[05:35] <pitti> Good morning
[05:52] <pitti> @pilot in
[05:54] <sarnold> "beta 1 freeze" still? I tohught the beta1 announcement was already sent?
[06:04] <pitti> sarnold: right, I guess it was just forgotten to be changed; done
[06:04] <sarnold> thanks pitti :) guten morgen :)
[06:04] <pitti> sarnold: good evening to you!
[06:04] <sarnold> thank you :)
[06:40] <LocutusOfBorg> pitti, hi, please skip fpc/armhf testsuite and python-pysam where it failed? thanks
[06:40] <LocutusOfBorg> fpc-armhf can be ignored because it isn't a regression in the current fpc
[06:40] <LocutusOfBorg> and pysam... NBS
[06:42] <LocutusOfBorg> thanks
[07:17] <tjaalton> sigh.. anyone managed to mount zfs filesystems with schroot/sbuild
[07:17] <tjaalton> ?
[07:17] <tjaalton> for some reason it fails to bind-mount them
[07:32] <tjaalton> nevermind, looks like it uses sbuild/fstab with schroot as well..
[07:42] <pitti> LocutusOfBorg: wb
[07:42] <pitti> LocutusOfBorg: fpc hint updated, pysam hint added, both landed now
[07:43] <pitti> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#iva needs actual code changes (not build on the removed architectures)
[07:45] <LocutusOfBorg> thanks
[07:46] <LocutusOfBorg> pitti, isn't this just a removal on i386?
[07:46] <LocutusOfBorg> it will bd-uninstallable without code changes
[07:47] <pitti> ah, does it b-dep on python3-pysam?
[07:47] <pitti> so it does
[07:47] <pitti> ok
[07:48] <pitti> done
[07:48] <LocutusOfBorg> thanks, I was wondering about ENOCOFFEE from my side :)
[08:18] <LocutusOfBorg> Unit193, I don't think we have need to have an ext-pack vbox downloader
[08:18] <LocutusOfBorg> the PUEL license is the same as guest-additions-iso, why should the package be different?
[08:18] <LocutusOfBorg> I prefer it in non-free with the actual stuff inside the deb, to avoid proxy issues and similar
[09:19] <LocutusOfBorg> pitti, autopkgtestsuite broken again? Error reading configuration: FAKEROOT binary 'fakeroot' does not exist or is not executable at /usr/share/perl5/Sbuild/Conf.pm line 75.
[09:20] <LocutusOfBorg> (sbuild testsuite fails)
[09:41] <ogra_> tseliot, do you have a hint for zyga for bug 1615248 ?
[09:42] <ogra_> (i guess there is a tool you can use to find the running driver)
[10:10] <pitti> LocutusOfBorg: maybe, missing package dependency?
[10:12] <LocutusOfBorg> pitti, isn't fakeroot something installed by default?
[10:12] <LocutusOfBorg> at least it was until two days ago
[10:12] <pitti> LocutusOfBorg: certainly not, it's a developer package
[10:12] <pitti> maybe some dependency got dropped somewhere?
[10:12] <LocutusOfBorg> mmm ok, so lets add it
[10:13] <LocutusOfBorg> not in sbuild package
[10:13] <pitti> LocutusOfBorg: sbuild recommends it, maybe the test should get Restrictions: needs-recommends?
[10:14] <LocutusOfBorg> but why the previous version was working?
[10:14] <LocutusOfBorg> Merged Build-Depends: build-essential, fakeroot
[10:14] <LocutusOfBorg> Filtered Build-Depends: build-essential, fakeroot
[10:16] <pitti> LocutusOfBorg: the version in -proposed adds the check, maybe it just ignored its absence before?
[10:17] <pitti> LocutusOfBorg: previous versions installed fakeroot into the debootstrap, not into the "outer" test VM
[10:17] <LocutusOfBorg> oh indeed
[10:17] <LocutusOfBorg> so, how to add it?
[10:17] <pitti> so apparently that new test is not really necessary, as you can use sbuild/schroot without fakeroot
[10:18] <pitti> or, if it was added for some reason, the Recommends: needs to be bumped to Depends:
[10:18] <pitti> looks to me like an actual packaging bug -- adding fakeroot to test dependencies would merely paper over it
[10:20] <LocutusOfBorg> moved to -devel (debian)
[10:20] <LocutusOfBorg> thanks
[10:31] <LocutusOfBorg> patch ongoing, uploading shortly
[10:54] <LocutusOfBorg> jbicha, syncpackage libraw -s costamagnagianfranco please?
[10:59] <tseliot> ogra_, zyga: I'll have a look at it
[10:59] <ogra_> thanks ...
[11:06] <ginggs> pitti: should i sync things like mutt and libraw during beta freeze, even thought they are seeded?
[11:07] <pitti> ginggs: we aren't in beta freeze any more
[11:07] <pitti> ginggs: also, even if we were, uploads/syncs are now always safe as we block promotion from -proposed in a freeze, not uploads
[11:07] <ginggs> pitti: ok, thanks!
[11:09] <LocutusOfBorg> can we maybe change the manpage? :)
[12:07] <Unit193> LocutusOfBorg: See §2 though.
[12:09] <LocutusOfBorg> Unit193, where?
[12:10] <LocutusOfBorg> 2 has a part that is virtualbox-guest-additions only
[12:10] <Unit193> https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/VirtualBox_PUEL Exactly, the part where they allow you to distribute it.
[12:10] <LocutusOfBorg> you right
[12:12] <Unit193> Otherwise, yeah non-free is so much better than a downloader (see adobe-flashplugin vs whatever the current downloader is.)
[12:34] <LocutusOfBorg> oh bad sbuild, you green now
[13:37] <tseliot> ogra_, zyga: I've just posted a solution in the bug report
[15:54] <powersj> Yakkety server ISO seems to have packages ending with "*.ude" in pool/main/l/linux
[15:55] <powersj> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23093622/
[16:07] <nacc> powersj: are they .udeb ?
[16:07] <powersj> nacc, suppose to be - package search downloads them as .udeb
[16:07] <nacc> maybe they are meant to be, rather
[16:07] <nacc> powersj: ack
[16:07] <cjwatson> We used to get that sometimes when we hit a length limit in one of the weird CDish filesystem formats.
[16:08] <cjwatson> Probably triggered by the >2-digit ABI number here ...
[16:08] <cjwatson> (Though actually some of them need more characters than that)
[16:08] <nacc> yeah, that seems likely in this case
[16:09] <powersj> so filing a bug against the source package (linux) doesn't seem like the right thing, does it?
[16:09] <cjwatson> I'm not sure it can be fixed anywhere else in reality
[16:10] <cjwatson> Though you could see if anyone more up-to-date on cdimage stuff can think of something
[16:10] <cjwatson> It'll be somewhere in the overlap of ubuntu-cdimage, the linux source package, and the debian-installer source package
[16:11] <nacc> powersj: in theory, that 9134 naming will go away sooner or later
[16:11] <nacc> but it should probably be fixed still (or maybe be a warning somehwere?)
[16:14] <powersj> sounds like a good test would be to verify # of files in pool == # *.deb + # *.udeb
[16:16] <nacc> powersj: seems like a reasonable sanity check
[16:26] <infinity> If adding two characters to a filename is breaking CDs, we have a problem. :P
[16:26] <infinity> Especially since we have flavours longer than '-generic'
[16:27] <infinity> Also, that's even sketchier, given then file before the extension is also cut off.
[16:28] <infinity> powersj: How did you mount that ISO?
[16:28] <nacc> infinity: good point
[16:29] <powersj> 7z x -y yakkety-server-amd64 *.iso
[16:29] <infinity> Not sure I trust 7z to be reading the right filesystem.
[16:29] <infinity> Try "sudo mount -o loop foo.iso mountpoint/" and look inside?
[16:29] <powersj> sure
[16:30] <infinity> There are several filesystems overlaid in ISOs, from vfatish to rockridge to... Misc.  I forget all the weird ways names get mangled.
[16:30] <infinity> There might even be an 8.3 FAT hidden in there.
[16:30] <infinity> But mounting it should give sane filenames.
[16:30] <powersj> that seems to have fixed it
[16:31] <infinity> So, call that a 7z bug, not an ISO bug. :)
[16:31] <powersj> yep! thx
[16:31] <nacc> heh
[16:32] <infinity> iso9660 + extensions is really weird.
[16:32] <cjwatson> Rock Ridge + Joliet, I believe.
[16:32] <infinity> And by "really weird", I mean "a complete mess".
[16:33] <infinity> cjwatson: And Joliet is effectively a vfatish emulation, right?  Not actually case sensitive, n-char limit, etc.
[16:33] <ogra_> well, just another 10 years and CDs will have gonne the way of the floppy
[16:33] <cjwatson> infinity: Something like that, I think.
[16:33] <infinity> cjwatson: While rockridge is closer to POSIX.
[16:33] <cjwatson> I didn't even know 7z did ISO9660 unpacking.
[16:33] <cjwatson> You can use bsdtar if you need a non-rootly unpacker.
[16:33] <cjwatson> I think it actually gets it mostly right.
[16:33] <powersj> ok - and yes I was looking for a non-root way of doing it so I could script it
[16:34] <infinity> ogra_: Except that people keep insisting on writing iso9660 filesystems to larger and larger optical media.
[16:34] <infinity> (Which is derpy, we should switch to something less broken)
[16:34] <cjwatson> (It might have a slight problem with symlinks, I don't quite remember.)
[16:34] <ogra_> yeah ... people are crazy
[16:34] <infinity> What was the DVD filesystem that never really caught on?  UDF?
[16:34] <infinity> Something like that.
[16:34] <ogra_> yeah
[16:35] <infinity> I'd love to see iso9660 die in a fire.
[16:35] <ogra_> +1
[16:39] <infinity> I'd also love to get rid of that file extension...
[16:40] <infinity> I can only imagine a true greybeard, the first time he saw a .iso, going "huh, I wonder if this has something to do with date formats or country codes, or perhaps metric measurements... let's read it in vi".
[16:40] <ogra_> well, vi would open it ...
[16:40] <ogra_> might take a while though
[16:40] <infinity> Sure would.
[16:41] <infinity> Would also scribble all over your poor VT120.
[16:41] <infinity> And possibly make it beep a lot.
[16:42] <infinity> And by "beep", I mean that distinctly DEC "dwoop" noise.
[16:42] <infinity> Man, I miss Digital.
[16:43] <ogra_> :)
[16:44] <infinity> Hrm.  It's been 18 years.  People have reached the age of majority since the Compaq/Digital acquisition.
[16:44] <infinity> Maybe it's time for me to move on.
[16:44] <infinity> Maybe.
[16:45] <ogra_> or just to grow a very long beard
[16:45] <ogra_> anmd watch it turn grey
[16:45] <infinity> You could be on to something.
[18:53]  * hallyn misses his vt101