudo apt-get autoremove" will remove old/unneeded packages like old kernels	06:44
xangua	!search baobab	06:44
ubottu	Found: diskfree	06:44
tiox	(baobab should appear as "Disk usage Analizer" in your application menu.)	06:44
tiox	Disk Usage Analyzer*	06:44
gambl0re	i ran sudo apt-get clean and it freed up only about 100mb	06:46
gambl0re	i only have 700mb of free space	06:46
tiox	gambl0re: If you don't see it, do "sudo apt-get install baobab" then after, press Alt + F2 and type in "baobab" or search "Disk usage Analyzer"	06:46
gambl0re	im running disk space analyzer right now	06:46
tiox	k	06:46
gambl0re	its doing its thing at the moment	06:46
tiox	Wherever it says most of your space is being taken, see what files there can be removed.	06:47
tiox	Or, if it's a bunch of system stuff, I would suggest upgrading what media you have Ubuntu on.	06:47
Bashing-om	gambl0re: ' dpkg -l \| grep linux- ' many old kernels listed ?	06:47
gambl0re	im also running ubuntu inside a vm	06:47
tiox	But that depends on what files are there, and I don't wish to be at fault for you rm'ing the wrong stuff.	06:48
gambl0re	analyzer is finished running	06:48
gambl0re	what info would like to know	06:48
tiox	Some screen captiires would be nice; I believe Alt + Print Screen captures the current window, do that in baobab, save somewhere and upload.	06:49
tiox	screen captures*	06:49
tiox	(Also it has been an age since I used baobab.)	06:50
gambl0re	i just sent like 600mb to the trash but now when im trying to empty the trash its been trying to prepare for a while now	06:55
gambl0re	is this normal	06:55
gambl0re	hoow long does it take to prepare to empty the trash	06:58
gambl0re	ive been waiting for over 2mins now	06:58
hateball	gambl0re: if it's a lot of small files it can take a while, but minutes is a bit long	07:00
hateball	unless you have a slow HDD	07:00
tiox	When in doubt, rm -rf ~/.local/share/Trash/files/*	07:05
gzoo	Q: I need some help configuring my monitor for 2560x1440 with my NVIDIA graphics card. I get a max of 2560x1080 available. On Windows 7 I had to create a custom resolution from the NVIDIA panel, but no such option on the Linux menu.	07:10
gzoo	I realize I have to fiddle around with xorg.conf, but I need some help with that as it's been a while since I handled it	07:11
gzoo	I did all kinds of `cvt 2560 1440 60`, and added the modeline somewhere in xorg.conf, but I think something decided to delete the customizations for me	07:11
hateball	gzoo: have you tried using nvidia-settings ?	07:13
hateball	oh, I see now	07:13
gzoo	hateball, yes. It allows a resolution up to 2560x1080 instead of 1440 and I didn't find an option to create a custom resolution like I did on windows	07:13
zoli	hi is there a way to automatically enter password for sudo on a remote host where root login is not possible?	07:43
astrill	i just blackscreened again :(	07:44
WACOMalt	Hey folks. In general, is do-release-upgrade a safer process?	07:46
WACOMalt	I'm on 14.04	07:46
WACOMalt	*safe	07:46
Keitaro	hello guys	07:47
WACOMalt	Hi	07:47
Keitaro	anyone know what is the difference and how to know if a version of ubuntu is an international version ?	07:47
salami	WACOMalt in general, yes, but it can still fail catastrophically	07:48
WACOMalt	Eeee	07:48
WACOMalt	So basically, don't do it in production	07:48
Keitaro	i ask that because people says that only the international version can boot in efi	07:48
salami	WACOMalt well you should have a solid backup plan in production anyway?	07:48
WACOMalt	Well, "in production" here mean super small scale personal server	07:49
akik	Keitaro: no it's the same iso version for everybody	07:49
WACOMalt	Just runs znc and few web servers with zpanel	07:49
Keitaro	akik, oki because with my version i can start ubuntu in efi	07:50
salami	WACOMalt then I'd just go for it if I were you...	07:50
Keitaro	after i take test ubuntu without install it load i see the differents led under the ubuntu name and after it blocks	07:51
WACOMalt	In this case, fail catastrophically though means what exactly, need physical access to the machine to fix it?	07:51
WACOMalt	It's off in a datacenter somewhere	07:51
salami	WACOMalt I once had one with a broken bootloader, so yeah	07:51
uebera\|\|	WACOMalt: "catastrophically" implies that you need to be able to boot the machine using a rescue image.	07:51
WACOMalt	Though i do have ILO access	07:52
WACOMalt	So i could do that	07:52
WACOMalt	Hmmm. Best tool to fully backup a disk image over the network?	07:52
akik	kaisome video chips have problems starting the gui	07:52
WACOMalt	Of the whole machine	07:52
akik	Keitero: some video chips have problems starting the gui	07:53
uebera\|\|	WACOMalt: dd\|gzip\|netcat ?	07:53
WACOMalt	Can you dd the running drive?	07:53
WACOMalt	I'm still very much a noob	07:53
codelab	codelab	07:53
uebera\|\|	WACOMalt: You can.	07:53
WACOMalt	Ok awesome	07:53
salami	WACOMalt the question is, how would you restore that image back to the server?	07:53
WACOMalt	ILO	07:53
WACOMalt	i guess	07:53
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akik	Keitaro: you can start the live dvd adding nomodeset to the kernel boot options and see if it helps	07:54
Keitaro	akik can you explain plz	07:55
Keitaro	how can i add nomo deset	07:55
astrill	i did nomodeset and it still does it	07:55
alkisg	WACOMalt: do you have enough free space on the server? if so, you can just copy everything to a subdir while it's booted...	07:56
WACOMalt	Not sure.	07:57
alkisg	WACOMalt: df -f will tell you	07:57
astrill	WACoMalt: what do you need help with	07:57
WACOMalt	Oh thanks, was just googling	07:57
alkisg	If you have 10 GB occupied, and e.g. 15 free, it's enough	07:57
WACOMalt	df -f invalid option f	07:58
alkisg	df -h, sorry	07:58
niko	/10/scroend	07:58
astrill	what is h4 trying to do	07:58
astrill	he	07:58
WACOMalt	Np :p	07:59
alkisg	do-release-upgrade, but backup first	07:59
alkisg	astrill: ^	07:59
WACOMalt	83% used on a 500GB drive	08:00
alkisg	WACOMalt: you don't need to backup /home, so don't count that	08:01
WACOMalt	Oh, that doesn't get touched?	08:01
WACOMalt	Good deal	08:01
alkisg	The possibility of do-release-upgrade destroying /home is very low	08:01
WACOMalt	Ill back that up separately	08:02
WACOMalt	Thats the only stuff i dont want to lose	08:02
WACOMalt	Can I do dd if=/home ?	08:02
alkisg	No, but you can do cp -a /home /target	08:02
akik	Keitaro: when you boot the live dvd, you'll get a menu right at the start. stop the boot process and add "nomodeset" to the line that says "linux"	08:03
Keitaro	you mean is the grub ?	08:03
akik	Keitaro: you might need to press "f6" if i remember correctly or "e"	08:03
akik	Keitaro: yes grub	08:03
Keitaro	wish line ?	08:04
Keitaro	i have test ubuntu without install	08:04
Keitaro	or install ubuntu	08:04
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alkisg	Keitaro: https://www.maketecheasier.com/assets/uploads/2009/12/ubuntukarmic-bootup-screen.png	08:06
alkisg	That menu shows up if you press space very early in the boot process	08:06
WACOMalt	Ok, looks like home isn't too big. Under 100MB	08:09
juacado	join #eclipse	08:09
juacado	sorry :)	08:09
newcomer25	The whole Law is fulfilled in one statement: ‘You’ll love your neighbour as much as yourself’ - Galatians 5:14	08:09
newcomer25	God bless you all and have fun using Ubuntu linux!	08:09
WACOMalt	Is there, by any chance, a good web-based backend to let you graphically see your disk usage, similar to WinDirStat on Windows?	08:10
WACOMalt	Probably asking for too much	08:10
Keitaro	after pushing e i have some text	08:10
Keitaro	set params and splash	08:10
WACOMalt	I'm sure there's a whole lot I don't need	08:10
viktor133	hi all. my lenses in ubuntu dash aren't working to search files (any sort) and folders, only applications. any suggestions?	08:34
aryell	hello	08:35
aryell	just stopping by to see how is everyone doing ...	08:35
aryell	:)	08:35
Netek	msg nickserv identify netek27801l	08:38
Netek	no way hah	08:38
hateball	Netek: have you changed password?	08:39
Netek	hateball I am trying to figure out how	08:39
Netek	ok it changed	08:40
Netek	woot	08:40
hateball	Netek: consider setting up automatic auth in your client	08:41
Netek	hateball yes I need to do something heh. Nearly had a heart attack when I saw the login text in the wrong color hah	08:41
tripelb	My 16.04 os computer, suddenly, can't see any wifi. What did I do last? alt-get update, then alt-get upgrade. It is 16-04	08:43
FinalX	Netek: what I always do when I haven't put it up as automatic, is go to my status window to auth. That way when you mess up, it has nowhere to go.	08:43
Netek	FinalX yes normally I do it like this but for some reason I did it on the wrong window. I think it is because I didnt have coffee yet :)	08:43
sohail-ahmed	I am unable to any irc server through any client can some body please help?	08:43
blackflow	Netek: which irc client are you using?	08:44
sohail-ahmed	irssi and pidgin	08:44
Netek	blackflow hexchat	08:45
k1l	sohail-ahmed: whats the error? does hexchat work?	08:45
blackflow	Netek: then it should be very easy to set up sasl with password so you auth automatically	08:45
sohail-ahmed	I dont have hexchat installed but I can if its required. Here is the irssi error Unable to connect server open.ircnet.net port 6667 [Network is unreachable]	08:46
k1l	sohail-ahmed: are you sure that url is right? and that the irc network is working?	08:47
sohail-ahmed	previously pidgin was working perfectly....	08:47
k1l	sohail-ahmed: seems, like that irc network is down. doesnt work for me, too	08:47
sohail-ahmed	How do I know irc network is working?	08:47
Netek	brb I see if this works	08:48
sohail-ahmed	I just want to connect chat.freenode.net throught pidgin or irssi	08:48
Keitaro	generally how much swap do we need on ubuntu ?	08:49
Keitaro	1 or 2 gb ?	08:49
k1l	sohail-ahmed: you said ircnet not freenode	08:49
Netek	I think it worked :) Thanks for the push in the right direction blackflow I would have never known that was there	08:49
k1l	sohail-ahmed: ircnet seems to be down. so use freenode and that should work	08:49
brunch875	I want to install django but the package uploaded in the repositories isn't the latest version. Is it a bad idea to install it via pip instead?	08:49
sohail-ahmed	I thought freenode is a server name on irc	08:49
k1l	Keitaro: swap=ram size	08:49
blackflow	Netek: yw. note that more security paranoid would suggest SASL with a pubkey, but password over encrypted connection works just fine (just make sure you're connecting ecnrypted).	08:50
k1l	sohail-ahmed: freenode is an own irc network. its a different one from ircnet.net.	08:50
Netek	blackflow sure. Now I need this coffee to wake me up a bit, brb heh	08:50
sohail-ahmed	I am sorry for being too noob but when I do /connect chat.freenode.net ...its not connecting too	08:50
k1l	sohail-ahmed: what is the error?	08:51
Keitaro	ki1 i have to take 32 gb of swap ?	08:51
blackflow	k1l: seriously? swap = RAM size? So if I have 32G of RAM, I should set up 32G of swap?	08:51
Keitaro	it looks like a lot	08:51
sohail-ahmed	Unable to connect server chat.freenode.net port 6697 [Network is unreachable]	08:51
Keitaro	k1l	08:51
blackflow	Keitaro: personally I'd keep 1-2 GB around to push out unused pages which are often present, esp. if you have many dektop-y programs running	08:51
blackflow	Keitaro: the swap = ram size applies only if you want to hibernate	08:52
k1l	blackflow: Keitaro the only thing that really needs a correct amount of swap size is hibernation. and that needs swap=ram. if you dont want o use hibernation then you can set it to what you want.	08:52
Keitaro	oh oki	08:52
tripelb	My 16.04 os computer, suddenly, can't see any wifi hotspots and there are many around. . What did I do just before? alt-get update, then alt-get upgrade. also I had added the gnome-classic applicatiin menu to unity. - switched to 14.04 kubuntu and all is well. how do I fix 16.04?	08:52
Keitaro	oki i see thx	08:53
unnamed_	hello guys	08:53
unnamed_	can someone help me , via pm with some basic ubuntu commands	08:53
k1l	!pm \| unnamed_	08:53
ubottu	unnamed_: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice.	08:53
unnamed_	:[	08:53
sohail-ahmed	Unable to connect server chat.freenode.net port 6697 [Network is unreachable]	08:53
bazhang	try the manual unnamed_	08:53
Netek	ok so I have written a script that informs our clients if their services are up or down (web server, ftp server, mail server and so on) Would it be in any way a security threat displaying this information to the public or should it be kept private?	08:53
unnamed_	how do i .............. see.......... the ....... host names that have connnected to my ubuntu	08:54
Netek	sohail-ahmed change port to 6666	08:54
bazhang	!manual \| unnamed_	08:54
ubottu	unnamed_: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/	08:54
Netek	so /connect chat.freenode.net:6666	08:54
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sohail-ahmed	Unable to connect server chat.freenode.net port 6666 [Network is unreachable]	08:54
unnamed_	!manual	08:54
Seveas	unnamed_: in general: you don't. If there is a specific service you're interested in (such as ssh or http), you can generally check the logs of that daemon.	08:54
unnamed_	ok..	08:54
bazhang	!rute \| unnamed_ and these links too	08:55
ubottu	unnamed_ and these links too: documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - https://www.andrew.cmu.edu/course/95-799/rute.pdf	08:55
unnamed_	surely theres a way	08:55
k1l	sohail-ahmed: is your internet firewalled?	08:55
Netek	sohail-ahmed maybe you are banned.. can you telnet chat.freenode.net port 6666	08:55
sohail-ahmed	I don't think so	08:55
bazhang	unnamed_, read all those links given	08:55
Seveas	sohail-ahmed: try port 6667	08:55
Netek	sohail-ahmed these are freenoce servers and ports you could try out http://irc.netsplit.de/servers/?net=freenode	08:56
unnamed_	Question : without going over 1 gig . what essential programs/software is a MUST have ?	08:56
unnamed_	im connected v ia my phone	08:56
sohail-ahmed	Trying 2a00:1a28:1100:11::42... Trying 2001:6b0:e:2a18::118... Trying 2610:150:3b0f::2... Trying 2a01:270:0:666f::1... telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Network is unreachable	08:56
tripelb	oh no, my applicatiins menu in gnome-classic DE on kubuntu is blank. Is therr some way I can get the normal menu items to come back/reappear ?	08:56
k1l	sohail-ahmed: try a ssl port: 7070	08:56
Seveas	sohail-ahmed: try an ipv4 address. Maybe your ipv6 setup is broken.	08:56
Rarrikins	sohail-ahmed: Does 139.162.227.51 work?	08:57
unnamed_	!rute	08:57
ubottu	documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - https://www.andrew.cmu.edu/course/95-799/rute.pdf	08:57
grimel	Hi, all. Can I somehow get the list of packages, removed recently, sorted by the date of removing?	08:57
unnamed_	!manual	08:57
ubottu	The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/	08:57
k1l	sohail-ahmed: oh, that seems like an ipv6 issue on your setup	08:57
bazhang	unnamed_, theee are plenty of websites of what to do first/install once you get ubuntu installed	08:57
unnamed_	I know the essential cmd	08:57
unnamed_	more security	08:58
bazhang	http://ubuntu-manual.org/ unnamed_	08:58
bazhang	read that first	08:58
unnamed_	done	08:58
sohail-ahmed	Yes it is a dns problem..... \connect 139.162.227.51 worked.... but now how can I resolve the dns problem for my irssi client.... my browser is working correctly	08:58
bazhang	its a pdf unnamed_	08:58
blackflow	sohail-ahmed: it's not dns problem but ipv6 problem, force your client to use ipv4 connections	08:59
blackflow	or find out why ipv6 doesn't work	08:59
sohail-ahmed	so my client is not configured to use ipv6 adrresses??	08:59
Rarrikins	sohail-ahmed: No, your client is configured to use IPv6, and IPv6 doesn't work.	09:00
blackflow	I don't know what the problem is, but "network unreachable" suggest that the ipv6 address is unreachable, and you have to find out why.	09:00
Rarrikins	sohail-ahmed: You need to use IPv4.	09:00
sohail-ahmed	can you please tell the google term to search??	09:01
Rarrikins	sohail-ahmed: Force irssi to use IPv4	09:01
sohail-ahmed	thank you every body for your time and effort ... I really appreciate	09:02
blackflow	sohail-ahmed: it's not that simple. just use ipv4, but if you want to figure out why ipv6 doesn't work, first you start by checking AAAA records of chat.freenode.net, then you ping6 each to see if basic ipv6 networking works, and if doesn't check if your local ipv6 is correctly configured, or try mtr.	09:02
viktor133	could somebody help me with my lenses? they only find files i already opened before...	09:02
tripelb	oh no, my applicatiins menu in gnome-classic DE on kubuntu is blank. Is therr some way I can get the normal menu items to come back/reappear ?	09:02
akik	sohail-ahmed: you can tell your linux to prefer ipv6 connections by editing /etc/gai.conf (precedence lines)	09:03
akik	sohail-ahmed: sorry, prefer ipv4 connections	09:03
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blackflow	in a world where ipv4 is depleted and we're struggling to push over to ipv6, I find advice to just use ipv4 appalling. Rather, find out why ipv6 doesn't work and fix that.	09:04
tripelb	i fixed it. ediy menu has restore default.	09:05
tripelb	:-P	09:05
Dro	is it safe to upgrade from ubuntu 14.04 to 16.04.1 ?	09:05
Grorco	hey I'm running mate and my help menu for my games just pop up saying URL cannot be shown. Any idea on a fix?	09:05
Dro	should i update or backup anything?	09:05
Seveas	blackflow: and in a less purist world we just use what works. if ipv6 doesn't work, then don't use it.	09:05
viktor133	Dro, yes, but always back-up anyway	09:05
Dro	ok	09:06
blackflow	Seveas: I'd agree with you, but in this case we need to solve that chicken-egg problem with ipv6, and going the route of less resistance ain't gonna help :)	09:06
Seveas	grimel: you can look in /var/log/dpkg.log	09:06
Seveas	blackflow: I'm 100% meh on ipv6. ipv4 isn't depleted by a long shot, all you'll see now is that people will start selling unused ipv4 blocks at a big premium.	09:07
unnamed_	how do i become a l33t hax0r i just wana be er33t	09:07
Seveas	unnamed_: repeatedly hit alt+f4 untill you feel l33t.	09:08
grimel	Seveas: I already found a better alternative - /var/log/apt/history.log, it has better representation, but thank you anyway	09:08
bazhang	unnamed_, try the chat channel for that	09:08
unnamed_	ahh ive fallen for that before.1! it just closes the program!	09:08
unnamed_	:D	09:08
unnamed_	ok thanks	09:08
Seveas	grimel: that may be incomplete: packages may have been deleted with dpkg instead of apt, those actions don't show up in the apt logs :)	09:08
Wanderer-	Im trying to change the owner of my external hard-drive which is currently owned by root to my user account but i cant. Do the drive need to be unmounted ?	09:09
salami	Seveas ISPs are switching over customers to DSLite and similar crap en masse, for those IPv6 is the only way around crappy NAT	09:09
Rarrikins	Wanderer-: What filesystem is on it?	09:10
Seveas	salami: or getting a better isp.	09:10
Wanderer-	Rarrikins, its an NTFS filesystem	09:10
salami	Seveas for many that is not an option	09:10
grimel	Seveas, ok, I'll have a closer look to dkpg.log)	09:10
Seveas	salami: only in italy	09:10
blackflow	Seveas: while this is not theh channel for this discussion, you know what I meant :) exactly that it's sold out to companies who can now skyrocket the prices, is what "depletion" means in this case.	09:10
Seveas	at least, I haven't heard of any other countries where carrier grade nat is so popular	09:11
blackflow	and APNIC already has ipv6 only connections because there it _literally_ is depleted.	09:11
Rarrikins	Wanderer-: Are you automounting it or manually mounting it?	09:11
Seveas	Wanderer-: NTFS doesn't understand unix permissions, they are emulated as mount options.	09:11
Wanderer-	Im automounting it, i removed the nosuid option if that matters	09:12
Seveas	blackflow: apnic has no connections, it just sells ip space. For asian companies, their only option now is to buy ip space on the free market instead of from apnic.	09:12
Wanderer-	Well the reason i need to do it is because some of my torrents cannot resume their state on deluge, because the files are owned by root, running deluge as root doesnt solve the issue	09:12
Rarrikins	Wanderer-: The first few answers to this question seems to handle it: https://askubuntu.com/questions/113733/how-do-i-correctly-mount-a-ntfs-partition-in-etc-fstab	09:13
Wanderer-	ok let me try that	09:14
jeron	msg Nickserv	09:15
k1l	Wanderer-: did you try chown the mountpoint?	09:15
jeron	fuck	09:15
Wanderer-	i did not try to chown the mountpoint k1l , is that recommended ?	09:16
Rarrikins	jeron: Best to always do that in the status window.	09:16
k1l	Wanderer-: yes.	09:17
jeron	Rarrikins: can you tell it's been a while since I've used IRC haha	09:18
jeron	it says my nick is registered but it hasn't changed my user or anything	09:18
jeron	so meh	09:18
Wanderer-	k1l, should i recursively chown the mnt? or unmount everything, chown it to my user and then remount ?	09:18
Guest10178	\help	09:19
jeron	Guest10178: try forwardslash	09:19
k1l	Wanderer-: chown the mountpoint when unmounted.	09:19
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jim	hi... how can I find out if ttf-mscorefonts-installer is a package in ubuntu, if so what packages does it depend on and what packages depend on it?	09:21
Rarrikins	jim: apt show ttf-mscorefonts-installer	09:21
frudo	hi	09:22
jeron	hi	09:22
netvixtra	hi	09:22
jeron	hi	09:22
bazhang	jeron, do you have an ubuntu support issue	09:22
jeron	bazhang: no idk why I'm here actually	09:23
jeron	I just installed smuxi and it took me here	09:23
bazhang	jeron, try the chat channel then	09:23
Grorco	I just realized I cant change the colors on hexchat :(	09:23
jeron	okeydokey	09:23
Bayangan	hi... how can i change Polari header-bar (csd) in ubuntu (Unity). its too small.	09:23
bazhang	#hexchat can help with that Grorco	09:24
frudo	what is best tool for check data transfer in aws instance..	09:24
Grorco	bazhang, thanks, one thing at a time though	09:24
Bayangan	is there any css style to change headerbar height	09:25
blackflow	frudo: I'm sure aws has monitoring and graphing of that, but you could use something like vnstat on your machine to track the traffic yourself	09:27
Grorco	any ideas on why programs trying to add to the all help menu wouldn't be successful?	09:28
wolfmoon	Hello	09:32
wolfmoon	I have a question	09:32
hateball	!ask	09:32
ubottu	Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience	09:32
wolfmoon	Will I be able to get the Ubuntu phone on a contract or is it cash-only?	09:33
VladimirVolkov	1	09:34
Keitaro	why after installation and after my login i only see the wallpaper and my mouse i can't select nothing there is nothing on the destop	09:35
bazhang	!phone \| wolfmoon	09:35
ubottu	wolfmoon: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch . Support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch	09:35
Keitaro	but i still can do ctrl alt F1	09:35
VladimirVolkov	Hello. I need someone help to give me web link on ubuntu forum where discussing about difference server and desktop version.	09:35
Wanderer-	Keitaro, have you tried startx ?	09:36
Ben64	VladimirVolkov: the difference is the gui really	09:36
wolfmoon	ubottu: thank you for the help!	09:36
Ben64	Wanderer-: startx isn't the right way to do anything on ubuntu	09:36
ubottu	wolfmoon: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)	09:36
bazhang	VladimirVolkov, ubuntuforums has a search item, try it	09:36
Wanderer-	Ben64, ive always solved my issues with that, including when i sometimes get locked out after switching users	09:37
VladimirVolkov	bazhang: thanks buddy! I thounght so too. The soft are the same in all distros.	09:37
Keitaro	Wanderer-, yes	09:37
Keitaro	there is a error	09:37
Wanderer-	are you sure you have installed ubuntu desktop?	09:38
Keitaro	when i do sudo startx in tty i come bacck in the ubuntu but with the same background wallpaper	09:39
Ben64	don't do startx	09:39
blackflow	especially not sudo startx :)	09:40
hateball	Hard to grasp for some, it seems	09:40
VladimirVolkov	bazhang: If I want to setup a desktop ubuntu with i3wm, can I do this task using ubuntu server image?	09:40
bazhang	Keitaro, startx is not the right way to do it	09:40
Keitaro	and my mouse is replace by a cross	09:40
Keitaro	oki	09:40
Keitaro	what shoud i do plz ?	09:40
bazhang	VladimirVolkov, or get the mini iso and build up	09:40
bazhang	!mini \| VladimirVolkov	09:41
ubottu	VladimirVolkov: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want. The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD	09:41
nagarjung	hi could anyone help me with the IRC channel for ubuntu mirrors?	09:41
VladimirVolkov	bazhang: It seems to do install process like archlinux or gentoo.	09:41
VladimirVolkov	ubottu: ok	09:42
ubottu	You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)	09:42
hateball	nagarjung: #ubuntu-mirrors	09:42
VladimirVolkov	!mini \| VladimirVolkov	09:42
ubottu	VladimirVolkov, please see my private message	09:42
jim	hi, apparantly the package ttf-mscorefonts-installer fails to download the font files,,, is this a known issue?	09:43
bazhang	jim is via the terminal	09:43
ducasse	VladimirVolkov: i'm running ubuntu with i3 and installed from the server image. works just fine.	09:43
bazhang	jim you need to agree to the eula for those	09:44
jim	does the package do that?	09:44
bazhang	tab over to ok and then return jim	09:44
VladimirVolkov	ducasse: ok. i'm regular slackware user, but for job perpose i need try out ubuntu.	09:45
blip-	Hi all, after rebooting my work PC - I'm getting resolution of 1000xsomething, reinstalled nvidia drivers but they dont seem to load. ubuntu drivers screen http://imgur.com/a/OjsbR nvidia-settings error http://termbin.com/59v3 'sudo lshw -C display' shows no driver in configuration http://termbin.com/y9ay lspci -nnk \| grep -iA3 vga http://termbin.com/8cya	09:45
jim	bazhang, it's not me... I'll get the person to come here	09:45
bazhang	thats what I had to do at least jim, but I get the full ubuntu restricted extras	09:45
VladimirVolkov	!systemd \| VladimirVolkov	09:45
ubottu	VladimirVolkov, please see my private message	09:45
VladimirVolkov	ubottu: 1	09:46
jim	bazhang, how does one agree to the eula?	09:46
bazhang	VladimirVolkov, please open a PM iwth the bot	09:46
bazhang	tab over to ok and hit return if in the terminal jim	09:46
jim	bazhang, you mean while installing the package?	09:48
nagarjung	thank hateball	09:48
nagarjung	thank you*	09:48
ducasse	jim: if he has missed the prompt, he should get it again if he runs dpkg-reconfigure on the package iirc	09:49
Rarrikins	05:42 < lieven> majest1c: when you flip the orientation, the integral changes sign. similar to int_a^b = - int_b^a	09:49
Rarrikins	05:42 < t0by> cheeseboy, this is ##math, surely there's people with actual degrees and people with publications, even, that are willing to check it out if you ditch your code for a second and we look at the actual solution	09:49
jim	let me find out... hang on	09:49
Rarrikins	05:43 < t0by> once we are sure of that we'll look at the code.	09:49
Rarrikins	05:43 < majest1c> lieven How would I know what sign it should have in the first place?	09:49
Rarrikins	Sorry.	09:49
VladimirVolkov	ubottu: !gnome \| VladimirVolkov	09:50
ubottu	VladimirVolkov, please see my private message	09:50
bazhang	VladimirVolkov, PM the bot Please	09:50
k1l	VladimirVolkov: please do that in a pm with the bot.	09:50
bazhang	VladimirVolkov, /msg ubottu gnome	09:51
contumax	hi, ubuntu 16.04 + mailcow - is it possible to change the directory where mails are stored?	09:51
rexwin_	what RAID level is used in bigger organizations?	09:51
bazhang	rexwin_, how could we know that	09:51
rexwin_	widely used?	09:52
bazhang	rexwin_, thats not an ubuntu support issue	09:52
bazhang	try ##linuc rexwin_	09:52
bazhang	also ##linux	09:53
jim	rexwin_, raid levels are chosen due to their characteristics and what use they would be put to... example, a database needs a lot of random access, and I think 10 is suitable for that, and 5 is not	09:53
ghost_	hello	09:54
Utsav_Chokshi	/join #kolibrios	09:56
Keitaro	someone knows how i can fixe my problem ?	10:00
Keitaro	i am stock after my login on ubuntu and see nothing ^^	10:00
Keitaro	thx in advance	10:00
Danawar	Keitaro: http://askubuntu.com/questions/477542/ubuntu-14-04-only-wallpaper-and-a-mouse-cursor-is-showing	10:02
Keitaro	thx Danawar i will check that	10:02
k1l	Keitaro: restart lightdm	10:03
k1l	dont use startx. make sure in that users home .Xauthority and others dont belong to root:root now but to user:user	10:03
kristian_on_linu	hi	10:04
kristian_on_linu	anyone else getting this stuff when updating: W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package python-cffi-backend-api-max ?	10:04
Keitaro	it said after i wrote restart lightdm fail to connect to upstar	10:05
sai_rongzhj	Someone knows better console font in tty other than terminus ?	10:05
k1l	Keitaro: what ubuntu is that?	10:05
Keitaro	the last one	10:07
Keitaro	16.04 i think	10:07
k1l	lsb_release -sd	10:07
k1l	that will tell you which version exactly	10:07
Keitaro	06.04LTS	10:08
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k1l	sudo systemctl restart lightdm	10:08
Craigwell	ok, so a recent update for 14.04 broke my broadcom wireless (surprise, surprise). It's using the STA driver. Anyone encounter this? I've tried remove/reinstall etc and nothing	10:09
Keitaro	k1l, done	10:09
Keitaro	i log in again ?	10:09
Danawar	Yes	10:09
k1l	yes. if that is still broken do it again and try the guest account and see if that works	10:10
Keitaro	still a full purple screen with only my white mouse	10:10
Craigwell	tried the stuff in here https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2130853 and no dice	10:10
Craigwell	BCM94322	10:11
x_XP	Hi guys, I wonder if I can get help here with setting up SSD to be use in MacBook Pro to run OsX using Ubuntu USB thumb drive.	10:15
k1l	if you want to run osx you might better ask the apple guys for that	10:15
Keitaro	k1l, it doesn't work still a perfect purple screen	10:16
k1l	Keitaro: ok, so what did you do before that happened?	10:16
Keitaro	but there us a flashy box that flash all the time saying there is a wi fi signal or something	10:16
Keitaro	hard to read ...	10:16
Danawar	Keitaro: I'd run sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop unity compizconfig-settings-manager upstart next but best check with the others	10:17
k1l	Keitaro: and the guest account didnt work?	10:17
Netek	I dont believe this. I just went and bought a new Laptop Dell Inspiron 5000 Series with corei7, 8GB RAM and all that. I just connected to the internet and the ethernet has a limit of 100Mbps.. WTF.... I have an Acer laptop which is about 5 years old and this has 1GBps ethernet -_- In other words this laptop cannot handle the top speeds of our internet connection -_-	10:17
Danawar	Keitaro: Also do you have an nvidia graphics card?	10:17
Netek	I thought 100Mbps ethernet speeds were outdated????	10:18
Craigwell	netek: Did you verify specs before purchase? Or ..before posting?	10:18
k1l	Netek: look at what exact card is in use and if that needs special handling on linux due to the manufacturerer not sticking to the standards	10:19
Craigwell	netek: Do you have a new cat 5e or cat 6 cable?	10:19
Netek	Craigwell no I didnt, as I assumed that these days all modern laptops came with 1GB as standard. I learnt something new -_-	10:19
Keitaro	Danawar, yes i have	10:19
Keitaro	GTX 950 M	10:19
Netek	Craigwell well I connected same wire to other laptop and I reach the full 300Mbps connection, I connect this one and I get 100Mbps	10:19
Netek	after looking at the dell website it states its 100Mbps	10:20
Netek	what a waste of 1200EUR	10:20
Craigwell	netek: funny if it has wireless AC and 100m ethernet haha	10:20
Netek	Craigwell :P	10:21
Netek	I do a wifi test	10:21
Netek	brb	10:21
Craigwell	http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/inspiron-15-5547-laptop/pd	10:21
anup	hello	10:21
Craigwell	netek: says 10/100 ethernet	10:21
Craigwell	haha	10:21
mcphail	Netek: this isn't a channel for chat about your purchase. Please keep this channel for Ubuntu support issues.	10:22
Craigwell	AC is an option, along with N	10:22
x_XP	<k1L> there is small problem Mac people told me that SSD is Fu***d but I manage to boot on Ubuntu USB than install Ubuntu 16.04 on this MBP SSD and run it	10:22
Danawar	Keitaro: This is what i am looking at maybe trying some things;	10:22
Danawar	Keitaro: http://askubuntu.com/questions/449845/problems-after-upgrading-to-14-04-only-background-and-pointer-after-login	10:22
x_XP	<k1l> Than I booted it back on USB Ubuntu drive, used gparted to formatted this SSD to HFS+ than tried to install Mavericks OS, but install or Mac disc utilities could not see this drive	10:23
k1l	x_XP: that is why you need the help of the apple guys. we cant tell you why apples os got that issues	10:23
x_XP	k1l thanks mate	10:24
Craigwell	x_XP: Sounds like it doesn't like Grub.	10:24
Netek	mcphail well I am using Ubuntu on the laptop and was at first wanting to check if it was hardware or software issues with ubuntu. Obiously now it is proven to be the hardware	10:24
Keitaro	Danawar, apt-get doesn't work it said can't resolve the name	10:25
Craigwell	x_XP: or HFS+. Try with EXT4	10:25
Keitaro	because i use wifi and i can't onfigure it	10:25
x_XP	Craigwell format it with EXT4?	10:25
ducasse	x_XP: that won't help you, os x can't be installed on ext4	10:26
Craigwell	x_XP: I would try that, sounds like install / mac disc don't like HFS+	10:26
k1l	Craigwell: that is nonsense. hfs+ is the apple filesystem	10:27
Danawar	Keitaro: I think you should be able to use the original install media a CD or USB stick to reinstall items like unity etc	10:27
x_XP	Craigwell but when ubuntu was running on it os x install disk did not see this drive and Ubuntu is EXT4 isn't it?	10:27
Danawar	Keitaro: Additionally if purging Ubuntu drivers that may have been downloaded Ubuntu should fall back.	10:28
Keitaro	Danawar, you mean that i reinstall ubuntu totally ?	10:28
k1l	x_XP: or aplle blacklists some ssds or hdds. please ask the apple guys. we cant help you since its not a ubuntu issue	10:28
k1l	<k1l> Keitaro: and the guest account didnt work?	10:28
Keitaro	because when i install i had to use nomodeset	10:28
Keitaro	k1l, same effect in guest account than in my account	10:29
Danawar	Keitaro: Not at all but you can install packages/libraries off the media if they have been removed accidently.	10:29
k1l	Keitaro: ok, so its an driver issue. can you boot an older kernel in grub?	10:29
Keitaro	no	10:29
jianu81	hi guys	10:29
Keitaro	i have only this one	10:29
jianu81	can i load ubuntu to the ram ?	10:29
x_XP	Craigwell:k1l: I was using this SSD on this MBP for 2 years then recently it apparently died but i can load and run UBUNTU from it ???	10:30
Keitaro	i just dl the last iso for a dualboot on my new computer	10:30
ducasse	x_XP: you're in the wrong channel, we cam't help you	10:30
Keitaro	notepad asus	10:30
k1l	Keitaro: so its a clean install?	10:30
Keitaro	yep	10:30
k1l	Keitaro: did you try nomodeset?	10:30
viktor133	jianu81, if you start the computer with ubuntu as OS it is loaded into the RAM...	10:30
Keitaro	yep	10:30
k1l	Keitaro: and?	10:31
jianu81	i meant	10:31
Keitaro	because my install didn't work i do nomodeset	10:31
jianu81	kinda like puppu linux	10:31
Keitaro	and i can install	10:31
jianu81	or parted magic	10:31
Keitaro	otherwise the install was freezing	10:31
k1l	Keitaro: keep in mind we only know what you tell us. if you dont tell us we need to guess. and guessing is always not a good base for support.	10:31
Craigwell	x_XP:k1l: Sorry, I was confusing with ZFS as I'm not an Apple boy	10:31
Keitaro	yes sorry*	10:31
k1l	Keitaro: then try it again to use nomodeset	10:31
viktor133	jianu81, you mean without installing it onto the harddrive?	10:32
Craigwell	I was thinking you used ZfS instead of EXT4 for the ubuntu partition and that install wouldn't see it for some reason	10:32
x_XP	Thank you all I got l lazy and give up on Ubuntu for MAC few years back now	10:32
k1l	jianu81: use the ubuntu usb?	10:32
Keitaro	nomodeset yes i can try	10:32
Craigwell	I was reaching a bit in an attempt to help shrug	10:32
jianu81	yeah	10:32
jianu81	but can i save the data ?	10:32
Keitaro	you mean try to do a clean install with nomodeset again ?	10:32
k1l	Keitaro: no	10:32
jianu81	on the usb ?	10:32
k1l	!nomodeset \| Keitaro try the one time solution explained here	10:32
ubottu	Keitaro try the one time solution explained here: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter	10:32
viktor133	jianu81: sure, but it won't work quite as well. other distro's might be more suitable for that	10:33
x_XP	Craigwell: what would be relevant Mac channel ?	10:33
jianu81	any suggestions for tht ?	10:33
jianu81	that ?	10:33
viktor133	jianu81: when you run it (ubuntu) for the first time it's like that	10:33
jianu81	parted magic worked	10:33
ducasse	!alis \| x_XP	10:33
ubottu	x_XP: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" . For more help or questions relating to alis, please join #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu or /msg alis list http	10:33
jianu81	but tharpup didn't	10:33
viktor133	jianu81: not familiar with tharpup	10:34
k1l	jianu81: the ubuntu live system loads totally to the ram. is that what you want?	10:34
jianu81	yeah	10:34
jianu81	i kinda wanted a portable arcade game machine	10:34
k1l	jianu81: then use a ubuntu usb and make that persistent	10:35
hateball	Keitaro: no need to reinstall, but you have to use nomodeset for your installed version as well uintil you add a proper driver	10:36
hateball	Keitaro: and if you want to add the latest working driver for your chipset from !ppa then here is a oneliner: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa && sudo apt update && sudo apt install nvidia-370	10:37
Keitaro	oki thx	10:38
Danawar	hateball: Problem is he has no internet :(	10:38
Danawar	so may have to lan it	10:38
hateball	Danawar: oh. that does indeed complicate things	10:38
Keitaro	i will try all that after my lunch thx	10:38
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hateball	Danawar, Keitaro : but should be able to download the needed packages from ppa, as well as dkms from official repos in case not installed	10:38
R13ose	I am getting this error: http://pastebin.com/1X7S0kwt in the Update Infromation - KDE Daemon, how do I fix this?	10:40
olmari	I'll come here as I'm running 16.10 and don't want to make any type of "official" bug report yet...	10:41
hateball	!ubuntu+1 \| olmari	10:41
ubottu	olmari: Yakkety Yak is the codename for Ubuntu 16.10 - Support only in #ubuntu+1	10:41
olmari	allrighty :D	10:41
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Na3iL	R13ose, what version of Ubuntu?	10:44
R13ose	Na3iL: Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS	10:45
Na3iL	Try this : sudo apt-get install --reinstall ttf-mscorefonts-installer	10:45
k1l	R13ose: install that package ttf-mscorefonts-installer manually with apt. you need to check the EULA manually to make that work.	10:45
R13ose	k1l: I did install this, and I thought I did check the EULA. Even so, why do I need this package and do I use this?	10:46
k1l	its the microsoft font package. and some programs (like wine) need that	10:46
R13ose	Na3iL: why do I need to reinstall this. I think I did that once before, and the error message still came up.	10:46
R13ose	k1l: as far as I know wine is not installed.	10:47
Afdla	which program is responsible for changing active monitors when docking/undocking laptop?	10:48
k1l	apt-cache rdepends ttf-mscorefonts-installer	10:48
R13ose	k1l: http://pastebin.com/BDkLa5T0	10:49
k1l	R13ose: libreoffice is one of those packages for example	10:56
R13ose	k1l: yes but I use libreoffice as my main office suite. Are you saying all of these use that package?	10:57
blip-	hi, nvidia drivers got messed up after reboot. I can no longer use my work desktop (1000xsomething resolution). can anyone walk through fixing this with me ? spent few hours already	10:57
k1l	R13ose: for compatibility reasons with MS office, yes	10:58
R13ose	k1l: that is fine with me but how do I get the error to go away?	10:58
k1l	R13ose: sorry, need to go afk for work. maybe other can help	10:58
R13ose	k1l: no worries	10:59
hateball	blip-: what drivers are you using? what type of gpu setup? hybrid or single? custom xorg? etc	10:59
k1l	R13ose: run the install on that package again and make sure to check the eula. that is a common issue with that package	10:59
hmigeek	blip-: login into cli (Ctrl + Alt + F1) and run lspci -k checkout your graphic kernel driver in use	11:00
R13ose	k1l and Na3iL: I did the command "sudo apt-get install --reinstall ttf-mscorefonts-installer" and this reinstalled. The only thing I noticed was this "mscorefonts-eula license has already been accepted"	11:01
Phryq	is there a way to install Ubuntu onto a USB disk from Ubuntu without first downloading an ISO?	11:05
ducasse	R13ose: there have been others in her today with problems downloading those fonts, could be a problem with the server	11:06
ducasse	*in here	11:06
R13ose	ducasse: was that person, me?	11:06
ducasse	R13ose: don't remember, but it was several hours ago	11:07
ducasse	R13ose: anyway, i've had the same problem myself before, and it worked fine the next day	11:08
R13ose	ducasse: this has been going on for awhile.	11:09
ducasse	R13ose: just a thought.	11:10
R13ose	ducasse: I know but this error is not going away.	11:10
Na3iL	You solved your problem R13ose ?	11:11
R13ose	Na3iL: nope, did you read what I wrote above?	11:11
ducasse	R13ose: if you run /usr/lib/msttcorefonts/update-ms-fonts, does it complete successfully?	11:11
Na3iL	Nope, sorry I was AFK	11:11
Na3iL	oh, I get it	11:12
R13ose	ducasse: when I run that command, I get this: http://pastebin.com/XB59zqhD	11:13
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ducasse	R13ose: ok, so it can't actually find the font-files, but thinks they are installed. you could try a purge and reinstall, other than that i'm not sure.	11:15
fredson``	hi everybody. any ideas how to squeeze another 36M off my /boot-partition for an 14.04.-> 16.04. update?	11:16
ducasse	fredson``: remove a kernel you don't need?	11:19
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smong	I did that	11:21
smong	and deleted all kernels	11:21
smong	:(	11:21
R13ose	ducasse: I did the command "sudo apt-get install --reinstall ttf-mscorefonts-installer" and this reinstalled. The only thing I noticed was this "mscorefonts-eula license has already been accepted"	11:22
ducasse	R13ose: just a reinstall is different from a purge and install, it should try to download the fonts again if you do that.	11:24
R13ose	ducasse: what command do I use for that?	11:25
ducasse	R13ose: 'sudo apt-get purge ttf-mscorefonts-installer && sudo apt-get install ttf-mscorefonts-installer'	11:25
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kikero	Hello! I have Ubuntu 16 LTS running on my laptop. Recently, my Internet started working very slow.	11:28
kikero	The speed is inconsistent, sometimes it works fine, sometimes it doesn't.	11:28
kikero	I've looked into the Chrome Developer Tools, I get a few 200 requests and then lots of them pending for ~ 10 seconds. This happens with quite a few websites, but not with all (youtube works fine, for example). It also happens when loading pages from my localhost.	11:29
blip-	hmigeek, hateball: thanks, i got it fixed just by disabling UEFI secure boot option in the bios. funny since i never touched any bios or driver settings in the last 6 months	11:29
BluesKaj	Howdy all	11:30
ikonia	kikero: is this wired or wifi	11:30
ikonia	and by not working do you mean "no internet at all"	11:31
kikero	ikonia: wifi. no, internet is working, but some requests are pending for a really long period of time.	11:31
R13ose	ducasse: I did that and the only thing I notice is many of these happen: http://pastebin.com/x4wbAV5d	11:32
ikonia	is it always the same requests, or random ones	11:32
kikero	if I refresh my localhost, I get 10 out of 59 requests processed immediately with the 200 status, and the rest are pending for ~ 10 seconds, after which they get downloaded. does this have something to do with dns?	11:33
ducasse	R13ose: that looks like a bug to me, but i though this was fixed. have you done an 'sudo apt-get update' recently?	11:34
R13ose	ducasse: yes I believe so	11:35
ducasse	R13ose: in that case i think you should report it. do you know how to do that?	11:35
R13ose	ducasse: is there already a bug report for this?	11:36
ducasse	R13ose: there was a bug for apt on this, i'm pretty sure	11:36
R13ose	ducasse: can you link me to that? I can add a comment to that if I figure out how.	11:37
asar	guy help me out	11:37
amnix	Hi. I just bought a new SSD. I installed ubuntu on it but it's not booting off it for some reason. Can someone please help?	11:38
asar	i always get this error. even if i fix, it shows up the next day E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/download.opensuse.org_repositories_home:_Horst3180_xUbuntu%5f16.04_Packages	11:39
ducasse	R13ose: try this one https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/msttcorefonts/+bug/1575408	11:39
ubottu	Launchpad bug 1575408 in msttcorefonts (Ubuntu) "pkgAcquire::Run warnings ("Can't drop privileges for downloading...") during font-file downloads" [Medium,Confirmed]	11:39
fredson	mmmpf ... dark magic kicked me out ... so bother u again.	11:39
fredson	any ideas on how to free 36M on /boot for an update? no lvm of course.	11:39
dezmoi	fredson: is it safe to say that you currently only have one linux image loaded?	11:41
R13ose	ducasse: done	11:42
melio	i got a lot of help here last night that helped me sleep, thank you #ubuntu	11:42
R13ose	ducasse: is there anything else I can do or have to wait for this bug to get solved?	11:42
ducasse	R13ose: then all you can do is hope it gets some attention. the more affected users, the sooner it gets fixed.	11:42
R13ose	ducasse: thanks.	11:43
melio	R13ose, my printer doesnt work in 16.04.1 properly without a hack that has issues with breaking apt/apt-get functionality	11:43
R13ose	melio: hacking oh no	11:43
SuperCat	47.78	11:44
amnix	Anyone?	11:44
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SuperCat	quiit	11:44
melio	yeah throwing i386 arch stuff to function on a 64bit arch os	11:44
melio	that kinda driver stuff is really unstable	11:44
dezmoi	amnix: Need more info	11:45
R13ose	ducasse: I am going to go and wait on this bug getting fixed if possible.	11:45
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amnix	dezmoi: Can I show you the output of any command for more info?	11:45
melio	and with new patches it broke it and caused gui software lockups when trying to install. and console apt/apt-get had unresolvable dependencies, the lockups caused lock files too. i had to reboot just to remove dependant files linked to tons of stuff lsb installed to try to employ the hack to make the printer stuff work.	11:46
VladimirVolkov	Hey yo, should I compile custom kernel in ubuntu server when i want alsa support?	11:46
dezmoi	amnix: are you using GRUB?	11:46
fredson	dezmoi: mmh, dpkg --list \| grep linux-image \| wc -l is giving me 9 ; does that mean i can purge old ones, doesn't it ?	11:46
melio	ducasse, being patient with new releases is why it is safe to wait a while before upgrading from 14.04 to 16.04.1 which i was reluctant about	11:46
dezmoi	fredson: Yes. purge what youre not using	11:47
amnix	dezmoi: yes i went with the normal ubuntu installation. didn't change anything	11:47
ducasse	melio: 14.04 is supported for 3 more years, there's no hurry if you don't need newer software.	11:48
dezmoi	fredson: uname -r	11:48
dezmoi	fredson: Keep whatever is listed there	11:49
mcphail	VladimirVolkov: why do you want a custom kernel? Generally, Ubuntu kernels are already built with a ton of modules compiled	11:49
dezmoi	fredson: plus the extras and maybe the one before that one as a back up	11:49
dezmoi	amnix: I am trying to help but don't know where to start. You've updated your boot order, right?	11:50
ducasse	VladimirVolkov: alsa works fine with the standard kernels	11:51
amnix	dezmoi: yes	11:51
amnix	dezmoi: these are some messages that show up when i boot from a live usb http://paste.ubuntu.com/23088685/	11:51
fredson	dezmoi: destruction sequence in progress :--------> :D	11:51
multifractal	i installed smuxi irc client with software centre. how can I find the command to start it from terminal? it's not `smuxi` I tried that.	11:52
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dezmoi	amnix: No dual boot?	11:53
amnix	dezmoi: no its a new ssd. i just installed ubuntu on it. and its not booting.	11:53
multifractal	and the process name associated with smuxi is `mono-boehm` according to system monitor	11:53
ikonia	kikero: refresh your localhost ? you mean refresh the browser ?	11:53
kikero	ikonia: yes, making my browser load a page served by my local apache2 installation.	11:54
ikonia	kikero: local apache 2	11:55
ikonia	kikero: you said this was wifi problems/interent problems	11:55
kikero	yes	11:55
ikonia	now it's a local apache2 install ??	11:55
kikero	dude, listen to me.	11:55
ikonia	I am listening to you, you've just changed the problem totally	11:55
dezmoi	multifractal: use "$ irc"	11:56
kikero	I explained that it's the same behaviour for both pages from the Internet, loaded through wifi and pages that I am loading from the server I have installed on my machine.	11:56
dezmoi	multifractal: I am pretty sure thats the command	11:56
kikero	Thing is, it's not "http://localhost", it's "http://mylocalfakedomain.com".	11:56
kikero	i.e. local domain name	11:57
ikonia	so ?	11:57
ikonia	what is the resolver for your fake domain name ?	11:57
multifractal	dezmoi no it says 'The program 'irc' can be found in the following packages:* epic4* epic5* ircii Try: sudo apt-get install <selected package>'	11:57
kikero	I added the domain in the sites-available file and in /etc/hosts	11:57
VladimirVolkov	ducasse: no. i have ubuntu server + i3wm+icecat+pulseaudio+alsa-utils But no sound from youtube)	11:58
ikonia	kikero: ao I'm failing to see what this is proving	11:58
kikero	kikero: well, if I go to youtube, which is a website I use a lot, it works.	11:58
VladimirVolkov	ducasse: May be there is method to trace or strace to enable sound	11:59
ducasse	VladimirVolkov: the problem is not that the kernel lacks alsa support, because it has that	11:59
kikero	I'm downloading with 4MB/s. Thing is, it sometimes takes a lot before processing a request. In other situations, it downloads it instantly.	11:59
lordcirth	multifractal, apt-file list smuxi \| grep bin	11:59
kikero	ikonia: so I'm guessing that it may have something to do with DNS fetching (?)	11:59
ikonia	kikero: but you're not using dns on your internal test, as you're using /etc/hosts	12:00
VladimirVolkov	ducasse: Has ubuntu server alsa support in its kernel? I have installed server version not desktop	12:00
statusfailed	Where does the "last" command get the time a user logged out ?	12:00
ducasse	VladimirVolkov: same kernel.	12:00
statusfailed	I don't see it in the utmp file format	12:00
VladimirVolkov	there is no zcat /proc/config.gz	12:00
VladimirVolkov	ducasse: there is no zcat /proc/config.gz	12:00
ikonia	statusfailed: wtmp I think	12:01
ducasse	VladimirVolkov: 'ls /boot/config*'	12:01
VladimirVolkov	ducasse: OK. thanks.	12:01
statusfailed	ikonia: but they follow the same format	12:02
ducasse	VladimirVolkov: check with pavucontrol that the right output is active and not muted	12:02
statusfailed	and there is no "exit time" information in the utmp/wtmp format	12:02
statusfailed	afaict	12:02
multifractal	lordcirth: it came up with http://pastebin.com/dsyNqse2	12:03
ikonia	maybe not then,	12:03
k1l	VladimirVolkov: yes, ubuntu supports alsa. but uses pulseaudio as standard on most desktop seutps	12:03
fredson	dezmoi: apt-get purging a couple of linux-image-* did it. thanks.	12:05
kikero	ikonia: ok. do you have any idea what could be, then? or what steps I could take to figure this out?	12:06
ikonia	kikero: tcpdump the intereface and wait for it to go slow	12:10
ikonia	kikero: but them when you do "localhost" you're using a physcial interface anyway	12:10
wsky	do any of you guys use indicator-multiload?	12:10
wsky	i got this issue that besides the graphs it shows text cpu use percentage to the right of the graphs	12:10
wsky	i want to turn it off	12:10
wsky	but i see no such option in the menu	12:11
wsky	ok i actually got it	12:12
melio	ducasse, that's a very good suggestion - i haven't really configured and installed much usable software due to problems - but 3 years seems like a good reasonable timeframe to let 16.04.1 mature with bug fixes	12:14
Blueer	hey. is it possible to restrict the access for non root users for "/proc/self/mounts"? i don't want that other users can see the harddisks and mounts. hidepid=2 for proc doesn't helped.	12:15
melio	downloading and installing 14's latest image	12:16
melio	be back later. thank you #ubuntu for very logical resolutions to problems - expert advice here is appreciated very much.	12:16
hateball	blip-: that secure boot thing with nvidia is a bug, it should be fixed with the latest drivers found in the PPA iirc	12:17
dezmoi	Blueer: chmod	12:17
hateball	blip-: since they now have KMS support	12:17
leeyaa	hello	12:17
dezmoi	hi	12:17
leeyaa	what is the recommended cluster resources manager nowadays on Ubuntu	12:17
leeyaa	i know that heartbeat is deprecated	12:18
leeyaa	so i guess corosync ?	12:18
Blueer	dezmoi: chmod: changing permissions of ‘/proc/self/mounts’: Operation not permitted -> other permission changes in proc work	12:18
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avail_	say i wanted to ..... borrow...	12:20
avail_	a neighbours.....	12:20
avail_	password...	12:20
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dezmoi	Blueer: /proc/self/mounts is generated from the kernel. I thought it was just a link to a file.	12:25
kni	Hi, running 16.04 here with 16GB ram. My system tends to use swap space even when there is still free memory available (according to free/htop etc). Any idea what might cause this? i tend to blame VMware workstation	12:26
hateball	kni: you can try adjusting vm.swappiness	12:26
blackflow	kni: how much swap? some of it is normal, even if you have plenty of free ram	12:26
SwedeMike	kni: that's normal behaviour. If there is memory that hasn't been used for a very long time, it might get swapped out to instead use it for block cache.	12:26
SCollins	kni: Whats its typical RAM usage?	12:27
kni	hateball: i did already set it for tests to 10 and later 1	12:27
statusfailed	ikonia: you're probably not interested, but it turns out logins/logouts are stored as different lines in utmp format, if you find a login, you have to search ahead for the corresponding logout	12:27
statusfailed	that's how "last" works	12:27
slystone	Hi!	12:28
kni	SwedeMike: 16GM ram and 16GB swap is configured. right now, after uptime of 6 hours it is using 2GB swap already	12:28
slystone	I want to make a script print in the Ubuntu panel.	12:28
blackflow	kni: changing swappiness will not page in already paged out stuff. did you reboot between tests?	12:28
slystone	http://www.webupd8.org/2011/05/how-to-display-network-upload-download.html ← I've found this ppa.	12:28
kni	blackflow: i dis- and reanbled swap while playing with swapiness to make it work	12:28
blackflow	kni: also, do you have transient, short-lived processes that consume much more RAM than you think watching htop between those runs?	12:29
slystone	It does the job, but maybe this function is already included in Ubuntu 16.04. What do you think?	12:29
kni	blackflow: hard to answer, my main usage is having 2 vm's running and 2 browsers on the host itself - plus some terminals	12:29
SwedeMike	kni: that's a lot, but it depends on the applications you're running.	12:30
SwedeMike	kni: if some memory isn't used by anything, it might get swapped out.	12:30
kni	SwedeMike: a lot applications or a lot swap? ;)	12:31
hateball	slystone: I dont run Unity myself but it seems there should be an applet for something so simple	12:31
SwedeMike	kni: having 2G swapped out is a lot, especially after 6 hours. But it all depends on what you're running on the machine. It's not unheard of.	12:31
kni	according to free i do have >2GB available ram right now, but only 0,2 GB free - still 2GB is swapped. Just to give you some numbers	12:31
hateball	slystone: Or you could use conky perhaps	12:32
SwedeMike	kni: please pastebin the output from free	12:32
blackflow	kni: maybe this would help: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-which-process-is-using-swap/	12:32
kni	blackflow: tried that already - was not helping but i gonna paste that as well	12:32
kni	gimme some time ...system is slow ;)	12:32
blackflow	kni: didn't help? didn't give you a picture of which procs might be using lots of swap?	12:33
kni	regarding free output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23088793/	12:33
slystone	hateball: I thought of conky. But I'd gladly use something that already exists.	12:34
SwedeMike	kni: that's a lot of buff/cache used. I don't see why it would swap that agressively.	12:34
slystone	I just want to print the result of simple python script in the Ubuntu panel.	12:34
kni	regarding who is swapping: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23088801/	12:35
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blackflow	huh. would VMs be listed there? remind me, there _is_ a process per VM running, correct?	12:37
kni	yes for each vm	12:38
kni	i am somehow completly unsure so far what might cause the swapping at all	12:38
kni	besides that i am for sure running a big footprint in general, but the system isn't that bad either	12:39
chl_	hey, does anyone know if isc-dhcp reserve a static defined host, if said host's lease has expired?	12:40
ikonia	the lease won't matter if it has a satic definition	12:40
chl_	ikonia: so its discarded from a dynamic range/pool?	12:41
blackflow	kni: well, some swap usage is a good thing. it becomes a problem if the system starts paging in and out more often	12:42
chl_	say I have 192.168.0.2 - 192.168.0.254, and 192.168.0.3 is a static/fixed host, will 192.168.0.3 be discarded from the pool?	12:42
blackflow	chl_: I don't think so. If you want to mix dynamic and static like that, better define a dynamic-only range for dhcpd	12:44
kni	blackflow: i do feel lags - or in other words short freezes	12:44
kni	so this is far beyond good ;)	12:44
chl_	blackflow: thank you, I was expecting that too	12:44
blackflow	kni: vmstat will tell you if what si/so (swap in / swap out) is during those laggy times	12:45
slystone	Aight, got my answer (notify-send).	12:45
kni	blackflow: so you would recommend running 'watch vmstat' for a while to monitor the output?	12:46
blackflow	kni: don't need watch with vmstat, just give it a delay, eg. `vstat 5`	12:47
blackflow	*vmstat	12:47
kni	blackflow: i seem not to be that used to vmstat usage - should it report pids?	12:47
blackflow	nope	12:47
kni	right now i do see a single line with general swap free buff values similar to free	12:48
kni	and free is again using vmstat if i remember right	12:48
blackflow	kni: ?	12:49
kni	isnt free using vmstat in the background to catch its informations?	12:50
kni	blackflow: seems like i have to read a bit about vmstat ;)	12:50
blackflow	no I think it uses /proc/memstat	12:50
v0lksman	hello all! where does awstats put the HTML files of reports when using the awstats package?	12:51
blackflow	*meminfo sorry	12:51
aluskonik	i have some problem with nvidia drivers and steam, can somebody help figure out it	12:51
mmeth	Hi. I installed windows and lost grub. On which partition should I install grub to?	13:00
mmeth	can I install it to the ubuntu partition and then add that to windows boot menu/BCD?	13:01
SwedeMike	mmeth: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot	13:01
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mmeth	thanks SwedeMike but this doesn't touch my question	13:06
SwedeMike	mmeth: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#Reinstalling_GRUB_2 install on MBR.	13:07
badp	hi guys, I've been having screen flickers on my external DisplayPort monitor ever since I upgraded to 16.04. Nothing relevant shows up on dmesg or anywhere in /var/log. I noticed it happens most often when using function keys with terminator :/	13:10
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Afdla	badp: I have exactly the same problem	13:13
Afdla	I've noticed it happens usually when I switch focus to other program like pressing alt+tab	13:13
badp	Afdla: Intel GPU?	13:13
Afdla	I don't know which one this laptop has	13:13
Afdla	ah its intel	13:13
Afdla	i5	13:13
badp	it's getting difficult to restrain myself from embedding my fist into this monitor :/	13:14
RickyB98	i'm trying to configure vsftpd so that whenever i file is uploaded, its perms are 664, while whenever a directory is created, its perms are 775.. how can i do that?	13:14
badp	(I replaced monitor and cables, and I still have it)	13:14
Afdla	I seem to get the flickers when using CTRL/ALT/SHIFT or just switching focus to another program	13:14
Afdla	and it's random	13:14
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Afdla	sometimes happens, sometimes not	13:14
Afdla	can't reproduce consistently	13:15
badp	yeah	13:15
Afdla	it only happens on my primary monitor though, not the secondary	13:15
badp	is it connected by displayport?	13:15
Afdla	yes	13:16
badp	yeah, I've changed monitors and cables, but it's still always the displayport monitor	13:16
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Afdla	hmm have you tried dvi/hdmi then?	13:16
badp	I have another monitor on DVI	13:17
Afdla	me too	13:17
badp	but I guess I could just go HDMI instead of DP	13:17
Afdla	I only have VGA+DVI+DP on my laptop dock :/	13:18
Afdla	I guess I could use vga	13:18
kamar	hi there	13:18
kamar	anyone online?	13:18
abu_shawarib	Hi	13:19
hateball	!help \| kamar	13:19
ubottu	kamar: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience	13:19
kamar	i cant setup wifi-hotspot in ubuntu 14.04LTS. It says AP mode not supported but im able to setup in windows with same device	13:20
kamar	what to do?	13:20
dezmoi	kamar: are you able to manually change the modes on your wifi card?	13:21
guest7860	check here niggers: http://goatse.info	13:21
blip-	test	13:22
blip-	hateball, thanks re "that secure boot thing with nvidia is a bug, it should be fixed with the latest drivers found in the PPA iirc. since they now have KMS support". I thought it was the design of secure boot itself that was poor	13:23
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kamar	@dezmoi....have tried with "iwconfig wlan0 mode master" and it throws error "Error for wireless request "Set Mode" (8B06) : SET failed on device wlan0 ; Invalid argument."	13:25
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badp	Afdla: and I just found out I only have VGA/DVI/DP as monitor inputs	13:26
acresearch	people i despiratly need help, I lost a file in my desktop, i need it back. can anyone help me? I think i deleted it in my trash but it is not there.	13:27
Speed09	acresearch, is your drive in ext4? ?	13:28
acresearch	Speed09: yes	13:28
k1l	how did you delete it?	13:29
Speed09	look at this thread: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/122305/undelete-a-just-deleted-file-on-ext4-with-extundelete	13:29
leo-ren	good morninrg :)	13:30
abu_shawarib_	Anyone having this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1542733	13:30
ubottu	Launchpad bug 1542733 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "Connect to Hidden Wi-Fi Network, "Connect" grayed out" [High,Confirmed]	13:30
Speed09	good morning leo-ren !	13:30
acresearch	k1l: my desktop was flooded with directories when i accedently tried to download a database, i deleted them with my directory, now when i search the trash i cannot find my directory (i have a lot of directories from the database but not mine)	13:30
leo-ren	what happened with php5?	13:31
d0lph1n98	where can i get precompiled old linux kernel? the initrd and vmlinuz	13:31
VladimirVolkov	what is the differs between ubuntu and debian?	13:31
Speed09	VladimirVolkov, Ubuntu is a Debian Based distro.	13:32
k1l	VladimirVolkov: different release tiemframes, different handling of packages and PPAs and 3rd party repos and non free stuff.	13:32
acresearch	Speed09: how can i use extundelete (from the link you sent me) to restore a file i deleted from my desktop?	13:32
k1l	acresearch: are you sure its not in the trash? there should not be a reason why this was handled differently	13:33
Speed09	acresearch, extundelete /dev/YourDrive --restore-file path/to/deleted/file	13:33
acresearch	Speed09: my drive? i deleted it from my computer's desktop	13:34
Speed09	acresearch, si check what is the name of your drive where your os is running	13:34
acresearch	Speed09: how?	13:35
streulma	Package temperature too high cpu throttling, bug between kernel and ASUS BIOS	13:35
streulma	I have this on Ubuntu all the time	13:35
Speed09	acresearch, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-command-list-mounted-devices-in-terminal/	13:36
acresearch	Speed09: /dev/sda2 ext4 106G 11G 90G 11% /	13:37
acresearch	is this this one Speed09 ?	13:37
acresearch	Speed09: is this my root directory?	13:38
Speed09	acresearch, idk, it's your computer, not mine	13:39
acresearch	people i really despiratly need help, I lost a file in my desktop, i need it back. can anyone help me? I think i deleted it in my trash but it is not there.	13:39
k1l	<k1l> acresearch: are you sure its not in the trash? there should not be a reason why this was handled differently	13:40
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_KaLiF	Hi..!	13:40
k1l	acresearch: there is no reason why it should not be in the trash like every other folder/file you deleted from the desktop. so either you deleted it manually (like holding shift for full delete) or its either on the deskstop still or in the trash	13:41
acresearch	k1l: i think because i deleted 1060 files and it is one of them	13:41
k1l	acresearch: then look carefully into the trash	13:41
acresearch	i searched for it, but it is not there, let me explain what happened	13:42
acresearch	i tried to download a database into a folder in my desktop using terminal, but i accedently executed the command outside the folder to the MASSIVE amount fo folders in the database got downloaded into the desktop. i deleted them all then realised i have an important work file there. all the foldered have 2 letters except my folder, i searched for it, it is not there	13:43
acresearch	k1l: i searched several time, i restarted my computer and searched again, it is not in the trash	13:43
k1l	how did you delete those files from the desktop? with the terminal?	13:44
acresearch	no with fn backspace, all these files are in the trash except my file	13:44
k1l	does "ls -al ~/Desktop" list that file?	13:45
hateball	blip-: well one can have opinions about secure boot regardless :p	13:47
acresearch	k1l: https://da.gd/7Be1	13:47
k1l	acresearch: does "ls -al ~/.local/share/Trash/" list that file?	13:48
k1l	if its not there you can look at "ls -al ~/.local/share/Trash/files"	13:49
acresearch	k1l: no	13:50
acresearch	k1l: it is not there either	13:50
acresearch	k1l: is there a limit to how many files the trash can store?	13:51
k1l	no	13:51
logical	hi ppl, is it possible to install calendar from gnome 3 (like fedora) on ubuntu-mate?	13:54
Mitchell92	Hello. I have a notebook I bought for class. I have TLP installed to hopefully maximize battery life. Is this widely recommended or is there another software package available that will help me get even more out of the battery?	13:54
acresearch	k1l: any ideas?	13:54
k1l	acresearch: so you moved/deleted that file manually differently?	13:54
acresearch	i selected all and pressed fn backspace to move to trash	13:55
zetheroo	I can do 'sudo nano /home/user/file.txt' with no issue, but if I try with 'sudo cat << EOF > /home/user/test.txt' I get a 'Permission Denied' reply	13:56
k1l	zetheroo: the sudo doesnt work with pipes	13:56
acresearch	k1l: i selected all and pressed fn backspace to move to trash	13:57
akik	zetheroo: use "sudo tee /home/user/test.txt" to create the file	13:57
zetheroo	k1l: ah ok	13:57
k1l	zetheroo: and sudo should not be used at all in users home	13:57
zetheroo	akik: ok, will give that a shot	13:57
acresearch	k1l: any ideas?	14:00
acresearch	k1l: please help?	14:04
vigh_	guys, a noob question, I've installed pip, then installed a package using it (called udemy-dl), and whenever I try to run udemy-dl, I get command not found, how can I fix that?	14:04
k1l	acresearch: well. logically that file should be either in that trash folders or still on the desktop	14:04
akik	zetheroo: use "sudo -u username" if you need the file's ownership defined	14:06
vicatcu	Hi I'm running a distribution upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 and I foolishly / accidentally launched chrome part way through installing	14:06
acresearch	k1l: but it is neither, this happened to me before but in an illerevant file, this time it is a really impirtant file	14:06
acresearch	k1l: isn;t there a way to try and recover it if somehow it got deleted	14:07
zetheroo	akik: well I need to be able to inject text into the file as well	14:07
acresearch	?	14:07
vicatcu	I have a black screen with done text now and no hard disk activity	14:07
k1l	acresearch: is there a .Trash-0 folder in that users home?	14:08
vicatcu	Is it safe to restart the computer, or what should I do?	14:08
acresearch	k1l: no	14:09
logical	hi ppl, is it possible to install calendar from gnome 3 (like fedora) on ubuntu-mate?	14:10
k1l	acresearch: i dont know then what you did there. what desktop is it?	14:10
ruind	Every time I login I have to run 'ifup eth1' is there a better way of making sure the interface is up upon login besides a custom script in /etc/init.d? http://pastebin.com/LKjfXN9Q	14:10
vicatcu	I'm using IRC from my phone... Any help appreciated	14:10
k1l	acresearch: is there any .Trash* folder in that users home?	14:12
vicatcu	Rebooting	14:12
k1l	acresearch: or is it at /home/.Trash*	14:13
acresearch	k1l: no, no trash folder in the home direcotry	14:14
zetheroo	is there any way to insert text into a file with sudo?	14:14
christian95	Hello how do you fix screen tearing in xubuntu? when I enter cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log \| grep Tear it says there that tear free is Disabled	14:15
acresearch	k1l: is it hidden?	14:15
vicatcu	System I'd running in low graphics mode dialogue pops up and I can't get to the desktop, crap	14:15
genii	zetheroo: If you just want to append the file with new text: echo "whatever it is" \| sudo tee -a /filepath/filename	14:15
k1l	acrocity: yes. folder and files with . starting are hidden.	14:16
vicatcu	Please can side kind soul help me get back to a desktop	14:16
acresearch	k1l: no i meant, is it supposed to be a hidden folder? i do not find it under normal nor hidden folders	14:17
zetheroo	genii: will that work with inserting multiple lines of text?	14:17
fr4ncky	hi everybody i have a bug with nautilus. the name of my files havn't numbers	14:18
k1l	acresearch: i dont know then. last chance will be extundelete	14:19
genii	zetheroo: Sure, one line at a time... But if you want to actually edit the file, do something like: sudo nano /filepath/filename instead, add to it, then save and close	14:19
vicatcu	How do I get to a command line if unity won't start?	14:21
abu_shawarib	ctrl+alt+t	14:21
zetheroo	genii: ah cool - thanks!	14:21
abu_shawarib	if that don't work use ctrl+alt+f1	14:22
ctjctj	Hello. I'm looking for documentation on how to mount an encrypted filesystem on boot. Situation: User set up a full disk encrypted ubuntu. But the drive was slow. He installed an SSD and we installed 16.04.01 on that SSD. Now we want to mount the HDD else where and set up some loop back mounts to that HDD. To mount the HDD we are currently logging in, running cryptsetup luksOpen(???) parmams. vgchange -yaa; mount	14:23
ctjctj	/dev/ubuntu-vg/root /local;	14:23
ctjctj	I would like to automate all of that on boot.	14:23
acresearch	k1l: how can i use extundelete?	14:25
acresearch	k1l: in my situation?	14:25
k1l	extundelete is the really last chance. it tries to find the pieces that are not overwritten already on the filesystem	14:26
k1l	but i really suggest you try to search your system for that file	14:26
vicatcu	Running sudo dpkg --configure -a in an attempt to recover from interrupted distribution upgrade	14:27
ctjctj	acresearch have you tried "locate"	14:27
acresearch	k1l: i don't know hwere else to search	14:27
acresearch	ctjctj: how can i use locate?	14:27
k1l	acresearch: did you use the search?	14:27
ctjctj	acresearch, locate partial_file_name	14:27
acresearch	ctjctj: what if it is a directory?	14:28
ctjctj	It will tell you	14:28
ctjctj	I use it all the time so I don't remember if it is installed by default. Worse case you'll need to do an "update-db" command.	14:28
vicatcu	Stuff is happening at least...	14:28
ctjctj	correction: updatedb	14:29
acresearch	ctjctj: i have locate	14:29
vicatcu	Assuming I come through this intact, how do I know distribution upgrade succeeded?	14:30
acresearch	ctjctj: there is some development...!!! i might have located one of the files in the directory	14:30
acresearch	ctjctj: k1l let me explain to you what i have found, i found a text file, which is the most important file for me, it is located in /home/acresearch/ownCloud/Analysis (but this directory does not have this file because it is a cloud storage directory and i removed this file from there earlier today and the server was updated).	14:33
ctjctj	acresearch, go to the web interface for your ownCloud server. Go to the "undelete" option.	14:34
ctjctj	Owncloud keeps backups of deleted files until it needs to purge for disk space reasons. So there is a likely hood that your file is still there.	14:35
vicatcu	Rebooting again after running dpkg -configure -a ...	14:35
vicatcu	I have unity again!	14:36
ctjctj	vicatcu, my condolences.	14:36
acresearch	ctjctj: YOU ARE A FREAKING GENIUS !!!! I GOT IT BACK !!!!!!!!!	14:36
vicatcu	How do I know if my distribution update is done?	14:36
vicatcu	ctjctj har har	14:37
abu_shawarib	hehe congrats	14:37
christian95	Hi intel tear free is disabled.. How to enable it? Im using xubuntu 16.04 64bit. my gpu is Intel integrated gpu	14:37
christian95	anyine help please?	14:38
abu_shawarib	christian95: use compositor: http://askubuntu.com/questions/568113/tearing-in-xubuntu-14-04	14:39
ctjctj	vicatcu, when unity first came out I hated it. Now I just dislike it.	14:40
xoxoxo	hi! anyone can help me make bootable usb flash drive with ubuntu 16.04 from command line? i currently use debian 8 jessie	14:40
ctjctj	acrocity, you are welcome	14:40
christian95	abu_shawarib_: greetings my friend.. how do you those commands?	14:41
jonah	Hi can anyone help as I can't open Inkscape on ubuntu 16.04 and I get this error: inkscape: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgiomm-2.4.so.1: undefined symbol: _ZN4Glib11VariantTypeD1Ev	14:41
abu_shawarib	christian95: what commands? I think Window Manager Settings is somewhere in the settings. I haven't ever used xubuntu so I'm guessing.	14:42
liava_	Need help	14:43
xoxoxo	abu_shawarib, can you help me?	14:43
_adb	xoxoxo: you can use dd: something like sudo dd if=/path/to/downloaded/ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdX, where X is the letter that thekernel has assigned your drive	14:43
fajruddin	hi	14:43
liava_	I cAnt log on to my Ubuntu . It goes to black screen then login over and ive F	14:43
liava_	And over	14:43
christian95	abu_shawarib_:how do you add the lines in the config file in the link you sent me?	14:43
xoxoxo	/dev/sdb1 is usb of=/dev/sdb or /dev/sdb1	14:43
xoxoxo	?	14:44
xoxoxo	i r	14:44
xoxoxo	presume is of=/dev/sdb	14:44
_adb	xoxoxo: verify your drive letter by plugging it in and checking the output of dmesg. you should see something that indicates which drive letter is in use. of should be /dev/sdb, without the partition number	14:44
christian95	abu_shawarib_: I dont want to use compton... I just want to enable tear free	14:45
_adb	xoxoxo: warning: this WILL destroy any existing data on that usb disk. VERIFY that it is the correct disk and any data on it is backed up before running the command	14:45
liava_	ANYONE HELP MY UBUNTU KEEPS GOIIGN TO LOGIN OVER AND OVER AND OVER . Anything I can do ?	14:46
adasd	hi guys	14:46
adasd	help to configuring my computer... I have SSHD 8GB SSD and 500GB HD how install ubuntu?	14:47
xoxoxo	http://paste.ubuntu.com/23089197/	14:48
abu_shawarib	christian95: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf	14:48
adasd	cause only 8GB to / ?	14:48
Guest14559	8GB is plenty	14:48
Guest14559	for /	14:48
christian95	abu_shawarib_: Il try my friend	14:49
abu_shawarib	christian95: put this in the file and logout - login :http://paste.ubuntu.com/23089198/	14:50
adasd	Guest14559: humm	14:50
vicatcu	so now I'm in Ubuntu 16.04	14:51
vicatcu	I don't get the open in new tab option when I right click in a terminal?	14:51
adasd	8GB ind SSD, /home 496GB and swap 4GB in the HDD? right?	14:51
Guest14559	for instance for ubuntu server 1GB disk space is recommended	14:51
adasd	/ 8GB ind SSD, /home 496GB and swap 4GB in the HDD? right?	14:52
Guest14559	right	14:52
adasd	Guest14559: ubuntu desktop amd64 only 8gb?	14:52
christian95	abu_shawarib_: /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf does not exist... and when I copy/paste the text you sent it says no such file or directory	14:52
Guest14559	for ubuntu desktop 5GB is recommended	14:53
Guest14559	8GB should be more than enough	14:53
adasd	Guest14559: /var/cache?	14:53
Guest14559	var should go to another partition	14:53
Guest14559	not the same as /	14:54
Guest14559	due big log files and stuff	14:54
xoxoxo	_adb, thats all?	14:54
xoxoxo	sudo dd if=/home/xoxoxo/Downloads/ubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso of=/dev/sdb	14:55
xoxoxo	reboot ?	14:55
Hebejebees	Has anyone here used ZNC Bouncer with Ubuntu?	14:55
abu_shawarib	christian95: it's just a config file it doesn't need to exist. create it and paste the the text into it	14:55
christian95	abu_shawarib_: how?	14:56
_adb	xoxoxo: yeah, that's it. if you want to be absolutely sure about the drive letter, you can omit the "grep" and just run dmesg. the output for a drive that's registered as sdb2 will look something like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23089214/ you can see pretty clearly: "a usb drive was plugged in, and now i have it as sdb"	14:56
abu_shawarib	christian95: do sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf and then write inside it and save it.	14:57
adasd	Guest14559: so... / 8GB SSD and /var 40gb /home 456gb swap 4gb in HDD?	14:57
poseidon	Any suggestions for a good laptop that isn't bulky with old peripherals?	14:58
Guest14559	is alright	14:58
poseidon	I see some laptops I like but they alwasy have things like CD drives, AVI ports, etc.	14:58
murphy	is there a way to install wifi drivers from source with apt?	14:59
poseidon	All I need are usb, hdmi, and a headphone jack	14:59
christian95	abu_shawarib_: Error writing /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf: No such file or directory	14:59
abu_shawarib	christian95: copy the http://paste.ubuntu.com/23089198/ text in that file	14:59
_adb	poseidon: plenty of netbooks out there, but not really on topic for this channel	14:59
adasd	Guest14559: thanks a lot bro, i try here! :D	15:00
Guest14559	no problem brah	15:00
Guest14559	good luck	15:00
poseidon	_adb: any suggested channels?	15:00
murphy	i did it manually but it doesnt show up under the wifi manager, i have to do everything through cli	15:01
poseidon	also I don't really want a "netbook." I want a 15" screen with good specs	15:01
beantaxi	Hola. 14.04 here. Just noticed the supported openssl is 1.0.1f (Jan 14). I believes covers heartbleed, but have other folks upgraded or are you sticking with 1.0.1f?	15:01
poseidon	https://system76.com/laptops have great ubuntu laptops, but they're all so bulky	15:01
tdannecy	poseidon: Buy a Mac?	15:03
Guest14559	16.04 uses 1.0.2g	15:03
abu_shawarib	christian95: what is the name of the graphical text editor in xubuntu? leafpad? thunar?	15:03
poseidon	tdannecy: I can't run ubuntu on a mac	15:04
poseidon	can I?	15:04
Guest14559	yes you can	15:04
adasd	poseidon: yes u can	15:04
streulma	yes you can	15:04
Guest14559	macs are glorified PCs	15:04
adasd	mac intel?	15:04
streulma	I have installed Ubuntu on an old iMac 2006 :-)	15:04
Guest14559	they run intel you know	15:04
streulma	he runs Ubuntu Mate without nvidia 3d	15:05
streulma	because video card stuck on OSX	15:05
Guest14559	exactly	15:05
poseidon	Yeah, I'm not sure if I want to play the premium for a mac. I just want all the bloatware I don't need	15:05
streulma	the person says, my Mac is stuck, can't use :(	15:06
streulma	I say, I can fix :-)	15:06
_adb	poseidon: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&N=100006740%20600004343%20600004344 lots of choices. figuring out what specs are good, what hardware is extraneous, and which prices are reasonable is up to you. again, however, this isn't really on topic...	15:07
xoxoxo	_adb, here is output of dmesg http://paste.ubuntu.com/23089248/ ( after i did if dd ) and this is what dd command did http://paste.ubuntu.com/23089250/	15:08
adasd	poseidon: macbook model?	15:08
_adb	xoxoxo: that's some normal looking output for dmesg, but some very strange output for your second paste	15:10
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xoxoxo	so? what is the idea?	15:11
xoxoxo	what should i do?	15:11
_adb	xoxoxo: i'm not sure. how'd you get that? that's output from an ls, not dd.	15:11
xoxoxo	yes ls	15:12
xoxoxo	ls inside external hdd	15:12
xoxoxo	sdb	15:12
ph88_	can someone help setup an ssh tunnel ?	15:14
xoxoxo	_adb,	15:14
xoxoxo	what do i do? something went wrong	15:15
tdannecy	xoxoxo: From your second pastebin, I think you have a mismatched text encoding setting somewhere along the line.	15:15
xoxoxo	are same names	15:15
xoxoxo	in dolphin	15:16
OerHeks	so you DD a partition, looks like a swap partition :-D	15:16
ph88_	i have a server to connect to and a destination tunnel address what do i do with those ?	15:19
OerHeks	ph88_, ssh is the tunnel, no?	15:19
ph88_	don't know	15:19
Netek	hmm, can somebody tell me about locale on Ubuntu. Whenever I attempt to upgrade or do any other form of apt work it complains of locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory	15:20
Netek	I have just followed about 5 guides online on solving this and I cannot seem to get this issue to go	15:20
Netek	output of locale gives me the following: http://pastebin.com/ANVTRsia	15:21
joelio	Netek: do a sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales	15:21
Netek	joelio I did	15:21
Netek	I also did locale-gen	15:21
Netek	I tried many different things and I dont know why I cannot get rid of this	15:21
joelio	LC_ALL should be set to c or something	15:23
pathhfinder	hllo	15:23
OerHeks	sudo locale-gen en_GB en_GB.UTF-8 && sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales	15:23
joelio	Netek: or potentially just unset, the env var is listed but no value set	15:23
logical	hi ppl, is it possible to install calendar from gnome 3 (like fedora) on ubuntu-mate?	15:23
Netek	joelio the only thing I didnt try was adding LC_ALL="mt_MT.UTF8" into /etc/environment and then rebooting	15:24
joelio	hang on, mine's not	15:25
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joelio	try what OerHeks said..	15:25
Netek	that is the wrong locale though, it needs to be mt, I try it but change en_GB to mt_MT	15:25
joelio	oh, sure	15:25
joelio	I'm not familiar with that locale, just check for it's charset (UTF-8 perhaps?)	15:26
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Netek	yes it is utf-8	15:26
joelio	doing the reconfigure asks you thoough, which is strange	15:26
aak12	quit	15:27
aak12	exit	15:27
aak12	close	15:27
Netek	hrrmm ok, I did the command that OerHeks said, I no longer get the cannot set LC_ALL but running locale still shows LANGUAGE= and LC_ALL= they are both blank	15:29
Netek	is this something I should worry about?	15:29
mcphail	Netek: no	15:29
OerHeks	Netek, did you run updates ? maybe you get some packages you need	15:29
Netek	ok, OerHeks yes I just did another apt update and apt upgrade	15:30
Netek	no errors	15:30
OerHeks	when i change locales in the gui it asks for updates	15:30
OerHeks	oke	15:30
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Netek	this is on a remote server	15:30
MacroMan	How can I configure init.d to specify certain arguments when starting a daemon?	15:31
MacroMan	Specifically, exim4 starts with -bd by default, which I'd like to remove.	15:31
MacroMan	Can I literally just edit the exim file under init.d or will that be overwritten?	15:32
mcphail	Netek: $LANGUAGE is for a list of your primary and secondary preference languages. If you want to use one language for most things and don't worry what language will be used if it is not available, keep it blank. $LC_ALL is used to override the other LC_ variables temporarily	15:34
addonis1990	anyone is using pidgin here, the chat app? I managed to build it on ubuntu but sounds are not working	15:34
Netek	mcphail ok, thanks for the explanation.	15:34
Pici	addonis1990: why build it yourself? its in the package repositories.	15:35
Pici	!info pidgin	15:36
ubottu	pidgin (source: pidgin): graphical multi-protocol instant messaging client for X. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.10.12-0ubuntu5.1 (xenial), package size 516 kB, installed size 1909 kB	15:36
addonis1990	Pici, that's what's mentioned on their website	15:37
christian95	abu_shawaraib_: my friend you still there? I restarted my system... still having screen tearing	15:38
Pici	addonis1990: their website says "We do not provide pre-built packages for Linux and Unix distributions. We recommend installing Pidgin using your operating system's standard package management tool."	15:39
stochastix	Is ubuntu-studio an offshoot of ubuntu just like kubuntu?	15:39
stochastix	As in, I can talk about it in here?	15:40
addonis1990	Pici, you are right ! Should I remove it and reinstall it again to get sounds to work ?	15:40
dax	stochastix: yes	15:40
Pici	addonis1990: I'd give that a shot.	15:40
stochastix	dax: cool, thanks. Are there repos i can enable to get a newer version of blender?	15:41
stochastix	Like v 2.7 something	15:41
OerHeks	!info blender	15:42
ubottu	blender (source: blender): Very fast and versatile 3D modeller/renderer. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.76.b+dfsg0-3build1 (xenial), package size 21043 kB, installed size 70491 kB	15:42
christian95	hi people how to enable tear free? Im using intel integrated gpu in xubuntu 16.04.. I hate screen tearing	15:42
OerHeks	universe, so it is the latest i guess	15:42
abu_shawarib	christian95: what is the name of the graphical text editor in xubuntu? leafpad? thunar? sublime?	15:42
christian95	abu_shawarib_: mousepad	15:43
mcphail	stochastix: blender is fairly self-contained and doesn't really need "installed". If you want the latest version, just download it and run it from the unpacked tarball. But my recollection is the current Ubuntu version is fairly up to date	15:43
stochastix	mcphail: Does ubuntu-studio use the same repos as ubuntu?	15:44
stochastix	It is basically the same thing with some preinstalled packages right?	15:44
liava_	Reaver channels only go up to 14?	15:44
mcphail	stochastix: I think it does, IIRC. Been a while since I used -studio	15:44
stochastix	im downloadinf it right now. Im asking for a freind who just started using linux.	15:44
abu_shawarib	christian95: try: sudo mousepad /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf. or just sudo mousepad	15:45
mcphail	stochastix: I'm sure there's a page on the u-studio website explaining the (minor) differences. As I recall, there's a tweak or 2 to enable low-latency audio	15:45
stochastix	mcphail: he said the version in there is 2.6.8 or something, I bet he just needs to do an upgrade after installing ubuntu-studio	15:45
christian95	abu_shawarib_: still cannot save my friend.. maybe the config file should be created first	15:46
stochastix	mcphail: yea, realtime kernel is probably one differnce	15:46
abu_shawarib	oh crap	15:46
abu_shawarib	christian95: i forgot that the folder don't exist	15:46
mcphail	stochastix: no - there hasn't been a realtime kernel patch for ages	15:47
mcphail	stochastix: lowlatency, yes. Realtime - not for a long time	15:47
christian95	abu_shawarib_: how to create the folder?	15:47
Melio	can someone clarify versions for me, I notice 14.04 LTS has multiple versions - Trusty, Xenial, Wily, vivid, Utopic - I know Trust/Xenial are the only supported till 2019 versions - which Trusty is 3.13 kernel, and Xenial is 4.4 kernel - what should i do here. one or the other. newer kernel or older.	15:47
OerHeks	Melio, both got security patches, 3.x is a LTS kernel	15:48
nacc	Melio: 14.04 LTS is Trusty	15:48
abu_shawarib	christian95: see if this folder exsist: sudo mousepad /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf	15:48
nacc	Melio: did you mean the kernel (hwe) stacks?	15:48
Melio	yes, which kernel, newer or older version	15:48
mcphail	Melio: use the newer kernel unless it gives you problems	15:49
stochastix	mcphail: I see now there is a ubuntustudio room too, oops, :) search didnt show that a min ago.	15:49
Melio	mcphail, would xenial be the same base as 16.04?	15:49
nacc	Melio: iirc, 14.04 only supports 14.04.5 now	15:49
Melio	nacc, i had a problem with an epson driver in 16.04 using xenial 4.4 kernel	15:49
Melio	so i wanna roll back to 14.04.x to recover my printer capability	15:50
mcphail	Melio: you might have the same problem, then	15:50
Melio	then stick with trusty?	15:50
nacc	Melio: then you might want the stock 14.04 level	15:50
nacc	Melio: no HWE stack	15:50
christian95	abu_shawarib_: my friend	15:50
Melio	nacc, is there a network installer for it? is it LTS?	15:50
Melio	i ran it 14.04.x with updates until it started flipping out on grub and java got jacked up	15:50
abu_shawarib	christian95: ?	15:51
nacc	Melio: is there a network installer for what? 14.04.1 would be what you want, iirc	15:51
Melio	nacc, mcphail based on this bug : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lsb/+bug/1536353	15:51
ubottu	Launchpad bug 1536353 in lsb "[Regression] Epson's printer driver packages cannot be installed as lsb package is not available anymore" [Undecided,New]	15:51
Melio	which version would you use?	15:51
Melio	or would regression effect 14.04 too	15:51
Melio	affect	15:52
nacc	Melio: it says the bug is fixed in 16.04 already?	15:52
Melio	afflict	15:52
Melio	:P	15:52
OerHeks	Melio, in that bugreport is your solution too, we told you a few hours ago ..	15:52
Melio	it's not	15:52
Melio	it's hacked to work	15:52
OerHeks	sudo apt-get install printer-driver-escpr seems to be your solution	15:52
Melio	OerHeks, it's not a solution! i had to wipe it out	15:52
christian95	abu_shawarib_: I restarted my system, still having screen tearing	15:52
Melio	OerHeks, doesnt printer-driver-escpr stll depend on i386 arch stuff?	15:52
Melio	if i try it, I'm going to have another 3 hours of diagnosing it and filing bugs on this	15:53
Melio	I guess anything worth doing is worth taking time to experiment	15:53
OerHeks	!info printer-driver-escpr	15:53
ubottu	printer-driver-escpr (source: epson-inkjet-printer-escpr): printer driver for Epson Inkjet that use ESC/P-R. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6.3-2 (xenial), package size 250 kB, installed size 448 kB	15:53
Melio	http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/text/printer-driver-escpr	15:54
Melio	i think it's fine. i'll try it	15:54
Melio	but i dono if i'll have scanning. thats the next thing	15:54
mcphail	Melio: from a quick scan of that bug report, i can't see that has anything to do with the kernel	15:54
christian95	abu_shawarib_: Hey my friend Im back just restarted my system.. so sorry	15:54
Melio	mcphail, it's about it being regression it was installed on my old os and worked fine	15:56
Melio	deprecated or regression not sure the differnce in those two terms. i'm not a opensource coder	15:56
mcphail	Melio: yes - it is a regression but not from the kernel	15:56
nacc	Melio: mcphail's point is it has nothing to with the kernel level as you mentioned earlier	15:57
Melio	ok	15:57
bumblefuzz	hi, I'm trying to install ubuntu without swap space	15:57
bumblefuzz	I'm currently booted into the USB drive	15:57
bumblefuzz	and I have the installer open but I'm not sure how to partition the drive	15:57
abu_shawarib	christian95: can you do: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log \| grep Tear	15:58
bumblefuzz	can someone help me partition it without a swap partition?	15:58
Melio	printing a test page	15:58
akik	bumblefuzz: just create the root partition / then(?)	15:58
bumblefuzz	I've been reading up on it but have found some fairly complex stuff about ReadonlyRoot	15:58
* Melio has to learn to read bug report comments		15:59
bumblefuzz	a normal install has a lot of partitions	15:59
bumblefuzz	and I want to use LVM	15:59
bumblefuzz	so, just a single root partition?	16:00
akik	bumblefuzz: it's enough	16:00
Melio	OerHeks, thank you sir. you are a time saver	16:01
Melio	i would buy you lunch but all i can do is pay respect forward	16:01
OerHeks	Melio, have fun!	16:02
Melio	scanner and printer work perfectly (at least so far)	16:02
christian95	abu_shawarib_: hey my friend	16:03
Melio	i expect it will be fine. but it's actually printing and scanning better then the proprietary solution	16:03
Melio	scanner program stock w/ the distribution finds that printer instantly and scans	16:03
christian95	hello how to make the configuration file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf	16:05
christian95	xubuntu is tearing like hell how to enable tear free in intel gpu please ?	16:07
alkisg	christian95: try asking in #xubuntu, they know which window manager they use etc	16:08
ActionParsnip	christian95: what is the output of: lsb_release -c	16:08
christian95	alksig_: it takes forever for them to reply so I went here	16:08
christian95	ActionParsnip_: Codename:xenial	16:09
ActionParsnip	christian95: and when do you see the tearing ?	16:09
christian95	ActionParsnip_: When playing videos in vlc and that youtube video ccalled screen teearing test I want to eliminate screen tearing my friend.. I dont want to use compton...	16:10
alkisg	christian95: for example, in ubuntu mate, I have tearing with the default marco, but I don't have tearing when I run mate-tweak and enable marco --no-composite. But I've no idea which window manager xubuntu uses, that's why I suggested to ask there...	16:11
ActionParsnip	christian95: if you run: sudo lshw -C display do you see an Nvidia GPU and an Intel GPU, or just a GPU?	16:11
christian95	alksig_: xfwm4	16:11
ActionParsnip	christian95: * just an Intel GPU	16:11
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christian95	ActionParsnip_: Im using Intel	16:11
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ActionParsnip	christian95: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23089591/	16:13
alkisg	christian95: yup, I've no idea about that window manager, if it's compositing or not, if it has issues like marco/metacity do, how to disable compositing there etc...	16:14
christian95	ActionParsnip_: my text editor is mousepad sir\	16:14
alkisg	Note that if you're trying to edit a file in xorg.conf.d, you'd need to create the dir first	16:14
christian95	alksig_: how??	16:14
alkisg	christian95: in my experience, tearfree didn't help	16:15
ActionParsnip	christian95: thats fine too. You may want to make a cheeky symlink to make your life easier	16:15
alkisg	You can try it with sudo mousepad /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/90-tearfree.conf	16:15
christian95	alksig_: no I ean how do you create the dir? I have tried sudo mkdir... gives me errors	16:16
alkisg	The /usr dir I mentioned already exists	16:16
christian95	alksig tried that too	16:16
ActionParsnip	christian95: sudo mkdir /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d; sudo mousepad /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/90-tearfree.conf ect etc	16:16
alkisg	christian95, ActionParsnip, the directory /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d is surely there, it exists	16:17
alkisg	Many preinstalled packages provide it	16:17
alkisg	$ dpkg -S /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/	16:17
alkisg	xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu, xserver-xorg-input-wacom, xserver-xorg-input-vmmouse, xserver-xorg-input-synaptics, xserver-xorg-input-evdev, xserver-xorg-core: /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d	16:17
alkisg	christian95: sudo mousepad /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/90-tearfree.conf	16:17
alkisg	But as I said, it didn't help with metacity and marco. And, compiz on the other hand, doesn't have that issue.	16:18
christian95	thanks to ActionParsnip and alksig for your support... I will now reboot the computer and see if their help works.. I jhope it does thanks you people in this irc channel	16:18
ActionParsnip	alkisg: doesnt hurt to try and add it, you'll just get a warning	16:19
alkisg	Sure, just to make sure he wasn't doing other things like "I have tried sudo mkdir... gives me errors"	16:19
ActionParsnip	alkisg: oh, absolutely :)	16:19
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abu_shawarib	this chat does't make any sound when someone mention me	16:22
partyline	hi there i have problem with my audio	16:22
partyline	just stop working	16:22
alkisg	abu_shawarib: which irc client are you using?	16:23
Melio	i'm trying to access an external usb harddrive. and it's not showing up here's my paste of dmesg and tail, and lsusb http://pastebin.com/Du8RiSqG	16:24
abu_shawarib	hmm i think it doesn't work when my name have _ in the last	16:24
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abu_shawarib	i'm just using web	16:24
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alkisg	Melio: one possibility is that the port doesn't have enough power for the harddrive, do you happen to have an externally powered usb hub, so that you try connecting it via that instead?	16:25
ActionParsnip	partyline: try: killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.config/pulse* ~/.pulse* wait 10 seconds then reboot	16:26
stochastix	What is xenial? Is that the name of 16.04 ?	16:26
nacc	stochastix: yes, the codename	16:27
stochastix	ok thanks	16:27
stochastix	So if i enable, proposed repos, that is about as new as i can get on any packages right?	16:27
ActionParsnip	!xenial	16:27
ubottu	Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus) is the current release of Ubuntu. Download at http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Read the release notes at http://ubottu.com/y/xenial	16:27
nacc	ActionParsnip: fyi, `pulseaudio -k` is preferred over `killall pulseaudio` iirc (more graceful, possibly)	16:27
partyline	rm: cannot remove '/home/partyline/.pulse*': No such file or directory	16:27
ActionParsnip	nacc: will use that in future. Thanks	16:28
stochastix	I wondering what the newest version of Blender is that i can possibly get as a package through the repos	16:28
nacc	ActionParsnip: although in both cases, i wonder if it will just restart right away (i'd need to check)	16:28
ActionParsnip	partyline: thats fine, you'll have one or the other. The command covers both	16:28
nacc	stochastix: in 16.04?	16:28
Melio	wtf file system is "Microsoft storage spaces"	16:28
alkisg	stochastix: http://packages.ubuntu.com/blender ==> sorted by ubuntu version	16:28
partyline	rebootnow	16:28
genii	!info blender	16:28
ActionParsnip	nacc: it does but in the small amount of times its dead, the files are free	16:28
ubottu	blender (source: blender): Very fast and versatile 3D modeller/renderer. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.76.b+dfsg0-3build1 (xenial), package size 21043 kB, installed size 70491 kB	16:28
stochastix	alkisg: ohh, nice, thanks	16:28
nacc	ActionParsnip: ah sure :)	16:28
xoxoxo	thank you _adb	16:28
Melio	http://pastebin.com/gfG8cVwu	16:29
genii	stochastix: Bot indicates current version included is 2.76	16:29
Melio	I dont think linux can access this drive, cause it's not compatible with linux's ability to read it	16:29
ActionParsnip	partyline: give the system a kick, see if its ok then	16:29
Melio	i guess that's better than mounting it and showing me a drive i can't access	16:29
Melio	hmm. i guess that's a choice i would like to make	16:29
partyline	ActionParsnip, thanks dude audio start work	16:30
partyline	with aut reboot	16:30
stochastix	genii: looks like yakkety has 2.77	16:30
stochastix	genii: is yakkety a newer release, or is that in testing?	16:30
genii	stochastix: Yakkety is the development version of the next Ubuntu	16:30
nacc	stochastix: yakkety = 16.10	16:31
stochastix	genii: ok, so development yakkety is even more testing than xenial-proposed i take it.	16:31
nacc	stochastix: two totally different things	16:31
nacc	stochastix: yakkety is a different distribution/release	16:31
stochastix	ok, im used to rolling releases, I have to asjust my brain	16:31
nacc	stochastix: xenial-proposed is pending updates (typically for testing purposes for bugs, etc.) for xenial	16:31
stochastix	nacc: I see	16:32
genii	stochastix: For a later Blender, I use this PPA, which is well-maintained: https://launchpad.net/~thomas-schiex/+archive/ubuntu/blender	16:32
damolima	smbclient works, but nautilus doesn't show any devices in "Windows networks". How can I fix this?	16:32
stochastix	nacc: going to yakkety would not be advised for someone who is new to Linux, like my frind right? :)	16:32
ActionParsnip	partyline: if its working ten no need	16:32
nacc	stochastix: no, it would not be.	16:32
nacc	stochastix: it's not yet released	16:32
abu_shawarib	Guys can you see if this affect you? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1542733	16:33
ubottu	Launchpad bug 1542733 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "Connect to Hidden Wi-Fi Network, "Connect" grayed out" [High,Confirmed]	16:33
ActionParsnip	partyline: you just reset the settings for pulse to defaults. Its a good place to start if sound suddenly stops working	16:33
stochastix	genii: ahh, thanks for that. A third party repo will fit the bill.	16:33
MonkeyDust	ActionParsnip long time no see	16:33
stochastix	what does PPA stand for?	16:34
abu_shawarib	personal package archive	16:34
stochastix	ah, ok nice/	16:34
ActionParsnip	MonkeyDust: yeah man, been busy	16:34
stochastix	I know that is"risky" but i am guessing there is a list of trusted people with PPAs?	16:34
abu_shawarib	Ther	16:35
abu_shawarib	There isn't	16:35
mcphail	stochastix: there is no need for a PPA for blender at all. Just download and run from the site. Why mess up your package management?	16:35
stochastix	oh ok, I just thought maybe there was a good way to find popular PPAs	16:36
stochastix	mcphail: you are probably right, or just stick with 2.76 really.	16:36
ActionParsnip	stochastix: I use duckduckgo they have a !ppa bang :)	16:36
mcphail	stochastix: the blender creators work hard to keep it self-contained. Bless them for that	16:37
ActionParsnip	stochastix: all PPAs are equally risky as they are outside of the official repositories	16:37
stochastix	mcphail: though the installed versions are more integrated with ubuntu, the GPU and packages like ffmpeg and stuff	16:37
* alkisg would argue that the ones maintained by the debian/ubuntu maintainers for the same packages, are a bit more safe than others... :)		16:37
mcphail	stochastix: I have half a dozen version of blender on my hard drive. The Ubuntu native package does not offer anything the downloads don't	16:38
stochastix	mcphail: ok, thanks for that info.	16:38
mcphail	stochastix: getting GPU rendering is hairy whether your on native or not	16:38
mcphail	*you're	16:38
abu_shawarib	anyone checked that bug?	16:41
nrml1	anyone seen this before? W: Invalid 'Date' entry in Release file /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/pkg.duosecurity.com_Ubuntu_dists_trusty_Release	16:43
nrml1	16.04.1 when running apt-get update	16:43
cortexman	i'm having trouble using apt-get - it keeps hanging on ubuntu and other repos https://gist.github.com/brianmingus/5958a7341a4a8b7d08752478fd3be580	16:43
ActionParsnip	nrml1: try: wget https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8850924/fixpackage; chmod +x ./fixpackage; sudo ./fixpackage	16:45
nacc	nrml1: fwiw, it seems like the repository you are using is for trusty, not for xenial (based upon the release file name)	16:46
blackflow	so many kittens die whenever someone (wget or curl) \| sudo	16:47
ActionParsnip	blackflow: the link is clickable and can be checked before running	16:47
nrml1	yeah I realize that, it was after I did a release upgrade	16:47
blackflow	and that methodology and approach should be advised instead.	16:47
h3ll	hello everyone	16:47
aryell	hi	16:47
ElectroMotive	howdy	16:48
* h3ll how are you mates?		16:48
nrml1	yeah if you just copy paste from an irc channel without checking the code then you kind of deserve whatever happens	16:48
blackflow	people get kickbanned here if they suggest rm -rf (root) (even if doesn't do anything nowadays), this is not much different.	16:48
ActionParsnip	blackflow: its just the commands from here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PackageManagerTroubleshootingProcedure in a script for ease of use	16:48
ActionParsnip	blackflow: If you check, I'm also an Ubuntu member so adds a little credibility	16:49
blackflow	I know, I'm just saying we should teach people to always check first.	16:49
ActionParsnip	oh absolutely	16:49
nrml1	a disclaimer heh	16:49
nrml1	although I stand by what I said	16:50
avail_	does reaver only check 14 channels then repeat?	16:51
Hideme	Migrated to 16.04, upon login, the desktop doesn't load while using a 4.x kernel. If I switch to a 3.x kernel everything works. Any idea how to fix this?	17:00
Netek	am I right in understanding that if I want to have a desktop connected to a printer and network running ubuntu to act as the printer server (all other computers on the network to print through the desktop) I need to use cups?	17:01
xubuntu-fayir	hi	17:04
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xubuntu-fayir	hello world	17:04
ActionParsnip	Netek: you can use cups or samba if you like	17:04
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Netek	ActionParsnip ok, I need something that is rather easy to setup. I will look at them both and see, thanks	17:05
ActionParsnip	Netek: lots of guides on YouTube	17:06
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_0xbadc0de	sudo apt-get install sublime	17:22
_0xbadc0de	kinda didn't work	17:22
nacc	!info sublime xenial	17:22
ubottu	Package sublime does not exist in xenial	17:22
nacc	_0xbadc0de: --^	17:22
ActionParsnip	!find sublime	17:23
ubottu	Found: libsublime-dev, libsublime8	17:23
_0xbadc0de	what text editor would you advise to read code in this junk of OS	17:23
ActionParsnip	_0xbadc0de: what is the output of: lsb_release -c	17:23
ActionParsnip	_0xbadc0de: use less....	17:23
nacc	_0xbadc0de: vim, emacs, less...	17:23
nacc	_0xbadc0de: there's no 'advice' there, it's personal preference	17:24
_0xbadc0de	one that can do php code highlighting and that can change background colors and stuff	17:24
_0xbadc0de	have styles essentially	17:24
ActionParsnip	_0xbadc0de: what is the output of: lsb_release -c please	17:24
_0xbadc0de	I am pretty gay when it turns out to read code	17:24
_0xbadc0de	codename: trusty	17:25
ActionParsnip	_0xbadc0de: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/sublime-text-2; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install sublime-text	17:25
Netek	sublime 2?	17:26
Netek	it should be sublime 3 and download it from their website, they have the Ubuntu installer...	17:26
ActionParsnip	_0xbadc0de: or for beta builds: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/sublime-text-3; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install sublime-text-installer	17:26
ActionParsnip	Netek: why should it be?	17:26
ActionParsnip	Netek: the PPA says version 3 is beta. Aka unstable	17:27
Netek	ActionParsnip why it should be 3? I thought for improvements, updates and so on.	17:27
Netek	the PPA maybe but sublime 3 is on their website as the full version I think	17:27
Netek	let me double check -_-	17:27
Netek	ok my bad :o It is BETA	17:27
ActionParsnip	Netek: depends if you want stability or not. Newer and Alpha isn't always better	17:27
Netek	<--- ignore this fool	17:27
idzireit	yesterday I upgraded from ubuntu 14.04 to 16 andn ow I can not get the android sdk to show up	17:29
avail_	anyone help me with a reaver question? pm	17:29
jwitk0	Hey All, If I have a server with two SSDs (and no other disks) is it at all possible to get these disks into a software RAID0 configuration? Standard methods of course complain that my /dev/sda is in use	17:30
ActionParsnip	jwitk0: you'll need to do anything like that in LiveCD / USB desktop. Be sure your backups are up to date before you start playing	17:31
jwitk0	Thanks ActionParsnip	17:31
idzireit	am I in the right channel for asking how to fix my android sdk	17:33
ActionParsnip	idzireit: if its under Ubuntu, then yes	17:33
idzireit	upgraded from 14 to 16 andn ow ubuntu can not find it	17:34
idzireit	tried to redownload it and reinstall but says I already have	17:34
MonkeyDust	idzireit is that a ppa?	17:34
idzireit	no directly from android sdk website monkey	17:35
refj	After a recent upgrade to 14.04.5 arptables stopped working. When running "arptables -Ln" the following message is returned: "arptables: Table does not exist (do you need to insmod?)". lsmod reveals that arptables_filter is loaded.	17:35
refj	Google searches are fruitless.	17:35
seednode	Trees past the age of bearing seeds are fruitless	17:35
seednode	Sorry, this isn't an OT channel, misclicked	17:36
logical	Hi, is it possible to play youtube in rhythmbox only sound?	17:36
idzireit	refj was that statement directed towards me ?	17:37
refj	idzireit: No, sorry. Actually I just found out that -Ln is the reason it doesn't work. Silly me.	17:38
refj	Have a nice evening.	17:38
elisa87	http://serverfault.com/questions/799126/no-space-left-on-device-home-ubuntu-aws do you know how to fix this issue?	17:45
zodiac19	Probably a redundant question. but is there a way to boost the speed of ubuntu on lower end computers like a lenovo thinkpad t500 or a t510?	17:47
seednode	zodiac19, does the machine have an SSD right now? Or 2-4GB of RAM? If not, add SSD, or add RAM	17:47
seednode	If you meant software-wise	17:47
baizon	zodiac19: use a lightweight DE	17:47
seednode	There are various tweaks that can help, but most of them come with various drawbacks	17:47
seednode	i.e. lighter-weight programs might have fewer features or less eyecandy	17:47
zodiac19	Okay, still rather new to linux, whats a DE?	17:48
baizon	zodiac19: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desktop_environment	17:48
seednode	A desktop environment; it's the collection of applications that comes with most distros, including the window manager, default programs, etc	17:48
zodiac19	I have room to improve the ram, so that is a step forward. researching DE	17:49
jda2000	After installing Ubuntu 16.04 the system does not respond to 'avahi-browse -rat' from other machines. How do I get 16.04 to respond like 14.04 did?	17:50
Moppy	Hello. Is there some way of scheduling tasks randomly with cron? I'm using a dirty hack of making the task sleep for a random time on launch but that sort of sucks.	17:51
logical	Hi, I just wanted to install atraci and i added the ppa for it and updated and now i run the apt install atraci now the download stopped at 66% and I tried to use ctrl+c to stop the installation but the terminal wont respond, should i force quit the terminal?	17:52
logical	I am new to linox	17:52
logical	linux*	17:52
nacc	Moppy: that seems like the opposite of what cron is for	17:53
zodiac19	My first choice at the moment is to increase the Ram. I would hate to have to try and re-learn a new interface on my computers. Though I do have a computer already running lubuntu so I can experiment with that a bit	17:53
Moppy	logical: it will eventually time out, but you should be able to stop it safely so long as it is just donwloading	17:53
logical	Moppy I closed the terminal to Kill the process now i cant install anything it says that dpkg is used	17:54
Moppy	logical: I think the file you need to remove is /var/lib/dpkg/lock	17:55
squinty	jda2000, fwiw, on 16.04 avahi-browse -h doesn't display the "t" argument. use avahi-browse -ra instead	17:56
logical	I found solution on internet, thx stil :)	17:56
paranoidabhi	I hear a burst of disturbance while play/pause in vlc. When kde completing loading at startup. Any ideas? I am using kubuntu 16.04 with kde 5.6 plasma	17:56
paranoidabhi	*vlc. "and" when	17:56
Bellator	Hey folks, I keep having an "internal error" every time I boot up my 14.04	17:57
Moppy	nacc: If I have a lot of tasks and dont them to all run at once, it's easier to add a slightly random modifier to teh start time, than make a billion diffrent cron entries on each machine	17:57
nacc	Moppy: write a simple wrapper script that takes the task to run as input?	18:01
Moppy	nacc: Yea that's kind of what I'm doing. The script sleeps for a random time on startup. I was just looking for a more elegant way.	18:02
nacc	Moppy: i don't think there is any such way in cron itself, as the point of cron is to accurately schedule tasks	18:02
zodiac19	thinkpad x200 tablet running lubuntu. is there anything reccomended for development use on that specific computer?	18:10
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zodiac19	also prbably a stupd question, what is gnome exactly?	18:17
Metamorphosis	A Desktop Environment. I personally prefer KDE. Ubuntu's default is Unity.	18:18
zodiac19	okay... that helps a little.	18:19
Moppy	zodiac19: Your Lubuntu uses the LXDE desktop envronment.	18:22
wsky	so after i've installed mate, mate-screensaver service gets launched in my unity session	18:22
wsky	i'd rather like it not but there is no entry for it in unity startup programs	18:23
wsky	it seems to be launched along gnome software service	18:23
wsky	is the gnome software service important to unity?	18:23
wsky	or can i switch it off	18:23
zodiac19	Well that will make sense to me after I do more research :b Any software recomendations for development in assuming it hasbetween 1-2 gb of ram?	18:24
zodiac19	Graphic and programing development that is	18:25
Moppy	zodiac19: Are you asking which programming language you should learn?	18:26
zodiac19	no, I am asking what tools on lubuntu I can run with 1-2gb of ram safely	18:26
zodiac19	for writing programs and making art	18:26
_KaLiF	Hi..!	18:27
Moppy	zodiac19: For art, gimp and inkscape with both work.	18:27
Moppy	zodiac19: Lubuntu uses like less than 512MB of ram normally	18:27
zodiac19	okay, thank you	18:28
Metamorphosis	Yes in theory it runs just on 512mb but beware of the type and number of apps you work with at the same time.	18:29
Moppy	zodiac19: Oh, you meant "writing programs" as in word processors, and not programming! I see. Libreoffice works and is inlcuded with Lubuntu.	18:31
zodiac19	Okay, any code editors I should be aware of in that manor?	18:31
Metamorphosis	if all you need is a word processor i recommand abyword which is much lighter and better with low memory	18:32
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zodiac19	okay	18:32
Moppy	zodiac19: The usual suspects all work. Atom, Sublime etc.I've not tried a full IDE on Lubuntu in 2GB so I can't comment on that.	18:33
zodiac19	Well I'm looking to develop video games: 2D RPGs; so the recomendations are much appreciated	18:33
rfdelta	I want to upgrade the firmware of my SSD which is a corsair force LE 240GB. How can I do it in ubuntu?	18:34
Moppy	Personally I would install windows and use RPGMaker but ...	18:34
baizon	rfdelta: well its windows only	18:36
rfdelta	baizon: So I cant do it in ubuntu?	18:37
zodiac19	I have RPG maker on my ubuntu computer already >.>	18:37
baizon	rfdelta: take a pc with windows, or install a trial of windows and upgrade then. Shutout to corsair for windows software only	18:37
baizon	rfdelta: wow, 5 years old corsair thread and no linux support. Thats bad	18:38
rfdelta	baizon: how do I install windows? I only have this one laptop with ubuntu on it.	18:38
baizon	rfdelta: take the ssd out and put it into a pc with windows? you got that option?	18:39
rfdelta	baizon: nope that's the problem. i just have this one laptop	18:39
Narwhaal	is it possible to install apt on another distribution ?	18:40
Narwhaal	or will it break ?	18:40
baizon	Narwhaal: depends on the distribution	18:40
baizon	rfdelta: ask on the corsair support forum/page then	18:40
Narwhaal	baizon: rolling	18:40
bekks	Narwhaal: "rolling" is not a distribution.	18:40
baizon	Narwhaal: depends on the distribution	18:40
rfdelta	baizon: how can I install windows if I have the windows iso on ubuntu?	18:40
Narwhaal	baizon: a distro like gentoo	18:41
Narwhaal	or arch	18:41
rfdelta	baako: can I create a live windows usb in ubuntu?	18:41
baizon	Narwhaal: thats a very bad idea	18:41
zodiac19	I'm learning to use ubuntu for everything at the moment. The tablet computer I have uses lubuntu. but from my knowledge you can run almost any windows application with wine and winetricks	18:41
bekks	Narwhaal: they will break, and they have their own package management systems.	18:41
Narwhaal	bekks: I mean if I remove their own	18:41
bekks	rfdelta: There are no Windows live whatever. :)	18:41
bekks	Narwhaal: Then you will break it.	18:41
Narwhaal	hm	18:41
baizon	rfdelta: its possible to create a live windows usb, but i dont know how	18:41
CodFection	when will I get 4.6 kernel on ubuntu	18:42
nacc	Narwhaal: why would you ever do that? distributions have their own package management systems, use what is there for each distribution	18:42
CodFection	or 4.7 kernel?	18:42
Moppy	You can make a windows live CD on ubuntu. I've done it but don;t remember how. Google knows.	18:42
rfdelta	does anyone know how I can create a live windows usb from within ubuntu? I dont have access to a windows computer...	18:42
baizon	CodFection: with 16.04.2	18:42
EriC^^	!winusb \| rfdelta	18:42
ubottu	rfdelta: WinUSB is a tool for preparing bootable Windows Instalation USBs. Please see http://en.congelli.eu/prog_info_winusb.html for instructions on installation and use. #ubuntu does not provide support for this tool, so please do not ask for help here if it doesn't work for you.	18:42
Narwhaal	nacc: cuz apt is nice, and ubuntu doesn't work for me	18:42
CodFection	baizon, when it will release?	18:42
bekks	CodFection: with the LTS release shipping with 4.6 or 4.7 as default kernel.	18:42
baizon	CodFection: july 2017	18:42
bekks	Narwhaal: Why doesnt it work for you?	18:42
CodFection	wow	18:42
Narwhaal	bekks: it's not rolling	18:43
nacc	that's not a "not working" reason, that's a "I don't like it" reason.	18:43
bekks	Narwhaal: Which is not a valid reason for "does not work". It is just not what you want, which is a big difference.	18:43
baizon	CodFection: well you can always use the mainline kernel	18:43
Narwhaal	"for me" means "in my opinion"	18:43
bekks	CodFection: The mainline kernels dont get official support, you are pretty much on your own with them.	18:44
CodFection	sad	18:44
nacc	CodFection: why?	18:44
CodFection	arch has 4.7 kernel	18:44
CodFection	ubuntu will have after 1 year	18:44
bekks	CodFection: And?	18:44
nacc	CodFection: so?	18:44
CodFection	why	18:44
bekks	CodFection: Why not?	18:44
bekks	CodFection: Arch is not Ubuntu.	18:44
CodFection	latest features?	18:44
bekks	CodFection: Name one.	18:44
nacc	CodFection: name one feature in 4.7 you know you need.	18:44
xubuntu-fayir	HEIL LINUX	18:45
bekks	!ops \| xubuntu-fayir	18:45
ubottu	xubuntu-fayir: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, PriceChild, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, genii, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, k1l, rww, phunyguy, bazhang, chu	18:45
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CodFection	can I name from 4.6?	18:45
dax	hi	18:45
bekks	CodFection: NAme one feature you actually need.	18:45
dax	xubuntu-fayir: no.	18:45
bekks	CodFection: Not just one you know the name of :)	18:45
Narwhaal	but yea, no way ? not even from a more stable distribution ?	18:45
Moppy	BTW, it's offtopic but windows DOES have a live function; it can run from a bootable USB. For sure 8+ does but I don't know about 7 and earlier.	18:45
bekks	Narwhaal: No.	18:45
bekks	Moppy: 7 and earlier cant.	18:46
CodFection	I mean as a programmer, aren't we supposed to have latest? I mean not the unstable latest.. just the stable latest	18:46
nacc	Narwhaal: sorry, you are in a support channel and said "doesn't work". I misinterpreted.	18:46
Narwhaal	nacc: no problem	18:46
nacc	CodFection: you don't need the latest kernel to write programs.	18:46
bekks	CodFection: No. When being paranoid, you need the latest and greatest. When you are a programmer, you want a stable system.	18:46
baizon	CodFection: well then get 16.10 in a month, it will have the latest kernel. LTS sticks with "stable"	18:46
bekks	baizon: 16.10 will not have the "latest", too.	18:47
Narwhaal	ok then	18:47
CodFection	actually many linux are using 4.6 / 4.7 kernels and they are quite stable.. baizon bekks nacc. dont get me wrong, I prefer ubuntu very much just doubtful about the updates	18:47
nacc	it's supposed to be 4.8 based, (iirc) -- i wonder if that means 16.04.2 will be too, actually	18:47
Narwhaal	time to start getting apt working on archlinux then	18:47
bekks	CodFection: And none of them is Ubuntu.	18:47
bekks	Narwhaal: Proceed to #archlinux and ask them.	18:48
Narwhaal	bekks: no need, I'll just do it	18:48
Narwhaal	i'm inquisitive so	18:48
CodFection	ubuntu is very easy to install for me.. which is why I like it but then I realize I am not gonna be having latest kernel or packages. (stable ones..)	18:48
bekks	Narwhaal: YMMD, ROFL, good luck. :D	18:48
Narwhaal	ymmd ?	18:48
bekks	CodFection: And whats the exact problem you are having using 16.04 which is supported until 2021?	18:49
bekks	Narwhaal: "you made my day"	18:49
Narwhaal	ah	18:49
Narwhaal	thanks	18:49
baizon	Narwhaal: well if you want bleeding edge packages i recommend a RR distribution	18:49
bekks	Narwhaal: It's the expression for just having heard the most funny joke this day :)	18:50
baizon	ups wrong guy, sorry	18:50
alkisg	CodFection: mainline kernels are supported by upstream kernel developers, while ubuntu patched kernels by ubuntu developers. You can select which one you want to support you.	18:50
Narwhaal	baizon: I'm using arch, gentoo and I'm working on a new distrib	18:50
baizon	CodFection: well if you want bleeding edge packages i recommend a RR distribution	18:50
joaquin69	hello guys somebody know why when i put a static IP, after a while... the ip changed?	18:50
CodFection	bekks, like I said. no problems but I might miss features of latest softwares. thats the only thing I am worried about	18:50
Moppy	I asked earlier but the channel was quiet. How do you schedule a task for a random start time? I am using cron but having the tasks sleep on startup and it's just a bad hack ;-(	18:50
bekks	joaquin69: your ip isnt static then.	18:50
bekks	CodFection: NAme ONE feature you need you are missing.	18:50
joaquin69	i put on static :'c	18:50
baizon	Moppy: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/randomvar.html	18:50
CodFection	bekks, like gcc has many features	18:51
CodFection	in newer version	18:51
paranoidabhi	Tired of this http://askubuntu.com/questions/816848/burst-of-sound-whenever-audio-starts :/	18:51
joaquin69	bekks: can i show you my interface ?	18:51
bekks	CodFection: Which does not have ANYTHING to do with a specific kernel version.	18:51
Moppy	baizon: In a crontab file?	18:51
bekks	CodFection: So in fact you dont need a newer kernel and can just stick with LTS.	18:51
CodFection	ok but what about packages? they need to be updated isnt it?	18:51
baizon	Moppy: no, im just showing you the direction	18:51
paranoidabhi	any ideas?	18:52
baizon	CodFection: and they get updated, just not with features	18:52
bekks	CodFection: They are supported and updated until 2021 - so whats your exact issue at that point?	18:52
Moppy	baizon: I see, so you're cron doesn't do it out of the box. I understand now.	18:53
Moppy	+saying	18:53
nacc	the notion you always want the latest version of everything feels like miseducation to me; if you want it purely to say you are on the 'latest', that's fine -- just admit that and go to a different distribution :)	18:53
alkisg	The latest version of everything usually means "spending a couple of hours per day reporting bugs"	18:53
Moppy	Well, ubuntu had an old version of gthumb for ages because of some gnome compatbility. It's nice to have new apps sometimes.	18:53
CodFection	if it was perfect, people wouldn't need other distros bekks	18:53
joaquin69	http://pastebin.com/ddE0aXDj this is my interface config	18:54
CodFection	nacc, I am not.. I am deciding which one to install..	18:54
Moppy	i used to have to build gthumb from source, but then it stopped working when somethng changed int he depedancies	18:54
paranoidabhi	I have been stuck at it for 3 months. Not found any solutions.	18:54
bekks	CodFection: So you came here just for getting some reasons for "needing" the latest and greatest, then?	18:54
Metamorphosis	I'm still on Kubuntu 10.04 and it feels wonderful . you dont need new software. the old is better.	18:54
joaquin69	and after while, the ip is changed	18:54
CodFection	the only reason thats keeping me from ubuntu is packages updates nacc	18:54
bekks	CodFection: Then use another distribution. Whats the problem?	18:54
Amm0n	!latest	18:54
ubottu	Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.	18:54
paranoidabhi	Metamorphosis, is it stable?	18:55
Amm0n	apt + rolling release -> debian testing	18:55
nacc	CodFection: you're in the wrong channel then -- this is the support channel	18:55
zodiac19	okay new question, and forgive me if its a bit of an ignorant question. does a docking station make a computer run better or just allow th computer to handle more inputs and outputs?	18:55
nacc	Moppy: right, that's what distributions do for you -- they ensure compatibility	18:55
Metamorphosis	yeah its great. i use libreoffice on it everyday. i also use Windows xp and thats stable too. but ubuntu 10.04 is better and more polished	18:55
alkisg	paranoidabhi: does it work fine with e.g. an ubuntu live cd? I.e. is it a problem with the kde stack (phonon etc) specifically?	18:56
nacc	zodiac19: typically it just adds hardware/ports	18:56
bekks	Metamorphosis: Ubuntu 10.04 isnt supported anymore.	18:56
paranoidabhi	Please have a look http://askubuntu.com/questions/816848/burst-of-sound-whenever-audio-starts :/	18:56
Metamorphosis	I dont need support. the software just works.	18:56
CodFection	ubottu, thank you very much for clarifying. I hope those 3 could also explain it like this rather than pushing me away from ubuntu. thanks	18:56
ubottu	CodFection: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)	18:56
Moppy	zodiac19: It's a device for a laptop to add extra ports. Some docks might have like a larger external hard drive so i suppose they might improve performance if you're low in disk space :)	18:56
zodiac19	okay, that helps a lot thank you!	18:56
paranoidabhi	alkisg, not sure. I haven't tried.	18:56
CodFection	Amm0n,	18:56
bekks	CodFection: Actually, I dont care wether you are using Ubuntu or not - it is not my decision, but yours.	18:57
nacc	+1	18:57
paranoidabhi	Metamorphosis, which kde you have?	18:57
alkisg	paranoidabhi: if it's just a problem with kde, you should direct the question there. You can also check if it's kubuntu-specific or kde-specific, and report the issue accordingly.	18:57
paranoidabhi	alkisg, I think it is driver issue. Why do you think it is a kde problem?	18:57
Metamorphosis	paranoidabhi at first it was KDE 4 but i managed to find a way and installed KDE 3.x packages on it.	18:57
alkisg	paranoidabhi: well, you can test with a live cd and see for yourself in a few minutes. KDE does have its own additions to the sound system.	18:58
paranoidabhi	Metamorphosis, why? i am using kde 5.6 and am waiting for fixes in kde 5.7. I suspect older kdes must very unstable.	18:58
nrml1	any of you use puppet?	18:59
CodFection	bekks, linux irc supports never actually help beginners	18:59
CodFection	so its useless to ask here. bye	18:59
bekks	CodFection: Pointless discussions are not in the scope of this channel. This is a support channel, only.	18:59
Metamorphosis	paranoidabhi no i believe KDE 3 was better and its also better with low end systems. KDE 4 is heavy. i did not tried KDE 5 yet. i'm downloadind Kubuntu 16.04.1 at the moment	18:59
paranoidabhi	Metamorphosis, kde 5 is "so" much better. You are missing a lot of good stuff.	19:00
tgm4883	CodFection: if you wish to discuss it, #ubuntu-discuss would be a better channel	19:00
pureshors	hello i search a french canal	19:05
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dax	pureshors: try #ubuntu-fr :)	19:06
dax	/join #ubuntu-fr	19:06
pureshors	thank you dax	19:06
paranoidabhi	sick of bursting sound.	19:11
paranoidabhi	http://askubuntu.com/questions/816848/burst-of-sound-whenever-audio-starts :/	19:11
POwerless	does anyone know how to fix those buggy icons? http://imgur.com/a/4pTym	19:12
Hideme	Migrated to 16.04, upon login, the desktop doesn't load while using a 4.x kernel. If I switch to a 3.x kernel everything works. Any idea how to fix this?	19:13
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Seveas	Hideme: first guess would be 3rd party graphics drivers that need to be reinstalled. Are you using non-default video drivers?	19:14
ioria	Hideme, amd video card ?	19:15
Hideme	Seveas, oddly enough, the guest login works fine. It is a VM.	19:15
scream_	Yo	19:16
rattlebattle79	Hideme: Maybe your permissions of your home folder is gone bad? sudo chown username:username /home/username -R	19:17
bekks	Hideme: Check the permissions before blindly firing up commands.	19:17
Hideme	rattlebattle79, reverting to a 3.x kenerl works tho without the change in persmission.	19:17
OerHeks	i would try: Sudo dpkg --configure -a ### run apt install -f, all should be fine now	19:18
mixxit	whats the deal for installing software manually	19:19
mixxit	should i make a folder in usr or opt	19:19
AciD`	hey	19:20
alkisg	Hideme: anything significant in the last lines of .xsession-errors?	19:21
AciD`	if I can ssh to other boxes, and receive ssh connection for my user on this computer, shouldn't I have a ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub file in my home?	19:21
Hideme	rattlebattle79, confirmed and issue remains with 4.x kernel	19:21
alkisg	AciD`: afaik you create that only if you want key-based authentication, instead of password-based	19:23
Hideme	alkisg, openConnection: connect: no such file or dir. cnnot connect to brltty at :0	19:23
AciD`	alkisg -> oh ok, I though I remember seeing those files b	19:24
AciD`	*before	19:24
alkisg	Hideme: anything else? e.g. check if xorg crashes, for example because you're using different settings than the default user	19:24
alkisg	resolution, compositing, stuff like that	19:24
Hideme	alkisg, maybe I should jsut rm the xorg.conf?	19:25
ioria	Hideme, at the login screen , can you open a console and login ?	19:26
alkisg	Hideme: If the system works with a new user but not with the old user, I don't think xorg.conf matters	19:26
Hideme	ioria, yes.	19:26
Hideme	alkisg, yes, very oddy how Gust account works and my user doesn't.	19:26
ioria	Hideme, try to create a new user	19:26
Hideme	ioria, okay	19:27
mustmodify	frustrating. When I ssh into my dev machine, and then ssh into a client's machine, if I step away, I come back and it's frozen and I can't disconnect.	19:27
mustmodify	Is that an issue with the ssh config on my dev machine? or the client machine? or both?	19:28
mustmodify	both are ubuntu	19:28
Hideme	ioria, New user works.	19:30
ioria	Hideme, so personal setting issue, i guess	19:31
alkisg	Hideme: one big test is to rename the two major settings folders so that new ones are created: (1) logout and go to e.g. vt1 to login as old-user, so that gsettings aren't used. (2) mv .local .local.old; mv .config .config.old (3) login normally as old-user. If at that point you can login, then you have confirmed that a user setting is to blame. But note that if you didn't understand the "mv" commands, and you don't know how to put those folders back,	19:31
ioria	Hideme, yes, usually the problem is ~/.config and ~/.compiz	19:31
Hideme	THank you. I'll recreate users.	19:32
ioria	Hideme, remember to add user to sudo	19:32
h4k1m	hi everyone	19:34
mixxit	hi	19:35
h4k1m	I have only windows on my laptop, and I want to install ubuntu on my ssd hard-drive	19:35
h4k1m	Has anyone done something similar?	19:36
Bashing-om	!dualboot \| h4k1m	19:36
ubottu	h4k1m: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot	19:36
mixxit	yep	19:36
h4k1m	I used to have a dual boot on my laptop's hard-drive	19:36
mixxit	but its really hard if its a modern laptop	19:37
mixxit	all the guides are a bit out of date	19:37
mixxit	battery management is not great in linux and it doesnt do well with switchable graphics	19:37
h4k1m	what I want to do now is (if possible), to keep Windows on my hard-driev	19:37
minimec	h4k1m: Do you have two harddrives available? Is it an external SSD?	19:37
h4k1m	minimec: yes an external ssd	19:37
mixxit	yeah thats fine but you should shrink the drive down a bit	19:37
h4k1m	mixxit: the internal one you mean?	19:38
mixxit	yep	19:38
h4k1m	minimec: btw where will grub be installed in this case?	19:38
mixxit	first do 'Try Ubuntu' from a boot usb and see if it all works properly	19:38
mixxit	grab rufus and the iso from the site	19:38
Bashing-om	h4k1m: Best to show the channel what we are working with . Can you boot up a liveDVD of 'buntu ?	19:38
ioria	h4k1m, on your externaal	19:39
h4k1m	Bashing-om: yes of course (as I said I used to have a dual-boot with Windows)	19:39
h4k1m	and that I removed ubuntu completely as I don't use it that often (all my softwares are on windows)	19:39
minimec	h4k1m: Ok. So basically you can just boot a live USB stick and use the external SDD as install medium. If you want to be sure, you can even remove the laptop hardrive. So you will not have any problem for the boot master sector. You moght have to disable EFI first in widows, but if you already had a dual boot system, you probably don't need to do that anymore.	19:40
h4k1m	ioria: does it mean that grub will be installed on the external hard-drive?	19:40
mustmodify	So the suggested escape sequence for an SSH session, ~. can't be typed (at least by me) because I need a shift for ~ but I need not to shift for .	19:40
ioria	h4k1m, yes	19:40
minimec	h4k1m: To boot ubuntu, you just set USB to be the first boot medium.	19:40
Bashing-om	h4k1m: :) .. Great , show us your system partitioning ' sudo parted -l ' in a pastebin site . And we go from there .	19:41
h4k1m	ioria: minimec thanks ^^, the question I still have to ask is whether it won't mess my windows bootloader	19:41
h4k1m	Bashing-om: I didn't try it yet (I wanted just to enquire first before giving it a try)	19:41
ioria	h4k1m, windows is on the internal drive ?	19:41
h4k1m	ioria: yes	19:41
ioria	h4k1m, no, it's fine	19:42
rojo	hello	19:43
rojo	clear	19:43
minimec	h4k1m: If you choose the SSD as install medium, it will also install grub to the master boot sector of the SSD (default setting). As said.. If you want to be sure, remove the windows harddrive (if that is possible).	19:43
h4k1m	ioria: do you know if it will give good performances (due to the fact that it's installed on an ssd hard-drive)?	19:43
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h4k1m	minimec: yes but to remove windows' hard-drive I'd need to open my laptop...	19:44
ioria	h4k1m, ssd is good	19:44
h4k1m	minimec: I think I'll give it a try!	19:44
ioria	h4k1m, usb connected ?	19:45
minimec	h4k1m: Performance is depending of the speed of your USB3 port, but generally you should not have a problem. You can speed up perfomance with some tricks after installation. Mount /tmp to RAM for example.	19:45
h4k1m	ioria: probably are there ssd hard-drives out there that plugged elsewhere (I dont have much experience with that)?	19:45
minimec	h4k1m: During installation, wirte down the /dev/sdX device youa re installing Ubuntu on. It will probably be /dev/sdb for the external SSD. Then you install brub on the same /dev/sdX device, and you are good.	19:47
ioria	h4k1m, well, in theory sata-usb adapter... but not very practical	19:47
h4k1m	ioria: yes I see	19:48
ioria	h4k1m, in the partitioning screen, in the installation process, remember to check (at bottom) the grub location	19:49
h4k1m	ioria: does it mean that grub will "kind-of" supersede windows' bootloader when the ssd disk is plugged (and the bios is set to boot from the usb device)?	19:51
ioria	h4k1m, yes	19:51
h4k1m	ioria: Nice	19:51
h4k1m	ioria: minimec Bashing-om Thanks very much guys for the help ^^	19:51
ioria	h4k1m, no prob	19:51
minimec	h4k1m: ^^	19:52
Bashing-om	h4k1m: :) Just try'n to help .	19:52
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meth	Hello	19:56
meth	SOS	19:56
meth	it's super slow	19:56
bekks	Define "it".	19:56
meth	it's slow as turtles	19:56
meth	from boot to login screen > slow \| from login screen to unity > slow \| running any app > slow	19:57
meth	even shutdown is slow	19:57
SonikkuAmerica	meth - how much RAM is in your machine.	19:58
meth	the current one? it's 6GB	19:58
bekks	The machine you are running Ubuntu on.	19:58
meth	not only this machine, every machine i install ubuntu on it gets slow after dist-upgrade	19:59
mixxit	virtual machine or dedicated machine	19:59
meth	the issue isn't related me only, check this one https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2323156	19:59
meth	mixxit, dedicated.	19:59
jduck	hi. what does "DNE" mean here: https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2016/CVE-2016-5696.html ?	20:01
_adb	jduck: probably "does not exist"	20:02
Pici	jduck: Does Not Exist	20:02
jduck	my understanding is that is incorrect for almost every place it appears in this document.	20:02
jduck	Linux 3.6 < 4.7 are affected	20:03
meth	even after installing AMDGPU driver it's slow.	20:03
jduck	or to put it in mathy terms, Linux [3.6, 4.7)	20:03
Pici	jduck: But those specific source packages do not exist in every release.	20:03
jduck	Pici: you're telling me the linux kernel does not exist in every release?	20:04
Pici	jduck: linux-lts-trusty is only preseent int 12.04, so it DNE for the other Ubuntu releases listed.	20:04
jduck	Pici: thanks for your help, but i'll take it to the guys in the page	20:05
apb1963_	Aptitude is giving me an abortion when trying to install libsnmp-dev. Details here: http://pastebin.com/AAaZgFid	20:12
rfdelta	Should I install ubuntu with secure boot on or off?	20:14
Jordan_U	rfdelta: If you have no sepecific reason to turn it off, then keep it on.	20:15
rachelr	New ubuntu user here. Have it installed on a VPS. Trying to get a MongoDB client on my local Macbook to access the MongoDB on my VPS. I think it's a firewall issue but I'm not sure...http://stackoverflow.com/questions/39151140/cant-connect-to-ubuntu-mongodb-instance-from-mongochef-client	20:15
minimec	rfdelta: If you only have ubuntu on that machine, I would go without 'secure boot'. MY opninion... ;)	20:15
meth	why the gpu clock set to 33mhz?	20:19
Tims_Tech	so I installed lxde by typing:	20:19
Tims_Tech	sudo apt-get install lxde	20:19
Tims_Tech	but how to start it?	20:20
Tims_Tech	I read the official wiki	20:20
Tims_Tech	but both the command does not work :P	20:20
tgm4883	Tims_Tech: don't use enter as punctuation	20:20
Tims_Tech	sorry	20:20
tgm4883	Tims_Tech: have you tried selecting it from the login screen?	20:20
minimec	Tims_Tech: You might have to disable 'autologin' in >settings >users. Then logout the current session. You can then coose lxde in the login manager.	20:21
Tims_Tech	I don't see an option on the lock screen tgm4883	20:21
Tims_Tech	I don't have autologin enabled	20:21
tgm4883	Tims_Tech: It wouldn't be on the lock screen would be my guess	20:21
apb1963_	rachelr: I don't know anything about mongo or vps or macbook... but after reading your link, basic troubleshooting technique forces me to ask the question "What is the exact error message?" Any request for help should always include that information. If no error message... say that, but also include info as to how you determined "it doesn't work".	20:22
Tims_Tech	tgm4883, so do you have any idea how to start or select it?	20:22
tgm4883	Tims_Tech: about half way down this page is pictures and a description http://www.howtogeek.com/193129/how-to-install-and-use-another-desktop-environment-on-linux/	20:22
galabarg	The kubuntu channel is inactive right now, can I ask a question about a plasma problem here? Or would #kde be more appropriate?	20:22
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tgm4883	Tims_Tech: look for "On Ubuntu’s default login screen — known as a display manager — this menu can be accessed by clicking an icon next to your user name. The icon only appears if multiple desktop environments are available. On other display managers, you may need to click a “Session” menu or a similar icon. You’ll find the option somewhere on	20:23
tgm4883	the screen."	20:23
rachelr	It's a timeout error, I will paste it.	20:23
fishscene	Does anyone know if it is possible to set up/configure https for a Snap package that only has http? Specifically for nextcloud	20:23
apb1963_	rachelr: you should also modify your question on stackoverlow to include it.	20:23
Tims_Tech	hmm	20:24
Tims_Tech	there is no options button	20:24
Tims_Tech	in the lockscreen tgm4883	20:24
galabarg	Does anyone have an answer to the question i just asked?	20:24
tgm4883	galabarg: don't ask to ask a question	20:25
minimec	galabarg: --> #kde. You will not find a lot of Plasma users here, I guess.	20:25
apb1963_	galabarg: just ask... if someone is offended they'll tell you... though I think I might ask in #kde first	20:25
galabarg	sorry, I'll go ahead and ask then and see if anyone knows: I just started using kubuntu is not remembering any of my shortcuts.	20:26
galabarg	*and it is	20:26
galabarg	For example, if I add an alternate shortcut to open the launcher with alt+z, it forgets about it after about 20 minutes.	20:27
galabarg	even in the same session	20:27
minimec	Tims_Tech: Logout the current session (or reboot). On the login screen you should have an ubuntu logo next to your user name. Click on it and choose the desktop environment... http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-OXA6gg2EBdA/VNK0dlwoz6I/AAAAAAAAEUE/fMzSkKPNeoI/s1600/LightDM_1.jpg	20:27
Tims_Tech	minimec, I don't have that	20:28
Tims_Tech	I just installed ubuntu 10 min ago	20:28
apb1963_	galabarg: Wild guess... but is sudo involved in any way? Because 20 minutes is more or less about the time it seems to take for sudo to timeout.	20:28
Tims_Tech	minimec, so any idea?	20:29
galabarg	It's all done through the gui, and iirc it doesn't even ask for my password (since shortcuts are something that would presumably be specific to a user).	20:29
Tims_Tech	I really don't have that button :P	20:29
minimec	Tims_Tech: ok. Hmmm... The 'lxde' package you installed seems to be the right one (Metapackage for LXDE). MAybe try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm', to reconfigure the login manager	20:30
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galabarg	If nobody knows then that's understandable; I'll try #kde.	20:31
Tims_Tech	minimec, still same :(	20:31
apb1963_	galabarg: Like I said... wild guess. It's the only thing I can think of offhand that has about a 20 minute timeout. I would investigate along those lines until a better idea (or more knowledgeable person) came along.	20:31
rachelr	Timed out after 30000 ms while waiting for a server that matches ReadPreferenceServerSelector{readPreference=primary}. Client view of cluster state is {type=UNKNOWN, servers=[{address=158.69.216.19:27017, type=UNKNOWN, state=CONNECTING, exception={com.mongodb.MongoSocketReadException: Prematurely reached end of stream}}]	20:32
rachelr	I'll screen shot and upload to SO.	20:32
Tims_Tech	minimec, it looks like this:(not my screenshot) http://www.tecmint.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Ubuntu-16.04-Login-Screen.png	20:33
apb1963_	rachelr: Yeah.. that information is HUGE. Which is good. Someone should be able to figure that out... I'll study it for a few minutes just in case something pops out.	20:33
rachelr	Appreciate it!	20:33
minimec	Tims_Tech: ok. Did you reboot that machine (just to be sure)?	20:33
Tims_Tech	I rebooted once, I will reboot again :P	20:34
apb1963_	rachelr: Actually... I would check to see that your server knows its a primary.	20:34
Tims_Tech	will be back in a min	20:34
apb1963_	rachelr: since it's saying "waiting for a server that matches ReadPreferenceServerSelector{readPreference=primary}"	20:34
rachelr	Sorry, a primary? Not familiar with that lingo	20:34
apb1963_	rachelr: primary, secondary...	20:35
apb1963_	rachelr: just English :)	20:35
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rachelr	lol	20:36
Tims_Tech_	still same mindandsky	20:37
rachelr	I guess I'm not familiar with how a server identifies as primary	20:37
Tims_Tech_	oops	20:37
Tims_Tech_	still same minimec	20:37
adamg	did we rule out firewalling?	20:37
apb1963_	rachelr: Here's another tidbit I found on SO: You should verify if the http interface is accessible with : localhost:28017 . If you are not able to access then verify if if any other service on that machine is accessible from the remote machine. If not that there is something which is blocking the remote machine from accessing services on your hosted ubuntu.	20:37
Tims_Tech_	I am on the latest release from ubuntu(16.04) and installed every update :P minimec	20:37
adamg	simple test for that would be to try "telnet 158.69.216.19 27017"	20:37
LocusAsaf	if I want to install a specific version of maven3, I understand i'm suppose to do `apt-get install maven=oldversion` where do I find out what to put for oldversion?	20:38
minimec	Tims_Tech_: Tims_Tech_ I am just looking here ( http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/lxde ) to find a hint...	20:38
Tims_Tech_	I am installing lsdm	20:38
Tims_Tech_	lxdm**	20:38
amnix	I bought a new SSD today and I have installed ubuntu on it... the problem is it's not booting. What do I do?	20:38
nacc	LocusAsaf: `apt-cache policy maven` will show you the available versions	20:39
rachelr	I can get to the remote www folder from the local machine. I have apache up and phpmyadmin as well working well	20:39
apb1963_	rachelr: Please do what adamg suggested and report	20:40
Tims_Tech_	let me reboot again	20:41
apb1963_	Aptitude is giving me an abortion when trying to install libsnmp-dev. Details here: http://pastebin.com/AAaZgFid	20:42
minimec	Tims_Tech_: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure lxde-common' --> LXDE.desktop in http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/all/lxde-common/filelist	20:42
amnix	ssd not booting. help?	20:43
adamg	abhinand_: what's your lsb-release?	20:43
adamg	oh, sorry, apb1963_ ^	20:43
rachelr	Have to jump off, will try a bit later	20:44
apb1963_	adamg: http://pastebin.com/VK9QG3kN	20:44
adamg	apb1963_: i mean what ubuntu rev... cat /etc/lsb-release	20:45
apb1963_	DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS"adamg:	20:46
apb1963_	slight backwards but ok	20:47
apb1963_	adamg: this channel is so quiet these days I don't even know if I'm connected... you get that? ^^^^	20:49
adamg	apb1963_: try just "apt install libsnmp-dev". (maybe with :i386, i don't know anything around what that does or when it's needed). What I hear from debian peoples is that apt is generally better (and yes, it's just apt, not apt-get)	20:50
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apb1963_	adamg: yeah, I don't know what the i:386 is all about either... it's trying to determine whether to install x or x:i386, I have a ton of installs exactly the same. No clue.	20:53
apb1963_	adamg: libsnmp-dev is already the newest version.	20:54
adamg	okay, so proceed as if everything is well and see if anything breaks :P	20:54
apb1963_	adamg: I guess I could sub apt for aptitude everywhere... but honestly I don't like modifying other people's scripts that have apparently worked for hundreds of other people.	20:57
apb1963_	adamg: either sub apt or remove that particular pre-req	20:57
adamg	worked at some point... the i386 makes me think it may be out of date	20:58
_adb	did ubuntu ever have a virtual package for lamp? that doesn't exist anymore does it?	20:58
gian86	ciao	20:58
apb1963_	adamg: well.. that's the thing.. the script doesn't hard code the i386..	20:58
gian86	!list	20:58
ubottu	gian86: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».	20:58
apb1963_	adamg: give me a minute... i'll paste it	20:58
k1l	!lamp \| _adb	20:59
ubottu	_adb: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process.	20:59
k1l	_adb: actually that is a tasksel	20:59
apb1963_	adamg: http://pastebin.com/Jf32kwSb	21:00
dfgss	what's the official linux-mint irc channel ?	21:00
k1l	!mint \| dfgss	21:00
ubottu	dfgss: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org	21:00
dfgss	anyone know?	21:00
adamg	apb1963_: i don't even see how :i386 gets in there...	21:02
dfgss	do you guys know what is update in inhibit means	21:02
_adb	k1l: so what's the deal iwth the caret? haven't seen taht before.. does it carry special meaning? package lamp-server doesn't show up when i search for it	21:02
k1l	dfgss: ask the mint guys. they handle updates differently	21:02
k1l	_adb: its a tasksel, not a package	21:03
k1l	_adb: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Tasksel	21:03
apb1963_	adamg: it comes from the awk statement	21:03
_adb	k1l: thanks	21:03
apb1963_	adamg: which merely prints what aptitude is returning.	21:03
apb1963_	adamg: from a search	21:03
apb1963_	adamg: definitely not obvious.. had to stare at it for a few minutes	21:04
adamg	well, I got nothing.	21:04
apb1963_	adamg: well... one thing I noticed when I gave you that lsb-release info is that it says amd64	21:05
apb1963_	so... that kinda blows my mind	21:05
jakubko	hi	21:06
rockstar5	hello guys I need help with something. I would like to play music from Android device to my PC speakers. the device is connected to a WiFi router on my PC which in turn is connected to an ADSL router which my PC uses for internet. I know how to stream to A2dp with bluetooth dongle but would like to do so somehow with wifi but can't find how since they are	21:06
rockstar5	not using the same wifi connection	21:06
rockstar5	is this possible?	21:07
minimec	rockstar5: I would think of an application like BubbleUPnP, that would share the music in the whole home network. Then use an UPnP player on ubuntu on the desktop...	21:11
apb1963_	adamg: This is where it comes from: aptitude -F '%c %p' search libsnmp-dev	21:12
rockstar5	which upnp player for desktop should I use? I tried rygel and minidlna but it doesn't get detected on bubbleupnp, maybe it might be because it's not a direct connection to the same wifi?	21:12
apb1963_	adamg: awk matches the p at the beginning of the string, and then prints that line... resulting in libsnmp-dev:i386	21:13
_adb	i'm trying to grok the distinction between tasksels and virtual packages. who decides what's what and how do they determine this? it isn't necessary to install the tasksel package to use tasksels (however the note "Calling tasks from apt-get is not documented anywhere" doesn't inspire much confidence), but the tasksel package is needed to know which tasksels exist and what they contain? how does apt know?	21:13
minimec	rockstar5: vlc. Or there is this nifty application called 'djmount'. You could then mount the UPnP share as a folder in the filesystme	21:15
minimec	rockstar5: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=all&section=all&arch=any&keywords=djmount&searchon=names	21:15
rockstar5	thanks I will look into it	21:16
minimec	rockstar5: https://codeyarns.com/2015/01/28/how-to-mount-media-server-using-djmount/	21:17
SparkySquirrel	I need to install the AAC decoder for videos in Ubuntu 16.10, how would I do that?	21:18
SparkySquirrel	It's the LiveUSB lol	21:18
-iTs_mY_LifE`:#ubuntu- #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. JOIN US AT #WRONGPLANET ! #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. JOIN US AT #WRONGPLANET ! #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. JOIN US AT #WRONGPLANET ! #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. JOIN US AT #WRONGPLANET ! #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. JOIN US AT #WRONGPLANET ! #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. JOIN US AT #WRONGPLANET !		21:23
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-decent_guy:#ubuntu- #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. JOIN US AT #WRONGPLANET ! #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. JOIN US AT #WRONGPLANET ! #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. JOIN US AT #WRONGPLANET ! #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. JOIN US AT #WRONGPLANET ! #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. JOIN US AT #WRONGPLANET ! #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. JOIN US AT #WRONGPLANET !		21:23
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-_-Shagy-_:#ubuntu- #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. JOIN US AT #WRONGPLANET ! #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. JOIN US AT #WRONGPLANET ! #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. JOIN US AT #WRONGPLANET ! #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. JOIN US AT #WRONGPLANET ! #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. JOIN US AT #WRONGPLANET ! #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. JOIN US AT #WRONGPLANET !		21:24
minimec	SparkySquirrel: That would still be possible if you added some resident space, when creating the LiveUSB stick, as far as I know... 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras'	21:24
minimec	SparkySquirrel: or... sudo apt-get install gstreamer1.0-libav gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg	21:26
Netek	what was that? wrongplanet says that with ubuntu you lose?? hah is this called spam?	21:33
dax	Netek: somebody being silly, just ignore it	21:33
dax	it's been handled	21:33
Netek	dax ok. I been on here for a while now and I never see that happen before	21:34
dax	Netek: we're a large channel, so people get kicks out of being silly in front of an audience :(	21:34
Netek	dax so like in real life then :)	21:35
dax	quite	21:35
Rexy	I know there's a command to show what happened today in history. I can't remember it for the life of me.	21:38
Rexy	Anyone know it?	21:38
minimec	Netek: THX to you I know now, that my filter is working... ;)	21:39
minimec	For irrsi users.... '/ignore * -regexp -pattern #WRONGPLANET'	21:39
Netek	thanks to me? heh you are very welcome -_-	21:40
minimec	Netek: I do not get any of these wrongplanet messages anymore....	21:41
minimec	Netek: They are simply ignored...	21:41
Netek	ok cool	21:41
Rexy	Am I just losing it, or is there a history command	21:42
Netek	they dont really bother me that much so heh	21:42
xenialmess	I am having trouble downloading any xenial desktop .iso	21:43
xenialmess	Direct download always fails immediately. Torrent links fail to load. None of the mirrors in any country are successful.	21:44
Rexy	xenialmess: is it a problem with your ISP possibly?	21:44
xenialmess	Anyone else confirm or potentially an ISP block?	21:45
Rexy	works fine for me	21:45
xenialmess	It could be. Currently at my girlfriend's University.	21:45
paranoidabhi	hi!	21:45
paranoidabhi	Question: http://askubuntu.com/questions/816848/burst-of-sound-whenever-audio-starts	21:45
transhuman_	Hi! This is my quandry ubuntu 14.04 does not have ffmpeg in the repository and its a very long process to install. Ubuntu 15.04 is no longer supported so it looks like do-release-upgrade will work. Thirdly my video card will not work (on the chip with 16.04) any suggestions?	21:45
keepguessing	I am on ubuntu 16.04	21:45
paranoidabhi	This is likely a hardware not a kde one. (I asked in kde)	21:46
paranoidabhi	Please have a look if possible.	21:46
Rexy	xenialmess: They probley dont' want people downloading Linux ISOs in thier network /s	21:46
keepguessing	I cannot see my launcher taskbar and no shortcuts are working.	21:46
xenialmess	@Rexy typical reasons for this being?	21:46
transhuman_	sorry do-release-upgrade WONT work	21:46
keepguessing	Also I cannot move my windows or do alt-tab.	21:46
Rexy	transhuman_: Find your video card, and see if you need specific drivers for it?	21:47
keepguessing	I tried dconf --reset	21:47
keepguessing	Any suggestions are highly appretiated.	21:47
Rexy	wouldnt want people torrenting there	21:47
Rexy	other than that no idea why the mirrors arent working	21:47
Rexy	go ask IT	21:47
xenialmess	hb direct download though? probably large file size restrictions or something? yeah, ill have to ask it.	21:48
transhuman_	been down that road for 16.04 it aint happening. cant install the nvidia drivers cause of an init level problem where I cant get enough to install from boot and it isnt recognized in the system settings...a whole host of issues with 16.04 would be better to just upgrade to 15.04 but that is not possible correct?	21:49
Amm0n	transhuman_, for 14.04 ffmpeg is avconv (which was a fork from ubuntu for some license reasons iirc)	21:49
transhuman_	right but it has returned in 15.04	21:50
transhuman_	wait your saying its now called avconv?	21:50
Amm0n	no it was called avconv in 14.04, you're right that it has returned	21:51
transhuman_	so there is no way to get 15.04 to install anymore?	21:51
Amm0n	it sounded like you just need ffmpeg on 14.04	21:51
bekks	!15.04 \| transhuman_	21:51
ubottu	transhuman_: Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) was the 22nd release of Ubuntu. Support ended on February 4, 2016. See !eol, !eolupgrade and http://ubottu.com/y/vivid	21:51
transhuman_	its a real real long compile process frought with disaster for sure	21:52
bekks	transhuman_: If you are still running 15.04 it is time to update.	21:52
Rexy	xenialmess: they might even have a mirror at the uni	21:52
Rexy	If so that'd be baller	21:52
zodiac19_	Is there an autokey script that can run a specific terminal command?	21:53
xenialmess	Thanks @Rexy. I'll check that out.	21:53
transhuman_	ok I will upgrade to 15.10 from 14.04	21:53
transhuman_	cant do 16.04 because of video card issues	21:53
bekks	zodiac19_: create a new hotkey, assign your script to be executed.	21:53
bekks	transhuman_: then you have to reinstall 14.04	21:53
keepguessing	Can anyone suggest me a solution please	21:54
zodiac19_	I mean I need a script that can run a terminal command...	21:54
bekks	zodiac19_: every script can run a terminal command.	21:54
zodiac19_	okay then... thanks	21:54
transhuman_	bekks no I am STILL ON 14.04 backed up my crap and reinstalled 14.04 after a disaster with 16.04	21:54
Rexy	zodiac19_: You should be able to set hotkeys with whatever DE your using	21:55
transhuman_	I will do 15.10	21:55
bekks	transhuman_: then just use avconv instead of ffmpeg.	21:55
Rexy	I'd search your DE + Hotkeys or something	21:55
bekks	!15.10 \| transhuman_	21:55
ubottu	transhuman_: Ubuntu 15.10 (Wily Werewolf) was the 23rd release of Ubuntu. Support ended on July 28th, 2016. See !eol, !eolupgrade and http://ubottu.com/y/wily	21:55
transhuman_	bekks I will try that is it actually the full thing or is it a basterdized version without the functionality?	21:55
zodiac19_	I keep getting the error "the script 'rotate screen' has encountered an error"	21:56
bekks	transhuman_: whatever a "basterdized" version might be. There had been a fork from ffmpeg resulting in avconv.	21:56
transhuman_	ok thanks i will try it	21:56
alesan	hello	21:57
xenialmess	still here	21:57
alesan	my apt-get update is extremely slow	21:57
alesan	it's been going on for more than an hour now	21:58
alesan	and it's not really finished yet...	21:58
alesan	any advice what I should try???	21:58
bekks	alesan: interrupt it and change mirrors.	21:58
alesan	bekks, OK but how can I chenge them? I have ssh access to that machine.	21:58
bekks	alesan: change them in /etc/apt/sources.list	21:59
zodiac19_	xrandr --output LVDS1 --rotate right	21:59
zodiac19_	is there something wrong with this terminal command?	21:59
bekks	zodiac19_: open a terminal and try.	22:00
zodiac19_	it works in the terminal	22:01
zodiac19_	just not in autokey	22:01
skinux	Anyone know of a GUI App type of some sort where I can install a web application as it's own software, including an independent web browser (and built-in web server) for it to run within?	22:01
bekks	zodiac19_: what is this "autokey" thing you are talking about?	22:01
skinux	I'm pretty sure Adobe Air was discontinued...	22:01
zodiac19_	It's a program that maps keyboard and script functions to shortcuts	22:01
alesan	bekks, should I change them all by hand???	22:02
bekks	!info autokey	22:02
ubottu	Package autokey does not exist in xenial	22:02
bekks	alesan: sure.	22:02
alesan	there's at least 25 lines with "http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/" as host/URL	22:02
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zodiac19_	i'm using lubuntu, and everytime I ask the lubuntu channel they tell me to come here	22:02
alesan	it seems strange there isn't a tool that will change them automatically	22:02
zodiac19_	should I be using something else to map this shortcut?	22:03
alesan	and which mirror should I put instead?	22:03
bekks	alesan: which one are you using currently?	22:03
alesan	"http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/" as I mentioned above	22:03
* chxgo waves hello		22:03
lordcirth	zodiac19_, you've tested that the command works in a terminal without root?	22:04
zodiac19_	it works fine if i enter it just like that in the terminal, just not when I try to use it as a script in autokey	22:04
lordcirth	zodiac19_, try launching autokey from the command line, pressing the button, and see if you get an error on the command line.	22:05
bekks	zodiac19_: so create a script, containing that command, and use your script in autokey.	22:05
minimec	zodiac19_: I suggest 'xbindkeys'. https://www.linux.com/news/start-programs-pro-xbindkeys	22:05
zodiac19_	and I start all over >.<	22:07
zodiac19_	updating apt entry >.<	22:08
bekks	zodiac19_: what for?	22:08
zodiac19_	terminal install, I just use update after I install anything	22:09
sjoshi	a/quit	22:10
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keepguessing	I am on ubuntu 16.04 and "suddenly" I see no launcher/taskbar	22:11
lordcirth	keepguessing, is it hidden if you mouse over the edge?	22:11
k1l	keepguessing: logout and try the guest account. does that work properly?	22:12
keepguessing	k1l: thanks I will check that	22:13
k1l	keepguessing: because if guest accunt doenst work, its a driver issue. if it does work its a user setting from that user.	22:13
keepguessing	k1l: yes it works	22:15
keepguessing	k1l: I have not changed anything. Except for the reset.	22:16
k1l	keepguessing: what reset?	22:16
keepguessing	k1l: dconf reset -f /org/compiz/	22:16
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codfection	hello	22:19
codfection	wifi in ubuntu is slow	22:19
codfection	how to fix?	22:19
k1l	keepguessing: login to tty (ctrl+alt+f1) as that user or start a terminal with ctrl+alt+t on the desktop. then run "mv .config .config_backup". after that relogin as the user. that should work then. then you can copy back the stuff inside .config_backup to the .config folder from the programs you want to use the old setups	22:19
codfection	windows has fast wifi.. using same internet	22:19
lordcirth	codfection, you'll need to post what wifi adapter you are using and what driver is loaded. Also what Ubuntu version.	22:20
codfection	16.04	22:21
codfection	how to know wifi adapter	22:21
codfection	cant find drivers in driver section	22:21
keepguessing	k1l: shortcuts are not working.	22:21
codfection	k1l, help!	22:21
keepguessing	k1l: when you say .config do we need ~/.config ?	22:22
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k1l	keepguessing: yes its that folder. programs and desktop settings are stored there. one of them is an issue. so renaming it to .config_backup will make it create a clean .config on relogin	22:23
lordcirth	codfection, lspci should tell you your wifi adapter.	22:23
codfection	Intel Corporation Centrino Advanced-N 6205	22:24
codfection	lordcirth,	22:24
lordcirth	codfection, also " lshw -c \| grep driver "	22:25
tardrard	Are we living in the last days	22:25
tardrard	Is there any way to install fglrx in ubuntu yet	22:26
lordcirth	tardrard, in 16.04? Not really	22:26
lordcirth	And there won't be	22:26
codfection	is it possible to run i3 on ubuntu 16.04?	22:26
k1l	tardrard: there will not be a fglrx anymore. use the open source radeon and amd_gpu if your card is new enough	22:26
tgm4883	tardrard: AMDGPU and radeon are the future	22:27
codfection	who uses amd huh	22:27
tardrard	k1l: hdmi needs scaling on my old tv	22:27
codfection	tardrard, go to display setting	22:27
tardrard	Xrandr not good	22:27
codfection	why	22:27
k1l	tardrard: amd doesnt make fglrx anymore. they make amd_gpu now.	22:28
keepguessing	k1l: I did that and the problem is still the same. I can see a lot of configurations etc is missing.	22:28
OerHeks	beta driver™ RX 480 RX 470 R9 Fury/Fury X/Nano	22:28
OerHeks	R9 M395X 390X M385 380X 360 290x 285 m270x 260x	22:28
zodiac19_	about to shoot myself, xbindkeys is not performing the command	22:28
tardrard	codfection: if it was there was the setting in the monitor I would not care	22:28
bekks	zodiac19_: create script containing your command, and run your script using xbindkeys.	22:29
lordcirth	!info i3 \| codfection	22:29
ubottu	codfection: i3 (source: i3-wm): metapackage (i3 window manager, screen locker, menu, statusbar). In component universe, is optional. Version 4.11-1 (xenial), package size 1 kB, installed size 21 kB	22:29
tardrard	keepguessing: there are no settings. Just monitor resolution	22:29
zodiac19_	I tried that already >.<	22:30
bekks	zodiac19_: can you pastebin your script then?	22:30
zodiac19_	one sec	22:31
keepguessing	tardrard: I see. What else can I try now?	22:33
bekks	tardrard: Stop calling me names in an unasked, unwanted query.	22:34
keepguessing	tardrard: k1l When I launch the command unity is starts it. but I still cannot move the windows	22:34
k1l	keepguessing: and the guest account works properly?	22:34
lordcirth	bekks, I bet it's the same guy as earlier	22:34
keepguessing	k1l: yes	22:34
xczxc	any tool for checking system file checksum against repo	22:35
bekks	xczxc: apt/apt-get does that automatically upon installing a package.	22:35
keepguessing	k1l: I am logging into guest to confirm again.	22:36
keepguessing	k1l: yes everything works fine in a guest section.	22:37
xczxc	bekks , what happen if i want to recheck all system files ?	22:37
k1l	keepguessing: so you renamed the ".config" folder in that users home?	22:37
bekks	xczxc: that cant be done that easily, because every single file doesnt have a checksum in the repos, only the packages containing those files have.	22:38
keepguessing	k1l: I did mv ~/.config /backup/	22:38
corollax_	When I select a different hardware device for sound output, I have to close and reopen my browser before it plays on the right location. How can I change this so changing the output device affects running programs?	22:39
k1l	keepguessing: did you run with sudo?	22:39
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keepguessing	k1l: Is there a log file or something I need to do.	22:39
k1l	.xsession-errors in that users home	22:39
k1l	and xorg.log in /var/log	22:39
keepguessing	k1l: I checked with an ls -la ~/.config and it said folder does not exist	22:39
zodiac19	I'll have to get the rotate fixed some other time :/ I followed all the instructions for xbinkeys and it doesnt want to work	22:41
keepguessing	k1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23090929/	22:43
keepguessing	here is the xsession output	22:43
k1l	keepguessing: "ls -al" in that users home. what does depend root?	22:44
k1l	*what is owned by root	22:45
zodiac19	thanks anyway, I'll have to read up on Xbindkeys a bit more	22:45
keepguessing	k1l: .dbus .gvfs .viminfo	22:47
k1l	sudo chown -R username:username .dbus	22:48
k1l	use your actual username there	22:48
keepguessing	k1l: thanks doing it.	22:49
blackdiaamond	anyone here?	22:50
blackdiaamond	I need help with solus installation :(	22:50
bekks	!info solus	22:50
ubottu	Package solus does not exist in xenial	22:50
bekks	blackdiaamond: what is "solus"?	22:51
lordcirth	The distro Solus?	22:51
blackdiaamond	I'm trying to install solus to a clean HDD and it always gets stuck on unmounting filesystems	22:51
bekks	blackdiaamond: So please ask the Solus support community. This is Ubuntu support only.	22:52
lordcirth	blackdiaamond, this is the Ubuntu support channel.	22:52
blackdiaamond	okay thx	22:52
Compu	https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel-lts-xenial/+bug/1614676 can someone look into this bug? i'd like to be able to play games on my computer again	22:52
ubottu	Launchpad bug 1614676 in xserver-xorg-video-intel-lts-xenial (Ubuntu) "slow performance after hardware enablement stack update, various graphical glitches" [Undecided,Confirmed]	22:52
keepguessing	k1l: same issues	22:56
keepguessing	However I see one less error in the xsession-erros file	22:56
gb_mks	Hi, i´m having problems with click-review package	22:57
k1l	keepguessing: what ubuntu is that ? 16.04? with unity?	22:57
keepguessing	16.04	22:58
gb_mks	someone can help? the error is -> ERROR: Could not find vendor 'ubuntu'	22:58
keepguessing	k1l: I think its unity.	22:58
k1l	keepguessing: is libpcre3-dev installed?	22:58
keepguessing	k1l: I will check.	23:00
blindmind	Test	23:01
keepguessing	k1l: no. I have installed it now and verifying.	23:02
blindmind	What are you installing?	23:03
keepguessing	k1l: Installing libpcre3-dev did not work. I ran the command unity and saw the following outpyt on the shell. http://paste.ubuntu.com/23090982/	23:06
stan_man_can	Whats the best way to get an up to date version of Vagrant on 16.04?	23:06
k1l	keepguessing: relogin from lightdm	23:07
stan_man_can	It ships with 1.8.1 but I need at least 1.8.4	23:07
stan_man_can	Kinda surprised it's not up to date since somewhere between .1 and .4 we're some ubuntu specific fixes	23:07
keepguessing	k1l: ?	23:07
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k1l	keepguessing: dont try to run unity. just relogin, that will start unity properly (if the issue is fixed)	23:09
k1l	keepguessing: "sudo apt install unity-tweak-tool" then run "gksudo unity-tweak-tool --reset-unity"	23:10
keepguessing	k1l: unrecognized option --reset-unity	23:14
k1l	then i dont know.	23:16
keepguessing	k1l: I ran sudo unity-tweak-tool --reset-unity and it made some changes	23:16
keepguessing	I can see boundaries for my windows.	23:16
keepguessing	and can move them now	23:16
k1l	relogin then	23:16
tari	Guys.	23:21
tari	Are u alive?	23:22
lordcirth	tari, yes, why?	23:22
OerHeks	stan_man_can, wget https://releases.hashicorp.com/vagrant/1.8.4/vagrant_1.8.4_x86_64.deb	23:22
tari	i m not feel as alive :)	23:22
llror	Hi	23:23
Compu	theyre alive for everyone except me :/	23:23
llror	Can you sync your android phone with ubuntu?	23:23
Compu	llror: what exactly do u want to sync	23:23
llror	being able to access the files etc	23:23
llror	on the phone	23:23
llror	music, etc	23:24
Compu	ah that can be done with es file explorer	23:24
k1l	llror: yes.	23:24
k1l	llror: just connect the usb cable?	23:24
Compu	es file explorer lets u run a temporary ftp server to access the files on ur phone and upload/download stuff	23:24
SparkySquirrel	tari: what's wrong?	23:25
Compu	k1l: not eveyone knows how to get mtp stuff working in ubuntu	23:25
k1l	Compu: it works ootb with nautilus	23:25
Compu	nope	23:25
llror	Ok thanks	23:25
lordcirth	A lot of things that are supposed to work ootb don't.	23:25
Compu	k1l: no u have to install a package or u just get "access denied"	23:25
k1l	ah, seems like you need to isntall mtpfs	23:26
Compu	yeah thats the one	23:26
k1l	but that is way better than running a stupid ftp.	23:26
Compu	and even then it gets picky	23:26
keepguessing	k1l: does not work. I think your estimation of "check which directories in /home/superman are owned by root" is right	23:26
keepguessing	I think some files are owned by root. even after reset	23:26
Compu	i've been waiting for weeks here for a response to my problem	23:27
tari	So, if we r alive 1866 people in here what is the purpose?	23:27
lordcirth	tari, this is the Ubuntu support channel	23:28
YankDownUnder	The purpose is to just make up numbers. No one is here to do anything constructive. (That is sarcasm, by the way)	23:28
Compu	for a support channel theres not a lot of support	23:29
k1l	keepguessing: well, "sudo chown -R user:user /home/user"	23:29
k1l	Compu: yeah, especially when users just use this channel for ranting	23:29
YankDownUnder	Compu: Patience and time. If you're relatively "new" to IRC, sometimes, answers will take days...	23:29
keepguessing	k1l: yess thats my next step. I think I started facing this after apt-get update.	23:29
tari	Yeah im using ubuntu. im @ ubuntu support channel. any support right?	23:30
k1l	keepguessing: apt update just gets a list of packages from the servers. it doesnt change anything	23:30
keepguessing	k1l: I meant upgrade	23:30
SparkySquirrel	tari: anything! but I gotta go to work or whatever with my mom so chao!	23:30
lordcirth	tari, we would be happy to attempt to help, if you stated a problem.	23:30
tari	timezone probably :)	23:31
OerHeks	Compu, don 't wait weeks to come in here, but your intel problem cannot be fixed i guess, standard intel kernel driver for your 4th generation	23:31
Compu	YankDownUnder: if by days u mean weeks then i've already been through here	23:31
SparkySquirrel	timezone is easy tari	23:31
Compu	OerHeks: so what am i meant to do?	23:31
k1l	Compu: stop ranting. ask a detailed question and people will help if they can	23:31
Compu	i did	23:31
Compu	like 3 weeks ago	23:32
keepguessing	k1l: Is the unity-tweak-tool --reset-unity command supposed to return?	23:32
lordcirth	The bug was confirmed 6 days ago, so that's progress, Compu	23:32
tari	i didnt an attempt. to setup spotify is an hour for me :) im beginner but just found this chat. '' actually chat ''	23:32
Compu	uh no it really isnt	23:32
Compu	it was only confirmed because it got a single "me too"	23:32
SparkySquirrel_	hi tari lol I accidentally closed my IRC	23:33
k1l	keepguessing: no. maybe just a new prompt. which means: nothing to worry	23:33
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SparkySquirrel_	so this timezone thing is easy, you just open gnome-terminal by pressing Alt+F2 on your keyboard	23:33
SparkySquirrel_	then you type: date and press enter	23:33
SparkySquirrel_	I mean, type this: date	23:33
SparkySquirrel_	then press enter	23:33
lordcirth	Compu, have you tried running a 16.04 liveusb to see if the driver works?	23:34
SparkySquirrel_	you'll see your current timezone as three letters	23:34
tari	im just looking for a new space.. Ubuntu great for me. No game no more childish things :p i guess i m getting older :=	23:34
SparkySquirrel_	then you can change it easy	23:34
tari	Any support :P	23:34
k1l	!ot \| tari	23:34
ubottu	tari: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!	23:34
Compu	lord4163: it's the same driver	23:34
lordcirth	Compu, ah ok	23:34
Compu	thats the entire point of the hardware enablement stack	23:34
OerHeks	Compu install 16.04 cleanly, it contains systemd and better performance.	23:34
tari	thanks ubottu.	23:35
Compu	OerHeks: and just wipe everything i have out?	23:35
SparkySquirrel_	tari: well let's join ##linux-offtopic k?	23:35
keepguessing	k1l: I do not get a new prompt. It hangs	23:35
OerHeks	if you don't have a backup, your data is not important.	23:35
OerHeks	:-D	23:35
Compu	OerHeks: or we're poor and cant afford anything to back up to?	23:35
tari	SparkySquirrel_ How?	23:35
SparkySquirrel_	erm rather #ubuntu-offtopic	23:36
SparkySquirrel_	type this	23:36
OerHeks	but read the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes first, lots of thinks to know	23:36
SparkySquirrel_	/join #ubuntu-offtopic	23:36
SparkySquirrel_	then press enter	23:36
tari	Yeah i solved.	23:36
Compu	OerHeks: upgrades never, ever go well	23:37
Compu	literally never	23:37
lordcirth	Compu, that is probably why he said to clean install.	23:37
Compu	and i know for a fact that 16.04 breaks banshee media player	23:37
i-	I have a question to ask about snapcraft - why does it only have 2 packages (from what I see)	23:38
lordcirth	Also I've had some 14.04 -> 16.04 upgrades work fine	23:38
OerHeks	.. that is your opinion, not verifyable as we cannot tell what you have added/tweaked.	23:38
Compu	lordcirth: and i would lose everything	23:38
Compu	OerHeks: i tried banshee on a brand new 16.04 install on my mom's computer and yes 16.04 definitely breaks banshee	23:38
Compu	whenever u try to import music in banshee it freezes, this doesnt happen in 14.04	23:39
Compu	in fact the same thing happened with rhythmbox	23:39
Corruptus	Anyone having trouble with 16.04 mate on a Ras Pi 3? Mine keeps crashing during setup	23:39
docmur	I'm getting this error, on my webserver: You don't have permission to access / on this server. Server unable to read htaccess file, denying access to be safe. I have the entire directory 777, I'm running ubuntu 16.04	23:40
Compu	docmur: check the permissions on the .htaccess file	23:41
docmur	-rwxrwxrw- 1 www-data www-data	23:42
Compu	docmur: what user is the webserver process running under?	23:42
lordcirth	I wonder if Apache refuses to read an htaccess that is world-writable. I know ssh does a similar thing.	23:43
docmur	www-data, but if I have it 777, that should override any user setting	23:43
Compu	and where is ur .htaccess file located?	23:43
Compu	it should be in the root of the webserver where ur index.html would be	23:44
docmur	in the web root	23:44
Compu	try restarting the webserver	23:44
docmur	I'm starting to think this has nothing to do with Ubuntu, I'm going to switch to 14.04 and try again	23:44
lordcirth	docmur, Apache problems are rarely distro-specific in my experience	23:45
docmur	I've never seen this before with any other project, and the project really doens't support 16.04 yet, so I'm going to try on the mainline for the project	23:46
avail	you know	23:46
avail	this ubuntu	23:46
avail	shit	23:46
avail	aint too hard	23:46
avail	i think i can learn	23:46
avail	how to hack	23:46
avail	in a few weeks	23:46
avail	lol. neh	23:47
Triptich	now learn how to use . and , instead of enter	23:47
marlinc	I'm not sure what's up but the /etc/mtab symlink to ../proc/self/mounts doesn't work. It says no such file or directory	23:49
marlinc	Changing the symlink to /proc/self/mounts does work however	23:49
mijk	anyone still using old releases of Ubuntu? like EOL releases	23:50
ksft-mobile	I can't connect to wifi.	23:50
ksft-mobile	I'm on 16.04.	23:50
ksft-mobile	I upgraded recently, but it had worked since I upgraded.	23:51
ksft-mobile	has*	23:51
Compu	ksft-mobile: did u check the additional drivers utility?	23:51
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ksft-mobile	Compu: It says it's using the proprietary driver.	23:52
Compu	ksft-mobile: what does the networking dropdown thing look like?	23:52
ksft-mobile	It lists the network's.	23:52
ksft-mobile	networks*	23:52
Compu	what happens when u click on one?	23:52
ksft-mobile	that was autocorrect	23:52
Compu	ksft-mobile: what happens when u click on one?	23:53
ksft-mobile	The signal icon thing flashes, and then it stops and says I'm disconnected	23:53
Bashing-om	marlinc: Why the symlink ? " sysop@1404mini:~$ ls -al /etc/mtab >> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 830 Aug 25 13:52 /etc/mtab ' .	23:54
marlinc	That's new on 16.04 apparently, systemd appears to require it	23:54
GEEMac	Hi folks, It's been almost two weeks since a fresh install of 16.04. A week since I filed a bug report. I still have to ytpe " xrandr -s 1920x1080 " at every boot up or log in. I have messed with xorg.conf, Lightdm, and even tried to place the line at startup. Still not working. Any way of saving my screen resolution? I did not have this issue in 14.04 LTS with the same computer hardware.	23:54
Compu	ksft-mobile: have u rebooted and then tried connecting?	23:55
OerHeks	ksft-mobile, what is the output of: lspci -nnk \| grep -iA2 net	23:55
ksft-mobile	I hadn't tried rebooting	23:55
ksft-mobile	trying now…	23:55
Compu	ok	23:55
ksft-mobile	well then	23:55
Compu	rebooting is always a good idea	23:55
YankDownUnder	GEEMac: You can use "arandr" to read the scripts for xrandr and have it in your login scripts...I do this...	23:55
ksft-mobile	I guess I should have tried that first	23:55
ksft-mobile	it worked	23:56
Compu	well there ya go	23:56
Compu	theres a reason "did u try turning it off and on again?" is a thing	23:56
ksft-mobile	yup	23:56
ksft	I still wonder what happened	23:57
ksft	I wasn't even using my computer when it stopped working	23:57
wiggmpk	I have an issue with resizing a window. I have a lower resolution 1366x768 and need to stretch the window. So I move it off screen and attempt to stretch it. Once I start moving the window size, it snaps back on screen and I dont have the screen space to resize it anymore. How can I disable this 'feature"	23:57
Compu	ksft: could be a number of things ranging from bugs in a driver to a cosmic ray hitting the RAM in ur computer just right	23:58
YankDownUnder	Compu: Solar flares.	23:58
GEEMac	YankDownUnder, Hi... I have no clue about how to do that. I spet almost a week reading all the old issues which realy didi not aply to 16.04. Placing anything in startup now is a bust since that is not being read either. I place three items in startup and not one of them are read. Not sure if I am going to make a bug report on that yet.	23:58
OerHeks	wiggmpk, ALT + left mouse: drag window ( or hold win key to see all options )	23:59
GEEMac	And I'm on a wireless keyboard please excuse the typos.	23:59
YankDownUnder	GEEMac: Firstly, install "arandr" => "sudo apt-get install arandr => after that, read the docs on it, you can create a "shell script" that will "reset" your default and then stick it in your autorun's	23:59
wiggmpk	OerHeks I should have mentioned I'm using gnome-shell (however I didn't get a responce in that room	23:59
dancingdemon__	what is the best windows version to run on vmplayer on ubuntu16	23:59
YankDownUnder	GEEMac: Typo's are worth donuts and coffee.	23:59
GEEMac	YankDownUnder, So wj	23:59

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