[08:33] hmm... [08:35] hi paddatrapper inetpro ambo aquarat drussell ludo pavlushka SilverCode and other lurkers [08:35] * pavlushka digging deeper [08:37] Hey Kilos [08:37] * pavlushka (and burying himself) [08:37] why [08:38] pavlushka: I'll check about sort and let you know. Need to remember how it works [08:38] * pavlushka (Because Kilos sensed me here) :p [08:38] paddatrapper: sure :) [08:40] Kilos: ahoy :) [08:42] hahaha [09:09] paddatrapper: I am getting close, I am following a suggestion inetpro gave me when the Tigers used to smoke cigars :p [09:09] paddatrapper: I'll tell you if I achieve 100 success :) [09:22] pavlushka: ok cool :) [10:54] where are all the clever peeps [11:13] paddatrapper you here? [11:13] theblazehen you? [12:21] where of where is my fly [13:02] ello squirrels [13:08] hi jerit [13:09] you well Kilos? [13:10] just tired hopefully ty jerit and you [13:19] just tired, hopefully? [13:42] yip , jerit is it isnt tired then im sick again [13:43] spend whole day in jozi yesterday and that air aint good [13:51] Kilos I'm here [13:52] sec i cp/paste [13:52] ive been given a blackberry for my trip to aus [13:52] [15:51] if i tether it to lappy as a modem will i then be able to use the bb data [13:53] because i think they give uncapped for R59 [13:53] Kilos No :( [13:53] oh my [13:53] what data will it use then [13:53] It's seperate BIS data, only used by their browser and BBM [13:54] so their browser and bbm is free, rest is your normal data plan [13:54] or it was like that a few years back [13:54] all i got it for is for whatsapp to family here [13:54] I looked into if there was ways to get it to work with websocket magic, but back then you couldn't as the browser didn't support websockets [13:56] horrible fone though i have to use 2 pairs of glasses to see the keyboard [13:56] oh theblazehen [13:56] one more thing [13:56] what if i tether it and its on wifi [13:57] If it's on wifi then it should be fine [13:57] aha [13:57] something to think about then [13:58] need to find out if they still want the R59 if you use wifi [13:58] wbb [14:00] ok [15:28] afternoon all [15:29] hi bushtech long time no here [15:29] where you been [15:29] G'day Kilos [15:29] you ok? [15:29] you in Oz? [15:29] leaving tuesday early am [15:30] actually flying at 9.45 [15:30] i'm good, up to my neck teaching myself electronics [15:30] lol [15:30] i was lucky the gpo paid for my electronics learning [15:30] thinking of going to 1604. Good idea? [15:30] but then electronics was very much more basic [15:31] still buggy but if you dont need fancy things the basics is stable [15:31] and 16.04.1 is out so many of the patches already in [15:31] yeah when it gets to the maths involved my eyes glaze over [15:32] lol [15:32] but they are still working on many bugs [15:32] ah ok got some extra data think I'll roll it [15:33] also superfly and inetpro and a few others are already using 16.04 [15:33] as long as they haven't stuffed up something like network connections [15:33] ill upgrade next month in aus [15:34] try checking outstanding bugs before you actually upgrade [15:34] but you can download it so long [15:34] wbb pumping water [15:35] hmm yeah. Unfortunately I don't know if the stuff I get up to rates as fancy [15:36] haha [15:36] you use kde? [15:38] bushtech ^^ [15:39] I use whatever it comes with [15:39] if you do then there are guys here running it so they would know fixes [15:39] kubuntu that is [15:40] spose i'm on gnome [15:41] havent you got a spare drive to test it on [15:41] then you would know if any apps you use are buggy before dropping your stable system [15:42] i am going to upgrade the lappy standard drive first, but keep the ssd on stable till im happy with 16.04 [15:42] hmm just replaced my media drive with a WD Red [15:42] they come in colours now [15:43] used to be sizes [15:43] ? [15:43] yep [15:43] so how big is red? [15:43] hehe [15:43] now you need to pick size and colour [15:43] ai! [15:43] red comes in all sizes [15:44] what is the red for them [15:44] then [15:44] but recommended for 24/7 NAS [15:44] i cant google, data min [15:44] aha [15:45] and 3 year guarantee [15:45] thats nice [15:45] for what its worth [15:45] cost? [15:45] my drives are all older than that [15:45] bushtech scratches head [15:45] haha [15:49] 2tb was about R1900 [15:49] eeek [15:50] thats 20% of the airfare to aus [15:50] thats why I dont have any spare drives lying around [15:50] lol [15:50] Kilos: I don't use Kubuntu anymore, I use KDE on Debian [15:50] all the time superfly [15:50] you haqd both a while back [15:50] afternoon superfly [15:51] hi superfly [15:51] yup, and when my new hard drive for my netbook arrived, I put Debian on it [15:51] hi bushtech [15:51] ah [15:55] Here's a free tip for anybody who has an old laptop battery lying around [15:56] please [15:56] mine only has 4% life [15:56] don't throw it away, break it open and you have 6 or 7 batteries for your led torch [15:57] ah [15:57] lol [15:57] i was hoping you had a fix [15:58] yes I do. One of the batteries inside there has failed, open it. find out which are gone , buy replacement battery,, solder in and voila [15:59] laptop battery fixed [15:59] ill do that in aus [15:59] will be cheaper [16:00] complete battery for t410 is $450 there and R1500 here [16:00] having been in electronics you'll manage [16:00] i mean $45 [16:00] you'll be looking for a battery called 18650 [16:00] i want to price a soldering station there as well [16:01] they are very pricey here [16:01] yeah nothing cheap here [16:02] mhy weller died [16:02] lasted about 30 years [16:02] must be fixable [16:02] the element popped [16:03] can only get a new pencil for R450 [16:03] is it on a station [16:03] ? [16:03] and thats no even genuine weller [16:03] yes on a stand [16:06] http://www.weller-toolsus.com/weller-ec234fe-heating-element.html?buy=1 [16:07] ty it will be cheaper to buy there and bring hom [16:07] home [16:07] wonderful stations [16:08] Maaz 19.10*14 [16:08] Kilos: 267.4 [16:08] expensive here [16:10] maybe i should stop fixing things and save for next flight rather [16:10] hehe [16:10] ah you still with access [16:10] when you going to get cloaked [16:10] yep, sadly SA businesses will go out of business if they dont compete [16:11] cloaked? [16:11] look at the nicks some show unaffiliated instead of ip addy [16:11] thats cloaked [16:12] does your client show hosts [16:12] wow you still got unstable connection [16:12] fight that access guy [16:12] yeah, it has it's moments [16:12] ive even forgotten who he was [16:13] i think you frightened him [16:13] going to reboot router bbs [16:13] havent seen him for a long time [16:13] ok [16:17] wb [16:19] doesnt look as if it helped [16:19] what [16:20] oh rebooting router [16:21] yep [16:27] bushtech: seems there's a bug with Networkmanager in 16.04 that hasn't been fixed yet. Resuming from suspend requires you to toggle wifi before you can connect to a network [16:28] ty paddatrapper [16:28] Anyone know how to roll back an apt upgrade? Actually need wifi to work on my laptop... [16:31] ouch [16:38] thanks paddatrapper [16:39] by suspend you mean the comouter goes to sleep? [16:40] bushtech: yes. Like when you close the lid of a laptop [16:42] hmm, havent got a lappy with buntu but backupserver runs overnight for backups. if it disconnects backup fails [16:48] paddatrapper: http://askubuntu.com/questions/761180/wifi-doesnt-work-after-suspend-after-16-04-upgrade [16:48] bushtech: that's the one [16:49] * paddatrapper is running Debian [16:49] eeeek [16:49] seems there is a solution there [16:49] traitors in our midst [16:49] * Kilos hides [16:49] Lol [16:49] * paddatrapper waves at Kilos [16:49] shocking :) [16:49] lol [16:50] * paddatrapper dances a jig [16:50] you following the fly paddatrapper [16:50] Which is actually quite scary considering my dancing.... [16:50] haha [16:50] Kilos: yeah the guys at Debconf converted me [16:50] flap flap [16:50] last time you do help them [16:51] superfly was the one who helped me with the install [16:51] you need help with the install [16:51] * Kilos sticks to kubuntu [16:52] He had the image and answered the dumb questions I had. Like where I could find broadcom wifi drivers [16:52] lol [18:07] hi CraigZim [18:07] Hey Kilos how you doing? [18:07] ok ty and you [18:07] you dont often visit here [18:07] Good thanks [18:08] welcome to ubuntu-za [18:09] No, wanted to see what goes on down there [18:09] hahaha [18:09] everyone here is quiet today [18:10] trying to get ideas to spread the word here [18:10] what word? [18:10] UBUNTU [18:11] major work that [18:11] many people use it and never even know about irc [18:13] Id be happy converting a few to using linux for day to day use [18:13] yeah [18:13] try school kids [18:14] if you find one thats tries it you will be surprised at how quick it spreads [18:14] even varsity students [18:15] businesses are difficult unless you can convince the IT guy [18:15] hi chesedo [18:16] Hi oom Kilos [18:28] night all. sleep tight [19:26] sup kulelu88 [19:27] hey superfly . howzit? [19:28] yeah, not bad thanks. a little less frantic right now [19:28] still trying to get everything sold [19:28] Dog has a home, need to follow up on one cat's potential new home, and cat #3 still needs a home [19:28] yeah seems like a rush. less than 2 months until your family goes? [19:29] ya [19:30] they're actually sorted, I'm the one that still needs to be sorted out. [19:30] if you were going to execute a bash command within Python, without a pip install lib (like sh), what would you use from within Pythons internal tools? [19:30] subprocess probably [19:30] Perhaps you should try resigning soon? may help to be around to sort everything out [19:31] from subprocess import check_output; check_output(['ls']) [19:31] yes, already chatted with my boss. I'm resigning effective 30 November, but we have a 2 month notice period which I'm not required to work out [19:32] So September 30 will be my last day.... *sigh* my mom's birthday [19:33] I'd be running a command like this: sudo find /path/from/folder/ -name *.php -exec sudo cp {} /path/to/folder\; [19:34] I'm sure you can leave any valuables you can't sell at your folks place? [19:44] kulelu88: no, my dad doesn't want anything more. I've managed to persuade my brothers to take some things, and we've got friends and friends of friends buying stuff. we're also giving a lot away to charities. [19:44] only the absolute worst is going in the bin [19:46] recycling +100 [19:54] you saw my bash command above? superfly [19:55] kulelu88: yes. if you read the docs on subprocess, you'll see that you can easily achieve that [19:55] alright, I'll review that later, thanks [19:55] yw [20:06] this client's more stable than vanilla mirc