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pittiGood morning05:35
pitti@pilot in05:52
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sarnold"beta 1 freeze" still? I tohught the beta1 announcement was already sent?05:54
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pittisarnold: right, I guess it was just forgotten to be changed; done06:04
sarnoldthanks pitti :) guten morgen :)06:04
pittisarnold: good evening to you!06:04
sarnoldthank you :)06:04
LocutusOfBorgpitti, hi, please skip fpc/armhf testsuite and python-pysam where it failed? thanks06:40
LocutusOfBorgfpc-armhf can be ignored because it isn't a regression in the current fpc06:40
LocutusOfBorgand pysam... NBS06:40
LocutusOfBorgthanks06:42
tjaaltonsigh.. anyone managed to mount zfs filesystems with schroot/sbuild07:17
tjaalton?07:17
tjaaltonfor some reason it fails to bind-mount them07:17
tjaaltonnevermind, looks like it uses sbuild/fstab with schroot as well..07:32
pittiLocutusOfBorg: wb07:42
pittiLocutusOfBorg: fpc hint updated, pysam hint added, both landed now07:42
pittihttp://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#iva needs actual code changes (not build on the removed architectures)07:43
LocutusOfBorgthanks07:45
LocutusOfBorgpitti, isn't this just a removal on i386?07:46
LocutusOfBorgit will bd-uninstallable without code changes07:46
pittiah, does it b-dep on python3-pysam?07:47
pittiso it does07:47
pittiok07:47
pittidone07:48
LocutusOfBorgthanks, I was wondering about ENOCOFFEE from my side :)07:48
LocutusOfBorgUnit193, I don't think we have need to have an ext-pack vbox downloader08:18
LocutusOfBorgthe PUEL license is the same as guest-additions-iso, why should the package be different?08:18
LocutusOfBorgI prefer it in non-free with the actual stuff inside the deb, to avoid proxy issues and similar08:18
LocutusOfBorgpitti, autopkgtestsuite broken again? Error reading configuration: FAKEROOT binary 'fakeroot' does not exist or is not executable at /usr/share/perl5/Sbuild/Conf.pm line 75.09:19
LocutusOfBorg(sbuild testsuite fails)09:20
ogra_tseliot, do you have a hint for zyga for bug 1615248 ?09:41
ubottubug 1615248 in Snappy Launcher "ubuntu-core-launcher nvidia driver detection is bogus" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/161524809:41
ogra_(i guess there is a tool you can use to find the running driver)09:42
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pittiLocutusOfBorg: maybe, missing package dependency?10:10
LocutusOfBorgpitti, isn't fakeroot something installed by default?10:12
LocutusOfBorgat least it was until two days ago10:12
pittiLocutusOfBorg: certainly not, it's a developer package10:12
pittimaybe some dependency got dropped somewhere?10:12
LocutusOfBorgmmm ok, so lets add it10:12
LocutusOfBorgnot in sbuild package10:13
pittiLocutusOfBorg: sbuild recommends it, maybe the test should get Restrictions: needs-recommends?10:13
LocutusOfBorgbut why the previous version was working?10:14
LocutusOfBorgMerged Build-Depends: build-essential, fakeroot10:14
LocutusOfBorgFiltered Build-Depends: build-essential, fakeroot10:14
pittiLocutusOfBorg: the version in -proposed adds the check, maybe it just ignored its absence before?10:16
pittiLocutusOfBorg: previous versions installed fakeroot into the debootstrap, not into the "outer" test VM10:17
LocutusOfBorgoh indeed10:17
LocutusOfBorgso, how to add it?10:17
pittiso apparently that new test is not really necessary, as you can use sbuild/schroot without fakeroot10:17
pittior, if it was added for some reason, the Recommends: needs to be bumped to Depends:10:18
pittilooks to me like an actual packaging bug -- adding fakeroot to test dependencies would merely paper over it10:18
LocutusOfBorgmoved to -devel (debian)10:20
LocutusOfBorgthanks10:20
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LocutusOfBorgpatch ongoing, uploading shortly10:31
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LocutusOfBorgjbicha, syncpackage libraw -s costamagnagianfranco please?10:54
tseliotogra_, zyga: I'll have a look at it10:59
ogra_thanks ...10:59
ginggspitti: should i sync things like mutt and libraw during beta freeze, even thought they are seeded?11:06
pittiginggs: we aren't in beta freeze any more11:07
pittiginggs: also, even if we were, uploads/syncs are now always safe as we block promotion from -proposed in a freeze, not uploads11:07
ginggspitti: ok, thanks!11:07
LocutusOfBorgcan we maybe change the manpage? :)11:09
Unit193LocutusOfBorg: See ยง2 though.12:07
LocutusOfBorgUnit193, where?12:09
LocutusOfBorg2 has a part that is virtualbox-guest-additions only12:10
Unit193https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/VirtualBox_PUEL Exactly, the part where they allow you to distribute it.12:10
LocutusOfBorgyou right12:10
Unit193Otherwise, yeah non-free is so much better than a downloader (see adobe-flashplugin vs whatever the current downloader is.)12:12
LocutusOfBorgoh bad sbuild, you green now12:34
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tseliotogra_, zyga: I've just posted a solution in the bug report13:37
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powersjYakkety server ISO seems to have packages ending with "*.ude" in pool/main/l/linux15:54
powersjhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/23093622/15:55
naccpowersj: are they .udeb ?16:07
powersjnacc, suppose to be - package search downloads them as .udeb16:07
naccmaybe they are meant to be, rather16:07
naccpowersj: ack16:07
cjwatsonWe used to get that sometimes when we hit a length limit in one of the weird CDish filesystem formats.16:07
cjwatsonProbably triggered by the >2-digit ABI number here ...16:08
cjwatson(Though actually some of them need more characters than that)16:08
naccyeah, that seems likely in this case16:08
powersjso filing a bug against the source package (linux) doesn't seem like the right thing, does it?16:09
cjwatsonI'm not sure it can be fixed anywhere else in reality16:09
cjwatsonThough you could see if anyone more up-to-date on cdimage stuff can think of something16:10
cjwatsonIt'll be somewhere in the overlap of ubuntu-cdimage, the linux source package, and the debian-installer source package16:10
naccpowersj: in theory, that 9134 naming will go away sooner or later16:11
naccbut it should probably be fixed still (or maybe be a warning somehwere?)16:11
powersjsounds like a good test would be to verify # of files in pool == # *.deb + # *.udeb16:14
naccpowersj: seems like a reasonable sanity check16:16
infinityIf adding two characters to a filename is breaking CDs, we have a problem. :P16:26
infinityEspecially since we have flavours longer than '-generic'16:26
infinityAlso, that's even sketchier, given then file before the extension is also cut off.16:27
infinitypowersj: How did you mount that ISO?16:28
naccinfinity: good point16:28
powersj7z x -y yakkety-server-amd64 *.iso16:29
infinityNot sure I trust 7z to be reading the right filesystem.16:29
infinityTry "sudo mount -o loop foo.iso mountpoint/" and look inside?16:29
powersjsure16:29
infinityThere are several filesystems overlaid in ISOs, from vfatish to rockridge to... Misc.  I forget all the weird ways names get mangled.16:30
infinityThere might even be an 8.3 FAT hidden in there.16:30
infinityBut mounting it should give sane filenames.16:30
powersjthat seems to have fixed it16:30
infinitySo, call that a 7z bug, not an ISO bug. :)16:31
powersjyep! thx16:31
naccheh16:31
infinityiso9660 + extensions is really weird.16:32
cjwatsonRock Ridge + Joliet, I believe.16:32
infinityAnd by "really weird", I mean "a complete mess".16:32
infinitycjwatson: And Joliet is effectively a vfatish emulation, right?  Not actually case sensitive, n-char limit, etc.16:33
ogra_well, just another 10 years and CDs will have gonne the way of the floppy16:33
cjwatsoninfinity: Something like that, I think.16:33
infinitycjwatson: While rockridge is closer to POSIX.16:33
cjwatsonI didn't even know 7z did ISO9660 unpacking.16:33
cjwatsonYou can use bsdtar if you need a non-rootly unpacker.16:33
cjwatsonI think it actually gets it mostly right.16:33
powersjok - and yes I was looking for a non-root way of doing it so I could script it16:33
infinityogra_: Except that people keep insisting on writing iso9660 filesystems to larger and larger optical media.16:34
infinity(Which is derpy, we should switch to something less broken)16:34
cjwatson(It might have a slight problem with symlinks, I don't quite remember.)16:34
ogra_yeah ... people are crazy16:34
infinityWhat was the DVD filesystem that never really caught on?  UDF?16:34
infinitySomething like that.16:34
ogra_yeah16:34
infinityI'd love to see iso9660 die in a fire.16:35
ogra_+116:35
infinityI'd also love to get rid of that file extension...16:39
infinityI can only imagine a true greybeard, the first time he saw a .iso, going "huh, I wonder if this has something to do with date formats or country codes, or perhaps metric measurements... let's read it in vi".16:40
ogra_well, vi would open it ...16:40
ogra_might take a while though16:40
infinitySure would.16:40
infinityWould also scribble all over your poor VT120.16:41
infinityAnd possibly make it beep a lot.16:41
infinityAnd by "beep", I mean that distinctly DEC "dwoop" noise.16:42
infinityMan, I miss Digital.16:42
ogra_:)16:43
infinityHrm.  It's been 18 years.  People have reached the age of majority since the Compaq/Digital acquisition.16:44
infinityMaybe it's time for me to move on.16:44
infinityMaybe.16:44
ogra_or just to grow a very long beard16:45
ogra_anmd watch it turn grey16:45
infinityYou could be on to something.16:45
* hallyn misses his vt10118:53
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