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pitti | Good morning | 05:35 |
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pitti | @pilot in | 05:52 |
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sarnold | "beta 1 freeze" still? I tohught the beta1 announcement was already sent? | 05:54 |
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pitti | sarnold: right, I guess it was just forgotten to be changed; done | 06:04 |
sarnold | thanks pitti :) guten morgen :) | 06:04 |
pitti | sarnold: good evening to you! | 06:04 |
sarnold | thank you :) | 06:04 |
LocutusOfBorg | pitti, hi, please skip fpc/armhf testsuite and python-pysam where it failed? thanks | 06:40 |
LocutusOfBorg | fpc-armhf can be ignored because it isn't a regression in the current fpc | 06:40 |
LocutusOfBorg | and pysam... NBS | 06:40 |
LocutusOfBorg | thanks | 06:42 |
tjaalton | sigh.. anyone managed to mount zfs filesystems with schroot/sbuild | 07:17 |
tjaalton | ? | 07:17 |
tjaalton | for some reason it fails to bind-mount them | 07:17 |
tjaalton | nevermind, looks like it uses sbuild/fstab with schroot as well.. | 07:32 |
pitti | LocutusOfBorg: wb | 07:42 |
pitti | LocutusOfBorg: fpc hint updated, pysam hint added, both landed now | 07:42 |
pitti | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#iva needs actual code changes (not build on the removed architectures) | 07:43 |
LocutusOfBorg | thanks | 07:45 |
LocutusOfBorg | pitti, isn't this just a removal on i386? | 07:46 |
LocutusOfBorg | it will bd-uninstallable without code changes | 07:46 |
pitti | ah, does it b-dep on python3-pysam? | 07:47 |
pitti | so it does | 07:47 |
pitti | ok | 07:47 |
pitti | done | 07:48 |
LocutusOfBorg | thanks, I was wondering about ENOCOFFEE from my side :) | 07:48 |
LocutusOfBorg | Unit193, I don't think we have need to have an ext-pack vbox downloader | 08:18 |
LocutusOfBorg | the PUEL license is the same as guest-additions-iso, why should the package be different? | 08:18 |
LocutusOfBorg | I prefer it in non-free with the actual stuff inside the deb, to avoid proxy issues and similar | 08:18 |
LocutusOfBorg | pitti, autopkgtestsuite broken again? Error reading configuration: FAKEROOT binary 'fakeroot' does not exist or is not executable at /usr/share/perl5/Sbuild/Conf.pm line 75. | 09:19 |
LocutusOfBorg | (sbuild testsuite fails) | 09:20 |
ogra_ | tseliot, do you have a hint for zyga for bug 1615248 ? | 09:41 |
ubottu | bug 1615248 in Snappy Launcher "ubuntu-core-launcher nvidia driver detection is bogus" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1615248 | 09:41 |
ogra_ | (i guess there is a tool you can use to find the running driver) | 09:42 |
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pitti | LocutusOfBorg: maybe, missing package dependency? | 10:10 |
LocutusOfBorg | pitti, isn't fakeroot something installed by default? | 10:12 |
LocutusOfBorg | at least it was until two days ago | 10:12 |
pitti | LocutusOfBorg: certainly not, it's a developer package | 10:12 |
pitti | maybe some dependency got dropped somewhere? | 10:12 |
LocutusOfBorg | mmm ok, so lets add it | 10:12 |
LocutusOfBorg | not in sbuild package | 10:13 |
pitti | LocutusOfBorg: sbuild recommends it, maybe the test should get Restrictions: needs-recommends? | 10:13 |
LocutusOfBorg | but why the previous version was working? | 10:14 |
LocutusOfBorg | Merged Build-Depends: build-essential, fakeroot | 10:14 |
LocutusOfBorg | Filtered Build-Depends: build-essential, fakeroot | 10:14 |
pitti | LocutusOfBorg: the version in -proposed adds the check, maybe it just ignored its absence before? | 10:16 |
pitti | LocutusOfBorg: previous versions installed fakeroot into the debootstrap, not into the "outer" test VM | 10:17 |
LocutusOfBorg | oh indeed | 10:17 |
LocutusOfBorg | so, how to add it? | 10:17 |
pitti | so apparently that new test is not really necessary, as you can use sbuild/schroot without fakeroot | 10:17 |
pitti | or, if it was added for some reason, the Recommends: needs to be bumped to Depends: | 10:18 |
pitti | looks to me like an actual packaging bug -- adding fakeroot to test dependencies would merely paper over it | 10:18 |
LocutusOfBorg | moved to -devel (debian) | 10:20 |
LocutusOfBorg | thanks | 10:20 |
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LocutusOfBorg | patch ongoing, uploading shortly | 10:31 |
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LocutusOfBorg | jbicha, syncpackage libraw -s costamagnagianfranco please? | 10:54 |
tseliot | ogra_, zyga: I'll have a look at it | 10:59 |
ogra_ | thanks ... | 10:59 |
ginggs | pitti: should i sync things like mutt and libraw during beta freeze, even thought they are seeded? | 11:06 |
pitti | ginggs: we aren't in beta freeze any more | 11:07 |
pitti | ginggs: also, even if we were, uploads/syncs are now always safe as we block promotion from -proposed in a freeze, not uploads | 11:07 |
ginggs | pitti: ok, thanks! | 11:07 |
LocutusOfBorg | can we maybe change the manpage? :) | 11:09 |
Unit193 | LocutusOfBorg: See ยง2 though. | 12:07 |
LocutusOfBorg | Unit193, where? | 12:09 |
LocutusOfBorg | 2 has a part that is virtualbox-guest-additions only | 12:10 |
Unit193 | https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/VirtualBox_PUEL Exactly, the part where they allow you to distribute it. | 12:10 |
LocutusOfBorg | you right | 12:10 |
Unit193 | Otherwise, yeah non-free is so much better than a downloader (see adobe-flashplugin vs whatever the current downloader is.) | 12:12 |
LocutusOfBorg | oh bad sbuild, you green now | 12:34 |
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tseliot | ogra_, zyga: I've just posted a solution in the bug report | 13:37 |
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powersj | Yakkety server ISO seems to have packages ending with "*.ude" in pool/main/l/linux | 15:54 |
powersj | http://paste.ubuntu.com/23093622/ | 15:55 |
nacc | powersj: are they .udeb ? | 16:07 |
powersj | nacc, suppose to be - package search downloads them as .udeb | 16:07 |
nacc | maybe they are meant to be, rather | 16:07 |
nacc | powersj: ack | 16:07 |
cjwatson | We used to get that sometimes when we hit a length limit in one of the weird CDish filesystem formats. | 16:07 |
cjwatson | Probably triggered by the >2-digit ABI number here ... | 16:08 |
cjwatson | (Though actually some of them need more characters than that) | 16:08 |
nacc | yeah, that seems likely in this case | 16:08 |
powersj | so filing a bug against the source package (linux) doesn't seem like the right thing, does it? | 16:09 |
cjwatson | I'm not sure it can be fixed anywhere else in reality | 16:09 |
cjwatson | Though you could see if anyone more up-to-date on cdimage stuff can think of something | 16:10 |
cjwatson | It'll be somewhere in the overlap of ubuntu-cdimage, the linux source package, and the debian-installer source package | 16:10 |
nacc | powersj: in theory, that 9134 naming will go away sooner or later | 16:11 |
nacc | but it should probably be fixed still (or maybe be a warning somehwere?) | 16:11 |
powersj | sounds like a good test would be to verify # of files in pool == # *.deb + # *.udeb | 16:14 |
nacc | powersj: seems like a reasonable sanity check | 16:16 |
infinity | If adding two characters to a filename is breaking CDs, we have a problem. :P | 16:26 |
infinity | Especially since we have flavours longer than '-generic' | 16:26 |
infinity | Also, that's even sketchier, given then file before the extension is also cut off. | 16:27 |
infinity | powersj: How did you mount that ISO? | 16:28 |
nacc | infinity: good point | 16:28 |
powersj | 7z x -y yakkety-server-amd64 *.iso | 16:29 |
infinity | Not sure I trust 7z to be reading the right filesystem. | 16:29 |
infinity | Try "sudo mount -o loop foo.iso mountpoint/" and look inside? | 16:29 |
powersj | sure | 16:29 |
infinity | There are several filesystems overlaid in ISOs, from vfatish to rockridge to... Misc. I forget all the weird ways names get mangled. | 16:30 |
infinity | There might even be an 8.3 FAT hidden in there. | 16:30 |
infinity | But mounting it should give sane filenames. | 16:30 |
powersj | that seems to have fixed it | 16:30 |
infinity | So, call that a 7z bug, not an ISO bug. :) | 16:31 |
powersj | yep! thx | 16:31 |
nacc | heh | 16:31 |
infinity | iso9660 + extensions is really weird. | 16:32 |
cjwatson | Rock Ridge + Joliet, I believe. | 16:32 |
infinity | And by "really weird", I mean "a complete mess". | 16:32 |
infinity | cjwatson: And Joliet is effectively a vfatish emulation, right? Not actually case sensitive, n-char limit, etc. | 16:33 |
ogra_ | well, just another 10 years and CDs will have gonne the way of the floppy | 16:33 |
cjwatson | infinity: Something like that, I think. | 16:33 |
infinity | cjwatson: While rockridge is closer to POSIX. | 16:33 |
cjwatson | I didn't even know 7z did ISO9660 unpacking. | 16:33 |
cjwatson | You can use bsdtar if you need a non-rootly unpacker. | 16:33 |
cjwatson | I think it actually gets it mostly right. | 16:33 |
powersj | ok - and yes I was looking for a non-root way of doing it so I could script it | 16:33 |
infinity | ogra_: Except that people keep insisting on writing iso9660 filesystems to larger and larger optical media. | 16:34 |
infinity | (Which is derpy, we should switch to something less broken) | 16:34 |
cjwatson | (It might have a slight problem with symlinks, I don't quite remember.) | 16:34 |
ogra_ | yeah ... people are crazy | 16:34 |
infinity | What was the DVD filesystem that never really caught on? UDF? | 16:34 |
infinity | Something like that. | 16:34 |
ogra_ | yeah | 16:34 |
infinity | I'd love to see iso9660 die in a fire. | 16:35 |
ogra_ | +1 | 16:35 |
infinity | I'd also love to get rid of that file extension... | 16:39 |
infinity | I can only imagine a true greybeard, the first time he saw a .iso, going "huh, I wonder if this has something to do with date formats or country codes, or perhaps metric measurements... let's read it in vi". | 16:40 |
ogra_ | well, vi would open it ... | 16:40 |
ogra_ | might take a while though | 16:40 |
infinity | Sure would. | 16:40 |
infinity | Would also scribble all over your poor VT120. | 16:41 |
infinity | And possibly make it beep a lot. | 16:41 |
infinity | And by "beep", I mean that distinctly DEC "dwoop" noise. | 16:42 |
infinity | Man, I miss Digital. | 16:42 |
ogra_ | :) | 16:43 |
infinity | Hrm. It's been 18 years. People have reached the age of majority since the Compaq/Digital acquisition. | 16:44 |
infinity | Maybe it's time for me to move on. | 16:44 |
infinity | Maybe. | 16:44 |
ogra_ | or just to grow a very long beard | 16:45 |
ogra_ | anmd watch it turn grey | 16:45 |
infinity | You could be on to something. | 16:45 |
* hallyn misses his vt101 | 18:53 | |
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