[00:07] <whoami_>  
[00:26] <DilloDroid> so why is simple file sharing so difficult in Ubuntu?
[00:26] <DilloDroid> Mac does it out of the box
[00:26] <BasketCase> Anyone running Xenial with an NFS root yet?  Care to share your kernel command line?
[00:27] <DilloDroid> yeah, that ^^ lol
[00:28] <BasketCase> not sure what you were discussing before I popped in but booting from an NFS mount is a bit beyond file sharing
[00:29] <DilloDroid> sorry, people have suggested NFS when I talked about file sharing
[00:30] <BasketCase> it can be used for that of course.  in fact it would have to be able to do that before you can try booting from it ;)
[00:30] <BasketCase> I don't even know what OSX uses
[00:31] <DilloDroid> no idea myself, but my Linux boxes can see my Mac shares just fine, but not each other
[00:31] <DilloDroid> and the Macs can't see the Linux boxes
[00:31] <DilloDroid> frustrating
[00:31] <BasketCase> if you mount one what does the mount command say about it?
[00:32] <DilloDroid> The Macs just show up as shares in Nautilus
[00:32] <DilloDroid> click on them and log in
[00:32] <DilloDroid> np
[00:32] <BasketCase> does it show what protocol is involved or translate to a local path?
[00:33] <DilloDroid> no low-level stuff at all
[00:33] <DilloDroid> just GUI in Nautilus
[00:33] <DilloDroid> (in Unity)
[00:34] <DilloDroid> right-clicking on the Mac share icon in Nautilus provides no further detail
[00:34] <BasketCase> Google seems to indicate that OSX shares are Samba shares so you would want to setup Samba server to emulate what OSX does
[00:35] <Exagone313> BasketCase: just use openssh with sftp
[00:35] <Exagone313> DilloDroid: *
[00:35] <BasketCase> I would just not use OSX :P
[00:35] <Exagone313> I'm sure there is a fuse-based program to mount sftp
[00:35] <DilloDroid> I have installed Samba and ssh
[00:35] <DilloDroid> to no avail
[00:35] <BasketCase> samba needs some setup
[00:36] <DilloDroid> I want nothing to do with the command line
[00:36] <Exagone313> command line is not scary
[00:36] <DilloDroid> making a 'static ip' or whatever?
[00:36] <DilloDroid> just should be unnecessary in Unity
[00:36] <DilloDroid> There should be a File Sharing panel in System Tools
[00:37] <DilloDroid> they need to work on that
[00:37] <DilloDroid> make it as simple as Apple
[00:37] <logical> Hi, where can i find the fonts folder ?
[00:38] <mcphail> DilloDroid: right-click -> properties -> network share on a folder in Nautilus should work
[00:38] <DilloDroid> I've done that
[00:38] <DilloDroid> the problem is that the machines don't see each other, nor can the Macs see them
[00:39] <DilloDroid> they're all connected to the same router
[00:39] <Z750> they cant 'see' them via the network gui? or they cant connect even if you enter the ip
[00:39] <DilloDroid> it's way before authorizing certain shared folders
[00:39] <BasketCase> samba is the thing that makes it show up
[00:39] <lordcirth> logical, /usr/share/fonts
[00:39] <DilloDroid> I've installed Samba
[00:40] <BasketCase> it has to be running
[00:40] <lordcirth> Also /usr/local/share/fonts
[00:41] <DilloDroid> I just opened Smb4k
[00:41] <DilloDroid> nothing showing up
[00:41] <DilloDroid> in the 'network neighborhood
[00:41] <DilloDroid> '
[00:41] <BasketCase> never heard of smb4k
[00:41] <Bray90820> How would I add a boot flag to ubuntu live USB
[00:42] <DilloDroid> As I said, they really need to add a File Sharing tool in System Tools
[00:42] <DilloDroid> anyway, thanks for all your suggestions :)
[00:43] <logical> lordcirth ty found it :D
[00:43] <melio> nothing is installing wtf.
[00:43] <melio> i just got a big red circle with a line in it. clicked it. said "there's an update!" so i said ok. deal with it. and it just sits there.
[00:45] <melio> only thing i can think of is there's a lock file from a crash still in the sources dir
[00:47] <Bashing-om> melio: What does the terminal tell you ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ' ?
[00:48] <melio> it's working
[00:48] <melio> but when i try to do printer drivers, or this update it's locking up as soon as it starts
[00:49] <melio> it's acting really strange cause terminal has no issues with apt-get. except i can't install openjre-8-sdk without -f option which seems strange too
[00:49] <Bashing-om> melio: Pastebin the errors , in context with the command(s) .
[00:49] <melio> ok
[00:51] <melio> Bashing-om, http://pastebin.com/rtEs68Ba
[00:52] <melio> should i just apt-get -f upgrade
[00:52] <melio> seems unnessicary
[00:52] <melio> i never had to fix ubuntu like this
[00:55] <melio> doing the -f option - http://pastebin.com/k3JMJm3h
[00:57] <Bashing-om> melio: Is this a 32 bit system ? or why is " libc6:i386 (>= 2.2.4) but it is not installed " required ?
[00:58] <melio> it should be a 64bit system
[00:58] <melio> lemme make sure it's highly possible i grabbed the wrong iso/usb
[00:58] <melio> Linux melio-Q550LF 4.4.0-34-generic #53-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jul 27 16:06:39 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[00:58] <melio>  HexChat: 2.10.2 ** OS: Linux 4.4.0-34-generic x86_64 ** Distro: Ubuntu "xenial" 16.04 ** CPU: 4 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4500U CPU @ 1.80GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1.98GHz ** RAM: Physical: 7.7GiB, 51.7% free ** Disk: Total: 878.6GiB, 80.4% free ** VGA: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel HDMI1: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH ** Ethernet: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. CIe Gigabit
[00:58] <melio> Ethernet ** Uptime: 12h 53m 4s **
[00:59] <melio> Bashing-om, yeah curious why an i386 arch package is part of a dependancy for anything
[00:59] <melio> i wonder if i can use depends on it
[01:00] <Bashing-om> melio: "something" installed is wanting that 32 bit library . either give it what it wants or remove what is rquiring the dependency .
[01:01] <melio> I dono what is.
[01:01] <melio> this is a brand new install
[01:01] <melio> only thing i can think of is my goofy printer driver that never finished installing
[01:03] <Bashing-om> !info libgcc1:i386
[01:03] <melio> !info libc6:i386
[01:03] <melio> so that might be a problem
[01:04] <nexusguy59> melio: I installed the frontend on xenial and one of my hosts on xenial and had no lib problems at all
[01:04] <melio> i installed chrome 64
[01:04] <melio> umm some base codecs
[01:04] <nexusguy59> ahhhhh got ya
[01:04] <Bashing-om> melio: yeah .. ok .. what results ' apt-cache policy libgcc1:i386 ; apt-cache rdepends libgcc1:i386 " . we try and get to the bottom of this .
[01:05] <melio> one sec. i'll do them each in line like before
[01:05] <Cypher-Punk> I heard Windows Vista is moar safer than Ubuntu.
[01:05] <melio> apt-cache policy libgcc1:i38
[01:05] <melio> N: Unable to locate package libgcc1:i38
[01:06] <Bashing-om> melio: True ^ ya want it as libgcc1:i386 .. gotta have that silly '6' .
[01:06] <melio> oh sorry
[01:09] <melio> Bashing-om, that rdepends statement outputs every i386 program ever made
[01:09] <melio> it's a massive list
[01:10] <Bashing-om> melio: well that is scary !
[01:11] <melio> i'm going to look in /var/log/apt
[01:11] <melio> and look in hisory to see where it pulled it in
[01:12] <melio> this is basicly a 12 hour old install. it can't be too hard to narrow this down
[01:12] <melio> last thing i installed was LSB
[01:13] <melio> I thinkt hat's the problem
[01:13] <melio> lsb has the dependacy
[01:13] <melio> Bashing-om, http://pastebin.com/j6yndSxX
[01:13] <melio> lsb must be 32bit somehow. but not?
[01:13] <Bashing-om> melio: A look at apt-cache depends libgcc1:i386, scares me too .
[01:14] <melio> we both on 16.04.1?
[01:14] <OerHeks> your update failed with http://download.ebz.epson.net/dsc/op/stable/debian/dists/lsb3.2/Release.gpg: Signature by key E5220FB7014D0FBDA50DFC2BE5E86C008AA65D56 uses weak digest algorithm (SHA1) ... so fix that first.
[01:14] <melio> this is all about getting my printer to print
[01:14] <melio> sad isnt it?
[01:14] <melio> lol
[01:15] <melio> i feel like a 60 year old man asking his kid to help me install a printer
[01:15] <melio> :P
[01:15] <OerHeks> yes, as you didn't read the error
[01:15] <cpu_abuser> lol
[01:15] <melio> I did read it
[01:15] <OerHeks> no key, no files.
[01:15] <melio> the whole reason i'm flipping out over it is because the printer install and the update freezes the process
[01:15] <asrot> hi
[01:15] <asrot> is some one there?
[01:15] <melio> OerHeks, what do you suggest?
[01:17] <OerHeks> what guide did you follow to add that epson stuff?
[01:18] <melio> OerHeks, it's the same driver i ran on 14.04
[01:18] <melio> worked perfectly
[01:18] <melio> printed, showed me nice ink levels
[01:18] <melio> had a seperate scanner but it worked too
[01:18] <melio> first time ever being able to wirlessly print from a linux laptop
[01:19] <melio> then i upgraded to 16.04.1 64bit and I tried to install my printer and now i'm here wondering why it's trying to jam in i386 libs
[01:20] <Bashing-om> OerHeks: melio Pardon me but I see " Signature by key E5220FB7014D0FBDA50DFC2BE5E86C008AA65D56 uses weak digest algorithm (SHA1)" as a warning ... not an error ??
[01:21] <OerHeks> Bashing-om, it is ..
[01:21] <OerHeks> 6 lines of text avoiding a simple question
[01:21] <Bashing-om> melio: The libgcc1:i386 requirement is of the lsb intall . per the output of the install .
[01:22] <melio> I didnt have lsb before. don't really care if it's gone
[01:22] <melio> but now sudo apt-get remove lsb doesnt even work
[01:23] <melio> OerHeks, i'm not frustrated, but resolving that issue is impossible using the add printer interface, it locks up trying to install it
[01:25] <melio> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lsb/+bug/1536353
[01:27] <TUTAYA> st
[01:27] <OerHeks> sudo apt-get install printer-driver-escpr seems to be your solution
[01:29] <melio> rigt. but my apt-get breaks every time i try to use it trying to deal with that libgc6:i386 dependancy for everything
[01:29] <Bashing-om> melio: IRT bug report; what returns ' apt list cups-filters ; dpkg -l cups-filters ' ?
[01:30] <brassbonanza> need help with a WLAN issue, anyone available to help?
[01:30] <OerHeks> yeah, that silly line in your repos is bugging you, it never installed a package so you can delete it safely
[01:30] <OerHeks> but don't say what guide you follow! ever !
[01:30]  * OerHeks is off
[01:31] <melio> Bashing-om, http://pastebin.com/Yf5veFNc
[01:32] <melio> ok OerHeks  i will
[01:33] <brassbonanza> Last night I was on here trying to ge thelp on a new build of 16.x and we effectively came to the conclusion I should just buy a wlan dongle - so I did this today found a guide online for installation BEFORE I went and bought it; came home with it and now I a m stuck
[01:33] <brassbonanza> I followed this guide http://www.humans-enabled.com/2016/03/how-to-ubuntu-1604-gnu-linux-netgear.html
[01:33] <brassbonanza> and I can get to the last command "sudo modprobe 8812au
[01:33] <brassbonanza> until I get the modprobe error: ERROR: could not insert 8812au: required key not available
[01:36] <melio> OerHeks, Bashing-om http://pastebin.com/XFW08y7P removed repo for epson
[01:37] <Bashing-om> melio: Playing catch up :)
[01:37] <melio> brassbonanza, it's a usb wireless adaptor?
[01:37] <brassbonanza> melio correct
[01:38] <melio> brassbonanza, does it show up on lsusb while plugged in?
[01:38] <brassbonanza> yes
[01:38] <melio> did you disable your inoperable wifi controller?
[01:40] <brassbonanza> let me go check
[01:41] <Bashing-om> melio: Maybe, give the system what it wants is the easier way out here ?
[01:41] <brassbonanza> under addition drivers presumably right?
[01:41] <melio> Bashing-om, breaking linux is fun! :)
[01:42] <brassbonanza> Alright I just switched to not sure the proprietary software if that was what you meant?
[01:43] <melio> brassbonanza, i have no idea what you did :P
[01:43] <melio> brassbonanza, i assume, you are disabling the wifi adaptor on your computer with a external switch if you can
[01:43] <brassbonanza> external switch functionality died when I shot windows in the back of the head
[01:43] <melio> then trying to get the computer to recognize the power of dongle
[01:44] <melio> brassbonanza, i hope that dongle is compatable with linux
[01:44] <Bashing-om> melio: Yeah .. we do get to keep the pieces .. - I broke my system enough times that I have learned not to do that .
[01:44] <melio> some of them are really cheesy
[01:44] <nexusguy59> In my case however one of my hosts does not like the keys or my keys on the front end are crap not sure which
[01:44] <melio> Bashing-om, so how do you suggest i install this dependacy
[01:44] <brassbonanza> This is why I found a guide on how to install it beforehand
[01:44] <brassbonanza> http://www.humans-enabled.com/2016/03/how-to-ubuntu-1604-gnu-linux-netgear.html
[01:45] <brassbonanza> That is the guide I followed
[01:45] <Bashing-om> melio: I think ' sudo apt install libc6:i386 ' . See what the system responds with .
[01:45] <brassbonanza> alright let me give it a shot
[01:45] <melio> i tried that Bashing-om
[01:46] <nexusguy59> {Clapping hands/Jumping up and Down} rooting for brassbonanza for shooting windows in the noggin
[01:46] <Bashing-om> melio: And what did the package manager say when libc6:i386 install attempted ?
[01:46] <melio> Bashing-om, that errors the same way
[01:46] <brassbonanza> nexcusguy59 it was long overdue
[01:46] <melio> actualy a little differnt
[01:47] <brassbonanza> except I don't have wireless access now
[01:47] <brassbonanza> ):
[01:47] <nexusguy59> Agreed brassbonanza, I did it about 5 years ago
[01:47] <melio> http://pastebin.com/30Uh5JAJ
[01:47] <nexusguy59> I am all Open Source now, if it can be done it gets done better with Linux
[01:48] <Rexy> Has anyone ever run into an issue of getting 2 lock screens? I've asked this in here a few times but I've found no fix so far
[01:48] <nexusguy59> You can partner, I have a probook hp probook 6470N i5 quad with 8 gb of ram and put ubuntu 16.04 picked my wireless right up
[01:49] <brassbonanza> @melio: I go into the folder which i gitcloned and it has several files with the tag 8812.au (what modprobe says it cannot insert) and they are '8812au.ko', '.8812au.ko.cmd', '8812.au.mod.c' '88812au.mod.o' on and on and on
[01:49] <brassbonanza> nexusguy59: That would've been ideal - but alas I am now on a dongle as on here last night we decided that my internal wlan controller was shit and probably wouldn't come back to life
[01:50] <Bashing-om> melio: Try again " 33 not fully installed:" ....  ' sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.23-0ubuntu3_i386.deb ; sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ' see now what the package manager screams and hollers about .
[01:51] <nexusguy59> lol brassbonanza well I am not sure what you have but there has to be a way there always is
[01:51] <brassbonanza> nexusguy59 I found the 'way' and it breaks because 'modprobe' can't insert '8812au' because the 'required key is not available'
[01:52] <Rexy> One lock works fine, the other doesn't lock to my user. It's the LightDM lock screen and shows the user as "Light Display Manager" rather than my user
[01:52] <nexusguy59> Ahhh got ya okay well
[01:52] <nexusguy59> That sucks then
[01:52] <brassbonanza> yep - now I am here trying to get assistance in figuring this shit out
[01:55] <melio> brb
[01:58] <aikawuran_> hello
[01:58] <aikawuran_> .........
[01:59] <aikawuran_> you ren ma
[01:59] <aikawuran_> quit
[02:00] <melio> guys. i rebooted and did a sudo apt-get update
[02:00] <melio> then a dpkg --configure ... etc
[02:00] <melio> and it wiped out the offending lsb assocations
[02:00] <melio> rebooting i think helped the lock file access
[02:00] <melio> i was right about a lock file being stuck
[02:01] <melio> it's all fixed. printing isnt but lsb is removed
[02:02] <Bashing-om> melio: :) when you re good, you are good . Printer drivers are not in my box of tools :(
[02:02] <melio> here check out my handywork
[02:02] <melio> http://pastebin.com/cyJWZRN2
[02:02] <Rexy> Printers are always a bitch to get working. Doesn't matter the OS
[02:03] <melio> in this case. the epson model i have is cursed in 16.04
[02:03] <melio> worked fine in 14.02
[02:03] <melio> 14.04.5
[02:03] <melio> basicly when i overwrite 14.04 I assumed it would be fine
[02:03] <melio> <-- wrong
[02:04] <Rexy> I'm not sure what to tell you. Might just need to tinker with it
[02:04] <melio> i'm due for a new printer
[02:04] <melio> it's only like too old. and printers are cheap
[02:04] <Rexy> That's the funny thing, Printers are cheap whilst the ink cartlidges in them are twice the price
[02:05] <melio> Rexy, i get refills now
[02:05] <Bashing-om> melio: Now bite the bullet and run ' sudo apt autoremove ' ??
[02:05] <melio> I can buy refills that work perfectly fine for my model of printer. but its worth the attempt with other printers too. but if theres an issue. its cheap to discover
[02:06] <melio> Bashing-om, I did didnt I?
[02:06] <melio> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[02:06] <melio> clean slate
[02:07] <Bashing-om> melio: Yeah ! you did .. I just missed it (autoremove) and followed my tunnel vision .
[02:11] <melio> Bashing-om, i appreciate your assist on this. same with you OerHeks
[02:12] <stan_man_can> Anyone use PlayOnLinux?
[02:12] <stan_man_can> Is it alright?
[02:13] <melio> stan_man_can, i used it a few times. its "ok" but it lacks a lot of game configs
[02:13] <Bashing-om> melio: All I did was hold your hand, ya done all the work .
[02:13] <melio> Bashing-om, yeah but walking down a road while my head is buried in my laptop requires respect for the person guiding you
[02:14] <melio> er guiding me
[02:16] <ScriptThis> What is the proper way to flush DNS in 16.04 / systemd?
[02:18] <melio> ScriptThis, http://ubuntuguide.net/flush-clean-dns-cache-ubuntu-12-04-precise
[02:18] <melio> i bet that guide works for 16.04 too
[02:23] <ScriptThis> melio: Thanks, I wonder why systemctl start dns-clean.service fails to start, though? Aren't we supposed to be using systemctl commands in 16.04?
[02:29] <felipe> oi
[02:30] <Guest62413> Hi
[02:31] <Guest62413> ok
[02:31] <Lionyx> hi
[02:31] <Guest62413> Hi
[02:31] <aryell> hi to you to :)
[02:31] <Guest62413> ok
[02:32] <Guest62413> a hacked NSA
[02:32] <Guest62413> ddos attack
[02:32] <aryell> say what ?
[02:32] <dax> Guest62413: #ubuntu is for Ubuntu technical support. For other stuff, please find another channel, thanks
[02:32] <Guest62413> hack NSA web page ddos attack
[02:33] <aryell> why ?
[02:33] <Guest62413> ok
[02:33] <Lionyx> magic words? Is he a wizard?
[02:33] <Lionyx> He's putting a spell on us =D
[02:34] <Guest62413> here click link web site page NSA error 404
[02:34] <Guest62413> http://nsa.gov/
[02:34] <thomedy> i am trying to set up a virtual host on my apache
[02:34] <thomedy> i found etc/apache2/apache.conf
[02:34] <Guest62413> ok
[02:34] <thomedy> i didn't see httpd.conf
[02:34] <thomedy> http://pastebin.com/sF43JeKm
[02:35] <Guest62413> ok
[02:35] <thomedy> that is my code for my virtual host
[02:35] <thomedy> im running localhost
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[02:38] <BenderRodriguez> whoo!
[02:38] <BenderRodriguez> party time!
[02:38] <BenderRodriguez> lol :)
[02:45] <deri> test
[02:45] <dax> success!
[02:59] <Rabbitnightmare> I know this is a little off topic for this room, but I wanted to bring to your attention that AT&T is now offering Ubuntu as a choice over Windows on tablets http://imgur.com/a/ZACRU
[02:59] <Rabbitnightmare> mindblowing
[03:00] <kLOs> can anyone help me out with smartmon and ubunutu 16.04
[03:00] <kLOs> somehow all my /dev/sda sdb etc disappeared
[03:01] <kLOs> i now have /dev/disk/
[03:03] <kLOs> ok forget it, i'm stupid appraently :)
[03:03] <beyertech> Hello friends, does anyone know why on a fairly new server running 16.04.1 LTS I keep getting this error "W: No sandbox user '_apt' on the system, can not drop privileges" after running apt-get update
[03:11] <ohjeez> who here does it with ubuntu
[03:13] <dax> what
[03:13] <Garbage> OH
[03:14] <beyertech> ?
[03:14] <Garbage> !!
[03:14] <beyertech> :(
[03:14] <tardrard> Ubuntu blew it when they messed with AMD graphic without a gui
[03:14] <beyertech> don't really care about graphics when using for servers ....
[03:15] <beyertech> so I take it no one has seen that before then?
[03:15] <Bray90820> If I already have grub installed is there a way to boot ubuntu live?
[03:22] <ubuntubastard> Hola my friends! I'm looking for someone who has a combination knowledge of EAC (Exact Audio Copy) and Wine.
[03:23] <ubuntubastard> I'm trying to install Exact Audio Copy on Ubuntu 16.04
[03:23] <ubuntubastard> it works fine when I install under wine, but my freedb server list requires something called .net framework 3.0-3.5
[03:23] <zodiac19> I can suggest trying ot use playonlinux to install exact audio copy
[03:24] <ubuntubastard> I can't seem to get it to work. I install the .net framework successfully but freedb doesn't recognize it still
[03:24] <ubuntubastard> I tried  PlayOnLinux
[03:25] <ubuntubastard> it still doesn't recognize my Freedb server
[03:25] <ubuntubastard> does anyone have any experience with EAC on wine?
[03:25] <zodiac19> don't know what to tell you then, I usually mass google my problem in a million different ways to solve my problems, but Maybe you can use Ask ubuntu?
[03:26] <BlaDe^> hi, does runsv restart just send a SIGHUP to the process?
[03:26] <BlaDe^> sorry, sv restart
[03:26] <ubuntubastard> I tried Google, nobody seems to have a problem because they all have Windows machines
[03:26] <schemanic_> hey how do I register with nickserv
[03:26] <ubuntubastard> :(
[03:26] <zykotick9> !register | schemanic_
[03:27] <schemanic_> I keep messaging nickserv but it wont identify me
[03:29] <ubuntubastard> :(
[03:29] <ubuntubastard> :(
[03:30] <BlaDe^> anyone? :)
[03:30] <BlaDe^> wondering if I can intercept and block a sv restart, basically
[03:37] <LionKing> Yo?
[03:45] -hoadley:#ubuntu- FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET !
[03:45] -pulver:#ubuntu- FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET !
[03:45] -toril:#ubuntu- FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET !
[03:45] -makam:#ubuntu- FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET !
[03:45] -hoadley:#ubuntu- FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET ! FUCK #UBUNTU! GO TO #WRONGPLANET !
[03:45] <dax> Ignore the above, it's spam. Thanks.
[03:53] <beyertech> oh really?
[03:53] <beyertech> who would've known
[03:56] <lordcirth> An odd channel to spam for
[04:00] <dax> lordcirth: (they're not spamming for it, they're anti-WP and trying to get them in trouble)
[04:09] <hal9k_> Hi guys. I'm really new to linux, but have a simple question you maybe can help me with. I have at touchscreen and i would like to have an indicator at the panel enabling/disabling touchscreen. I found out i can do it in bash by typing xinput disable or enable the ID. And I found out that you can add an indicator which launchs a command.
[04:11] <zodiac19> hal9k $ sudo apt-get update
[04:11] <zodiac19> $ sudo apt-get install touchpad-indicator
[04:12] <zodiac19> actually use this first: $ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:atareao/atareao
[04:12] <hal9k_> @zodiac19 its not for touchpad but for screen
[04:13] <hal9k_> I need some kind of simple bash command if disabled:enable if enabled:disable
[04:13] <zodiac19> sudo apt-get install dconf-editor
[04:13] <zodiac19> try that, my bad
[04:15] <hal9k_> I already god dconf-editor. I know the command to disable and enable, but not knowing bash scripting
[04:15] <hal9k_> tbh
[04:15] <zodiac19> also check your system settings, if you have a tablet option you may want to explore it
[04:16] <hal9k_> Well its just my notebook, fucking annoying with touchscreen. Are you familiar with bash scripting?
[04:17] <zodiac19> I am not familiar with bash, I'm rather new as well, however I am really good on google
[04:17] <zodiac19> maybe check this:https://autohotkey.com/board/topic/101948-device-touchscreen-disablerenabler/
[04:17] <zodiac19> https://autohotkey.com/board/topic/101948-device-touchscreen-disablerenabler/
[04:18] <hal9k_> hahahaha
[04:18] <hal9k_> Mate
[04:18] <hal9k_> you just sent me 2(!) links of windows related fixes
[04:18] <hal9k_> :D
[04:18] <hal9k_> Kinda made my day.
[04:19] <zodiac19> these programs can run on wine
[04:19] <OerHeks> lolz ..
[04:19] <hal9k_> hahahha
[04:19] <hal9k_> Dude
[04:19] <hal9k_> as i said its a command "xinput disable 9"
[04:19] <hal9k_> or enable
[04:19] <hal9k_> i dont want to wine shit
[04:20] <cfhowlett> hal9k_, drop the profanity.  this is a family friendly channel
[04:21] <hal9k_> @cfhowlett @Zodiac19 Yeah, I'm really sorry. Thank you for your try zodiac19, much appreciated (:
[04:32] <astrill> can someone help me
[04:32] <cfhowlett> !ask | astrill
[04:33] <astrill> ok well is there any difference between 14.4.4 and 16?
[04:33] <cfhowlett> yes
[04:33] <astrill> what may that be
[04:33] <cfhowlett> read the release notes
[04:34] <astrill> on 16 i am getting blackscreen alot when i load it up and login and stuff i have to go on Recovery mode so it wont blackscreen anyway to fix that
[04:35] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset | astrill start with this
[04:43] <Rexy> Any altnatives to Light-locker? I keep having cursor issues after unlocking
[04:43] <cfhowlett> Rexy, lightlocker is the default standard but I suppose you could rip it out and replace it.  not sure you wouldn't trigger dependency issues.
[04:44] <Rexy> cfhowlett: I had to manually install it, wasn't on my system iirc
[04:45] <Rexy> Ubuntu is working perfectly other than the lock screen. Have had nothing but troubles
[04:46] <astrill> how do i open my Grub in terminal
[04:46] <astrill> i forgot
[04:46] <cfhowlett> !grub | astrill
[04:48] <deathcard> gawd
[04:49] <deathcard> i have a raging boner
[04:49] <deathcard> wanna smell ???
[05:28] <astrill> i think i fixed the blackscreen problem
[05:29] <cfhowlett> nomodeset??
[05:29] <astrill> ye
[05:29] <cfhowlett> nice!
[05:30] <astrill> i hope it worked
[05:32] <hateball> nomodeset is not really a fix, more like a workaround until you fix the real problem :p
[05:39] <zodiac19> hail hydra
[05:40] <n0th1n6> o yeah
[05:59] <Nicho1as> I just found an interesting symptom of this ../xenial/../hd-media/initrd.gz; it selects the iso file of debian 8.5 rather than that of ubuntu-16.04
[06:00] <atitest> xorg
[06:01] <Nicho1as> can you affect how the installer selects the iso file?
[06:02] <Nicho1as> I just found an interesting symptom of this ../xenial/../hd-media/initrd.gz; it selects the iso file of debian 8.5 rather than that of ubuntu-16.04
[06:04] <Ben64> Nicho1as: can you explain more? that doesn't make sense
[06:07] <Nicho1as> Ben64: I have a usb memory stick that's got syslinux bootloader installed with debian 8.5, archlinux, memtest and I'm trying to add ubuntu server into the  menu
[06:08] <Nicho1as> I'm reading 'Alternate Install (Ubuntu 9.10)' from this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USB%20Installation%20Media
[06:08] <_132ikl> Hello
[06:31] <tiox> I have found myseelf in an interesting situation; I have a friend I would like to show Ubuntu to, but my system was installed on a machine that uses BIOS only, and my friend's machine uses UEFI, though I could disable secure boot to work around that.
[06:31] <tiox> If I didn't want to force BIOS on my friend's machine, what should I do to make my present install compatible with both UEFI and BIOS?
[06:32] <alkisg> tiox: do you mean to transfer your hard disk there, or some usb stick or cd?
[06:32] <tiox> I mean, to make my Ubuntu installation UEFI-capable.
[06:33] <nipnor> is this place better support than something like reddit?
[06:33] <alkisg> tiox: normally you would use the ubuntu live cd, which is uefi-capable, to boot his machine
[06:33] <hateball> nipnor: Try asking your question and find out
[06:33] <alkisg> tiox: why is *your* setup related to that?
[06:33] <tiox> If I cannot do that without breaking  support or being destructive to my system install, I would be happy with using a USB drive with an UEFI-capable bootloader to chain-boot into a BIOS system.
[06:34] <nipnor> okey... is windows 8 better than ubuntu?
[06:34] <tiox> without breaking BIOS support*
[06:34] <alkisg> tiox: what I don't understand is, you have 2 machines with 2 different disks, right? So you need 2 installations. Why are you speaking of 1 installation only? Do you plan to transfer your hard disk to the other machine?
[06:34] <hateball> nipnor: This place is for Ubuntu support, not trolling. If you want to chat go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:34] <tiox> I have two machines and I want to use the same disk on both since it's USB-connected.
[06:35] <alkisg> Right, that's the info I was missing
[06:35] <nipnor> okay, just joshing, i apologize
[06:35] <tiox> Also, no, Ubuntu si not better than Windows 8 if Ubuntu cannot support your software needs.
[06:35] <tiox> is not better*
[06:36] <tiox> A common misconception is that Linux is better always; Linux has its own set of issues, Ubuntu is no exception.
[06:36] <nipnor> that is a software developers problem for not supporting ubuntu
[06:36] <nipnor> its nothing to do with ubuntu...
[06:36] <tiox> It's everything to do with Ubuntu for the user.
[06:36] <nipnor> i know lol
[06:36] <alkisg> tiox: you can make your external disk uefi-capable, this wiki page has a section on how to enable uefi after installing to plain mbr: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI#Converting_Ubuntu_into_UEFI_or_Legacy_mode
[06:37] <jim_wang> good idea.
[06:37] <tiox> Though I do not believe this is the proper venue to go in-depth about user perceptions and differences between each system.
[06:38] <tiox> The short of it is; Ultimately, people may not be interested in Ubuntu if you cannot prove it is equally capable of the same things Windows is. Since some software is exclusive to Windows for various reasons, a user may not be convinced Ubuntu is better, and thus worth the trouble.
[06:39] <tiox> Thus not worth the trouble, rather. Yeah it's software developer's fault, but they gotta make that sweet, sweet monies and some can only do it on Windows, due to market share.
[06:40] <gambl0re> how can i free up some space on my ubuntu
[06:40] <gambl0re> like tmp files etc..
[06:41] <tiox> gambl0re: Depends on what's taking your disk space.
[06:41] <alkisg> gambl0re: `sudo apt-get clean` is one, and if `ls /boot/vmlinuz*` shows a lot of files, you can also purge the old kernel packages
[06:41] <tiox> I would start with removing downloaded files you'll never, ever have a use for again, or are confident will be available years from now.
[06:41] <tiox> And yes, those commands to remove temp files dpkg / apt grabs.
[06:41] <gambl0re> i checked my downloaded folder and its empty
[06:42] <gambl0re> trash is empty also
[06:42] <tiox> Just note if reinstalling a piece of software, apt or dpkg wil need to fetch those files again, ths cluttering your machine with package dependencies once again.
[06:42] <jarnos> Downloading does not work from download.ubuntu.ocm
[06:42] <jarnos> Downloading does not work from download.ubuntu.com
[06:42] <tiox> Is there smething similar to windirstat for Ubuntu?
[06:42] <jarnos> Downloading does not work from archive.ubuntu.com
[06:43] <xangua> tiox: what is windirstat?
[06:43] <tiox> Nevermind, there is an alternative for Linux; Baobab.
[06:43] <tiox> Is baobab still provided by default these days or are users forced to install it?
[06:44] <hateball> gambl0re: "sudo apt-get autoremove" will remove old/unneeded packages like old kernels
[06:44] <xangua> !search baobab
[06:44] <tiox> (baobab should appear as "Disk usage Analizer" in your application menu.)
[06:44] <tiox> Disk Usage Analyzer*
[06:46] <gambl0re> i ran sudo apt-get clean and it freed up only about 100mb
[06:46] <gambl0re> i only have 700mb of free space
[06:46] <tiox> gambl0re: If you don't see it, do "sudo apt-get install baobab" then after, press Alt + F2 and type in "baobab" or search "Disk usage Analyzer"
[06:46] <gambl0re> im running disk space analyzer right now
[06:46] <tiox> k
[06:46] <gambl0re> its doing its thing at the moment
[06:47] <tiox> Wherever it says most of your space is being taken, see what files there can be removed.
[06:47] <tiox> Or, if it's a bunch of system stuff, I would suggest upgrading what media you have Ubuntu on.
[06:47] <Bashing-om> gambl0re: ' dpkg -l | grep linux- ' many old kernels listed ?
[06:47] <gambl0re> im also running ubuntu inside a vm
[06:48] <tiox> But that depends on what files are there, and I don't wish to be at fault for you rm'ing the wrong stuff.
[06:48] <gambl0re> analyzer is finished running
[06:48] <gambl0re> what info would like to know
[06:49] <tiox> Some screen captiires would be nice; I believe Alt + Print Screen captures the current window, do that in baobab, save somewhere and upload.
[06:49] <tiox> screen captures*
[06:50] <tiox> (Also it has been an age since I used baobab.)
[06:55] <gambl0re> i just sent like 600mb to the trash but now when im trying to empty the trash its been trying to prepare for a while now
[06:55] <gambl0re> is this normal
[06:58] <gambl0re> hoow long does it take to prepare to empty the trash
[06:58] <gambl0re> ive been waiting for over 2mins now
[07:00] <hateball> gambl0re: if it's a lot of small files it can take a while, but minutes is a bit long
[07:00] <hateball> unless you have a slow HDD
[07:05] <tiox> When in doubt, rm -rf ~/.local/share/Trash/files/*
[07:10] <gzoo> Q: I need some help configuring my monitor for 2560x1440 with my NVIDIA graphics card. I get a max of 2560x1080 available. On Windows 7 I had to create a custom resolution from the NVIDIA panel, but no such option on the Linux menu.
[07:11] <gzoo> I realize I have to fiddle around with xorg.conf, but I need some help with that as it's been a while since I handled it
[07:11] <gzoo> I did all kinds of `cvt 2560 1440 60`, and added the modeline somewhere in xorg.conf, but I think something decided to delete the customizations for me
[07:13] <hateball> gzoo: have you tried using nvidia-settings ?
[07:13] <hateball> oh, I see now
[07:13] <gzoo> hateball, yes. It allows a resolution up to 2560x1080 instead of 1440 and I didn't find an option to create a custom resolution like I did on windows
[07:43] <zoli> hi is there a way to automatically enter password for sudo on a remote host where root login is not possible?
[07:44] <astrill> i just blackscreened again :(
[07:46] <WACOMalt> Hey folks. In general, is do-release-upgrade a safer process?
[07:46] <WACOMalt> I'm on 14.04
[07:46] <WACOMalt> *safe
[07:47] <Keitaro> hello guys
[07:47] <WACOMalt> Hi
[07:47] <Keitaro> anyone know what is the difference and how to know if a version of ubuntu is an international version ?
[07:48] <salami> WACOMalt in general, yes, but it can still fail catastrophically
[07:48] <WACOMalt> Eeee
[07:48] <WACOMalt> So basically, don't do it in production
[07:48] <Keitaro> i ask that because people says that only the international version can boot in efi
[07:48] <salami> WACOMalt well you should have a solid backup plan in production anyway?
[07:49] <WACOMalt> Well, "in production" here mean super small scale personal server
[07:49] <akik> Keitaro: no it's the same iso version for everybody
[07:49] <WACOMalt> Just runs znc and few web servers with zpanel
[07:50] <Keitaro> akik,  oki because with my version i can start ubuntu in efi
[07:50] <salami> WACOMalt then I'd just go for it if I were you...
[07:51] <Keitaro> after i take test ubuntu without install it load i see the differents led under the ubuntu name and after it blocks
[07:51] <WACOMalt> In this case, fail catastrophically though means what exactly, need physical access to the machine to fix it?
[07:51] <WACOMalt> It's off in a datacenter somewhere
[07:51] <salami> WACOMalt I once had one with a broken bootloader, so yeah
[07:51] <uebera||> WACOMalt: "catastrophically" implies that you need to be able to boot the machine using a rescue image.
[07:52] <WACOMalt> Though i do have ILO access
[07:52] <WACOMalt> So i could do that
[07:52] <WACOMalt> Hmmm. Best tool to fully backup a disk image over the network?
[07:52] <akik> kaisome video chips have problems starting the gui
[07:52] <WACOMalt> Of the whole machine
[07:53] <akik> Keitero: some video chips have problems starting the gui
[07:53] <uebera||> WACOMalt: dd|gzip|netcat ?
[07:53] <WACOMalt> Can you dd the running drive?
[07:53] <WACOMalt> I'm still very much a noob
[07:53] <codelab> codelab
[07:53] <uebera||> WACOMalt: You can.
[07:53] <WACOMalt> Ok awesome
[07:53] <salami> WACOMalt the question is, how would you restore that image back to the server?
[07:53] <WACOMalt> ILO
[07:53] <WACOMalt> i guess
[07:54] <akik> Keitaro: you can start the live dvd adding nomodeset to the kernel boot options and see if it helps
[07:55] <Keitaro> akik can you explain plz
[07:55] <Keitaro> how can i add nomo deset
[07:55] <astrill> i did nomodeset and it still does it
[07:56] <alkisg> WACOMalt: do you have enough free space on the server? if so, you can just copy everything to a subdir while it's booted...
[07:57] <WACOMalt> Not sure.
[07:57] <alkisg> WACOMalt: df -f will tell you
[07:57] <astrill> WACoMalt: what do you need help with
[07:57] <WACOMalt> Oh thanks, was just googling
[07:57] <alkisg> If you have 10 GB occupied, and e.g. 15 free, it's enough
[07:58] <WACOMalt> df -f  invalid option f
[07:58] <alkisg> df -h, sorry
[07:58] <niko> /10/scroend
[07:58] <astrill> what is h4 trying to do
[07:58] <astrill> he
[07:59] <WACOMalt> Np :p
[07:59] <alkisg> do-release-upgrade, but backup first
[07:59] <alkisg> astrill: ^
[08:00] <WACOMalt> 83% used on a 500GB drive
[08:01] <alkisg> WACOMalt: you don't need to backup /home, so don't count that
[08:01] <WACOMalt> Oh, that doesn't get touched?
[08:01] <WACOMalt> Good deal
[08:01] <alkisg> The possibility of do-release-upgrade destroying /home is very low
[08:02] <WACOMalt> Ill back that up separately
[08:02] <WACOMalt> Thats the only stuff i dont want to lose
[08:02] <WACOMalt> Can I do dd if=/home ?
[08:02] <alkisg> No, but you can do cp -a /home /target
[08:03] <akik> Keitaro: when you boot the live dvd, you'll get a menu right at the start. stop the boot process and add "nomodeset" to the line that says "linux"
[08:03] <Keitaro> you mean is the grub ?
[08:03] <akik> Keitaro: you might need to press "f6" if i remember correctly or "e"
[08:03] <akik> Keitaro: yes grub
[08:04] <Keitaro> wish line ?
[08:04] <Keitaro> i have test ubuntu without install
[08:04] <Keitaro> or install ubuntu
[08:06] <alkisg> Keitaro: https://www.maketecheasier.com/assets/uploads/2009/12/ubuntukarmic-bootup-screen.png
[08:06] <alkisg> That menu shows up if you press space very early in the boot process
[08:09] <WACOMalt> Ok, looks like home isn't too big. Under 100MB
[08:09] <juacado> join #eclipse
[08:09] <juacado> sorry :)
[08:09] <newcomer25> The whole Law is fulfilled in one statement: ‘You’ll love your neighbour as much as yourself’ - Galatians 5:14
[08:09] <newcomer25> God bless you all and have fun using Ubuntu linux!
[08:10] <WACOMalt> Is there, by any chance, a good web-based backend to let you graphically see your disk usage, similar to WinDirStat on Windows?
[08:10] <WACOMalt> Probably asking for too much
[08:10] <Keitaro> after pushing e i have some text
[08:10] <Keitaro> set params and splash
[08:10] <WACOMalt> I'm sure there's a whole lot I don't need
[08:34] <viktor133> hi all. my lenses in ubuntu dash aren't working to search files (any sort) and folders, only applications. any suggestions?
[08:35] <aryell> hello
[08:35] <aryell> just stopping by to see how is everyone doing ...
[08:35] <aryell> :)
[08:38] <Netek> msg nickserv identify netek27801l
[08:38] <Netek> no way hah
[08:39] <hateball> Netek: have you changed password?
[08:39] <Netek> hateball I am trying to figure out how
[08:40] <Netek> ok it changed
[08:40] <Netek> woot
[08:41] <hateball> Netek: consider setting up automatic auth in your client
[08:41] <Netek> hateball yes I need to do something heh.  Nearly had a heart attack when I saw the login text in the wrong color hah
[08:43] <tripelb> My 16.04 os computer, suddenly, can't see any wifi. What did I do last? alt-get update, then alt-get upgrade. It is 16-04
[08:43] <FinalX> Netek: what I always do when I haven't put it up as automatic, is go to my status window to auth. That way when you mess up, it has nowhere to go.
[08:43] <Netek> FinalX yes normally I do it like this but for some reason I did it on the wrong window.  I think it is because I didnt have coffee yet :)
[08:43] <sohail-ahmed> I am unable to any irc server through any client can some body please help?
[08:44] <blackflow> Netek: which irc client are you using?
[08:44] <sohail-ahmed> irssi and pidgin
[08:45] <Netek> blackflow hexchat
[08:45] <k1l> sohail-ahmed: whats the error? does hexchat work?
[08:45] <blackflow> Netek: then it should be very easy to set up sasl with password so you auth automatically
[08:46] <sohail-ahmed> I dont have hexchat installed but I can if its required. Here is the irssi error Unable to connect server open.ircnet.net port 6667 [Network is unreachable]
[08:47] <k1l> sohail-ahmed: are you sure that url is right? and that the irc network is working?
[08:47] <sohail-ahmed> previously pidgin was working perfectly....
[08:47] <k1l> sohail-ahmed: seems, like that irc network is down. doesnt work for me, too
[08:47] <sohail-ahmed> How do I know irc network is working?
[08:48] <Netek> brb I see if this works
[08:48] <sohail-ahmed> I just want to connect chat.freenode.net throught pidgin or irssi
[08:49] <Keitaro> generally how much swap do we need on ubuntu ?
[08:49] <Keitaro> 1 or 2 gb ?
[08:49] <k1l> sohail-ahmed: you said ircnet not freenode
[08:49] <Netek> I think it worked :)  Thanks for the push in the right direction blackflow I would have never known that was there
[08:49] <k1l> sohail-ahmed: ircnet seems to be down. so use freenode and that should work
[08:49] <brunch875> I want to install django but the package uploaded in the repositories isn't the latest version. Is it a bad idea to install it via pip instead?
[08:49] <sohail-ahmed> I thought freenode is a server name on irc
[08:49] <k1l> Keitaro: swap=ram size
[08:50] <blackflow> Netek: yw. note that more security paranoid would suggest SASL with a pubkey, but password over encrypted connection works just fine (just make sure you're connecting ecnrypted).
[08:50] <k1l> sohail-ahmed: freenode is an own irc network. its a different one from ircnet.net.
[08:50] <Netek> blackflow sure.  Now I need this coffee to wake me up a bit, brb heh
[08:50] <sohail-ahmed> I am sorry for being too noob but when I do /connect chat.freenode.net ...its not connecting too
[08:51] <k1l> sohail-ahmed: what is the error?
[08:51] <Keitaro> ki1 i have to take 32 gb of swap ?
[08:51] <blackflow> k1l: seriously? swap = RAM size? So if I have 32G of RAM, I should set up 32G of swap?
[08:51] <Keitaro> it looks like a lot
[08:51] <sohail-ahmed> Unable to connect server chat.freenode.net port 6697 [Network is unreachable]
[08:51] <Keitaro> k1l
[08:51] <blackflow> Keitaro: personally I'd keep 1-2 GB around to push out unused pages which are often present, esp. if you have many dektop-y programs running
[08:52] <blackflow> Keitaro: the swap = ram size applies only if you want to hibernate
[08:52] <k1l> blackflow: Keitaro the only thing that really needs a correct amount of swap size is hibernation. and that needs swap=ram. if you dont want o use hibernation then you can set it to what you want.
[08:52] <Keitaro> oh oki
[08:52] <tripelb> My 16.04 os computer, suddenly, can't see any wifi hotspots and there are many around. . What did I do just before? alt-get update, then alt-get upgrade. also I had added the gnome-classic applicatiin menu to unity. - switched to 14.04 kubuntu and all is well. how do I fix 16.04?
[08:53] <Keitaro> oki i see thx
[08:53] <unnamed_> hello guys
[08:53] <unnamed_> can someone help me , via pm with some basic ubuntu commands
[08:53] <k1l> !pm | unnamed_
[08:53] <unnamed_> :[
[08:53] <sohail-ahmed> Unable to connect server chat.freenode.net port 6697 [Network is unreachable]
[08:53] <bazhang> try the manual unnamed_
[08:53] <Netek> ok so I have written a script that informs our clients if their services are up or down (web server, ftp server, mail server and so on)  Would it be in any way a security threat displaying this information to the public or should it be kept private?
[08:54] <unnamed_> how do i .............. see.......... the ....... host names that have connnected to my ubuntu
[08:54] <Netek> sohail-ahmed change port to 6666
[08:54] <bazhang> !manual | unnamed_
[08:54] <Netek> so /connect chat.freenode.net:6666
[08:54] <sohail-ahmed> Unable to connect server chat.freenode.net port 6666 [Network is unreachable]
[08:54] <unnamed_> !manual
[08:54] <Seveas> unnamed_: in general: you don't. If there is a specific service you're interested in (such as ssh or http), you can generally check the logs of that daemon.
[08:54] <unnamed_> ok..
[08:55] <bazhang> !rute | unnamed_ and these links too
[08:55] <unnamed_> surely theres a way
[08:55] <k1l> sohail-ahmed: is your internet firewalled?
[08:55] <Netek> sohail-ahmed maybe you are banned..  can you telnet chat.freenode.net port 6666
[08:55] <sohail-ahmed> I don't think so
[08:55] <bazhang> unnamed_, read all those links given
[08:55] <Seveas> sohail-ahmed: try port 6667
[08:56] <Netek> sohail-ahmed these are freenoce servers and ports you could try out http://irc.netsplit.de/servers/?net=freenode
[08:56] <unnamed_> Question :   without going over 1 gig .  what essential programs/software is a MUST have ?
[08:56] <unnamed_> im connected v ia my phone
[08:56] <sohail-ahmed> Trying 2a00:1a28:1100:11::42... Trying 2001:6b0:e:2a18::118... Trying 2610:150:3b0f::2... Trying 2a01:270:0:666f::1... telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Network is unreachable
[08:56] <tripelb> oh no, my applicatiins menu in gnome-classic DE on kubuntu is blank. Is therr some way I can get the normal menu items to come back/reappear ?
[08:56] <k1l> sohail-ahmed: try a ssl port: 7070
[08:56] <Seveas> sohail-ahmed: try an ipv4 address. Maybe your ipv6 setup is broken.
[08:57] <Rarrikins> sohail-ahmed: Does 139.162.227.51 work?
[08:57] <unnamed_> !rute
[08:57] <grimel> Hi, all. Can I somehow get the list of packages, removed recently, sorted by the date of removing?
[08:57] <unnamed_> !manual
[08:57] <k1l> sohail-ahmed: oh, that seems like an ipv6 issue on your setup
[08:57] <bazhang> unnamed_, theee are plenty of websites of what to do first/install once you get ubuntu installed
[08:57] <unnamed_> I know the essential cmd
[08:58] <unnamed_> more security
[08:58] <bazhang> http://ubuntu-manual.org/ unnamed_
[08:58] <bazhang> read that first
[08:58] <unnamed_> done
[08:58] <sohail-ahmed> Yes it is a dns problem..... \connect 139.162.227.51 worked.... but now how can I resolve the dns problem for my irssi client.... my browser is working correctly
[08:58] <bazhang> its a pdf unnamed_
[08:59] <blackflow> sohail-ahmed: it's not dns problem but ipv6 problem, force your client to use ipv4 connections
[08:59] <blackflow> or find out why ipv6 doesn't work
[08:59] <sohail-ahmed> so my client is not configured to use ipv6 adrresses??
[09:00] <Rarrikins> sohail-ahmed: No, your client is configured to use IPv6, and IPv6 doesn't work.
[09:00] <blackflow> I don't know what the problem is, but "network unreachable" suggest that the ipv6 address is unreachable, and you have to find out why.
[09:00] <Rarrikins> sohail-ahmed: You need to use IPv4.
[09:01] <sohail-ahmed> can you please tell the google term to search??
[09:01] <Rarrikins> sohail-ahmed: Force irssi to use IPv4
[09:02] <sohail-ahmed> thank you every body for your time and effort ... I really appreciate
[09:02] <blackflow> sohail-ahmed: it's not that simple. just use ipv4, but if you want to figure out why ipv6 doesn't work, first you start by checking AAAA records of chat.freenode.net, then you ping6 each to see if basic ipv6 networking works, and if doesn't check if your local ipv6 is correctly configured, or try mtr.
[09:02] <viktor133> could somebody help me with my lenses? they only find files i already opened before...
[09:02] <tripelb> oh no, my applicatiins menu in gnome-classic DE on kubuntu is blank. Is therr some way I can get the normal menu items to come back/reappear ?
[09:03] <akik> sohail-ahmed: you can tell your linux to prefer ipv6 connections by editing /etc/gai.conf (precedence lines)
[09:03] <akik> sohail-ahmed: sorry, prefer ipv4 connections
[09:04] <blackflow> in a world where ipv4 is depleted and we're struggling to push over to ipv6, I find advice to just use ipv4 appalling. Rather, find out why ipv6 doesn't work and fix that.
[09:05] <tripelb> i fixed it. ediy menu has restore default.
[09:05] <tripelb> :-P
[09:05] <Dro> is it safe to upgrade from ubuntu 14.04 to 16.04.1 ?
[09:05] <Grorco> hey I'm running mate and my help menu for my games just pop up saying URL cannot be shown. Any idea on a fix?
[09:05] <Dro> should i update or backup anything?
[09:05] <Seveas> blackflow: and in a less purist world we just use what works. if ipv6 doesn't work, then don't use it.
[09:05] <viktor133> Dro, yes, but always back-up anyway
[09:06] <Dro> ok
[09:06] <blackflow> Seveas: I'd agree with you, but in this case we need to solve that chicken-egg problem with ipv6, and going the route of less resistance ain't gonna help :)
[09:06] <Seveas> grimel: you can look in /var/log/dpkg.log
[09:07] <Seveas> blackflow: I'm 100% meh on ipv6. ipv4 isn't depleted by a long shot, all you'll see now is that people will start selling unused ipv4 blocks at a big premium.
[09:07] <unnamed_> how do i become a l33t hax0r i just wana be er33t
[09:08] <Seveas> unnamed_: repeatedly hit alt+f4 untill you feel l33t.
[09:08] <grimel> Seveas: I already found a better alternative - /var/log/apt/history.log, it has better representation, but thank you anyway
[09:08] <bazhang> unnamed_, try the chat channel for that
[09:08] <unnamed_> ahh ive fallen for that before.1! it just closes the program!
[09:08] <unnamed_> :D
[09:08] <unnamed_> ok thanks
[09:08] <Seveas> grimel: that may be incomplete: packages may have been deleted with dpkg instead of apt, those actions don't show up in the apt logs :)
[09:09] <Wanderer-> Im trying to change the owner of my external hard-drive which is currently owned by root to my user account but i cant. Do the drive need to be unmounted ?
[09:09] <salami> Seveas ISPs are switching over customers to DSLite and similar crap en masse, for those IPv6 is the only way around crappy NAT
[09:10] <Rarrikins> Wanderer-: What filesystem is on it?
[09:10] <Seveas> salami: or getting a better isp.
[09:10] <Wanderer-> Rarrikins, its an NTFS filesystem
[09:10] <salami> Seveas for many that is not an option
[09:10] <grimel> Seveas, ok, I'll have a closer look to dkpg.log)
[09:10] <Seveas> salami: only in italy
[09:10] <blackflow> Seveas: while this is not theh channel for this discussion, you know what I meant :) exactly that it's sold out to companies who can now skyrocket the prices, is what "depletion" means in this case.
[09:11] <Seveas> at least, I haven't heard of any other countries where carrier grade nat is so popular
[09:11] <blackflow> and APNIC already has ipv6 only connections because there it _literally_ is depleted.
[09:11] <Rarrikins> Wanderer-: Are you automounting it or manually mounting it?
[09:11] <Seveas> Wanderer-: NTFS doesn't understand unix permissions, they are emulated as mount options.
[09:12] <Wanderer-> Im automounting it, i removed the nosuid option if that matters
[09:12] <Seveas> blackflow: apnic has no connections, it just sells ip space. For asian companies, their only option now is to buy ip space on the free market instead of from apnic.
[09:12] <Wanderer-> Well the reason i need to do it is because some of my torrents cannot resume their state on deluge, because the files are owned by root, running deluge as root doesnt solve the issue
[09:13] <Rarrikins> Wanderer-: The first few answers to this question seems to handle it: https://askubuntu.com/questions/113733/how-do-i-correctly-mount-a-ntfs-partition-in-etc-fstab
[09:14] <Wanderer-> ok let me try that
[09:15] <jeron> msg Nickserv
[09:15] <k1l> Wanderer-: did you try chown the mountpoint?
[09:15] <jeron> fuck
[09:16] <Wanderer-> i did not try to chown the mountpoint k1l , is that recommended ?
[09:16] <Rarrikins> jeron: Best to always do that in the status window.
[09:17] <k1l> Wanderer-: yes.
[09:18] <jeron> Rarrikins: can you tell it's been a while since I've used IRC haha
[09:18] <jeron> it says my nick is registered but it hasn't changed my user or anything
[09:18] <jeron> so meh
[09:18] <Wanderer-> k1l, should i recursively chown the mnt? or unmount everything, chown it to my user and then remount ?
[09:19] <Guest10178> \help
[09:19] <jeron> Guest10178: try forwardslash
[09:19] <k1l> Wanderer-: chown the mountpoint when unmounted.
[09:21] <jim> hi... how can I find out if ttf-mscorefonts-installer is a package in ubuntu, if so what packages does it depend on and what packages depend on it?
[09:21] <Rarrikins> jim: apt show ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[09:22] <frudo> hi
[09:22] <jeron> hi
[09:22] <netvixtra> hi
[09:22] <jeron> hi
[09:22] <bazhang> jeron, do you have an ubuntu support issue
[09:23] <jeron> bazhang: no idk why I'm here actually
[09:23] <jeron> I just installed smuxi and it took me here
[09:23] <bazhang> jeron, try the chat channel then
[09:23] <Grorco> I just realized I cant change the colors on hexchat :(
[09:23] <jeron> okeydokey
[09:23] <Bayangan> hi... how can i change Polari header-bar (csd) in ubuntu (Unity). its too small.
[09:24] <bazhang> #hexchat can help with that Grorco
[09:24] <frudo> what is best tool for check data transfer in aws instance..
[09:24] <Grorco> bazhang, thanks, one thing at a time though
[09:25] <Bayangan> is there any css style to change headerbar height
[09:27] <blackflow> frudo: I'm sure aws has monitoring and graphing of that, but you could use something like vnstat on your machine to track the traffic yourself
[09:28] <Grorco> any ideas on why programs trying to add to the all help menu wouldn't be successful?
[09:32] <wolfmoon> Hello
[09:32] <wolfmoon> I have a question
[09:32] <hateball> !ask
[09:33] <wolfmoon> Will I be able to get the Ubuntu phone on a contract or is it cash-only?
[09:34] <VladimirVolkov> 1
[09:35] <Keitaro> why after installation and after my login i only see the wallpaper and my mouse i can't select nothing there is nothing on the destop
[09:35] <bazhang> !phone | wolfmoon
[09:35] <Keitaro> but i still can do ctrl alt F1
[09:35] <VladimirVolkov> Hello. I need someone help to give me web link on ubuntu forum where discussing about difference server and desktop version.
[09:36] <Wanderer-> Keitaro, have you tried startx ?
[09:36] <Ben64> VladimirVolkov: the difference is the gui really
[09:36] <wolfmoon> ubottu: thank you for the help!
[09:36] <Ben64> Wanderer-: startx isn't the right way to do anything on ubuntu
[09:36] <bazhang> VladimirVolkov, ubuntuforums has a search item, try it
[09:37] <Wanderer-> Ben64, ive always solved my issues with that, including when i sometimes get locked out after switching users
[09:37] <VladimirVolkov> bazhang: thanks buddy! I thounght so too. The soft are the same in all distros.
[09:37] <Keitaro> Wanderer-, yes
[09:37] <Keitaro> there is a error
[09:38] <Wanderer-> are you sure you have installed ubuntu desktop?
[09:39] <Keitaro> when i do sudo startx in tty i come bacck in the ubuntu but with the same background wallpaper
[09:39] <Ben64> don't do startx
[09:40] <blackflow> especially not sudo startx :)
[09:40] <hateball> Hard to grasp for some, it seems
[09:40] <VladimirVolkov> bazhang: If I want to setup a desktop ubuntu with i3wm, can I do this task using ubuntu server image?
[09:40] <bazhang> Keitaro, startx is not the right way to do it
[09:40] <Keitaro> and my mouse is replace by a cross
[09:40] <Keitaro> oki
[09:40] <Keitaro> what shoud i do plz ?
[09:40] <bazhang> VladimirVolkov, or get the mini iso and build up
[09:41] <bazhang> !mini | VladimirVolkov
[09:41] <nagarjung> hi could anyone help me with the IRC channel for ubuntu mirrors?
[09:41] <VladimirVolkov> bazhang: It seems to do install process like archlinux or gentoo.
[09:42] <VladimirVolkov> ubottu: ok
[09:42] <hateball> nagarjung: #ubuntu-mirrors
[09:42] <VladimirVolkov> !mini | VladimirVolkov
[09:43] <jim> hi, apparantly the package ttf-mscorefonts-installer fails to download the font files,,, is this a known issue?
[09:43] <bazhang> jim is via the terminal
[09:43] <ducasse> VladimirVolkov: i'm running ubuntu with i3 and installed from the server image. works just fine.
[09:44] <bazhang> jim you need to agree to the eula for those
[09:44] <jim> does the package do that?
[09:44] <bazhang> tab over to ok and then return jim
[09:45] <VladimirVolkov> ducasse: ok. i'm regular slackware user, but for job perpose i need try out ubuntu.
[09:45] <blip-> Hi all, after rebooting my work PC - I'm getting resolution of 1000xsomething, reinstalled nvidia drivers but they dont seem to load.   ubuntu drivers screen http://imgur.com/a/OjsbR nvidia-settings error http://termbin.com/59v3 'sudo lshw -C display' shows no driver in configuration http://termbin.com/y9ay   lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 vga http://termbin.com/8cya
[09:45] <jim> bazhang, it's not me... I'll get the person to come here
[09:45] <bazhang> thats what I had to do at least jim, but I get the full ubuntu restricted extras
[09:45] <VladimirVolkov> !systemd | VladimirVolkov
[09:46] <VladimirVolkov> ubottu: 1
[09:46] <jim> bazhang, how does one agree to the eula?
[09:46] <bazhang> VladimirVolkov, please open a PM iwth the bot
[09:46] <bazhang> tab over to ok and hit return if in the terminal jim
[09:48] <jim> bazhang, you mean while installing the package?
[09:48] <nagarjung> thank hateball
[09:48] <nagarjung> thank you*
[09:49] <ducasse> jim: if he has missed the prompt, he should get it again if he runs dpkg-reconfigure on the package iirc
[09:49] <Rarrikins> 05:42 < lieven> majest1c: when you flip the orientation, the integral changes sign. similar to int_a^b = - int_b^a
[09:49] <Rarrikins> 05:42 < t0by> cheeseboy, this is ##math, surely there's people with actual degrees and people with publications, even, that are willing to check it out if you ditch your code for a second and we look at the actual solution
[09:49] <jim> let me find out... hang on
[09:49] <Rarrikins> 05:43 < t0by> once we are sure of that we'll look at the code.
[09:49] <Rarrikins> 05:43 < majest1c> lieven How would I know what sign it should have in the first place?
[09:49] <Rarrikins> Sorry.
[09:50] <VladimirVolkov> ubottu: !gnome | VladimirVolkov
[09:50] <bazhang> VladimirVolkov, PM the bot Please
[09:50] <k1l> VladimirVolkov: please do that in a pm with the bot.
[09:51] <bazhang> VladimirVolkov, /msg ubottu gnome
[09:51] <contumax> hi, ubuntu 16.04 + mailcow - is it possible to change the directory where mails are stored?
[09:51] <rexwin_> what RAID level is used in bigger organizations?
[09:51] <bazhang> rexwin_, how could we know that
[09:52] <rexwin_> widely used?
[09:52] <bazhang> rexwin_, thats not an ubuntu support issue
[09:52] <bazhang> try ##linuc rexwin_
[09:53] <bazhang> also ##linux
[09:53] <jim> rexwin_, raid levels are chosen due to their characteristics and what use they would be put to... example, a database needs a lot of random access, and I think 10 is suitable for that, and 5 is not
[09:54] <ghost_> hello
[09:56] <Utsav_Chokshi>  /join #kolibrios
[10:00] <Keitaro> someone knows how i can fixe my problem ?
[10:00] <Keitaro> i am stock after my login on ubuntu and see nothing ^^
[10:00] <Keitaro> thx in advance
[10:02] <Danawar> Keitaro: http://askubuntu.com/questions/477542/ubuntu-14-04-only-wallpaper-and-a-mouse-cursor-is-showing
[10:02] <Keitaro> thx Danawar i will check that
[10:03] <k1l> Keitaro: restart lightdm
[10:03] <k1l> dont use startx. make sure in that users home .Xauthority and others dont belong to root:root now but to user:user
[10:04] <kristian_on_linu> hi
[10:04] <kristian_on_linu> anyone else getting this stuff when updating: W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package python-cffi-backend-api-max ?
[10:05] <Keitaro> it said after i wrote restart lightdm fail to connect to upstar
[10:05] <sai_rongzhj> Someone knows better console font in tty other than terminus ?
[10:05] <k1l> Keitaro: what ubuntu is that?
[10:07] <Keitaro> the last one
[10:07] <Keitaro> 16.04 i think
[10:07] <k1l> lsb_release -sd
[10:07] <k1l> that will tell you which version exactly
[10:08] <Keitaro> 06.04LTS
[10:08] <k1l> sudo systemctl restart lightdm
[10:09] <Craigwell> ok, so a recent update for 14.04 broke my broadcom wireless (surprise, surprise). It's using the STA driver. Anyone encounter this? I've tried remove/reinstall etc and nothing
[10:09] <Keitaro> k1l, done
[10:09] <Keitaro> i log in again ?
[10:09] <Danawar> Yes
[10:10] <k1l> yes. if that is still broken do it again and try the guest account and see if that works
[10:10] <Keitaro> still a full purple screen with only my white mouse
[10:10] <Craigwell> tried the stuff in here https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2130853 and no dice
[10:11] <Craigwell> BCM94322
[10:15] <x_XP> Hi guys, I wonder if I can get help here with setting up SSD to be use in MacBook Pro to run OsX  using Ubuntu USB thumb drive.
[10:15] <k1l> if you want to run osx you might better ask the apple guys for that
[10:16] <Keitaro> k1l, it doesn't work still a perfect purple screen
[10:16] <k1l> Keitaro: ok, so what did you do before that happened?
[10:16] <Keitaro> but there us a flashy box that flash all the time saying there is a wi fi signal or something
[10:16] <Keitaro> hard to read ...
[10:17] <Danawar> Keitaro: I'd run sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop unity compizconfig-settings-manager upstart next but best check with the others
[10:17] <k1l> Keitaro: and the guest account didnt work?
[10:17] <Netek> I dont believe this.  I just went and bought a new Laptop Dell Inspiron 5000 Series with corei7, 8GB RAM and all that.  I just connected to the internet and the ethernet has a limit of 100Mbps..  WTF....  I have an Acer laptop which is about 5 years old and this has 1GBps ethernet -_-  In other words this laptop cannot handle the top speeds of our internet connection -_-
[10:17] <Danawar> Keitaro: Also do you have an nvidia graphics card?
[10:18] <Netek> I thought 100Mbps ethernet speeds were outdated????
[10:18] <Craigwell> netek: Did you verify specs before purchase? Or ..before posting?
[10:19] <k1l> Netek: look at what exact card is in use and if that needs special handling on linux due to the manufacturerer not sticking to the standards
[10:19] <Craigwell> netek: Do you have a new cat 5e or cat 6 cable?
[10:19] <Netek> Craigwell no I didnt, as I assumed that these days all modern laptops came with 1GB as standard.  I learnt something new -_-
[10:19] <Keitaro> Danawar, yes i have
[10:19] <Keitaro> GTX 950 M
[10:19] <Netek> Craigwell well I connected same wire to other laptop and I reach the full 300Mbps connection, I connect this one and I get 100Mbps
[10:20] <Netek> after looking at the dell website it states its 100Mbps
[10:20] <Netek> what a waste of 1200EUR
[10:20] <Craigwell> netek: funny if it has wireless AC and 100m ethernet haha
[10:21] <Netek> Craigwell :P
[10:21] <Netek> I do a wifi test
[10:21] <Netek> brb
[10:21] <Craigwell> http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/inspiron-15-5547-laptop/pd
[10:21] <anup> hello
[10:21] <Craigwell> netek: says 10/100 ethernet
[10:21] <Craigwell> haha
[10:22] <mcphail> Netek: this isn't a channel for chat about your purchase. Please keep this channel for Ubuntu support issues.
[10:22] <Craigwell> AC is an option, along with N
 there is small problem Mac people told me that SSD is Fu***d but I manage to boot on Ubuntu USB than install Ubuntu 16.04 on this MBP SSD  and run it
[10:22] <Danawar> Keitaro: This is what i am looking at maybe trying some things;
[10:22] <Danawar> Keitaro: http://askubuntu.com/questions/449845/problems-after-upgrading-to-14-04-only-background-and-pointer-after-login
 Than I booted it back on USB Ubuntu drive, used gparted to formatted this SSD to HFS+ than tried to install Mavericks OS, but install or Mac disc utilities could not see this drive
[10:23] <k1l> x_XP: that is  why you need the help of the apple guys. we cant tell you why apples os got that issues
[10:24] <x_XP> k1l thanks mate
[10:24] <Craigwell> x_XP: Sounds like it doesn't like Grub.
[10:24] <Netek> mcphail well I am using Ubuntu on the laptop and was at first wanting to check if it was hardware or software issues with ubuntu.  Obiously now it is proven to be the hardware
[10:25] <Keitaro> Danawar, apt-get doesn't work it said can't resolve the name
[10:25] <Craigwell> x_XP: or HFS+. Try with EXT4
[10:25] <Keitaro> because i use wifi and i can't onfigure it
[10:25] <x_XP> Craigwell  format it with EXT4?
[10:26] <ducasse> x_XP: that won't help you, os x can't be installed on ext4
[10:26] <Craigwell> x_XP: I would try that, sounds like install / mac disc don't like HFS+
[10:27] <k1l> Craigwell: that is nonsense. hfs+ is the apple filesystem
[10:27] <Danawar> Keitaro: I think you should be able to use the original install media a CD or USB stick to reinstall items like unity etc
[10:27] <x_XP> Craigwell but when ubuntu was running on it os x install disk did not see this drive and Ubuntu is EXT4 isn't it?
[10:28] <Danawar> Keitaro: Additionally if purging Ubuntu drivers that may have been downloaded Ubuntu should fall back.
[10:28] <Keitaro> Danawar, you mean that i reinstall ubuntu totally ?
[10:28] <k1l> x_XP: or aplle blacklists some ssds or hdds. please ask the apple guys. we cant help you since its not a ubuntu issue
 Keitaro: and the guest account didnt work?
[10:28] <Keitaro> because when i install i had to use nomodeset
[10:29] <Keitaro> k1l, same effect in guest account than in my account
[10:29] <Danawar> Keitaro: Not at all but you can install packages/libraries off the media if they have been removed accidently.
[10:29] <k1l> Keitaro: ok, so its an driver issue. can you boot an older kernel in grub?
[10:29] <Keitaro> no
[10:29] <jianu81> hi guys
[10:29] <Keitaro> i have only this one
[10:29] <jianu81> can i load ubuntu to the ram ?
[10:30] <x_XP> Craigwell:k1l: I was using this SSD on this MBP for 2 years then recently it apparently died but i can load and run UBUNTU from it ???
[10:30] <Keitaro> i just dl the last iso for a dualboot on my new computer
[10:30] <ducasse> x_XP: you're in the wrong channel, we cam't help you
[10:30] <Keitaro> notepad asus
[10:30] <k1l> Keitaro: so its a clean install?
[10:30] <Keitaro> yep
[10:30] <k1l> Keitaro: did you try nomodeset?
[10:30] <viktor133> jianu81, if you start the computer with ubuntu as OS it is loaded into the RAM...
[10:30] <Keitaro> yep
[10:31] <k1l> Keitaro: and?
[10:31] <jianu81> i meant
[10:31] <Keitaro> because my install didn't work i do nomodeset
[10:31] <jianu81> kinda like puppu linux
[10:31] <Keitaro> and i can install
[10:31] <jianu81> or parted magic
[10:31] <Keitaro> otherwise the install was freezing
[10:31] <k1l> Keitaro: keep in mind we only know what you tell us. if you dont tell us we need to guess. and guessing is always not a good base for support.
[10:31] <Craigwell> x_XP:k1l: Sorry, I was confusing with ZFS as I'm not an Apple boy
[10:31] <Keitaro> yes sorry*
[10:31] <k1l> Keitaro: then try it again to use nomodeset
[10:32] <viktor133> jianu81, you mean without installing it onto the harddrive?
[10:32] <Craigwell> I was thinking you used ZfS instead of EXT4 for the ubuntu partition and that install wouldn't see it for some reason
[10:32] <x_XP> Thank you all I got l lazy and give up on Ubuntu for MAC few years back now
[10:32] <k1l> jianu81: use the ubuntu usb?
[10:32] <Keitaro> nomodeset yes i can try
[10:32] <Craigwell> I was reaching a bit in an attempt to help *shrug*
[10:32] <jianu81> yeah
[10:32] <jianu81> but can i save the data ?
[10:32] <Keitaro> you mean try to do a clean install with nomodeset again ?
[10:32] <k1l> Keitaro: no
[10:32] <jianu81> on the usb ?
[10:32] <k1l> !nomodeset | Keitaro try the one time solution explained here
[10:33] <viktor133> jianu81: sure, but it won't work quite as well. other distro's might be more suitable for that
[10:33] <x_XP> Craigwell: what would be relevant Mac channel  ?
[10:33] <jianu81> any suggestions for tht ?
[10:33] <jianu81> that ?
[10:33] <viktor133> jianu81: when you run it (ubuntu) for the first time it's like that
[10:33] <jianu81> parted magic worked
[10:33] <ducasse> !alis | x_XP
[10:33] <jianu81> but tharpup didn't
[10:34] <viktor133> jianu81: not familiar with tharpup
[10:34] <k1l> jianu81: the ubuntu live system loads totally to the ram. is that what you want?
[10:34] <jianu81> yeah
[10:34] <jianu81> i kinda wanted a portable arcade game machine
[10:35] <k1l> jianu81: then use a ubuntu usb and make that persistent
[10:36] <hateball> Keitaro: no need to reinstall, but you have to use nomodeset for your installed version as well uintil you add a proper driver
[10:37] <hateball> Keitaro: and if you want to add the latest working driver for your chipset from !ppa then here is a oneliner: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa && sudo apt update && sudo apt install nvidia-370
[10:38] <Keitaro> oki thx
[10:38] <Danawar> hateball: Problem is he has no internet :(
[10:38] <Danawar> so may have to lan it
[10:38] <hateball> Danawar: oh. that does indeed complicate things
[10:38] <Keitaro> i will  try all that after my lunch thx
[10:38] <hateball> Danawar, Keitaro : but should be able to download the needed packages from ppa, as well as dkms from official repos in case not installed
[10:40] <R13ose> I am getting this error: http://pastebin.com/1X7S0kwt in the Update Infromation - KDE Daemon, how do I fix this?
[10:41] <olmari> I'll come here as I'm running 16.10 and don't want to make any type of "official" bug report yet...
[10:41] <hateball> !ubuntu+1 | olmari
[10:41] <olmari> allrighty :D
[10:44] <Na3iL> R13ose, what version of Ubuntu?
[10:45] <R13ose> Na3iL: Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS
[10:45] <Na3iL> Try this : sudo apt-get install --reinstall ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[10:45] <k1l> R13ose: install that package ttf-mscorefonts-installer manually with apt. you need to check the EULA manually to make that work.
[10:46] <R13ose> k1l: I did install this, and I thought I did check the EULA.  Even so, why do I need this package and do I use this?
[10:46] <k1l> its the microsoft font package. and some programs (like wine) need that
[10:46] <R13ose> Na3iL: why do I need to reinstall this.  I think I did that once before, and the error message still came up.
[10:47] <R13ose> k1l: as far as I know wine is not installed.
[10:48] <Afdla> which program is responsible for changing active monitors when docking/undocking laptop?
[10:48] <k1l> apt-cache rdepends ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[10:49] <R13ose> k1l: http://pastebin.com/BDkLa5T0
[10:56] <k1l> R13ose: libreoffice is one of those packages for example
[10:57] <R13ose> k1l: yes but I use libreoffice as my main office suite.  Are you saying all of these use that package?
[10:57] <blip-> hi, nvidia drivers got messed up after reboot.  I can no longer use my work desktop (1000xsomething resolution).   can anyone walk through fixing this with me ?  spent few hours already
[10:58] <k1l> R13ose: for compatibility reasons with MS office, yes
[10:58] <R13ose> k1l: that is fine with me but how do I get the error to go away?
[10:58] <k1l> R13ose: sorry, need to go afk for work. maybe other can help
[10:59] <R13ose> k1l: no worries
[10:59] <hateball> blip-: what drivers are you using? what type of gpu setup? hybrid or single? custom xorg? etc
[10:59] <k1l> R13ose:  run the install on that package again and make sure to check the eula. that is a common issue with that package
[11:00] <hmigeek> blip-: login into cli (Ctrl + Alt + F1) and run lspci -k checkout your graphic kernel driver in use
[11:01] <R13ose> k1l and Na3iL: I did the command "sudo apt-get install --reinstall ttf-mscorefonts-installer" and this reinstalled.  The only thing I noticed was this "mscorefonts-eula license has already been accepted"
[11:05] <Phryq> is there a way to install Ubuntu onto a USB disk from Ubuntu without first downloading an ISO?
[11:06] <ducasse> R13ose: there have been others in her today with problems downloading those fonts, could be a problem with the server
[11:06] <ducasse> *in here
[11:06] <R13ose> ducasse: was that person, me?
[11:07] <ducasse> R13ose: don't remember, but it was several hours ago
[11:08] <ducasse> R13ose: anyway, i've had the same problem myself before, and it worked fine the next day
[11:09] <R13ose> ducasse: this has been going on for awhile.
[11:10] <ducasse> R13ose: just a thought.
[11:10] <R13ose> ducasse: I know but this error is not going away.
[11:11] <Na3iL> You solved your problem R13ose ?
[11:11] <R13ose> Na3iL: nope, did you read what I wrote above?
[11:11] <ducasse> R13ose: if you run /usr/lib/msttcorefonts/update-ms-fonts, does it complete successfully?
[11:11] <Na3iL> Nope, sorry I was AFK
[11:12] <Na3iL> oh, I get it
[11:13] <R13ose> ducasse: when I run that command, I get this: http://pastebin.com/XB59zqhD
[11:15] <ducasse> R13ose: ok, so it can't actually find the font-files, but thinks they are installed. you could try a purge and reinstall, other than that i'm not sure.
[11:16] <fredson``> hi everybody. any ideas how to squeeze another 36M off my /boot-partition for an 14.04.-> 16.04. update?
[11:19] <ducasse> fredson``: remove a kernel you don't need?
[11:21] <smong> I did that
[11:21] <smong> and deleted all kernels
[11:21] <smong> :(
[11:22] <R13ose> ducasse:  I did the command "sudo apt-get install --reinstall ttf-mscorefonts-installer" and this reinstalled.  The only thing I noticed was this "mscorefonts-eula license has already been accepted"
[11:24] <ducasse> R13ose: just a reinstall is different from a purge and install, it should try to download the fonts again if you do that.
[11:25] <R13ose> ducasse: what command do I use for that?
[11:25] <ducasse> R13ose: 'sudo apt-get purge ttf-mscorefonts-installer && sudo apt-get install ttf-mscorefonts-installer'
[11:28] <kikero> Hello! I have Ubuntu 16 LTS running on my laptop. Recently, my Internet started working very slow.
[11:28] <kikero> The speed is inconsistent, sometimes it works fine, sometimes it doesn't.
[11:29] <kikero> I've looked into the Chrome Developer Tools, I get a few 200 requests and then lots of them pending for ~ 10 seconds. This happens with quite a few websites, but not with all (youtube works fine, for example). It also happens when loading pages from my localhost.
[11:29] <blip-> hmigeek, hateball: thanks, i got it fixed just by disabling UEFI secure boot option in the bios.  funny since i never touched any bios or driver settings in the last 6 months
[11:30] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[11:30] <ikonia> kikero: is this wired or wifi
[11:31] <ikonia> and by not working do you mean "no internet at all"
[11:31] <kikero> ikonia: wifi. no, internet is working, but some requests are pending for a really long period of time.
[11:32] <R13ose> ducasse: I did that and the only thing I notice is many of these happen: http://pastebin.com/x4wbAV5d
[11:32] <ikonia> is it always the same requests, or random ones
[11:33] <kikero> if I refresh my localhost, I get 10 out of 59 requests processed immediately with the 200 status, and the rest are pending for ~ 10 seconds, after which they get downloaded. does this have something to do with dns?
[11:34] <ducasse> R13ose: that looks like a bug to me, but i though this was fixed. have you done an 'sudo apt-get update' recently?
[11:35] <R13ose> ducasse: yes I believe so
[11:35] <ducasse> R13ose: in that case i think you should report it. do you know how to do that?
[11:36] <R13ose> ducasse: is there already a bug report for this?
[11:36] <ducasse> R13ose: there was a bug for apt on this, i'm pretty sure
[11:37] <R13ose> ducasse: can you link me to that?  I can add a comment to that if I figure out how.
[11:37] <asar> guy help me out
[11:38] <amnix> Hi. I just bought a new SSD. I installed ubuntu on it but it's not booting off it for some reason. Can someone please help?
[11:39] <asar> i always get this error. even if i fix, it shows up the next day E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/download.opensuse.org_repositories_home:_Horst3180_xUbuntu%5f16.04_Packages
[11:39] <ducasse> R13ose: try this one https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/msttcorefonts/+bug/1575408
[11:39] <fredson> mmmpf ... dark magic kicked me out ... so bother u again.
[11:39] <fredson> any ideas on how to free 36M on /boot for an update? no lvm of course.
[11:41] <dezmoi> fredson: is it safe to say that you currently only have one linux image loaded?
[11:42] <R13ose> ducasse: done
[11:42] <melio> i got a lot of help here last night that helped me sleep, thank you #ubuntu
[11:42] <R13ose> ducasse: is there anything else I can do or have to wait for this bug to get solved?
[11:42] <ducasse> R13ose: then all you can do is hope it gets some attention. the more affected users, the sooner it gets fixed.
[11:43] <R13ose> ducasse: thanks.
[11:43] <melio> R13ose, my printer doesnt work in 16.04.1 properly without a hack that has issues with breaking apt/apt-get functionality
[11:43] <R13ose> melio: hacking oh no
[11:44] <SuperCat> 47.78
[11:44] <amnix> Anyone?
[11:44] <SuperCat> quiit
[11:44] <melio> yeah throwing i386 arch stuff to function on a 64bit arch os
[11:44] <melio> that kinda driver stuff is really unstable
[11:45] <dezmoi> amnix: Need more info
[11:45] <R13ose> ducasse: I am going to go and wait on this bug getting fixed if possible.
[11:45] <amnix> dezmoi: Can I show you the output of any command for more info?
[11:46] <melio> and with new patches it broke it and caused gui software lockups when trying to install. and console apt/apt-get had unresolvable dependencies, the lockups caused lock files too. i had to reboot just to remove dependant files linked to tons of stuff lsb installed to try to employ the hack to make the printer stuff work.
[11:46] <VladimirVolkov> Hey yo, should I compile custom kernel in ubuntu server when i want alsa support?
[11:46] <dezmoi> amnix: are you using GRUB?
[11:46] <fredson> dezmoi: mmh, dpkg --list | grep linux-image | wc -l is giving me 9 ; does that mean i can purge old ones, doesn't it ?
[11:46] <melio> ducasse, being patient with new releases is why it is safe to wait a while before upgrading from 14.04 to 16.04.1 which i was reluctant about
[11:47] <dezmoi> fredson: Yes.  purge what youre not using
[11:47] <amnix> dezmoi: yes i went with the normal ubuntu installation. didn't change anything
[11:48] <ducasse> melio: 14.04 is supported for 3 more years, there's no hurry if you don't need newer software.
[11:48] <dezmoi> fredson: uname -r
[11:49] <dezmoi> fredson: Keep whatever is listed there
[11:49] <mcphail> VladimirVolkov: why do you want a custom kernel? Generally, Ubuntu kernels are already built with a ton of modules compiled
[11:49] <dezmoi> fredson: plus the extras and maybe the one before that one as a back up
[11:50] <dezmoi> amnix: I am trying to help but don't know where to start.  You've updated your boot order, right?
[11:51] <ducasse> VladimirVolkov: alsa works fine with the standard kernels
[11:51] <amnix> dezmoi: yes
[11:51] <amnix> dezmoi: these are some messages that show up when i boot from a live usb http://paste.ubuntu.com/23088685/
[11:51] <fredson> dezmoi: destruction sequence in progress :--------> :D
[11:52] <multifractal> i installed smuxi irc client with software centre. how can I find the command to start it from terminal? it's not `smuxi` I tried that.
[11:53] <dezmoi> amnix: No dual boot?
[11:53] <amnix> dezmoi: no its a new ssd. i just installed ubuntu on it. and its not booting.
[11:53] <multifractal> and the process name associated with smuxi is `mono-boehm` according to system monitor
[11:53] <ikonia> kikero: refresh your localhost ? you mean refresh the browser ?
[11:54] <kikero> ikonia: yes, making my browser load a page served by my local apache2 installation.
[11:55] <ikonia> kikero: local apache 2
[11:55] <ikonia> kikero: you said this was wifi problems/interent problems
[11:55] <kikero> yes
[11:55] <ikonia> now it's a local apache2 install ??
[11:55] <kikero> dude, listen to me.
[11:55] <ikonia> I am listening to you, you've just changed the problem totally
[11:56] <dezmoi> multifractal: use "$ irc"
[11:56] <kikero> I explained that it's the same behaviour for both pages from the Internet, loaded through wifi and pages that I am loading from the server I have installed on my machine.
[11:56] <dezmoi> multifractal: I am pretty sure thats the command
[11:56] <kikero> Thing is, it's not "http://localhost", it's "http://mylocalfakedomain.com".
[11:57] <kikero> i.e. local domain name
[11:57] <ikonia> so ?
[11:57] <ikonia> what is the resolver for your fake domain name ?
[11:57] <multifractal> dezmoi no it says 'The program 'irc' can be found in the following packages:* epic4* epic5* ircii Try: sudo apt-get install <selected package>'
[11:57] <kikero> I added the domain in the sites-available file and in /etc/hosts
[11:58] <VladimirVolkov> ducasse: no. i have ubuntu server + i3wm+icecat+pulseaudio+alsa-utils But no sound from youtube)
[11:58] <ikonia> kikero: ao I'm failing to see what this is proving
[11:58] <kikero> kikero: well, if I go to youtube, which is a website I use a lot, it works.
[11:59] <VladimirVolkov> ducasse: May be there is method to trace or strace to enable sound
[11:59] <ducasse> VladimirVolkov: the problem is not that the kernel lacks alsa support, because it has that
[11:59] <kikero> I'm downloading with 4MB/s. Thing is, it sometimes takes a lot before processing a request. In other situations, it downloads it instantly.
[11:59] <lordcirth> multifractal, apt-file list smuxi | grep bin
[11:59] <kikero> ikonia: so I'm guessing that it may have something to do with DNS fetching (?)
[12:00] <ikonia> kikero: but you're not using dns on your internal test, as you're using /etc/hosts
[12:00] <VladimirVolkov> ducasse: Has ubuntu server alsa support in its kernel? I have installed server version not desktop
[12:00] <statusfailed> Where does the "last" command get the time a user logged out ?
[12:00] <ducasse> VladimirVolkov: same kernel.
[12:00] <statusfailed> I don't see it in the utmp file format
[12:00] <VladimirVolkov> there is no zcat /proc/config.gz
[12:00] <VladimirVolkov> ducasse: there is no zcat /proc/config.gz
[12:01] <ikonia> statusfailed: wtmp I think
[12:01] <ducasse> VladimirVolkov: 'ls /boot/config*'
[12:01] <VladimirVolkov> ducasse: OK. thanks.
[12:02] <statusfailed> ikonia: but they follow the same format
[12:02] <ducasse> VladimirVolkov: check with pavucontrol that the right output is active and not muted
[12:02] <statusfailed> and there is no "exit time" information in the utmp/wtmp format
[12:02] <statusfailed> afaict
[12:03] <multifractal> lordcirth: it came up with http://pastebin.com/dsyNqse2
[12:03] <ikonia> maybe not then,
[12:03] <k1l> VladimirVolkov: yes, ubuntu supports alsa. but uses pulseaudio as standard on most desktop seutps
[12:05] <fredson> dezmoi: apt-get purging a couple of linux-image-* did it. thanks.
[12:06] <kikero> ikonia: ok. do you have any idea what could be, then? or what steps I could take to figure this out?
[12:10] <ikonia> kikero: tcpdump the intereface and wait for it to go slow
[12:10] <ikonia> kikero: but them when you do "localhost" you're using a physcial interface anyway
[12:10] <wsky> do any of you guys use indicator-multiload?
[12:10] <wsky> i got this issue that besides the graphs it shows text cpu use percentage to the right of the graphs
[12:10] <wsky> i want to turn it off
[12:11] <wsky> but i see no such option in the menu
[12:12] <wsky> ok i actually got it
[12:14] <melio> ducasse, that's a very good suggestion - i haven't really configured and installed much usable software due to problems - but 3 years seems like a good reasonable timeframe to let 16.04.1 mature with bug fixes
[12:15] <Blueer> hey. is it possible to restrict the access for non root users for "/proc/self/mounts"? i don't want that other users can see the harddisks and mounts. hidepid=2 for proc doesn't helped.
[12:16] <melio> downloading and installing 14's latest image
[12:16] <melio> be back later. thank you #ubuntu for very logical resolutions to problems - expert advice here is appreciated very much.
[12:17] <hateball> blip-: that secure boot thing with nvidia is a bug, it should be fixed with the latest drivers found in the PPA iirc
[12:17] <dezmoi> Blueer: chmod
[12:17] <hateball> blip-: since they now have KMS support
[12:17] <leeyaa> hello
[12:17] <dezmoi> hi
[12:17] <leeyaa> what is the recommended cluster resources manager nowadays on Ubuntu
[12:18] <leeyaa> i know that heartbeat is deprecated
[12:18] <leeyaa> so i guess corosync ?
[12:18] <Blueer> dezmoi: chmod: changing permissions of ‘/proc/self/mounts’: Operation not permitted -> other permission changes in proc work
[12:20] <avail_> 		say i wanted to ..... borrow...	
[12:20] <avail_> a neighbours.....
[12:20] <avail_> password...
[12:25] <dezmoi> Blueer: /proc/self/mounts is generated from the kernel.  I thought it was just a link to a file.
[12:26] <kni> Hi, running 16.04 here with 16GB ram. My system tends to use swap space even when there is still free memory available (according to free/htop etc). Any idea what might cause this? i tend to blame VMware workstation
[12:26] <hateball> kni: you can try adjusting vm.swappiness
[12:26] <blackflow> kni: how much swap? some of it is normal, even if you have plenty of free ram
[12:26] <SwedeMike> kni: that's normal behaviour. If there is memory that hasn't been used for a very long time, it might get swapped out to instead use it for block cache.
[12:27] <SCollins> kni: Whats its typical RAM usage?
[12:27] <kni> hateball: i did already set it for tests to 10 and later 1
[12:27] <statusfailed> ikonia: you're probably not interested, but it turns out logins/logouts are stored as different lines in utmp format, if you find a login, you have to search ahead for the corresponding logout
[12:27] <statusfailed> that's how "last" works
[12:28] <slystone> Hi!
[12:28] <kni> SwedeMike: 16GM ram and 16GB swap is configured. right now, after uptime of 6 hours it is using 2GB swap already
[12:28] <slystone> I want to make a script print in the Ubuntu panel.
[12:28] <blackflow> kni: changing swappiness will not page in already paged out stuff. did you reboot between tests?
[12:28] <slystone> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/05/how-to-display-network-upload-download.html ← I've found this ppa.
[12:28] <kni> blackflow: i dis- and reanbled swap while playing with swapiness to make it work
[12:29] <blackflow> kni: also, do you have transient, short-lived processes that consume much more RAM than you think watching htop between those runs?
[12:29] <slystone> It does the job, but maybe this function is already included in Ubuntu 16.04. What do you think?
[12:29] <kni> blackflow: hard to answer, my main usage is having 2 vm's running and 2 browsers on the host itself - plus some terminals
[12:30] <SwedeMike> kni: that's a lot, but it depends on the applications you're running.
[12:30] <SwedeMike> kni: if some memory isn't used by anything, it might get swapped out.
[12:31] <kni> SwedeMike: a lot applications or a lot swap? ;)
[12:31] <hateball> slystone: I dont run Unity myself but it seems there should be an applet for something so simple
[12:31] <SwedeMike> kni: having 2G swapped out is a lot, especially after 6 hours. But it all depends on what you're running on the machine. It's not unheard of.
[12:31] <kni> according to free i do have >2GB available ram right now, but only 0,2 GB free - still 2GB is swapped. Just to give you some numbers
[12:32] <hateball> slystone: Or you could use conky perhaps
[12:32] <SwedeMike> kni: please pastebin the output from free
[12:32] <blackflow> kni: maybe this would help: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-which-process-is-using-swap/
[12:32] <kni> blackflow: tried that already - was not helping but i gonna paste that as well
[12:32] <kni> gimme some time ...system is slow ;)
[12:33] <blackflow> kni: didn't help? didn't give you a picture of which procs might be using lots of swap?
[12:33] <kni> regarding free output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23088793/
[12:34] <slystone> hateball: I thought of conky. But I'd gladly use something that already exists.
[12:34] <SwedeMike> kni: that's a lot of buff/cache used. I don't see why it would swap that agressively.
[12:34] <slystone> I just want to print the result of simple python script in the Ubuntu panel.
[12:35] <kni> regarding who is swapping: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23088801/
[12:37] <blackflow> huh. would VMs be listed there? remind me, there _is_ a process per VM running, correct?
[12:38] <kni> yes for each vm
[12:38] <kni> i am somehow completly unsure so far what might cause the swapping at all
[12:39] <kni> besides that i am for sure running a big footprint in general, but the system isn't that bad either
[12:40] <chl_> hey, does anyone know if isc-dhcp reserve a static defined host, if said host's lease has expired?
[12:40] <ikonia> the lease won't matter if it has a satic definition
[12:41] <chl_> ikonia: so its discarded from a dynamic range/pool?
[12:42] <blackflow> kni: well, some swap usage is a good thing. it becomes a problem if the system starts paging in and out more often
[12:42] <chl_> say I have 192.168.0.2 - 192.168.0.254, and 192.168.0.3 is a static/fixed host, will 192.168.0.3 be discarded from the pool?
[12:44] <blackflow> chl_: I don't think so. If you want to mix dynamic and static like that, better define a dynamic-only range for dhcpd
[12:44] <kni> blackflow: i do feel lags - or in other words short freezes
[12:44] <kni> so this is far beyond good ;)
[12:44] <chl_> blackflow: thank you, I was expecting that too
[12:45] <blackflow> kni: vmstat will tell you if what si/so (swap in / swap out) is during those laggy times
[12:45] <slystone> Aight, got my answer (notify-send).
[12:46] <kni> blackflow: so you would recommend running 'watch vmstat' for a while to monitor the output?
[12:47] <blackflow> kni: don't need watch with vmstat, just give it a delay, eg.  `vstat 5`
[12:47] <blackflow> *vmstat
[12:47] <kni> blackflow: i seem not to be that used to vmstat usage - should it report pids?
[12:47] <blackflow> nope
[12:48] <kni> right now i do see a single line with general swap free buff values similar to free
[12:48] <kni> and free is again using vmstat if i remember right
[12:49] <blackflow> kni: ?
[12:50] <kni> isnt free using vmstat in the background to catch its informations?
[12:50] <kni> blackflow: seems like i have to read a bit about vmstat ;)
[12:50] <blackflow> no I think it uses /proc/memstat
[12:51] <v0lksman> hello all!  where does awstats put the HTML files of reports when using the awstats package?
[12:51] <blackflow> *meminfo sorry
[12:51] <aluskonik> i have some problem with nvidia drivers and steam, can somebody help figure out it
[13:00] <mmeth> Hi. I installed windows and lost grub. On which partition should I install grub to?
[13:01] <mmeth> can I install it to the ubuntu partition and then add that to windows boot menu/BCD?
[13:01] <SwedeMike> mmeth: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[13:06] <mmeth> thanks SwedeMike but this doesn't touch my question
[13:07] <SwedeMike> mmeth: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#Reinstalling_GRUB_2 install on MBR.
[13:10] <badp> hi guys, I've been having screen flickers on my external DisplayPort monitor ever since I upgraded to 16.04. Nothing relevant shows up on dmesg or anywhere in /var/log. I noticed it happens most often when using function keys with terminator :/
[13:13] <Afdla> badp: I have exactly the same problem
[13:13] <Afdla> I've noticed it happens usually when I switch focus to other program like pressing alt+tab
[13:13] <badp> Afdla: Intel GPU?
[13:13] <Afdla> I don't know which one this laptop has
[13:13] <Afdla> ah its intel
[13:13] <Afdla> i5
[13:14] <badp> it's getting difficult to restrain myself from embedding my fist into this monitor :/
[13:14] <RickyB98> i'm trying to configure vsftpd so that whenever i *file* is uploaded, its perms are 664, while whenever a *directory* is created, its perms are 775.. how can i do that?
[13:14] <badp> (I replaced monitor and cables, and I still have it)
[13:14] <Afdla> I seem to get the flickers when using CTRL/ALT/SHIFT or just switching focus to another program
[13:14] <Afdla> and it's random
[13:14] <Afdla> sometimes happens, sometimes not
[13:15] <Afdla> can't reproduce consistently
[13:15] <badp> yeah
[13:15] <Afdla> it only happens on my primary monitor though, not the secondary
[13:15] <badp> is it connected by displayport?
[13:16] <Afdla> yes
[13:16] <badp> yeah, I've changed monitors and cables, but it's still always the displayport monitor
[13:16] <Afdla> hmm have you tried dvi/hdmi then?
[13:17] <badp> I have another monitor on DVI
[13:17] <Afdla> me too
[13:17] <badp> but I guess I could just go HDMI instead of DP
[13:18] <Afdla> I only have VGA+DVI+DP on my laptop dock :/
[13:18] <Afdla> I guess I could use vga
[13:18] <kamar> hi there
[13:18] <kamar> anyone online?
[13:19] <abu_shawarib> Hi
[13:19] <hateball> !help | kamar
[13:20] <kamar> i cant setup wifi-hotspot in ubuntu 14.04LTS. It says AP mode not supported but im able to setup in windows with same device
[13:20] <kamar> what to do?
[13:21] <dezmoi> kamar: are you able to manually change the modes on your wifi card?
[13:21] <guest7860> check here niggers: http://goatse.info
[13:22] <blip-> test
[13:23] <blip-> hateball, thanks re "that secure boot thing with nvidia is a bug, it should be fixed with the latest drivers found in the PPA iirc. since they now have KMS support".    I thought it was the design of secure boot itself that was poor
[13:25] <kamar> @dezmoi....have tried with "iwconfig wlan0 mode master" and it throws error "Error for wireless request "Set Mode" (8B06) :     SET failed on device wlan0 ; Invalid argument."
[13:26] <badp> Afdla: and I just found out I only have VGA/DVI/DP as monitor inputs
[13:27] <acresearch> people i despiratly need help, I lost a file in my desktop, i need it back. can anyone help me? I think i deleted it in my trash but it is not there.
[13:28] <Speed09> acresearch, is your drive in ext4? ?
[13:28] <acresearch> Speed09: yes
[13:29] <k1l> how did you delete it?
[13:29] <Speed09> look at this thread: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/122305/undelete-a-just-deleted-file-on-ext4-with-extundelete
[13:30] <leo-ren> good morninrg :)
[13:30] <abu_shawarib_> Anyone having this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1542733
[13:30] <Speed09> good morning leo-ren !
[13:30] <acresearch> k1l: my desktop was flooded with directories when i accedently tried to download a database, i deleted them with my directory, now when i search the trash i cannot find my directory (i have a lot of directories from the database but not mine)
[13:31] <leo-ren> what happened with php5?
[13:31] <d0lph1n98> where can i get precompiled old linux kernel? the initrd and vmlinuz
[13:31] <VladimirVolkov> what is the differs between ubuntu and debian?
[13:32] <Speed09> VladimirVolkov, Ubuntu is a Debian Based distro.
[13:32] <k1l> VladimirVolkov: different release tiemframes, different handling of packages and PPAs and 3rd party repos and non free stuff.
[13:32] <acresearch> Speed09: how can i use extundelete (from the link you sent me) to restore a file i deleted from my desktop?
[13:33] <k1l> acresearch: are you sure its not in the trash? there should not be a reason why this was handled differently
[13:33] <Speed09> acresearch, extundelete /dev/YourDrive --restore-file path/to/deleted/file
[13:34] <acresearch> Speed09: my drive? i deleted it from my computer's desktop
[13:34] <Speed09> acresearch, si check what is the name of your drive where your os is running
[13:35] <acresearch> Speed09: how?
[13:35] <streulma> Package temperature too high cpu throttling, bug between kernel and ASUS BIOS
[13:35] <streulma> I have this on Ubuntu all the time
[13:36] <Speed09> acresearch, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-command-list-mounted-devices-in-terminal/
[13:37] <acresearch> Speed09: /dev/sda2      ext4             106G   11G   90G  11% /
[13:37] <acresearch> is this this one Speed09 ?
[13:38] <acresearch> Speed09: is this my root directory?
[13:39] <Speed09> acresearch, idk, it's your computer, not mine
[13:39] <acresearch> people i really despiratly need help, I lost a file in my desktop, i need it back. can anyone help me? I think i deleted it in my trash but it is not there.
 acresearch: are you sure its not in the trash? there should not be a reason why this was handled differently
[13:40] <_KaLiF> Hi..!
[13:41] <k1l> acresearch: there is no reason why it should not be in the trash like every other folder/file you deleted from the desktop. so either you deleted it manually (like holding shift for full delete) or its either on the deskstop still or in the trash
[13:41] <acresearch> k1l: i think because i deleted 1060 files and it is one of them
[13:41] <k1l> acresearch: then look carefully into the trash
[13:42] <acresearch> i searched for it, but it is not there, let me explain what happened
[13:43] <acresearch> i tried to download a database into a folder in my desktop using terminal, but i accedently executed the command outside the folder to the MASSIVE amount fo folders in the database got downloaded into the desktop. i deleted them all then realised i have an important work file there. all the foldered have 2 letters except my folder, i searched for it, it is not there
[13:43] <acresearch> k1l: i searched several time, i restarted my computer and searched again, it is not in the trash
[13:44] <k1l> how did you delete those files from the desktop? with the terminal?
[13:44] <acresearch> no with fn backspace,  all these files are in the trash except my file
[13:45] <k1l> does "ls -al ~/Desktop" list that file?
[13:47] <hateball> blip-: well one can have opinions about secure boot regardless :p
[13:47] <acresearch> k1l: https://da.gd/7Be1
[13:48] <k1l> acresearch: does "ls -al ~/.local/share/Trash/" list that file?
[13:49] <k1l> if its not there you can look at "ls -al ~/.local/share/Trash/files"
[13:50] <acresearch> k1l: no
[13:50] <acresearch> k1l: it is not there either
[13:51] <acresearch> k1l: is there a limit to how many files the trash can store?
[13:51] <k1l> no
[13:54] <logical> hi ppl, is it possible to install calendar from gnome 3 (like fedora) on ubuntu-mate?
[13:54] <Mitchell92> Hello. I have a notebook I bought for class. I have TLP installed to hopefully maximize battery life. Is this widely recommended or is there another software package available that will help me get even more out of the battery?
[13:54] <acresearch> k1l: any ideas?
[13:54] <k1l> acresearch: so you moved/deleted that file manually differently?
[13:55] <acresearch> i selected all and pressed fn backspace to move to trash
[13:56] <zetheroo> I can do 'sudo nano /home/user/file.txt' with no issue, but if I try with 'sudo cat << EOF > /home/user/test.txt' I get a 'Permission Denied' reply
[13:56] <k1l> zetheroo: the sudo doesnt work with pipes
[13:57] <acresearch> k1l: i selected all and pressed fn backspace to move to trash
[13:57] <akik> zetheroo: use "sudo tee /home/user/test.txt" to create the file
[13:57] <zetheroo> k1l: ah ok
[13:57] <k1l> zetheroo: and sudo should not be used at all in users home
[13:57] <zetheroo> akik: ok, will give that a shot
[14:00] <acresearch> k1l: any ideas?
[14:04] <acresearch> k1l: please help?
[14:04] <vigh_> guys, a noob question, I've installed pip, then installed a package using it (called udemy-dl), and whenever I try to run udemy-dl, I get command not found, how can I fix that?
[14:04] <k1l> acresearch: well. logically that file should be either in that trash folders or still on the desktop
[14:06] <akik> zetheroo: use "sudo -u username" if you need the file's ownership defined
[14:06] <vicatcu> Hi I'm running a distribution upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 and I foolishly / accidentally launched chrome part way through installing
[14:06] <acresearch> k1l: but it is neither, this happened to me before but in an illerevant file, this time it is a really impirtant file
[14:07] <acresearch> k1l: isn;t there a way to try and recover it if somehow it got deleted
[14:07] <zetheroo> akik: well I need to be able to inject text into the file as well
[14:07] <acresearch> ?
[14:07] <vicatcu> I have a black screen with done text now and no hard disk activity
[14:08] <k1l> acresearch: is there a .Trash-0 folder in that users home?
[14:08] <vicatcu> Is it safe to restart the computer, or what should I do?
[14:09] <acresearch> k1l: no
[14:10] <logical> hi ppl, is it possible to install calendar from gnome 3 (like fedora) on ubuntu-mate?
[14:10] <k1l> acresearch: i dont know then what you did there. what desktop is it?
[14:10] <ruind> Every time I login I have to run 'ifup eth1'  is there a better way of making sure the interface is up upon login besides a custom script in /etc/init.d? http://pastebin.com/LKjfXN9Q
[14:10] <vicatcu> I'm using IRC from my phone... Any help appreciated
[14:12] <k1l> acresearch: is there any .Trash* folder in that users home?
[14:12] <vicatcu> Rebooting
[14:13] <k1l> acresearch: or is it at /home/.Trash*
[14:14] <acresearch> k1l: no, no trash folder in the home direcotry
[14:14] <zetheroo> is there any way to insert text into a file with sudo?
[14:15] <christian95> Hello how do you fix screen tearing in xubuntu? when I enter  cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep Tear it says there that tear free is Disabled
[14:15] <acresearch> k1l: is it hidden?
[14:15] <vicatcu> System I'd running in low graphics mode dialogue pops up and I can't get to the desktop, crap
[14:15] <genii> zetheroo: If you just want to append the file with new text: echo "whatever it is" | sudo tee -a /filepath/filename
[14:16] <k1l> acrocity: yes. folder and files with . starting are hidden.
[14:16] <vicatcu> Please can side kind soul help me get back to a desktop
[14:17] <acresearch> k1l: no i meant, is it supposed to be a hidden folder? i do not find it under normal nor hidden folders
[14:17] <zetheroo> genii: will that work with inserting multiple lines of text?
[14:18] <fr4ncky> hi everybody i have a bug with nautilus. the name of my files havn't numbers
[14:19] <k1l> acresearch: i dont know then. last chance will be extundelete
[14:19] <genii> zetheroo: Sure, one line at a time...  But if you want to actually edit the file, do something like: sudo nano /filepath/filename  instead, add to it, then save and close
[14:21] <vicatcu> How do I get to a command line if unity won't start?
[14:21] <abu_shawarib> ctrl+alt+t
[14:21] <zetheroo> genii: ah cool - thanks!
[14:22] <abu_shawarib> if that don't work use ctrl+alt+f1
[14:23] <ctjctj> Hello.  I'm looking for documentation on how to mount an encrypted filesystem on boot.  Situation: User set up a full disk encrypted ubuntu.  But the drive was slow.  He installed an SSD and we installed 16.04.01 on that SSD.  Now we want to mount the HDD else where and set up some loop back mounts to that HDD.  To mount the HDD we are currently logging in, running cryptsetup luksOpen(???) parmams.  vgchange -yaa; mount
[14:23] <ctjctj> /dev/ubuntu-vg/root /local;
[14:23] <ctjctj> I would like to automate all of that on boot.
[14:25] <acresearch> k1l: how can i use extundelete?
[14:25] <acresearch> k1l: in my situation?
[14:26] <k1l> extundelete is the really last chance. it tries to find the pieces that are not overwritten already on the filesystem
[14:26] <k1l> but i really suggest you try to search your system for that file
[14:27] <vicatcu> Running sudo dpkg --configure -a in an attempt to recover from interrupted distribution upgrade
[14:27] <ctjctj> acresearch have you tried "locate"
[14:27] <acresearch> k1l: i don't know hwere else to search
[14:27] <acresearch> ctjctj: how can i use locate?
[14:27] <k1l> acresearch: did you use the search?
[14:27] <ctjctj> acresearch, locate partial_file_name
[14:28] <acresearch> ctjctj: what if it is a directory?
[14:28] <ctjctj> It will tell you
[14:28] <ctjctj> I use it all the time so I don't remember if it is installed by default.  Worse case you'll need to do an "update-db" command.
[14:28] <vicatcu> Stuff is happening at least...
[14:29] <ctjctj> correction: updatedb
[14:29] <acresearch> ctjctj: i have locate
[14:30] <vicatcu> Assuming I come through this intact, how do I know distribution upgrade succeeded?
[14:30] <acresearch> ctjctj: there is some development...!!! i might have located one of the files in the directory
[14:33] <acresearch> ctjctj: k1l let me explain to you what i have found, i found a text file, which is the most important file for me, it is located in /home/acresearch/ownCloud/Analysis (but this directory does not have this file because it is a cloud storage directory and i removed this file from there earlier today and the server was updated).
[14:34] <ctjctj> acresearch, go to the web interface for your ownCloud server.  Go to the "undelete" option.
[14:35] <ctjctj> Owncloud keeps backups of deleted files until it needs to purge for disk space reasons.  So there is a likely hood that your file is still there.
[14:35] <vicatcu> Rebooting again after running dpkg -configure -a ...
[14:36] <vicatcu> I have unity again!
[14:36] <ctjctj> vicatcu, my condolences.
[14:36] <acresearch> ctjctj: YOU ARE A FREAKING GENIUS !!!! I GOT IT BACK !!!!!!!!!
[14:36] <vicatcu> How do I know if my distribution update is done?
[14:37] <vicatcu> ctjctj har har
[14:37] <abu_shawarib> hehe congrats
[14:37] <christian95> Hi intel tear free is disabled.. How to enable it? Im using xubuntu 16.04 64bit. my gpu is Intel integrated gpu
[14:38] <christian95> anyine help please?
[14:39] <abu_shawarib> christian95: use compositor: http://askubuntu.com/questions/568113/tearing-in-xubuntu-14-04
[14:40] <ctjctj> vicatcu, when unity first came out I hated it.  Now I just dislike it.
[14:40] <xoxoxo> hi! anyone can help me make bootable usb flash drive with ubuntu 16.04 from command line? i currently use debian 8 jessie
[14:40] <ctjctj> acrocity, you are welcome
[14:41] <christian95> abu_shawarib_: greetings my friend.. how do you those commands?
[14:41] <jonah> Hi can anyone help as I can't open Inkscape on ubuntu 16.04 and I get this error: inkscape: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgiomm-2.4.so.1: undefined symbol: _ZN4Glib11VariantTypeD1Ev
[14:42] <abu_shawarib> christian95: what commands? I think Window Manager Settings is somewhere in the settings. I haven't ever used xubuntu so I'm guessing.
[14:43] <liava_> Need help
[14:43] <xoxoxo> abu_shawarib, can you help me?
[14:43] <_adb> xoxoxo: you can use dd: something like sudo dd if=/path/to/downloaded/ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdX, where X is the letter that thekernel has assigned your drive
[14:43] <fajruddin> hi
[14:43] <liava_> I cAnt log on to my Ubuntu . It goes to black screen then login over and ive F
[14:43] <liava_> And over
[14:43] <christian95> abu_shawarib_:how do you add the lines in the config file in the link you sent me?
[14:43] <xoxoxo> /dev/sdb1 is usb of=/dev/sdb or /dev/sdb1
[14:44] <xoxoxo> ?
[14:44] <xoxoxo> i r
[14:44] <xoxoxo> presume is of=/dev/sdb
[14:44] <_adb> xoxoxo: verify your drive letter by plugging it in and checking the output of dmesg. you should see something that indicates which drive letter is in use. of should be /dev/sdb, without the partition number
[14:45] <christian95> abu_shawarib_: I dont want to use compton... I just want to enable tear free
[14:45] <_adb> xoxoxo: warning: this WILL destroy any existing data on that usb disk. VERIFY that it is the correct disk and any data on it is backed up before running the command
[14:46] <liava_>  ANYONE HELP MY UBUNTU KEEPS GOIIGN TO LOGIN OVER AND OVER AND OVER . Anything I can do ?
[14:46] <adasd> hi guys
[14:47] <adasd> help to configuring my computer... I have SSHD 8GB SSD and 500GB HD how install ubuntu?
[14:48] <xoxoxo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23089197/
[14:48] <abu_shawarib> christian95: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf
[14:48] <adasd> cause only 8GB to / ?
[14:48] <Guest14559> 8GB is plenty
[14:48] <Guest14559> for /
[14:49] <christian95> abu_shawarib_: Il try my friend
[14:50] <abu_shawarib> christian95: put this in the file and logout - login :http://paste.ubuntu.com/23089198/
[14:50] <adasd> Guest14559: humm
[14:51] <vicatcu> so now I'm in Ubuntu 16.04
[14:51] <vicatcu> I don't get the open in new tab option when I right click in a terminal?
[14:51] <adasd> 8GB ind SSD, /home 496GB and swap 4GB in the HDD? right?
[14:51] <Guest14559> for instance for ubuntu server 1GB disk space is recommended
[14:52] <adasd>   /  8GB ind SSD, /home 496GB and swap 4GB in the HDD? right?
[14:52] <Guest14559> right
[14:52] <adasd> Guest14559: ubuntu desktop amd64 only 8gb?
[14:52] <christian95> abu_shawarib_: /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf does not exist... and when I copy/paste the text you sent it says no such file or directory
[14:53] <Guest14559> for ubuntu desktop 5GB is recommended
[14:53] <Guest14559> 8GB should be more than enough
[14:53] <adasd> Guest14559:  /var/cache?
[14:53] <Guest14559> var should go to another partition
[14:54] <Guest14559> not the same as /
[14:54] <Guest14559> due big log files and stuff
[14:54] <xoxoxo> _adb, thats all?
[14:55] <xoxoxo> sudo dd if=/home/xoxoxo/Downloads/ubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso of=/dev/sdb
[14:55] <xoxoxo> reboot ?
[14:55] <Hebejebees> Has anyone here used ZNC Bouncer with Ubuntu?
[14:55] <abu_shawarib> christian95: it's just a config file it doesn't need to exist. create it and paste the the text into it
[14:56] <christian95> abu_shawarib_: how?
[14:56] <_adb> xoxoxo: yeah, that's it. if you want to be *absolutely* sure about the drive letter, you can omit the "grep" and just run dmesg. the output for a drive that's registered as sdb2 will look something like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23089214/ you can see pretty clearly: "a usb drive was plugged in, and now i have it as sdb"
[14:57] <abu_shawarib> christian95: do sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf and then write inside it and save it.
[14:57] <adasd> Guest14559: so... / 8GB SSD and  /var 40gb /home 456gb swap 4gb in HDD?
[14:58] <poseidon> Any suggestions for a good laptop that isn't bulky with old peripherals?
[14:58] <Guest14559> is alright
[14:58] <poseidon> I see some laptops I like but they alwasy have things like CD drives, AVI ports, etc.
[14:59] <murphy> is there a way to install wifi drivers from source with apt?
[14:59] <poseidon> All I need are usb, hdmi, and a headphone jack
[14:59] <christian95> abu_shawarib_: Error writing /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf: No such file or directory
[14:59] <abu_shawarib> christian95: copy the http://paste.ubuntu.com/23089198/ text in that file
[14:59] <_adb> poseidon: plenty of netbooks out there, but not really on topic for this channel
[15:00] <adasd> Guest14559: thanks a lot bro, i try here! :D
[15:00] <Guest14559> no problem brah
[15:00] <Guest14559> good luck
[15:00] <poseidon> _adb: any suggested channels?
[15:01] <murphy> i did it manually but it doesnt show up under the wifi manager, i have to do everything through cli
[15:01] <poseidon> also I don't really want a "netbook."  I want a 15" screen with good specs
[15:01] <beantaxi> Hola. 14.04 here. Just noticed the supported openssl is 1.0.1f (Jan 14). I believes covers heartbleed, but have other folks upgraded or are you sticking with 1.0.1f?
[15:01] <poseidon> https://system76.com/laptops have great ubuntu laptops, but they're all so bulky
[15:03] <tdannecy> poseidon: Buy a Mac?
[15:03] <Guest14559> 16.04 uses 1.0.2g
[15:03] <abu_shawarib> christian95: what is the name of the graphical text editor in xubuntu? leafpad? thunar?
[15:04] <poseidon> tdannecy: I can't run ubuntu on a mac
[15:04] <poseidon> can I?
[15:04] <Guest14559> yes you can
[15:04] <adasd> poseidon: yes u can
[15:04] <streulma> yes you can
[15:04] <Guest14559> macs are glorified PCs
[15:04] <adasd> mac intel?
[15:04] <streulma> I have installed Ubuntu on an old iMac 2006 :-)
[15:04] <Guest14559> they run intel you know
[15:05] <streulma> he runs Ubuntu Mate without nvidia 3d
[15:05] <streulma> because video card stuck on OSX
[15:05] <Guest14559> exactly
[15:05] <poseidon> Yeah, I'm not sure if I want to play the premium for a mac.  I just want all the bloatware I don't need
[15:06] <streulma> the person says, my Mac is stuck, can't use :(
[15:06] <streulma> I say, I can fix :-)
[15:07] <_adb> poseidon: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&N=100006740%20600004343%20600004344 lots of choices. figuring out what specs are good, what hardware is extraneous, and which prices are reasonable is up to you. again, however, this isn't really on topic...
[15:08] <xoxoxo> _adb, here is output of dmesg http://paste.ubuntu.com/23089248/ ( after i did if dd ) and this is what dd command did http://paste.ubuntu.com/23089250/
[15:08] <adasd> poseidon: macbook model?
[15:10] <_adb> xoxoxo: that's some normal looking output for dmesg, but some very strange output for your second paste
[15:11] <xoxoxo> so? what is the idea?
[15:11] <xoxoxo> what should i do?
[15:11] <_adb> xoxoxo: i'm not sure. how'd you get that? that's output from an ls, not dd.
[15:12] <xoxoxo> yes ls
[15:12] <xoxoxo> ls inside external hdd
[15:12] <xoxoxo> sdb
[15:14] <ph88_> can someone help setup an ssh tunnel ?
[15:14] <xoxoxo> _adb,
[15:15] <xoxoxo> what do i do? something went wrong
[15:15] <tdannecy> xoxoxo: From your second pastebin, I think you have a mismatched text encoding setting somewhere along the line.
[15:15] <xoxoxo> are same names
[15:16] <xoxoxo> in dolphin
[15:16] <OerHeks> so you DD a partition, looks like a swap partition :-D
[15:19] <ph88_> i have a server to connect to and a destination tunnel address   what do i do with those ?
[15:19] <OerHeks> ph88_, ssh *is* the tunnel, no?
[15:19] <ph88_> don't know
[15:20] <Netek> hmm, can somebody tell me about locale on Ubuntu.  Whenever I attempt to upgrade or do any other form of apt work it complains of locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory
[15:20] <Netek> I have just followed about 5 guides online on solving this and I cannot seem to get this issue to go
[15:21] <Netek> output of locale gives me the following: http://pastebin.com/ANVTRsia
[15:21] <joelio> Netek: do a sudo  dpkg-reconfigure locales
[15:21] <Netek> joelio I did
[15:21] <Netek> I also did locale-gen
[15:21] <Netek> I tried many different things and I dont know why I cannot get rid of this
[15:23] <joelio> LC_ALL should be set to c or something
[15:23] <pathhfinder> hllo
[15:23] <OerHeks> sudo locale-gen en_GB en_GB.UTF-8 && sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[15:23] <joelio> Netek: or potentially just unset, the env var is listed but no value set
[15:23] <logical> hi ppl, is it possible to install calendar from gnome 3 (like fedora) on ubuntu-mate?
[15:24] <Netek> joelio the only thing I didnt try was adding LC_ALL="mt_MT.UTF8"  into /etc/environment and then rebooting
[15:25] <joelio> hang on, mine's not
[15:25] <joelio> try what OerHeks said..
[15:25] <Netek> that is the wrong locale though, it needs to be mt, I try it but change en_GB to mt_MT
[15:25] <joelio> oh, sure
[15:26] <joelio> I'm not familiar with that locale, just check for it's charset (UTF-8 perhaps?)
[15:26] <Netek> yes it is utf-8
[15:26] <joelio> doing the reconfigure asks you thoough, which is strange
[15:27] <aak12> quit
[15:27] <aak12> exit
[15:27] <aak12> close
[15:29] <Netek> hrrmm ok, I did the command that OerHeks said, I no longer get the cannot set LC_ALL but running locale still shows LANGUAGE=  and LC_ALL=  they are both blank
[15:29] <Netek> is this something I should worry about?
[15:29] <mcphail> Netek: no
[15:29] <OerHeks> Netek, did you run updates ? maybe you get some packages you need
[15:30] <Netek> ok, OerHeks yes I just did another apt update and apt upgrade
[15:30] <Netek> no errors
[15:30] <OerHeks> when i change locales in the gui it asks for updates
[15:30] <OerHeks> oke
[15:30] <Netek> this is on a remote server
[15:31] <MacroMan> How can I configure init.d to specify certain arguments when starting a daemon?
[15:31] <MacroMan> Specifically, exim4 starts with -bd by default, which I'd like to remove.
[15:32] <MacroMan> Can I literally just edit the exim file under init.d or will that be overwritten?
[15:34] <mcphail> Netek: $LANGUAGE is for a list of your primary and secondary preference languages. If you want to use one language for most things and don't worry what language will be used if it is not available, keep it blank. $LC_ALL is used to override the other LC_ variables temporarily
[15:34] <addonis1990> anyone is using pidgin here, the chat app? I managed to build it on ubuntu but sounds are not working
[15:34] <Netek> mcphail ok, thanks for the explanation.
[15:35] <Pici> addonis1990: why build it yourself? its in the package repositories.
[15:36] <Pici> !info pidgin
[15:37] <addonis1990> Pici, that's what's mentioned on their website
[15:38] <christian95> abu_shawaraib_: my friend you still there? I restarted my system... still having screen tearing
[15:39] <Pici> addonis1990: their website says "We do not provide pre-built packages for Linux and Unix distributions. We recommend installing Pidgin using your operating system's standard package management tool."
[15:39] <stochastix> Is ubuntu-studio an offshoot of ubuntu just like kubuntu?
[15:40] <stochastix> As in, I can talk about it in here?
[15:40] <addonis1990> Pici, you are right ! Should I remove it and reinstall it again to get sounds to work ?
[15:40] <dax> stochastix: yes
[15:40] <Pici> addonis1990: I'd give that a shot.
[15:41] <stochastix> dax: cool, thanks. Are there repos i can enable to get a newer version of blender?
[15:41] <stochastix> Like v 2.7 something
[15:42] <OerHeks> !info blender
[15:42] <christian95> hi people how to enable tear free? Im using intel integrated gpu in xubuntu 16.04.. I hate screen tearing
[15:42] <OerHeks> universe, so it is the latest i guess
[15:42] <abu_shawarib> christian95: what is the name of the graphical text editor in xubuntu? leafpad? thunar? sublime?
[15:43] <christian95> abu_shawarib_: mousepad
[15:43] <mcphail> stochastix: blender is fairly self-contained and doesn't really need "installed". If you want the latest version, just download it and run it from the unpacked tarball. But my recollection is the current Ubuntu version is fairly up to date
[15:44] <stochastix> mcphail: Does ubuntu-studio use the same repos as ubuntu?
[15:44] <stochastix> It is basically the same thing with some preinstalled packages right?
[15:44] <liava_> Reaver channels only go up to 14?
[15:44] <mcphail> stochastix: I think it does, IIRC. Been a while since I used -studio
[15:44] <stochastix> im downloadinf it right now. Im asking for a freind who just started using linux.
[15:45] <abu_shawarib> christian95: try: sudo mousepad /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf. or just sudo mousepad
[15:45] <mcphail> stochastix: I'm sure there's a page on the u-studio website explaining the (minor) differences. As I recall, there's a tweak or 2 to enable low-latency audio
[15:45] <stochastix> mcphail: he said the version in there is 2.6.8 or something, I bet he just needs to do an upgrade after installing ubuntu-studio
[15:46] <christian95> abu_shawarib_: still cannot save my friend.. maybe the config file should be created first
[15:46] <stochastix> mcphail: yea, realtime kernel is probably one differnce
[15:46] <abu_shawarib> oh crap
[15:46] <abu_shawarib> christian95: i forgot that the folder don't exist
[15:47] <mcphail> stochastix: no - there hasn't been a realtime kernel patch for ages
[15:47] <mcphail> stochastix: lowlatency, yes. Realtime - not for a long time
[15:47] <christian95> abu_shawarib_: how to create the folder?
[15:47] <Melio> can someone clarify versions for me, I notice 14.04 LTS has multiple versions - Trusty, Xenial, Wily, vivid, Utopic - I know Trust/Xenial are the only supported till 2019 versions - which Trusty is 3.13 kernel, and Xenial is 4.4 kernel - what should i do here. one or the other. newer kernel or older.
[15:48] <OerHeks> Melio, both got security patches, 3.x is a LTS kernel
[15:48] <nacc> Melio: 14.04 LTS is Trusty
[15:48] <abu_shawarib> christian95: see if this folder exsist: sudo mousepad /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf
[15:48] <nacc> Melio: did you mean the kernel (hwe) stacks?
[15:48] <Melio> yes, which kernel, newer or older version
[15:49] <mcphail> Melio: use the newer kernel unless it gives you problems
[15:49] <stochastix> mcphail: I see now there is a ubuntustudio room too, oops,   :) search didnt show that a min ago.
[15:49] <Melio> mcphail, would xenial be the same base as 16.04?
[15:49] <nacc> Melio: iirc, 14.04 only supports 14.04.5 now
[15:49] <Melio> nacc, i had a problem with an epson driver in 16.04 using xenial 4.4 kernel
[15:50] <Melio> so i wanna roll back to 14.04.x to recover my printer capability
[15:50] <mcphail> Melio: you might have the same problem, then
[15:50] <Melio> then stick with trusty?
[15:50] <nacc> Melio: then you might want the stock 14.04 level
[15:50] <nacc> Melio: no HWE stack
[15:50] <christian95> abu_shawarib_: my friend
[15:50] <Melio> nacc, is there a network installer for it? is it LTS?
[15:50] <Melio> i ran it 14.04.x with updates until it started flipping out on grub and java got jacked up
[15:51] <abu_shawarib> christian95: ?
[15:51] <nacc> Melio: is there a network installer for what? 14.04.1 would be what you want, iirc
[15:51] <Melio> nacc, mcphail  based on this bug : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lsb/+bug/1536353
[15:51] <Melio> which version would you use?
[15:51] <Melio> or would regression effect 14.04 too
[15:52] <Melio> affect
[15:52] <nacc> Melio: it says the bug is fixed in 16.04 already?
[15:52] <Melio> afflict
[15:52] <Melio> :P
[15:52] <OerHeks> Melio, in that bugreport is your solution too, we told you a few hours ago ..
[15:52] <Melio> it's not
[15:52] <Melio> it's hacked to work
[15:52] <OerHeks> sudo apt-get install printer-driver-escpr seems to be your solution
[15:52] <Melio> OerHeks, it's not a solution! i had to wipe it out
[15:52] <christian95> abu_shawarib_: I restarted my system, still having screen tearing
[15:52] <Melio> OerHeks, doesnt printer-driver-escpr stll depend on i386 arch stuff?
[15:53] <Melio> if i try it, I'm going to have another 3 hours of diagnosing it and filing bugs on this
[15:53] <Melio> I guess anything worth doing is worth taking time to experiment
[15:53] <OerHeks> !info printer-driver-escpr
[15:54] <Melio> http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/text/printer-driver-escpr
[15:54] <Melio> i think it's fine. i'll try it
[15:54] <Melio> but i dono if i'll have scanning. thats the next thing
[15:54] <mcphail> Melio: from a quick scan of that bug report, i can't see that has anything to do with the kernel
[15:54] <christian95> abu_shawarib_: Hey my friend Im back just restarted my system.. so sorry
[15:56] <Melio> mcphail, it's about it being regression it was installed on my old os and worked fine
[15:56] <Melio> deprecated or regression not sure the differnce in those two terms. i'm not a opensource coder
[15:56] <mcphail> Melio: yes - it is a regression but not from the kernel
[15:57] <nacc> Melio: mcphail's point is it has nothing to with the kernel level as you mentioned earlier
[15:57] <Melio> ok
[15:57] <bumblefuzz> hi, I'm trying to install ubuntu without swap space
[15:57] <bumblefuzz> I'm currently booted into the USB drive
[15:57] <bumblefuzz> and I have the installer open but I'm not sure how to partition the drive
[15:58] <abu_shawarib> christian95: can you do: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep Tear
[15:58] <bumblefuzz> can someone help me partition it without a swap partition?
[15:58] <Melio> printing a test page
[15:58] <akik> bumblefuzz: just create the root partition / then(?)
[15:58] <bumblefuzz> I've been reading up on it but have found some fairly complex stuff about ReadonlyRoot
[15:59]  * Melio has to learn to read bug report comments 
[15:59] <bumblefuzz> a normal install has a lot of partitions
[15:59] <bumblefuzz> and I want to use LVM
[16:00] <bumblefuzz> so, just a single root partition?
[16:00] <akik> bumblefuzz: it's enough
[16:01] <Melio> OerHeks, thank you sir. you are a time saver
[16:01] <Melio> i would buy you lunch but all i can do is pay respect forward
[16:02] <OerHeks> Melio, have fun!
[16:02] <Melio> scanner and printer work perfectly (at least so far)
[16:03] <christian95> abu_shawarib_: hey my friend
[16:03] <Melio> i expect it will be fine. but it's actually printing and scanning better then the proprietary solution
[16:03] <Melio> scanner program stock w/ the distribution finds that printer instantly and scans
[16:05] <christian95> hello how to make the configuration file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf
[16:07] <christian95> xubuntu is tearing like hell how to enable tear free in intel gpu please ?
[16:08] <alkisg> christian95: try asking in #xubuntu, they know which window manager they use etc
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> christian95: what is the output of:   lsb_release -c
[16:08] <christian95> alksig_: it takes forever for them to reply so I went here
[16:09] <christian95> ActionParsnip_: Codename:	xenial
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> christian95: and when do you see the tearing ?
[16:10] <christian95> ActionParsnip_: When playing videos in vlc and that youtube video ccalled screen teearing test I want to eliminate screen tearing my friend.. I dont want to use compton...
[16:11] <alkisg> christian95: for example, in ubuntu mate, I have tearing with the default marco, but I don't have tearing when I run mate-tweak and enable marco --no-composite. But I've no idea which window manager xubuntu uses, that's why I suggested to ask there...
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> christian95: if you run:   sudo lshw -C display    do you see an Nvidia GPU and an Intel GPU, or just a GPU?
[16:11] <christian95> alksig_: xfwm4
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> christian95: * just an Intel GPU
[16:11] <christian95> ActionParsnip_: Im using Intel
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> christian95: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23089591/
[16:14] <alkisg> christian95: yup, I've no idea about that window manager, if it's compositing or not, if it has issues like marco/metacity do, how to disable compositing there etc...
[16:14] <christian95> ActionParsnip_: my text editor is mousepad sir\
[16:14] <alkisg> Note that if you're trying to edit a file in xorg.conf.d, you'd need to create the dir first
[16:14] <christian95> alksig_: how??
[16:15] <alkisg> christian95: in my experience, tearfree didn't help
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> christian95: thats fine too. You may want to make a cheeky symlink to make your life easier
[16:15] <alkisg> You can try it with sudo mousepad /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/90-tearfree.conf
[16:16] <christian95> alksig_: no I ean how do you create the dir? I have tried sudo mkdir... gives me errors
[16:16] <alkisg> The /usr dir I mentioned already exists
[16:16] <christian95> alksig tried that too
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> christian95: sudo mkdir /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d; sudo mousepad /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/90-tearfree.conf        ect etc
[16:17] <alkisg> christian95, ActionParsnip, the directory /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d is surely there, it exists
[16:17] <alkisg> Many preinstalled packages provide it
[16:17] <alkisg> $ dpkg -S /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/
[16:17] <alkisg> xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu, xserver-xorg-input-wacom, xserver-xorg-input-vmmouse, xserver-xorg-input-synaptics, xserver-xorg-input-evdev, xserver-xorg-core: /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d
[16:17] <alkisg> christian95: sudo mousepad /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/90-tearfree.conf
[16:18] <alkisg> But as I said, it didn't help with metacity and marco. And, compiz on the other hand, doesn't have that issue.
[16:18] <christian95> thanks to ActionParsnip and alksig for your support... I will now reboot the computer and see if their help works.. I jhope it does thanks you people in this irc channel
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> alkisg: doesnt hurt to try and add it, you'll just get a warning
[16:19] <alkisg> Sure, just to make sure he wasn't doing other things like "I have tried sudo mkdir... gives me errors"
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> alkisg: oh, absolutely :)
[16:22] <abu_shawarib> this chat does't make any sound when someone mention me
[16:22] <partyline> hi there i have problem with my audio
[16:22] <partyline> just stop working
[16:23] <alkisg> abu_shawarib: which irc client are you using?
[16:24] <Melio> i'm trying to access an external usb harddrive. and it's not showing up here's my paste of dmesg and tail, and lsusb http://pastebin.com/Du8RiSqG
[16:24] <abu_shawarib> hmm i think it doesn't work when my name have _ in the last
[16:24] <abu_shawarib> i'm just using web
[16:25] <alkisg> Melio: one possibility is that the port doesn't have enough power for the harddrive, do you happen to have an externally powered usb hub, so that you try connecting it via that instead?
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> partyline: try:  killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.config/pulse* ~/.pulse*     wait 10 seconds then reboot
[16:26] <stochastix> What is xenial?  Is that the name of 16.04  ?
[16:27] <nacc> stochastix: yes, the codename
[16:27] <stochastix> ok thanks
[16:27] <stochastix> So if i enable, proposed repos, that is about as new as i can get on any packages right?
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> !xenial
[16:27] <nacc> ActionParsnip: fyi, `pulseaudio -k` is preferred over `killall pulseaudio` iirc (more graceful, possibly)
[16:27] <partyline> rm: cannot remove '/home/partyline/.pulse*': No such file or directory
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> nacc: will use that in future. Thanks
[16:28] <stochastix> I wondering what the newest version of Blender is that i can possibly get as a package through the repos
[16:28] <nacc> ActionParsnip: although in both cases, i wonder if it will just restart right away (i'd need to check)
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> partyline: thats fine, you'll have one or the other. The command covers both
[16:28] <nacc> stochastix: in 16.04?
[16:28] <Melio> wtf file system is "Microsoft storage spaces"
[16:28] <alkisg> stochastix: http://packages.ubuntu.com/blender ==> sorted by ubuntu version
[16:28] <partyline> rebootnow
[16:28] <genii> !info blender
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> nacc: it does but in the small amount of times its dead, the files are free
[16:28] <stochastix> alkisg: ohh, nice, thanks
[16:28] <nacc> ActionParsnip: ah sure :)
[16:28] <xoxoxo> thank you _adb
[16:29] <Melio> http://pastebin.com/gfG8cVwu
[16:29] <genii> stochastix: Bot indicates current version included is 2.76
[16:29] <Melio> I dont think linux can access this drive, cause it's not compatible with linux's ability to read it
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> partyline: give the system a kick, see if its ok then
[16:29] <Melio> i guess that's better than mounting it and showing me a drive i can't access
[16:29] <Melio> hmm. i guess that's a choice i would like to make
[16:30] <partyline> ActionParsnip, thanks dude audio start work
[16:30] <partyline> with aut reboot
[16:30] <stochastix> genii: looks like yakkety has 2.77
[16:30] <stochastix> genii: is yakkety a newer release, or is that in testing?
[16:30] <genii> stochastix: Yakkety is the development version of the next Ubuntu
[16:31] <nacc> stochastix: yakkety = 16.10
[16:31] <stochastix> genii: ok, so development yakkety is even more testing than xenial-proposed i take it.
[16:31] <nacc> stochastix: two totally different things
[16:31] <nacc> stochastix: yakkety is a different distribution/release
[16:31] <stochastix> ok, im used to rolling releases, I have to asjust my brain
[16:31] <nacc> stochastix: xenial-proposed is pending updates (typically for testing purposes for bugs, etc.) for xenial
[16:32] <stochastix> nacc: I see
[16:32] <genii> stochastix: For a later Blender, I use this PPA, which is well-maintained: https://launchpad.net/~thomas-schiex/+archive/ubuntu/blender
[16:32] <damolima> smbclient works, but nautilus doesn't show any devices in "Windows networks". How can I fix this?
[16:32] <stochastix> nacc: going to yakkety would not be advised for someone who is new to Linux, like my frind right?  :)
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> partyline: if its working ten no need
[16:32] <nacc> stochastix: no, it would not be.
[16:32] <nacc> stochastix: it's not yet released
[16:33] <abu_shawarib> Guys can you see if this affect you? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1542733
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> partyline: you just reset the settings for pulse to defaults. Its a good place to start if sound suddenly stops working
[16:33] <stochastix> genii: ahh, thanks for that. A third party repo will fit the bill.
[16:33] <MonkeyDust> ActionParsnip  long time no see
[16:34] <stochastix> what does PPA stand for?
[16:34] <abu_shawarib> personal package archive
[16:34] <stochastix> ah, ok nice/
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyDust: yeah man, been busy
[16:34] <stochastix> I know that is"risky" but i am guessing there is a list of trusted people with PPAs?
[16:35] <abu_shawarib> Ther
[16:35] <abu_shawarib> There isn't
[16:35] <mcphail> stochastix: there is no need for a PPA for blender at all. Just download and run from the site. Why mess up your package management?
[16:36] <stochastix> oh ok, I just thought maybe there was a good way to find popular PPAs
[16:36] <stochastix> mcphail: you are probably right, or just stick with 2.76 really.
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> stochastix: I use duckduckgo   they have a !ppa bang :)
[16:37] <mcphail> stochastix: the blender creators work hard to keep it self-contained. Bless them for that
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> stochastix: all PPAs are equally risky as they are outside of the official repositories
[16:37] <stochastix> mcphail: though the installed versions are more integrated with ubuntu, the GPU and packages like ffmpeg and stuff
[16:37]  * alkisg would argue that the ones maintained by the debian/ubuntu maintainers for the same packages, are a bit more safe than others... :)
[16:38] <mcphail> stochastix: I have half a dozen version of blender on my hard drive. The Ubuntu native package does not offer anything the downloads don't
[16:38] <stochastix> mcphail: ok, thanks for that info.
[16:38] <mcphail> stochastix: getting GPU rendering is hairy whether your on native or not
[16:38] <mcphail> *you're
[16:41] <abu_shawarib> anyone checked that bug?
[16:43] <nrml1> anyone seen this before? W: Invalid 'Date' entry in Release file /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/pkg.duosecurity.com_Ubuntu_dists_trusty_Release
[16:43] <nrml1> 16.04.1 when running apt-get update
[16:43] <cortexman> i'm having trouble using apt-get - it keeps hanging on ubuntu and other repos https://gist.github.com/brianmingus/5958a7341a4a8b7d08752478fd3be580
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> nrml1: try:   wget https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8850924/fixpackage; chmod +x ./fixpackage; sudo ./fixpackage
[16:46] <nacc> nrml1: fwiw, it seems like the repository you are using is for trusty, not for xenial (based upon the release file name)
[16:47] <blackflow> so many kittens die whenever someone (wget or curl) | sudo
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> blackflow: the link is clickable and can be checked before running
[16:47] <nrml1> yeah I realize that, it was after I did a release upgrade
[16:47] <blackflow> and that methodology and approach should be advised instead.
[16:47] <h3ll> hello everyone
[16:47] <aryell> hi
[16:48] <ElectroMotive> howdy
[16:48]  * h3ll how are you mates?
[16:48] <nrml1> yeah if you just copy paste from an irc channel without checking the code then you kind of deserve whatever happens
[16:48] <blackflow> people get kickbanned here if they suggest rm -rf (root)  (even if doesn't do anything nowadays), this is not much different.
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> blackflow: its just the commands from here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PackageManagerTroubleshootingProcedure   in a script for ease of use
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> blackflow: If you check, I'm also an Ubuntu member so adds a little credibility
[16:49] <blackflow> I know, I'm just saying we should teach people to always check first.
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> oh absolutely
[16:49] <nrml1> a disclaimer heh
[16:50] <nrml1> although I stand by what I said
[16:51] <avail_> does reaver only check 14 channels then repeat?
[17:00] <Hideme> Migrated to 16.04, upon login, the desktop doesn't load while using a 4.x kernel. If I switch to a 3.x kernel everything works. Any idea how to fix this?
[17:01] <Netek> am I right in understanding that if I want to have a desktop connected to a printer and network running ubuntu to act as the printer server (all other computers on the network to print through the desktop) I need to use cups?
[17:04] <xubuntu-fayir> hi
[17:04] <xubuntu-fayir> hello world
[17:04] <ActionParsnip> Netek: you can use cups or samba if you like
[17:05] <Netek> ActionParsnip ok, I need something that is rather easy to setup.  I will look at them both and see, thanks
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> Netek: lots of guides on YouTube
[17:22] <_0xbadc0de> sudo apt-get install sublime
[17:22] <_0xbadc0de> kinda didn't work
[17:22] <nacc> !info sublime xenial
[17:22] <nacc> _0xbadc0de: --^
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> !find sublime
[17:23] <_0xbadc0de> what text editor would you advise to read code in this junk of OS
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> _0xbadc0de: what is the output of:   lsb_release -c
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> _0xbadc0de:  use less....
[17:23] <nacc> _0xbadc0de: vim, emacs, less...
[17:24] <nacc> _0xbadc0de: there's no 'advice' there, it's personal preference
[17:24] <_0xbadc0de> one that can do php code highlighting and that can change background colors and stuff
[17:24] <_0xbadc0de> have styles essentially
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> _0xbadc0de: what is the output of:   lsb_release -c    please
[17:24] <_0xbadc0de> I am pretty gay when it turns out to read code
[17:25] <_0xbadc0de> codename: trusty
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> _0xbadc0de: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/sublime-text-2; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install sublime-text
[17:26] <Netek> sublime 2?
[17:26] <Netek> it should be sublime 3 and download it from their website, they have the Ubuntu installer...
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> _0xbadc0de: or for beta builds:   sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/sublime-text-3; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install sublime-text-installer
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> Netek: why should it be?
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> Netek: the PPA says version 3 is beta. Aka unstable
[17:27] <Netek> ActionParsnip why it should be 3?  I thought for improvements, updates and so on.
[17:27] <Netek> the PPA maybe but sublime 3 is on their website as the full version I think
[17:27] <Netek> let me double check -_-
[17:27] <Netek> ok my bad :o  It is BETA
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> Netek: depends if you want stability or not. Newer and Alpha isn't always better
[17:27] <Netek> <--- ignore this fool
[17:29] <idzireit> yesterday I upgraded from ubuntu 14.04 to 16 andn ow I can not get the android sdk to show up
[17:29] <avail_> anyone help me with a reaver question? pm
[17:30] <jwitk0> Hey All,  If I have a server with two SSDs (and no other disks) is it at all possible to get these disks into a software RAID0 configuration?  Standard methods of course complain that my /dev/sda is in use
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> jwitk0: you'll need to do anything like that in LiveCD / USB desktop. Be sure your backups are up to date before you start playing
[17:31] <jwitk0> Thanks ActionParsnip
[17:33] <idzireit> am I in the right channel for asking how to fix my android sdk
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> idzireit: if its under Ubuntu, then yes
[17:34] <idzireit> upgraded from 14 to 16 andn ow ubuntu can not find it
[17:34] <idzireit> tried to redownload it and reinstall but says I already have
[17:34] <MonkeyDust> idzireit  is that a ppa?
[17:35] <idzireit> no directly from android sdk website monkey
[17:35] <refj> After a recent upgrade to 14.04.5 arptables stopped working. When running "arptables -Ln" the following message is returned: "arptables: Table does not exist (do you need to insmod?)". lsmod reveals that arptables_filter is loaded.
[17:35] <refj> Google searches are fruitless.
[17:35] <seednode> Trees past the age of bearing seeds are fruitless
[17:36] <seednode> Sorry, this isn't an OT channel, misclicked
[17:36] <logical> Hi, is it possible to play youtube in rhythmbox only sound?
[17:37] <idzireit> refj was that statement directed towards me ?
[17:38] <refj> idzireit: No, sorry. Actually I just found out that -Ln is the reason it doesn't work. Silly me.
[17:38] <refj> Have a nice evening.
[17:45] <elisa87> http://serverfault.com/questions/799126/no-space-left-on-device-home-ubuntu-aws do you know how to fix this issue?
[17:47] <zodiac19> Probably a redundant question. but is there a way to boost the speed of ubuntu on lower end computers like a lenovo thinkpad t500 or a t510?
[17:47] <seednode> zodiac19, does the machine have an SSD right now? Or 2-4GB of RAM? If not, add SSD, or add RAM
[17:47] <seednode> If you meant software-wise
[17:47] <baizon> zodiac19: use a lightweight DE
[17:47] <seednode> There are various tweaks that can help, but most of them come with various drawbacks
[17:47] <seednode> i.e. lighter-weight programs might have fewer features or less eyecandy
[17:48] <zodiac19> Okay, still rather new to linux, whats a DE?
[17:48] <baizon> zodiac19: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desktop_environment
[17:48] <seednode> A desktop environment; it's the collection of applications that comes with most distros, including the window manager, default programs, etc
[17:49] <zodiac19> I have room to improve the ram, so that is a step forward. researching DE
[17:50] <jda2000> After installing Ubuntu 16.04 the system does not respond to 'avahi-browse -rat' from other machines.  How do I get 16.04 to respond like 14.04 did?
[17:51] <Moppy> Hello. Is there some way of scheduling tasks randomly with cron? I'm using a dirty hack of making the task sleep for a random time on launch but that sort of sucks.
[17:52] <logical> Hi, I just wanted to install atraci and i added the ppa for it and updated and now i run the apt install atraci now the download stopped at 66% and I tried to use ctrl+c to stop the installation but the terminal wont respond, should i force quit the terminal?
[17:52] <logical> I am new to linox
[17:52] <logical> linux*
[17:53] <nacc> Moppy: that seems like the opposite of what cron is for
[17:53] <zodiac19> My first choice at the moment is to increase the Ram. I would hate to have to try and re-learn a new interface on my computers. Though I do have a computer already running lubuntu so I can experiment with that a bit
[17:53] <Moppy> logical: it will eventually time out, but you should be able to stop it safely so long as it is just donwloading
[17:54] <logical> Moppy I closed the terminal to Kill the process now i cant install anything it says that dpkg is used
[17:55] <Moppy> logical: I think the file you need to remove is /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[17:56] <squinty> jda2000,  fwiw, on 16.04 avahi-browse -h doesn't display the "t" argument.  use avahi-browse -ra instead
[17:56] <logical> I found solution on internet, thx stil :)
[17:56] <paranoidabhi>  I hear a burst of disturbance while play/pause in vlc. When kde completing loading at startup. Any ideas? I am using kubuntu 16.04 with kde 5.6 plasma
[17:56] <paranoidabhi> *vlc. "and" when
[17:57] <Bellator> Hey folks, I keep having an "internal error" every time I boot up my 14.04
[17:57] <Moppy> nacc: If I have a lot of tasks and dont them to all run at once, it's easier to add a slightly random modifier to teh start time, than make a billion diffrent cron entries on each machine
[18:01] <nacc> Moppy: write a simple wrapper script that takes the task to run as input?
[18:02] <Moppy> nacc: Yea that's kind of what I'm doing. The script sleeps for a random time on startup. I was just looking for a more elegant way.
[18:02] <nacc> Moppy: i don't think there is any such way in cron itself, as the point of cron is to accurately schedule tasks
[18:10] <zodiac19> thinkpad x200 tablet running lubuntu. is there anything reccomended for development use on that specific computer?
[18:17] <zodiac19> also prbably a stupd question, what is gnome exactly?
[18:18] <Metamorphosis> A Desktop Environment. I personally prefer KDE. Ubuntu's default is Unity.
[18:19] <zodiac19> okay... that helps a little.
[18:22] <Moppy> zodiac19: Your Lubuntu uses the LXDE desktop envronment.
[18:22] <wsky> so after i've installed mate, mate-screensaver service gets launched in my unity session
[18:23] <wsky> i'd rather like it not but there is no entry for it in unity startup programs
[18:23] <wsky> it seems to be launched along gnome software service
[18:23] <wsky> is the gnome software service important to unity?
[18:23] <wsky> or can i switch it off
[18:24] <zodiac19> Well that will make sense to me after I do more research :b Any software recomendations for development in assuming it hasbetween 1-2 gb of ram?
[18:25] <zodiac19> Graphic and programing development that is
[18:26] <Moppy> zodiac19: Are you asking which programming language you should learn?
[18:26] <zodiac19> no, I am asking what tools on lubuntu I can run with 1-2gb of ram safely
[18:26] <zodiac19> for writing programs and making art
[18:27] <_KaLiF> Hi..!
[18:27] <Moppy> zodiac19: For art, gimp and inkscape with both work.
[18:27] <Moppy> zodiac19: Lubuntu uses like less than 512MB of ram normally
[18:28] <zodiac19> okay, thank you
[18:29] <Metamorphosis> Yes in theory it runs just on 512mb but beware of the type and number of apps you work with at the same time.
[18:31] <Moppy> zodiac19: Oh, you meant "writing programs" as in word processors, and not programming! I see. Libreoffice works and is inlcuded with Lubuntu.
[18:31] <zodiac19> Okay, any code editors I should be aware of in that manor?
[18:32] <Metamorphosis> if all you need is a word processor i recommand abyword which is much lighter and better with low memory
[18:32] <zodiac19> okay
[18:33] <Moppy> zodiac19: The usual suspects all work. Atom, Sublime  etc.I've not tried a full IDE on Lubuntu in 2GB so I can't comment on that.
[18:33] <zodiac19> Well I'm looking to develop video games: 2D RPGs; so the recomendations are much appreciated
[18:34] <rfdelta> I want to upgrade the firmware of my SSD which is a corsair force LE 240GB. How can I do it in ubuntu?
[18:34] <Moppy> Personally I would install windows and use RPGMaker but ...
[18:36] <baizon> rfdelta: well its windows only
[18:37] <rfdelta> baizon: So I cant do it in ubuntu?
[18:37] <zodiac19> I have RPG maker on my ubuntu computer already >.>
[18:37] <baizon> rfdelta: take a pc with windows, or install a trial of windows and upgrade then. Shutout to corsair for windows software only
[18:38] <baizon> rfdelta: wow, 5 years old corsair thread and no linux support. Thats bad
[18:38] <rfdelta> baizon: how do I install windows? I only have this one laptop with ubuntu on it.
[18:39] <baizon> rfdelta: take the ssd out and put it into a pc with windows? you got that option?
[18:39] <rfdelta> baizon: nope that's the problem. i just have this one laptop
[18:40] <Narwhaal> is it possible to install apt on another distribution ?
[18:40] <Narwhaal> or will it break ?
[18:40] <baizon> Narwhaal: depends on the distribution
[18:40] <baizon> rfdelta: ask on the corsair support forum/page then
[18:40] <Narwhaal> baizon: rolling
[18:40] <bekks> Narwhaal: "rolling" is not a distribution.
[18:40] <baizon> Narwhaal: depends on the distribution
[18:40] <rfdelta> baizon: how can I install windows if I have the windows iso on ubuntu?
[18:41] <Narwhaal> baizon: a distro like gentoo
[18:41] <Narwhaal> or arch
[18:41] <rfdelta> baako: can I create a live windows usb in ubuntu?
[18:41] <baizon> Narwhaal: thats a very bad idea
[18:41] <zodiac19> I'm learning to use ubuntu for everything at the moment. The tablet computer I have uses lubuntu. but from my knowledge you can run almost any windows application with wine and winetricks
[18:41] <bekks> Narwhaal: they will break, and they have their own package management systems.
[18:41] <Narwhaal> bekks: I mean if I remove their own
[18:41] <bekks> rfdelta: There are no Windows live whatever. :)
[18:41] <bekks> Narwhaal: Then you will break it.
[18:41] <Narwhaal> hm
[18:41] <baizon> rfdelta: its possible to create a live windows usb, but i dont know how
[18:42] <CodFection> when will I get 4.6 kernel on ubuntu
[18:42] <nacc> Narwhaal: why would you ever do that? distributions have their own package management systems, use what is there for each distribution
[18:42] <CodFection> or 4.7 kernel?
[18:42] <Moppy> You can make a windows live CD on ubuntu. I've done it but don;t remember how. Google knows.
[18:42] <rfdelta> does anyone know how I can create a live windows usb from within ubuntu? I dont have access to a windows computer...
[18:42] <baizon> CodFection: with 16.04.2
[18:42] <EriC^^> !winusb | rfdelta
[18:42] <Narwhaal> nacc: cuz apt is nice, and ubuntu doesn't work for me
[18:42] <CodFection> baizon, when it will release?
[18:42] <bekks> CodFection: with the LTS release shipping with 4.6 or 4.7 as default kernel.
[18:42] <baizon> CodFection: july 2017
[18:42] <bekks> Narwhaal: Why doesnt it work for you?
[18:42] <CodFection> wow
[18:43] <Narwhaal> bekks: it's not rolling
[18:43] <nacc> that's not a "not working" reason, that's a "I don't like it" reason.
[18:43] <bekks> Narwhaal: Which is not a valid reason for "does not work". It is just not what you want, which is a big difference.
[18:43] <baizon> CodFection: well you can always use the mainline kernel
[18:43] <Narwhaal> "for me" means "in my opinion"
[18:44] <bekks> CodFection: The mainline kernels dont get official support, you are pretty much on your own with them.
[18:44] <CodFection> sad
[18:44] <nacc> CodFection: why?
[18:44] <CodFection> arch has 4.7 kernel
[18:44] <CodFection> ubuntu will have after 1 year
[18:44] <bekks> CodFection: And?
[18:44] <nacc> CodFection: so?
[18:44] <CodFection> why
[18:44] <bekks> CodFection: Why not?
[18:44] <bekks> CodFection: Arch is not Ubuntu.
[18:44] <CodFection> latest features?
[18:44] <bekks> CodFection: Name one.
[18:44] <nacc> CodFection: name one feature in 4.7 you know you need.
[18:45] <xubuntu-fayir> HEIL LINUX
[18:45] <bekks> !ops | xubuntu-fayir
[18:45] <CodFection> can I name from 4.6?
[18:45] <dax> hi
[18:45] <bekks> CodFection: NAme one feature you actually need.
[18:45] <dax> xubuntu-fayir: no.
[18:45] <bekks> CodFection: Not just one you know the name of :)
[18:45] <Narwhaal> but yea, no way ? not even from a more stable distribution ?
[18:45] <Moppy> BTW, it's offtopic but windows DOES have a live function; it can run from a bootable USB. For sure 8+ does but I don't know about 7 and earlier.
[18:45] <bekks> Narwhaal: No.
[18:46] <bekks> Moppy: 7 and earlier cant.
[18:46] <CodFection> I mean as a programmer, aren't we supposed to have latest? I mean not the unstable latest.. just the stable latest
[18:46] <nacc> Narwhaal: sorry, you are in a support channel and said "doesn't work". I misinterpreted.
[18:46] <Narwhaal> nacc: no problem
[18:46] <nacc> CodFection: you don't need the latest kernel to write programs.
[18:46] <bekks> CodFection: No. When being paranoid, you need the latest and greatest. When you are a programmer, you want a stable system.
[18:46] <baizon> CodFection: well then get 16.10 in a month, it will have the latest kernel. LTS sticks with "stable"
[18:47] <bekks> baizon: 16.10 will not have the "latest", too.
[18:47] <Narwhaal> ok then
[18:47] <CodFection> actually many linux are using 4.6 / 4.7 kernels and they are quite stable.. baizon bekks nacc. dont get me wrong, I prefer ubuntu very much just doubtful about the updates
[18:47] <nacc> it's supposed to be 4.8 based, (iirc) -- i wonder if that means 16.04.2 will be too, actually
[18:47] <Narwhaal> time to start getting apt working on archlinux then
[18:47] <bekks> CodFection: And none of them is Ubuntu.
[18:48] <bekks> Narwhaal: Proceed to #archlinux and ask them.
[18:48] <Narwhaal> bekks: no need, I'll just do it
[18:48] <Narwhaal> i'm inquisitive so
[18:48] <CodFection> ubuntu is very easy to install for me.. which is why I like it but then I realize I am not gonna be having latest kernel or packages. (stable ones..)
[18:48] <bekks> Narwhaal: YMMD, ROFL, good luck. :D
[18:48] <Narwhaal> ymmd ?
[18:49] <bekks> CodFection: And whats the exact problem you are having using 16.04 which is supported until 2021?
[18:49] <bekks> Narwhaal: "you made my day"
[18:49] <Narwhaal> ah
[18:49] <Narwhaal> thanks
[18:49] <baizon> Narwhaal: well if you want bleeding edge packages i recommend a RR distribution
[18:50] <bekks> Narwhaal: It's the expression for just having heard the most funny joke this day :)
[18:50] <baizon> ups wrong guy, sorry
[18:50] <alkisg> CodFection: mainline kernels are supported by upstream kernel developers, while ubuntu patched kernels by ubuntu developers. You can select which one you want to support you.
[18:50] <Narwhaal> baizon: I'm using arch, gentoo and I'm working on a new distrib
[18:50] <baizon> CodFection: well if you want bleeding edge packages i recommend a RR distribution
[18:50] <joaquin69> hello guys somebody know why when i put a static IP, after a while... the ip changed?
[18:50] <CodFection> bekks, like I said. no problems but I might miss features of latest softwares. thats the only thing I am worried about
[18:50] <Moppy> I asked earlier but the channel was quiet. How do you schedule a task for a random start time? I am using cron but having the tasks sleep on startup and it's just a bad hack ;-(
[18:50] <bekks> joaquin69: your ip isnt static then.
[18:50] <bekks> CodFection: NAme ONE feature you need you are missing.
[18:50] <joaquin69> i put on static :'c
[18:50] <baizon> Moppy: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/randomvar.html
[18:51] <CodFection> bekks, like gcc has many features
[18:51] <CodFection> in newer version
[18:51] <paranoidabhi> Tired of this http://askubuntu.com/questions/816848/burst-of-sound-whenever-audio-starts :/
[18:51] <joaquin69> bekks: can i show you my interface ?
[18:51] <bekks> CodFection: Which does not have ANYTHING to do with a specific kernel version.
[18:51] <Moppy> baizon: In a crontab file?
[18:51] <bekks> CodFection: So in fact you dont need a newer kernel and can just stick with LTS.
[18:51] <CodFection> ok but what about packages? they need to be updated isnt it?
[18:51] <baizon> Moppy: no, im just showing you the direction
[18:52] <paranoidabhi> any ideas?
[18:52] <baizon> CodFection: and they get updated, just not with features
[18:52] <bekks> CodFection: They are supported and updated until 2021 - so whats your exact issue at that point?
[18:53] <Moppy> baizon: I see, so you're cron doesn't do it out of the box. I understand now.
[18:53] <Moppy> +saying
[18:53] <nacc> the notion you always want the latest version of everything feels like miseducation to me; if you want it purely to say you are on the 'latest', that's fine -- just admit that and go to a different distribution :)
[18:53] <alkisg> The latest version of everything usually means "spending a couple of hours per day reporting bugs"
[18:53] <Moppy> Well, ubuntu had an old version of gthumb for ages because of some gnome compatbility. It's nice to have new apps sometimes.
[18:53] <CodFection> if it was perfect, people wouldn't need other distros bekks
[18:54] <joaquin69> http://pastebin.com/ddE0aXDj this is my interface config
[18:54] <CodFection> nacc, I am not.. I am deciding which one to install..
[18:54] <Moppy> i used to have to build gthumb from source, but then it stopped working when somethng changed int he depedancies
[18:54] <paranoidabhi> I have been stuck at it for 3 months. Not found any solutions.
[18:54] <bekks> CodFection: So you came here just for getting some reasons for "needing" the latest and greatest, then?
[18:54] <Metamorphosis> I'm still on Kubuntu 10.04 and it feels wonderful . you dont need new software. the old is better.
[18:54] <joaquin69> and after while, the ip is changed
[18:54] <CodFection> the only reason thats keeping me from ubuntu is packages updates nacc
[18:54] <bekks> CodFection: Then use another distribution. Whats the problem?
[18:54] <Amm0n> !latest
[18:55] <paranoidabhi> Metamorphosis, is it stable?
[18:55] <Amm0n> apt + rolling release -> debian testing
[18:55] <nacc> CodFection: you're in the wrong channel then -- this is the support channel
[18:55] <zodiac19> okay new question, and forgive me if its a bit of an ignorant question. does a docking station make a computer run better or just allow th computer to handle more inputs and outputs?
[18:55] <nacc> Moppy: right, that's what distributions do for you -- they ensure compatibility
[18:55] <Metamorphosis> yeah its great. i use libreoffice on it everyday. i also use Windows xp and thats stable too. but ubuntu 10.04 is better and more polished
[18:56] <alkisg> paranoidabhi: does it work fine with e.g. an ubuntu live cd? I.e. is it a problem with the kde stack (phonon etc) specifically?
[18:56] <nacc> zodiac19: typically it just adds hardware/ports
[18:56] <bekks> Metamorphosis: Ubuntu 10.04 isnt supported anymore.
[18:56] <paranoidabhi> Please have a look http://askubuntu.com/questions/816848/burst-of-sound-whenever-audio-starts :/
[18:56] <Metamorphosis> I dont need support. the software just works.
[18:56] <CodFection> ubottu, thank you very much for clarifying. I hope those 3 could also explain it like this rather than pushing me away from ubuntu. thanks
[18:56] <Moppy> zodiac19: It's a device for a laptop to add extra ports. Some docks might have like a larger external hard drive so i suppose they *might* improve performance if you're low in disk space :)
[18:56] <zodiac19> okay, that helps a lot thank you!
[18:56] <paranoidabhi> alkisg, not sure. I haven't tried.
[18:56] <CodFection> Amm0n,
[18:57] <bekks> CodFection: Actually, I dont care wether you are using Ubuntu or not - it is not my decision, but yours.
[18:57] <nacc> +1
[18:57] <paranoidabhi> Metamorphosis, which kde you have?
[18:57] <alkisg> paranoidabhi: if it's just a problem with kde, you should direct the question there. You can also check if it's kubuntu-specific or kde-specific, and report the issue accordingly.
[18:57] <paranoidabhi> alkisg, I think it is driver issue. Why do you think it is a kde problem?
[18:57] <Metamorphosis> paranoidabhi at first it was KDE 4 but i managed to find a way and installed KDE 3.x packages on it.
[18:58] <alkisg> paranoidabhi: well, you can test with a live cd and see for yourself in a few minutes. KDE does have its own additions to the sound system.
[18:58] <paranoidabhi> Metamorphosis, why?  i am using kde 5.6 and am waiting for fixes in kde 5.7. I suspect older kdes must very unstable.
[18:59] <nrml1> any of you use puppet?
[18:59] <CodFection> bekks, linux irc supports never actually help beginners
[18:59] <CodFection> so its useless to ask here. bye
[18:59] <bekks> CodFection: Pointless discussions are not in the scope of this channel. This is a support channel, only.
[18:59] <Metamorphosis> paranoidabhi no i believe KDE 3 was better and its also better with low end systems. KDE 4 is heavy. i did not tried KDE 5 yet. i'm downloadind Kubuntu 16.04.1 at the moment
[19:00] <paranoidabhi> Metamorphosis, kde 5 is "so" much better. You are missing a lot of good stuff.
[19:00] <tgm4883> CodFection: if you wish to discuss it, #ubuntu-discuss would be a better channel
[19:05] <pureshors> hello i search a french canal
[19:06] <dax> pureshors: try #ubuntu-fr :)
[19:06] <dax> /join #ubuntu-fr
[19:06] <pureshors> thank you dax
[19:11] <paranoidabhi> sick of bursting sound.
[19:11] <paranoidabhi> http://askubuntu.com/questions/816848/burst-of-sound-whenever-audio-starts :/
[19:12] <POwerless> does anyone know how to fix those buggy icons? http://imgur.com/a/4pTym
[19:13] <Hideme> Migrated to 16.04, upon login, the desktop doesn't load while using a 4.x kernel. If I switch to a 3.x kernel everything works. Any idea how to fix this?
[19:14] <Seveas> Hideme: first guess would be 3rd party graphics drivers that need to be reinstalled. Are you using non-default video drivers?
[19:15] <ioria> Hideme, amd video card ?
[19:15] <Hideme> Seveas, oddly enough, the guest login works fine.  It is a VM.
[19:16] <scream_> Yo
[19:17] <rattlebattle79> Hideme: Maybe your permissions of your home folder is gone bad? sudo chown username:username /home/username -R
[19:17] <bekks> Hideme: Check the permissions before blindly firing up commands.
[19:17] <Hideme> rattlebattle79, reverting to a 3.x kenerl works tho without the change in persmission.
[19:18] <OerHeks> i would try: Sudo dpkg --configure -a ### run apt install -f, all should be fine now
[19:19] <mixxit> whats the deal for installing software manually
[19:19] <mixxit> should i make a folder in usr or opt
[19:20] <AciD`> hey
[19:21] <alkisg> Hideme: anything significant in the last lines of .xsession-errors?
[19:21] <AciD`> if I can ssh to other boxes, and receive ssh connection for my user on this computer, shouldn't I have a ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub file in my home?
[19:21] <Hideme> rattlebattle79, confirmed and issue remains with 4.x kernel
[19:23] <alkisg> AciD`: afaik you create that only if you want key-based authentication, instead of password-based
[19:23] <Hideme> alkisg, openConnection: connect: no such file or dir.   cnnot connect to brltty at :0
[19:24] <AciD`> alkisg -> oh ok, I though I remember seeing those files b
[19:24] <AciD`> *before
[19:24] <alkisg> Hideme: anything else? e.g. check if xorg crashes, for example because you're using different settings than the default user
[19:24] <alkisg> resolution, compositing, stuff like that
[19:25] <Hideme> alkisg, maybe I should jsut rm the xorg.conf?
[19:26] <ioria> Hideme, at the login screen , can you open a console and login  ?
[19:26] <alkisg> Hideme: If the system works with a new user but not with the old user, I don't think xorg.conf matters
[19:26] <Hideme> ioria, yes.
[19:26] <Hideme> alkisg, yes, very oddy how Gust account works and my user doesn't.
[19:26] <ioria> Hideme, try to create a new user
[19:27] <Hideme> ioria, okay
[19:27] <mustmodify> frustrating. When I ssh into my dev machine, and then ssh into a client's machine, if I step away, I come back and it's frozen and I can't disconnect.
[19:28] <mustmodify> Is that an issue with the ssh config on my dev machine? or the client machine? or both?
[19:28] <mustmodify> both are ubuntu
[19:30] <Hideme> ioria, New user works.
[19:31] <ioria> Hideme, so personal setting issue, i guess
[19:31] <alkisg> Hideme: one big test is to rename the two major settings folders so that new ones are created: (1) logout and go to e.g. vt1 to login as old-user, so that gsettings aren't used. (2) mv .local .local.old; mv .config .config.old (3) login normally as old-user. If at that point you can login, then you have confirmed that a user setting is to blame. But note that if you didn't understand the "mv" commands, and you don't know how to put those folders back, 
[19:31] <ioria> Hideme, yes, usually the problem is ~/.config and ~/.compiz
[19:32] <Hideme> THank you.   I'll recreate users.
[19:32] <ioria> Hideme, remember to add user to sudo
[19:34] <h4k1m> hi everyone
[19:35] <mixxit> hi
[19:35] <h4k1m> I have only windows on my laptop, and I want to install ubuntu on my ssd hard-drive
[19:36] <h4k1m> Has anyone done something similar?
[19:36] <Bashing-om> !dualboot | h4k1m
[19:36] <mixxit> yep
[19:36] <h4k1m> I used to have a dual boot on my laptop's hard-drive
[19:37] <mixxit> but its really hard if its a modern laptop
[19:37] <mixxit> all the guides are a bit out of date
[19:37] <mixxit> battery management is not great in linux and it doesnt do well with switchable graphics
[19:37] <h4k1m> what I want to do now is (if possible), to keep Windows on my hard-driev
[19:37] <minimec> h4k1m: Do you have two harddrives available? Is it an external SSD?
[19:37] <h4k1m> minimec: yes an external ssd
[19:37] <mixxit> yeah thats fine but you should shrink the drive down a bit
[19:38] <h4k1m> mixxit: the internal one you mean?
[19:38] <mixxit> yep
[19:38] <h4k1m> minimec: btw where will grub be installed in this case?
[19:38] <mixxit> first do 'Try Ubuntu' from a boot usb and see if it all works properly
[19:38] <mixxit> grab rufus and the iso from the site
[19:38] <Bashing-om> h4k1m: Best to show the channel what we are working with . Can you boot up a liveDVD of 'buntu ?
[19:39] <ioria> h4k1m, on your externaal
[19:39] <h4k1m> Bashing-om: yes of course (as I said I used to have a dual-boot with Windows)
[19:39] <h4k1m> and that I removed ubuntu completely as I don't use it that often (all my softwares are on windows)
[19:40] <minimec> h4k1m: Ok. So basically you can just boot a live USB stick and use the external SDD as install medium. If you want to be sure, you can even remove the laptop hardrive. So you will not have any problem for the boot master sector. You moght have to disable EFI first in widows, but if you already had a dual boot system, you probably don't need to do that anymore.
[19:40] <h4k1m> ioria: does it mean that grub will be installed on the external hard-drive?
[19:40] <mustmodify> So the suggested escape sequence for an SSH session, ~. can't be typed (at least by me) because I need a shift for ~ but I need not to shift for .
[19:40] <ioria> h4k1m, yes
[19:40] <minimec> h4k1m: To boot ubuntu, you just set USB to be the first boot medium.
[19:41] <Bashing-om> h4k1m: :) .. Great , show us your system partitioning ' sudo parted -l ' in a pastebin site . And we go from there .
[19:41] <h4k1m> ioria: minimec thanks ^^, the question I still have to ask is whether it won't mess my windows bootloader
[19:41] <h4k1m> Bashing-om: I didn't try it yet (I wanted just to enquire first before giving it a try)
[19:41] <ioria> h4k1m, windows is on the internal drive ?
[19:41] <h4k1m> ioria: yes
[19:42] <ioria> h4k1m, no, it's fine
[19:43] <rojo> hello
[19:43] <rojo> clear
[19:43] <minimec> h4k1m: If you choose the SSD as install medium, it will also install grub to the master boot sector of the SSD (default setting). As said.. If you want to be sure, remove the windows harddrive (if that is possible).
[19:43] <h4k1m> ioria: do you know if it will give good performances (due to the fact that it's installed on an ssd hard-drive)?
[19:44] <h4k1m> minimec: yes but to remove windows' hard-drive I'd need to open my laptop...
[19:44] <ioria> h4k1m, ssd is good
[19:44] <h4k1m> minimec: I think I'll give it a try!
[19:45] <ioria> h4k1m,  usb connected ?
[19:45] <minimec> h4k1m: Performance is depending of the speed of your USB3 port, but generally you should not have a problem. You can speed up perfomance with some tricks after installation. Mount /tmp to RAM for example.
[19:45] <h4k1m> ioria: probably are there ssd hard-drives out there that plugged elsewhere (I dont have much experience with that)?
[19:47] <minimec> h4k1m: During installation, wirte down the /dev/sdX device youa re installing Ubuntu on. It will probably be /dev/sdb for the external SSD. Then you install brub on the same /dev/sdX device, and you are good.
[19:47] <ioria> h4k1m,  well, in theory sata-usb adapter... but not very practical
[19:48] <h4k1m> ioria: yes I see
[19:49] <ioria> h4k1m,  in the partitioning screen, in the installation process, remember to check (at bottom) the grub location
[19:51] <h4k1m> ioria: does it mean that grub will "kind-of" supersede windows' bootloader when the ssd disk is plugged (and the bios is set to boot from the usb device)?
[19:51] <ioria> h4k1m,  yes
[19:51] <h4k1m> ioria: Nice
[19:51] <h4k1m> ioria: minimec Bashing-om Thanks very much guys for the help ^^
[19:51] <ioria> h4k1m,  no prob
[19:52] <minimec> h4k1m: ^^
[19:52] <Bashing-om> h4k1m: :) Just try'n to help .
[19:56] <meth> Hello
[19:56] <meth> SOS
[19:56] <meth> it's super slow
[19:56] <bekks> Define "it".
[19:56] <meth> it's slow as turtles
[19:57] <meth> from boot to login screen > slow | from login screen to unity > slow | running any app > slow
[19:57] <meth> even shutdown is slow
[19:58] <SonikkuAmerica> meth - how much RAM is in your machine.
[19:58] <meth> the current one? it's 6GB
[19:58] <bekks> The machine you are running Ubuntu on.
[19:59] <meth> not only this machine, every machine i install ubuntu on it gets slow after dist-upgrade
[19:59] <mixxit> virtual machine or dedicated machine
[19:59] <meth> the issue isn't related me only, check this one https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2323156
[19:59] <meth> mixxit, dedicated.
[20:01] <jduck> hi. what does "DNE" mean here: https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2016/CVE-2016-5696.html ?
[20:02] <_adb> jduck: probably "does not exist"
[20:02] <Pici> jduck: Does Not Exist
[20:02] <jduck> my understanding is that is incorrect for almost every place it appears in this document.
[20:03] <jduck> Linux 3.6 < 4.7 are affected
[20:03] <meth> even after installing AMDGPU driver it's slow.
[20:03] <jduck> or to put it in mathy terms, Linux [3.6, 4.7)
[20:03] <Pici> jduck: But those specific source packages do not exist in every release.
[20:04] <jduck> Pici: you're telling me the linux kernel does not exist in every release?
[20:04] <Pici> jduck: linux-lts-trusty is only preseent int 12.04, so it DNE for the other Ubuntu releases listed.
[20:05] <jduck> Pici: thanks for your help, but i'll take it to the guys in the page
[20:12] <apb1963_> Aptitude is giving me an abortion when trying to install libsnmp-dev.  Details here: http://pastebin.com/AAaZgFid
[20:14] <rfdelta> Should I install ubuntu with secure boot on or off?
[20:15] <Jordan_U> rfdelta: If you have no sepecific reason to turn it off, then keep it on.
[20:15] <rachelr> New ubuntu user here.  Have it installed on a VPS.  Trying to get a MongoDB client on my local Macbook to access the MongoDB on my VPS.  I think it's a firewall issue but I'm not sure...http://stackoverflow.com/questions/39151140/cant-connect-to-ubuntu-mongodb-instance-from-mongochef-client
[20:15] <minimec> rfdelta: If you only have ubuntu on that machine, I would go without 'secure boot'. MY opninion... ;)
[20:19] <meth> why the gpu clock set to 33mhz?
[20:19] <Tims_Tech> so I installed lxde by typing:
[20:19] <Tims_Tech> sudo apt-get install lxde
[20:20] <Tims_Tech> but how to start it?
[20:20] <Tims_Tech> I read the official wiki
[20:20] <Tims_Tech> but both the command does not work :P
[20:20] <tgm4883> Tims_Tech: don't use enter as punctuation
[20:20] <Tims_Tech> sorry
[20:20] <tgm4883> Tims_Tech: have you tried selecting it from the login screen?
[20:21] <minimec> Tims_Tech: You might have to disable 'autologin' in >settings >users. Then logout the current session. You can then coose lxde in the login manager.
[20:21] <Tims_Tech> I don't see an option on the lock screen tgm4883
[20:21] <Tims_Tech> I don't have autologin enabled
[20:21] <tgm4883> Tims_Tech: It wouldn't be on the lock screen would be my guess
[20:22] <apb1963_> rachelr: I don't know anything about mongo or vps or macbook... but after reading your link, basic troubleshooting technique forces me to ask the question "What is the exact error message?"  Any request for help should always include that information.  If no error message... say that, but also include info as to how you determined "it doesn't work".
[20:22] <Tims_Tech> tgm4883, so do you have any idea how to start or select it?
[20:22] <tgm4883> Tims_Tech: about half way down this page is pictures and a description http://www.howtogeek.com/193129/how-to-install-and-use-another-desktop-environment-on-linux/
[20:22] <galabarg> The kubuntu channel is inactive right now, can I ask a question about a plasma problem here? Or would #kde be more appropriate?
[20:23] <tgm4883> Tims_Tech: look for "On Ubuntu’s default login screen — known as a display manager — this menu can be accessed by clicking an icon next to your user name. The icon only appears if multiple desktop environments are available. On other display managers, you may need to click a “Session” menu or a similar icon. You’ll find the option somewhere on
[20:23] <tgm4883> the screen."
[20:23] <rachelr> It's a timeout error, I will paste it.
[20:23] <fishscene> Does anyone know if it is possible to set up/configure https for a Snap package that only has http? Specifically for nextcloud
[20:23] <apb1963_> rachelr: you should also modify your question on stackoverlow to include it.
[20:24] <Tims_Tech> hmm
[20:24] <Tims_Tech> there is no options button
[20:24] <Tims_Tech> in the lockscreen tgm4883
[20:24] <galabarg> Does anyone have an answer to the question i just asked?
[20:25] <tgm4883> galabarg: don't ask to ask a question
[20:25] <minimec> galabarg: --> #kde. You will not find a lot of Plasma users here, I guess.
[20:25] <apb1963_> galabarg: just ask... if someone is offended they'll tell you... though I think I might ask in #kde first
[20:26] <galabarg> sorry, I'll go ahead and ask then and see if anyone knows: I just started using kubuntu is not remembering any of my shortcuts.
[20:26] <galabarg> *and it is
[20:27] <galabarg> For example, if I add an alternate shortcut to open the launcher with alt+z, it forgets about it after about 20 minutes.
[20:27] <galabarg> even in the same session
[20:27] <minimec> Tims_Tech: Logout the current session (or reboot). On the login screen you should have an ubuntu logo next to your user name. Click on it and choose the desktop environment... http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-OXA6gg2EBdA/VNK0dlwoz6I/AAAAAAAAEUE/fMzSkKPNeoI/s1600/LightDM_1.jpg
[20:28] <Tims_Tech> minimec, I don't have that
[20:28] <Tims_Tech> I just installed ubuntu 10 min ago
[20:28] <apb1963_> galabarg: Wild guess... but is sudo involved in any way?  Because 20 minutes is more or less about the time it seems to take for sudo to timeout.
[20:29] <Tims_Tech> minimec, so any idea?
[20:29] <galabarg> It's all done through the gui, and iirc it doesn't even ask for my password (since shortcuts are something that would presumably be specific to a user).
[20:29] <Tims_Tech> I really don't have that button :P
[20:30] <minimec> Tims_Tech: ok. Hmmm... The 'lxde' package you installed seems to be the right one (Metapackage for LXDE). MAybe try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm', to reconfigure the login manager
[20:31] <galabarg> If nobody knows then that's understandable; I'll try #kde.
[20:31] <Tims_Tech> minimec, still same :(
[20:31] <apb1963_> galabarg: Like I said... wild guess.  It's the only thing I can think of offhand that has about a 20 minute timeout.  I would investigate along those lines until a better idea (or more knowledgeable person) came along.
[20:32] <rachelr> Timed out after 30000 ms while waiting for a server that matches ReadPreferenceServerSelector{readPreference=primary}. Client view of cluster state is {type=UNKNOWN, servers=[{address=158.69.216.19:27017, type=UNKNOWN, state=CONNECTING, exception={com.mongodb.MongoSocketReadException: Prematurely reached end of stream}}]
[20:32] <rachelr> I'll screen shot and upload to SO.
[20:33] <Tims_Tech> minimec, it looks like this:(not my screenshot) http://www.tecmint.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Ubuntu-16.04-Login-Screen.png
[20:33] <apb1963_> rachelr: Yeah.. that information is HUGE.  Which is good.  Someone should be able to figure that out... I'll study it for a few minutes just in case something pops out.
[20:33] <rachelr> Appreciate it!
[20:33] <minimec> Tims_Tech: ok. Did you reboot that machine (just to be sure)?
[20:34] <Tims_Tech> I rebooted once, I will reboot again :P
[20:34] <apb1963_> rachelr: Actually... I would check to see that your server knows its a primary.
[20:34] <Tims_Tech> will be back in a min
[20:34] <apb1963_> rachelr: since it's saying "waiting for a server that matches ReadPreferenceServerSelector{readPreference=primary}"
[20:34] <rachelr> Sorry, a primary?  Not familiar with that lingo
[20:35] <apb1963_> rachelr: primary, secondary...
[20:35] <apb1963_> rachelr: just English :)
[20:36] <rachelr> lol
[20:37] <Tims_Tech_> still same mindandsky
[20:37] <rachelr> I guess I'm not familiar with how a server identifies as primary
[20:37] <Tims_Tech_> oops
[20:37] <Tims_Tech_> still same minimec
[20:37] <adamg> did we rule out firewalling?
[20:37] <apb1963_> rachelr: Here's another tidbit I found on SO: You should verify if the http interface is accessible with : localhost:28017 . If you are not able to access then verify if if any other service on that machine is accessible from the remote machine. If not that there is something which is blocking the remote machine from accessing services on your hosted ubuntu.
[20:37] <Tims_Tech_> I am on the latest release from ubuntu(16.04) and installed every update :P minimec
[20:37] <adamg> simple test for that would be to try "telnet 158.69.216.19 27017"
[20:38] <LocusAsaf> if I want to install a specific version of maven3, I understand i'm suppose to do `apt-get install maven=oldversion` where do I find out what to put for oldversion?
[20:38] <minimec> Tims_Tech_: Tims_Tech_ I am just looking here ( http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/lxde ) to find a hint...
[20:38] <Tims_Tech_> I am installing lsdm
[20:38] <Tims_Tech_> lxdm**
[20:38] <amnix> I bought a new SSD today and I have installed ubuntu on it... the problem is it's not booting. What do I do?
[20:39] <nacc> LocusAsaf: `apt-cache policy maven` will show you the available versions
[20:39] <rachelr> I can get to the remote www folder from the local machine. I have apache up and phpmyadmin as well working well
[20:40] <apb1963_> rachelr: Please do what adamg suggested and report
[20:41] <Tims_Tech_> let me reboot again
[20:42] <apb1963_> Aptitude is giving me an abortion when trying to install libsnmp-dev.  Details here: http://pastebin.com/AAaZgFid
[20:42] <minimec> Tims_Tech_: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure lxde-common' --> LXDE.desktop in http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/all/lxde-common/filelist
[20:43] <amnix> ssd not booting. help?
[20:43] <adamg> abhinand_: what's your lsb-release?
[20:43] <adamg> oh, sorry, apb1963_ ^
[20:44] <rachelr> Have to jump off, will try a bit later
[20:44] <apb1963_> adamg: http://pastebin.com/VK9QG3kN
[20:45] <adamg> apb1963_: i mean what ubuntu rev... cat /etc/lsb-release
[20:46] <apb1963_> DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS"adamg:
[20:47] <apb1963_> slight backwards but ok
[20:49] <apb1963_> adamg: this channel is so quiet these days I don't even know if I'm connected...  you get that?  ^^^^
[20:50] <adamg> apb1963_: try just "apt install libsnmp-dev". (maybe with :i386, i don't know anything around what that does or when it's needed). What I hear from debian peoples is that apt is generally better (and yes, it's just apt, not apt-get)
[20:53] <apb1963_> adamg: yeah, I don't know what the i:386 is all about either... it's trying to determine whether to install x or x:i386,  I have a ton of installs exactly the same.  No clue.
[20:54] <apb1963_> adamg: libsnmp-dev is already the newest version.
[20:54] <adamg> okay, so proceed as if everything is well and see if anything breaks :P
[20:57] <apb1963_> adamg: I guess I could sub apt for aptitude everywhere... but  honestly I don't like modifying other people's scripts that have apparently worked for hundreds of other people.
[20:57] <apb1963_> adamg: either sub apt or remove that particular pre-req
[20:58] <adamg> worked at some point... the i386 makes me think it may be out of date
[20:58] <_adb> did ubuntu ever have a virtual package for lamp? that doesn't exist anymore does it?
[20:58] <gian86> ciao
[20:58] <apb1963_> adamg: well.. that's the thing.. the script doesn't hard code the i386..
[20:58] <gian86> !list
[20:58] <apb1963_> adamg: give me a minute... i'll paste it
[20:59] <k1l> !lamp | _adb
[20:59] <k1l> _adb: actually that is a tasksel
[21:00] <apb1963_> adamg: http://pastebin.com/Jf32kwSb
[21:00] <dfgss> what's the official linux-mint irc channel ?
[21:00] <k1l> !mint | dfgss
[21:00] <dfgss> anyone know?
[21:02] <adamg> apb1963_: i don't even see how :i386 gets in there...
[21:02] <dfgss> do you guys know what is update in inhibit  means
[21:02] <_adb> k1l: so what's the deal iwth the caret? haven't seen taht before.. does it carry special meaning? package lamp-server doesn't show up when i search for it
[21:02] <k1l> dfgss: ask the mint guys. they handle updates differently
[21:03] <k1l> _adb: its a tasksel, not a package
[21:03] <k1l> _adb: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Tasksel
[21:03] <apb1963_> adamg: it comes from the awk statement
[21:03] <_adb> k1l: thanks
[21:03] <apb1963_> adamg: which merely prints what aptitude is returning.
[21:03] <apb1963_> adamg: from a search
[21:04] <apb1963_> adamg: definitely not obvious.. had to stare at it for a few minutes
[21:04] <adamg> well, I got nothing.
[21:05] <apb1963_> adamg: well... one thing I noticed when I gave you that lsb-release info is that it says amd64
[21:05] <apb1963_> so... that kinda blows my mind
[21:06] <jakubko> hi
[21:06] <rockstar5> hello guys I need help with something. I would like to play music from Android device to my PC speakers. the device is connected to a WiFi router on my PC which in turn is connected to an ADSL router which my PC uses for internet. I know how to stream to A2dp with bluetooth dongle but would like to do so somehow with wifi but can't find how since they are
[21:06] <rockstar5> not using the same wifi connection
[21:07] <rockstar5> is this possible?
[21:11] <minimec> rockstar5: I would think of an application like BubbleUPnP, that would share the music in the whole home network. Then use an UPnP player on ubuntu on the desktop...
[21:12] <apb1963_> adamg: This is where it comes from: aptitude -F '%c %p' search libsnmp-dev
[21:12] <rockstar5> which upnp player for desktop should I use? I tried rygel and minidlna but it doesn't get detected on bubbleupnp, maybe it might be because it's not a direct connection to the same wifi?
[21:13] <apb1963_> adamg: awk  matches the p at the beginning of the string, and then prints that line... resulting in libsnmp-dev:i386
[21:13] <_adb> i'm trying to grok the distinction between tasksels and virtual packages. who decides what's what and how do they determine this? it isn't necessary to install the tasksel package to use tasksels (however the note "Calling tasks from apt-get is not documented anywhere" doesn't inspire much confidence), but the tasksel package is needed to know which tasksels exist and what they contain? how does apt know?
[21:15] <minimec> rockstar5: vlc. Or there is this nifty application called 'djmount'. You could then mount the UPnP share as a folder in the filesystme
[21:15] <minimec> rockstar5: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=all&section=all&arch=any&keywords=djmount&searchon=names
[21:16] <rockstar5> thanks I will look into it
[21:17] <minimec> rockstar5: https://codeyarns.com/2015/01/28/how-to-mount-media-server-using-djmount/
[21:18] <SparkySquirrel> I need to install the AAC decoder for videos in Ubuntu 16.10, how would I do that?
[21:18] <SparkySquirrel> It's the LiveUSB lol
[21:23] -iTs_mY_LifE`:#ubuntu- #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. JOIN US AT #WRONGPLANET ! #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. JOIN US AT #WRONGPLANET ! #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. JOIN US AT #WRONGPLANET ! #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. JOIN US AT #WRONGPLANET ! #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. JOIN US AT #WRONGPLANET ! #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. JOIN US AT #WRONGPLANET !
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[21:23] -sunno_toe:#ubuntu- #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. JOIN US AT #WRONGPLANET ! #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. JOIN US AT #WRONGPLANET ! #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. JOIN US AT #WRONGPLANET ! #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. JOIN US AT #WRONGPLANET ! #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. JOIN US AT #WRONGPLANET ! #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. JOIN US AT #WRONGPLANET !
[21:23] -decent_guy:#ubuntu- #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. JOIN US AT #WRONGPLANET ! #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. JOIN US AT #WRONGPLANET ! #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. JOIN US AT #WRONGPLANET ! #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. JOIN US AT #WRONGPLANET ! #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. JOIN US AT #WRONGPLANET ! #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. JOIN US AT #WRONGPLANET !
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[21:24] -_-Shagy-_:#ubuntu- #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. JOIN US AT #WRONGPLANET ! #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. JOIN US AT #WRONGPLANET ! #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. JOIN US AT #WRONGPLANET ! #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. JOIN US AT #WRONGPLANET ! #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. JOIN US AT #WRONGPLANET ! #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. JOIN US AT #WRONGPLANET !
[21:24] <minimec> SparkySquirrel: That would still be possible if you added some resident space, when creating the LiveUSB stick, as far as I know... 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras'
[21:26] <minimec> SparkySquirrel: or... sudo apt-get install gstreamer1.0-libav gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg
[21:33] <Netek> what was that?  wrongplanet says that with ubuntu you lose??  hah  is this called spam?
[21:33] <dax> Netek: somebody being silly, just ignore it
[21:33] <dax> it's been handled
[21:34] <Netek> dax ok.  I been on here for a while now and I never see that happen before
[21:34] <dax> Netek: we're a large channel, so people get kicks out of being silly in front of an audience :(
[21:35] <Netek> dax so like in real life then :)
[21:35] <dax> quite
[21:38] <Rexy> I know there's a command to show what happened today in history. I can't remember it for the life of me.
[21:38] <Rexy> Anyone know it?
[21:39] <minimec> Netek: THX to you I know now, that my filter is working... ;)
[21:39] <minimec> For irrsi users.... '/ignore * -regexp -pattern #WRONGPLANET'
[21:40] <Netek> thanks to me? heh you are very welcome -_-
[21:41] <minimec> Netek: I do not get any of these wrongplanet messages anymore....
[21:41] <minimec> Netek: They are simply ignored...
[21:41] <Netek> ok cool
[21:42] <Rexy> Am I just losing it, or is there a history command
[21:42] <Netek> they dont really bother me that much so heh
[21:43] <xenialmess> I am having trouble downloading any xenial desktop .iso
[21:44] <xenialmess> Direct download always fails immediately.  Torrent links fail to load.  None of the mirrors in any country are successful.
[21:44] <Rexy> xenialmess: is it a problem with your ISP possibly?
[21:45] <xenialmess> Anyone else confirm or potentially an ISP block?
[21:45] <Rexy> works fine for me
[21:45] <xenialmess> It could be.  Currently at my girlfriend's University.
[21:45] <paranoidabhi> hi!
[21:45] <paranoidabhi> Question: http://askubuntu.com/questions/816848/burst-of-sound-whenever-audio-starts
[21:45] <transhuman_> Hi! This is my quandry ubuntu 14.04 does not have ffmpeg in the repository and its a very long process to install. Ubuntu 15.04 is no longer supported so it looks like do-release-upgrade will work. Thirdly my video card will not work (on the chip with 16.04) any suggestions?
[21:45] <keepguessing> I am on ubuntu 16.04
[21:46] <paranoidabhi> This is likely a hardware not a kde one. (I asked in kde)
[21:46] <paranoidabhi> Please have a look if possible.
[21:46] <Rexy> xenialmess: They probley dont' want people downloading Linux ISOs in thier network /s
[21:46] <keepguessing> I cannot see my launcher taskbar and no shortcuts are working.
[21:46] <xenialmess> @Rexy typical reasons for this being?
[21:46] <transhuman_> sorry do-release-upgrade WONT work
[21:46] <keepguessing> Also I cannot move my windows or do alt-tab.
[21:47] <Rexy> transhuman_: Find your video card, and see if you need specific drivers for it?
[21:47] <keepguessing> I tried dconf --reset
[21:47] <keepguessing> Any suggestions are highly appretiated.
[21:47] <Rexy>  wouldnt want people torrenting there
[21:47] <Rexy> other than that no idea why the mirrors arent working
[21:47] <Rexy> go ask IT
[21:48] <xenialmess> hb direct download though?  probably large file size restrictions or something? yeah, ill have to ask it.
[21:49] <transhuman_> been down that road for 16.04 it aint happening. cant install the nvidia drivers cause of an init level problem where I cant get enough to install from boot and it isnt recognized in the system settings...a whole host of issues with 16.04 would be better to just upgrade to 15.04 but that is not possible correct?
[21:49] <Amm0n> transhuman_, for 14.04 ffmpeg is avconv (which was a fork from ubuntu for some license reasons iirc)
[21:50] <transhuman_> right but it has returned in 15.04
[21:50] <transhuman_> wait your saying its now called avconv?
[21:51] <Amm0n> no it was called avconv in 14.04, you're right that it has returned
[21:51] <transhuman_> so there is no way to get 15.04 to install anymore?
[21:51] <Amm0n> it sounded like you just need ffmpeg on 14.04
[21:51] <bekks> !15.04 | transhuman_
[21:52] <transhuman_> its a real real long compile process frought with disaster for sure
[21:52] <bekks> transhuman_: If you are still running 15.04 it is time to update.
[21:52] <Rexy> xenialmess: they might even have a mirror at the uni
[21:52] <Rexy> If so that'd be baller
[21:53] <zodiac19_> Is there an autokey script that can run a specific terminal command?
[21:53] <xenialmess> Thanks @Rexy.  I'll check that out.
[21:53] <transhuman_> ok I will upgrade to 15.10 from 14.04
[21:53] <transhuman_> cant do 16.04 because of video card issues
[21:53] <bekks> zodiac19_: create a new hotkey, assign your script to be executed.
[21:53] <bekks> transhuman_: then you have to reinstall 14.04
[21:54] <keepguessing> Can anyone suggest me a solution please
[21:54] <zodiac19_> I mean I need a script that can run a terminal command...
[21:54] <bekks> zodiac19_: every script can run a terminal command.
[21:54] <zodiac19_> okay then... thanks
[21:54] <transhuman_> bekks no I am STILL ON 14.04 backed up my crap and reinstalled 14.04 after a disaster with 16.04
[21:55] <Rexy> zodiac19_: You should be able to set hotkeys with whatever DE your using
[21:55] <transhuman_> I will do 15.10
[21:55] <bekks> transhuman_: then just use avconv instead of ffmpeg.
[21:55] <Rexy> I'd search your DE + Hotkeys or something
[21:55] <bekks> !15.10 | transhuman_
[21:55] <transhuman_> bekks I will try that is it actually the full thing or is it a basterdized version without the functionality?
[21:56] <zodiac19_> I keep getting the error "the script 'rotate screen' has encountered an error"
[21:56] <bekks> transhuman_: whatever a "basterdized" version might be. There had been a fork from ffmpeg resulting in avconv.
[21:56] <transhuman_> ok thanks i will try it
[21:57] <alesan> hello
[21:57] <xenialmess> still here
[21:57] <alesan> my apt-get update is *extremely* slow
[21:58] <alesan> it's been going on for more than an hour now
[21:58] <alesan> and it's not really finished yet...
[21:58] <alesan> any advice what I should try???
[21:58] <bekks> alesan: interrupt it and change mirrors.
[21:58] <alesan> bekks, OK but how can I chenge them? I have ssh access to that machine.
[21:59] <bekks> alesan: change them in /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:59] <zodiac19_> xrandr --output LVDS1 --rotate right
[21:59] <zodiac19_> is there something wrong with this terminal command?
[22:00] <bekks> zodiac19_: open a terminal and try.
[22:01] <zodiac19_> it works in the terminal
[22:01] <zodiac19_> just not in autokey
[22:01] <skinux> Anyone know of a GUI App type of some sort where I can install a web application as it's own software, including an independent web browser (and built-in web server) for it to run within?
[22:01] <bekks> zodiac19_: what is this "autokey" thing you are talking about?
[22:01] <skinux> I'm pretty sure Adobe Air was discontinued...
[22:01] <zodiac19_> It's a program that maps keyboard and script functions to shortcuts
[22:02] <alesan> bekks, should I change them all by hand???
[22:02] <bekks> !info autokey
[22:02] <bekks> alesan: sure.
[22:02] <alesan> there's at least 25 lines with "http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/" as host/URL
[22:02] <zodiac19_> i'm using lubuntu, and everytime I ask the lubuntu channel they tell me to come here
[22:02] <alesan> it seems strange there isn't a tool that will change them automatically
[22:03] <zodiac19_> should I be using something else to map this shortcut?
[22:03] <alesan> and which mirror should I put instead?
[22:03] <bekks> alesan: which one are you using currently?
[22:03] <alesan> "http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/" as I mentioned above
[22:03]  * chxgo waves hello
[22:04] <lordcirth> zodiac19_, you've tested that the command works in a terminal without root?
[22:04] <zodiac19_> it works fine if i enter it just like that in the terminal, just not when I try to use it as a script in autokey
[22:05] <lordcirth> zodiac19_, try launching autokey from the command line, pressing the button, and see if you get an error on the command line.
[22:05] <bekks> zodiac19_: so create a script, containing that command, and use your script in autokey.
[22:05] <minimec> zodiac19_: I suggest 'xbindkeys'. https://www.linux.com/news/start-programs-pro-xbindkeys
[22:07] <zodiac19_> and I start all over >.<
[22:08] <zodiac19_> updating apt entry >.<
[22:08] <bekks> zodiac19_: what for?
[22:09] <zodiac19_> terminal install, I just use update after I install anything
[22:10] <sjoshi> a/quit
[22:11] <keepguessing> I am on ubuntu 16.04 and "suddenly" I see no launcher/taskbar
[22:11] <lordcirth> keepguessing, is it hidden if you mouse over the edge?
[22:12] <k1l> keepguessing: logout and try the guest account. does that work properly?
[22:13] <keepguessing> k1l: thanks I will check that
[22:13] <k1l> keepguessing: because if guest accunt doenst work, its a driver issue. if it does work its a user setting from that user.
[22:15] <keepguessing> k1l: yes it works
[22:16] <keepguessing> k1l: I have not changed anything. Except for the reset.
[22:16] <k1l> keepguessing: what reset?
[22:16] <keepguessing> k1l: dconf reset -f /org/compiz/
[22:19] <codfection> hello
[22:19] <codfection> wifi in ubuntu is slow
[22:19] <codfection> how to fix?
[22:19] <k1l> keepguessing: login to tty (ctrl+alt+f1) as that user or start a terminal with ctrl+alt+t on the desktop. then run "mv .config .config_backup". after that relogin as the user. that should work then. then you can copy back the stuff inside .config_backup to the .config folder from the programs you want to use the old setups
[22:19] <codfection> windows has fast wifi.. using same internet
[22:20] <lordcirth> codfection, you'll need to post what wifi adapter you are using and what driver is loaded.  Also what Ubuntu version.
[22:21] <codfection> 16.04
[22:21] <codfection> how to know wifi adapter
[22:21] <codfection> cant find drivers in driver section
[22:21] <keepguessing> k1l: shortcuts are not working.
[22:21] <codfection> k1l, help!
[22:22] <keepguessing> k1l: when you say .config do we need ~/.config ?
[22:23] <k1l> keepguessing: yes its that folder. programs and desktop settings are stored there. one of them is an issue. so renaming it to .config_backup will make it create a clean .config on relogin
[22:23] <lordcirth> codfection, lspci should tell you your wifi adapter.
[22:24] <codfection> Intel Corporation Centrino Advanced-N 6205
[22:24] <codfection> lordcirth,
[22:25] <lordcirth> codfection, also " lshw -c | grep driver "
[22:25] <tardrard> Are we living in the last days
[22:26] <tardrard> Is there any way to install fglrx in ubuntu yet
[22:26] <lordcirth> tardrard, in 16.04? Not really
[22:26] <lordcirth> And there won't be
[22:26] <codfection> is it possible to run i3 on ubuntu 16.04?
[22:26] <k1l> tardrard: there will not be a fglrx anymore. use the open source radeon and amd_gpu if your card is new enough
[22:27] <tgm4883> tardrard: AMDGPU and radeon are the future
[22:27] <codfection> who uses amd huh
[22:27] <tardrard> k1l: hdmi needs scaling on my old tv
[22:27] <codfection> tardrard, go to display setting
[22:27] <tardrard> Xrandr not good
[22:27] <codfection> why
[22:28] <k1l> tardrard: amd doesnt make fglrx anymore. they make amd_gpu now.
[22:28] <keepguessing> k1l: I did that and the problem is still the same. I can see a lot of configurations etc is missing.
[22:28] <OerHeks> beta driver™ RX 480 RX 470 R9 Fury/Fury X/Nano
[22:28] <OerHeks> R9 M395X 390X M385 380X 360 290x 285 m270x 260x
[22:28] <zodiac19_> about to shoot myself, xbindkeys is not performing the command
[22:28] <tardrard> codfection: if it was there was the setting in the monitor I would not care
[22:29] <bekks> zodiac19_: create script containing your command, and run your script using xbindkeys.
[22:29] <lordcirth> !info i3 | codfection
[22:29] <tardrard> keepguessing: there are no settings. Just monitor resolution
[22:30] <zodiac19_> I tried that already >.<
[22:30] <bekks> zodiac19_: can you pastebin your script then?
[22:31] <zodiac19_> one sec
[22:33] <keepguessing> tardrard: I see. What else can I try now?
[22:34] <bekks> tardrard: Stop calling me names in an unasked, unwanted query.
[22:34] <keepguessing> tardrard: k1l When I launch the command unity is starts it. but I still cannot move the windows
[22:34] <k1l> keepguessing: and the guest account works properly?
[22:34] <lordcirth> bekks, I bet it's the same guy as earlier
[22:34] <keepguessing> k1l: yes
[22:35] <xczxc> any tool  for checking system file checksum against repo
[22:35] <bekks> xczxc: apt/apt-get does that automatically upon installing a package.
[22:36] <keepguessing> k1l: I am logging into guest to confirm again.
[22:37] <keepguessing> k1l: yes everything works fine in a guest section.
[22:37] <xczxc> bekks , what happen if i want to recheck all system files ?
[22:37] <k1l> keepguessing: so you renamed the ".config" folder in that users home?
[22:38] <bekks> xczxc: that cant be done that easily, because every single  file doesnt have a checksum in the repos, only the packages containing those files have.
[22:38] <keepguessing> k1l: I did mv ~/.config /backup/
[22:39] <corollax_> When I select a different hardware device for sound output, I have to close and reopen my browser before it plays on the right location. How can I change this so changing the output device affects running programs?
[22:39] <k1l> keepguessing: did you run with sudo?
[22:39] <keepguessing> k1l: Is there a log file or something I need to do.
[22:39] <k1l> .xsession-errors in that users home
[22:39] <k1l> and xorg.log in /var/log
[22:39] <keepguessing> k1l: I checked with an ls -la ~/.config and it said folder does not exist
[22:41] <zodiac19> I'll have to get the rotate fixed some other time :/ I followed all the instructions for xbinkeys and it doesnt want to work
[22:43] <keepguessing> k1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23090929/
[22:43] <keepguessing> here is the xsession output
[22:44] <k1l> keepguessing: "ls -al" in that users home. what does depend root?
[22:45] <k1l> *what is owned by root
[22:45] <zodiac19> thanks anyway, I'll have to read up on Xbindkeys a bit more
[22:47] <keepguessing> k1l: .dbus .gvfs .viminfo
[22:48] <k1l> sudo chown -R username:username .dbus
[22:48] <k1l> use your actual username there
[22:49] <keepguessing> k1l: thanks doing it.
[22:50] <blackdiaamond> anyone here?
[22:50] <blackdiaamond> I need help with solus installation :(
[22:50] <bekks> !info solus
[22:51] <bekks> blackdiaamond: what is "solus"?
[22:51] <lordcirth> The distro Solus?
[22:51] <blackdiaamond> I'm trying to install solus to a clean HDD and it always gets stuck on unmounting filesystems
[22:52] <bekks> blackdiaamond: So please ask the Solus support community. This is Ubuntu support only.
[22:52] <lordcirth> blackdiaamond, this is the Ubuntu support channel.
[22:52] <blackdiaamond> okay thx
[22:52] <Compu> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel-lts-xenial/+bug/1614676 can someone look into this bug? i'd like to be able to play games on my computer again
[22:56] <keepguessing> k1l: same issues
[22:56] <keepguessing> However I see one less error in the xsession-erros file
[22:57] <gb_mks> Hi, i´m having problems with click-review package
[22:57] <k1l> keepguessing: what ubuntu is that ? 16.04? with unity?
[22:58] <keepguessing> 16.04
[22:58] <gb_mks> someone can help? the error is -> ERROR: Could not find vendor 'ubuntu'
[22:58] <keepguessing> k1l: I think its unity.
[22:58] <k1l> keepguessing: is libpcre3-dev installed?
[23:00] <keepguessing> k1l: I will check.
[23:01] <blindmind> Test
[23:02] <keepguessing> k1l: no. I have installed it now and verifying.
[23:03] <blindmind> What are you installing?
[23:06] <keepguessing> k1l: Installing libpcre3-dev did not work. I ran the command unity and saw the following outpyt on the shell. http://paste.ubuntu.com/23090982/
[23:06] <stan_man_can> Whats the best way to get an up to date version of Vagrant on 16.04?
[23:07] <k1l> keepguessing: relogin from lightdm
[23:07] <stan_man_can> It ships with 1.8.1 but I need at least 1.8.4
[23:07] <stan_man_can> Kinda surprised it's not up to date since somewhere between .1 and .4 we're some ubuntu specific fixes
[23:07] <keepguessing> k1l: ?
[23:09] <k1l> keepguessing: dont try to run unity. just relogin, that will start unity properly (if the issue is fixed)
[23:10] <k1l> keepguessing: "sudo apt install unity-tweak-tool" then run "gksudo unity-tweak-tool --reset-unity"
[23:14] <keepguessing> k1l: unrecognized option --reset-unity
[23:16] <k1l> then i dont know.
[23:16] <keepguessing> k1l: I ran sudo unity-tweak-tool --reset-unity and it made some changes
[23:16] <keepguessing> I can see boundaries for my windows.
[23:16] <keepguessing> and can move them now
[23:16] <k1l> relogin then
[23:21] <tari> Guys.
[23:22] <tari> Are u alive?
[23:22] <lordcirth> tari, yes, why?
[23:22] <OerHeks> stan_man_can, wget https://releases.hashicorp.com/vagrant/1.8.4/vagrant_1.8.4_x86_64.deb
[23:22] <tari> i m not feel as alive :)
[23:23] <llror> Hi
[23:23] <Compu> theyre alive for everyone except me :/
[23:23] <llror> Can you sync your android phone with ubuntu?
[23:23] <Compu> llror: what exactly do u want to sync
[23:23] <llror> being able to access the files etc
[23:23] <llror> on the phone
[23:24] <llror> music, etc
[23:24] <Compu> ah that can be done with es file explorer
[23:24] <k1l> llror: yes.
[23:24] <k1l> llror: just connect the usb cable?
[23:24] <Compu> es file explorer lets u run a temporary ftp server to access the files on ur phone and upload/download stuff
[23:25] <SparkySquirrel> tari: what's wrong?
[23:25] <Compu> k1l: not eveyone knows how to get mtp stuff working in ubuntu
[23:25] <k1l> Compu: it works ootb with nautilus
[23:25] <Compu> nope
[23:25] <llror> Ok thanks
[23:25] <lordcirth> A lot of things that are supposed to work ootb don't.
[23:25] <Compu> k1l: no u have to install a package or u just get "access denied"
[23:26] <k1l> ah, seems like you need to isntall mtpfs
[23:26] <Compu> yeah thats the one
[23:26] <k1l> but that is way better than running a stupid ftp.
[23:26] <Compu> and even then it gets picky
[23:26] <keepguessing> k1l: does not work. I think your estimation of "check which directories in /home/superman are owned by root" is right
[23:26] <keepguessing> I think some files are owned by root. even after reset
[23:27] <Compu> i've been waiting for weeks here for a response to my problem
[23:27] <tari> So, if we r alive 1866 people in here what is the purpose?
[23:28] <lordcirth> tari, this is the Ubuntu support channel
[23:28] <YankDownUnder> The purpose is to just make up numbers. No one is here to do anything constructive. (That is sarcasm, by the way)
[23:29] <Compu> for a support channel theres not a lot of support
[23:29] <k1l> keepguessing: well, "sudo chown -R user:user /home/user"
[23:29] <k1l> Compu: yeah, especially when users just use this channel for ranting
[23:29] <YankDownUnder> Compu: Patience and time. If you're relatively "new" to IRC, sometimes, answers will take days...
[23:29] <keepguessing> k1l: yess thats my next step. I think I started facing this after apt-get update.
[23:30] <tari> Yeah im using ubuntu. im @ ubuntu support channel. any support right?
[23:30] <k1l> keepguessing: apt update just gets a list of packages from the servers. it doesnt change anything
[23:30] <keepguessing> k1l: I meant upgrade
[23:30] <SparkySquirrel> tari: anything! but I gotta go to work or whatever with my mom so chao!
[23:30] <lordcirth> tari, we would be happy to attempt to help, if you stated a problem.
[23:31] <tari> timezone probably :)
[23:31] <OerHeks> Compu, don 't wait weeks to come in here, but your intel problem cannot be fixed i guess, standard intel kernel driver for your 4th generation
[23:31] <Compu> YankDownUnder: if by days u mean weeks then i've already been through here
[23:31] <SparkySquirrel> timezone is easy tari
[23:31] <Compu> OerHeks: so what am i meant to do?
[23:31] <k1l> Compu: stop ranting. ask a detailed question and people will help if they can
[23:31] <Compu> i did
[23:32] <Compu> like 3 weeks ago
[23:32] <keepguessing> k1l: Is the unity-tweak-tool --reset-unity command supposed to return?
[23:32] <lordcirth> The bug was confirmed 6 days ago, so that's progress, Compu
[23:32] <tari> i didnt an attempt. to setup spotify is an hour for me :) im beginner but just found this chat. '' actually chat ''
[23:32] <Compu> uh no it really isnt
[23:32] <Compu> it was only confirmed because it got a single "me too"
[23:33] <SparkySquirrel_> hi tari lol I accidentally closed my IRC
[23:33] <k1l> keepguessing: no. maybe just a new prompt. which means: nothing to worry
[23:33] <SparkySquirrel_> so this timezone thing is easy, you just open gnome-terminal by pressing Alt+F2 on your keyboard
[23:33] <SparkySquirrel_> then you type: date and press enter
[23:33] <SparkySquirrel_> I mean, type this: date
[23:33] <SparkySquirrel_> then press enter
[23:34] <lordcirth> Compu, have you tried running a 16.04 liveusb to see if the driver works?
[23:34] <SparkySquirrel_> you'll see your current timezone as three letters
[23:34] <tari> im just looking for a new space.. Ubuntu great for me. No game no more childish things :p i guess i m getting older :=
[23:34] <SparkySquirrel_> then you can change it easy
[23:34] <tari> Any support :P
[23:34] <k1l> !ot | tari
[23:34] <Compu> lord4163: it's the same driver
[23:34] <lordcirth> Compu, ah ok
[23:34] <Compu> thats the entire point of the hardware enablement stack
[23:34] <OerHeks> Compu install 16.04 cleanly, it contains systemd and better performance.
[23:35] <tari> thanks ubottu.
[23:35] <Compu> OerHeks: and just wipe everything i have out?
[23:35] <SparkySquirrel_> tari: well let's join ##linux-offtopic k?
[23:35] <keepguessing> k1l: I do not get a new prompt. It hangs
[23:35] <OerHeks> if you don't have a backup, your data is not important.
[23:35] <OerHeks> :-D
[23:35] <Compu> OerHeks: or we're poor and cant afford anything to back up to?
[23:35] <tari> SparkySquirrel_ How?
[23:36] <SparkySquirrel_> erm rather #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:36] <SparkySquirrel_> type this
[23:36] <OerHeks> but read the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes first, lots of thinks to know
[23:36] <SparkySquirrel_> /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:36] <SparkySquirrel_> then press enter
[23:36] <tari> Yeah i solved.
[23:37] <Compu> OerHeks: upgrades never, ever go well
[23:37] <Compu> literally never
[23:37] <lordcirth> Compu, that is probably why he said to clean install.
[23:37] <Compu> and i know for a fact that 16.04 breaks banshee media player
[23:38] <i-> I have a question to ask about snapcraft - why does it only have 2 packages (from what I see)
[23:38] <lordcirth> Also I've had some 14.04 -> 16.04 upgrades work fine
[23:38] <OerHeks> .. that is your opinion, not verifyable as we cannot tell what you have added/tweaked.
[23:38] <Compu> lordcirth: and i would lose everything
[23:38] <Compu> OerHeks: i tried banshee on a brand new 16.04 install on my mom's computer and yes 16.04 definitely breaks banshee
[23:39] <Compu> whenever u try to import music in banshee it freezes, this doesnt happen in 14.04
[23:39] <Compu> in fact the same thing happened with rhythmbox
[23:39] <Corruptus> Anyone having trouble with 16.04 mate on a Ras Pi 3? Mine keeps crashing during setup
[23:40] <docmur> I'm getting this error, on my webserver:  You don't have permission to access / on this server.  Server unable to read htaccess file, denying access to be safe.  I have the entire directory 777, I'm running ubuntu 16.04
[23:41] <Compu> docmur: check the permissions on the .htaccess file
[23:42] <docmur> -rwxrwxrw-  1 www-data www-data
[23:42] <Compu> docmur: what user is the webserver process running under?
[23:43] <lordcirth> I wonder if Apache refuses to read an htaccess that is world-writable. I know ssh does a similar thing.
[23:43] <docmur> www-data, but if I have it 777, that should override any user setting
[23:43] <Compu> and where is ur .htaccess file located?
[23:44] <Compu> it should be in the root of the webserver where ur index.html would be
[23:44] <docmur> in the web root
[23:44] <Compu> try restarting the webserver
[23:44] <docmur> I'm starting to think this has nothing to do with Ubuntu, I'm going to switch to 14.04 and try again
[23:45] <lordcirth> docmur, Apache problems are rarely distro-specific in my experience
[23:46] <docmur> I've never seen this before with any other project, and the project really doens't support 16.04 yet, so I'm going to try on the mainline for the project
[23:46] <avail> you know
[23:46] <avail> this ubuntu
[23:46] <avail> shit
[23:46] <avail> aint too hard
[23:46] <avail> i think i can learn
[23:46] <avail> how to hack
[23:46] <avail> in a few weeks
[23:47] <avail> lol. neh
[23:47] <Triptich> now learn how to use . and , instead of enter
[23:49] <marlinc> I'm not sure what's up but the /etc/mtab symlink to ../proc/self/mounts doesn't work. It says no such file or directory
[23:49] <marlinc> Changing the symlink to /proc/self/mounts does work however
[23:50] <mijk> anyone still using old releases of Ubuntu? like EOL releases
[23:50] <ksft-mobile> I can't connect to wifi.
[23:50] <ksft-mobile> I'm on 16.04.
[23:51] <ksft-mobile>  I upgraded recently, but it had worked since I upgraded.
[23:51] <ksft-mobile> has*
[23:51] <Compu> ksft-mobile: did u check the additional drivers utility?
[23:52] <ksft-mobile> Compu: It says it's using the proprietary driver.
[23:52] <Compu> ksft-mobile: what does the networking dropdown thing look like?
[23:52] <ksft-mobile> It lists the network's.
[23:52] <ksft-mobile> networks*
[23:52] <Compu> what happens when u click on one?
[23:52] <ksft-mobile> that was autocorrect
[23:53] <Compu> ksft-mobile: what happens when u click on one?
[23:53] <ksft-mobile> The signal icon thing flashes, and then it stops and says I'm disconnected
[23:54] <Bashing-om> marlinc: Why the symlink ? " sysop@1404mini:~$ ls -al /etc/mtab >> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 830 Aug 25 13:52 /etc/mtab ' .
[23:54] <marlinc> That's new on 16.04 apparently, systemd appears to require it
[23:54] <GEEMac> Hi folks, It's been almost two weeks since a fresh install of 16.04. A week since I filed a bug report.  I still have to ytpe " xrandr -s 1920x1080  " at every boot up or log in.  I have messed with xorg.conf, Lightdm, and even tried to place the line at startup.  Still not working. Any way of saving my screen resolution?  I did not have this issue in 14.04 LTS with the same computer hardware.
[23:55] <Compu> ksft-mobile: have u rebooted and then tried connecting?
[23:55] <OerHeks> ksft-mobile, what is the output of:   lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net
[23:55] <ksft-mobile> I hadn't tried rebooting
[23:55] <ksft-mobile> trying now…
[23:55] <Compu> ok
[23:55] <ksft-mobile> well then
[23:55] <Compu> rebooting is always a good idea
[23:55] <YankDownUnder> GEEMac: You can use "arandr" to read the scripts for xrandr and have it in your login scripts...I do this...
[23:55] <ksft-mobile> I guess I should have tried that first
[23:56] <ksft-mobile> it worked
[23:56] <Compu> well there ya go
[23:56] <Compu> theres a reason "did u try turning it off and on again?" is a thing
[23:56] <ksft-mobile> yup
[23:57] <ksft> I still wonder what happened
[23:57] <ksft> I wasn't even using my computer when it stopped working
[23:57] <wiggmpk> I have an issue with resizing a window. I have a lower resolution 1366x768 and need to stretch the window. So I move it off screen and attempt to stretch it. Once I start moving the window size, it snaps back on screen and I dont have the screen space to resize it anymore. How can I disable this 'feature"
[23:58] <Compu> ksft: could be a number of things ranging from bugs in a driver to a cosmic ray hitting the RAM in ur computer just right
[23:58] <YankDownUnder> Compu: Solar flares.
[23:58] <GEEMac> YankDownUnder, Hi...  I have no clue about how to do that.  I spet almost a week reading all the old issues which realy didi not aply to 16.04.  Placing anything in startup now is a bust since that is not being read either.  I place three items in startup and not one of them are read.  Not sure if I am going to make a bug report on that yet.
[23:59] <OerHeks> wiggmpk, ALT + left mouse: drag window ( or hold win key to see all options )
[23:59] <GEEMac> And I'm on a wireless keyboard please excuse the typos.
[23:59] <YankDownUnder> GEEMac: Firstly, install "arandr" => "sudo apt-get install arandr => after that, read the docs on it, you can create a "shell script" that will "reset" your default and then stick it in your autorun's
[23:59] <wiggmpk> OerHeks I should have mentioned I'm using gnome-shell (however I didn't get a responce in that room
[23:59] <dancingdemon__> what is the best windows version to run on vmplayer on ubuntu16
[23:59] <YankDownUnder> GEEMac: Typo's are worth donuts and coffee.
[23:59] <GEEMac> YankDownUnder,  So wj