[01:04] <xrfang> how can I get the current disk write cache size? thanks
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[05:31] <noahmg123_> imback
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[08:46] <eXistenZe> hateball: thank you for the invite. So what bugs are we talking about?
[08:46] <hateball> eXistenZe: Just that Plasma is generally unstable in the default release
[08:46] <hateball> eXistenZe: It shouldnt lead to corruption however
[08:47] <hateball> eXistenZe: And like I said, pretty much everyone uses this PPA https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports
[08:47] <hateball> Solves most issues with dual/external monitors and such also
[08:47] <hateball> eXistenZe: Problem is that backporting newer plasma requires newer Qt, and that might break regular Ubuntu
[08:48] <hateball> I havent checked on 16.10 but I assume that will fix much headache
[08:49] <eXistenZe> mine logged into black screen every few days. And some files in plasma config got most lines erased. Restoring them solved the issue
[08:50] <eXistenZe> I like plasma aver unity or gnome, but this bug made me abandon kubuntu
[08:50] <hateball> Understandable, certainly if you did not try using the PPA
[08:50] <hateball> I dont really have any issues after that
[08:50] <eXistenZe> nope. Never heard of it.
[08:50] <hateball> anyhows, 16.10 is out in not-long, if I were adventerous and doing a fresh install I'd probably go for that myself
[08:51] <eXistenZe> So I install kubuntu, the the repo, and just update?
[08:51] <hateball> (altho that is bad advice since it is not yet supported)
[08:51] <hateball> eXistenZe: Yep
[08:52] <hateball> eXistenZe: And if you use an nVidia GPU, you probably want to use the nVidia PPA as well
[08:52] <eXistenZe> thanks
[08:52] <eXistenZe> gonna give it a try again this weekend
[08:54] <eXistenZe> It's a shame so few apps are developed for linux
[08:54] <eXistenZe> And office filetypes compatibility is also horrible
[08:55] <hateball> All depends what you need I suppose
[08:58] <eXistenZe> proper docx, xlsx, accdb and pptx suport would be awesome
[08:59] <hateball> Not really a Linux/Kubuntu problem however
[08:59] <eXistenZe> true
[09:01] <eXistenZe> Already asking on the proper #
[09:13] <eXistenZe> What do you call plasma in relation with KDE or unity with gnome?
[09:14] <eXistenZe> Are they all DEs?
[09:14] <hateball> KDE is a community
[09:14] <hateball> Plasma is the DE
[09:15] <hateball> and you have KDE Applications which is the rest of the bits, pretty much
[09:16] <hateball> well, they all depend on Frameworks
[09:16] <eXistenZe> What are KDE apps? Apps that change the DE itself?
[09:16] <hateball> eXistenZe: No, things like Kate and Okular and so on
[09:16] <hateball> without them you'd just have plasmashell and kwin
[09:31] <eXistenZe> but why are they kde apps? They don't work on other DEs? Or is it just because they were made by the team and are pre-installed?
[09:32] <jubo2> eXistenZe: I dunno. I hear Konversation could easily work in Gnome but I've preferred KDE since oogles ago
[09:33] <jubo2> Gnome .. just .. doesn't .. feel .. as .. good
[09:36] <jubo2> And I don't get no hatin' for likin' KDE
[09:43] <eXistenZe> Visually, plasma is awesome
[09:44] <gradon> KDE is amazing, I feel like it runs lighter than everything else.
[09:45] <hateball> eXistenZe: because they were made by the KDE community yes. of course they run anywhere if dependencies are met
[09:46] <eXistenZe> Any linux app runs in any distro, right?
[09:46] <eXistenZe> dependencies met
[09:46] <Smurphy> yes.,
[11:19] <moein> HI
[11:19] <hateball> hello
[11:19] <moein> No body?
[11:20] <moein> Can i install unity on kubuntu?
[11:20] <hateball> If you like, yes
[11:20] <moein> How?
[11:20] <hateball> moein: apt install unity
[11:20] <moein> Thanks
[11:21] <hateball> and then pick what DE you like when you login
[11:36] <noahmg123_> imback
[11:47] <konrados> Morning :)
[11:50] <konrados> I have a file which I can execute as normal user (konrad) and I can't as sudo, here are the permissions: -rwxrwxr-x  1 konrad konrad ... why is that?
[11:53] <hateball> konrados: pastebin your exact commands and results
[11:59] <konrados> hateball, - https://gist.github.com/konrados/a461e1e6850347461aa27a7a90f51714
[12:00] <hateball> sorry, no idea about npm
[12:02] <konrados> hateball - this is a node package manager which is a js file, which is then run by node.  But the error isn't related to npm its self, these are permission issues.
[12:02] <hateball> konrados: chances are you'll get more response in #ubuntu since it's not plasma related
[12:03] <konrados> ah no, sorry it says: sudo: npm: command not found but I think this are permissions, hateb
[12:03] <konrados> hateball, ^
[12:03] <hateball> konrados: well what does "which npm" say when you run it as your user?
[12:05] <konrados> fdddg
[12:05] <konrados>  /home/konrad/.nvm/versions/node/v6.4.0/lib/node_modules/npm/bin/npm-cli.js
[12:06] <hateball> that's not going to be in roots path, so
[12:06] <konrados> oh, I think I understand!
[12:07] <konrados> I have a different $PATH when doing as sudo, and doing sudo which npm gives me nothing...
[12:07] <hateball> yes
[12:07] <konrados> thank you hateball!
[12:07] <hateball> :)
[12:26] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
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[13:15] <onlineq> Hello, is there any wifi / wpa_supplicant  guru ?   I have a weird problem with my new notebook (Lenovo T560) in Xenial.
[13:16] <hateball> !anyone
[13:16] <hateball> come on now
[13:16] <hateball> !help | onlineq
[13:16] <ubottu> onlineq: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience
[13:19] <onlineq> okay.. I am trying to connect the notebook with WIFI... with the open network it's perfectly okay. I am trying with our company wifi network , which is WPA-EAP... there's machine authentication against AD.    Problem is , that once I use the wpa_supplicant with the WIFI  (it's Intel Corp. Wireless 8260 (rev 3a),   8086:24f3) and turn on the debug l
[13:19] <onlineq> og, it is constantly saying that  "No suitable network found" even if the ESSID is correct. I am using the completely same setup on my old notebook and it works...
[13:19] <onlineq> surely it never connects with the new notebook.
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[15:18] <kante_> test
[15:29] <threebar> hey everyone
[15:29] <threebar> i updated and installed latest bitcoin-qt but im still on 0.9.4 and i get a message that my version is old
[15:29] <threebar> is xenial not keeping up with the latest bitcoin-qt?
[15:30] <dax> !info bitcoin-qt
[15:30] <ubottu> Package bitcoin-qt does not exist in xenial
[15:30] <dax> didn't think so
[15:30] <dax> threebar: we don't package bitcoin-qt, you're probably using a PPA or something, talk to whoever you got the package from
[15:31] <threebar> how do i tell what PPA its coming from?
[15:31] <seam_install> hello
[15:32] <seam_install> in the mood to help anybody?
[15:33] <seam_install> Have an upgraded Kubunti 16.4.1 and want to install steam, but it tells me there are unsatified dependencies.
[15:34] <seam_install> aptitude suggeste to deinstall 600+ packages.
[15:34] <seam_install> can't beleve this.
[15:34] <seam_install> can anybody guide me to install steam client?
[15:36] <threebar> dax, i ran "apt-cache showpkg bitcoin-qt" and it shows me "0.9.4-trusty1 (/var/lib/dpkg/status)"
[15:37] <threebar> seam_install, that's probably unrelated. check above or below that message for the actual reason it won't install. read carefully
[15:38] <seam_install> there isn't much to missinterprete...
[15:38] <seam_install> steam:i386 : Hängt ab von: libgl1-mesa-glx:i386 soll aber nicht installiert werden
[15:39] <threebar> so you're missing your libgl1-mesa-glx:i386 package
[15:40] <threebar> o has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
[15:40] <threebar> errr
[15:40] <threebar> http://askubuntu.com/questions/588024/steam-install-error-on-14-04-ubuntu-64bit
[15:40] <threebar> try that
[15:40] <dax> threebar: I think that's from https://launchpad.net/~bitcoin/+archive/ubuntu/bitcoin
[15:40] <seam_install> sudo apt-get install steam libgl1-mesa-glx:i386
[15:40] <seam_install> sudo apt-get install steam libgl1-mesa-glx:i386
[15:41] <dax> threebar: (which is a PPA, so not officially supported, so use at your own risk basically)
[15:41] <seam_install> libgl1-mesa-glx:i386 : Hängt ab von: libxdamage1:i386 (>= 1:1.1) soll aber nicht installiert werden
[15:41] <seam_install> sudo apt-get install steam libgl1-mesa-glx:i386 libxdamage1:i386
[15:42] <seam_install> http://pastebin.com/9e4c7pHX
[15:43] <seam_install> according to this it should work out of the box:
[15:43] <seam_install> https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-install-steam-on-ubuntu-16-04-xenial-xerus
[15:47] <seam_install> when I have aptitude to resolve the conflicts it sugests either not to install steam or to remove 600+ packages
[15:47] <seam_install> neither one is what I want... :o(
[15:50] <threebar> dax, they list the PPA on their website
[15:50] <dax> i meant "officially" as in by us
[15:50] <threebar> https://bitcoin.org/en/download
[15:50] <dax> probably bitcoin supports it, yes
[15:51] <threebar> oh ok
[15:51] <threebar> whatever, i just downloaded their tgz
[15:51] <threebar> thanks
[15:51] <dax> that's what i do, personally :)
[16:32] <yocs0000> what is the best environment to develop in python under kubuntu?
[16:33] <Pici> 'environment'?
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[17:06] <collins> hello
[17:07] <collins> hello
[17:08] <collins> I am need assistance in installing onedrive on my newly installed Kubuntu OS
[17:08] <collins> I have tried this http://xmodulo.com/sync-microsoft-onedrive-linux.html but I encountered an error along the line
[17:12] <collins> :~/onedrive-d$ ./inst install
[17:12] <collins> bash: ./inst: No such file or directory
[17:12] <collins> when I try the command "./inst install"
[17:17] <allesszz> hi guys. I have an issue with akonadi service
[17:18] <allesszz> I am on kubuntu 16.04
[17:18] <Dragonslicer> collins- It's hard for us to support software that isn't in the Ubuntu repository
[17:18] <Dragonslicer> My best guess, though, is to make sure that you're in the directory with the "inst" program and that it's marked as executable
[17:18] <allesszz> I have changed to auto-login and kontact stopped working
[17:19] <allesszz> after removing auto-login it sill wont start and kontact does not like that at all ;-(
[17:19] <allesszz> any ideas?
[17:20] <collins> @Dragnslicer Thanks for your response. please how do I know if I am in the directory that has the "inst"
[17:20] <Dragonslicer> collins- ls -al inst
[17:21] <Dragonslicer> If that gives something like "No such file", try just ls -al
[17:21] <collins> I am new to Linux and only followed the guidelines I found here http://xmodulo.com/sync-microsoft-onedrive-linux.html
[17:23] <Dragonslicer> collins- the instructions there are probably incorrect, then
[17:23] <collins> I would like to start afresh, please how do I uninstall this command "git clone https://github.com/xybu92/onedrive-d.git"
[17:24] <Dragonslicer> That page is dated 2014, so things may have changed in the software
[17:24] <collins> Okay
[17:24] <Dragonslicer> Looking at the github page, I don't see an "inst" program
[17:25] <collins> How do I undo everything I have done starting with "git clone https://github.com/xybu92/onedrive-d.git"
[17:25] <collins> So I can start afresh with correct guideline
[17:27] <Dragonslicer> It looks like the software page is at https://github.com/xybu/onedrive-d-old
[17:27] <Dragonslicer> You might find better instructions there
[17:29] <collins> okay. Thanks. please can you help me to remove what I have done so far? I don't know where and how to do that.
[17:30] <allesszz_> I think I know how akonadi got broken. I installed maria db and removed the existing mysql installation which akonadi uses
[17:30] <allesszz_> ahhhh!! ;-(
[17:32] <Dragonslicer> collins- if all you did was clone the git repository, you can just delete the directory that it created
[17:33] <collins> that's the onedrive-d directory?
[17:33] <collins> I am already in that directory "cd onedrive-d" please what command do I need to delete it?
[17:34] <Dragonslicer> cd ..
[17:35] <Dragonslicer> rm -rf onedrive-d
[17:35] <Dragonslicer> Or you can just use a GUI file manager, e.g. Dolphin
[17:37] <allesszz_> starting akonadi server reveals this error message: Fatal error: Please consult the Knowledge Base to find out how to run mysqld as root!
[17:38] <collins> thanks. deleted now. let me try the new instructions now
[17:39] <collins> please is there any material like ebook that can help me to master the use of Kubuntu fast
[17:43] <sadario> Hi. After an hour or so of googling, I still haven't found a solution for something that shouldn't be a problem at all. Ubuntu does it easily, but Kubuntu doesn't seem to have the option to
[17:43] <sadario> easily swap between two connected audio-devices (USB-headset and 5.1-speakers). Is there anyone who would be able to enlighten me on this?
[17:44] <BluesKaj> sadario, you should be able to so in pavucontrol
[17:45] <Dragonslicer> collins- http://docs.kubuntu.org/ is probably a good place to start
[17:45] <sadario> BluesKaj: Can't see the option to swap in PavuControl either
[17:46] <BluesKaj> or system settings>multimedia>hardware preferences
[17:46] <BluesKaj> sadario, audio outputs in pavucontrol ??
[17:47] <daum_> hi guys to upgrade from 14.04 to 16.01 it's just do-dist-upgrade right from the cli?
[17:47] <sadario> BluesKaj: Yeah. Don't see a button to swap to the correct output. I need a easy way to swap between speakers and headset
[17:48] <collins> okay
[17:48] <sadario> waaaait, nvm. Found it. Thanks a lot!
[17:50] <Dragonslicer> daum_- I think it's do-release-upgrade
[17:50] <Dragonslicer> You should also be able to do it from the update manager
[17:51] <daum_> Dragonslicer, er right - sorry ok good
[17:51] <daum_> it's downloading currently=p
[17:51] <BluesKaj> daum_,  sudo do-release-upgrade =, but make sure your update manager is set to LTS only and also update and upgrade your existing packages first
[17:52] <daum_> thanks!
[17:52] <BluesKaj> daum_, forget the =
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[18:00] <Guest76875> test
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[20:06] <daum_> hey guys - anyone else notice the fonts are really different after upgrading from 14.04 to 16.04/
[20:28] <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> We moved from Oxygen or Ubuntu font to Noto Sans
[20:40] <allesszz> anyone willing to help me with a kontact issue?
[20:47] <clivejo> allesszz: most people run away screaming when you mention kontact
[20:47] <clivejo> but whats the issue?
[20:51] <daum_> IrcsomeBot, thanks - i think that was pointed at me that helped changing them back to oxygen for me
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[21:59] <existenze> hey guys
[21:59] <existenze> what's the repo for plasma fixes?
[23:02] <mparillo> !backports
[23:02] <ubottu> If new updated packages are built for an application, they may go into Kubuntu Backports, which is one of the official Kubuntu PPAs. See https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/PPAs for more information.
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