[01:04] <xrfang> how can I get the current disk write cache size? thanks
[05:31] <noahmg123_> imback
[05:41] <noahmg123_> leave
[08:46] <eXistenZe> hateball: thank you for the invite. So what bugs are we talking about?
[08:46] <hateball> eXistenZe: Just that Plasma is generally unstable in the default release
[08:46] <hateball> eXistenZe: It shouldnt lead to corruption however
[08:47] <hateball> eXistenZe: And like I said, pretty much everyone uses this PPA https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports
[08:47] <hateball> Solves most issues with dual/external monitors and such also
[08:47] <hateball> eXistenZe: Problem is that backporting newer plasma requires newer Qt, and that might break regular Ubuntu
[08:48] <hateball> I havent checked on 16.10 but I assume that will fix much headache
[08:49] <eXistenZe> mine logged into black screen every few days. And some files in plasma config got most lines erased. Restoring them solved the issue
[08:50] <eXistenZe> I like plasma aver unity or gnome, but this bug made me abandon kubuntu
[08:50] <hateball> Understandable, certainly if you did not try using the PPA
[08:50] <hateball> I dont really have any issues after that
[08:50] <eXistenZe> nope. Never heard of it.
[08:50] <hateball> anyhows, 16.10 is out in not-long, if I were adventerous and doing a fresh install I'd probably go for that myself
[08:51] <eXistenZe> So I install kubuntu, the the repo, and just update?
[08:51] <hateball> (altho that is bad advice since it is not yet supported)
[08:51] <hateball> eXistenZe: Yep
[08:52] <hateball> eXistenZe: And if you use an nVidia GPU, you probably want to use the nVidia PPA as well
[08:52] <eXistenZe> thanks
[08:52] <eXistenZe> gonna give it a try again this weekend
[08:54] <eXistenZe> It's a shame so few apps are developed for linux
[08:54] <eXistenZe> And office filetypes compatibility is also horrible
[08:55] <hateball> All depends what you need I suppose
[08:58] <eXistenZe> proper docx, xlsx, accdb and pptx suport would be awesome
[08:59] <hateball> Not really a Linux/Kubuntu problem however
[08:59] <eXistenZe> true
[09:01] <eXistenZe> Already asking on the proper #
[09:13] <eXistenZe> What do you call plasma in relation with KDE or unity with gnome?
[09:14] <eXistenZe> Are they all DEs?
[09:14] <hateball> KDE is a community
[09:14] <hateball> Plasma is the DE
[09:15] <hateball> and you have KDE Applications which is the rest of the bits, pretty much
[09:16] <hateball> well, they all depend on Frameworks
[09:16] <eXistenZe> What are KDE apps? Apps that change the DE itself?
[09:16] <hateball> eXistenZe: No, things like Kate and Okular and so on
[09:16] <hateball> without them you'd just have plasmashell and kwin
[09:31] <eXistenZe> but why are they kde apps? They don't work on other DEs? Or is it just because they were made by the team and are pre-installed?
[09:32] <jubo2> eXistenZe: I dunno. I hear Konversation could easily work in Gnome but I've preferred KDE since oogles ago
[09:33] <jubo2> Gnome .. just .. doesn't .. feel .. as .. good
[09:36] <jubo2> And I don't get no hatin' for likin' KDE
[09:43] <eXistenZe> Visually, plasma is awesome
[09:44] <gradon> KDE is amazing, I feel like it runs lighter than everything else.
[09:45] <hateball> eXistenZe: because they were made by the KDE community yes. of course they run anywhere if dependencies are met
[09:46] <eXistenZe> Any linux app runs in any distro, right?
[09:46] <eXistenZe> dependencies met
[09:46] <Smurphy> yes.,
[11:19] <moein> HI
[11:19] <hateball> hello
[11:19] <moein> No body?
[11:20] <moein> Can i install unity on kubuntu?
[11:20] <hateball> If you like, yes
[11:20] <moein> How?
[11:20] <hateball> moein: apt install unity
[11:20] <moein> Thanks
[11:21] <hateball> and then pick what DE you like when you login
[11:36] <noahmg123_> imback
[11:47] <konrados> Morning :)
[11:50] <konrados> I have a file which I can execute as normal user (konrad) and I can't as sudo, here are the permissions: -rwxrwxr-x  1 konrad konrad ... why is that?
[11:53] <hateball> konrados: pastebin your exact commands and results
[11:59] <konrados> hateball, - https://gist.github.com/konrados/a461e1e6850347461aa27a7a90f51714
[12:00] <hateball> sorry, no idea about npm
[12:02] <konrados> hateball - this is a node package manager which is a js file, which is then run by node.  But the error isn't related to npm its self, these are permission issues.
[12:02] <hateball> konrados: chances are you'll get more response in #ubuntu since it's not plasma related
[12:03] <konrados> ah no, sorry it says: sudo: npm: command not found but I think this are permissions, hateb
[12:03] <konrados> hateball, ^
[12:03] <hateball> konrados: well what does "which npm" say when you run it as your user?
[12:05] <konrados> fdddg
[12:05] <konrados>  /home/konrad/.nvm/versions/node/v6.4.0/lib/node_modules/npm/bin/npm-cli.js
[12:06] <hateball> that's not going to be in roots path, so
[12:06] <konrados> oh, I think I understand!
[12:07] <konrados> I have a different $PATH when doing as sudo, and doing sudo which npm gives me nothing...
[12:07] <hateball> yes
[12:07] <konrados> thank you hateball!
[12:07] <hateball> :)
[12:26] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:15] <onlineq> Hello, is there any wifi / wpa_supplicant  guru ?   I have a weird problem with my new notebook (Lenovo T560) in Xenial.
[13:16] <hateball> !anyone
[13:16] <hateball> come on now
[13:16] <hateball> !help | onlineq
[13:19] <onlineq> okay.. I am trying to connect the notebook with WIFI... with the open network it's perfectly okay. I am trying with our company wifi network , which is WPA-EAP... there's machine authentication against AD.    Problem is , that once I use the wpa_supplicant with the WIFI  (it's Intel Corp. Wireless 8260 (rev 3a),   8086:24f3) and turn on the debug l
[13:19] <onlineq> og, it is constantly saying that  "No suitable network found" even if the ESSID is correct. I am using the completely same setup on my old notebook and it works...
[13:19] <onlineq> surely it never connects with the new notebook.
[15:18] <kante_> test
[15:29] <threebar> hey everyone
[15:29] <threebar> i updated and installed latest bitcoin-qt but im still on 0.9.4 and i get a message that my version is old
[15:29] <threebar> is xenial not keeping up with the latest bitcoin-qt?
[15:30] <dax> !info bitcoin-qt
[15:30] <dax> didn't think so
[15:30] <dax> threebar: we don't package bitcoin-qt, you're probably using a PPA or something, talk to whoever you got the package from
[15:31] <threebar> how do i tell what PPA its coming from?
[15:31] <seam_install> hello
[15:32] <seam_install> in the mood to help anybody?
[15:33] <seam_install> Have an upgraded Kubunti 16.4.1 and want to install steam, but it tells me there are unsatified dependencies.
[15:34] <seam_install> aptitude suggeste to deinstall 600+ packages.
[15:34] <seam_install> can't beleve this.
[15:34] <seam_install> can anybody guide me to install steam client?
[15:36] <threebar> dax, i ran "apt-cache showpkg bitcoin-qt" and it shows me "0.9.4-trusty1 (/var/lib/dpkg/status)"
[15:37] <threebar> seam_install, that's probably unrelated. check above or below that message for the actual reason it won't install. read carefully
[15:38] <seam_install> there isn't much to missinterprete...
[15:38] <seam_install> steam:i386 : Hängt ab von: libgl1-mesa-glx:i386 soll aber nicht installiert werden
[15:39] <threebar> so you're missing your libgl1-mesa-glx:i386 package
[15:40] <threebar> o has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
[15:40] <threebar> errr
[15:40] <threebar> http://askubuntu.com/questions/588024/steam-install-error-on-14-04-ubuntu-64bit
[15:40] <threebar> try that
[15:40] <dax> threebar: I think that's from https://launchpad.net/~bitcoin/+archive/ubuntu/bitcoin
[15:40] <seam_install> sudo apt-get install steam libgl1-mesa-glx:i386
[15:40] <seam_install> sudo apt-get install steam libgl1-mesa-glx:i386
[15:41] <dax> threebar: (which is a PPA, so not officially supported, so use at your own risk basically)
[15:41] <seam_install> libgl1-mesa-glx:i386 : Hängt ab von: libxdamage1:i386 (>= 1:1.1) soll aber nicht installiert werden
[15:41] <seam_install> sudo apt-get install steam libgl1-mesa-glx:i386 libxdamage1:i386
[15:42] <seam_install> http://pastebin.com/9e4c7pHX
[15:43] <seam_install> according to this it should work out of the box:
[15:43] <seam_install> https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-install-steam-on-ubuntu-16-04-xenial-xerus
[15:47] <seam_install> when I have aptitude to resolve the conflicts it sugests either not to install steam or to remove 600+ packages
[15:47] <seam_install> neither one is what I want... :o(
[15:50] <threebar> dax, they list the PPA on their website
[15:50] <dax> i meant "officially" as in by us
[15:50] <threebar> https://bitcoin.org/en/download
[15:50] <dax> probably bitcoin supports it, yes
[15:51] <threebar> oh ok
[15:51] <threebar> whatever, i just downloaded their tgz
[15:51] <threebar> thanks
[15:51] <dax> that's what i do, personally :)
[16:32] <yocs0000> what is the best environment to develop in python under kubuntu?
[16:33] <Pici> 'environment'?
[17:06] <collins> hello
[17:07] <collins> hello
[17:08] <collins> I am need assistance in installing onedrive on my newly installed Kubuntu OS
[17:08] <collins> I have tried this http://xmodulo.com/sync-microsoft-onedrive-linux.html but I encountered an error along the line
[17:12] <collins> :~/onedrive-d$ ./inst install
[17:12] <collins> bash: ./inst: No such file or directory
[17:12] <collins> when I try the command "./inst install"
[17:17] <allesszz> hi guys. I have an issue with akonadi service
[17:18] <allesszz> I am on kubuntu 16.04
[17:18] <Dragonslicer> collins- It's hard for us to support software that isn't in the Ubuntu repository
[17:18] <Dragonslicer> My best guess, though, is to make sure that you're in the directory with the "inst" program and that it's marked as executable
[17:18] <allesszz> I have changed to auto-login and kontact stopped working
[17:19] <allesszz> after removing auto-login it sill wont start and kontact does not like that at all ;-(
[17:19] <allesszz> any ideas?
[17:20] <collins> @Dragnslicer Thanks for your response. please how do I know if I am in the directory that has the "inst"
[17:20] <Dragonslicer> collins- ls -al inst
[17:21] <Dragonslicer> If that gives something like "No such file", try just ls -al
[17:21] <collins> I am new to Linux and only followed the guidelines I found here http://xmodulo.com/sync-microsoft-onedrive-linux.html
[17:23] <Dragonslicer> collins- the instructions there are probably incorrect, then
[17:23] <collins> I would like to start afresh, please how do I uninstall this command "git clone https://github.com/xybu92/onedrive-d.git"
[17:24] <Dragonslicer> That page is dated 2014, so things may have changed in the software
[17:24] <collins> Okay
[17:24] <Dragonslicer> Looking at the github page, I don't see an "inst" program
[17:25] <collins> How do I undo everything I have done starting with "git clone https://github.com/xybu92/onedrive-d.git"
[17:25] <collins> So I can start afresh with correct guideline
[17:27] <Dragonslicer> It looks like the software page is at https://github.com/xybu/onedrive-d-old
[17:27] <Dragonslicer> You might find better instructions there
[17:29] <collins> okay. Thanks. please can you help me to remove what I have done so far? I don't know where and how to do that.
[17:30] <allesszz_> I think I know how akonadi got broken. I installed maria db and removed the existing mysql installation which akonadi uses
[17:30] <allesszz_> ahhhh!! ;-(
[17:32] <Dragonslicer> collins- if all you did was clone the git repository, you can just delete the directory that it created
[17:33] <collins> that's the onedrive-d directory?
[17:33] <collins> I am already in that directory "cd onedrive-d" please what command do I need to delete it?
[17:34] <Dragonslicer> cd ..
[17:35] <Dragonslicer> rm -rf onedrive-d
[17:35] <Dragonslicer> Or you can just use a GUI file manager, e.g. Dolphin
[17:37] <allesszz_> starting akonadi server reveals this error message: Fatal error: Please consult the Knowledge Base to find out how to run mysqld as root!
[17:38] <collins> thanks. deleted now. let me try the new instructions now
[17:39] <collins> please is there any material like ebook that can help me to master the use of Kubuntu fast
[17:43] <sadario> Hi. After an hour or so of googling, I still haven't found a solution for something that shouldn't be a problem at all. Ubuntu does it easily, but Kubuntu doesn't seem to have the option to
[17:43] <sadario> easily swap between two connected audio-devices (USB-headset and 5.1-speakers). Is there anyone who would be able to enlighten me on this?
[17:44] <BluesKaj> sadario, you should be able to so in pavucontrol
[17:45] <Dragonslicer> collins- http://docs.kubuntu.org/ is probably a good place to start
[17:45] <sadario> BluesKaj: Can't see the option to swap in PavuControl either
[17:46] <BluesKaj> or system settings>multimedia>hardware preferences
[17:46] <BluesKaj> sadario, audio outputs in pavucontrol ??
[17:47] <daum_> hi guys to upgrade from 14.04 to 16.01 it's just do-dist-upgrade right from the cli?
[17:47] <sadario> BluesKaj: Yeah. Don't see a button to swap to the correct output. I need a easy way to swap between speakers and headset
[17:48] <collins> okay
[17:48] <sadario> waaaait, nvm. Found it. Thanks a lot!
[17:50] <Dragonslicer> daum_- I think it's do-release-upgrade
[17:50] <Dragonslicer> You should also be able to do it from the update manager
[17:51] <daum_> Dragonslicer, er right - sorry ok good
[17:51] <daum_> it's downloading currently=p
[17:51] <BluesKaj> daum_,  sudo do-release-upgrade =, but make sure your update manager is set to LTS only and also update and upgrade your existing packages first
[17:52] <daum_> thanks!
[17:52] <BluesKaj> daum_, forget the =
[18:00] <Guest76875> test
[20:06] <daum_> hey guys - anyone else notice the fonts are really different after upgrading from 14.04 to 16.04/
 We moved from Oxygen or Ubuntu font to Noto Sans
[20:40] <allesszz> anyone willing to help me with a kontact issue?
[20:47] <clivejo> allesszz: most people run away screaming when you mention kontact
[20:47] <clivejo> but whats the issue?
[20:51] <daum_> IrcsomeBot, thanks - i think that was pointed at me that helped changing them back to oxygen for me
[21:59] <existenze> hey guys
[21:59] <existenze> what's the repo for plasma fixes?
[23:02] <mparillo> !backports