| Kilos | hmm... | 08:33 |
|---|---|---|
| Kilos | hi paddatrapper inetpro ambo aquarat drussell ludo pavlushka SilverCode and other lurkers | 08:35 |
| * pavlushka digging deeper | 08:35 | |
| paddatrapper | Hey Kilos | 08:37 |
| * pavlushka (and burying himself) | 08:37 | |
| Kilos | why | 08:37 |
| paddatrapper | pavlushka: I'll check about sort and let you know. Need to remember how it works | 08:38 |
| * pavlushka (Because Kilos sensed me here) :p | 08:38 | |
| pavlushka | paddatrapper: sure :) | 08:38 |
| pavlushka | Kilos: ahoy :) | 08:40 |
| Kilos | hahaha | 08:42 |
| pavlushka | paddatrapper: I am getting close, I am following a suggestion inetpro gave me when the Tigers used to smoke cigars :p | 09:09 |
| pavlushka | paddatrapper: I'll tell you if I achieve 100 success :) | 09:09 |
| paddatrapper | pavlushka: ok cool :) | 09:22 |
| Kilos | where are all the clever peeps | 10:54 |
| Kilos | paddatrapper you here? | 11:13 |
| Kilos | theblazehen you? | 11:13 |
| Kilos | where of where is my fly | 12:21 |
| jerit | ello squirrels | 13:02 |
| Kilos | hi jerit | 13:08 |
| jerit | you well Kilos? | 13:09 |
| Kilos | just tired hopefully ty jerit and you | 13:10 |
| jerit | just tired, hopefully? | 13:19 |
| Kilos | yip , jerit is it isnt tired then im sick again | 13:42 |
| Kilos | spend whole day in jozi yesterday and that air aint good | 13:43 |
| theblazehen | Kilos I'm here | 13:51 |
| Kilos | sec i cp/paste | 13:52 |
| Kilos | ive been given a blackberry for my trip to aus | 13:52 |
| Kilos | [15:51] <Kilos> if i tether it to lappy as a modem will i then be able to use the bb data | 13:52 |
| Kilos | because i think they give uncapped for R59 | 13:53 |
| theblazehen | Kilos No :( | 13:53 |
| Kilos | oh my | 13:53 |
| Kilos | what data will it use then | 13:53 |
| theblazehen | It's seperate BIS data, only used by their browser and BBM | 13:53 |
| theblazehen | so their browser and bbm is free, rest is your normal data plan | 13:54 |
| theblazehen | or it was like that a few years back | 13:54 |
| Kilos | all i got it for is for whatsapp to family here | 13:54 |
| theblazehen | I looked into if there was ways to get it to work with websocket magic, but back then you couldn't as the browser didn't support websockets | 13:54 |
| Kilos | horrible fone though i have to use 2 pairs of glasses to see the keyboard | 13:56 |
| Kilos | oh theblazehen | 13:56 |
| Kilos | one more thing | 13:56 |
| Kilos | what if i tether it and its on wifi | 13:56 |
| theblazehen | If it's on wifi then it should be fine | 13:57 |
| Kilos | aha | 13:57 |
| Kilos | something to think about then | 13:57 |
| Kilos | need to find out if they still want the R59 if you use wifi | 13:58 |
| Kilos | wbb | 13:58 |
| theblazehen | ok | 14:00 |
| bushtech | afternoon all | 15:28 |
| Kilos | hi bushtech long time no here | 15:29 |
| Kilos | where you been | 15:29 |
| bushtech | G'day Kilos | 15:29 |
| Kilos | you ok? | 15:29 |
| bushtech | you in Oz? | 15:29 |
| Kilos | leaving tuesday early am | 15:29 |
| Kilos | actually flying at 9.45 | 15:30 |
| bushtech | i'm good, up to my neck teaching myself electronics | 15:30 |
| Kilos | lol | 15:30 |
| Kilos | i was lucky the gpo paid for my electronics learning | 15:30 |
| bushtech | thinking of going to 1604. Good idea? | 15:30 |
| Kilos | but then electronics was very much more basic | 15:30 |
| Kilos | still buggy but if you dont need fancy things the basics is stable | 15:31 |
| Kilos | and 16.04.1 is out so many of the patches already in | 15:31 |
| bushtech | yeah when it gets to the maths involved my eyes glaze over | 15:31 |
| Kilos | lol | 15:32 |
| Kilos | but they are still working on many bugs | 15:32 |
| bushtech | ah ok got some extra data think I'll roll it | 15:32 |
| Kilos | also superfly and inetpro and a few others are already using 16.04 | 15:33 |
| bushtech | as long as they haven't stuffed up something like network connections | 15:33 |
| Kilos | ill upgrade next month in aus | 15:33 |
| Kilos | try checking outstanding bugs before you actually upgrade | 15:34 |
| Kilos | but you can download it so long | 15:34 |
| Kilos | wbb pumping water | 15:34 |
| bushtech | hmm yeah. Unfortunately I don't know if the stuff I get up to rates as fancy | 15:35 |
| Kilos | haha | 15:36 |
| Kilos | you use kde? | 15:36 |
| Kilos | bushtech ^^ | 15:38 |
| bushtech | I use whatever it comes with | 15:39 |
| Kilos | if you do then there are guys here running it so they would know fixes | 15:39 |
| Kilos | kubuntu that is | 15:39 |
| bushtech | spose i'm on gnome | 15:40 |
| Kilos | havent you got a spare drive to test it on | 15:41 |
| Kilos | then you would know if any apps you use are buggy before dropping your stable system | 15:41 |
| Kilos | i am going to upgrade the lappy standard drive first, but keep the ssd on stable till im happy with 16.04 | 15:42 |
| bushtech | hmm just replaced my media drive with a WD Red | 15:42 |
| Kilos | they come in colours now | 15:42 |
| Kilos | used to be sizes | 15:43 |
| Kilos | ? | 15:43 |
| bushtech | yep | 15:43 |
| Kilos | so how big is red? | 15:43 |
| Kilos | hehe | 15:43 |
| bushtech | now you need to pick size and colour | 15:43 |
| Kilos | ai! | 15:43 |
| bushtech | red comes in all sizes | 15:43 |
| Kilos | what is the red for them | 15:44 |
| Kilos | then | 15:44 |
| bushtech | but recommended for 24/7 NAS | 15:44 |
| Kilos | i cant google, data min | 15:44 |
| Kilos | aha | 15:44 |
| bushtech | and 3 year guarantee | 15:45 |
| Kilos | thats nice | 15:45 |
| bushtech | for what its worth | 15:45 |
| Kilos | cost? | 15:45 |
| Kilos | my drives are all older than that | 15:45 |
| bushtech | bushtech scratches head | 15:45 |
| Kilos | haha | 15:45 |
| bushtech | 2tb was about R1900 | 15:49 |
| Kilos | eeek | 15:49 |
| Kilos | thats 20% of the airfare to aus | 15:50 |
| bushtech | thats why I dont have any spare drives lying around | 15:50 |
| Kilos | lol | 15:50 |
| superfly | Kilos: I don't use Kubuntu anymore, I use KDE on Debian | 15:50 |
| Kilos | all the time superfly | 15:50 |
| Kilos | you haqd both a while back | 15:50 |
| Kilos | afternoon superfly | 15:50 |
| bushtech | hi superfly | 15:51 |
| superfly | yup, and when my new hard drive for my netbook arrived, I put Debian on it | 15:51 |
| superfly | hi bushtech | 15:51 |
| Kilos | ah | 15:51 |
| bushtech | Here's a free tip for anybody who has an old laptop battery lying around | 15:55 |
| Kilos | please | 15:56 |
| Kilos | mine only has 4% life | 15:56 |
| bushtech | don't throw it away, break it open and you have 6 or 7 batteries for your led torch | 15:56 |
| Kilos | ah | 15:57 |
| Kilos | lol | 15:57 |
| Kilos | i was hoping you had a fix | 15:57 |
| bushtech | yes I do. One of the batteries inside there has failed, open it. find out which are gone , buy replacement battery,, solder in and voila | 15:58 |
| bushtech | laptop battery fixed | 15:59 |
| Kilos | ill do that in aus | 15:59 |
| Kilos | will be cheaper | 15:59 |
| Kilos | complete battery for t410 is $450 there and R1500 here | 16:00 |
| bushtech | having been in electronics you'll manage | 16:00 |
| Kilos | i mean $45 | 16:00 |
| bushtech | you'll be looking for a battery called 18650 | 16:00 |
| Kilos | i want to price a soldering station there as well | 16:00 |
| Kilos | they are very pricey here | 16:01 |
| bushtech | yeah nothing cheap here | 16:01 |
| Kilos | mhy weller died | 16:02 |
| Kilos | lasted about 30 years | 16:02 |
| bushtech | must be fixable | 16:02 |
| Kilos | the element popped | 16:02 |
| Kilos | can only get a new pencil for R450 | 16:03 |
| bushtech | is it on a station | 16:03 |
| bushtech | ? | 16:03 |
| Kilos | and thats no even genuine weller | 16:03 |
| Kilos | yes on a stand | 16:03 |
| bushtech | http://www.weller-toolsus.com/weller-ec234fe-heating-element.html?buy=1 | 16:06 |
| Kilos | ty it will be cheaper to buy there and bring hom | 16:07 |
| Kilos | home | 16:07 |
| Kilos | wonderful stations | 16:07 |
| Kilos | Maaz 19.10*14 | 16:08 |
| Maaz | Kilos: 267.4 | 16:08 |
| Kilos | expensive here | 16:08 |
| Kilos | maybe i should stop fixing things and save for next flight rather | 16:10 |
| Kilos | hehe | 16:10 |
| Kilos | ah you still with access | 16:10 |
| Kilos | when you going to get cloaked | 16:10 |
| bushtech | yep, sadly SA businesses will go out of business if they dont compete | 16:10 |
| bushtech | cloaked? | 16:11 |
| Kilos | look at the nicks some show unaffiliated instead of ip addy | 16:11 |
| Kilos | thats cloaked | 16:11 |
| Kilos | does your client show hosts | 16:12 |
| Kilos | wow you still got unstable connection | 16:12 |
| Kilos | fight that access guy | 16:12 |
| bushtech_ | yeah, it has it's moments | 16:12 |
| Kilos | ive even forgotten who he was | 16:12 |
| Kilos | i think you frightened him | 16:13 |
| bushtech_ | going to reboot router bbs | 16:13 |
| Kilos | havent seen him for a long time | 16:13 |
| Kilos | ok | 16:13 |
| Kilos | wb | 16:17 |
| bushtech | doesnt look as if it helped | 16:19 |
| Kilos | what | 16:19 |
| Kilos | oh rebooting router | 16:20 |
| bushtech | yep | 16:21 |
| paddatrapper | bushtech: seems there's a bug with Networkmanager in 16.04 that hasn't been fixed yet. Resuming from suspend requires you to toggle wifi before you can connect to a network | 16:27 |
| Kilos | ty paddatrapper | 16:28 |
| paddatrapper | Anyone know how to roll back an apt upgrade? Actually need wifi to work on my laptop... | 16:28 |
| Kilos | ouch | 16:31 |
| bushtech | thanks paddatrapper | 16:38 |
| bushtech | by suspend you mean the comouter goes to sleep? | 16:39 |
| paddatrapper | bushtech: yes. Like when you close the lid of a laptop | 16:40 |
| bushtech | hmm, havent got a lappy with buntu but backupserver runs overnight for backups. if it disconnects backup fails | 16:42 |
| bushtech | paddatrapper: http://askubuntu.com/questions/761180/wifi-doesnt-work-after-suspend-after-16-04-upgrade | 16:48 |
| paddatrapper | bushtech: that's the one | 16:48 |
| * paddatrapper is running Debian | 16:49 | |
| Kilos | eeeek | 16:49 |
| bushtech | seems there is a solution there | 16:49 |
| Kilos | traitors in our midst | 16:49 |
| * Kilos hides | 16:49 | |
| paddatrapper | Lol | 16:49 |
| * paddatrapper waves at Kilos | 16:49 | |
| bushtech | shocking :) | 16:49 |
| Kilos | lol | 16:49 |
| * paddatrapper dances a jig | 16:50 | |
| Kilos | you following the fly paddatrapper | 16:50 |
| paddatrapper | Which is actually quite scary considering my dancing.... | 16:50 |
| Kilos | haha | 16:50 |
| paddatrapper | Kilos: yeah the guys at Debconf converted me | 16:50 |
| Kilos | flap flap | 16:50 |
| Kilos | last time you do help them | 16:50 |
| paddatrapper | superfly was the one who helped me with the install | 16:51 |
| Kilos | you need help with the install | 16:51 |
| * Kilos sticks to kubuntu | 16:51 | |
| paddatrapper | He had the image and answered the dumb questions I had. Like where I could find broadcom wifi drivers | 16:52 |
| Kilos | lol | 16:52 |
| Kilos | hi CraigZim | 18:07 |
| CraigZim | Hey Kilos how you doing? | 18:07 |
| Kilos | ok ty and you | 18:07 |
| Kilos | you dont often visit here | 18:07 |
| CraigZim | Good thanks | 18:07 |
| Kilos | welcome to ubuntu-za | 18:08 |
| CraigZim | No, wanted to see what goes on down there | 18:09 |
| Kilos | hahaha | 18:09 |
| Kilos | everyone here is quiet today | 18:09 |
| CraigZim | trying to get ideas to spread the word here | 18:10 |
| Kilos | what word? | 18:10 |
| CraigZim | UBUNTU | 18:10 |
| Kilos | major work that | 18:11 |
| Kilos | many people use it and never even know about irc | 18:11 |
| CraigZim | Id be happy converting a few to using linux for day to day use | 18:13 |
| Kilos | yeah | 18:13 |
| Kilos | try school kids | 18:13 |
| Kilos | if you find one thats tries it you will be surprised at how quick it spreads | 18:14 |
| Kilos | even varsity students | 18:14 |
| Kilos | businesses are difficult unless you can convince the IT guy | 18:15 |
| Kilos | hi chesedo | 18:15 |
| chesedo | Hi oom Kilos | 18:16 |
| Kilos | night all. sleep tight | 18:28 |
| superfly | sup kulelu88 | 19:26 |
| kulelu88 | hey superfly . howzit? | 19:27 |
| superfly | yeah, not bad thanks. a little less frantic right now | 19:28 |
| superfly | still trying to get everything sold | 19:28 |
| superfly | Dog has a home, need to follow up on one cat's potential new home, and cat #3 still needs a home | 19:28 |
| kulelu88 | yeah seems like a rush. less than 2 months until your family goes? | 19:28 |
| superfly | ya | 19:29 |
| superfly | they're actually sorted, I'm the one that still needs to be sorted out. | 19:30 |
| kulelu88 | if you were going to execute a bash command within Python, without a pip install lib (like sh), what would you use from within Pythons internal tools? | 19:30 |
| superfly | subprocess probably | 19:30 |
| kulelu88 | Perhaps you should try resigning soon? may help to be around to sort everything out | 19:30 |
| superfly | from subprocess import check_output; check_output(['ls']) | 19:31 |
| superfly | yes, already chatted with my boss. I'm resigning effective 30 November, but we have a 2 month notice period which I'm not required to work out | 19:31 |
| superfly | So September 30 will be my last day.... *sigh* my mom's birthday | 19:32 |
| kulelu88 | I'd be running a command like this: sudo find /path/from/folder/ -name *.php -exec sudo cp {} /path/to/folder\; | 19:33 |
| kulelu88 | I'm sure you can leave any valuables you can't sell at your folks place? | 19:34 |
| superfly | kulelu88: no, my dad doesn't want anything more. I've managed to persuade my brothers to take some things, and we've got friends and friends of friends buying stuff. we're also giving a lot away to charities. | 19:44 |
| superfly | only the absolute worst is going in the bin | 19:44 |
| kulelu88 | recycling +100 | 19:46 |
| kulelu88 | you saw my bash command above? superfly | 19:54 |
| superfly | kulelu88: yes. if you read the docs on subprocess, you'll see that you can easily achieve that | 19:55 |
| kulelu88 | alright, I'll review that later, thanks | 19:55 |
| superfly | yw | 19:55 |
| jerit | this client's more stable than vanilla mirc | 20:06 |
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